Tesla Self Driving vs Everyday Roads!
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- čas přidán 13. 12. 2022
- An uninterrupted drive with Tesla Full Self Driving (beta)
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In its current state, it feels like you are babysitting someone learning to drive and it feels much more stressful than just driving myself.
It’s much better than your average new driver though!
@@wrxdrunkie no it is not.
True
I only use it on long routes, and it’s damn good with that too.
Good analogy
I think this is the best video I have seen on fsd, showing the stress you are under, even when it is working as expected. When I was teaching my daughter to drive, this is exactly what it felt like. You are nervous, ready to intervene but desperately trying not to.
Great comparison. I actually tell my wife that my Tesla drives better than my daughter. She only has her permit. And for good reason! I seriously feel safer in my Tesla on FSD than I do when she drives.
Dirty Tesla has a great video with his wife that shows her nervousness with it
He was rarely over 40 miles an hour. Didn’t really have much to be so nervous about.
Hopefully soon this will be lowered as trust increases.
Haha. Yea but that's how I was with my first experience with active cruise control, until I got used to it then it became relaxing - I miss it when I don't have it now.
Could be the same here. After a bit of practice and getting to know its limitations it might be fine.
That was the most stressful drive I've ever been on . . . And I wasn't even there. I think I held my breath a few times. Thanks for sharing with us Marques!
Same! I always felt that self driving was a risky endeavor, but this video made it clear. Self driving is definitely not for me!
wrg, no stress x etc nmw
Those suspensions.. ouch
hearing Marques sigh at 4:30 out of nervousness has me anxious too
I feel stressed every time I have to drive on highways with lots of merging and lane changing. So much so that I try to stay on simpler paths so I don't have to worry about it. Would be nice if AI learned easier routes for it so you can choose to go a bit longer route in exchange for less worrying about it.
I was a Navy carrier pilot back in the day. I flew the A-7 Corsair. There was a link between the carrier and the aircraft that allowed it to automatically land on the carrier without the pilot doing anything but, literally, NOBODY ever used it. It was too stressful. One glitch and you're dead in an instant. All the A-7s have now been replaced by the much more sophisticated F-18 Hornet. Automatic landings are common today with the "Magic Carpet" system.
The stress he feels with the Tesla fully under automated control is the type of stress the pilots felt when they were not at the controls while landing on the aircraft carrier.
In your words, effectively…we aren’t there yet. I agree with that assessment.
That’s the kind of self-driving videos we should see-honest and not speed-up ones. I enjoyed this autopilot review. Thank you, Marques.
Thats the ONLY type of fsd videos ive ever watched. 100% honest no edit videos.. not sure what media youve been exposed to
@Jay R Call the geoguessr pro players right now
@@dmyrick6438 Do you know other trustworthy and precise content creators/videos who you might recommend watching?
if you like FSD videos like these, you should check out AI DRIVR.
@@dmyrick6438 um the Tesla Semi video wasnt sped up?
I feel like this video is a great representation of how good Marques is as a tech reviewer and CZcamsr. Sitting in a car that drives itself, one take, no cuts and still having a great and fluent monologue about the car, the traffic... Great watch!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What really makes him great tech reviewer for me is his honest openion based on what he experiences .. I totally trust his evaluation to any current tech. So do all his subscribers and viewers . I mean u cant pay him to cheat . Hes not that kind of a guy . I think if he wasnt then tesla would've payed thausants to make him view self driving as total future and a totally trustable tech
@@cosandreas9414what’s funny andreas?
@@7Frosty7 I was bouuta say that, buddy is tweaking 💀
The man discredit a lot
As an engineer I’m both impressed by the tech and horrified by all the possible scenarios that someone not paying attention or trusting the vehicle too much could encounter that would/could be deadly!
thanks for letting us know you're an engineer
@@EspressoIsDrugsthat’s true! If all cars are self driving it will leave 0 room for human error. The cars will always know where it is and what is around it. I hope they can implement this in the future for now I can only dream :(
@@EspressoIsDrugsNot really, you can see that it has problems with stationary objects as well.
@@EspressoIsDrugsonly if they could communicate with each other
@@EspressoIsDrugsi see what you mean. But then all perons that walk or make bicycle would need to be robot too :) !
For this to work, you will need all cars on the roads to be self driven to talk to each other and use a lot of radar information and bigger information ahead.
exactly, we are a ways from that.
Give it 30 years
I mean that don’t sound too far in the future tbh…
Until then, don't allow this substandard crap to be legal
@@jerryboics9550that would halt innovation
Would love to see you do the full self driving in other weather conditions. As you mentioned it only uses cameras so it would be cool to see it in like rain, or snow.
I expect more phantom braking.
Lane detection already is an issue in fog, it would be even more erratic.
The cameras all have heaters and the rain typically wipes off from the wipers and wind from the speed.
@@isaiahlouisb2 Even mild fog in Seattle plus bad angles due to hills cause it to confuse single and double lines separating road directions. I've had issues in Magnolia/Queen Anne where many of the road lines have been rubbed off badly so they aren't fully continuous.
@@isaiahlouisb2 How do heaters help with all the visibility issues from snow, rain, fog,etc?
I've been running the FSD beta on my Model S for a few months now. It went from trying to kill me 2-3 times on every drive, to only trying to kill me about once every trip. A lot of big improvements in the last few months, but given that I still have a lot to live for I'm not ready to turn it on and go to sleep just yet.
Now Elon has turned his attention to trying to get people killed on Twitter. Pro tip: NEVER take a job with him. Because if you ever piss him off, he'll sic his goons on you and your family.
😂 not ready to sleep just yet. Oh man I’m dying from that one!
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And that's totally expected. Surely it'll became more widely used, evolve over time, and, eventually, kill all humankind.
I’ve been curious about these cars for a while, but what really drew me in is the way you guided us with your thoughts of it through the process that made me want to keep watching start to finish! Good job! 👍🏻😎
I noticed this too. He consistently kept it as an engaging conversation, not a single moment of silence, and all in one take. Pretty darn impressive.
@@MangalSuvarnan He knows his job well i guess
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Please make updates every few months to see how it's getting better! Best unbiased FSD test ever. Also great to mention "embarrassing" driving of FSD, which is not really acceptable even if the car does it right.
*embarrasing
@@alvallac2171 it's "embarrassing", actually
@@ianliew2198 poo
The are a few self driving channels out there. Whole Mars Catalog and AI DRIVR both have a lot of videos. If you want to watch less opinions and more driving then Whole Mars Catalog is better.
@@alvallac2171I am not an english native speaker, but I think "embarrassing" is correct, isn't it?
“I might have to take over” semi lays on horn “ok I’m going to take over”
The embarrassment takeover 😅
@@mkbhd Yep - that is most of my takeovers too. Its like "the people behind me are paying the price for my beta testing... sighs"
@@mkbhd how about a drive in other weather conditions,
FSD is actually flawless in CA because Tesla AI team is in CA so most of the testing is done there
It would have handled that situation though. I’ve driven cross country with the car doing almost the entire drive and have seen damn near every situation you would see day to day. Embarrassing moments happen. Sometimes you just have to say ‘f it’
@Daniel Wolf Thats literally what it is😂
The stressed out vibe that Marques gave during this drive makes me feel like I wouldn't trust it to drive me somewhere, the amount of doubting it does in the drive and the sketchy disengage in that tollbooth with the cone where it headed straight into the barrier and panicked.. idk if I would trust it to let it drive itself somewhere.
it makes you nervous
but i can say for highway driving it is fantastic . and now with the full street driving . it can come off of exits a lot smoother than what it use to
@@dom_z3480 I can see the progress of Autopilot and Full FSD and I think it's great that it can do so much more over the past few years.. But I wouldn't lie down or stop paying attention with it. It makes you stay on high alert
@@christianocampos158 That's why it is "FSD-Beta" right now. It *is* not finished yet, and you *must* be ready to take over at any time. So I think it should not be compared with the expectation, that it drives itself somewhere. I feel like too many people (in general) just don't know what "Beta" means, or they ignore it, because it is currently named "FSD-Beta" but everyone is just writing/saying FSD, but that's not what it is yet!
Of course there's stress involved. It takes time to improve and build trust. You can't go from 0 to 1 within a moment.
One of the most important things to do when driving is it behave “as expected.” This changes by region (due to cultural norms) and also by road conditions. I think the embarrassment you’re feeling is partly that same sense of what is currently expected of you by others. When the car drives differently than a human, that strangeness isn’t just uncomfortable, it’s legitimately dangerous to put the onus of reacting to the unexpected on other drivers, even when technically correct.
As someone who just bought a new Model Y and didn't buy FSD, I'm honestly pretty impressed with the lane changes shown here- especially with what its able to do on the highway. I don't know if its $15,000 safer but it does appear relatively safe to me with an attentive driver at the wheel.
Wow, that’s a heavy fee for a software block 🥲
@@NotOctoPrpl it is some pretty insanely engineered software tho
So much anxiety watching this video 😂
Your choice is correct.
the new versions recently released are very much safer!
Great video! As an airplane pilot, when people say “don’t you just use the autopilot?” The narrative you gave is exactly how we feel and no one understands it unless they’ve used some sort of autopilot. It can be more stressful using autopilot for us in certain situations as we are essentially just making sure it does what it’s supposed to…so our vigilance is even higher!
Argh! My whole life has been a lie! I have always just assumed auto pilot worked perfectly 😮
I don’t know why I assumed that. And it sounds like I’m not alone.
"Ummm...what's it doing?"
"Why is it doing that?"
Did you ever watch the movie Flight. It's a good movie.
@@adriangale I mean it sort of does, if we mean things like sticking to the flight plan during the cruise stage. If you're in an Airbus under normal law (normal, full automation) it's more the plane babysitting you than the other way around - like during the terrain escape maneuver you can do the "pedal to the metal" airplane equivalent and it will prevent the otherwise very likely stall, so pilots just do it and are saved by the automation each time, and it's a regular procedure.
For example part of Air France 447 disaster was that for a while there was no full automation (due to period of missing flight parameters), and pilots were "allowed" to stall the aircraft which they ultimately did. In comparison it's certainly more other way around in an aircraft than it is in Tesla right now, not that it's perfect or completely hands-off of course.
Years later and you still seem to be one of the most trustworthy reviewers out there (tech and otherwise). Keep up the good work!
He lives in New Jersey, so dissapointed in him
He's been pretty biased a few times which made me unsubscribe but this video is nice anyways
@@mr_petabyte Why did you say that?
@@Coneelfrancis In a few videos he seemed to be biased towards apple and kind of personally annoyed by google which made his videos feel biased and not just about the tech and it's features but way to much about what he feels like and not what's actually the case
Sadly he didn't fully inform himself before making this video. He said that he had the car in "assertive" mode but that is for FSD beta, and in the highway he had navigate on autopilot (the inferior version) enabled and the settings for that are in another place.
I am absolutely surprised that you handle this so smoothly. I mean your reviews on everything. Much kudos. All the best MB.
Marques was fearing for his life that whole time, I don't blame you 😂😂
i fear for his life after the video, it shows were the studuo is and maybe his adress, too much sensitive information
@@gledston84 he's showed it before
This was a perfectly complex drive to film. I loved how it wasn't too crazy, but just enough obstacles to really challenge the AI.
And only 2 traffic violations, or one every 10 minutes! Almost on par with an average honda civic driver
Not to be negative but literally every video I've seen on CZcams of self driving challenges the crap out of it and puts the driver in harms way or impeding traffic. It's not a system you can get right most of the time.
@Tyler I live in a rural area in Sweden, trust me when I say that the Tesla would have no clue what to do. There are different unexpected things happening in rural areas compared to city-like conditions. Roads will all of a sudden have no markings, signs will be missing, roads will be missing from the map, some areas might even have gravel roads.
I'm quite convinced that full self driving cars will not be a thing until we combine smart cars with smart roads (i.e markers in asphalt, communication between vehicles, government uploading all construction to some centralized road network server etc.).
There are just too many unknowns for an ML taught car to deal with.
@@85Portar In America we have every country road mapped unless it is brand new and it gets added quickly. So rural areas it works almost flawlessly, especially one lane on each side roads. Roads are always painted, some signs missing, but not important ones.
@@85Portar The beauty of Tesla vision is its not completely rely on navigation data, and road markings. If the sign is missing, you can also not see that. Somewhere between 2020-2021 they seriously changed how cars act on the environment rather than navigation data. In early stage of fsd beta, it couldn't be able to handle construction sites or closed roads but now it can avoid them and if it can not pass through, it can recalculate the path.
I just want to point out that you did a great job talking during this whole thing. I’m not sure if you had a script pre planned so you had talking points or just did a really good job because you’re a natural. Either way keeping an audience engaged with your explanation was top notch.
I think it was live! Super impressive
Lol, really? He's narrating and adding contextual information. Are you that bad at talking?
this is his job..
@@musguelha14 Are you that bad at kindness?
He’s been doing things like this for a very long time, he’s great at what he’s does. There’s no script
Great video, Marques. I wish there was a way to dynamically tell the car how assertive it should be at any given moment, like for example pressing the accelerator pedal. I'd love to try FSD, but I'd use it specially on highways or stop-and-go, like you mentioned. It's pretty obvious that the car struggles with intersections, particularly the crazier ones.
Dude this video was kinda relaxing. It felt like me and Marques were just really good friends with me in the back seat, just having a conversation on the way to the studio. I LOVED THIS
As somebody that has used FSD for maybe a year now in the beta, I can confidently say that your "sum up" of "It's kind of sloppy, but it works...." is probably the best way to describe FSD in it's current iteration.
Do you want to be a driver? Or a manager ....Cruise control and slow traffic stop/start is enough ... FSD is bullsh!t ... and will be for another 10 years of development. I'll take another look then.
Should be revised to, "It's sloppy, but it kinda works."
@@hieroglyph321 I think the op is agreeing with Marques
"It is very unreliable, and doesn't really work that well" is what I would say.
Besides the always troubling human un-predictableness this testing is done on 3rd world roads, man the US roads are bad
The main thing that I learned from this video is that Marques would be an excellent and patient driving instructor.
lmao
It’s the impatient drivers that bother me like the truck the was blowing the horn at him.
@@retro8696 Unnecessarily stopping on a roadway is dumb and can be quite dangerous as people don't expect to get to a full stop.
Thanks for the great video Marques.
I wonder if Tesla engineers are properly programming into the autopilot how dangerous big speed differences are. Sometimes stopping and slowing down increases rather than decreases risk...
I did not know I would enjoy 20mins plus of a man driving in a car but somehow you made it even exciting! Your narrating skills and choice of words is excellent. I noticed the beep you did when the police car approached, I wonder why? Also, how you switched the video from camera to phone camera while the audio was unchanged *chefs kiss*
Your commentary is hilarious. Love how you share your nervousness and fair assessment of FSD. I’d definitely be a regular viewer of your drives to track progress.
With current hardware, not much more progress will happen. This will remain in perpetual beta until Elon finds a new CEO and cashes out as much as possible.
@@Ashan360 Jokes aside, if this means eventually Tesla will add Lidar to their vehicles and stop pretending its terrible, it's a good thing.
@@abubakrakram6208 yeah. They need to add lidar
And people don't have that kind of patience nowadays 😂
It's gonna progress with time..
Marques really knows how to keep engagement. I watch this whole video from start to finish without leaving my seat. I can’t imagine he had a script for this either because it’s a demo and he’s reacting in real time. Dude is awesome.
you don't think you could talk about a car while you're driving that car?
@@Geoffrey___The key is to be engaging. The fact that you weren’t intelligent enough to see the nuance in such a basic statement proves to me that you would not be engaging at all.
@@___DRIP___ sounds like you need some confidence and a father figure. You could do worse than MBKHD. Keep gargling his nuts and maybe he'll notice you one day 🤞
@@Geoffrey___ Sounds like you need some elementary school level comprehension skills. Good luck with that Geoff
marques and supporting a transphobic power hungry maniac, name a more iconic duo
Just landed on this video, great information all around about this beta version, also glad to see how that South Kearny Area has developed in the last 8 years since I moved out of NJ, used to work in the street right behind that new complex.
One of the coolest thing I have ever seen, your narrative from the start till the end where you showed the Tesla's visibility; Without your narrative it would have been scary to watch the adventure. I may sit behind an auto pilot enable Tesla when it passes the offroad test and also not halting behind a truck. Nice narration bro, Cheers for everyone!
Honestly, the thing I've learnt in this video is how grateful I am for my transit commute and not having to deal with any of these situation the morning.
Yes, same here.
As long as you don't pay for it full price (I don't mean full price at the ticket office, I mean price what it really cost...)
@@FreedomIsNotGoingToBeFree Well don't you basically pay the full cost through taxation? Plus government spending is more than free market.
Wow😮 this is probably the best video I’ve watched this year.
Now if only the MTA could clean up all the crazies on the trains...
Man, my heart rate was high, just watching the video. You could probably make a 10 part TV series of you just driving to work and you’ll probably get loads of viewers
That effect wears down pretty quick after watching a few FSD beta videos.
There are whole channels which basically just do that
AI drivr is my recommendation if you want to see channels like that
Very good demonstration and excellent narration. The added stress of NJ driving, which I am very familiar with, makes it seem too stressful, like someone else described similar to teaching a learner how to drive. I believe that you are actually contributing to their data, and helping to train their FSD software so it is literally that!
Thankl you for your bravery testing this so well, I was ready to grab the "wheel"for you
As a Software Engineer who has worked in computer vision projects I am nothing but impressed... I know everyone is saying it still sucks and isnt full auto drive but honestly it's come so far the number of variables it has to deal with is insane...
I totally agree. Sure, it’s taking way longer that he said it would, but what Elon project hasn’t? It’s still miles ahead of any other actual self driving. Even just on highways for road trips I would be happy with that. I rented a Honda with lane assist and active cruise a while back and just having that was amazing for Highway driving with young kids.
Yeah my question is what happens if the program crashes or freezes... It's not like we have not experienced that on our other devices such as pc or laptop
The point is that it's a bad idea. Not how impressive the technology is.
When I got FSD Beta, I used to be so stressed on the drive that by the end of the trip my back would hurt like crazy 😂. Overtime, you get to adapt to it and now I’m definitely more relaxed with it. I use it maybe 25-35% of the time.
I've had it for a few months and can't ever get a half decent left turn at most intersections in my town, those disengagements are my deal breaker for being unable to use it 🥲
@@happyjohn1656 Tesla introducing additional sensors sometime in Q1 according to the leaks. So RIP everyone who just bought a $60k car + $15k "self driving" package
Not to sound vain, but perhaps you only use it to justify buying one in the first place?
When it's good, it's good. When it's not good, it's not scary; it's annoying
Why are you doing that??? Fine, I'll take over. Okay, I've got you through that. Now you take over until the next time you need help.
But that it can do what it can do is amazing!
@@MaxCaud I have a 2020 M3 so I have a radar and USS. Also "only" paid $8k for the FSD package, def not worth 15k 🤮
USS removal was such a stupid move.
I always wondered what it would be like. Thanks for sharing.
MB videos are so insanely wonderful. Dudeman just launches into this fascinating demonstration and keeps my interest with commentary the whole time.
That was one of the best review videos I’ve ever seen. Your personal interaction and observations in the car were priceless. Very informative. Great job.
The issue here is more then the car driving autopilot. Its the risks. If we have an car that can drive safely on a road for 10 miles, but does something unusual during 50 meters, a sudden break, a bad steering, anything out of the ordinary for say 1-2 seconds can lead to a car crash, injury, a unexpected family car incident. That what AI is, its steering yes, but if one little goes ascrew, you might lose a limb.
basically, if he trusted the AI, he hit those traffic cones , and drive through a toll with a cone, after those incidents we have no idea how the AI would have reacted. prob two crashes during one single 20min drive to work.
Totally priceless! I'd have been a nervous wreck... it's hard enough to know when to "nudge" a human driver with words. but to just have options to take control or trust. that's rough. Regarding this exactly: I expect it would have come to a sudden stop before hitting the single toll booth cone. and then he'd have to remove the cone, or back up. manually. Both embarrassing and dumb. And Re the line of traffic cones it was approaching without scooting over... I think it would have run some down... and then stopped. also not good. I was on the edge of my seat watching this the entire time. I know know I should never be a tester for this sort of thing... or even a student driver instructor. :D
Minus the fact he can't figure out the difference between NoA and Beta
He wasn’t even using FSD
Just a heads-up that Navigate-on-Autopilot settings are separate from Full-Self-Driving Beta settings. That's why you had to confirm lane changes, and felt that it was being less assertive on the highway.
Yea, this video was mainly showing driving in 'Navigate-on-Autopilot'. As soon as you go on a highway it switches from Full-Self-Driving Beta to Navigate-on-Autopilot. You can identify Navigate-on-Autopilot by the road markings that are not flickering, for those wondering.
For the record, you can turn off the lane change confirmation even for NoA
@@orcslayer900 True, but still on the old stack the blinker will stay on for like 4 seconds before actually initiating the lane change, annoying. Single stack soon Copium
@@LuiPau I thought the most recent update was going to unify the stacks?
@@unlimitedbagels nah stuff like this will eventually be flawless, technology like that won’t glitch like a pc game when it’s fully functional . They have robots arms that preform surgery so efficiently it reduces the recovery time of the patient , a human couldn’t be as precise no matter what and those things don’t glitch .
Thank you so much for all of your reviews. They’re amazing, young brother. Ty ty Ty.
Gosh, the feeling as if i am the one driving. That was the most stressful drive I've ever been on . . . And I wasn't even there. I think I held my breath a few times. Thanks for sharing with us Marques! Peace and love man, all the way from Namibia
I wonder how it would handle busy narrow roads in European cities, cause what you've shown seems to indicate that it would've struggled... a lot.
Not necessarily, it does better in narrow single lane roads than wide unmarked roads.
@@boostav Busy narrow roads aren't the same as single lane roads
I love people come at the problem with an arrogance that only humans can pull off something as mundane as navigating a narrow road.
Here on German roads any type of autopilot really struggles with any type of our roads, sometimes even the autobahn, I would be very scared to have this thing drive me through a city like Munchen or Cologne LOL
@@shankhadeepshome3982european city centers are built for pedestrians, it's a lot of people behaving unpredictably
I would love to see a test drive like this in some night and normal rain conditions, just rain shower at dark. That's more demanding for me as a driver on the busy streets with all the reflections than the snow itself. Specially with strictly visual based system.
I don't think I'd let it drive me on the busy traffic roads, but since I'm used using to adaptive cruise control I would be very happy with this level of assistance on the longer inter-town drives, specially on a long roadtrip.
There are sooooo many countless FSD videos showing its improvements over the last 2 years 😜
5:25 PM
12/23/2022
I came here to say the same, especially since he mentioned that Tesla is camera only. Night time driving is where this will bring best benefits for me as a driver.
@@happyjohn1656 would you have a link to a good video showing these improvements? Rather than me finding any silly video...
@@SebastianSpiess Look at Dirty Tesla, Chuck Cook, and AI Driver's videos, they do a pretty decent job!
I've had beta for a few months now and can confirm cameras still can't see in the dark though 😅 - FSD constantly visualizes vehicles and pedestrians that aren't there and just won't move until you intervene. :(
4:53 PM
12/27/2022
I have used basic auto pilot many times while pouring rain during night time. Not only did it see better than me (rendered lane lines further than I could see), but I felt so much safer having it activated so I could focus more on emergency situations rather than focusing on staying in the lane.
I tried FSD on my Model 3 for a month and I agree that it was super stressful. Basic AP is amazing for long highway drives but I prefer driving “manually” almost everywhere else.
Thanks Marques for "educating the car and contributing to the data for us future Auto pilot drivers!
Its amazing how big distances are in the US. 20min commute but most of it it's doing 45 (in a residential area too) and 60 on a highway, covering a very considerable distance. In europe a trip like this would mean you had to cross half the city or even more, but here it is a run-of-the-mill commute, and possibly on the shorter side.
To be fair we have states the size of some European countries soooo.
@@cocoisadog while this is true, I was mostly referring to the size of the cities. In the US, while they are larger, they are not as dense, because of huge urban and suburban sprawl
@@bobdimitrakakis8183 I guess some of the reason for the lower density is that a lot of modern America was build with cars in mind.
In Texas, you can drive for 7 hours, and still be in the same State.
I live in the province of Ontario in Canada which is so big that it has 2 time zones lol. Takes us over 21 hours to cross over into a different province. But of course, except Toronto, nothing is as densely populated as Europe here.
You were a lot more calm with that semi truck parking than I would have been.
Getting pissed off and honking, or whatever, isn't going to change a thing. The truck isn't going to move, so you just ignore and drive around, like it was a big dumb cardboard box on the road or some other inanimate object. Who cares if you lose 30 seconds of your day? Not exactly life changing.
I was thinking exactly the same. 😆
Give way and help. If you get mad and honk its only going to take longer
@@Killer99215 Yeah offer help instead, unlike this idiot's comment
Well you all three 👆are obviously saints 😂
This is stressful!! Tried it myself on my Tesla almost got rear ended..Kudos to you Marques for trying on Jersey highways.
22:30 Best line in this video 🙌😂 and after that it's capability to see / observe soo much! is Just mind boggling 🤯 Thank God you showed the bit in the end 🙏
One of the major limitations I’ve found is that “creeping for visibility” thing. It really needs a couple of cameras mounted way at the front corners of the car pointed left and right to help it see around corners. There’s an intersection near my house where it takes like 15 - 20 seconds to finally get a good look at cross traffic before it’s comfortable making the turn. And, as you said, it’s the embarrassment that makes me disengage. The thing that sucks about this is that there is no software solution to this problem because if it can’t see, it can’t see.
Yes exactly two cameras integrated at the end of the headlight assembly, one pointing right and one pointing left would help the system so much! Elon take notes!
Somehow humans can do all this creeping for visibility while their head is positioned further behind blinker cameras. I think it has to do more with the car knowing where to stop for most visibility while not stopping too far so I'd say it's possible to do with the current camera setup.
I'm not sure that's true. Humans are able to see and make a good judgement even when sitting inside the car, cameras on the front should have even better visibility. I think it's just (understandably) over cautious and takes an approach "move slowly until clear" rather than "move until it's not clear".
@@arturpotyraa8397 given that it's a safety critical system I would guess the engineers deliberately program it to stop further back and creep slower just to ensure the safety of the passengers, better 'slow' than sorry I guess
Yes, ever yvehicle needs at least four full-hd lidar drones on each corner, 10 meters ahead of the car and one on top checking for attacking pigeons from above.
I have the same feeling about the highway. I live in Florida and our highways are actually pretty good for this, no real elevation changes, well marked lanes, no pothole damage from freezing winters like up north and long sweeping curves. But we once off the Highway it feels like a suicide mission
Bingo- clean and clear highways in florida and some other parts of US and it works perfectly. Stop signs? Absolutely not.
right its that last 5% of autonomous driving that will take decades to fill. 1st 90% is easy.
I95 is NOT a good highway
Its amazing to see so many Tesla in NJ now. My biggest gripe for most of them are they go a few miles under the speed limit for some reason and seem to love the left hand lane.
Scary to watch it go so confidentially and quick. Great Autopilot progress!
This is more then a video, it's an experience. Fantastic stuff.
*than
True thanks for the best self driving video
I was sitting on the edge of my seat the whole time:D
Marques is really talented in getting someone's attention even when they don't want to give it. I had no intention of watching a 23 minute FSD video, but I did. Very nice video, explanation and commentary. I can't see myself giving over driving to a computer. At least not in the near future.
This is exactly what's in my mind
Indeed
Yeah, I would not be too trusting. This was a reveling video on self driving vehicles. Thank you for doing this video and being transparent.
Enhanced Auto Pilot, amazing. FSD on city streets is a little scary. I would tell most to pay the $6k and drive yourself in city. Mostly because it makes passengers freak out too often. Good video 🤟
The raw emotions here are so accurate. I have the beta as well and this is exactly how I feel on every drive with it. I'm surprised it took this long for a CZcams channel to come out with a video that could portray these feelings so accurately with FSD.
Honestly, I'd love to see it try and go around my hometown, the roads are usually only 20-30 feet wide with on street parking and regular buses. Taxing to drive normally, I don't know how Autopilot would handle having to duck into gaps of parked cars every so often
I felt stressed and anxious watching this. Great video - loved that little smile at the end! Keep up the great work!
You got stressed by a video.......hmmmmmmm
@@oldergamer8037 oh you want to be rude huh?
I just found this video! You said, "driving like an old lady." Too, funny! 😂 Perhaps somewhat nerve racking!! I've experienced New York / New Jersey traffic as a passenger and I must say, you're very brave to test it in New Jersey traffic. However, you handled it great! I'm contemplating a Tesla Plaid with that option so the jury is still out. You're fun to watch and I tip my hat 🧢 to you. Thanks for sharing! 💯👌🏾💯
I think if I watched this video without the commentary I wouldn't have thought it was as stressful as he says it is, it's a good thing to get input from the person in the car
This was awesome. Crazy what variety of situations you came across in a 20 minute drive. It was great to witness a full, typical commute from start to finish, and your commentary hit the nail on the head. 🙏
Whose head did the nail hit?
I've had FSD beta for about 6 months. Most of the CZcamsrs show city driving. I drive mostly country roads. The car struggles with large country intersections, stopping way too short, waiting too long to go, creeping for way to much distance and even into the cross road before it decides to go. It's trust it driving straight on the roads but I almost always take over at intersections. I agree with you, it can be very embarrassing to just let it drive like a 12 year old at intersections or more complicated areas.
I find FSD works great in heavy traffic and multiple lane roads. You put it on an open country road and it has no idea what to do.
hopefully you keep letting FSD try those difficult roads, it will make valuable data for the neural network.
@@jordonmanwaring5239 Seems like that's sign of what the developers are working hardest on. This is way far away from real self-driving and NHTSA needs to be paying attention!
I really hate the complete stop at intersections when there is no other car around but it isn’t teslas fault. I remember when the car would do rolling stop but the NHTSB put a stop to that
That's where I would be driving. The 'main' road on my way to and from work is a very narrow two lane that's a short cut for semi's getting to industrial parks on either end. I't posted 45 everyone drives 55, corn fields on each side with patches of wooded areas very close to the road. No shoulder at all. If it's raining or snowing it scares me how close on coming traffic is to the center line. Oh, potholes, lot's of them,
Do you think it could handle that situation without intervention or non stop butt puckering?
Hey Marques! Old lady here...just sayin'... As with others, I was holding my breath and had an increased heart rate. You were more lenient than I could have been! I don't think any of the situations you encountered were so unusual. If the program can't tell how to handle these situations, despite it being a beta system, I don't think the programmers have taken their responsibilities seriously. That may be harsh, but we're talking about lives here! I would not drive comfortably with that system and consider it a hazard from what I saw in your video. BTW, I really appreciate the care and intelligence you bring to your reviews. Thank you!
I live in the Philly suburbs and am very familiar driving in Jersey...plus with NJ,NY and Philly drivers all together and this was giving me immense anxiety lol. Loved it though, thanks for doing this scary video 💜
As an Airline Pilot, we basically treat an autopilot the same way. It’s nice to have so you aren’t manually manipulating controls all the time, but you are constantly monitoring it because it does weird things or gives up sometimes.
An airline pilot myself, about to give the same comment as you just did. Autopilot is a helpful tool but planes don't simply goes from A to B in a straight line, you need to navigate (aside from climb and descend) by pilot's input. So does Tesla's Autopilot, it is acceptable on highway but I'd rather turn it off for city traffic and manually drive the car, bet that's gonna be more relaxed compared to autopilot on.
Is there any possibility AI will take over pilot job in the near future?
@@nhathoang9862 Similar thing I've heard from Train drivers. ATO tends to be very capable but every now and then it will just give up for whatever reason and as such train drivers will be sitting ready to take over (at least for those running in ATO corridors, those running with more archaic signalling are of course driving fully manually as there is nothing for the ATO to work with)
@@pessiescobar4707 Autonomous airplane, as a concept, has been around for the last decade or so. Airlines have been pitching to manufacturers to reduce the minimum pilot required to operate a passenger transport jet down to a single pilot crew (cost saving, obviously). The question is would manufacturers like Airbus or Boeing, and more importantly, would humans (regulators and passengers) feel safe for that to happen in the future? I simply can't answer that. Personally speaking, I'd rather fly with a colleague than an AI who's pretending to be my colleague.
Hey I wonder, do you manually land the plane or is also autoplot capable of landing?
no matter how good this gets, there will always be that one person who screams throughout the entire drive
Lol
Yea it might be too late for me lol. I would always feel uneasy
It's me, I'm that guy.
He promised it to be FULLY finished like 6+ years ago
@@notpenguino Same
ty so much for uploading!
Great video. I just got '23 Y and it came with FSD beta for free for a month to try out. I think I could see myself using this on uncongested highway and not in downtown city driving. I was impressed, but i felt like it was more work trying to figure out what the car was or wasn't going to do compared to just driving.
I’d say we won’t really see a peak for self driving cars until most cars on the road are self driving and begin to communicate with each other.
True said 👍
yeah and at that point they'll be sending assassin robots that look like humans back in time to cause Judgement Day.
Almost like public transportation is a good option
the systems just have to get better, which they will do over time
And for that to happen, cars will need to be cloud devices... and that means wireless carjacking will be a concern.
I'm starting to think the "busses and trains git gud" route is the more practical and sane one.
I'm convinced that the only way this works is when every other car on the road is also self-driving otherwise i just don't see how to close the gap between human driving behavior and AI. The nervousness and embarrassment is a direct output of that gap and I think it's not a matter of getting better but the inevitable result of erring on the side of caution which if you think about it, a machine really *has* to do.
Came here to say the same thing.
Ehhh no. not really the only issue with other drives who are driving them selves is when they do something critically wrong then that could cause a self driving car to get confused. However even those events can be countered as the car will soon be able to make its own decisions based on the type of road and how drivers are driving. This will lead to a safer experience and the car will be able to handle complex fast moving events which a typical person could get overloaded with.
total off topic but love to see MKBHD is using my old commute route. lots of memories
Thank you one of best non bias demonstrations I've seen. Yeah not great but really good start. Didn't know they switched to just camera not radar or others... not sure that's going to work in all weather/night/whatever
FSD Stress is real, especially in a big city with so many possible traffic scenarios. But it's also mind blowing how fast this system is progressing.
I haven’t been seeing it’s progress for very long, how much has it improved in the past few years.
10 years, 300,000 cars, over 40,000,000 mile, and it still can't pass the driver test. How long did it take you to pass?
@@Google_Does_Evil_Nowfsd beta is 1 year old lol nice try
There are some things the AI is good at, but the system can’t replace the real time reactions of a human driver. Perhaps it never will.
When driving in the suburbs I feel orders of magnitude less stress when letting FSD drive than driving in one of the largest cities in America. The density of the city increases the possible bogeys that the FSD computer has to navigate around. Even some humans hate driving in a dense city.
I’ve had the FSD beta since October of last year. There’s a learning curve to understanding what the car is capable of. You have to reset all expectations every single update. You need to understand car will fail at certain things 100% of the time because they’re not programmed in.
But it’s fun seeing the tech evolve
The cars like what do i DOOO
Well to answer your question real quick. In heavy rain the autopilot shuts off and gives you a warning saying inclement weather does not allow for FSD.
Doesn't sound like full self driving....
@@DetlefEick Hence FSD Beta. It's improving rapidly through real world testing
@@DetlefEick it’s a beta…
My heart beat went up dude!!!! But I guess it's a really good starting point for something this big! Auto-pilot is definitely going to be a thing in the future and I'm sure it's going to be even more accurate when more and more cars are equipped with it on the road--better communication between the cars, as in "talking" to and "shaking hands" with other vehicles on the road.
This was the best review of Tesla's beta feature. Thank you!
I’ve had it for about 8 months and it definitely gets to a point where it’s comfortable and predictable. You end up learning how to manage those “embarrassing moments” with the gas petal without disengaging. It makes driving super chill.
That’s awesome to hear! Seems so cool
I will second this. After a week of driving, I had identified all of the potential disengagement moments or things that it did not do well and I take over then. For me, it has significantly improved my daily commute of an hour, which includes city and highway driving with a lot of traffic.
Yeah I don’t think he mentioned the tapping accelerator to tell it to go. It takes some time to get used to the quirks but you learn to live with them and predict them a bit
confirmation bias is a hell of a thing. My bet is you wouldn't put you child in the car unattended and trust the vehicle to deliver them safely across town.
@@CS30123 Well obviously not. But thats not what he said, is it? he said it makes driving super chill when you're used to its quirks, and that is very much true.
This review seems unbiased and honest. I also like the kind of tests that "AI DRIVR" performs. He doesn't let the embarrassment factor force him to intervene, but really tries to let the car figure it out as much as humanly possible.
AI driver is basically an unpaid beta tester (Without company insurance if something goes south), like many tesla drivers…
@@erebostd sounds like you're suggesting this is somehow unprecedented or wrong? The choice is yours and the risks are incredibly obvious to the point they need not be spelled out
@@pottyputter05 I don’t care if people do free work, but i care that they do it on public roads and not savely. The software isn’t „there“, obviously, and people get killed or injured. Tesla isn’t paying for accidents caused by AS, and as long as that’s the case, the Test need to happen on private property.
@@erebostd You are right, there are accidents, which are caused by Humans drivers. There are 7 to 10 Times less accidents with activated Autopilot than the rest of the US Cars (Which are mostly driven by Humans).
To follow your suggestion, all human drivers should drive on private roads and only Tesla Autopilot should remain on the roads. That's how you would save real lives. Not the other way round.
@@seby5962 ok you can't or won't understand my point about liability, so this is pointless. Tesla Fans arr worse than apple fanatics..
Nice job. One of the better self-driving demo videos I've seen.
It's an incredible piece of technology that is mindblowing in how effective it is, but I wouldn't want to use it at all for the same reasons you listed in this video.
I'll admit, this area really puts the self-driving through its paces. In my area (Scottsdale AZ) everything is built on damn near perfect grid. We have very little/no construction, cars don't park on the side of the road, our highways are 4-5 lanes wide with uniform on and off ramps, etc.
Totally agree. I'm a long time New York area Tesla driver and it's way more sketchy to use autopilot in NY/NJ than on middle of nowhere highways.
@@altyus2229 you can imagine how hard it would be for it to work in europe, very tight roads
In NY if I didn't see construction in a 4 min drive I would think something is wrong.
@@dmnk8 1 mile = 1 hour
Have you watched the videos about the uber robotaxis getting stuck in exactly the city you’re talking about?
Man this was great hearing you narrate your thought process and reactions to the car's behavior. I found myself seeing and hearing your decisions and agreeing with your take. Def would not feel comfortable with letting it "Lyft" me to work etc. Not yet.
Also thank god for him interfering when the Tesla was going to stutter while it thinks. Being unpredictable (like randomly stopping or slowing down in the wrong place) could cause issues downstream of the Tesla even if the Tesla doesnt get in an accident someone else will.
Looks like the AI isn't comfortable with doing Lyft either, it demands a proper driver to have eyes looking out the windshield, and hands within reach of the wheel, at all times!
@@jaad9848 Safe driving is predictable driving. I don't care if it's against the law or not following traffic rules to the tee. Humans understand predictable driving. This thing does not. Hard pass.
@@cykeok3525 that should be law for now, its not predictable enough yet
@@kingofnara Agreed.
I Turo'd a Model 3 from Minneapolis area to Salt Lake City area recently. I did not use FSD but did use autopilot and experienced phantom braking about 3 times per 100 miles. Super annoying! I quickly learned to habitually hover my foot over the accelerator when any vehicle was behind me
This is still cool as hell but they have some work to do. I wouldn't do it myself but I'm glad people like you are willing to do the beta. This is real self driving versus the cruise stuff.
There's just something about Marques that I just enjoy listening to/watching. His voice or intonation or stance or all of the above. I have FSD Beta and love it but I can't sit to listen/watch other videos. This one is engaging at each minute at each turn. Thank you Marques!
He has great insights and is a natural speaker.
I own a 22' Subaru Crosstrek Sport with a lane keep assist and adaptive cruise. This means on the freeway it can pretty much drive itself as long as I keep a hand on the wheel. There are instances where for whatever reason it doesn't pick up the lanes and it disengages or a sharp curve in the freeway disengages it or I just don't trust it and turn it off. I think this is as much as I'd trust a car currently with driving, I'll let it steer on the freeway as long as there's no sketchy semi's, sharp curves, or construction.
I like the self driving features. Mostly for highways but sometimes u drop something or need to look for something in the car or your kids are FIGHTING and need a ref. I can see it being very useful for those things
Can you make another video for a night driving situation? Since as you mentioned the new system only uses camera instead of radar, it would be interesting to see how it works. Thanks!
Absolutely no difference day or nice , same garbage, one thing can affect it is heavy rain or snow , it will day due to weather conditions this feature is not available.
Night time driving during rain / snow.
It's actually better at night because there is less cars out. The cameras see the lines and lights even better during the night.
@@ViscusoVlogs that’s interesting to know. Did you try it?
@@ThePRATIKCHAUDHARI yes, I drive at night a lot.
I think if the errors found are improved its a pretty dope feature to have in a car well demonstrated at that!!
keep up the great production.
I'm convinced that some tech support dude from half way across the globe is controlling this like it's Forza 5
FSD is equally incredible and terrifying
You should be terrified of AI
Most reliable cars, Toyota. Tesla is number 19th.
@@fynkozari9271 wow, what complete bullshit
Clearly it’s ability to map the world around you and give a real time representation of everything shows it’s just a matter of perfecting that and getting its decision making time up and perfected
That was a stressful drive and I live in Jakarta where the traffic is far worst. Great experienced tho. Thanks Marques!
Pretty much nailed our experience with FSD beta. Had it for a while now and it is at best a student driver around town. Still love using "enhanced auto pilot" on long trips but it has a way to go for driving on surface streets. Thanks Marques!
Hands down one of the best MKBHD videos of the last couple of years. 👌 This was a great, well-recorded insight into the functionality and usability of the self-driving feature.
MKBHD you know what to do with Tesla
He wasn’t even using FSD. He was using navigate on autopilot and didn’t realize it. This video is misinformation, although unintentional
@@DirtyHashBrowns How do you know?
@@slickzMdzn You can tell because its not displaying FSD visualization. Its literally just a blue line to the car in front (i.e. autopilot/navigate on autopilot). He also claims his car is on aggressive mode but it just sits in the far right slow lane.