Should Religion Be Taught in Public Schools? | Dr. Safiyyah Ally
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2024
- Dr. Safiyyah Ally makes the case for religion to be included in the public school curriculum. She explains that while Canadian classrooms are becoming increasingly diverse, religious literacy is low. Whether religion is part of the curriculum or not, people learn about religion, but they often learn about it in uninformed and misleading ways. Ally says students should learn about religion to understand and connect, not for worship and devotion. She offers practical advice for how to include religion. There may be times when this leads to discussion of difficult and contentious issues, but she says, “we don’t shy away from debates about climate change and racism and vaccines because they’re messy. Why should we be afraid of talking about religion?”
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We should learn about people around us, not necessarily to agree but just to better understand. We share this world together... I think the message about the different ways religion is practiced and thought over now, in the past and in the future. When we don't think about these issues, someone else will fill that void for us - and not necessarily with the intention of shared understanding. I think Muslims as well as Non-muslims are woefully uninformed. Just because we are hopefully on the right path, doesn't mean we should be blind to the other paths people are on (how can we even introduce them to our path if we don't even know where they are?)
Totally agree!!!! The average American knows NOTHING about Muslims.
Such a courageous and inspiring speech! I believe the solution might be in those difficult conversations and challenging approach suggested here. I’d truly be excited to see what comes out this proposition were it to be adopted and implemented.
You explained this so well… I always felt that school and faith should be kept apart… but this makes perfect sense…
Religion has always been taught in British schools and is compulsory for the first year or two. But any kind of preaching or converting is not allowed. There is a difference between academic study and trying to convert.
So you study a bunch of different religions ??
@@KingAries85 Yes we study every major religion, and the idea of religion and God. But it's illegal for a teacher to try and push any religion on pupils. Although we were given a free travel bible each.
I agree. A comparative religion class without any hint of indoctrination would be a good idea for kids to be taught in order to get acquainted with the different beliefs across the planet.
Pluralism is divine
Excellent video!
So when I first clicked on the video I assumed you were going to talk about how God should be talked about in the classroom even if its not the same religion...which I dont agree with. But this was a lot better! I definitely think we should learn about other faiths and practices to better understand other people around us and to learn how to more accepting of those who are different. Its a wonderful idea
Wow, well said sister. This is a game changer. If this can be introduced, soon we have a better world. Free of hate or misunderstanding. Wish you luck and respect to you and team.
Religion is included as part of history already in most high school curriculums. I think that is sufficient at high school level. First of all religious texts if not taught properly can easily be construed as bigotry of people of other faiths. For minds that are still maturing, anything like that can be too much to handle. We’re already aware how easily HS students can fall into gangs and bullying. This religion study can just exaggerate things seriously.
In colleges, there are multiple courses dedicated to religious studies. That’s where they belong. Mature minds can handle that information and tolerate the seemingly bigoted statements.
Your wrong, if religious study is taught from elementary primary education then by the time kids grow up into adolescence, they will deal with it already in mature way. When they get to college, they will be even more mature
@@mahirrahman7 Everybody has their view. Mine is different than yours. Religion is not a bunch of facts but philosophy. So creating the curriculum at primary school level for such a mature subject would be a huge challenge. Reaching consensus on what should be included on behalf of each religion is extremely difficult. At best all religions as viewed from the Judeo-Christian view point will be included. I think that's more harm than good. But again, my opinion is one of the thousand opinions out there.
I thought about this topic few days ago, I agree with you 100%
Good explanation, thanks , learned something
I agree 100%! I wish I would have started learning more about religions when I was little. Shoot! I used to think Muslims worshiped the devil. 🤣 This is what happens when you're shielded from everything.
Well said. It's not about religious indoctrination but about religious literacy. People still think that religion and education can't go hand in hand because it will lead to indoctrination at schools while in reality can lead to critical literacy of the world itself we live in.
This is definitely a compelling approach. I think there will have to be changes to education to make this successful. We need more diverse teachers so things don't continue to get funnelled through just one perspective.
If you think 🤔 about it the white American did the same thing as prophet Muhammad and showed a people of a certain region who were idol worshipers and sprit worshippers to follow 1 God
MashaAllah amazing talk, whole heartedly agree, with the points you raise.
Such a courageous and inspiring speech!
You make a very compelling argue Dr. Ali.
You are perfectly right. Religion should be thought at school along with respect to diversity.
Indonesian muslim here. My country is not religious country though refused to be called secular 😁. Here religions taught in public schools, law dictates that school must provide teacher for every religion embraced by the students (now we have Islam, Catholic, Protestant, Hindu, Buddha, and Confusianism as common religion). It is common to see religion class attended by only one or two students as they are the minority in the school. As a muslim I know and read some Bible, Veda, Tripitaka and Dao De Jing, and likely the other way around. I don't say that I know much about other religions, but I can confidently say I know what is not them.
Then we have subject of citizenship, that teach us doctrine on how Indonesian religious people should behave as part of multi religions community.
We cannot afford not to have religions taught in public schools as we are combating intolerant teaching that came to this country in 90's.
0:17 actually it's getting less diverse (yes getting different backgrounds/religion but these people are homogeneous) most Americans/Canadians (white European) are diverse within themselves 🤦🏼♂️. I'm American and I'm part English, Russian, German, Italian, Spanish, French, Persian, more. Most Americans and Canadians (white European) are just like me and we are as well religiously diverse.
These new peoples are ethnically/culture homogeneous and religiously homogeneous.
So who is more diverse a group of white European who are ethically diverse within each person or a group of people from all over who are ethnically homogeneous?
In UK/Europe the Indigenous people native religion has been swept under the rug as well... It's not just the to Indigenous peoples of North and South America
No I don’t think so. Becoming a Muslim was the best path I ever become in front of. But the reason why I say no it’s up to the parents to teach their children because we have bias people in school. And one a person can’t teach someone something they don’t know anything about. It’s not about changing a child’s mind it’s more about some people are miss informed about different religions and someone can say the wrong thing now you have a child that is confused because they are being thought someone else’s views. And another reason is everyone do not think the same in their religion. Two people from the same religion can have two different views. I can go on but I don’t think it should be taught in school. It’s up to the parents to teach and understand the different religions they may face in this world and how to respond to it when it’s presented in front of them.
I have been trying to correlate this with Gender Identity. Many US states have been adding gender stuff to their elementary school curriculum. I still dont know whether or not these are good or bad things!?!?!
Most of them at least I believe are just tell me what ur pronouns are or whatever as long as we don’t teach religion as fact than sure
I understand completely what she is saying and have taken it upon my own spiritual journey to educate myself about the Quran Islamic culture and believes early on in my twenties. My question to Dr. Ally would the teachings of Christianity, Judaism, Hindi, i.e other religions to predominate Muslim Countries; Dubai, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afghanistan, allow the teachers to teach Muslim children about Christianity, Judaism? No is the answer. A woman in some of those countries are not allowed to leave the home without a chaparon, or even allowed to work, drive a car.
Great video Safiyyah
I once debated my parents on the topic of God in art. I cited the Lord's Prayer that Isa taught his disciples as he said "Our Father, who is art in heaven."
Imagine how many religions that a student would have to study.
School should teach not preach .... Great job Imdad Khan from Nakari Lakhimpur Assam India
I agree with you completely , Sister
Is it "knowing other religions" or "knowing other cultures"?
The question is - if you are promoting to include Religion in the school curriculum, will you also agree to include Atheism or Agnostism in the curriculum too? And also, Minorities cannot demand their religious holidays to be recognized by the Majority, because otherwise there could be HUNDREDS of other minorities who will demand to get the same treatment. It would be chaos.
Atheism and agnosticism arent religion
I think you didn't watch the video.
@@Astaqfirullah9
I watch the video, it's just 2.5 minutes long. But they keep deleting my responses to your posts.
Again, if you are a religious person (like a Muslim, for example), how would you feel being forced to attend an Atheism or Agnosticism class in school? If you are a Muslim parent, would you let your child attend such class? I am sure you will protest.
So the best way to practice equality, is to simply remove such Religion subject from the curriculum. You can have a special Voluntary class about Religion. It should not be mandatory.
@@TheEchoeman well said 👆👍
Atheism is already taught in schools. There is no God in curriculum example, Evolution, Big Bang THEORY. I understand your point but we as a society need to look at all parts of this discussion.
Our country's founders who were of different religious backgrounds themselves knew the best way to protect religious liberty was to keep the government out of religion. So they created the First Amendment to guarantee the separation of church and state. This fundamental freedom is a major reason why the U.S. has managed to avoid a lot of the religious conflicts that have torn so many other nations apart.
When I was in school I was the only one who turned up for the lesson alot of my friends said I didn't need it iam glad I didn't listen to them as iam a open minded person I don't mind what religion you are or what your sexaul orientation is if you are loving and caring and hopefully everyone will get along
Very good Safiya. I agree with you.
ياودود ياذا العرش المجيد يا فعّالاً لما تريد، أسالك بعزّك الذي لا يُرام وملكك الذي لا يُضام وبنورك الذي ملأ أركان عرشك أن تكفيني ما أهمّني من أمر الدّنيا والآخرة
I'm from the United States and I can say one thing. You know I think we should have people of different faith take a specific time in the class. I'm not saying you should preach your religion but I have to agree with her but we can teach it. In the sense that everybody will know about each individual religion and even if they don't have a religion at least everyone is aware about there's the religious belief, without bringing guilt or condemnation on no one. I was raised in Christianity but I also knew that if I wanted to learn about Islam. I had to asked someone. So I went to the resource and I enter into a mosque. And yes I got very kindly Arabic some of them didn't speak too much English. I didn't realize I walked into a mosque with most of them were either from Yemen, Pakistan, Egypt, Palestine thought there was one person there that knew a lot of English. So he took time to interpret what they were telling me in Arabic. And that time they were about to do Ramadan. And I asked him can I be part of it can I participate. Some of them looked at me and they say you know it's going to be hard for you
But the other Arab, he was so nice that he said no don't stop him. Let him see what we all about so I didn't know the prayers so they gave me a chair they put it in the back of the place they told me to sit down and I can observe. I remember because I kept going everyday it caught my attention the way that were praying together how some even were crying With Tears In Their Eyes giving themself to God. One day I was in my tears coming out of my eyes. Now you might ask I didn't understand the prayer they did in Arabic how can I not understand and yet tears were in my eyes I didn't understand what was happening to me.
But I know one of those days I just got next to one of them and even though I didn't know to pray like them. what I said in my English language. Please oh God receive me I know I am not one of them but please receive my heart and with tears in my eyes I said I Surrender my whole life to you.
When this day of Ramadan was over that was almost like the third week of Ramadan one of the brothers wanted to know. What did I say so I told him and tears began to flow out of his eyes so I said listen did I say something I didn't mean to make you cry.
And you should see what he told me that he said all these people are here and we all speak Arabic we come from culture not just a religion but for our country. And you don't realize that God has sent you here while he said Allah has seen you here. Because no one invited you came on your own and he was like I didn't know nobody nobody told me about it. . But you cane on your own. I didn't know nobody there it's just that one day I was standing across the street and I look at the mosque for 15 minutes and I decided to walk in
I know I wrote a lot here but you know something I begin to learn the culture the religion yes I heard some crazy stuff too but one of the brother told me don't listen to that we're not all like this so they were trying to help me. But can I tell you it was one of the greatest experience of my life that I will not forget and then let me to understand more about Islam. That does not mean that I criticize a religion that I came from. Do I truly believe that people in Christianity that love God yes I do believe it. Just like there Muslims that love God with all their heart. Thank you for letting me share with you
May allahu bless you
@@navasmnavasmnavasmnavasm8823 thank you so much
@@Magic818100 Mario very very thanks
Good morning This is a great place to start as all children have education from an early age. Each child is different. We are all born into different families and many religious background. We need to learn to respect
other groups of people. At a young age to learn the basic idea of religion and how many there are in this our world.
I cry for humanity and humanity of this life now is so confusing. And our children, what is the future ?????
Do we live in a civilized world ? Our world is being destroyed , the people, the animals, the trees.
Here in Canada I feel a great shame, the world is being destroyed by MAN. One group against another.
The native children from the past, the women and the men who were here before anybody else. We are just
visitors and we must learn to respect our fellow human being no matter where they come from, what language they speak and the clothes that they wear. We must share this world as this planet is being destroyed by Man. I remember watching your programs years ago and was introduced to Islam some years later. I know some history of the people from EIRE where in England many Irish people came, my mother was one of these people to make a new life. I met some friends of her and they told me that they would never set foot in a R.C. church because of the atrocities that the church did . In the 1950's.
We must have peace. Is our world civilized ????? M. Taha/McNeill
In Malaysia they teach Islam at school.
"Should Religion Be Taught in Public Schools? |"
Only if it is an optional course and only if the students are taught about every religion and are told that every religion is equally valid.
Best idea as long as they are under strict rules of being watched so extremism is not being thought... I think best idea ..
Also it can fall into criticism also and it is good for that reason also, but Koran should be divided into sections and sections should develope specific specialists who can only teach things based on the very subject like " chapter of women " or sura Yousef"
As well topics likes relgion is a choice ? But if some one claims they can understand whole Koran and teach it is a bit too much and it can lack quality .. and hadeeds should be band unless it is fitted with Koran
Atheism should Also be taught in schools. We don't need religious bias or indoctrination being taught to children as happens in Muslim and Christian nation's.
No it should not be taught in elementary schools. Philosophy should be taught at certain levels throughout one's academic life but no specific religion should be preferenced nor should religion on a whole be taught as true.
But I thought this already exists. Maybe in some other countries, I don't know.
cant be explained more simply
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Teaching the basic belief systems of the main religions should be a part of the public school curriculum. The problem is that some teachers only want to promulgate and indoctrinate one religion and that becomes a problem .........
Who's religion should be taught? and why not start in Arabic countries, speaking about being tolerant before trying to change other people's cultures? because yes religion has everything to do with culture. And the newcomers have to adapt not the contrary.
Here in the US, you can teach the Bible as literature or history. I have no problem if they want to teach the Quran as history or literature .
Let's stick with secular education. Parents can instill religious values in their children at home and/or at the mosque or church if they choose. Not only are most public school teachers ignorant or incompetent to discuss various religions in an unbiased fashion but where would it end? Would the public school educational system have to acquiesce to every religion wanting to celebrate their own religious holiday or read in-class from their own holy book(s)? I think your suggestion is a recipe for disaster rather than an opportunity for mutual religious understanding. Sadly, many high school students can barely read or write competently. Do teachers really have time for include religion in the curriculum. Safiyyah, I think your heart is right and I share those ideals but, IMHO, implementation is highly impractical. My two bits worth!
Always thought the purpose of education is to learn ABOUT things. Should studying the history of the Third Reich be barred since it might turn the kids into Nazis ? The one danger I see is that the curriculum might be devised by people with little or no understanding, or have their own biases, things will get garbled, etc.
U r reading from screen.
I'm Mohammad Mahdi and I live in Iran. I used to be a Muslim. A person who mullahs could control his thoughts easily through faith. They forced us to pass more than 20 religious books in Iran's schools. and at least 5 religious books in university. I won't let this happen to my children. I won't let them brainwash my children. We will throw religion out of schools . I love Flying Spaghetti Monster.
No matter how you put it,, learning about religion in academic settings should be 100% optional.
A summary of why different religions and beliefs/faiths should be respected by all, can be explaind to studends without burderning them with an extra course workload. You learn about major religions and what next? Not necessary in my opinion.
Who said children don't learn religion at school in Canada? Just not the conventional ones. The religious curriculum became all about wokeism from JK.
Excellent project. Christianity dominates the viewpoints throughout the world on everything. The calendar is one good example. الحمدلله
I'm not religious and I agree religion should be taught at public schools.
More or less what repeating what Safiyyah (sounds like my daughter's name, Sofia) said, religious studies or literacy is not the same as proselytism.
It would be facts about several religions and help to exist more tolerance. That is coherent with a secular society.
People of different religions and without a religious affiliation might have disagreements and discuss (inappropriate places and times) between themselves for fun, learn from others, try to change minds, etc. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't respect others and learn about other cultures.
Unfortunately in some places, Muslims are viewed as intolerant of people who don't care about other people. Though it might be true in some cases, those kinds of people exist in several (ex: Christians and atheists - Muslims are persecuted by Christians in Central Africa), and this channel and the beautiful Ally family show those generalizations are false.
Also, Easter and Christmas are pagan holidays not Christian.
Depends on the religion. Thuggee, would, I suggest, be unsuitable for inclusion...
No
I agree, religious awareness, religious identities , tolerance should be taught.. I am against teaching religion in the school in the sense that you open a quran or a bible and start preaching verses, when you subject kids to that from a young age, you are indoctrinating them and depriving them of critical thinking abilities to decide for themselves what is right and wrong
Yes, children should be exposed to religions...only if teachers truly understand to distinguish between teaching and preaching.
I agree i read in a hindhu school which is run by RSS( A hindhu organization)
2:58 Christianity is a "Eastern Religion"
Which type of individual is going to give justice to this class, as every individual might be following one religion then surely his balance of justice for all religion to teach them equally is next to impossible.ideally we should teach student but in reality instead of teaching ,preaching will flourish which results in more chaos.
Religion has always been taught in British schools. But any kind of preaching or converting is not allowed.
So in Saudi Arabia the government needs to bend over for the minority Christians and teach Christianty in their schools?
Science flies you onto the moon, religion flies you into buildings
No religion shouldn’t be taught at schools
no and no and no again.
Nope, nope, nope and nope!! All ideologies need to be kept out of Government. Do or say what you want in your own private home or community. Pushing any agenda by the Government is a bad idea, that includes, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Communist, abortion OR LGBTQ!
Yea unless you live in America like me then you sit in 1 class with a Jew Muslim Christian Islam and Hindu so what are you going to teach ? Public schools should teach the fallacy of all religions
Of course not. Evil fairy tales don't belong in schools.
It is really sad how people have deviated from God.
Well Canada is over 70% Christian so over 70% of the time it has to be about Christianity.
The US is a bit higher close to 85%