Thank you for a good review. I would get a Ionic. It is just more comfortable, has real buttons to control climate, has instrumental panel in front of driver and sun blind for the roof.
I live in California and I get the ioniq5 and I love it I have drive the Tesla and is a great car but I find the ioniq way more comfortable and the charging is so fast
Keep in mind if you go with othe EV brands, you will be very limited with charging your car when your traveling vs with tesla every city has a tesla fast charger. Atleast in California.
I test drove the Model Y earlier this week (with the 20 inch induction rims, so a firmer ride) had absolutely no problems with ride, handling or comfort. Ordered one that evening. Shortly after the test drive i spoke to a retired couple who had test driven it 30mins before me, they said they had no problem with the ride quality either and were going to order one too! Also those rims really improve the asthetic of the Y i think! Having said that i have no real problem with the Ioniq. I think it really is subjective. One thing to note is the LFP battery in the tesla (RWD) is likely to have a significantly longer lifespan compared to the NMC battery in the Ioniq., there have been plenty of case studies done on that, LFP also better for the environment. Having said that it's important to note that as soon as you go to the long range or performance Model Y the chemistry changes over to NMC for higher energy density.... For me, i'd take lifespan, eco friendliness and safety of LFP over the modest improvement in range of NMC. Great unbiased review BTW!
Mate you are the most detailed reviewer I’ve come across. The fact you consider tyre pressures, sidewall, efficiency, square ridge bumps etc is spot on. The details matter. Especially with going electric. Good work. Keep it up!! 👍🏼👍🏼
Good review and comparison. As the owner of a LR Model Y since January, I obviously agree with the verdict, and I agree with all of the criticisms. The ride is stiff and the lack of an instrument cluster takes some getting used to, but everything else shines. One pedal driving on twisty back roads is amazing, long trips are stress-free (Superchargers) and the storage/practicality is unmatched. The other thing I would point out, that it seems all of the reviewers miss is how many controls you can avoid by using the voice controls. They are outstanding and once you get familiar with them it's easy to almost never use the touch screen. All of that said, I tell friends who are looking to get an EV to do lots of research and test drive all of them ... multiple times. We even rented a Model Y for a day to see if it was really right for us. Figure out what's the right car for you and your family. It might be the Tesla, or the Hyundai, or some other one. Just stop driving an ICE vehicle.
I've had my Ioniq 5 (MY22 so some small spec changes) AWD for about 6 weeks and couldn't be happier. The power, comfort, ride and build quality can't really be faulted. Have driven Model 3's but not the Y. Tesla definitely does the tech and charging network well, but I couldn't live with the (admittedly now improved) build quality and that ugly mug.
I tried to get the ioniq 5 but gave up because of the incredibly frustrating ordering lottery. haven't regretted getting my model 3, but do love the look of the ioniq 5
I'm glad there are good EVs for those who are looking for a car rather than another gadget in their tech arsenal. Honestly I couldn't care less if my Model 3 has doors or not. I love the computer on wheels aspect of it. Cars I could find plenty.
@@peterthompson99 xD If that was the case I'd probably opt for something else but I really like how it looks. I just don't care for the panel gaps or what material the seats made out of.
I have an I5 and my wife is getting the Y in a few days. We agree the I5 is the nicer ride and the Y’s tech is so much better. We’ll know in a few months which is the better car to own.
@@brooKlynKiteflyer i picked up the Y today. The suspension is awful (on 19”s) outside the city and off the smooth motorways. Some great tech ruined with an unpleasant drive.
@@robhaitch5544 I see well good luck, yes, the tech in tesla is far superior than the competitions. I went with the ioniq 5 instead since the fit and finish and ride quality was far superior than other comparable evs out there and also I am using it for local driving so I'm plugging it at home.
I'd prefer the Ioniq 5, as I have the option to home charge the vehicle. The Ioniq 5 is better looking, has a longer warranty, and has a compliant ride.
I also home charge my Tesla with either 120 or 220V dryer outlet = no wall charger or electrician needed! I hear most Teslas home charge unless on a trip.
We've finally driven both.. August 2022. Model Y - We won't be getting one a few deal breakers: Head rest causes wife to have sore head after 20m of driving, can't adjust headrest. Suspension is way too hard for our roads (B roads in UK). Wife found it much harder to get in and out of the car - banging her head on the pillar. Ionic 5 - No deal breakers. Things we didn't like - honestly nothing. Even the boot height was great as we're coming from a Landrover D4 with tail gate. Summary - Tesla, starting to look dated. Felt 'American' in the interior - as in a bit cheap. No other features in the car other than a USB port in the back seat. Loved the space when in the Model Y. Ionic 5 - just did everything better practicality wise. Tesla is ahead in tech - but at sacrifice of some basic things like seat adjustment, easy access buttons for regular tasks. Feels like most of the money is going into the large tablet than the rest of the car. So I understand though why Tesla are popular. We don't need the supercharger network - so this really puts the other value adds of a Tesla to test, and it (for us at least) feel a little behind the Ionic 5.
Depends which model. We have the ultimate and the seat adjustment (once you get it right) is programmable to the user profile. So even though me and the other half share a car it adjusts my seat, my settings and my radio settings...the only thing it doesn't do is adjust the rear view mirror and that head rest :)
I like the ventilated seat and the HUD that is available for the IONIQ 5, also the built-in motorized shade for the sunroof is nice. Too bad Hyundai does not sell the solar roof in Australia.
@@metube9541 The idea of the solar roof is just to keep the car charged if it is idle for a long time, like at an airport, as all batteries lose charge over time.
One major problem with the Iconic 5 is that you can't get one in Australia. They are released by a kind of lottery in small batches and sell out in under 20 minutes each time. I have given up trying to get one.
@@greyman003 it actually won’t change until Australia adopts penalties for manufacturers making petrol cars. ALL legacy automakers need to load their EV’s into these other countries to lower their penalties which can be $Billions PA.
I can order a Tesla but I can’t order an ionic 5. No orders taken, no wait list, no idea. Tesla has superior software and resale value. I’ll buy one and later if Hyundai sorts out their story I might buy one. Until then it’s like comparing your fish wife to Giselle Bunchen, one is a sure thing the other is just a fantasy 😂
@@YouNeedToCalmDown76 Yep, spot on. I was looking at the ev6, there is a very long wait for that too. Articles discuss supply of electronic parts being a choke point.
I went from a model 3 to an ioniq 5. I really love the ioniq 5, looks and feels nice, great build quality, HUD, much more comfortable ride compared to the model 3. But I don't know if it's just me, but the one thing I realise now I don't want to go without is the built in dashcam and sentry model found only on Tesla's. To the point I am now preparing to swap my beloved ioniq 5 for a model y rwd shortly.
While the Tesla is good at capturing the moment, it lacks the definition to capture registration plate even at a close distance. That really defeat the purpose of using it for insurance purpose.
Agree sucks that Korea is allowed to have it but for some reason in the USA ioniqs don't have it. Also peeps forget to mention that the the charger network actually isn't as bad depending where you live (I do road trips from Cali to Texas and back with only 350kwh chargers and have had 0 issues. Again this is because it's a heavily traveled road. So do your research! Side note check out the road trip test between 2 tesla, an ioniq 5, Porsche taycan and mustang Mach e. (Spoiler Porsche won then ioniq 5. It's called road to Vegas.
One thing you omitted was the reverse alert for passing traffic in the Ioniq . Given the poor rear visibility in both cars, this is a big plus for the Ioniq.
Great review as always thanks Tom. Would really appreciate a comparison table side by side like you have in your mega tests in future car comparisons like this.
Not sure how much time you have had with both cars. The backseat of the Ioniq5 is one of the best due to its long wheel base, and that seats come with adjustable angles. One of the key differentiating attributes of the Ioniq 5 is the Vehicle-To-Load capability which is not mentioned at all in this review, as well as remote smart park assist. This comparison review is just too generic and didn't cover enough grounds to justify choosing one over the other.
In Canada the price difference between the model Y LR (the only bass trim you can get here) and the ioniq 5 limited 4×4 is 30k $ 🇨🇦. You don't even get the tax credit back for the Tesla. You need to be crazy to go with the tesla in canada.
Yeah I just looked the price up for comparison and was shocked how expensive the Tesla is. As a family dad I am still waiting to see how the ID BUZ price will be in Canada. Hopefully it is comparable to Toyota Sienna hybrid otherwise it'd be a hard sell.
A year later, the Model Y RWD is $60K and got the rebate and the Ioniq 5's price is creeping up with dealers adding fees. I was firmly into the ioniq5, but after two dealers wouldn't even give me a test drive, I am leaning model Y now. More space and better efficiency, but most importantly, no dealers.
I cannot understand how it can be legal to have all the controls on a screen where you can only use them by taking your attention away from the road. In all Australian states it's illegal to even hold a mobile phone because of the distraction. What's the difference?
@@Outrage82 That would be pointless for me Nick. I might be able to afford a second hand EV in a few years if I'm still driving by then. But I don't think controls should be a thing you have to find on a screen.
@@rais1953 it’s quite intuitive and not a distraction, far superior to old school car layouts. Sadly one can only realise this after a test drive. Ps: test drives are free.
Thanks for the review, Tom, really helpful. I have missed out twice on buying an ioniq 5 as they only release 100 or so cars at a time. But I did get a model Y which is coming later this month. My question is, which has better vision out of the rear and which has a better turning circle. I found both very poor on the Model Y I test drove recently.
You do know that in every Tesla you have a pemanent rear view camera that is crisp and sharp and that shows you what's going on behind you while driving. Therefore complainig about rear visibility is ridiculous.
@@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 what is ridiculous is suggesting you drive along with the rear camera on all the time - you won’t be able to do anything else on the screen!
@@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 I have one and another on order. Unlike you, I’m not afraid to point out their faults - they aren’t perfect by any stretch. Poor rear vision and poor turning circle are but two.
Really nice comparison from an Australian perspective. Some suggestions to improve the video: - Get some more B-roll that better explain what you're talking about. I think the part where you're explaining the speedometer is on the corner of the screen in the Model Y you cut to close up of going through the menus. I think showing actual speedo (plus other displays and icons on a normal dash) would give people who have not driven a Tesla before a better idea. There were a few other smaller incidences of this in the review where B-roll would have helped and there weren't any or you were about to point at something in the interior and you cut to an external shot of the car. - Lastly were just the audio volume normalisation. I think the interior audio was quite a bit louder than external shots. Nice review overall!
Ionig 5 clearly seems to be a better choice. Better car all together, more practical, more affordable and far better looking. What I dislike most is Tesla’s dashboard which looks like a kitchen counter with an iPad sitting on it.
Sun blinds - really depends on how thick it is. I've sworn off sunroofs without a hard/thick barrier between the glass and the cabin because the ones that just have a thin "blind" still let way too much heat into the cabin - unbearable in QLD summers and you can still feel the heat radiate onto your head even with the air con on full. Not sure why this is such a fad with these EV's.
@@wedgett1 Yep, no matter good the tint, the sun/heat still gets in All cars with a glass roof/sunroof need a proper THICK inbuilt shade!! Some manufacturers do it as a matter of course. Why don’t they all do it?
The mid model of the Ioniq 5 is worth getting for a $2000 price difference. All charger will be available in 2 years. Charge the Ioniq 5 at any Car Dealership using a DC Charge in less than 20min. The Ioniq 5 All wheel drive and better comfort, sliding rear seats, reclining front and rear seats, both left and right turn cameras are all features that are superior.
The harsh suspension in the Model Y, lack of an instrument cluster like you see in the Model X & no sun roof shade are 3 massive issues I have with the Y. I love the look of the Ioniq 5 & was tempted to try to buy one at the last release but the $83k driveaway price was way out of my budget. Will stick with my 2020 Outlander Phev for now (have 20 solar panels & a 7kw charger installed) & hope prices come down in future but am not optimistic after finding out today the Tesla Powerwall has gone up from $15k to $19k recently 😢. Great comparison review keep up the awesome work!
Thanks for the very detailed and well-spoken comparison. The base models of the 3, Y and Ioniq 5 pretty much all cost the same where I live and so it's not a simple choice, not made any easier in that my Kona EV is still a very good car.
A fantastic, practical, detailed review. We’ve just hired a Model Y for 3 days. I think the exterior styling is brilliant on the Hyundai. Just so cool. I like the Tesla but the front looks too blobby. It’s amazing how a fake grille on the S and X improve the looks. The thing that I was simply amazed at though was the astonishing technology in the Tesla. Yes it needs at least a speedo HUD but I found I loved the single large screen and what was available on it. The cameras are brilliant and the screen clarity. I’d still prefer simple buttons for things like the glovebox but I did start to get used to accessing it on the screen after a couple of days. The slow speed ride is definitely too firm though. I agree, too much for the owners it is made for. The practical space appears to be far better in the Y. With two young boys I’d have to get the Y. I think for space, practicality and technology you’d have to be spending well over $100k for something similar. I’ll be buying one.
Looking for a BEV to replace my '16 Malibu hybrid. I'm in Southern California. Drove the Ionic 5 and loved it. Drove the Ford Mach-e and liked it. Will be driving the Model Y in a few days. This was a fantastic comparison. Thank you.
The EV6 is slightly smaller. Longer than the I5, shorter than the MY, though the wheelbase is opposite, longer than the MY and shorter than the I5. In height, it is lower than both. But it still offers plenty of passenger space. Cargo space is less than both, but is still adequate at 480-490 litres (comparable to many mid-size ICE SUVs). Suspension tuning in the EV6 is specific to Australia, which is very nice. It is firmer and better controlled than the soft I5, but significantly smoother and quieter than the harsh MY. Tech and equipment is very similar to the I5 as they share the same platform, though the EV6 rwd has a longer rated range than both at 500+ kms. The interior is darker, sportier, and more driver oriented than both. It also manages to be quieter due to better sound insulation than the MY and better aero than I5. One big advantage for the EV6 is warranty, which is dramatically better than the Tesla. Considering most car loans are 5 years these days, the Tesla owner could be on the hook for both payments and repairs at the same time, while the I5 and EV6 owner is covered. When you add Tesla's reputation for inconsistent build quality and reliability, and high repair costs from a monopolised service system, that warranty lapse presents a possible source hardship. If I had to sum the cars up, the Tesla is the better "Tech Toy". It is willfully different, often only for the sake of being different, not better. They made an effort, possible by the fact it is a totally clean-sheet design and company, to really rethink every aspect of the vehicle's design, interface, and ownership leading to many significant innovations. But their focus on applying tech to every operation also has the impact of making many functions unnecessarily complex and unintuitive, or foregoing certain useful common-sense features, like a shade for the glass roof. Like the reviewer commented on the HVAC controls, or another reviewer I've seen who critcised how you have to use the touch screen to turn on the windshield wipers, an unnecessarily complex and distracting operation in poor weather conditions when the driver should be focusing on the road. Tesla fans will comment that there are a dozen other ways to turn on the wipers, but none of the options are better than a simple switch. It was designed to impress people, especially on first acquaintance. Novel, techy, distinctive, but not always better. If you like always having the newest gadget, and looking like a "tech" person, you probably won't mind the compromises, and will appreciate the different approach. The I5 and EV6 are better as "cars". They are held back in some ways by being from legacy manufacturers (primarily in terms of software), but they also benefit from decades of experience in designing useful, competent transportation. Where the MY forces the driver to adapt to the car, the I5 and EV6 are designed to fit the way people already use cars. Basic operations have less of a learning curve. I wouldn't let my mother-in-law drive a MY without first spending some time teaching her how it works, but the EV6 I would just hand her the keys knowing it is familiar enough. They are more comfortable. They are better built (though Tesla is improving). All three are great cars in their own way.
We love the Ioniq 5. The ease of owning the Tesla in Australia right now is incredibly compelling, however. Particularly if you’re likely to lean on public charging regularly.
Have you also considered shoulder width of the back seat? This is better on the Ioniq. This is probably due to the more square shaped design and that in the Ioniq you can actually recline the seats. Your leg space is sufficient and once that is the case on both cars, then shoulder width and recline become of more added value. The Ioniq would be even more preferable if the centre console could be removed altogether or slid to the front more than it can on the more expensive models. Other than your valuation of the rear interior, your comparison on the other characteristics are recognizable and thanks for sharing!
Great review overall. Why didn’t you include the tested range and efficiency of the Ionic 5 in the review (only the claimed)? Yet you did show the tested efficiency of the Model Y. This information will be very beneficial when comparing real world efficiency.
Not sure how that slipped through in editing, sorry. We've consistently been able to achieve around 17kWh/100km in the Ioniq 6 (sometimes much lower if you're doing mostly in-town work with one-pedal mode on), but its highway economy is 19-20kWh/100km (average of our SYD-MEL road trip run in the Ioniq 5).
I had spoken with the Kia Dealership in Alexandria who informed me the KIA EV6 RWD starts from $88k and is a 3 year wait time.....given the EV6 and Ioniq 5 share the same platform, possibly similar lead times? Just waiting for my Model Y to arrive in Feb-Mar '23!
Great comparison thanks. My Model Y is due to be delivered in September in Sydney. Looking forward to it. Can use voice commands to adjust air con. The sunroof is highly tinted so should be fine without cover
Reports from hot countries/environments are that you still feel the heat on the top of your head, particularly if you are tall. Just a cheapskate omission from a trillion dollar company, along with no front driver’s screen or rear parcel shelf !! 🤷♂️🤷♂️
@@Nicholas.T Use voice command and say “make it wormer” or cooler and it will change the temperature by 3 degrees. I wish this was standard. (237) FullShade - The First Retractable Roof Sunshade for Tesla Model 3/Y, Perfect Light & Heat Insulation - CZcams
great video comparison! i went with the i5 and it should be coming within next 3-6 weeks. In canada for now, the awd versions long range, the hyundai i5 is significantly cheaper. but like you said, can't go wrong with either one. i wasn't a big fan of the i5's exterior at first, until i saw one in person and i was like, oh, this is very nice
great comparison tom i really like the design of the ioniq 5 plus the interior over the tesla but you just cant beat the tesla super charging network as people have mentioned in the comments
I’ve just ordered my model y with black seats. I don’t have to worry about hot days As I live in England were we get less sunny days than the amount of wheels on the the Tesla
I don't like that all the Tesla controls are on the screen. I don't like it not having a HUD. I have two recent model Hyundai cars. Both are outstanding. I intend buying an Ioniq 5 next.
20% more efficient? Is it really? If I understood correctly the Tesla Y used 16.0 kw/h in the test while the Ioniq 5 used 16.1. Repairing EV cars won't come cheap. While not having seen specific data on these two cars the overall reliability of Hyundai is better than Tesla as a brand. Differences in depreciation will probably make the biggest impact on the overall economy.
As someone who has had an Electric Ionic for a couple of years there is a couple of things that you have missed out in this review. 1. Unlike Tesla, The NRMA / ChargeFox and Evie charge have not looked farther than the next financial quarter and they have only install one or two chargers per install site. The NRMA hasn’t even put in electrical supply boxes that will be able to supply more charges in the future!! If an electric car takes half an hour to charge you do not want to be waiting in a que. 2. Hyundai still have the old school service regime, to keep your car in warranty they insist you bring your car in for the same service intervals that you would take an internal combination car in for. Furthermore, every 4th service they sting you $800 to change the cooling fluid which to me is ridiculous. 3. Why should the taxpayers foot the bill for charging networks! If Tesla can do it, the big OEM car manufacturers should be doing it as well. It should be a condition of selling electric cars in Australia.
OEMS don't want to sell EV. they are force to do so as Tesla is taking the car market by storm, worldwide. For the service, of course they would try to charge. dealers are design to make more money doing servicing
I totally agree.I feel for people when more of these non Teslas are sold and there are such limited chargers around. Totally agree that the government should not be funding the charging networks.
I own a model y with 20 inch wheels. Looks good. But dang this ionic 5 looks soooo much better. But I'll probably buy another Tesla next for the fun factor and super charger network.
What you don’t say about the Ioniq-5, and I am the lucky and proud owner of one, is that it’s very easy for the steering wheel to block out vision of the speed indicator on the left. Why the heck didn’t they put the speed in the middle? Or at least give the option of having the speed in the centre cluster? It drives me crazy as in my preferred seating and steering wheel position I absolutely cannot see the speed indicator. Judging by online comments I am not alone.
Excellent, very fair review. I love my Model Y and will be keeping it. But you are so right about the ride quality being very firm. I never want to go back to all the buttons, knobs and switches in the Ioniq 5, and I have gotten very used to controlling the climate with voice control. I have found that once I got my settings where I wanted them, I rarely need to tinker with them, so wading through all the menus isn't a daily chore. My Tesla home charger has a terrific small connector. I have watched people struggle with the huge connectors on other electrics, that never seem to want to go in smoothly. And you neglected to mention that when you go on a road trip in a Tesla it plans all the charging stops for you. I understand that is not the case in the Ioniq 5, but I could be mistaken about that. Finally Tesla software updates are regular and I look forward to them. I have not heard much about updates in the Ioniq 5.
Thanks for the detailed comparison of these two cars, I think the Ioniq line is the closest to the Model Y among available EVs even in America. The ride in the Model Y is noticeably harder but I recently drove two different ICE cars on the same roads and found that the road was the main problem, not the suspension. Both ICEs were also harsh on those local roads. We don't have the RWD Model Y here in America so I've not experienced it. My Model Y dual motor is very quick both off the line and in the mid speed range. My personal preference in style is the minimalism of the Model Y and I find that I don't interact with the display very often while driving so I don't feel the need for an instrument cluster directly in front of me. Adjusting the climate settings can be a bit dangerous when using the display but I have come to use the voice control for all of that and it works perfectly. I do a lot of leisure travel over longer distances so the AP function is very useful for that aside from the occasional phantom braking. In the cases of PB, I just tap the accelerator and it continues along in AP. Cheers and drive safely.
I love the design of the Ioniq5 (exterior) but the Tesla Model Y is by far the best EV on the market! Especially considering the value. Ioniq5's interior is lower quality, clunky and buggy software. Low efficiency, disgusting dealerships... but it's selling point is the V2L.
I live in sunny Florida and the glass roof keeps the sun out very well. My y performance now has 28,500 miles on it since June 5th 2021 and no concerns with cabin heat because of the glass roof.
Ventilated seats!! Yes!! My son's Kia Cerato has them and they're brilliant. They really should be an option on more cars. Australia's not the only warm/hot climate country after all so I don't see why it's not more common. Nice review again BTW👍.
Tesla got my order because they had a test car to drive. Booked online, car was ready when I got there. Beautiful test drive. Ordered the next day, estimated delivery Feb to May. Contrast, Hyundai experience. Expressed interest online. Two days later, get a text to call 1800 number to book a test drive. After some music, person arranges a test drive but they only have Kona electric for a test drive. I say, no thanks. Before this, I went to the dealership in Castle Hill. They said we don’t deal with Ionic 5 here, call the HO or book online. Pathetic experience really, they don’t deserve our business till they work out the customer service experience
I've got an Ioniq 5 since last year and contemplate replacing it with this base Model Y that just became available here in EUrope. Main considerations are the space, the tech (navigation is really bad on the Ioniq 5) and the charging network (even if some superchargers are opened up, it's still easier with a Tesla). The LFP battery also promises a longer lifetime. On the other hand, the Ioniq 5 does have really fast charging, which has worked out to very good long distance traveling, even if the networks are a bit sparse in some places (and Tesla definitely has the better options). I could probably sell the Ioniq 5 at little/no loss, and then have money left after buying the Tesla...
I feel like these are gonna be like Android and Apple. Sometimes it's good to just switch up the ecosystem lol. I'm coming from a model 3 Tesla, and I'm looking at the Hyundai Ionic 5. Of course this will give me more room, also, the model wise here in Vancouver are marked up quite high. Both are heavily marked up, but the Y is almost in another price range, specifically because it has no base model. And I think in Australia you only get the top tier option.
@@yourfaceistube yes, we finally have some choice. I chose the Ioniq 5 over the Model 3. Partly since the I5 is more practical, partly because the Y wasn't available yet at that time. MY RWD is now available in my country at a good starting price, and already very complete.
@@bilgyno1 How was the Mark-ups for you guys if I may ask? (Essentially it's supposed to be $52k Canadian for the preferred trim, but dealerships marked them up to about $72k)
I have an Ioniq 5 in Britain, and we do 800 mile road trips to France every so often. Here, there is the Ionity network of chargers, which charge at 350KW, much better than the superchargers. We have a year- long subscription to get cheaper charging there too, which is a massive plus. Also in my opinion the Tesla is plain ugly.
Great review, just 1 thing - might help leaving the stats drop down boxes up for a few seconds longer. Had to go back to compare boot space balls for e.g.
@@Nicholas.T Yes but for how long? 5 secs, 10 secs, half a minute?? I reckon it is still a lot easier to pause the video and you can take your time reading what you want to. Simple.
@@birreboi Why is it that some makers of YT video clips have text on the screen for just the “right” amount of time, such that you never, ever feel the need to pause and do a re-run of that part ???? Why?? I suspect they are clever/smart enough to work out how much time the average viewer would take and then ADD 50% more time. BTW, do you produce YT videos?
I have no problem with my 2021 y performance with the 21 inch Uber turbine wheels. Coming from a 2017 Gt 350 the ride quality was worse. After 31,700 miles it still puts a smile on my face! 😊
I have owned a white on white Model 3 since 2019 - we have 2 dogs - the seats are not treated and there are zero wear or dirt marks . Maintenance ? Damp cloth.
Great review and I love the quirkiness of this vehicle. Reminds me of my first SAAB in the 80’s. It was so different from anything else on the road. I note that post Jan 2023 the car comes with Apple CarPlay and Android and satellite navigation. So it is good to see these have been added. I think this might be the choice for me given the removal of the FBT costs on a car lease for electric cars in Australia.
A better option? Umm.....absolutely! Have a look at literally hundreds of different car models (both ICE and EV) from EVERY OTHER manufacturer on the planet! The model Y (and it’s cousin the model 3) have the plainest, most uninviting interiors possible. A styling failure.
So real life example here, I pre-ordered both Ioniq 5 and Model Y. I ordered Ioniq 5 one month in advance. 8 month later, Tesla notified me that my car was ready to take delivery. Not a word from Hyundai. 1 month later (after receiving my model Y), Hyundai told me most likely you won't take delivery of your Ioniq 5 in 2023, and I'd have to wait until 2024. So hands down, if you even want an EV, you have to go with Tesla. They are at least a decade ahead of all other manufacturer's. You are basically rolling the dice with other brands as they are not established, and haven't figured everything out yet. The 2023 Model Y has also continued to improve. I received a 2023 model, and ride and build quality have all improved.
Great review, you forgot about the second false floor in the Tesla. It has a storage compartment behind the seats, it's taken up by the 3rd row if you opt for it. The other note is that Tesla has most features standard, which I prefer. Hyundai is still like other legacy automakers, making you pay more for safety, I've never understood that. I really wish Tesla would allow for the 360 view camera feature, but I guess it would by harder because they don't have a camera in the nose. Also, sadly, they are removing the ultrasonic sensors in the front and rear. Again, great review.
Model Y wins in all the more important features and qualities. The Y has more interior room, and more cargo room. The Y is more efficient. The Y gets more range. The Y is more powerful. The Y cost much less - up to $5-6k on the top models, limited vs performance. The Y has a useable front trunk. The Y has the Tesla charge network.
In the UK the Tesla is significantly more expensive than the i5. Most reviews are pointing to the supercharger network and saying if you can afford the extra cost of the Tesla it’s the easiest to own. Personally I think they are ugly and I didn’t want to spend ten grand plus more. So I’m happy with my i5.
I rocked up to a charge fox charger with two stalls in my model 3, one spot was taken by a Mercedes that was fully charged and just blocking the charger. The other spot had a stressed out ioniq 5 owner who couldn’t get the charger to work with his car. I tried my model 3 and it charged instantly. He was waiting for over an hour to try the bay the merc was in. He was stuck there as every other charger was out of action in the area besides the Tesla chargers down the road. I returned and drove away after 15 mins and drove away. Ioniq owner was still waiting for the Mercedes driver to move with no indication if that charger would actually work for him anyway
Test drove a MY during a cool spring time and i can even feel the heat coming from the sunroof. Cant imagine sitting in a fish bowl under the harsh summer climate.
Just got a Model Y after watching your review. The supercharging network, constant software that gives owners an upgrade without additional cost, the smooth look on the exterior, I also like the minimalist specs, auto-pilot and eventually FSD (although it's costly), etc...
Ioniq 5 is great and all and I really like tbh honest over the Tesla..but how do u get one? I mean whats the use of thinking or considering something which u cant get at all..So I went with the Y
While the Ioniq i5 boasts an appealing small car design, it stands in a different league than the Model Y. It resembles the charming hatchback style reminiscent of the 90s Geo Metro. In contrast, the Model Y takes on the role of a compact SUV.
I own an Ioniq 5 SEL RWD in the US, and I love the car. It has an excellent ride and build quality. However, my 2022 year built didn't come with battery preconditioning. and Tesla has that feature in all trim levels no matter what part of the world or climate region you're living in. The navigation system of the Ioniq 5 is almost useless compared to the excellent navigation system in Tesla. Right now, some Ioniq 5 owners feel frustrated with the battery preconditioning functionality. The software update in Hyundai is almost unexistence compared to Tesla, which updates his vehicle more frequently. Yes, the Ioniq 5 is a very good ev but also depends on what point of view you want to look at it from.
Being a model Y owner, I still prefer the looks of Ionic 5. But thanks to the spread out super charging network, Y was an easy choice to make. And not to mention the minimalistic design gives it a futuristic look to model Y.
I also prefer the look of the Ioniq 5. It’s sad that this pretty much comes down to the reliability of competing public charging networks - but for many buyers the Tesla network is very compelling. And it works. Consistently!
I also chose the Model Y over the Ioniq 5 even though I prefered the Hyundais design. But efficiency, price (in my case a gov. grant that the Ioniq 5 didn't qualify for), tech and interior space made me chose the Tesla
I’m looks at an EV MID WAY through 2023. I can get the Model Y for 57,788 (base) in Queensland. No Ioniq 5 available new. About 30k more for second hand one. Tech vs delivery vs range vs price. It’s a no brainer for the Tesla. FYI. Hyundai and Kia want you to service EV’ every 15,000 kms
Tesla just looks like many other cars available today, nothing special. The Ioniq 5 however is stunning, looks like nothing else on the road. For that alone its the Ioniq 5 that would get my money.
I looked at tesla and yes the tech is top notch, however the build quality let's it down. Hyundai have been building cars for years so nail the build quality. Tesla are opening up their superchargers so the ioniq 5 is capable of the charge rate taking just 18 minutes to charge from 10% to 80%. V2L capability in the Hyundai is super cool. I went for the ioniq 5 and haven't looked back, even enjoying the admiring glances from tesla drivers
That may have been an issue with US-made cars, but China-built cars are just fine. Even with the US cars, issues are minor (panel gaps etc - I know, I have one), but mechanically they are just fine, and you don't have to pay the Hyundai dealer tax to keep your warranty.
I think the Tesla wins just on efficiency. Efficiency will become a major consumer purchasing metric once consumers understand EVs better. The Hyundai may make up for it slightly with superior fast charging speed but there just aren’t that many ultra rapids in Australia. Even if there were the majority of charging will be at home and efficiency directly affects cost to run.
Real world tests show teslas will charge up quicker anyway due to their preconditioning and smaller pack. You will be on the road quicker in a Tesla. Not to mention being able to find a charger In the first place.
Thank you for a good review. I would get a Ionic. It is just more comfortable, has real buttons to control climate, has instrumental panel in front of driver and sun blind for the roof.
All very good points of the Hyundai.
You have no idea what to look for in an ev. The Ioniq 5 is beyond terrible. After my Test drive I was shocked at how bad it really is.
I live in California and I get the ioniq5 and I love it I have drive the Tesla and is a great car but I find the ioniq way more comfortable and the charging is so fast
@@unleashed885 the Ioniq 5 is a Gameboy. If you prefer a Gameboy to an iPad go for it.
Keep in mind if you go with othe EV brands, you will be very limited with charging your car when your traveling vs with tesla every city has a tesla fast charger. Atleast in California.
I test drove the Model Y earlier this week (with the 20 inch induction rims, so a firmer ride) had absolutely no problems with ride, handling or comfort. Ordered one that evening. Shortly after the test drive i spoke to a retired couple who had test driven it 30mins before me, they said they had no problem with the ride quality either and were going to order one too! Also those rims really improve the asthetic of the Y i think! Having said that i have no real problem with the Ioniq. I think it really is subjective. One thing to note is the LFP battery in the tesla (RWD) is likely to have a significantly longer lifespan compared to the NMC battery in the Ioniq., there have been plenty of case studies done on that, LFP also better for the environment. Having said that it's important to note that as soon as you go to the long range or performance Model Y the chemistry changes over to NMC for higher energy density.... For me, i'd take lifespan, eco friendliness and safety of LFP over the modest improvement in range of NMC. Great unbiased review BTW!
Mate you are the most detailed reviewer I’ve come across. The fact you consider tyre pressures, sidewall, efficiency, square ridge bumps etc is spot on. The details matter. Especially with going electric. Good work. Keep it up!! 👍🏼👍🏼
Good review and comparison. As the owner of a LR Model Y since January, I obviously agree with the verdict, and I agree with all of the criticisms. The ride is stiff and the lack of an instrument cluster takes some getting used to, but everything else shines. One pedal driving on twisty back roads is amazing, long trips are stress-free (Superchargers) and the storage/practicality is unmatched. The other thing I would point out, that it seems all of the reviewers miss is how many controls you can avoid by using the voice controls. They are outstanding and once you get familiar with them it's easy to almost never use the touch screen. All of that said, I tell friends who are looking to get an EV to do lots of research and test drive all of them ... multiple times. We even rented a Model Y for a day to see if it was really right for us. Figure out what's the right car for you and your family. It might be the Tesla, or the Hyundai, or some other one. Just stop driving an ICE vehicle.
Couln't agree more! Particularly with your last sentence!
Is it just me or the video quality is stuck on 360p? I'm probably too early
Looks like CZcams is still processing the 4K and 1080p versions. Taking its time tonight!
I thought it was something wrong with my end! Good to know
4 hours later, still only 360p, that's kinda odd
1080p for me
I've had my Ioniq 5 (MY22 so some small spec changes) AWD for about 6 weeks and couldn't be happier. The power, comfort, ride and build quality can't really be faulted. Have driven Model 3's but not the Y. Tesla definitely does the tech and charging network well, but I couldn't live with the (admittedly now improved) build quality and that ugly mug.
I tried to get the ioniq 5 but gave up because of the incredibly frustrating ordering lottery. haven't regretted getting my model 3, but do love the look of the ioniq 5
So true
I'm glad there are good EVs for those who are looking for a car rather than another gadget in their tech arsenal. Honestly I couldn't care less if my Model 3 has doors or not. I love the computer on wheels aspect of it. Cars I could find plenty.
@@horvathszzsoltwouldn’t it have been cheaper to buy an iPad? At least you wouldn’t have to look at that hideous thing in your driveway every day.
@@peterthompson99 xD If that was the case I'd probably opt for something else but I really like how it looks. I just don't care for the panel gaps or what material the seats made out of.
I have an I5 and my wife is getting the Y in a few days. We agree the I5 is the nicer ride and the Y’s tech is so much better. We’ll know in a few months which is the better car to own.
So, what's the verdict? I5 vs Y?
@@brooKlynKiteflyer i picked up the Y today. The suspension is awful (on 19”s) outside the city and off the smooth motorways. Some great tech ruined with an unpleasant drive.
@@robhaitch5544 I see well good luck, yes, the tech in tesla is far superior than the competitions. I went with the ioniq 5 instead since the fit and finish and ride quality was far superior than other comparable evs out there and also I am using it for local driving so I'm plugging it at home.
Have you got an answer on which car you prefer now?
and what is the impression comparing to i5 for now? What would you choose?
I'd prefer the Ioniq 5, as I have the option to home charge the vehicle. The Ioniq 5 is better looking, has a longer warranty, and has a compliant ride.
Easy to home charge the Tesla that's my main charging method overnight or during day with solar panels
I also home charge my Tesla with either 120 or 220V dryer outlet = no wall charger or electrician needed! I hear most Teslas home charge unless on a trip.
We've finally driven both.. August 2022.
Model Y - We won't be getting one a few deal breakers: Head rest causes wife to have sore head after 20m of driving, can't adjust headrest. Suspension is way too hard for our roads (B roads in UK). Wife found it much harder to get in and out of the car - banging her head on the pillar.
Ionic 5 - No deal breakers. Things we didn't like - honestly nothing. Even the boot height was great as we're coming from a Landrover D4 with tail gate.
Summary - Tesla, starting to look dated. Felt 'American' in the interior - as in a bit cheap. No other features in the car other than a USB port in the back seat. Loved the space when in the Model Y.
Ionic 5 - just did everything better practicality wise. Tesla is ahead in tech - but at sacrifice of some basic things like seat adjustment, easy access buttons for regular tasks. Feels like most of the money is going into the large tablet than the rest of the car.
So I understand though why Tesla are popular. We don't need the supercharger network - so this really puts the other value adds of a Tesla to test, and it (for us at least) feel a little behind the Ionic 5.
Depends which model. We have the ultimate and the seat adjustment (once you get it right) is programmable to the user profile. So even though me and the other half share a car it adjusts my seat, my settings and my radio settings...the only thing it doesn't do is adjust the rear view mirror and that head rest :)
The Hyundai centre console slides forward as required,giving the rear more room
I have to say that I would prefer the Ioniq 5.
I like the ventilated seat and the HUD that is available for the IONIQ 5, also the built-in motorized shade for the sunroof is nice.
Too bad Hyundai does not sell the solar roof in Australia.
I don’t think a solar roof is really worth it. Such a small amount of electricity generated.
@@metube9541 I agree. Buy cheaper PV panels and put them somewhere fixed and sunny.
@@metube9541 The idea of the solar roof is just to keep the car charged if it is idle for a long time, like at an airport, as all batteries lose charge over time.
One major problem with the Iconic 5 is that you can't get one in Australia. They are released by a kind of lottery in small batches and sell out in under 20 minutes each time. I have given up trying to get one.
That will change. If you want one now it is an issue.
@@greyman003 it actually won’t change until Australia adopts penalties for manufacturers making petrol cars. ALL legacy automakers need to load their EV’s into these other countries to lower their penalties which can be $Billions PA.
I can order a Tesla but I can’t order an ionic 5. No orders taken, no wait list, no idea. Tesla has superior software and resale value. I’ll buy one and later if Hyundai sorts out their story I might buy one. Until then it’s like comparing your fish wife to Giselle Bunchen, one is a sure thing the other is just a fantasy 😂
@@greyman003 2 months later......still hasn't charged
@@YouNeedToCalmDown76 Yep, spot on. I was looking at the ev6, there is a very long wait for that too.
Articles discuss supply of electronic parts being a choke point.
I went from a model 3 to an ioniq 5. I really love the ioniq 5, looks and feels nice, great build quality, HUD, much more comfortable ride compared to the model 3. But I don't know if it's just me, but the one thing I realise now I don't want to go without is the built in dashcam and sentry model found only on Tesla's. To the point I am now preparing to swap my beloved ioniq 5 for a model y rwd shortly.
While the Tesla is good at capturing the moment, it lacks the definition to capture registration plate even at a close distance. That really defeat the purpose of using it for insurance purpose.
Agree sucks that Korea is allowed to have it but for some reason in the USA ioniqs don't have it. Also peeps forget to mention that the the charger network actually isn't as bad depending where you live (I do road trips from Cali to Texas and back with only 350kwh chargers and have had 0 issues. Again this is because it's a heavily traveled road. So do your research! Side note check out the road trip test between 2 tesla, an ioniq 5, Porsche taycan and mustang Mach e. (Spoiler Porsche won then ioniq 5. It's called road to Vegas.
One thing you omitted was the reverse alert for passing traffic in the Ioniq . Given the poor rear visibility in both cars, this is a big plus for the Ioniq.
Great detailled and unbiased comparision👍
Thanks!
Don't think for a second we missed what you said on 7:33 🤣🤣🤣
And we will be able get our hands on these beautiful vehicles in about 5 to 10 years...
Great review as always thanks Tom. Would really appreciate a comparison table side by side like you have in your mega tests in future car comparisons like this.
Not sure how much time you have had with both cars. The backseat of the Ioniq5 is one of the best due to its long wheel base, and that seats come with adjustable angles. One of the key differentiating attributes of the Ioniq 5 is the Vehicle-To-Load capability which is not mentioned at all in this review, as well as remote smart park assist. This comparison review is just too generic and didn't cover enough grounds to justify choosing one over the other.
Also no mention of the streamlined OTA updates from Tesla.
In Canada the price difference between the model Y LR (the only bass trim you can get here) and the ioniq 5 limited 4×4 is 30k $ 🇨🇦. You don't even get the tax credit back for the Tesla. You need to be crazy to go with the tesla in canada.
Yeah I just looked the price up for comparison and was shocked how expensive the Tesla is. As a family dad I am still waiting to see how the ID BUZ price will be in Canada. Hopefully it is comparable to Toyota Sienna hybrid otherwise it'd be a hard sell.
Exactly. That was the dealbreaker for me. Put an order in for an IQ5 last January....still waiting.
A year later, the Model Y RWD is $60K and got the rebate and the Ioniq 5's price is creeping up with dealers adding fees. I was firmly into the ioniq5, but after two dealers wouldn't even give me a test drive, I am leaning model Y now. More space and better efficiency, but most importantly, no dealers.
@@wgemini4422 so go with the model Y. Here in 🇨🇦 it's a 3 years waiting list for the ioniq 5.
@@avis1978 I know. Very frustrating. I am still hoping we will get something cheaper in the next year or so though.
I cannot understand how it can be legal to have all the controls on a screen where you can only use them by taking your attention away from the road. In all Australian states it's illegal to even hold a mobile phone because of the distraction. What's the difference?
take one for a test drive and you'll discover why.
@@Outrage82 That would be pointless for me Nick. I might be able to afford a second hand EV in a few years if I'm still driving by then. But I don't think controls should be a thing you have to find on a screen.
@@rais1953 it’s quite intuitive and not a distraction, far superior to old school car layouts. Sadly one can only realise this after a test drive. Ps: test drives are free.
@@Outrage82 Appreciate the information. If anyone I know is going to have a look at a Tesla I might go along.
Thanks for the review, Tom, really helpful. I have missed out twice on buying an ioniq 5 as they only release 100 or so cars at a time. But I did get a model Y which is coming later this month. My question is, which has better vision out of the rear and which has a better turning circle. I found both very poor on the Model Y I test drove recently.
You do know that in every Tesla you have a pemanent rear view camera that is crisp and sharp and that shows you what's going on behind you while driving. Therefore complainig about rear visibility is ridiculous.
@@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 what is ridiculous is suggesting you drive along with the rear camera on all the time - you won’t be able to do anything else on the screen!
@@mattfm6329 you clearly don't own a Tesla.
@@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 I have one and another on order. Unlike you, I’m not afraid to point out their faults - they aren’t perfect by any stretch. Poor rear vision and poor turning circle are but two.
Really nice comparison from an Australian perspective.
Some suggestions to improve the video:
- Get some more B-roll that better explain what you're talking about. I think the part where you're explaining the speedometer is on the corner of the screen in the Model Y you cut to close up of going through the menus. I think showing actual speedo (plus other displays and icons on a normal dash) would give people who have not driven a Tesla before a better idea. There were a few other smaller incidences of this in the review where B-roll would have helped and there weren't any or you were about to point at something in the interior and you cut to an external shot of the car.
- Lastly were just the audio volume normalisation. I think the interior audio was quite a bit louder than external shots.
Nice review overall!
Ionig 5 clearly seems to be a better choice. Better car all together, more practical, more affordable and far better looking. What I dislike most is Tesla’s dashboard which looks like a kitchen counter with an iPad sitting on it.
Great review. Really breaks down the pros and cons of both cars. I’m a new subscriber because of this review. 😊👍
Sun blinds - really depends on how thick it is. I've sworn off sunroofs without a hard/thick barrier between the glass and the cabin because the ones that just have a thin "blind" still let way too much heat into the cabin - unbearable in QLD summers and you can still feel the heat radiate onto your head even with the air con on full.
Not sure why this is such a fad with these EV's.
@@SS-yw7vo tried that - nothing can stop the QLD sun in summer ;)
@@SS-yw7vo yeppers
@@wedgett1 Yep, no matter good the tint, the sun/heat still gets in
All cars with a glass roof/sunroof need a proper THICK inbuilt shade!!
Some manufacturers do it as a matter of course. Why don’t they all do it?
@@Nicholas.T agreed! Especially in warmer climates.
He completely dismissed the reclining seats in the back for the IONiQ 5q
The mid model of the Ioniq 5 is worth getting for a $2000 price difference. All charger will be available in 2 years. Charge the Ioniq 5 at any Car Dealership using a DC Charge in less than 20min.
The Ioniq 5 All wheel drive and better comfort, sliding rear seats, reclining front and rear seats, both left and right turn cameras are all features that are superior.
Great review, just waiting for the GV60 vs Model Y comparison!
The harsh suspension in the Model Y, lack of an instrument cluster like you see in the Model X & no sun roof shade are 3 massive issues I have with the Y. I love the look of the Ioniq 5 & was tempted to try to buy one at the last release but the $83k driveaway price was way out of my budget. Will stick with my 2020 Outlander Phev for now (have 20 solar panels & a 7kw charger installed) & hope prices come down in future but am not optimistic after finding out today the Tesla Powerwall has gone up from $15k to $19k recently 😢. Great comparison review keep up the awesome work!
Thanks for the very detailed and well-spoken comparison. The base models of the 3, Y and Ioniq 5 pretty much all cost the same where I live and so it's not a simple choice, not made any easier in that my Kona EV is still a very good car.
Considering it’s a gas car conversion, the Kona EV is indeed surprisingly good. My only complaint is that it is FWD. It has too much torque for FWD.
@@lemongavine I got used to that in a few weeks of ownership. Four years on it's simply not a problem.
@@paulaxford6754 I’m used to it, but it would still be much better if it were RWD.
A fantastic, practical, detailed review. We’ve just hired a Model Y for 3 days. I think the exterior styling is brilliant on the Hyundai. Just so cool. I like the Tesla but the front looks too blobby. It’s amazing how a fake grille on the S and X improve the looks. The thing that I was simply amazed at though was the astonishing technology in the Tesla. Yes it needs at least a speedo HUD but I found I loved the single large screen and what was available on it. The cameras are brilliant and the screen clarity. I’d still prefer simple buttons for things like the glovebox but I did start to get used to accessing it on the screen after a couple of days. The slow speed ride is definitely too firm though. I agree, too much for the owners it is made for. The practical space appears to be far better in the Y. With two young boys I’d have to get the Y. I think for space, practicality and technology you’d have to be spending well over $100k for something similar. I’ll be buying one.
Glad to be a help!
Looking for a BEV to replace my '16 Malibu hybrid. I'm in Southern California. Drove the Ionic 5 and loved it. Drove the Ford Mach-e and liked it. Will be driving the Model Y in a few days. This was a fantastic comparison. Thank you.
How does the Kia EV6 compare to these 2, including size / dimensions?
The EV6 is slightly smaller. Longer than the I5, shorter than the MY, though the wheelbase is opposite, longer than the MY and shorter than the I5. In height, it is lower than both. But it still offers plenty of passenger space. Cargo space is less than both, but is still adequate at 480-490 litres (comparable to many mid-size ICE SUVs).
Suspension tuning in the EV6 is specific to Australia, which is very nice. It is firmer and better controlled than the soft I5, but significantly smoother and quieter than the harsh MY.
Tech and equipment is very similar to the I5 as they share the same platform, though the EV6 rwd has a longer rated range than both at 500+ kms.
The interior is darker, sportier, and more driver oriented than both. It also manages to be quieter due to better sound insulation than the MY and better aero than I5.
One big advantage for the EV6 is warranty, which is dramatically better than the Tesla. Considering most car loans are 5 years these days, the Tesla owner could be on the hook for both payments and repairs at the same time, while the I5 and EV6 owner is covered. When you add Tesla's reputation for inconsistent build quality and reliability, and high repair costs from a monopolised service system, that warranty lapse presents a possible source hardship.
If I had to sum the cars up, the Tesla is the better "Tech Toy". It is willfully different, often only for the sake of being different, not better. They made an effort, possible by the fact it is a totally clean-sheet design and company, to really rethink every aspect of the vehicle's design, interface, and ownership leading to many significant innovations. But their focus on applying tech to every operation also has the impact of making many functions unnecessarily complex and unintuitive, or foregoing certain useful common-sense features, like a shade for the glass roof. Like the reviewer commented on the HVAC controls, or another reviewer I've seen who critcised how you have to use the touch screen to turn on the windshield wipers, an unnecessarily complex and distracting operation in poor weather conditions when the driver should be focusing on the road. Tesla fans will comment that there are a dozen other ways to turn on the wipers, but none of the options are better than a simple switch. It was designed to impress people, especially on first acquaintance. Novel, techy, distinctive, but not always better. If you like always having the newest gadget, and looking like a "tech" person, you probably won't mind the compromises, and will appreciate the different approach.
The I5 and EV6 are better as "cars". They are held back in some ways by being from legacy manufacturers (primarily in terms of software), but they also benefit from decades of experience in designing useful, competent transportation. Where the MY forces the driver to adapt to the car, the I5 and EV6 are designed to fit the way people already use cars. Basic operations have less of a learning curve. I wouldn't let my mother-in-law drive a MY without first spending some time teaching her how it works, but the EV6 I would just hand her the keys knowing it is familiar enough. They are more comfortable. They are better built (though Tesla is improving).
All three are great cars in their own way.
If I absolutely had no other choice but either of these, it'd be Ioniq 5 for sure
We love the Ioniq 5. The ease of owning the Tesla in Australia right now is incredibly compelling, however. Particularly if you’re likely to lean on public charging regularly.
@@chasingcars why no mention of Ioniq 5 V2L?
Have you also considered shoulder width of the back seat? This is better on the Ioniq. This is probably due to the more square shaped design and that in the Ioniq you can actually recline the seats. Your leg space is sufficient and once that is the case on both cars, then shoulder width and recline become of more added value. The Ioniq would be even more preferable if the centre console could be removed altogether or slid to the front more than it can on the more expensive models. Other than your valuation of the rear interior, your comparison on the other characteristics are recognizable and thanks for sharing!
Great review overall. Why didn’t you include the tested range and efficiency of the Ionic 5 in the review (only the claimed)? Yet you did show the tested efficiency of the Model Y. This information will be very beneficial when comparing real world efficiency.
Not sure how that slipped through in editing, sorry. We've consistently been able to achieve around 17kWh/100km in the Ioniq 6 (sometimes much lower if you're doing mostly in-town work with one-pedal mode on), but its highway economy is 19-20kWh/100km (average of our SYD-MEL road trip run in the Ioniq 5).
@@chasingcars why no mention of Ioniq 5 V2L?
I had spoken with the Kia Dealership in Alexandria who informed me the KIA EV6 RWD starts from $88k and is a 3 year wait time.....given the EV6 and Ioniq 5 share the same platform, possibly similar lead times?
Just waiting for my Model Y to arrive in Feb-Mar '23!
Great comparison thanks. My Model Y is due to be delivered in September in Sydney. Looking forward to it. Can use voice commands to adjust air con. The sunroof is highly tinted so should be fine without cover
Reports from hot countries/environments are that you still feel the heat on the top of your head, particularly if you are tall.
Just a cheapskate omission from a trillion dollar company, along with no front driver’s screen or rear parcel shelf !! 🤷♂️🤷♂️
I have the model 3 and you do still get a bit too much heat through in summer, however you can get the clip in roof shades that fix that nicely.
@@Nicholas.T Use voice command and say “make it wormer” or cooler and it will change the temperature by 3 degrees.
I wish this was standard.
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It gets really hot in the cabin during hot days.
great video comparison! i went with the i5 and it should be coming within next 3-6 weeks. In canada for now, the awd versions long range, the hyundai i5 is significantly cheaper. but like you said, can't go wrong with either one. i wasn't a big fan of the i5's exterior at first, until i saw one in person and i was like, oh, this is very nice
great comparison tom i really like the design of the ioniq 5 plus the interior over the tesla but you just cant beat the tesla super charging network as people have mentioned in the comments
Thanks Ezekiel.
Tesla is in the process of opening up their supercharging network to other brands of cars, progressively, in different parts of the world.
@@chasingcars why no mention of Ioniq 5 V2L?
Why did you not compare the build quality? Gaps, misaligned doors, drag coefficient etc?
I’ve just ordered my model y with black seats. I don’t have to worry about hot days As I live in England were we get less sunny days than the amount of wheels on the the Tesla
I don't like that all the Tesla controls are on the screen. I don't like it not having a HUD.
I have two recent model Hyundai cars. Both are outstanding. I intend buying an Ioniq 5 next.
Good for you.
20% more efficient is a massive advantage and hard to look passed.
20% more efficient? Is it really? If I understood correctly the Tesla Y used 16.0 kw/h in the test while the Ioniq 5 used 16.1.
Repairing EV cars won't come cheap. While not having seen specific data on these two cars the overall reliability of Hyundai is better than Tesla as a brand.
Differences in depreciation will probably make the biggest impact on the overall economy.
This was a exceptional review got to say.
As someone who has had an Electric Ionic for a couple of years there is a couple of things that you have missed out in this review.
1. Unlike Tesla, The NRMA / ChargeFox and Evie charge have not looked farther than the next financial quarter and they have only install one or two chargers per install site. The NRMA hasn’t even put in electrical supply boxes that will be able to supply more charges in the future!! If an electric car takes half an hour to charge you do not want to be waiting in a que.
2. Hyundai still have the old school service regime, to keep your car in warranty they insist you bring your car in for the same service intervals that you would take an internal combination car in for. Furthermore, every 4th service they sting you $800 to change the cooling fluid which to me is ridiculous.
3. Why should the taxpayers foot the bill for charging networks! If Tesla can do it, the big OEM car manufacturers should be doing it as well. It should be a condition of selling electric cars in Australia.
OEMS don't want to sell EV. they are force to do so as Tesla is taking the car market by storm, worldwide.
For the service, of course they would try to charge. dealers are design to make more money doing servicing
@@stephenstevens5746 I totally agree with you, Toyota's solution was to produce a EV that the wheels literally fell off. 😀
I totally agree.I feel for people when more of these non Teslas are sold and there are such limited chargers around. Totally agree that the government should not be funding the charging networks.
I own a model y with 20 inch wheels. Looks good. But dang this ionic 5 looks soooo much better. But I'll probably buy another Tesla next for the fun factor and super charger network.
What you don’t say about the Ioniq-5, and I am the lucky and proud owner of one, is that it’s very easy for the steering wheel to block out vision of the speed indicator on the left. Why the heck didn’t they put the speed in the middle? Or at least give the option of having the speed in the centre cluster? It drives me crazy as in my preferred seating and steering wheel position I absolutely cannot see the speed indicator. Judging by online comments I am not alone.
Excellent, very fair review. I love my Model Y and will be keeping it. But you are so right about the ride quality being very firm. I never want to go back to all the buttons, knobs and switches in the Ioniq 5, and I have gotten very used to controlling the climate with voice control. I have found that once I got my settings where I wanted them, I rarely need to tinker with them, so wading through all the menus isn't a daily chore. My Tesla home charger has a terrific small connector. I have watched people struggle with the huge connectors on other electrics, that never seem to want to go in smoothly. And you neglected to mention that when you go on a road trip in a Tesla it plans all the charging stops for you. I understand that is not the case in the Ioniq 5, but I could be mistaken about that. Finally Tesla software updates are regular and I look forward to them. I have not heard much about updates in the Ioniq 5.
Thanks for the detailed comparison of these two cars, I think the Ioniq line is the closest to the Model Y among available EVs even in America. The ride in the Model Y is noticeably harder but I recently drove two different ICE cars on the same roads and found that the road was the main problem, not the suspension. Both ICEs were also harsh on those local roads. We don't have the RWD Model Y here in America so I've not experienced it. My Model Y dual motor is very quick both off the line and in the mid speed range. My personal preference in style is the minimalism of the Model Y and I find that I don't interact with the display very often while driving so I don't feel the need for an instrument cluster directly in front of me. Adjusting the climate settings can be a bit dangerous when using the display but I have come to use the voice control for all of that and it works perfectly. I do a lot of leisure travel over longer distances so the AP function is very useful for that aside from the occasional phantom braking. In the cases of PB, I just tap the accelerator and it continues along in AP. Cheers and drive safely.
I love the design of the Ioniq5 (exterior) but the Tesla Model Y is by far the best EV on the market! Especially considering the value.
Ioniq5's interior is lower quality, clunky and buggy software. Low efficiency, disgusting dealerships... but it's selling point is the V2L.
That roof on the Tesla that does not shade over is a deal breaker for me
I live in sunny Florida and the glass roof keeps the sun out very well. My y performance now has 28,500 miles on it since June 5th 2021 and no concerns with cabin heat because of the glass roof.
Ventilated seats!! Yes!!
My son's Kia Cerato has them and they're brilliant. They really should be an option on more cars. Australia's not the only warm/hot climate country after all so I don't see why it's not more common.
Nice review again BTW👍.
Great feature for Australia, particularly if the manufacturer is going to insist on a huge glass roof!
Great review and comparison! I see what you did there 22:03 😁
Tesla got my order because they had a test car to drive. Booked online, car was ready when I got there. Beautiful test drive. Ordered the next day, estimated delivery Feb to May.
Contrast, Hyundai experience. Expressed interest online. Two days later, get a text to call 1800 number to book a test drive. After some music, person arranges a test drive but they only have Kona electric for a test drive. I say, no thanks. Before this, I went to the dealership in Castle Hill. They said we don’t deal with Ionic 5 here, call the HO or book online. Pathetic experience really, they don’t deserve our business till they work out the customer service experience
If the Tesla network becomes open would that change your verdict?
I've got an Ioniq 5 since last year and contemplate replacing it with this base Model Y that just became available here in EUrope. Main considerations are the space, the tech (navigation is really bad on the Ioniq 5) and the charging network (even if some superchargers are opened up, it's still easier with a Tesla). The LFP battery also promises a longer lifetime. On the other hand, the Ioniq 5 does have really fast charging, which has worked out to very good long distance traveling, even if the networks are a bit sparse in some places (and Tesla definitely has the better options). I could probably sell the Ioniq 5 at little/no loss, and then have money left after buying the Tesla...
I feel like these are gonna be like Android and Apple. Sometimes it's good to just switch up the ecosystem lol. I'm coming from a model 3 Tesla, and I'm looking at the Hyundai Ionic 5. Of course this will give me more room, also, the model wise here in Vancouver are marked up quite high. Both are heavily marked up, but the Y is almost in another price range, specifically because it has no base model. And I think in Australia you only get the top tier option.
@@yourfaceistube yes, we finally have some choice. I chose the Ioniq 5 over the Model 3. Partly since the I5 is more practical, partly because the Y wasn't available yet at that time.
MY RWD is now available in my country at a good starting price, and already very complete.
@@bilgyno1 How was the Mark-ups for you guys if I may ask? (Essentially it's supposed to be $52k Canadian for the preferred trim, but dealerships marked them up to about $72k)
Holy, is it just me or is Tom *extremely* excited in this video. Like, way, way more enthusiastic than usual.
he seems way more excited driving the tesla. keeps going on and on. on how good it handles
@@stephenstevens5746 - 🤣
If only you could buy a 5 in Australia.
Tom, if you could charge the car at home and driving was predominantly work and school trips which would get the vote?
If I wasn’t going to drive more than a few hundred kilometres from home, then the Ioniq 5, I think.
I have an Ioniq 5 in Britain, and we do 800 mile road trips to France every so often. Here, there is the Ionity network of chargers, which charge at 350KW, much better than the superchargers. We have a year- long subscription to get cheaper charging there too, which is a massive plus. Also in my opinion the Tesla is plain ugly.
You showed the “as Tested” range for the Model Y. What’s the “As Tested” range of the ioniq 5?
Great review, just 1 thing - might help leaving the stats drop down boxes up for a few seconds longer. Had to go back to compare boot space balls for e.g.
Yep, fair tip. Thank you.
Or you could easily press pause.
@@birreboi Or, it could be left on the screen longer!!
@@Nicholas.T Yes but for how long? 5 secs, 10 secs, half a minute?? I reckon it is still a lot easier to pause the video and you can take your time reading what you want to. Simple.
@@birreboi Why is it that some makers of YT video clips have text on the screen for just the “right” amount of time, such that you never, ever feel the need to pause and do a re-run of that part ????
Why??
I suspect they are clever/smart enough to work out how much time the average viewer would take and then ADD 50% more time.
BTW, do you produce YT videos?
I have no problem with my 2021 y performance with the 21 inch Uber turbine wheels. Coming from a 2017 Gt 350 the ride quality was worse. After 31,700 miles it still puts a smile on my face! 😊
I have owned a white on white Model 3 since 2019 - we have 2 dogs - the seats are not treated and there are zero wear or dirt marks . Maintenance ? Damp cloth.
Chasing Cars : what's up with 360p video quality only ?!?!?!?!
Dunno. CZcams says it is looking into it and re-encoding the video.
Great review and I love the quirkiness of this vehicle. Reminds me of my first SAAB in the 80’s. It was so different from anything else on the road. I note that post Jan 2023 the car comes with Apple CarPlay and Android and satellite navigation. So it is good to see these have been added. I think this might be the choice for me given the removal of the FBT costs on a car lease for electric cars in Australia.
Is there not a better option than putting that ipad in the middle of the tesla? It looks like an afterthought
A better option?
Umm.....absolutely!
Have a look at literally hundreds of different car models (both ICE and EV) from EVERY OTHER manufacturer on the planet!
The model Y (and it’s cousin the model 3) have the plainest, most uninviting interiors possible. A styling failure.
Also, do't you get sliding rear seat in australia on the hyundai?
So real life example here, I pre-ordered both Ioniq 5 and Model Y. I ordered Ioniq 5 one month in advance. 8 month later, Tesla notified me that my car was ready to take delivery. Not a word from Hyundai. 1 month later (after receiving my model Y), Hyundai told me most likely you won't take delivery of your Ioniq 5 in 2023, and I'd have to wait until 2024. So hands down, if you even want an EV, you have to go with Tesla. They are at least a decade ahead of all other manufacturer's. You are basically rolling the dice with other brands as they are not established, and haven't figured everything out yet. The 2023 Model Y has also continued to improve. I received a 2023 model, and ride and build quality have all improved.
Great review, you forgot about the second false floor in the Tesla. It has a storage compartment behind the seats, it's taken up by the 3rd row if you opt for it. The other note is that Tesla has most features standard, which I prefer. Hyundai is still like other legacy automakers, making you pay more for safety, I've never understood that. I really wish Tesla would allow for the 360 view camera feature, but I guess it would by harder because they don't have a camera in the nose. Also, sadly, they are removing the ultrasonic sensors in the front and rear. Again, great review.
Model Y wins in all the more important features and qualities. The Y has more interior room, and more cargo room. The Y is more efficient. The Y gets more range. The Y is more powerful. The Y cost much less - up to $5-6k on the top models, limited vs performance. The Y has a useable front trunk. The Y has the Tesla charge network.
australia getting screwed so hard, in canada the ioniq 5 costs 30% less than the tesla. RIP
Isn’t it more the case that Canada is overpaying for the Tesla?
@@chasingcars model y awd in the USA is 66k usd = 85k cad. Sold in Canada for 87k. So no, Australia is absolutely getting screwed
In the UK the Tesla is significantly more expensive than the i5. Most reviews are pointing to the supercharger network and saying if you can afford the extra cost of the Tesla it’s the easiest to own.
Personally I think they are ugly and I didn’t want to spend ten grand plus more. So I’m happy with my i5.
@@ChrisWhittenMusic yea I'm trading in my model 3 for an i5, but I'm 10 months into my 18month reservation. rip
I rocked up to a charge fox charger with two stalls in my model 3, one spot was taken by a Mercedes that was fully charged and just blocking the charger. The other spot had a stressed out ioniq 5 owner who couldn’t get the charger to work with his car. I tried my model 3 and it charged instantly. He was waiting for over an hour to try the bay the merc was in. He was stuck there as every other charger was out of action in the area besides the Tesla chargers down the road. I returned and drove away after 15 mins and drove away. Ioniq owner was still waiting for the Mercedes driver to move with no indication if that charger would actually work for him anyway
IQ5. Great looking car. Reminds me a bit of the Lancia Delta Integrale.
Does the center bin not slide forward for when you have a 5th passenger? I remember seeing that, maybe it's an option.
I like physical buttons more than everything on a screen. Plus I need to have speed right in front of me.
How is your Nokia going?
Test drove a MY during a cool spring time and i can even feel the heat coming from the sunroof. Cant imagine sitting in a fish bowl under the harsh summer climate.
Btw you can still use everything available in the infotainment with a wifi hotspot. Don't need to subscribe to the LTE connectivity.
Just got a Model Y after watching your review. The supercharging network, constant software that gives owners an upgrade without additional cost, the smooth look on the exterior, I also like the minimalist specs, auto-pilot and eventually FSD (although it's costly), etc...
What an absolute, clear and to the point verdict :)
Tesla for infrastructure, Hyundai for the EV vehicle.
Ioniq 5 is great and all and I really like tbh honest over the Tesla..but how do u get one? I mean whats the use of thinking or considering something which u cant get at all..So I went with the Y
I think you undersold the Tesla controls that not only can be altered by the screen but are designed to make good use of voice commands
While the Ioniq i5 boasts an appealing small car design, it stands in a different league than the Model Y. It resembles the charming hatchback style reminiscent of the 90s Geo Metro. In contrast, the Model Y takes on the role of a compact SUV.
I own an Ioniq 5 SEL RWD in the US,
and I love the car. It has an excellent ride and build quality.
However, my 2022 year built didn't come with battery preconditioning.
and Tesla has that feature in all trim levels no matter what part of the world or climate region you're living in.
The navigation system of the Ioniq 5 is almost useless compared to the excellent navigation system in Tesla.
Right now, some Ioniq 5 owners feel frustrated with the battery preconditioning functionality.
The software update in Hyundai is almost unexistence compared to Tesla, which updates his vehicle more frequently.
Yes, the Ioniq 5 is a very good ev but also depends on what point of view you want to look at it from.
Being a model Y owner, I still prefer the looks of Ionic 5. But thanks to the spread out super charging network, Y was an easy choice to make. And not to mention the minimalistic design gives it a futuristic look to model Y.
I also prefer the look of the Ioniq 5. It’s sad that this pretty much comes down to the reliability of competing public charging networks - but for many buyers the Tesla network is very compelling. And it works. Consistently!
I also chose the Model Y over the Ioniq 5 even though I prefered the Hyundais design. But efficiency, price (in my case a gov. grant that the Ioniq 5 didn't qualify for), tech and interior space made me chose the Tesla
Model Y is soooo ugly
@@julietaylor2685 it’s subjective
No dash board looks cheap and nasty
What is the charging time difference between these 2 from 0% to 80% for example Thanks
If you’re charging at their maximum speed allowed, about:
* 18min for Ioniq 5 (240kW est)
* 25min for Model Y RWD LFP (170kW est)
I’m looks at an EV MID WAY through 2023. I can get the Model Y for 57,788 (base) in Queensland. No Ioniq 5 available new. About 30k more for second hand one. Tech vs delivery vs range vs price. It’s a no brainer for the Tesla. FYI. Hyundai and Kia want you to service EV’ every 15,000 kms
Bloody hell Tom how do you keep up with replying to all these comments?! Props mate!
Tesla's fast chargers are open to anyone including Hyundai in europe though, so the charging plus for the tesla you make does not apply here
Tesla just looks like many other cars available today, nothing special. The Ioniq 5 however is stunning, looks like nothing else on the road. For that alone its the Ioniq 5 that would get my money.
I'm Tom Baker................................. This is Chasing Cars............................................................ Love ya work Tom.
Thanks Nick!
The centre console moves in the ionic 5 , you should have known that @chasing cars
I hope there is a different colour interior. I couldn't buy one with white seats.
I looked at tesla and yes the tech is top notch, however the build quality let's it down. Hyundai have been building cars for years so nail the build quality. Tesla are opening up their superchargers so the ioniq 5 is capable of the charge rate taking just 18 minutes to charge from 10% to 80%. V2L capability in the Hyundai is super cool. I went for the ioniq 5 and haven't looked back, even enjoying the admiring glances from tesla drivers
I'd get the Hyundai mostly due to the fact Tesla are still really hit or miss with their build quality.
That may have been an issue with US-made cars, but China-built cars are just fine. Even with the US cars, issues are minor (panel gaps etc - I know, I have one), but mechanically they are just fine, and you don't have to pay the Hyundai dealer tax to keep your warranty.
I think the Tesla wins just on efficiency. Efficiency will become a major consumer purchasing metric once consumers understand EVs better. The Hyundai may make up for it slightly with superior fast charging speed but there just aren’t that many ultra rapids in Australia. Even if there were the majority of charging will be at home and efficiency directly affects cost to run.
Real world tests show teslas will charge up quicker anyway due to their preconditioning and smaller pack. You will be on the road quicker in a Tesla. Not to mention being able to find a charger In the first place.