Briggs TERRIBLE Mistake! Massive Mower Recall! ⚠️
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- čas přidán 29. 10. 2022
- In "The Fire It Up Starter", Taryl goes over this super rare Briggs mower that was only produced for a short time in 1960. It was called a Sonoduct mower and their plan was to try and put the flywheel under the deck to keep it quieter. Does it work? Why was it recalled? Many questions are answered in this hour long how-to video while getting this thing going like it's 1960 all over again!
Prior to and after the fix, local Grass Rat, Elk Skins, has been using his super power to take out locals with power equipment. He has come to be known as... THE FIRE IT UP STARTER. See how it all plays out in another funny, scary and educational video from your good friends over at Grass Rats Garage. And as Taryl always says... There's Your Dinner!! =
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Need some more HV-350. Web site says "out of stock".
@@rcrobinson9529 Fixed it! We have it in stock thanks!
@@TarylFixesAll Great!! TY.
I lost it at "free flowing lox"
Do you have everything on the website in stock at the shop?
My grandmother had one, it sat in the corner of the yard with no cover through 4 seasons. I dumped gas down the carburetor and pulled it a bunch of times until it fired up and cut her grass every summer with it.
Dang!
Dem ole Briggs motors were great!👍
I doubt that and again I'll say it again I seriously doubt that's the one you used
@@Gothguitarist OK guy. Whatever you think. Lol
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I was 14 when this mower was built. It was also the year I bought a used 1949 Cushman Highlander motor scooter. I'm 76 now and me and that old Cushman are still kicking!
Good for you, Tom!!! I ain't fer behind ya !! Go get 'em !!!!
I am also 76 and had a old Cushman Scooter when i was 14-15, later bought a used Sears Crusaire Scooter. Actually the Old Cushman Scooter was well made and would run close to 50 mph. It was much better than a Bicycle and allowed me to travel all those country roads--wish that I still had it. Been Riding Motorcycles and scooters for many years, just recently sold my 750 Honda Shadow...
Being a child of the 50's/60's I never heard of one of these. I appreciate all the things I learn about here at GRASS RATS UNIVERSITY, thanks a million. Taryl, I like your teaching style. It is easy to retain what you show/discuss in each video. I have definitely benefited by watching.
Are you getting your B&S degree?
@@michael931 YES! Majoring in B&S with a minor in Ingenious Junk Recycling
Taryl, you need to make a 3x5 flag with your logo on it! I would be proud to hang that in my workshop! You have saved me $1000’s! I repair my own equipment now instead of buying new. I’ve also become the neighborhood go to guy for small engine repair thanks to you! I have a pressure washer and a back back blower sitting in my workshop right now that a neighbor dropped off for me to fix! Keep posting the amazing videos!
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Awesome video! I think Taryl and all his side kicks should be nominated for an Oscar. His videos sure beat anything out of hollyweird. Always learn something from Taryl, keep up the great work.
So you say they install the undercoat at the factory??
The Oscar is now only for globohomo agenda promotion, not for great acting skills etc.
Cheers! 👌
I think it's definitely a candidate for a full restoration. I also think it's interesting that the deck design is very much like a Lawn Boy with the front corner discharge. I'll bet it gives a really nice cut. Great video Taryl.👍😁
Yea,it's the lawnboy deck,the engine doesn't sound any quieter that the modern engine
Taryl always finds the cool old stuff to bring back to life.
Oh my Goodness!!!
I love when Elkskins is in the videos!!
Love the new haircut 😊
More Elkskins in the videos!!!
I think he puts such a funny spin and balance with Taryl
You could eat an apple through a tennis racquet with choppers like that👍👍😂😂👍great shows👍Cheers from Australia. !
I have a JCP refrigerator manufactured in 1978! Still works!
Wish Briggs still had that muffler. It was one of the quietest I have heard for motors of that age Definitely a piece of history
I generally find using a 'Low Tone' from a larger engine works well
Otherwise the options are limited until you fab something like a motorcycle muffler to your app. I've an Onan powered Miller that sounds sweet with 1 discarded HD muffler mounted along the top corner👍
Exits in direction of controls so is easy to monitor exhaust note.
I tried a catalytic one >Kawasaki, but decided the exhaust note was cleaned too much...
It emitted a clean humid exhaust
🤨Wanted an honest exhaust assessment
Thank Taryl, that carburetor was a trip down memory lane. I remember my Dad working on one back in the 70's. He grew up on a farm and didn't want to drive 25-30 miles to the big city just to buy a new diaphragm, so he cut one out of an old bicycle inner tube. I was stunned that the engine started and ran. It was only temporary until his next trip to the city, but it impressed me.
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Elk Skins gets another staring role!👍
Would love to see the bloopers!
Elk Skins is not to be trifled with. One must never mistake his mild-mannered easy going nature as a sign of weakness. Good to see him in a video.👍
Have you ever seen or worked on a Montgomery Ward lawnmower that to start it! You turned a crank an pushed a button to make the engine over! I had one when I was 6 years old !
4 years ago I couldn't get ten bucks for a 1972 McLean front throw reel mower and a 1974 McLean edger. Original paperwork on both. Both ran. I finally left them on the curb. Took a few days for someone to grab them.
I don't think I've ever seen Elkskins that clean.
Request! Back in the 60's my dad had a rotary mower with a Briggs & Stratton engine and it had a 'wind-up' spring starter. You folded the crank handle out and cranked it to wind up the spring and when you folded the crank back the spring was released and turned the engine over to start it. I don't think it ever worked very well. I wish I could see you fix one of these.
We had one too when I was a kid. Bought at Leonard's Department Store in Fort Worth TX. Briggs called it an impulse start.
I found one of those wind up starters. It’s caked with dirt and rust I don’t think it would ever work again. I might put a little time in it and see what happens.
My father owned a Sunbeam crank-start Tecumseh and it was nothing but a pain. Cut the lawn with it for several years. Self-propelled by a toothed belt off the underside crankshaft and helical-cut steel cylinders that rubbed on the rear tires when you pulled the handle up.
Got a one on a shelf over here in Australia. Weird but does still work. No idea if it runs but one day I'll do a vid 👍
Yep I remember those wind up starters. They were in the early 60s
Even though it was a failure it is still quite the machine for its day
The grease on that tooth pick really helps it slide between the teeth and that carb spray freshens the breath..Nothing like shop breath.
There are 2 parts to the cover. A bottom that remained on the mover and a top that was hinged for maintenance. Good luck on finding them. I've only ever seen one and it was busted up.
One man's popsicle stick is another man's toothpick, we don't judge! Great find, never seen one out in the wild.
When I was a teacher we had a two-stroke Briggs& Stratton vertical crankshaft lawn mower engine that came in. We did get it running but eventually scrapped it.
Great revival. 60 years old and TD brings them back alive. I had no idea B & S made such an engine. Never seen one. I really appreciate TD's decision to maintain originality on this rare equipment as much as possible. I saved as much and renovated as much as I could on my 1948 Ford, and I'm glad I did. It preserves authenticity. Thanks
Wow, what a huge piece of fecal!! Never knew they made a pile like that. Maybe if they'd piped the exhaust down under the deck, it might be quieter. You guys are all hilarious! And Elkskins was freakin' hilarious too!
Standard Lawn Boy’s already had bottom exhaust. So they weren’t super loud to begin with.
Amazing that these dinosaurs can be revived by such an artist who does it with humor and style. One of the coolest restoration videos i've seen.
Elkskins is a natural in front of a camera, so much raw talent. can he sing and dance too?
Well The color is appropriate on that motor .. cuz it seems to be one lemon of a design ! ... Yeah it runs really quiet all right 😅
@29:25 You need to tie your hair up in a cute ponytail just like Mustie's! 😂😂😂
I was 14 years old in 1965 and knocked on doors where the lawn needed mowing.
I would charge $2.50.
I was getting rich.
Briggs and Stratton from Sears.
My grandmother would shake her head at this Sonoduct business and call it “flim flam!” But it’s cool, I’d like to hear it run!
Breaks&Scrap'em, Tejunkseh, Tecnomotor, Aspirin... these engines all have funny names :D
Man!! I wish I had that old DynaMow! It was really cool! Heavy, but cool!
I have a "NEW" in the box "SONODUCT" briggs/ stratton engine( never activated). I worked in a small engine repair shop in the early to mid 70's when these mowers were still in service, and yes we did have some come in that had caught fire with the cover in place, and the customer would not know that there was an active fire until it was too late , the muffler and the pulsa-jet carb with the gas tank bolted to the carb were too close to each other, and would get too hot and go up in smoke, with the cover in place. we would tell the customer to remove the cover!!!!. I also bought the parts for that engine when they were still available. another rare briggs engine is the 1940 mod. "N" that is "WATER COOLED". I have one on a generator( military- new in the crate- never activated)
Hi Gregory, You wouldn't happen to have an extra cover laying around we could get off ya would you?
@@TarylFixesAll , thank you for responding!!!!!, I do not have any covers for those mowers, the only thing that I was aggressive with, was old briggs parts that are no longer available, and complete engines that are used or new/ old stock. I have briggs engines that date back to 1919( when STEVE BRIGGS worked for "A.O. SMITH" as a machinist, and bought out the" motor wheel" from A.O. SMITH, and it became the mod. "P" engine. I have engines from mod. A to ZZ, and mod. 5 to 32 ( cast iron). I also have aluminum engines ( cast iron sleeve blocks starting in 1958 to 1965), with mod. 6, 8 ( 1953 to 1957) up to mod.140000 series( 1955 to 1972). I also collected aluminum engines that have "POINTS/ COND." for spare parts. I am cutting grass with a" 1969 JACOBSEN" mower( that is the newest unit that I have , it goes backward from there) with a" BRIGGS" engine( mod. 92502 code. 6901052) I bought this machine in JULY of 1973(I was 12 years old) when I worked in the small engine repair shop .that engine now has 8,500 hours on it( that includes a 10 year rest from 1979 to 1989), and the bore is at .020 over size starting this past spring. I put 500 hours on it a year, and the engine gets rebuilt every year. I did have exhaust valve stem and guide issues( worn valve stem and guide/ replace brass guide every year) that stopped when I switched to premium grade gasoline( too much alcohol in regular grade gasoline). I tried "MOTORKOTE" that stuff is nothing but expensive snake oil!!!!!. it did not help or hurt the engine!!!! have a great day!!!!!. P.S. STEVE BRIGGS left briggs/ stratton in 1948 to join forces with his buddy "OLLIE EVENRUDE" and they started "O.M.C.", the" lawn boy" mower with the mod. "C or D" series 2 cycle engines were engineered by "STEVE BRIGGS" he liked the 2 cycle engine over the 4 cycle engine( his hands were tied when he was in partners with HAROLD STRATTON who financed the joint venture, so they never developed the 2 cycle engine at" B/S"
That is definitely a Halloween mower, it just looks scary.
That's a cool find isn't Bill, and he's got it going as usual..
@@barryewalt3606 it really is. I am not fond of really old equipment but I would have felt obligated to get that one running
I remember back in the 70s when somebody would pull a joint out of his pocket and someone else with a fire it up fire it up And then we would have a nice evening hey Terrel you have a nice day
I once fixed a leaking gas tank on my 1949 Plymouth using solder and a MAPP gas torch. Worked great (had to remove and thoroughly rinse out gas tank first).
Thanks Taryl for these, look forward to it Sunday morning!
I could hear the sadness in your voice when you said "...battery powered lawnmowers..." ☹️😪
I used to make mower bases for Honda, Greenfields and Victa.
A nice,lazy Sunday and another great Grass rats video.What a wacky design!-Life is good.-Nice of you to throw "Elkskins" a bone!
The Honda HRS21 mowers were short lived but that doesn't mean they totally disappeared. A friend and I seem to come across them quite a bit in our area of Ontario, Canada. Unlike the Sonoduct engine, the fan was actually adequate and quite large. It was more akin to a Lawn Boy with three in one bag, mulch and side discharge and had a shaft driven transmission. They are very reliable but parts can be scarce. The carburetor was plastic (the only Honda product I know of that had it) and could be a pain to reassemble. It's about the same age as my HR214, but Honda still makes the HRS model, which is the entry level machine but you have the option of self propel in the US while the model we have is strictly push. I know you said the Hondas were not great either, but Honda sold a number of them and a good majority still work to this day. The Hondas were an overall better design compared to this. I've worked on them often enough to know. This is a big reason why I still would pick a Honda, Kohler or other Japanese engine over a Briggs any day. Briggs seems to rely on marketing instead of actually building a well built, efficient engine.
The B&S Quantum is legendary and reliable.
Honda has just dropped all lawn mowers.
@@jonyoung6405 Quantum was an okay engine. Working on them is another story. To do something simple like fix the recoil, replace a dead ignition armature or service the auto choke, you have to remove 8-10 fasteners, there being 3-4 different sized bolts, some vanity plastic and the fuel tank just to repair it. Honda? Three 8 mm bolts OR three 10mm bolts or nuts. Tecumseh? two or three screws. That's for the recoil. Granted, you have to remove more bolts on Hondas to replace the ignition coil. Briggs Quantum, in order to remove the carburetor for cleaning, five different fasteners, maybe six, all varying in size. Honda GXV120 and 160? three 10mm fasteners. You don't even have to remove the air filters from the cleaner box.
@@WJCTechyman Thanks . I have a lot of Quantum engines and some new parts for them. They are cheap to fix and repower.
Break and scrap them LOL I love that comment
The deck design definitely says Lawn Boy to me. Another great video!
Not sure who is the creative genius behind these, but they are just great
Next time at the salon, get your hair braided or dyed. Have an arsenal of wigs for different episodes. Get Slippers dressed up as a stylist to do your hair. Will make for a funny intro.
Your videos are the best. Funny and educational. Better than any reality crap on TV.
Great skit…👍👍 & WoW that is something different hopefully you find that cover would be a great piece to see restored.
Awesome 😎.
Always wanted to see a video on the sonoduct!
Good informative video. It was a nice surprise to hear a shout out for my hometown Eden, NY!
It's usually best to drill out plugs/stuck pins of important holes by slowly increasing drill size until just under sized.the remaining crap will push out.
Hi Taryl.
I love old machinery like that. That's 8 years older than me.
Probably the reason it was hard to turn over was it was built before the idea of depressing the exhaust valve a little bit to reduce the pressure to help starting.
This is a reason that exhaust valves get burnt out on older machines that had that "easy" start solution.
There are more modern machines that solved it by when the machines up to speed, the little lump to press the exhaust valve retracts so it stops the valve burning out.
Another great video! Taryl, I have to disagree on the electric power comment. I think for homeowner machines, most people can use an electric mower, weed trimmer, blower, etc. For commercial use, fuel powered tools will be here for quite a long, long time. A lawn crew doing 15- 20 yards a day, can't wait for batteries to charge or deal with the cost of extra batteries going after a couple years, etc.
God blessed you with energy and talent and everyone loves you and your show. I wish I knew you as a close friend but I live in Tennessee and I don't know where you live. God Bless You (Mac)
The best advice i can give r starting any Briggs and Stratton with these diaphragm carbs on the fuel tank top is:
ALWAYS fill the fuel tank to overflowing.
This completely fills every passage in the carb, that bowl...and it softens up the diaphragm..
By the time the engine has warmed up the fuel level will be back down to the cut out in the bowl, the pump will be pumping and the machine will be running well....
I learned to take a propane torch to clean off spark plugs on mowers, chainsaws, old cars. I am convinced that if you had a auto shop you can save lots of money 💰 😊
I love seeing the vintage stuff I work on stuff that is an average of 5yrs or older.
I remember as a kid in middle school we had a small engine repair shop class which I loved. But I remember there was a couple flying mowers with wankel rotary engines and no wheels. But we never got a chance to mess with them
watched to end. That's what friends are for. It's like the joy of 'firing up' my snow machine!!
Delayed gratification. Fire it up! Fire it up!
My favorite month. Well done gentlemen. I love this channel 🙂💯
👍Makes me want to look up the crank up push mower I used when I was a kid in the 60's. It didn't use a pull rope. You cranked the spring up tight then push down on the crank handle and it started.
2:12 ahahah omg that "what??!!!" reaction...perfect!!!!
Chickanic says Honda is calling it quits on the push mower
Been a small engine mechanic since around 1972. I have heard of them, but never seen one before this.
Yellow and white power equipment color from JC Penney. Ooo la la. How masculine
Sure do enjoy it when you get them old ones back on the road, tanks for sharing...
Taryl you should definitely restore it. I look forward to seeing it all shiny brand new.
I've been wanting one of these mowers (or at least the engine) for decades! (Edit - got one 6/12/23!)
You can never say anything bad about a B and S. I pulled one out of a dump once, put in new condenser kit and plug and it worked great! Mowed the lawn with it for two years in South Florida. Learned how to replace piston rings in small engine class but never had to ever do it on an old B and S. Loved them old ones. I never could get one of those Sears Tecumseh engines to run, but a Briggs, never had an issue.
I like seeing the old stuff brought back to life. Even though some them might not be nearly as powerful or efficient as the newer equipment.
Yes! Sonoduct! It's super cool to see one of these in detail. I think this is one of very few videos out there now of these ultra rare Briggs. Rock on Taryl!
That’s awesome to see the old girl brought back to life and mow grass.
I was born in 1960 so I’ve never seen one of these before.
The classic Lawn Boy mowers were the easiest starting and quietest running mowers I used. They did have issues with the muffler filling up with carbon. It wasn't difficult to remove and clean.
That really was pretty amazing, seeing that completely obsolete, obscure, dinosaur breathe back to Life again. Very well done 👏 👏 👏 💥
I use to have a 3 HP Briggs Push Mower that lasted for 20 years-I paid $39 for it from Gibson Discount many moons ago, it finally just ran out of Compression, I took wheels off it and mounted it on a Frame just for Posterity Sakes. I would start it maybe once or twice a year, it had very little compression but would start and run. In last 5 years, I have went through 3 Push Mowers from Walmart, they will not last much over a year and I take good care of them. That old mower did same job as these newer ones and just would not give up--too many Plastic internal parts...
Taryl. Come to portage wi for garden Tractor days!!! Hurry!! This weekend. 7/6/23 - 7/8/23. We’re here today. 😊
My grandpa had an old Dyno Mow that looked a lot like that, but the Briggs engine was upright. Man! I wish I still had it!
Very cool find! I've been on the lookout for the 24" Lawnboy version for some time. While they are considered under powered, they aren't as bad as you'd think. This was before the concept of mulching had taken hold. And with the these big, straight, tangent grass chutes at the front of the mower and dead flat blades, they would handle a lot more than you'd think. They only had to cut the grass once, not process it. All that exposed spinning mass under this one is just crazy though. I wonder how many of those scoop castings came apart at 3600 rpm spraying chunks of aluminium shrapnel? Seemed like a great idea at the time......
this was a good one. i laughed so much my stomach hurt. loved this
Wait, Taryl! So you use that dental pick to clean your teeth and then spray them with carb spray?!!! 21:45 😉😂👍🔧
Man, that Elkskins is one fine actor! It's like watching a scraggly-bearded Meryl Streep . . . I mean, it's like watching Meryl Streep.
I’ve got another odd Briggs and Stratton engine from 1963, it has a flywheel lock and a fold out crank on top of the starter housing.
Basically you lock the flywheel and turn the crank to wind up a heavy spring inside, then unlock the flywheel and the heavy spring cranks the engine over to start it.
Problem was, on the dealer showroom, a customer would lock the flywheel and wind the spring up, leaving it for another unsuspecting customer to walk up and place their foot underneath the mower while not realizing what the knob does, unlocking the flywheel, and the engine cranks over, causing injury to the feet.
It ended up being a catastrophe and they pulled the engines immediately.
I gotta tell you your channel is definitely one of the best.
A retired G.M tech here addicted to watching Taryl fix grass machines.Dystopian...
Slipper in the chipper, "Fire it up, Fire it up"! Fun video.
I have never seen one of those mowers, but know that back when it was being sold, I would never have bought one. Sometimes, good ideas can come from bad decisions, but this wasn't one of those times. I still love the old Briggs engines, they were indestructible.
BTW:
I drove my bosses Edsel Citation back in 1959 when it was new, and for as ugly as it was, it was a very nice car. GM and Chrysler also made the same styling errors back then. I could never understand how GM could have gone from such a winning design as the 55 and 56 Olds, to the abominations of 57 and 58. The designers and decision makers, must have been on a mushroom diet.
Great stuff, I enjoy the actors in your little Playhouse Theater.
My, what a lovely shade of blue that exhaust is.
That’s cool seeing it running! It’s just like remembering that old DynaMow running! Thanks bud for showing us those old machines working!
Elk skins acting is top notch 🤣
Neat mower and I would touch up the paint. Thank you for the education about.
if I ever see one for sale I will just look the other way and be thankfull that Taryl warned me about the problems
For only a 3 Horsepower, it seems like it cut pretty good.
Another interesting video.
Keep doing what you do so well. Very educational. Thumbs up Tyryl.
WOW!!! Great vid!!! What a beaut!!!! Choke'd her just right too :P Good fix Taryl!!!! Happy Halloween to you and the whole gang!!! LOL - love the skits on these.
HONK HONK!!
Boooooo, Junior saved the day Booo. Thanks for posting this neat video, of that Old 1960 JC PENNY lawn mower, HAPPY HALLOWEEN.
I must say, I always enjoyed the Lawnboy deck and am fascinated to see it copied here on a Briggs machine. A normal 3.5 on that deck might be pretty fun to run.
Great to get a piece of history up & running.
Stay well, Joe Z
Neighbor had one in the 60’s first rotary mower I used. I had to get a bigger kid to pull it or my dad. When he replaced it with a Murray 4 hp couldn’t believe how easy to pull!👍
Taryl, I watch all your videos! Give me a Heart!
This skit is a masterpiece!
One of several things revealing the idea was half-baked, on the top crankcase half there still remained the bosses that held the nuts for the air shroud of the regular model. Despite the model's economic failure, at least they were willing to try something new, however misguided. Truly the Edsel of rotary mowers, I'd never seen one before. Thanks!