Postmarks & Cancels
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- čas přidán 6. 02. 2020
- A stamp's journey can provide me with hours of fascination. Let's explore the two key markings that document this journey, from the various types of postmarks and cancels to the ways in which I research and learn from them.
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Great introductory video into the postmark collecting world. Postmarks help the novice stamp collector move into the more advanced philatelist world. Postmark collecting is also the No.1 reason you should join a stamp study circle or stamp philatelic society that specialises in your country. They are invaluable for determining rarity and hard to identify postmarks. If you are unsure of specialists societies for your country, contact the American Philatelic Society. They have a vast network of sister societies to help you! :)
Pinned! Totally agree. Thanks for sharing James :)
Yes, thank you for your video.
I was never a collector who thought too much about the postmarks, until now that I understand what you can learn about the origin of the stamp. Thank you so much for another informative video
I collect both used and mint stamps and I have a lot of very interesting postmarks and covers, in addition to things like unused booklets, presentation packs, miniature sheets, etc.
For example, I have literally hundreds of Great Britain Queen Victoria low values (1/2d, 1d, 2d, 3d, etc) from all over the UK.
In particular I like to collect the many different districts of London, there are dozens and dozens of different places in London and most have there own postmarks (everything from the District, the particular post office and the postal area had their own cancels).
I also have several covers from the 1850's sent to and from my home city and some of the post office buildings and the addresses that the covers were sent to still exist even today.
I love SOTN. !:- ) Long time collecting, still learning.
Now postmarks too :0 I just found a perfect sock on the nose while you were talking. I'm ready to cry, I haven't even scratched the surface of my completely random tightly stacked stamps. Thank you for making it about history instead of money, I would have stopped already ♥
Very interesting video! I don't know how common it is, but one niche I like is collecting stamps postmarked in a particular place. The collector might for example collect postmarks from the place where they grew up, or the place their parents are from, or whatever else is significant or interesting to them. I have just barely started a collection like that, and have a very nice SOTN postmark from the place where my mom is from, and where I spent the first 8 years of my life. Now that I think about it, that was where I lived when I first got interested in stamp collecting! It all makes sense now :) I collected stamps for a few years as a kid, lost interest, and got back into the hobby about a year and a half ago. Anyway, I don't know if there's a term for such a collection, but I do appreciate a nice postmark from a place that is important to me!
I applied caches to envelopes while on a ship. My next job was being a letter carrier and we had a rubber stamp on our sorting cases to cancel unused stamps. Postcrossing is now a hobby of mine and I receive stamp and postmarked from all over the world.
Another great quality video .. Great information ..
After watching your videos, I decided to start collecting Machins. I found a set of Mint Never Hinged 1967 & 1968 stamps on ebay. I was excited to get them relatively inexpensive because the seller did not charge additional shipping to the US from the UK. I also had some anticipation for the products arrival because I was certain the seller would use a new stamp to send them. When it arrived, I was thrilled with the contents and the sellers care. Unfortunately, the post office lazy slashed the cover with a sharpie to cancel it. It is my first letter from the UK and the Royal Mail botched it. 😕 Oh well. There are worse things in life. I love your videos. I am very much a novice but you have helped me in starting my collection more than any other philatelic resource.
I am also a coin collector. My local coin shop carries a collection of philatelic supplies as a service to its numismatists who happen to also be philatelists. A couple of weeks ago, the owner gave me a free first day cover from John F. Kennedy’s Inauguration in Washington, D.C.!
Machins can make for an amazing collection! So glad to see that you have started one. Sorry to hear about the pen cancelled stamps :( I guess it's the Royal Mail's way of welcoming you to the hobby :P
The next lecture should cover international mail. That topic I think is for specialist. Registered mail covers, returned mail for postage due and the various ways it has been handled over the years. All these type situations are a field for discussion in possible future episodes. Keep these lectures coming. I like them a lot and have become addicted to watching them.
Thank you John, great suggestion! glad you are enjoying the videos :)
Great save on the coffee cup! Awesome video, as always.
Thanks for the great video!
I collect First Day Covers, Pre Stamped Envelopes, and Souvenir Covers, and I love how a cancellation (my wife and I call them “chops” because of the action and sound of applying them) can really add to a stamp on cover.
My other collecting area is Australian Colonial Stamps, and I get much joy in researching all the numeral cancels, and finding the towns and cities they come from!
My first serious delve into philately was through FDC collecting and self servicing hand illustrated cacheted FDCs.
Ive heard similar from others. FDCs must have introduced a lot of collectors into the philatelic world. Thanks for sharing!
Another amazing, highly informative video! Thank you
Thank you Chris! Appreciate your support 😊
Just discovered your channel and absolutely love your videos! As if to prove a point about the stories postmarks can tell, the one you showed tells me that I used to live in the same town as you do during grad school 😊 brings back great memories 😍
Another excellent video. Thank you, I learned a lot and You have inspired me to look closer into see me of the postmarks and cancelations on my stamps.
Have not studied the cancellation stamps so this was a nice intro to this subject. Nicely done.
Thank you Christian, glad you enjoyed it 🙂
Thanks for this, it was so well produced and so educational. Just learned so much!
You should do one on stampless covers... where that cover's journey is similarly documented via the cancellation(s) and (multiple) tax(es). Thanks, for another great video!
I don't research postmarks, but when I write a blog post about my stamp collection, I obviously look up information about the stamp image. I don't always include the info that I find, but it can be so satisfying to finally get results after struggling to find anything. That being said, I did share a cancellation on a Marianne stamp from France which happened to give her a very nice beard.
Lol Marianne with a beard! :D Love it!
Another great video, very informative. I'll certainly be paying a bit more attention to post marks going forwards!
Great!! Glad you enjoyed it :)
I loved this video it is great !! I have learned so much and have been a collector for 50 years look forward to watching more of your videos
Thank you Dawn! Glad you enjoyed it, more videos to come :)
Thank you for your well researched interesting videos. We started a brand new stamp club 9/6/23 and meet at the Postmark Museum in Bellevue, Ohio. We plan on showing your postmark video at our next meeting 9/20/23 as well as many of your great videos at future meetings. I have learned so many new things from your videos. Thank you, thank you.
Dave Gill of the newly formed - Fire Lands Stamp Club.
This is such an informative episode, thank you! I also loved your choice for the mint stamp example. The bluenose is, in my opinion, the most beautiful stamp ever produced.
I cannot disagree with you there, I love admiring the details of the Bluenose, a real beauty :)
It's really challenging and fun to identify the history and travel of a stamp. Thank you for this informative video on postmarks. Great video as usual
Thank you! It is very satisfying when you are able to identify parts of that journey when the postmark is a little challenging. Thanks for watching :)
Question please... What are the stamps made of red mercury?
Thank you!.. Do you mean stamp ink or stamp?
I collected stamps in my childhood. I remember once a time a cousin of mine went back from the US, brought me lots of stamps since she knew I collected those.
But as a noobs and lack of information at the time, I was saddened and threw away all those gift stamps. It was because my friend who introduced me to stamp collecting said those were fake.
It's because the cancelations were obviously printed alongside the stamps.
I just knew the CTO thing after I watched this video, 25 years later.
I love being a detective! This goes way back to when I was 7 or 8 and could not find a country named HRVATSKA in my album. This process also made me a believer in an index and a glossary. I can’t wait to try out retroReveal! Thanks very much for the link.
Julia Ross Croatia
Croatia
Two of my all-time favourite stamps right off the bat! Bluenose and Canada's first. Another excellent and very informative video. Thanks mate!
Re: CTOs, I collect them alongside genuinely used examples as well as mint examples. In the early 1980s Belize CTOs constituted a separate orinting on different quakity paper.
There are several Greek stamps with charity cancels for earthquake victims and other purposes, I'm sure I have seen them in other countries too
Your videos are helping me to understand these stamps I’ve recently been given. I’m not a collector and I don’t know much about stamps so thank you for your content.
You are very welcome, glad you are enjoying the videos!
Excellent video. I learned a lot. Greetings from England.
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching in England :)
After listening to your advice...yes! Is my answer.
Another great episode. You mentioned mute cancellations but how wars affected mail could be an episode itself. Patriotic covers, censored mail, the ragged perforations on some WWII era stamps, etc.
I love Postmarks more than the stamps! Abit like passport stamps, it shows the journey a postage stamp and an item mail has taken.
Like yourself, I don't have any Postmarks from any in-transport offices like trains, in the UK up until the mid 2000s each Travelling Post Office (TPOs) on the railways had its own postmark, which displayed the name of the train, direction of travel (to or from the Capital, London) and date within a double-ring handstamp, every now and then a cover will pop up on ebay.
Wish more people would collect postmarks. Found some amazing (not anymore) torn off the whole envelope recently by a stamp shop to make grab bags. I don't have Smith Flat cancel. :)
Another excellent and informative episode!
Thank you Louis :)
Even though I have been collecting for a while I always, and I mean always, learn at least one new thing from your videos. Personally, I much prefer stamps which have shown their journey. I just purchased a cover at auction from 1856 that was mailed from London and sent to Bombay, but then bounced to Aden in pursuit of the person to which it was addressed. Now that's a cool voyage for a simple envelope to take.
Exploring stamps is great and just recently found your site. You are extremely knowledgeable and entertaining for this Old Stamper. I know the world stamp professionals don't like CTOs, but I think they are be rather snobbish. Gone are the days when you can just buy -1- stamp and buying Mint stamps. It is a draw down on my pocketbook & therefore I have so much more Used and CTOs in my collection out of necessity. Too, CTOs are minimally cancelled leaving Today's marvelous face photos nearly completely intact. I find them more pleasureable to view, review & appreciate. True CTOs are way over mass produced in volume (for revenue( & thereby detract in collection value. Yet, if you are interestd in learning a country's history or what that country considers of value to print; it can be very enjoyable
Very well said, there is a lot to be gained from studying and enjoying CTOs. Glad you found the channel, Bob. Thanks for watching :)
Love the 'Jumbo Cover' ! 😍
It’s very cool!!
I have been collecting a long time and never knew so much info or fun can be had. Great presentation 👍
Thank you John 😊
That 1903 archival footage is so neat
It's about a minute long, you can see the full clip here: www.pond5.com/stock-footage/item/120024993-1903-us-postal-worker-uses-cancelling-machine
Very educational and informative.......never knew there were so many types of cancellations.
Thanks Gary! And believe it or not, this is still a high level summary, there is a lot more to explore when it comes to postmarks and cancels 🤓
Excellent job, I learned a lot more and I was happy to see the Lyon envelope that I sent you in this video. Thank you. Michael.
Thank you Michael. YES.... you noticed ;) I was wondering if you would recognize it. Thanks again!!
I prefer canceled stamps by far but since I collect most of them from Thailand, its often a real challenge knowing where they are from. Still, awesome video. Tks
Hehehe SOTN something new term for me, you’re a great stamps educator Graham ❤️! Thank you for sharing!
Oh oh another awesome video from my favorite youtuber. I also love to collect postmarks as well. I even try to make my own postmark lol. I once made birthday cards and then add a stamp with a fantasy cancellation too...
I watched many of your videos and this is most interesting. I like all kinds of stamps - CTOs included.
Thank you Joe, glad you found this interesting :)
As allways extremelly interesting and educational episode. I learn something new with each of your video. i have a suggestion for the next video: You could talk about the importance of the postage and stamps and than visiti BURMA. Why? Because they do not use mail at all. If you want to send something, in 99% of cases you bring your letter to the bus and the bus driver will carry your letter to the next city. The recipient of the letter will be informed and he will wait for the bus driver. Its same if you want to send letters, postcards or even a potato. its 99% cases, its by bus or train. It looks incredible but its working. The only postal office is in the capital Rangoon and several other big cities. Since Burma do not have street names and numbers, they use a different way. Let's say, you are in Rangoon and you want to send a letter to a friend in Mandalay. You go to British post and send it to Mandalay. Of course, you need to write a phone number of the recipient. Once the letter reaches the Mandalay post office, they will call your friend to come and to pick it up. I love stamp and postcard collecting, and if I told them that, they laugh at me because they do not have this culture :)
That’s fascinating Zoran, I didn’t know any of this and will have to look it up. Perhaps this could be a video at some point, I will have to Mandalay!! 😉. Thanks for sharing and for watching the video!
Zambia hasn't issued a postage stamp since 2011!
Thanks a lot, amazing content. Particularly grateful for the CTO bit, up until now I had just assumed they were errors or fakes.
My favorite cancellation is the duplex or "shoeprint" I guess it's sometimes called. I know a lot of people don't like it because it obliterates the stamp, but I like the dark ink and the striking form of the "print", perfectly recognizable amid all the other line or slogan cancels that I'm sorting through. I think they're pretty, is what I'm saying. I'm tempted to try to make a mid 20th century album that is entirely duplex cancels. I also like machine slogan cancels. I'm not really at all interested in mint or unused stamps, because to me the interest is the history, the fact that the stamp was used as currency for transport and that the stamp bears a proof of that journey. I know you talked about CTOs in this video, but I would love to see you do a video about Dunes in particular, even if it might lead to some tomato throwing from the audience. I think there's interesting history there.
Absolutely! The used stamps tell a story 🙌. I like your idea with the duplex cancels, I hope you do it!!
Very informative episode, as always!
One area of postmark collecting that I'm particularly interested in is Dead Post Office (or DPO) postmarks, stamps or covers that have been cancelled in post offices that no longer exist, usually from ghost towns or consolidated rural post offices. I only have two in my collection from the ghost town of El Dorado, Saskatchewan, but I hope to find more in the future!
THAT’S an interesting area of postmarks to collect! I’ve heard of some collectors that also look out for dead post office cancellations. Thanks for bringing it up 😃
I have quite a few Arizona DPO postmarks. I collect them as well :)
I have one from a post office in Fukushima
Thank you so much for this episode! Lots of interesting info, but also you answered a question I was struggling to figure out with my own online searches. I recently acquired a gallon sized bag full of stamps and now have a growing collection of pre-cancels! I've been keeping them together b/c I think they are interesting but had no idea why they were like that. And I've been searching different ways of describing them but with "overprint" as my main keyword. I hadn't thought of "pre-cancels", lol!
I appreciate all the research you do and the enjoyable format you present it in 😁
I'm ambivalent about SOTNs - they're great if you're just collecting stamps...but if you're into covers and postal history it's often better having the cancellation properly "tie" both stamp and envelope together, proving they actually belong...there have been cases of cancelled stamps being affixed as an addition to previously posted covers to help fabricate a scarce combination or type of cover...
This is a really good point. Someone else pointed out that one of my ‘dumb cancels’ on my WWI postcard is not tied to the card, giving some doubt to whether or not it is genuine... I have to agree, a tied postmark/cancel adds credibility to postal stationary. Thanks for sharing!!
exploring stamps showed his own PO box time to send mail for philatelic purpose because that my new corona hobby.
good episode, my France and Swiss collections are predominantly used. Its great fun with low value stamps replacing unclear postmark ones you already have with clearer post marks or SOTN examples. I also want to avoid stamps where boxed or slogan cancels encroach onto the stamp.
I have been colecting these ctn stamps for years
When he almost spilt his coffee
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I bought a pack of 100 envelope corners at the last show. There were so many different types and they were interesting. Could you do a video about different types of envelope corners?
Loved this one. I added several pages to my album just by moving and labeling stuff I already had. My favorite post marks are the ones that clearly show the origin of a letter or package that someone sent to me. :-)
For British colonies I love the website postmarks. Very informative and growing
I have making FDCs and getting the USPS pictorial cancellation which I find to be quite large that it encroaches in my cachet design. Several other cachet makers have also commented that the USPS pictorial cancellation are very wide. I noticed you show a Wonder Woman pictorial cancellation without a cachet.
Great video. Nice desk magnifying glass too. Which brand and model is it?
Scenery is gorgeous. Great video
Socked on the nose, I love that term! I only have a few myself....
I love it too! Philately has some strange terms, but this might be one of the funnest :D
Very Interesting topic!
It is! Thank you for watching, Gary.
Great show and explanation!
Thanks David!! 🙂
Great video!
Thank you :)
A great video! I always save different cancelations. I usually put them on the opposite page in my album where the stamp goes. Likewise, if I use a mint stamp such as the new dinosaur T-Rex 🦖 , ( so you can see the special effect) I always try to have a canceled one too.
CTO’s are not my favorite, but you can see the stamp nicely, I always combine with a stamp that was used by mail if I can find one.
Does anyone know where you can find pen pals that will exchange stamps with you every month? I used to have some really nice pen pals but due circumstances I was not able to continue for a few yrs. now I have time and would like to find pen pals again. 😁
Do you have stamps from Yugoslavia,show them,they are beautiful
The best channel ever. I learn so much every video
Really interesting video, I love cancelled stamps, even that I collect both mint and used.
The used ones show the history of the stamp, but some times is difficult to get a really nice cancellation.
I collect Germany GERMANIA stamps, and I am trying to collect all of the cancellations from that period, very difficult 1900 - 1920.
The UK postal service had a 'Collect stamps' picture cancel which was very fat, essentially turning the stamps into blackened pieces of paper, uninteresting for collecting ;-) I reget that I no longer have a sample, this must have been in the 70's.
Oh the irony! 🤣. Cancels promoting the hobby and destroying the stamps! Thanks for sharing.
Hello! I enjoy watching your videos and good to see that You have new episodes or just basics about stamp collecting, when I was in Bath in Somerset I visited Bath postal museum . really advice to visit . there is nice Art gallery as well
Please make more videos. You are the coolest person in stamps. Cheers from Australia. J//
Will do! More videos are on their way. And I think you are pretty cool as well, Jason :)
Another great show, with a lot of good information.
Thanks Ted, glad you enjoyed it 🙂
Love your videos!!!
You show several precancels from Indiana including Depauw Indiana. Actually Depauw is a private college in the town where I live....Greencastle! Fascinating!!
Very good video Graham,
Suggestion follow up episode: people de-inking canceled stamps, then reselling them. IIRC we had a recent court case about this.
It’s an interesting case and there are several others out there. I show a few of those articles and discuss them in the video about Pen Cancels. 🖊
Hey.. I was eagerly waiting for a video from you for quite some time. Happy to learn about marcophilately.. This is indeed a new term in my philatelic vocabulary. Also i would rather prefer to collect mint postage stamps than used one since they somehow destroy the stamp art that the postage stamp tries to showcase. Also about CTO stamps i seldom collect them except when they are truly pieces of art and irresistible. Thanks again for the wonderful video.
Thank you for sharing Saurav! There seems to be a good mix of comments here of collectors preferring mint or used stamps, and even collectors who enjoy or dislike CTOs. It is interesting! Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching. :)
First, omg! Thanks for telling me about keyboard translators for non-Roman letters! I always have a booger of a time with Cyrillic and East Asian printed stamps. I never thought to search for a translator. When I was sorting my coins. I guessed at which country and coins. It worked but was laborious.
Are you South African? I love your accent!
I just discovered your channel yesterday and I am now obsessed! Great content and I’ve learned a lot!
Thank you for watching, Gene. Glad you found the channel and enjoying the content 😊. Yes I’m originally from South Africa and live in the US now. The keyboard translators and the camera feature on the translator app have been complete game changers for me, they also add to the fun experience. Happy exploring!!
This was an awesome breakdown!
Thank you 😊
Love the episode, I've been collecting postmarks for about 30 years and am currently working on building a collection of Free Franks, I'm currently at about 1500 examples 😂 I'm only 46 items into the cataloguing though because there is soo much information you can find out about the people on the covers. For example I didn't know that most early Free Franks used water colour paints to get the red hues needed for a free frank marking.
Hi, I just found your channel and I have been collecting stamps since I was a child. I look at them, put them back in a box and back in a drawer. Those books you have are very nice, do you use a certain brand? Also where do you get them from? Thanks for your time and I am checking out most of your previous videos as well , take care.
Hello Chris and welcome to the channel. I use various stockbook brands, primarily lighthouse. I also am using the Vario system from lighthouse with a binder to hold the pages. Thanks for watching 🙂
awesome video, yet to get started on my own collection but certainly postmarks seem interesting to me
thanks for the info. It is indeed an interesting lecture into the philatelic world .
I was told by our local postmaster (Susan Elgin Or.) that the bars or lines coming off the right side off the machine cancel to obliterate the stamp are called "killer bars" Thanks Gary
I like having a mint stamp along side a few examples of different cancellations.
Thats a great way to study and enjoy particular stamps or sets. I also have a couple of sets that are mint and used and stored side by side. :)
I love stamps, its my life
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I want to sell my collected stamp
Love your videos. I found them when looking for the best way to remove the self adhesive stamps from paper & yours was the best. Though I've been collecting stamps since I was 8 yrs old, I've learned many new things from you. Can you please tell me where you got the magnifying glass on the stand that you had in this video? Many thanks!
you need too do the Graf zeppelin postmarks :)
I only collect CTOs when they are from the 60s and 70s in North Vietnam. I like the crudeness of them applying on the stamps of that time. I really really hate the modern postmark on old pre-unification stamps of Vietnam
Interesting, I will have to look those up. Thanks for sharing :)
Great channel
I've really enjoyed watching this, awesome info for a beginner like myself, I didn't hesitate for a moment to quickly Subscripts to your channel.
Looking forward to learn more from you.
Thank you very much.
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Very informative, I also appreciate the production work you put in the videos. Please consider doing videos on the value of cancelled vs non-cancelled stamps (why some cancelled are worth more than non-cancelled stamps or vice-versa according to the historical period of time). Also, glue patterns on the back, storage and display advice... Any "technical" and factual aspects are off great interest.
As a child I collected anything and everything used as that's all my pocket money could stretch to. Later as an adult my preference is for mint (unused) stamps, but some of those are so rare and expensive that my budget can't buy them, so used is the way to go for the 19th century issues. In the last couple of years - postal history, i.e. covers with stamps and markings used as intended; a favourite are parcel wrappers and parcel tags and government forms to which high value stamps where often applied, that way I get genuine used rather than CTO. I am, like others, on the lookout for examples of genuine usage on cover which for some issues is incredibly hard to find. Occasionally professional dealers will tell you when enquiring that in a lifetime of buying and selling they have never seen an example of an issue or of a value on a genuine cover. However, usage on forms is not postal usuage. Still it's the fun of the hunt.
So nice one. I love this topic. Will you talk one day about O.H.M.S. and G marking or any other marking ?
Newbie here: loving the videos!
Also i have never seen that clip of the postal worker in 1903 ever. Can you provide me the link to the clip ? I need to show this to my philately friends lol
www.pond5.com/stock-footage/item/120024993-1903-us-postal-worker-uses-cancelling-machine
Thanks a lot. They are as interested in philately as i am so this will be a nice addition to our collection. Dont worry i have already dragged them into your channel lol