How To Connect Your EBN Dry Cell With Only Two Wires
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- čas přidán 8. 10. 2008
- This is an easy way to set up your EBN HHO dry cell for installation with a minimum amount of wires. Thanks to higherpowerdh2o for the inspiration of the design.
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That is a great idea for installation of the wires! I really like the whole EBN setup👍🏻👍🏻
The purpose of neutral plates is to lower the voltage between the + and - plates. The optimum voltage between consecutive plates is 2 - 2.2 volts. Anything more than that and you are wasting power and eventually boiling the water. Each time you add a neutral plate you are adding resistance to current lowering the voltage between plate gaps. I run 5 neutrals and my cells never overheat as long as I don't overdrive them with too many amps.
Where i can buy an HHO kit?
Great video's Mike ! I watched them all ,I am new to HHO but your video's have great infomation .Bye far the best HHO video's I have seen on the internet ! Thanks !!!
simple and looks like it should work ... great idea ...
actually, the design you speak of that higherpower is offering was one of our prototype designs that we have so far decided not to market ... it seemed most of our clients prefered the ease of being able to reconfigure on the fly ...
in a way, your solution offers the best of both worlds ... think I will discuss this with our our R&D guys ...
thanks for a great contribution ... hope others will take advantage of this ...
You can cover it with plastic to prevent an accidental short. It won't hurt to touch it but if a piece of metal contacted both sides it would short out. I take a piece of clear hose and cut it down the middle and wrap it around the bolt for protection.
Quite an informative video. I just got in a dry cell kit and was wondering what to do with two hot leads and 3 negative leads. This has helped clear it up for me. I voted thumbs up! Thanks for a great video.
FINALLY!!! Someone that actually knows how to solder properly
+Dave S (Davenia419) lol who are you ? My OCD solder
+Jamie Jones lol no I've just seen a lot of videos that have soldering at some point in them and I see so many people who are not heating the electrical wire but just melt the soldering wire over top of everything which is just cold soldering and barely holding anything together. It's just nice to see someone on here that can actually do it properly for once.
Dave S NV
Nicely done - I like things neat and your method is nice and neat.
thank you my dear freind for so much valuable information with that much kind devotion i am very much impressed with you once again thanks alot brother . i am from Pakistan.
Excellent!
Great conversion/solution for an common problem. Great job!
Steve
InstallGuys
Thank you for a great idea ,makes life little bit easier,and this is a neat solution for connecting it ,yet we need more surface area touching the plates from those slide in connectors for lesser heat built up on high amps draw .
Again nice and neat design
You can either connect the wires with paddle connectors that slide over tabs on the plates, or you have a tab on the plate with a hole that you run a bolt through and tighten with a nut on the other side. Neutral plates are not connected to any wire.
i built an earlyer dry cell with both connections on the outside of the plates..but was a pain to build. so i went with the tabbed design i like your idea i will try it. on my dry cells
Great Video. Thanks
this is a great video thanks for taking the time to do this for Us, have a great day, from chihauhua mexico...
great presentation---thank you for using a steady tripod! most of the HHO presenters don't have the decency to use a tripod and workd table to present their ideas. one ends up with a headache at the end of the presentation.
Excellent Demo +++++
excellent idea! another benefit is that one lead cannot pop accidentally out and touch a neutral or opposite polarity plate...
GREAT JOB
I am just getting into this, and i want to see how good they do.
on wet cells i have noticed that they get covered and dont work as well .now this may seem gross .but i am not trying to be ....urine cleans the plates .and it is an electrolite .just a thought to consider.it works well ..I really enjoyed your channel thank you for all the great info .
Nice thought... however I’m wondering if there is a amperage issue... as you use pre-configured items there may be an amp limiting event. The best way I can think of to prove it is not an issue is to setup both and test..... as you know electrical current will take the shortest path, not always the best or intended path.... heat may also be an issue... i would use a thermal camera or laser thermometer on each joint... i like how clean it looks but not sure it’s the best for amperage flow... please let me know as you go further into the design changes.. thanks again for all your efforts
For a gas grill you would need a lot of steel. I would say a 8" x 8" - 59 plate cell run off of 110 AC converted to DC with a bridge rectifier. Then you would need to design a burner with many small holes.
well ellaborated. Thank you
YOU ARE CHEF HELLO FROM GREECE AND THANKS YOU
@hhoconnection No problems. Been playing with HHO for a couple of years. Your unit is great for the guy who has lots of money and fully understands everything, BUT mine is best for the beginer with no money. This is the unit that will get everybody into HHO, just because of the simplicity. Once they get thier feet wet they will be getting into the more complicated units. If the bottle or bolt does wear out, $5-5min replacement. Heat and voltage are controled by using less baking soda or MSG.
That's because making it work in an engine is very tricky. While some have had success, others have not. I personally think HHO is a fantastic fuel and we need to get more people involved to try and figure out the best uses for this amazing gas. The EBN cell was designed to be a tool for experimenters not a plug and play system for an automobile.
So have to wonder what voltage he is running here. The # of plates between pos and neg is not consistent from one side of the cell to another.
Thanks for the great videos
Great Video !
But I can't get to your Website !
All right, its a great job... Could you tell me please, how many plates it has?
@wcemichael I checked out your super simple hho cell. You really need to incorporate some kind of neutral plates. I'm sure that unit gets very hot, not to mention a lot of rust from the 304 stainless. Not trying to beat you up, just the facts.
instead of using cheap yellow eyelettes I would consider something more robust and sturdy. like maybe 2 -4 guage wire with solder on copper ends. consider how much load that little yellow guy is trying to pass through. its nice to see you have a bus bar goin on and all that but for the long term this may build up resistance/ heat which isn't good for any electrical circuit and in the end may have an affect on your circuit protection device ( fuse/ circuit breaker ) if you have one, which might I add would be very important if you are above 10 amps.
Why do you have "neutral" plates in between?
nice..i like it a lot
Anyone know why there are just old videos of HHO projects? CZcams must be blocking them because I know people are still working on these like I am!
thanks for you
amazing IDea than you alot
You post detailed & well explained videos.
But I Have watched The Neutral Plate Explanation Video, It still didn't clearly explain how to make the connection. Since The Power will be draw from the Battery (With The Traditional + & - Terminals). How does a Rookie Like Me know how to safely make these connections?. Seeing that there are more than (2) connections You made there (On The Cell), can You please explain how the 2 wires coming from the battery should connect with the cell?
Thanks
Phigo.
@Raymondo873 Try adding a pump to your bubbler line. It will keep the water flowing, and not allow it to freeze. If you're going to do this while your system is off, be sure to keep the battery charger on!
thank you dear internet, dont let them to overtake this liberating ideas!
I just want to know which material you have used to bind the plates?
they do make gold plated connectors. for better corrosion resistance giving you better voltage and current flow. if this unit is in a corrosive environment.
Hi there, I love your videos but in this one I am getting a little confused. Presenting the cell you said that it had 3 negative and 2 positive plates and then further on you say that there are 3 positive and on 2 negative connections. Is it an error or does it not matter how many there are of the one or the other?
Thanks in advance
Next time use your lighter to heat a little bit the plastic on the connectors, just to soften it a bit. If it won't fall by itself after heating and dilating, it will come off if pulled with a set of tweezers of by raw finger power :)
I had, at times, hundred of connections where I had to crimp and solder the wires in these boot-connectors and heating them made my work a lot easier.
@enticed2zeitgeist Please look at my comment above about using neutral plates. If you still don't understand do some research, it's all about keeping voltage between any two plates below 2.2 volts!
question ,what about the long part of metal screw that is uncover with plastic or gummy if something touch on it will that be good ? excuse my english
Quick question Novice at alternative energies but very interested. Would calculating the proper amperage omit any water vapors that would result in internal rust(cylinders, valves etc.)? Or is engine modification always necessary?
@hhoconnection Can you give a schematic of the plate layout ie which are + and - and which ones are neutral. thx, good vid too
In the beginning of the video I just mis-spoke. I did finally say that I hook up three negatives and two positives.
Hi Mike, how to tweak the Air Fuel Ratio Sensor w/HHO, please could you kindly tell me?
could you hook a positive and a negative to each and every plate?
that looks great but i hope you used a larger gauge wire than the one it came with reason lets just day you had three 6 gauge on one side those three wires can handle a lot more amps than one 6 gauge wire
I live in the Los Angeles area and it does not freeze here.
Would it be better to use a different metal for the bolts instead of brass so that it conducts more? Or does it really matter?
Hi, what sort of setup would you recommend for a 2849 ccm gasoline car?
Once I get my car finished, I think I will maybe purchase a setup.
I'm thinking of going as low as 0,4 every 10 KM, you think that's possible?
I managed to get my Volvo 240 with a 2316 ccm engine to use only 0,75 every 10 KM with gasoline alone, so I think it's possible.
The setup will be put in my very rare Volvo 265 (wagon) coupled to the original, modular V6 PRV Engine, also found in DMC-12 DeLorean.
It has a turbo too.
What kind of voltage would be running there? Seems like few neutral plates, most people use 12v
@hhoconnection there begins !
i see you have 16 neutral plates, 3 negative and 2 positive on this model.
i am making a 9 plate model and i'm wondering how many positive and negative and neutral i should have. also the size of my cell which will be 8" x 8", will this be big enough to power a 3.3 litre engine with my petrol as a suppliment
Yes they can be. If yo ulook at the Punch slimline cells they have 7 plates, 5 neutral plates in the middle with the positive and negative plates on the outside. You just need to be careful not to touch both sides at once with a piece of metal.
bom trabalho amigo, eu sou brasileiro
good work my friends, i am brazilian
valmir faria de che
thak you
what are the outer housing plates made of?
Can it be used for NaOH synthesis?
Is that true that soda or salt can damage the pistons,since soda eats the steel?
So for these seiries style setups,which seem the easiest to build,im seeing 5 nutrals between a possitive and negitive.is this concreate or can additional nutrals help?understanding we want 1.68 to 2.0 volts between plates.series tend to differ from my single cell modles i tinker with.and not sure how this set up affects volt drop between plates
I went to your website, but since I live in Northern Ireland (UK) and we work off 240 Volt AC I`m not sure if any of your products are compatible with this. Do you do a 240 AC range?
As I see it, there are like four plaques not attached either to + nor -. What role do they play?
Good
Hello, are you still using HHO in your car? Thanks for sharing ;-)
Hi Mike it's 2021 now, how has the HHO taken off? i'm sure it works for the carburetor unit but how does it work for injection cars, is the EFIE a must? any recommendation?
Ok, So The End Plats Can Be used as the Terminals Then?
What I the pattern on your plates as positive neutral negative ?
No, do a search for my video called HHO neutral plates explained.
mui bien
What is the purpose of the neutral plates?
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how do you find out the volume of hho you produce.? and how do you find out how much is needed , say for a 6.0 L engine??
I note you have 4 Nuetrals in each series?
ampere requirement for that hho generator sir?
please sent the price for one EBN 8x8 dry cell with 21 plates. Thanks alot Wagner
How many amps is it with 12 volt battery voltage?
do you have a digital template for the plates? if u do can you pleas send me a link to it
@enticed2zeitgeist thermal runaway is what occurs if you run high current. lowering the voltage using plates allows for a more stable running of the cell. As the water temp increases so does conductivity which is good but eventually you will start to pull more amps then your 12v system (typically) can actually drive, or you will melt inadequate power and ground wires, or you boil the water, whcih is counter productive. If you are creating heat you are wasting electrical energy.
I like your method! But, with more POS plates than NEG, won't you produce more Oxy than Hydrogen?
what's the volts between each plate?
I can't post links here but look for my video called "HHO Neutral Plates Explained".
uma duvida eu tenho um alfa romeu 1986 é possivel istala uma celula?
Is that 2 positive and 3 negative on a 20cell?
This cell has 21 plates and has 4 neutral plates between each positive and negative plate.
hilo sir i am from Philippines... can i use this kind of hho assembly for a gas stove?? how to assemble it and what would be a mixture needed to combust water into hho gas??
let me know how your feedback on this idea goes . if enough people like this idea, I might could talk the manufacturing guys into giving us a little more plastic on the top of the end plates . maybe make it possible as an option to run a bolt all the way through from front to back .
if we thought our customer might pay for the additional hardware, we might even be convinced to include the pieces you suggest in the kit .
but we need to know if this is what our customer wants us to do .
@hhoconnection Why would you want to lower voltage? Don't you want to run high voltage and amps through the water to break apart as much water as possible? I can't grasp why people use these neutral plates. It just doesn't make sense to me. Can you possibly explain it further?
@jeffddow Check out my video on neutral plates. I can't put a link here or I would.
Hi,how about the rest of the cells ,its not connected?are they neutrals?
Brass is a much better electrical conductor than steel .It's copper-based...copper being the most favored choice for electrical wiring. And like Jay Rydre said, it doesn't rust.
what went wrong bought a 11 plate cell hooked it up in 2013 hyudia 4.1 . now i need a new engine throdel body alu.just pived butterfly too enjectors gone. used potassium hydroxide for cat. 1 teas. per 2 quarts help
how you keep your set up in your car truck from frezzing in the winter?
Timothy Griffey plus KHO
GOOD QESTİON ...
He moves to Florida in winter
I like the mess better!
How many plate in this ebn dry cell
I actually played it back, for verification, after the fact. I couldn't edit or delete my question, sorry.
Here's a better question:
Have you tried raising your gas vent or reducing your electrolyte level to keep it contained within the Cell? This would eliminate the necessity of a return from the bubbler/reservoir, since the gas would be much drier. Just my guess. I haven't actually attempted any experiments yet.