Building a better Star Wars AT-AT toy
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Everybody wanted an AT-AT from The Star Wars. Wow - it was a really exciting toy, or was it?
Yeah it’s legs move and that, and the 80s ones had guns that moved, and lit up! You put your hand in to operate its head, and you can move the legs - with your hands! But wouldn’t it be better if it walked along?
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I love how you pronounced it "AT - A T" to simultaneously frustrate both the A T A T crowd and the AT AT crowd
Galaxy brain stuff.
He should have gone even further and constantly switch between @-AT and AT-@ 💀💀💀
Yeah that worked lol
I thought he was refering to the year the original toy came out which would have been the same year as The Empire Strikes Back, 1980
AT-80
@80
"the @-80 from the star wars"
ah i see james has mastered the "make everyone mad so they comment about it and boost engagement" strategy
I fell for it :(
Came here for this comment. 😂
But later in the video he just went with @-@ so, he is in my side. Ha. Checkmate, 80-80 supporters!
One thing that I think a lot of people forget about the ATAT's legs is that they are actually made of 3 sections, instead of just 2 like the toys are. There is a 3rd beam that connects to the ATAT's body in the center underneath the two other leg sections, meaning that the legs can be raised up and down as well as creating a suspension of sorts so that all of the force isnt directly pushed upward into the walker. This is sorta represented in James's creation however it is also able to move up and down. Its ability to pivot that beam left and right addition ot being able to pivot up and down gives it a massive range of motion, much larger than the robot created here. I can also see how that would be very difficult to replicate in a robot though, just because of the complexity of that joint being able to move in two axis
Yeah when he said look the legs can swing outwards I was like Why? They should go up and down at the hips! But he's right in that without that it can't turn however it would be cool if he got the hips going up and down as well. Two axis on each hip joint would be tricky though. It would also help with the IK system for the planted feet needing to move backwards.
*EDIT* I just looked at my Bandai AT-AT and the hip joint is a ball joint, allowing it to go up down and left right.
Not only that, but they had 2 axis ankle movement as well. An arched track from front to back that was hinged at the foot, and an inboard side piston. Remember it's not just a shuffle walker, but was made to be an all terrain transport. The films stop motion barely scratched the mobility of the actual design. I really miss the days of practical effects, today in movies they just turn on clip mode and ignore internal volumes.
Not right... You can turn the walker when the 3rd joint is only going up and down. Why ?
First, you can do bigger steps with the 3rd joint.
2. you can leave a front leg on the ground and let the other 3 do a small walk motion
3. you can do smaler steps on one side and bigger ones on the other side
This motions are not that easy, but the 3rd joint is the key to do a real god walking motion. The 3rd joint also was used on the AT-ST, but this one used a chicken leg mechanism. The human hip is our 3rd joint, together with our feet we manage the hight control of our steps. The feet are fixed on the AT-AT, so the 3rd joint is all that is left.
@@markushavers2283 No, the small step big step won't work. You can get up and try it yourself. All that happens is the side taking small steps lags behind and has to take more steps to keep up. It doesn't induce a turning motion. But I'm now looking at the underside of my Bandai AT-AT and there is a ball joint where it connects to the body and I can swing the hips in and out and up and down. So they had the capability all along.
@@thirdeyenz I´m pretty sure it would work. An AT-ST will do this to walk in a circle.
But i am evem more sure that an AT-AT would not even use this walk cycle.
When there was a ball joint in the original design, no problem, circle walk possible.
But if not, there would be the possibility to stop, turn on the spot and walk again.
I truly appreciate that nearly every other CZcamsr would make this into a 10 part series. You have just enough detail, and an amazing body of past technical reference to make this possible. Love your channel!
So true, sometimes they don't even lable them, smh, it gets frustrating that i just stop watching,
this one was so chill i didn't even have to fast forward it!
😃
I kinda miss his original long series like the GNK Droid or BB-9 🤔 Lot's of detail and research was shown in them 👍
Very cool video! I never really thought about the angular math behind the AT-AT's ability to walk.
When Jerry is going to tear down a real life AT AT >.
The original stop motion footage was inspired by elephants... 😉
I’m sure we all appreciate the time you spend designing and building these projects. They’re always inspiring.
Absolutely, I’m planning a campaign against an ice moon now! Great stuff James 😀👍 hope you will scale it up like that mech elephant and give folks rides at music festivals.
So this is how Star Wars started/begins! 🤣👍🏻
@@Eduardo_Espinoza Yep, then we build a faster than light drive and a Time Machine so we can go to a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away.
Your leg design is absolute genius.I'm always impressed with how fast you iterate into something successful .
Well, now it’s experience but back in the day it was the power of editing
The first mistake was expecting mercy at all on Poopsock's Shitshow
What is interesting is that the original animators managed to endow the at-at strut with a sense of menace, which is absent with James's four legs just taking turns.
(I think this project is bloody awesome, btw)
I think it was the sound design team which created the sense of menace. The stop motion guys had the easy job (don't mess up the "snow").
@@MidwestFarmToys Grandpa At-At doo doo doo... *rinse and repeat*
It looks like it came from Wallace and Gromit lol
I think the movie version is menacing because its HUGE and has "fricken lasers on its head"
@@MidwestFarmToys .. especially since at their tech level they have unlimited access to high speed flying and hovering machines, ANY slow ground machine is ridiculous unless it is required to carry enormous heavy weaponry that could level a mountain in one shot or something.
The little pew pew gun on the AT AT could never justify its existence. George needs to lift his game.
the speed at which James is able to put these projects together is incredible
In about 1994/95 my brother and I made a walking poseable At-At out of Lego and technic parts.
The head moved side to side and the knees bent and were lockable for posing…
Quite possibly my greatest Lego triumph.
It would be interesting to see you tackle the accurate AT-AT walk cycle, as it has quite a few different moving parts. I wonder if it would actually even be possible to achieve in real life.
@JohnEdwa It would probably be easier to do in a larger scale, because you would have more room to work with. You could use linear actuators, hydraulics or pneumatics, etc.
The correct step pattern: left-front, left-rear, right-front, right-rear, etc.. Most AT-AT toys and fan-made versions do not step this way (and it is difficult to do, because of real-world mechanical physics). The AT-ACT by Hasbro also fails to step correctly -- it's "shuffle-pushes" by raising two legs diagonally from another at a time.
If you look at elephants, they archive it every day. Footage of them inspired the original stop motion made with models...
yes, it is possible. search youtube for "AT-AT walker at Modelcon 2008"
it's only about 8" tall, and made 15 years ago.
Can you fly a little drone with a cable around its legs?
I was waiting the cable around legs in the video !! :(
Just in case you didn't notice, in Star Wars, the AT-AT legs are on levers. That's how the legs move up and down. You can see this motion very clearly when you're looking up at the front right legs of the AT-ATs. That's how the AT-AT legs remain strait. Most, or all, toy manufacturers miss this very important detail. Are you interested in recreating this AT-AT mobility system?
CZcams clip title:
The Battle of Hoth in Star Wars Episode V [The Empire Strikes Back] (1980)
Channel name:
Worlds Greatest Clips (WGC)
Those "levers" do the same job your hips do except in that case your hips go across you body as one continuous lever, or in the case of a four legged animal of course, hips and shoulders.
Easiest place to see it in action is probably a cats shoulders or a girls hips.
@@popuptoaster ,
Or in this video where he talks about how his shoulder moves up and down and he swings his arms, lol.
Yes you are right. LEGO, when will you address this?
Exactly. As impressive as this build is, the bent legs make it look like an AT-AT that needs to poop really badly, or maybe it's just a very old AT-AT... 😁
@@JC130676 😆
This is the build I’ve been asking for since I came across your channel. Glad to see you did it.
"and also, quite helpfully, it can stand on one leg"
shows it standing on 3 legs :P
Seeing it walk in the Kitchen makes me think of a walking dinner tray carrier which brings a meal from the kitchen to a specific chair!
Also, it's always great to see you wearing the T shirts that you hired me to draw up. Very chuffed!
had the exact same thought this would be a great base for a simple service bot
@@mileslocman why not omniwheel?.
simple. lol.
Another awesome project and I appreciate that it's all in a single video!
It would definitely be intimidating to see something as big as an AT-AT step-touching with that kind of precision.
I build at-ats out of lego mindstorms in the early 2000s so i was stoked to see James make an actually good one!
Thinking about exactly this project for years but never got the time to do it. Thanks for making this and sharing the code! It's absolutely awesome and i'd like to add a more detailed Body, moving Head etc.
Very nice!
It's cool that you lifted both diagonal feet when turning.
I was wondering if you can also walk forward this way - by lifting two diagonal legs. The feet seem wide enough to keep balance ... assuming its center of mass is in the middle of the legs.
I absolutely love your work. Its incredible. Your project turnaround is superhuman. You have been a great inspiration to me over the years. Your chanel is one of the things that got me into 3d printing and 3d design, I seriously doubt I would have gotten into it if not for your projects.
so inspiring! thank you for all the hard work and amazing designs.
Brilliant, love that you actually used trigonometry we learnt at school
I really like the servo in the leg design. I'm going to have to play around with that. Thank you for sharing with us.
I just wanted to say, I've been en watching this channel for years and your editing and pace has reached a really professional level. Bravo! 👍🏻
This is the most consistently impressive channel. Absolutely awesome project.
This is so cool!!! Your engineering skills are inspirational 😊
There is a Lego AT-AT model that is totally mechanical with just one drive motor. Its also quite large.
I believe its using the same mechanism as the toy shown at the start of this video.
@@kantpredict Not quite. it have a joint that is controlled by a bar that is conected to some top bracket that alows it to move the legs with 8 joints. 4 master joints and 4 slave joints. This makes it look quite simular to the real deal.
Also worth saying, there is probobly 10 diffrent lego AT-AT offical modell. I´m refering to the large technicl lego model.
its called the 10178
I love these videos. Well produced. Easily followed. Well Done James.
Such a great video, this has really helped me find a decent enough way to make my BD-1 walk. Thanks 😀
This is really good! All I would add is to change the timing slightly on the walk so that when the left front foot is half-way through stride in mid-air, the right back foot should then be lifted, and so on.
yes, it might look less... sedate?
That is what I feel I want to see, but I wonder if that would make it much more wobbly....
The ramp library I haven't used before. I made a library that can basically do the same thing except for changing the PWM width over time for controlling some LEDs via some MOFFETTs. I wanted them to fade on and off while maintaining the same color. Would have saved some time if I knew about the library, but it was fun to program anyway.
Always enjoy your videos still rewatch your BB8 builds
I love your gear design! A very sleek design for exact movement with robust power!
Now you've made 2. You've made 4... but can you make 3? I've recently been smitten by Jeff Wayne's War Of The Worlds and I'd love to see your take on a Fighting Machine-!
no one would have believed...
This is an amazing build!
Thats really nice. again incredible project
"That means AT-A-Ts would work if The Star Wars was real life!" This is one of the greatest sentences of all time.
but they would be supremely vulnerable in a combat arena
La caminata se ve muy fluida, excelente trabajo.
As I lover of Gonk droids I appreciate that one of your earlier robots was a Gonk
This is an emotional rollercoaster with AT-AT pronunciation
Crazy ! Always impressed of your robotic skills
Absolutely brilliant
Those are really nice leg movement mechanisms with the power train hidden inside, well done.
Some years ago I sketched some mechanisms for an 1:120 scale RC version of the Sidewinder from Thunderbirds, a walking behemoth not unlike the AT-AT but more 'angry' in appearance and decidedly cockroach-shaped.
However the legs and movements are quite different to the AT-AT in being straight cylindrical stalks that are retracted for the step, pivoted then extended. This wasn't the difficult bit to design, what was was a heavy steel or lead counterweight block inside the body that could be moved to the diagonally opposite leg being lifted. Now I have a 3D printer perhaps I'll get back to it sometime :)
this is the coolest project yet!!!!
I remember building a walking AT AT of my own design out of Knex when I was a child. I also built a walking gorilla mech thing. Most of my Knex was from the big ball factory set, but I had lots of the specialty bits from smaller sets, too.
Love this build 🥳🥳🥳
Amazing project.
Great stuff. 2 notes - the first shot of the ATAT in The Empire Strikes Back through the electro binoculars demonstrates that they too suffer from the sideways wobble. Your lovely ATAT never straightens its legs like the movie versions.
congratulations for the video they are excellent, they could make a series of ideas about use, charging and battery control electronics
Always cool seeing servos work in unison like that.
Nice build! Since I was a kid these AT-AT's had my interest, maybe I should try to build a real one some day.
Amazing work as usual. Well done.
Fantastic. I was wondering, when a walking robot walker would be made, that didn't fall over. I had a remote walker toy, when I was younger. The toy was crappy when it came to, walking on carpet.
Nice work! Looks great.
A classic! Thank you 👌
Awesome build! You have also just made Gromit from Wallace & Gromit. His legs are simplified and the single joints both point forward. When your AT-AT walks it just reminds me of how Gromit walks!
You live a charmed life where people give you toys and building materials in exchange for you thanking them.
Cheers from Chicago
not just thanking them, promoting them on a platform that you have made worthwhile to watch
let us not be blind to what James has achieved here
The toes on the feet were articulated and there were 4 not three, other than that, what you have done is pretty amazing.
James well done for foot steps ,1-left hind(first beat),2-left front (second beat),3- right hind (3rd beat),4-right front(4th. beat).
I really want him to finish making this thing and painting it and adding lights and sounds and the guns in the head of the AT-AT imagine him controlling this winter in the snow, shooting a video with camera. It would look awesome.
i made an AT-AT in a building game but i couldnt find a mechanism to make it walk and turn until i saw this video THANK YOU so much for showing me this
you've earned a like and subscribe
ILM used an elephant walking as a reference to how the AT AT should walk . LEGO made a walking technical , "Power function set " with remote control and was the only set representation of a motorised AT AT, about ten years ago that has all the legs bits moving autonomously and walking functions via LEGO remote control as well that could help with this.
Wow! Great work!
I propose calling this variant the AT-JB :D
I remember in the 90's going out to eat to meet my dad when he got back in town for dinner with my mom. He rolled in with a suitcase and the only thing in it was the AT-AT. Still have it!
Great build!
It's mind boggling how much engineering is needed for the movement of simple mechanical legs, yet for our own highly complex organic legs we don't even need to think about it.
how James says AT-AT is bugging me.
When you can’t decide between AT-AT and AT-AT so you just combine them both and call it AT-AT 🤔
I'll take: Things you never split the difference for $500 Alex.
Thought this mechanism is my new head canon.
@@brandonmatthews9420 the fact that I pronounced these differently in my head
I love how you can type AT-AT & AT-AT and read it as 2 different thing
That man is not daft he just upped his channel engagement by at least 500% just by saying AT-A T
The AT-AT’s legs were based on an elephant, so the fore legs should be reversed with an elbow instead of a knee. Also the hip or shoulder joint that other people have mentioned.
Nonetheless this is amazing.
Thanks!
"gonk droid" the most beautiful phrase in the English language
Fabulous! Might be wrong but you have a lot of torque to play with. Maybe putting lots of batteries strategically placed to power it and add enough inertia to eliminate most of the rest of the wobble. It might also give it more stability to keep it from tipping over.
i love that you use arduino in many advanced programing rather than some more sophisticated microcontroller, it motivates beginners like me
There was a walking, head moving large AT-ACT walker that was released around Rogue One that was remote controlled and even fired NERF rounds! It's awesome!
I really like the way my Lego Motorized AT-AT walks, it's actually quite nice.
All we need now is that little A-Wing drone from FliteTest and we have ourselves a party!
I do like the concept that this AT-AT has more thought and effort into getting it to work than the in-universe ones likely had.
Well, if I ever feel like doing a big project, now I know what I'm going to try first :)
Probably won't be able to just copy this because I have a resin printer instead of an fdm printer, but it at least gives an excuse to redesign a few things with some recommendations in the comments, and make more details.
it is so sneaky, its a covert ops at-at. great project
Very cool. I love how you solved a lot of problems that I've been banging my head against a wall about, in regards to a lego build. Quick observation that I hope you read and maybe it will help you. I used to do a little engineering so I really HOPE YOU READ THIS - I THINK IT WILL REALLY HELP! TOP OF THE LEGS, where they connect to the servos that allow the AT-AT to sweep the legs out to the sides for turning: In the movies and in the Clone Wars, that section of the AT-AT also travels up and down slightly, like a shock absorber. It might be useful knowledge to you. You could add servos for each "shock absorber" - making the front ones more stiff and the back less, which would make it easier to hold the head up. This would also prevent the AT-AT from swaying so much from side to side while it walks, a much steadier design. I would recommend going back and watching the invasion of Hoth one more time from Empire Strikes Back. There are a couple of really great shots looking up at the bottom of the AT-AT's, they might be useful in coming up with a more helpful - cohesive design. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE, LOVE your work. I really do. It's just that I've been struggling with all of these same problems myself recently and I thought I'd pass on what I've learned. I wish you good luck if you decide to make any mods and if you do, I can't wait to see them! Cheers my friend!
Put a camera in the head, stream the stream with an overlay (or make a physical one), attach lasers, create some targets, have some target practice
Great job! first video I've seen on your channel and I'll be looking for more... One thing left to do... BUILD IT BIGGER!
Those drives in the legs are beautifully simple.
I'm scratch building an ATACT for a friend. I made the ankle joint with the arc attached to the fee and a passive shock absorder inside the ankle. It's a static model but each leg/foot assembly balances well enough to stand on its own. I wondered if you reproduced the ankle arrangements as they are in the stars models you may achieve a smoother gait. The arc on mine obviously made by hand and guesstimate. A printed arc would be much smoother.
Bit of a shame nobody flew a tiny RC plane around this with fishing line to tie up the legs, but I can't complain- the project was still very cool!
Is it just me or the AT AT design would look more natural and better if the knees were bent backwards?
Phil Tippett used the lumbering gait of an elephant as reference when applying his "Go Motion" stop frame animation technique to the original AT-ATs. Although elephants are digitigrade, their "knees" really do bend in the direction depicted in that iconic sci-fi vehicle
@@bornach birds have knees that bend backwards, although obviously, these articulations are not actually their knees
@@DrWhom Aren't those their ankles?
Their "Knees" are actually up next to their body and covered in feathers.
....a bit like a dog's hind legs (but without the feathers).
@@DEADB33F yes, their knees are higher up and can be considered fully homologous to our own knees. on the other hand the articulation you called their ankles is a joint that we just don't have, as it would be situated halfway down our feet. We have two bones between our knees and ankles, called fibula and tibia. In birds, the tibia has fused with the upper feet bones (tarsus) to form the tibiotarsus. The ankle has effectively been frozen (or eliminated) by this fusion, and a new "ankle" formed half way down the foot. The bone that extends down from this joint is the tarsometatarsus, and this is again a fusion of bones that are a "loose" collection in quadruped feet/paws.
Does anyone else want to take a fifth wheel trailer and do this to it for a massive and mobile and upwardly mobile shelter?
Amazing video culmination of your efforts!
This is amazing
I am drawn to the missing shoulder joints in the original toy and many illustrations. The AT-ST chicken walker had missing hip bones in Empire strikes back but they were present in Return of the Jedi
I like this one James. Such a good idea.
inspiring with all the work.
this shows that we're one step closer to having technology as advanced as star wars, if we managed to achieved hyperspace jumps, we'd be at that level by then
That's pretty awesome
i hope you finish it with all of the pannels
it would look cool
This is really cool
awesome work!
Very nice, now shows us it walking on uneven ground with some occasional rocks xd
Great work!
I have a very vivid memory of Christmas 1980 and getting my AT-AT. After opening it and assembly my dad stating "$50 and it doesn't even walk by itself!".