Spent WAY Too Much $$$ Polishing This Turd
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- čas přidán 13. 01. 2024
- In "Scruffy Phones It In", Taryl goes over this old MTD snow blower and tries to flip it for cash. The only problem is it's WORE OUT! He ends up dumping wayyyy more money into it than it's worth. He won't be able to fully recoup his money but you'll at least get a nice lesson on how to fix one of these up.
Prior to and after the how-to, local yokel, Scruffy, is back at the shop needing parts. The only problem is he doesn't know WHAT he needs. After several attempts at describing and even drawing the part, he decides to phone it in to the wife and see if she can help. Another funny, yet informative video based on real events and helpful problem solving brought to you by the hardest working small engine channel going. Now There's Your Dinner!!
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Great job Terrell
What a turd, there is no way that MTD crap is better than my Toro pro max. Yesterday my Toro munched through 6 inches of ice all on my driveway , it made an amazing sound right down to pavement.
You probably did that already but you could have had somebody turn that down .015 or .020 to clean it up to a smooth cylinder and then make a bronze sleeve and put over it and turn that back to the correct OD and set the clearance for the ID of your new bushings!
I flip blowers a lot and I look for nice clean ones in the summer, you get them dirt cheap and then maybe put 100-200 into them max and flip them in the fall/winter. Belts and carb kit are usually a given, if the friction disc is bad I usually pass on them. It is common to find them with bad auger shaft bearings and seized wheels/axles. That blower would sell for around $400 in my area all fixed up like that. When I fix up a decent blower in mint condition they can sell for around $800-$1000. I prefer working on the older ones because I can get parts easier and I have a lot of good used parts for them sitting around. Don't overpay for something that needs work!
"Mice access hole" = 😂😂😂
I used to work on vintage railroad equipment for a living. Building up worn parts with weld and machining them back to tolerance was an every day occurrence. You're not going to find parts for a 1915 steam engine on the shelf. Really gives you a sense of pride in a job well done instead of just replacing parts.
I worked in a small engine shop in MN, and had a "scrap" area of broken down equipment. When I got there, the owner was deep in equipment needing repair, so after about a month and a half of getting caught up; flipping customers equipment out daily and getting them fixed up, I decided to go through the "scrap" area and see if we could flip some equipment up for sale. I told the owner that shop labor from me would be exempt to the sale price, so that way we could go through it without having that part of the cost dictating what would be flipped. I found an older commercial walk behind mower with a big deck on it, and was told that it was a customers mower that he traded for a different mower, the carb was gone through and ran a few years back. I took that in first, cleaned it up, got it back up and running, and put it out front for sale. That exact customer drove by, saw his old mower, turned into the driveway, and paid to have his old mower back. The shop owner was jumping and clapping his hands; and absolutely delighted that on the day that I decided to go through the "scrap" pile, get this mower up and running, that the original owner came back and paid to get his old mower back.
You should repair and store every snowblower you can find. Both Home Depot and Lowe's says they are dropping all gasoline appliances and moving to 100% battery operated devices. Snowblowers will be worth their weight in gold in a few years.
worth only for those who use them or "like them" most are junk!!! only ones Iever see that worked GREAT were the BIG OLD GRAVELY ,s with HUGE external Propellers w/15 Hp Kohler engines and are "SULKY" capable as Mowers. And some Old Areins & Wards ones. MTDs are the POPS ones in my experience
@@stuszith The choice is not perfection, it's battery operated crap or a gas powered model.
The battery operated ones are just far too limited and will cost a fortune because the batteries are not going to last long used in such condition. We're talking subfreezing temperatures with extremely high discharge rates.
Gas powered models can run for hours.
I hate that they’re making everything electric nowadays which is a bunch of crap
The 2 different axel holes are for tire size. 5 and 8 hp. The empty hole is for mice to access
Yes the units with the taller tires the axle went in the upper hole and the shorter tires went in the lower hole.
@@KraeseRepairs Units with tracks use one of the holes as well.
🐁🕳️😂👌
At least they gave the mouse a home lol
Exactly! I stuffed steel wool in there and mice have to live in the lawnmower now
Only the older folks will know about welcome back Kotter. Good job on the MTD.
I love these videos! To watch Taryl Dactal's "MASTER HANDS" resurrecting these older machines is SO fascinating. I could "binge watch" till the "cows come home"!!!!!!
If I owned this machine, I'd gladly put the $300 in parts into it, and also gain even more solid knowledge of how it works. That is, essentially, a new snowblower now. It should last at least as long as it already has. I priced new snow blowers of that size, during this video, and found the cheapest one was about $500. I'd rather spend the $300, and have a machine which has already proven it can last over thirty years. In fact, while ordering parts, I might even buy extras of a few, like the bushings.
Like you always say... They don't make 'em like they used to.
Hate to rain on your parade, there was crap back then too. It obviously didn't survive to make it to today. Besides, there are snow blowers out there built as heavily as this thing but you will be spending some real cash on it. If you look at Cub Cadet, its machines matching the build quality of this thing is its HD series. I know, because I have one. Also, the engines on them are hard to beat, even looking back to the flathead engines of that era as they were noisy, unpleasantly smelly (due to the huge inefficiencies and incomplete combustion of flathead designs, but Honda's flathead engines were even better than most Briggs or Tecumseh engines up until the last ones released 10 years ago) and consumed too much fuel. The 420 cc monster on my Cub gets the job done and starts first or second pull.
@@WJCTechyman You didn't rain on my parade. I stand by what I said. Your third sentence adds credence to my point. Thank you.
These videos are genius. Whoever thought up the idea of comedy and instructional videos needs a pat on the back. Keep up the good work guys!
Most people like the quick and to the point videos to show them what it is they’re looking for, I like that too.
But, the reason Taryl is above everyone else is because he takes the time to show you, step-by-step, including mistakes, and failures.
More real world/relatable stuff, and he’s honest and truthful about various products and his approach during the repairs.
Great Sunday morning now, thanks Taryl!
I'm guessing camera man is your son Jr, I didn't realize he's 37 years old that's awesome you have little helpers that old that stayed with you for so long. I'm 25 and I still help my 70 year old dad with work and I see it mostly as love for my little family. Mad respect for you and your son's. ❤️✌️💪💪
lol I partied with BIG FOOT too one time, and I agree, great Guy lol. Strength! GODspeed!
I admire your patience.
The skits hit home for me at work 😂 Sometimes they don't even know what color it is 😂
I have a 1965 Ariens snow throw. Same year I was born and bought new by my grandfather.
Yea... I like that. From Grandpa, to my Dad, down to me. I'm hoping to give it to my Grandson some day. My daughters don't have a lot of interest in it ;-)
About 8 years ago I had to do most of what Taryl's doing with this one.
It does take time but, in my case, it was worth it to me to try to save it.
GOOD MORNING EVERYONE 😁😁,good video?!!!!
Holy restoration, Blade Man! Like you said you'd never get back what you have in it but a little charity work once in a while can be a good thing. Thanks for making vids every week.
This is why I work on all my equipment. Fix it and understand how it works rather than buying new because of a breakdown. Only one person within 25 miles of me works on any outdoor equipment and he won't touch anything that requires a rebuild, and won't even do a valve job, so it's me doing the work. Great video . From the guy who has stopped and discussed the Deere 214 rebuild.
You can never spent too much polishing a turd, it’s the joy that it brings doing the job.
When I work on stuff, my experience is like yours with this machine. I have to take and put back together several times before I get it right. It's not like I do the same repair over and over. I know when I do get it put together, it's right. Your videos help me avoid making the same mistake a few times.
If you have a smart phone or a digital camera, you can take pictures of how you got it apart to help put it back together.
I am a new subscriber and i am really impressed with how you talk about each item that you feel needs information on. Some i knew about, but you cover things that i learned. Thank you. Like the skits. You have a very nice channel with good content. Keep up the good work.
Even at $500 the repair is still saving money considering even the cheap blowers are running $1000 these days.
Thanks for spending the money on that thing and taking all the time and effort in repairing it Taryl. You are into your fans to do this for us and that's why we're all into you guys. Again thanks alot.
That rebuilt one will probably outlast the new ones made. Still running 2 MTD's over 25 years old a Silver painted 28" 11hp sold thru SAM Club back then and the monster 45" 13hp here in PA and never had to fix anything on them. Those old Tecumseh winter carbs are the best. Been using the 45" to clean a 1/2 acre gravel lot trading the skids for mower wheels on front to keep the stones out.
Nice of you to go beyond the minimum in saving a pretty good machine.
Very good conscientious and thorough job. I'm glad this snow blower isnt going to the dump. Someone is going to be grateful for a good machine properly repaired by an honest guy.
Great job Taryl! Really appreciate you taking the time to showing us grassrats the fix.
U bet he will
Thank you. You may have lost, but you have given a lot to us. Thanks, Taryl.
I always thought the bushings were suppose to wear out first to protect the shaft.
They are, that’s why they are made out of bronze or brass or aluminum, and the shafts are made out of harder steel.
Thanks Taryl. I have been dreading to service my snowblower. I now have confidence ! You are the best.
Like you said you probably won’t get back out of it what you put into it but someone’s going to get a great deal on a used snowblower that was gone through correctly and that will come back to you for good in the long run 👍🏻
Great fix, and worth it.
Scruffy needs an Oscar! 😂👍
That trick of peening over the bolt holes on the belly pan was great, thanks Mr. Dactyl!
You actually diagnosed and repaired a broken machine, just like old time Taryl...
I like.....
Always love your work
Enjoy the tear down and repair putting it back together. Keep making the videos Taryl.
38:03 I don't have a press so, one thing that helps installing bushings or bearings is, to leave them in your freezer overnight.
Taryl fixes all. Taryl don't forget the friction disc🤣🤣
500 that's a steal for a almost brand new 1991 model now. North Dakota snow blower prices are absolutely crazy!
Just like always happens to me with old equipment things snowball and you get in over your head on cost. But you can't give in and quit.
What a puzzle Taryle!
You're a patent man. And you keep pulling the cart.
scruffy is my fav character!
yay taryl getting a lathe
Thank you for showing the welding to fix the shaft.
crazy as it sounds, i think thats 500 better spent than on a new one. i still have my old af simplicity, its a tank and i think i should actually fully restore it by now. it deserves it
taryl your not just a parts changer your a mechanic you prove it all the time you earned my respect friend phil
I think I said some less than kind words for you while you worked on that thing. Seems like everything I’ve ever worked on. Do something then realize you’re should have done something else first so take it all apart yet again. Figure it all out just to never do it again or by the time you do it again you have forgotten what you did last time. Nice video of keeping well used equipment going.
Well, that was lots of fun watching you spend all that money! It’s so much better when it’s somebody else’s money! The one thing that I’ve seen people doing is putting these rubber strips on the impeller to get a tighter fit. Supposedly makes one heckuva difference in wet snow. The biggest thing I found in these old blowers is the impeller shaft bearing on the back of the housing gets worn out and tired. Then it’s hard to get the belt tight and power is reduced to the impeller. Probably only a $10 part but it’s a pain to install. You can test bearing by pulling the pulley straight up, should very little slop here as it’s a ball bearing. It will likely be eating belts too!
Looking good! Thanks Taryl
An often helpful trick for removing steel bushings/races is to lay a bead or 2 of weld on the ID. When it cools, the bushing will shrink and usually will fall out, or be much easier to remove. you can also weld a bolt to the ID and slide hammer out blind bushings.
Gotta love the surprise stuff at the end of a project lol
Bottom line, years of use in the snow and slop and not one bit of lubrication until it got to your shop. Probably one of the worst I’ve seen disassembled. Thanks Taryl another excellent repair video from Podunk USA.
Thank you for showing the struggle and having to start over that's the real life for us shade tree guys
I had one of those old MTD electric start units, 8hp with tire chains. I was a beast but really needed the chains to get anywhere.
Great work as always
That snowblower needed an odometer!😮
Your heat quench trick is about the neatest trick I've learned in a long time! Matter of fact, I was watching a heavy equipment repair channel a few days ago and this guy was working to remove a big broken bolt from a piece of CAT equipment. He had tried a couple of different things then he heated it cherry red, poured a couple bottles of cold water on it and removed it with a pair of pliers. I asked if he learned it from you but never got a reply. BTW, I'm 78, retired equipment maintenance manager and I still love to learn new ways of doing things. Thanks!
I enjoy doing these types of repairs and rebuilds. Tip - Fill that snap ring groove with a piece of copper wire and weld won't stick to it.
Excellent show, Taryl! Appreciate you taking the time to show in detail how all that work was done. And yes, I'm loving the "old school" stuff more every day,,,,,,the new stuff is so cheaply made. Keep that old iron rolling !!!!!
Taryl got it correct !! It's a Snow "THROWER" since there is no air movement to throw the snow !
I can't wait till the next traction packed episode!
Awesome Job! The previous owner obviously didn't lube the drive/sprocket axles and just crammed the lever into place. A little preventive maintenance would have saved Taryl from polishing an old turd. COOL VIDEO for us Snow Rats.
When you have snow to clear it's fire it up and go.
And you’re saving the planet Terrell remember you’re doing it for the planet and showing it can be done
You could probably also put the shaft in a lathe and turn it down, then press the appropriate size sleeve into the old bushing; whichever is easiest and best matches the equipment that available to you.
Thanks for repairing this old one. You can put a ribbon on a turd, but it's still a turd. This one however will now outlast most of MTDs current offerings.
I’m glad I’m not the only mechanic who is machining home made parts! The other day I turned some grade 8 bolts into gauge wheel pins and threaded the ends in my lathe because the customer wants them to last vs the stock softer steel Husqvarna ones! Fine by me, as I enjoy building parts when needed. I’ve repaired more of these old snow blowers than I can count. I can’t believe how little rust you guys have down there though. Up here in the rust belt in Canada, that whole thing is always covered in rust, ceased up and brutal when I rebuild them for customers. A torch is a must have up in these parts.
Best fixer on the internet you show all your mistakes what I love the most! Happy new year to you and the fam!
Not too many years ago I had a frequent customer that tried to service his machine just like that and had that same issue taking the drive out of the machine at his place. He was about down to tears crying in his garage. The next thing that happened is I horrified the hell out of him when I took my angle grinder to it and cut that center support out which now and forever more makes servicing that drive system a breeze. I welded two 90 degree pieces of metal to the ends so it would bolt back into the machine. This time the old timer customer was nothing but tickled to part with the $200 and by the time the storm ended 2 days later with like 30 inches of snow well he's been a bit more relaxed around me these days.. Most of later model MTD machines have actual bearings in there as well. Somewhere I have the boxes with thee part numbers on em
One of the things that impresses me most is how easy it is for you to remember where everything goes back. That would be a nightmare for me.
Always enjoy your videos. 👍
Remember, he's literally filming it!
@@chrisacres Nah. I believe he remembers. He’s a great mechanic.
Thanks for all you do !
Very fine work Taryl, Thanks for the video!
I have one the same but maybe a little bigger. It has hand warmers on the handle bars. I think it's a 7 or 7.5 horse Techumish. The thing is though it's not a snowblower anymore. Somebody put a drum sweeper on the front. That thing works so good. Oh and it has a little button on one wheel hub that you can disengage both wheels from driving making it easier to turn. Thanks for sharing Taryl
Nice work. You have that machine running like butter over the popcorn. That should be good for another thirty years in my opinion.
I have a few thoughts on this. If it was routinely looked over many of those repairs would not have been needed at the same time. If I had a machine that needed repairs such as this there would be some modifications and upgrades made that would prevent wear like this in the future (grease fittings, bearings instead of bushings, stainless steel shafts, etc). And finally, where are you going to get a new snowblower that will last as long for $300-$500 anyway? I have my inlaw's snowblower I don't care what it takes either I will have parts machined at work or come up with something to make it better and repair it. If I have to get parts from other machines and modify them to fix mine I will!
Man, I bet your fun at parties.
I’m glad you welded it up and put that in the video anyway. Maybe not practical to repair on a 30-year-old machine but it’s good to learn these things, you never know when we might be in some sort of apocalyptic event, and the governments would shut down in the world would be in chaos and we would need to fix our snowblower. ;)
You’re right though, we do love this stuff.
There’s your dinner! 🙌🏼
I agree!! The old stuff is a LOT better!!!
Taryl thanks for fixing it. I know it's not worth much but it's neat to see it run again.
Gription..learned a new word 😁😁
Hey Taryl, I have that same Tecumseh engine on my 40 yr. old Craftsman snow blower, and its still going strong. Good engine. Wish they still made them since they are that two shaft model. I dont have a friction type drive set up on mine. I have an actual geared transmission, but it has been pretty much trouble free.
There is/was a 40 year old John Deere 26 inch thrower on eBay with a Tecumseh US made Commericial engine on it. It was at a Goodwill type place setting up the auction and did not say it runs, but I want it - mostly for that beauty of a side shaft engine. wow.
Taryl. when you have a difficult time getting grease off your hands, spray them with a good penetrating oil, that breaks down the grease. I use a penatrating oil made by State called Pen then just good ole original go-jo. The combination works GREAT!!! It removes ALL of it and my hands come out sparkling clean LOL
Scrufffy is not only a fun-lovin dude, but his facial hair is on fleek, on point, and da bomb.... No cap..
Thanks for taking the time and extra cost to polish up that MTD TURD. I got the exact same blower that I bought new in 1991. Just ate through 12+ inches of snow this past weekend without a problem here in WI.
Try a " speedy sleeve" on the shaft.
Thanks for welding up the shaft and all the other stuff just for us.
Thank you for the hard work! Really Helps when I try to fix my own stuff.
Has anyone had Elkskins, umm..."evaluated" for whether or not he should be alone amongst the public? Cool hack with the self-threading screw fix! I had not seen that done before, thanks!
Reminds me of fixing up an old Ariens snow blower. Unfortunately it threw a rod after the first use. Sold it for parts and luckily got most of money back. I put a lot of work into it but wasn't going to replace the engine. It was learning experience.
I’m glad you made this video Taryl because if I ever get one I’m doing like you said , harvest the engine and scrap the rest. That’s a lot of greasy hard work.
Hey Taryl,
Tim here, i'm only 9:30 into the vid, but i just LOVE how you do.........me and Bobaloo, LOVE yer knowlegdge, and expertise, i keep talkin bout Bobaloo, to try to pry yer memory for the B-day vid he did/you did, for my last b-day.......he, his wife, his daughters, as special folk in my life, i only bring him up, as i he's as important to me as water......TY for ur special knowledge of these small engines......it truly is special......while yes i got my 580 hp Darla, YOU SIR are special!!!......I LOVE WHAT YOU DO!!!.......TY for makin u Tube MOST enjoyable!!!.....Peace to you sir!!!
I have the same machine only less worn, it’s the Snow Pro sold by Montgomery Ward. Thanks for teaching me a thing or twelve about the old blower!!
And btw, the old simplicity sitting in the background , also reminds me of the days I did this type thing . lol! It was a simplicity dealership , along with , general small engine / equipment repair . But it’s almost identical to one of the two simplicity’s I own, the other is a newer model , wit hydrostat drive , I bought new in or around 1993 . While they were still owned and manufactured , by their actual allis chalmers parent company , and they have both been tough little machines , and still going today . I’m disgusted to even look at their newer ones . They’re junk as well , and have cheapened themselves right out of existence from what I understand , after being bought and sold several times to lousy companies who sell them on their name only . No build quality left to them either unfortunately, and I wouldn’t want one of them today either !
Great video. You definitely could use a lathe. It doesn't need to be too big.
I gave it a 'like ' and watched all the commercials completely so I hope that helps a little . Thank you .
Great informative video, thanks.
When Taryl went to weld up that shaft I was hoping he’d get tiggy with it.
the tecumseh snow king is awesome, rip tecumseh, wish they were still around
Tthanks For Thinking Of Us Any Thing Helps Us Challenged People Keep Up The Good Work
Thank you.
I had an axle snap on my huge (45") walk-behind snowblower... i bored out both broken ends and inserted the pinnion from the spider gears of a '78 Chevy heavy-half ton rear end.
Still working perfectly today... (and i did it in the middle of blizzard in my single-bay, Unheated, 200yr old Maine garage ~