HHO Installation Frequently Asked Questions
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- čas přidán 30. 11. 2011
- I get asked the same questions over and over so I decided to make a video to answer some of them. Here are the different questions I will answer.
1. How much HHO do I need to put in my engine
2. What is an EFIE and a Map/Maf Sensor Controller?
3. What is a PWM?
4. Does the VOLO chip work?
5. What kind of mileage gains can I expect?
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Hey Mike, I want to thank you for your videos I have learned a lot from you!!
Great video. Extremely professional and helpful. Thank you very much for making this video. You answered questions I've had for a long time. And mentioning the two forums for HHO research is extremely helpful. Thank you very much for making this video. I greatly appreciate it.
Great Video Mike! Vary informative and well thought out. I'm sure it will help a lot of people.
Mike, long time no see! How are you? I'm still very active in the HHO arena. Just now found this 2011 video and loved it :)
Thanks for posting it. I came here to learn more about how the PWM works and you have given me better understanding of the subject and the differences between the types of PWM - thanks!
Sounds great, you should make a video and share it with the rest of the world!
@welder08arek You add enough to get the amount of amp draw you require. Maximum concentration is 28% by weight or about 1lb in 1 gallon. I use about 10 tbsp/liter.
Hey man your videos are super informative and I'm really learning a lot!
I'm glad I subscribed to your channel, keep it up brother :)
hello mike, i just want congratulate you for your job, it is really helpfull for people like me that pretend to start a business with new energy,clean and safe. god bless you
Hello Mike. Thanks for your videos, they have been very informative. I have one question though: If I lower the water temperature before it goes into the cell, will the lower temperatures help the cell to operate at peak performance at more stable conditions?
hi,
Could you have a special guest to show how to install a hho kit on both an efi system and old-school carburettor car as this would help a lot with your channel as well as promote HHO on a more professional level as your channel seems to be one of the only that looks quite professional and well laid out as well as informative.
Excellent information, thanks!
Don't worry about frequency, it won't make any difference. Just keep mixing your electrolyte stronger until you can get your desired amp draw cold. Set your PWM to that desired amp draw and let the current limiting feature keep it at the setting you want. The PWM will pulse to keep the amps draw the same. The cell will still heat up but not as fast.
Thanks for the info mike. You answered a lot of questions. Can you tell me what the diff is between a dry cell and a wet cell.
you are great mike , thank you
Thanks Mike for an informative vid
@hhoconnection Hey no "oops" required! -- you did a superior job and your videos are excellent. No hype or baloney, just straight stuff. I sincerely appreciate the time you take to put these together. People who have never done a video don't understand what goes into it and nobody is forcing you to share your experience and expertise. Thank you.
So, Have you ever tried NNCE - non caustic plant based electrolyte?
mike you r amazing person keep up the good work love all your vids
Mike
You've made the video about how to calculate the size (relative displacements of the amount of gasoline engine carburetor) of dry cell Grato
Antonio
22/11/2013
I have never used a dryer so I don't know how well they work but I know others that use them exclusively. I would say use either a dryer or a bubbler or both. You have your terminology mixed up, there are reservoirs, bubblers (or scrubber, same thing) with a flashport on top, and finally flashback arrestors. Three separate things.
TNKS..I AM OLD MECHANIC ..BUT BEIGINNER IN HHO ..NOW I DID SAW LOT A VIDEOS ....I LET KNOW LATER MY RESULTS
Watts are watts, it doesn't matter. The only thing to consider is if you increase the voltage (like 36v instead of 12v) then you will need to increase the number of neutral plates between each + and - plates. So instead of using 5 neutrals for a 12v setup you would use 15 neutrals for a 36v setup.
thank you much, for giving
Good video!
I'm thinking of making my car run entirely on HHO on demand, mainly because I want to save money, but also because it's environmental friendly (theoretically).
What I want to know is if you really need to have some kind of electrolyte in it?
I know the HHO should reappear as water after combustion, is it then possible to reuse it all over again?
I will mainly be using the five piston engine ranging from 1,9 to 2,5 ccm, a typical Audi engine. anything I need to think of before that?
hello
thanks your videos and i still need asking few questions
do i really need using hho dryer and check valve ?do i need both bubbler reservoir and SCRUBBER FLASHBACK ARRESTOR?
thanks
thank you for your reply mike....but i wish to know if can PURE hho be pumped in CI or SI engine without any modification??....if yes then will it affect the engines life??....thank you
Hi Mike, another question. I noticed that there are 2 pipe going into the dry cell and a t piece connecting the tubing. Could you explain this in a video or where could I get a diagram on the water in and gas out to bubbler and flashback arrestor. Thanks Darren
great info thanks
It's easy to calculate air flow through the engine:
Running RPM * displacement = volume of air passes through the engine.
Ex, 0.25litre * 6000 rpm = 1500 litres per minute of air flowing through the engine.
If you had an electrolyzer making 1/4 liter of H2 and O per minute, it would be creating 1/6000th of the gases taken in by the engine.
hello mike thanks for all you help
i just installed my 9 plates dry cell(5x5x2) and hooked up with a ccpwm which connected to the fuel pump relay,so that it can turns on off by ignition. i am so confused how much shold i dail the frequency and duty cycle ?for my cell to produce 1.5 l for my 3.5l engine
thanks
Mike I managed to get 2 aluminium drinking bottles and have a 6 Bar pressure relief valve. Is 6 Bar too high? What pressure do your flash ports blow at?
hello great videos you have. quick question... i have a 1800w solar array is hydrogen produced from watts or amps? meaning would i be better to make a low resistance electrolyte and run 36v dc 50 amps so panels parallel or higher resistance electrolyte 350v dc 5amp panels in series or is it irrelevant because both configurations are 1800w? does the resistance of the generator even matter because the current will be limited by what is being generated by the sun anyway. Thank you very much
What if you make a loop connection so that the engine produces just about enough voltage to keep it running and regular fuel with hydrogen when accelerating?
I think that is the best solution, and would make a great impact bellow the freezing point if you're stuck in the middle of nowhere.
Hydrogen works better as a catalyst to regular fuel, so it might be possible with some modifications, but I guess most people want to keep it simple...
Been thinking about that for some time, what you think?
God bless you ..
The cell behind me was a double cell, in other words two cells side by side with one front plate. The T is just splitting the water in and water out between the two cells.
thank you
Hi Mike.Would you tell me something about Using HHO in the winter time?
Does hot water let the reaction happen easier? (with less electric?)
I can't post a link here, but look for my video called "How To Calculate Maximum Amps For a HHO Dry Cell".
is there any book to study about HHO Dry cell and its design methodology
I'm looking to design an efficient and if possible low maintenance hho system for installation into a vehicle. In your experience what material would be best used instead of stainless steel my research has brought these three to my attention as being both efficient and long lasting.
Platinum plated copper $40.00@12"x12"x.03"
Graphite $9.00@9"x9"x.15"
Titanium. $70.00@12"x12"x.03"
what would you choose?
ok I know you said you are not a mechanic and I understand that, but I was hoping you might have the answer to my question. ok so I installed 2 31 cells in my s-10 i do get better gas millage but I want more and I have also been seeing people are hermetically vaporizing there gasoline to get way better M.P.G I personally haven't tried this and was hoping you have and if so have you mixed it with the hho? or would you mix it?
great videoooooo
@mrgalleria Not soon enough Bill, thanks!
hey mike,
Is it possible to run the engine on pure HHO gas?...And if Yes then why is it not used commercially??...if i wish to go for commercial is there a scope??
What sort of amount of electrolyte is used up per hour on a constant 1l per minute burn?
Only if you don't remove or "scrub" out the electrolyte particles from the HHO gas by using a bubbler or a dryer. The electrolyte particles will corrode anything made out of Aluminum.
I really want to understand this so I need lots of help. My friend showed me his setup and it seems really cool. You said 1/2 L. per min. for every L. that your vehicle runs off of. If a car runs 5 L. for every 4 cycles and the car runs at 750 rpms, that would be 5 x 750 = 3,750 Lpm. If it requires that 1/2 L. x 5 = 2.5 Lpm. Divide the two to get the ratio of the two: 3,750 / 2.5 = 1,500:1. How much fuel can I save with this recommended setup?
would a hho cell be easier to install in a older cars than newer cars
To all of you out there with questions on wat electrolyte to use...baking soda is great about a teaspoon or just a little more per qt of water works great
please tell me what size between plates
Hello sir mike, I am wondering if aluminum plates in hho generator would be alright to be used for my bike.
Thanks a lot
on my experienced, aluminum plates not efficient . Electrolyte (either KOH or NaOH) will eat up... stainless steel #18 or 20 is best for any hho dry cell.
sir, for a motorcycle 250cc what is the required of air flow?
Dear Sir,
I am Raviteja from india,i have a opel corsa 1.4gsi indian model 1400cc 4 cylinder.can you please suggest me the specifications for hho generator..
i have understood the construction but i have confusion about size and capacity of the generator.(Document for constuction).
And please explain briefly how the mileage will increase by hho.
Is there any changes need to done in engine after hho assembling.
Thank you.
I can't give you any kind of exact amount but if there is no steam then hardly any at all. You could run a small reservoir all day and maybe see the level go down by an inch or so. Then just top it off with straight distilled water.
show us it in your car?.....cool stuff man.
Jaki najlepiej zrobic generator hho do auta benzyna 1.6 ? Jaki uklad blach ile amper max?
hii
Is the HHO gas mess up the engine?
thanks Ori
i care to build hhc dry cell 4 to 6 cylinder piston let me know how much would it cost so i can make order for that ,
1/16" spacing between plates.
so could you just run your car without any gasoline and just swap it for the tho convertor???? if you did could you runa 6litre v8 that has a HHo displacement of 7litres, and if you could would it work for highway driving, or do you just have to make more amperage
Thanx alot mike :) good video again! If i order from US for more than 40-50$ i must pay duty-and its crazy-it doubles the prize. i live in a TAX + duty + fees country. so im really sory i cant support by $. But ill share later. thanx for the knowledge, its helpfull.
I have heard that in 2003 a tech team tried out by injection but the thing that injects into the cylinder doesnt last, and next if injected in the the intake a problem of hot spots in the cylinder occours because ..
on my 2007 dodge 6.7 deseil l got 12 to 15 miles I put a hho on it and at 60 Iwill get 25 and at 70 Iget 19 is my cell to small or what u think
if i am using 1.5 liters of tap water how much electrolyte do i need to use? Im using salt. Thanks
What do you mean when you say "...guys with tiny little cells trying to squeeze 20 or 30 amps out of them." This is confusing to me, since amperage is a measurement of electricity and you're generating hydrogen (not electricity). Can you please explain what you mean? Thank you for all your great videos!!
I have no idea at what pressure they blow sorry, I just know they work. As for Aluminum, don't use Aluminum in any part of your HHO project. Electrolyte (either KOH or NaOH) will eat up Aluminum in a hurry. Even the little bit that will get carried over from your reservoir. If you don't believe me, mix up a small batch of electrolyte and drop a piece of aluminum into it. The reaction will make a lot of straight Hydrogen but the aluminum will get eaten up quickly.
can we connect the hho gas from the bubbler to the gas intake where the gas line is feed from the gasoline tank? Just take the gasoline out and connect the hho line to that intake instead. Please let me know. Thanks for your help
life journey,
you'll never connect hho fr.gas intake ..it will not works .otherwise maynex do his experimental, he disconnect hose fr fuel pump and connect his invention h2 flex hydrogen and it works 100% run in water
Good video, you covered some good points, all correctly, IMHO. Good job.
I just discovered the VOLO chip this week.
Have you ever tried NNCE - non caustic plant based electrolyte?
I believe MAP is actually "Manifold Air Pressure". Mass Air Flow (MAF) and Manifold Air Pressure (MAP).
HI,,IM A NOOB ON THIS MATTER BUT WERY INTERESTED. i saw a clip and some readings and have the conklusion that 3volts and 50amps per cell should be sufficient to make a car driveable on gas only,,now im a noob and would be happy if you could help me with the size and how to build one..was thinking of using it on a 2,8 crd diesel chrysler
So it is not a good idea to produce a lot of Hydrogen unless we modify the car construction?
You're going to want to build the engine for high heat tolerance. Since these systems tend to burn at different temperatures than a regular unleaded or diesel engines, using stainless steal, hardened blocks, forged pistons, etc; will definitely be beneficial.
6:00, MAP stands for Manifold Air Pressure, not Mass Air Pressure.
yes but a car overall efficiency, because of friction, is only about 30% the rest is heat
i want to build a cell with 25 plates at 12V so 6 x 4 cells who much amps do I need
hi,
as far as i know in 6x4 dry cell 18 amp. is efficient...
@kaczka81 In what way, I'm just a guy in my garage.
can u send me HHO design for 70CC gasonline engine....??
What is KOH? And why nit baking soda.
Hi, what do you think of these systems and there 2.5LPM claim on such little amps (1.5)
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PLEASE DON'T STORE THE HHO! That is death just waiting to happen.
I have a question about HHO production that nobody will answer. Does the process of using stainless steel to produce HHO create hexavalent chromium ???????
DON'T USE SALT! One of the bi-products when using salt is Chlorine gas. Only use Potassium Hydroxide or Sodium Hydroxide. The amount you use depends on how many amps you want to draw. The more electrolyte you use the more amps you will draw.
It is possible but not reasonable. It requires too much power to make enough HHO to run the engine.
Volo did NOT work for me! (I bought the HHO version) 06 Dodge 1500 with a 4.7 V-8 . My dry cell was producing 2 lts. a min and saw NO fuel mileage improvment. NONE. Not Happy! Threw a lot of money at the project and got nothing in return. Now I can not seem to keep the system together. It keeps springing leaks. Mostly on the reservoir. I am done. I don't even turn it on anymore.
@tattoostudio666 No, but it sure looks like plain old KOH to me.
@HHOinfo Sour grapes from another person who could not get it to work so therefore it can't possibly work for anyone else, no matter what. This is exactly why I tell people not to spend a dime on HHO equipment unless they are willing to do the research and are willing to tune their engine for it, and even then there are no guarantees. Some people just like the challenge. I'll post your comment, but please go troll somewhere else.
I have no idea how much air flow, like I say in the video, I'm not a mechanic. If you are asking about how much HHO then I would estimate 1/4 lpm.
i think he means a tiny tiny tiny dry cell generator overheating and it will produce the amount u want but the generator will break i think thats wat he means
Definately easier in to install vehicles 96 and b 4 ...no commputers or sensors to deal with on most of them : )
@prayfortruejustice Oops! Like I said, I'm not a mechanic. Thanks.
Too long to type here, I'll PM you.
how can i make my car to run 100% on water only
I don't know and neither does anyone else at this point.
as of now there"s a man who did run in 100% water but not hho fr. ghana africa ...maynex
EEEEEEGH! (buzzer sound) You are incorrect there Mr. Wizard. Baking Soda is NaHCO3 or Sodium Bicarbonate. NaOH is Sodium Hydroxide.
No, at this point HHO is just meant to be a fuel supplement, not a replacement.
Forget about running an engine on HHO alone with current technology. This is for fuel supplementation only. Running an engine on HHO alone is WAY over my head!
I don't know where you got that information but I have used NaOH for years now with no issues whatsoever. Sorry, but I disagree.
And the reason form this is that there is no net gain.
When WATER VAPOR is heated up to proximately 700 C, it will decompose to H2 and O. Temperature inside the combustion chamber goes over 1000 C, so more than enough to decompose WATER VAPOR. Simply by sending correct amount of WATER VAPOR into the chambers, it is possible to generate big amounts of HHO without using any HHO generator. I appreciate what you guys do, but I think HHO generators came to market in order to misdirect people and suppress the powers and abilities of WATER VAPOR...
Hi all,
Please very much if it were possible - English subtitles. Not everyone understood everything in the speech.
Many thanks in advance.
Michal Kubik
Slovakia - Europe.
PWM KZX1250 Can you comment on this PWM. Thanks
The only real time devices that I know of are very expensive. Google Alicat mass flow meters. Don't trust the flow meters with the little ball that floats, they are not accurate.
NO, NEVER USE BAKING SODA! Only use KOH or NaOH.
Mixing hydrogen with gasoline or any other fuel is a waste of time. Hydrogen and gasoline ignite at a different rate. The only way to use HHO in a combustion engine is to eliminate the gasoline completely. The oxygen is what you want if you are mixing with gasoline. The oxygen aids in the combustion of the gasoline, making the gasoline burn more efficiently, i.e. milage gains. Hydrogen only thins down the oxygen, making the oxygen/gasoline mixture less efficient.