Police Only Allowing Gun Permits 1 Day A Week For Only 4 Hours Proves Need For Constitutional Carry
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- čas přidán 3. 04. 2024
- The Wayne Police Department in Michigan put out this tweet saying, "The Wayne Department will be Changing the hours for processing and issuing Gun Permit. Beginning March 27th, 2024, the new hours will only be Wednesdays, 9:00am - 1:00pm"
Yes, you read and heard that correctly. They will only process and issue Gun Permits on one day of the week for 4 hours, assuming they don't take a lunch break.
Clearly, people were angry about this, and they started receiving a ton of backlash, so they deleted the tweet and then posted a tweet saying, "Thank you to everyone for their feedback regarding gun permit processing. Gun permits will now be processed Monday through Thursday, 9am-2pm."
They're still restricting people's ability to get a concealed carry permit to the days and times when they are at work and cannot go to get one.
This goes to show you how much spite a lot of government organizations, even on the state level, have for the people being able to carry a firearm for protection.
This is why constitutional carry is so important. When the government controls your rights, it treats them like a privilege.
They really tried to limit people's ability to get a carry permit to 4 hours on one day of the week.
McDonald's ice cream machine works more days than that, and McDonald's ice cream machines are always broken.
This is why you vote for politicians who support constitutional carry. Any politician that does not support constitutional carry, doesn't deserve your vote because they don't respect your rights under the constitution.
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If you need a permit to exercise a right, it's not a right, it's a privilege.
just like a drivers license and a fishing license , they are just taxes on your rights and you keep voting for the damn government to continue this scam crime
Yeah, it's weird how we don't have to pay to vote or speak, but use the 2nd amendment, though? Out the ass.....
We need a license to drive a car. Even though "right to travel" is in the Constitution.
@@CarlosRamirez-wb7zu good arguement against the requirement of insurance/ liscense to travel as a citizen (Large factor for keeping the poor, poor)
@@CarlosRamirez-wb7zu no a license is a tax, learn the difference
You ever notice the cities, states who make it hard to get a Concealed Carry PErmit are the same states that won't charge criminals when they commit crimes using guns....
Maybe they want everyone to get illegal guns...
there voter base Dem's all ways on the side of criminals
Exactly
The Wayne county Police department is the reason we have the preemption laws only the stake can make gun laws waiting periods etc Detroi passed a training course you had to take to get a handgun but they only made it so you can only go to one gun training company and the waiting list was like 2 years long and they did it that way on purpose the state got pissed and passed a law that only the state can pass training courses that are mandatory and waiting periods that are mandatory before you can buy a gun Detroit's always been an anti-gun City
Or when they do charge them, they can be let out on bail
The Ohio Attorney General did a study and found that after Ohio passed a constitutional carry law, crime and gun violence went down statewide, including in six of Ohio's eight major cities.
The thing is constitutional carry is already implemented in your state constitution no Governor can do that we created the states not the other way around.
After Bill Clinton passed the national assault rifle ban, the murder rate dropped from 9 people per 100,000 down to 4. Explain that.
Not crime; just shootings.
It’s also gone down nationally 20% from 2 years ago and 4k from last year.
I’m pro CC but the study is really inconclusive.
@@hitthecouch I'm against concealed carry because it's against the Constitution I'm not going to ask my governments for permission to do anything.
@@hitthecouchit's f*cking April my guy. Give it time. Everyone knows the hood doesn't get clapping til the hot months
There should be constitutional carry in all 50 states.
technically the 2a is as such.
😮
@@-Nick-Tfederally yes, but the 10th amendment gives the states the right to self govern, sadly
@@shawnjarman9860 i believe self governance is a threshold to the const/bor.
not exclusive, meaning one could file suit against a state for violation of rights?
@@shawnjarman9860 State laws are not allowed to supersede the U.S. Constitution. There was a massive failure on the legal system's part when they started that garbage.
I interpret the 10th as being those things not already covered by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. I think that's precisely what it means.
Man should not need to ask for permission to be free.
If you have to ask, you're not ...
I will NEVER ask.
Buckle up. Things are going to get spicy soon
Your not free you never are and you never will be
“We can’t process your constitutional right in a timely manner. Please do not object to this infringement or you will be red-flagged. Have a nice day.”😊
This is essentially what Dr Martin Luther King was told by the authorities when he applied for a gun permit after his house was firebombed in the 50's.
Word!
And this is pretty much what Dr. MLK was told when he applied for a gun permit after his house was firebombed.
The real red flag is that they impose a permitting process in the first place.
Don't ask permission, all it does it put you on the list.
The 2A is my permit, and after the courts ruled an illegal immigrant has a 2A right to carry I no longer care about states permission slips
True dat!!!
That was appointee by Obummer himself. 😅😊 in the state of Illinois. They do not speak for us. Hopefully the Supreme court will strike it down
Agreed. I carry when I need to. No matter where I am. Period. I’m not playing that game
@@fishmonger7020Now if only there was a way to reliably beat metal detectors, not for mischief or crime but keeping folks safe past that metal detector
@@wtconroe879just dont go to places like that.
Sounds like infringement.
But they took an oath
By the very DEFINITION of the word “Infringement” it is exactly that. So is any place not allowing you to open cary and it is the law of the land that the government, at any level, is breaking that law. I support our right to- (and will defend with my life)- the right to own and bear weapons to specifically take an armed stance against our own government as it Has already become a tyrannical power over us.
We the people need to forcibly, if necessary, keep our government accountable to us and our constitution.
We also need to make sure that these pundits stay true to the purpose of the 2A.
Yet I do not hear ANYONE stating the RESPONSIBILITY of WE THE PEOPLE to use the second amendment for that purpose. Why? Because the government now rules over WE THE PEOPLE. And everyone is terrified and too cowardly to take the very stance we are SUPPOSED to take should ANY GOVERNMENTAL POWER OVER STEPS IT’s POWER-TO INSURE WE THE PEOPLE STAY IN CONTROL OVER THE GOVERNMENT. That is the very purpose we have the 2A.
This fact only shows that WE THE PEOPLE have long ago FAILED in our responsibility to MAKE SURE WE STAY IN POWER OVER THE GOVERNMENT.
This happened in 1860s during the Civil war and again in 1913 when we allowed our government to take our money and grant control over it through a private entity.
IF we will not use the 2A for its intended purpose, we no longer deserve it and have by proxy and cowardess, nullified it. So what it is ?? Come on answer me please. Why is everyone afraid to use it?
it is.
@@rickb1387 every other country has no issues with guns being banned yet you guys cling onto the old ways for dare life
Clueless Whitmer is a horrible Governor. She needs to take lessons from Governor Kristi Noem
Yea, Whitmer can call Noem and have the same dental firm do some work on her so she can run as Biden's VP choice.
Actually, her and every Democrat needs to be taken out of office for their attack on the 2A.
G̶r̶e̶t̶c̶h̶e̶n̶ Wretched Whitmer
all politicians are horrible, kristi is another authoritarian, you know she signed a hate speech law right? or were you asleep?
You spelled it wrong. it's whitler, not whitmer
I used to live in NY, and on the application for a permit, self defense was not a valid reason in their eyes to concealed carry. Now i live in SC where we just passed constitutional carry and its a beautiful thing
As of February, if you don't already have a CPL, a purchase permit is required from the county sheriffs or MSP to purchase a handgun. The office at the county level is not open all the time, so having a background check run is by appointment. It's not only a hassle for the buyer, but for the police as well. They don't get money from the state to keep a person available to run checks all the time. This reminds me of the old purchase permit and inspection card scheme they had back in the 1990's.
The supreme court overruled that, the case is called Bruen I think.
A Right delayed is a Right denied.
Guns aren't a right they are a privilege just like they are in every other country
New Miranda Rights: "You have the right to remain silent, but only after you pay a fee, receive training, and obtain a silence permit. Anything you say is wrong."
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
Don't need any paperwork to do that, the 2A restricts the government, not the people.
You always focus on "Shall not be infringed" but ignore "well regulated." That's why nobody listens to you.
@CarlosRamirez-wb7zu being on the channel, you should already know "well regulated" doesn't mean "overly and poorly regulated by the government".
Nobody listens to you when you don't even know the definition of "well regulated" let alone who the right to keep and bear arms belongs to. Here's a hint, it is "of the people".
@@CarlosRamirez-wb7zu Well regulated was understood by the authors of the Bill of Rights to mean to be in good working order, and only applies to the militia because it's part of the prefatory clause. The peoples' right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Well-rounded teachers being necessary to the education of a free country, the peoples' right to buy and read books shall not be infringed. Who has the right to books, teachers or the people?
The PROBLEM with this whole 'infringed' thing is that NOBODY CARES. I mean, we care, us 2A supporters; who doesn't care and who matters a lot is the general public, john q. What the general public is particularly susceptible to is issues of race, and, baby, the whole HISTORY of gun control is check full of it. You see, THE first gun control in N. America (possibly the world) was enacted in VA, 1680 by slave masters to render black and indigenous people weak and vulnerable. That law spread as the population grew and the US was founded. Just shy of 200 years later, that's 2 CENTURIES, roughly 8 generations of gun control enabled SLAVERY. Then, after the Civil War was supposed to stop all of that, the so-called black codes wrapped around gun control evolved into jim crow which laster ANOTHER 100 years. It took the Civil Rights movement of the 1950's and 60's to finally address that; yet, we deal with all of those issues even today. AGs and governors/legislatures around the country are citing those old slave laws to justify new measures. ALL gun control is racist, and all supporters of gun control are bigots. These facts win debates with anti-gunners all the time, USE THEM.
The PROBLEM with this whole 'infringed' thing is that NOBODY CARES. I mean, we care, us 2A supporters; the people who don't care and who matter are those we refer to as the gen publc, john q. What the gen publc is particularly susceptible to, though, are issues of race, and, baby, the whole HISTORY of g/c is chock full of it. You see, THE first g/c in N. America (possibly the world) was enacted in VA, 1680 by slv-masters to render black and indigenous people weak and vulnerable. That was it's PURPOSE: weakness and vulnerability. That law spread as the population grew and the US was founded. Just shy of 200 years later, that's 2 CENTURIES, roughly 8 generations of gun control enabled SLVRY, we had a Civil War. Then, after this Civil War that was supposed to stop all of that, the so-called book of black codes that was wrapped around the core principle of g/c evolved into jim crow which lasted ANOTHER 100 years. It took the Civil Rights movement of the 1950's and 60's to finally address that; yet, we deal with all of those issues still, even today. Take note: AGs and governors/legislatures around the country are citing those old slave laws to justify new measures. ALL gun control is racist, and all supporters of gun control are bigots. These facts win debates with anti-gunners all the time, USE THEM.
What if "they' limited voting to a 4-hour window on election day only? Yeah - that would fly.
Don’t give them any ideas
Oddly voting is a privilege, while protecting yourself and your family is a God given right.
@@jk-kr8jt I would suggest that since the "electors" are identified within the Constitution, voting is a right and not a privilege. That, and the 15th and 26th Amendments kind of cement the notion of voting as a right held by citizens, by adding it clearly to the supreme law of the land, i.e., the Constitution.
imagine limiting abortions to only 4 hrs a week. they would burn the city down.
@@SCSlimBoiseIDAmericans should be voting on policies not politicians, that’s where the FF got it wrong
This is the reason state, and local governments need to be barred from regulating firearms and self-defense rights.
They are.
@@mtnbkr5478 We can only wish I suggest you go to NYC with a firearm and tell them they are barred from doing anything to you. Let us know how that worked out for you.
@@ij2750 The fact that criminals break laws doesn't mean that those laws don't exist, it just means that the People who are supposed to be enforcing them, haven't.
@@mtnbkr5478 I can agree with you to a point but what federal law states that NYC cannot regulate firearms. I would think that if such a law exist someone would have brought charges against NYC way before now.
@@ij2750Nobody in New York fights for their rights because they're all too broke to sue.
Nationwide constitutional carry.
Already got it
@@wtconroe879 We do not.
Approved as supreme Law of the Land on Dec. 15, 1791.
Funny, sheriff office in Florida are giving free gun safety training.
ours has free safety, and open shooting range day for mothers on mothers day. It is 'sold' out every year.
Awesome
MAN THIS IS CRAZY STUFF.
WE THE PEOPLE NEED TO START STANDING FROM THIS STUFF. WE NEED TO START DOING WHAT THEY ARE DING T US. FIGHT FOR OUR RIGHTS.
Unconstitutional and tyrannical! Hell to the no!
I concur it's sickening the answer is constitutional carry
Michigander here. Love your content!!! This is not for CPL applications. This is for a license to purchase a firearm. In Mi we used to be able to go to our FFL, purchase a handgun, drop off your purchase permit issued by the FFL to your local PD within 10 days of purchase. Now non-CPL holders must go to their local PD/SO get a background check, be issued the Purchase Licenses, go to the FFL, Get a NICS check, then you will be able to purchase the firearm. Note this is now for ALL firearms, not just pistols as before.
Michigan is a shall issue state and open carry state.
@@powderdays7557 correct, this new law is not for CPL applications. It’s for a license to purchase a firearm….
@@DetroitEMT313 yes I agree.
Jeez I thought Commiefornia was bad.
@@hellodrjeckyl Michigan is falling. I’d recommend anyone with the means and ability to leave.
We already have constitutional carry it's in the Bill of Rights in your state constitution.
A permit violates a law book called BLD 6 and 7 edition a permit is a licensed a lien and is seen of doing illegal activity
Constitution
Laws created by a sovereign that govern a corporation created by a sovereign.
of which the police are violating.
Do they not understand shall not be infringed upon it's why they put it in black and white when Bonnie and Clyde were driving around doing their stuff but they talking about taking guns then no they were talking about getting the murderers off the street
I live in Michigan. Ten years ago, everything was fine. Holy hell have things spiraled quick. Vote, people. *Vote.* And do it *every time.*
Yes, one very concerning infringement after another, especially the latest set that just went into effect
Thank Ann Arbor, Lansing, and Detroit and their thousands of imported Democrat voters.
@@oblivionsa7973 ooooooh I'm aware. But also there are many ambivalent non-voters on both sides. The trick is to get the ones who don't vote on the pro gun side to vote. Voting truly does work, but it don't mean a damn thing on our own. Numbers win.
Attention all anti-gun people think really deeply about how much you gripe about voting IDs you even suggest that some people can't afford or find the time to acquire an identification card AKA a driver's license or a state license despite the fact that those bureaus are open as a full-time job and you can go on weekends now look at what we gun owners have to do to just have our basic constitutional freedoms
lol, these are the same people who cry about police oppression and want the police to be the only ones to have guns at the same time. It’s an inability to comprehend and instead they just whine. No capacity for critical thought.
The problem with “passing” Constitutional carry, is that it’s still the government saying “ok, you can have this gun permit.” They can easily later on say, “well, we passed another bill that repeals Constitutional carry.”
We’re creating precedent for the government to step in.
Constitutional carry, requires no permit at all you don't even a paper permit. but you would need a permit if you travel to another state. this is why people are pushing a Nationwide Constitutional carry, you wouldn't need a permit to carry in another state.
WE have Constitutional Carry. THEY don't want to recognize that WE have CC.
We are American, we can carry what we want, whenever we want, however we want. 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
We are New Zealander we don't have to send our kids to school scared they might not return we don't have to worry about being held at gun point by criminals we ate New Zealanders we don't have to be paranoid of our government 🇳🇿🇳🇿🇳🇿
@@ELIZABETHMARLONE2005 ukraine said the same. Ask them how it worked out.
@@soulessvalleys8404 sure Ukraine poked the bear that is Russia by allied itself with you
Michigan is getting like CA, NY, NJ, MA, etc...... Michifornia....
Still a ways to go
Yeah not even close it’s the 2 big welfare counties that have a large number of people who shouldn’t have a vote they already made bad decisions that’s why they’re on welfare
You guys are losing state by state
@@danielvaldez3778 Michigan will be red this Nov. It's a swing state, always will be. Michigan has only one city that votes blue, the rest of the state is Red
That honestly sounds like a pretty kickass drink, unfortunately it's just bullshit gun control
Thanks for covering this, I’m from Michigan not far from Wayne in Flint we carry here
Not reasonable at all🙄 I live in CA. I go through stuff like this. All the time🤣 constitutional carry, in my opinion, should be in every state
Definitely Consealed carry should be universal in all 50 states for sure
They should be replaced with people who will do the job and uphold constitutional rights of citizens.
They should also be dragged into court for the following charges at least, fraud taking money to do a job and then not doing the job description, aiding and abetting the violations of constitutional rights using tax dollars to fuel their crimes free, embezzlement, misappropriations of funds, violations of oath of office, violations of police policies and procedures, and being in possession of a loaded firearm during the commencement of a crime. I'm sure a decent lawyer to come up with quite a few more charges to add to this.
I live in Oakland next to Wayne county. This isn't for conceal carry. This is the permit to purchase a gun. The new laws here require a non CCW holder to apply for a permit to purchase 1 gun. Requires a background check and is valid for 30 days. Then when you go to the gun store to purchase the gun you have to get the normal background check. For me there is only 1 location in Oakland and it's an hour from my house. It really is unconstitutional.
Thank you for shining light on the BS that’s going on in Michigan CN
Infringements at its highest
ANYTHING to prevent law abiding citizens from having the ability to defend themselves.
This is the way. 2A
They will never stop. Thank you.
i live in PA and the hours of my sheriffs office were the exact same as my work hours. good thing i work at a good company cause i just drove there in a company vehicle while still punched in. the hoops and jumps are QUITE ridiculous. stack up or eff off. thanks.
Amen, Brother
"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests."
- Patrick Henry, a Founding Father and Virginian
More Constitutional Carry Sheriffs need to be elected!
Abolish the 2nd amendment for officer safety? Thin blue line flags?
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s a Native born Michiganian I can assure YOU they are violating not ONLY the mich Constitution, the Federal Constitution AND STATE LAW! They are going to have to dogs--t sued out of them!
I'm from CT. I just got my permit last month in March. was told it would be a 4month wait which turned into a 10 month wait until I finally was issued my permit. None the less I did receive it. Very thankful 🙏🏾
Carry always for your protection no matter what a bogus law says,your 2nd admendment gives you this right and your life may depend on it.
The 2nd Amendment nor any of the other amendments in the Bill of Rights give us rights, they acknowledge the innate inalienable rights we have and are limits placed on the government to not violate them, or else.
@jamesorlong innate inalienable "right", you quoted it yourself.
_"Your 2nd Amendment right designed specifically to give you legal authority to defend yourself from the government, is no longer allowed."_
Said the tyrannical dictators.
Permits are unconstitutional. Every human being has the right to own and carry any weapon to defend themselves, their loved ones and their property.
MADNESS!!! This…Is…America!!!!!
It's worse than you think. I live in the county next to Wayne County. A friend of mine lives there and apparently you have to go to downtown Detroit to register!!!!! Have fun trying to fit that in your work day!!!!
Makes about as much sense as a ejection seat on a helicopter or a screen door on the submarine.
Every time I watch a video like this about a restrictive government entity keeping their people down, it makes me extremely grateful I live in Western Nebraska!
Wait till they bring back the “thing”.
That’s just madness
I appreciate people like you, someone has to call them out 👌🏾
My local PD only takes applications on Thursdays from 9am-12pm and you HAVE TO CALL AT 9AM to get on the waiting list. If it's 9:05 your out of luck. Also, I got in there and they schedule me for 3 weeks out. Ridiculous.
SHIIIIT HERE IN NYC I’LL EVEN TAKE THAT!💯
I have a permit in Florida it took about 2 months for the first one. I will keep it up because of carrying in other no lefty states.
Florida is a constitutional carry state . But you need a permit to carry out of state
This incident highlights the urgent need for constitutional carry. Our rights should not be subject to bureaucratic whims. Let's stand firm and support politicians who uphold our constitutional freedoms!
It’s like this in most counties…Madison county Ohio has been like this and the surrounding counties as well for as long as I can remember. It’s sad but they do what they can to keep us down but I believe that ppl are finally recognizing this.
Markus with a k checking in
The only permission you need to own and carry a gun comes from God, our natural, human right to be capable of defending ourselves, our loved ones, and our community, with the most effective armaments that exist. If it's an armament that exists, it is by right an armament we should be free to procure without infringement. Don't matter if we buy it from someone, or make it ourselves, we don't need the government's permission. Not needing permission is what makes a right a right.
The simple fact is that the US government has never had any authority to restrict the ownership or possession of arms, period.
It is time to end this debate. Every gun law must be repealed, and the government must be told "No. You don't have the authority.".
So we should just allow children who aren't fully developed mentally to purchase full auto firearms and bring them to school? While I agree some gun laws are absolutely stupid, there's a reason gun laws exist as a whole in the first place.
My wife and I waited 11 months for our CCW permit in Guilford county NC. She was a few weeks pregnant when we took our class and submitted our paperwork. We were able to create a human being faster than our local government was able to recognize our constitutional rights.
How do you spell INFRINGEMENT?🙄
Every gun law is an infringement.
The police department was promoted by Brandon and his regime
I love your concert. I’ve been watching you for sometime now and your compassion and words should be translated across all people.
The Wayne Police Department needs to be held accountable as oathbreakers. It's crime and everyone enacting this sedition needs to be held accountable.
You don't need special permission to carry a weapon. Any law that prohibits a U.S. CITIZEN from carrying a weapon of any kind in the United States of America is an illegal law and cannot be enforced. That includes laws that say you cannot carry a concealed weapon. Because those laws violate the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution of America.
Come on man. Your a lawyer. Act like a lawyer. Grow a pair and let's sue every city and state that has illegal gun laws. Let's bankrupt them and take away all of their money.
It should also state : Women who are in fear and have a restraining order in place. may go to any police station 24 hours a day, seven days per week if CC is not available.
I keep my CC active even though it is not necessary in my State. I made an appointment, had no waiting time and was in and out (with electronic finger printing and my Gov't issued ID good for 5 years in less than 1 hour. The CCW also has firearm purchase advantages in my State. 😁 I'm with you, but until there is a National Policy.....you need to protect yourself in states with reciprocity.
Please come to Australia to wake people UP about our right to defend ourselves ❤
Many cities in Michigan do the same thing. One day a week to get a permit. The signed permit has to be returned on that day also. So if you're late, you're waiting until next week. Huge motivation to get your cpl.
Having lived in SE michigan ( Macomb county) i am not surprised wayne county tried to pull this crap.
I'm from Michigan. This is not for concealed carry permits. They recently passed a law that if you don't have a CPL you need to go to your local police department and get a background check to get a permit to purchase a firearm that's valid for 10 days.
Wake the heck up Michigan!!!!
You really need to look into CT, some towns 2 days a week 4 hrs each 9+ month wait time for folks who never broke a law. Some towns have been getting better though. Which is an improvement! 👍
We need this in Michigan!
dude, you are wonderful! i'm so glad your logical brain is on the side of us patriots.
Here in Orange County NY you can wait for appointment for 6 months, in then you will wait another 6 months for the process
I live in Wayne County, I have my CPL . I personally know during covid appointments were 9 months out to apply for your initial cpl for a couple family members
In Louisiana we have open carry law. Starting July 4th 2024, we will have constitutional carry. I'm glad I don't live in a state that is trying to ban guns.
hope someone files a federal lawsuit over this.
Constitutional Carry ONLY!!
Keep your name off any list!!
Something similar in my town in NJ……
All applications involving firearms are assigned to a specific Officer ,And he schedules dates and times to accept payments and so fourth…..
Years ago there was a Clerk who handled that and it involved more steps but it was very Pro-GUN
How many permits do you need …. No problem …. Protect yourself and your home
Our right to bear arms shouldn't be subject to arbitrary limitations. It's concerning when government agencies hinder our ability to exercise our Second Amendment rights. Let's support politicians who prioritize constitutional carry and respect our freedoms.
This type of thing makes me glad I live in Idaho but scares me for the future, everyone needs to band together against this type of thing even if it dosnt affect you rn
I could be wrong but I think what they mean buy "gun permits" is a permit to purchase which went into effect on Valentines day this year. Which means if you want to go buy a handgun in Mi you need to go to a police station/sheriff office and receive one permit paper per hand gun you want. This permit is limited to a 30 day window in which you take it to the gun store in order to receive your gun. These purchase permits are then taken back to the police department for registration. Sounds more like they only want to print off these permits during certain hours of the day. I've heard of police stations with lines out the door with people trying to buy handguns.
I remember Michigan when you didn't need a permit. I bought my 30-06 in Midland back in 1976. My uncle Bill and my cousin Jimmy who later became the county sheriff. And I didn't live in the state.
A co-worker put their app in for their LTC permit. They got the soonest appointment which was 4 months later. Today was that day. She was told she should receive her permit in 6 months. I’m not kidding or exaggerating. She literally went this morning after already waiting 4 months from application to appointment now 6 more months to receive her license
What she just did something illegal because of permit is asking permission in a law book BLD 6-7 and is doing something illegal
She hasn’t done anything illegal. That’s just the bullshit permit process here. She has never been in trouble ever
Thank you Colion for keeping us up to date! God bless brother
If those were the hours for voting people would be up in arms about how it disenfranchises the most vulnerable.
You forgot to mention, Wayne co Mi is Detroit!
So glad I relocated to the great republic of Texas last year from SE Michigan!
When every permit goes through the county clerk and theres only one county clerk. Once you get through that it's the same deal at the sheriff's office
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City of Taylor in MI did this for years. It isn't new in that area. Wednesdays 9 to Noon was the only time the records department was open. If you had a job, you were basically shut out of the process. To be clear, these are Purchase permits (RI-60) which are required in MI for non-CPL holders to purchase handguns. Many people get a CPL not to carry, but rather to get around these ridiculous time restrictions. Carry permits are applied for through the County in Michigan, but authority was pulled back from the County to the State Police on whether or not something prevents issuing because County CPL review boards (Wayne, Oakland, and Macomb in particular) would slow walk or require in person review for ALL CPLs despite the State law being "Shall Issue." In practice they were making it "May Issue" so the legislature stripped the County level authority to refuse.
Colin's complaint about 4 hours per week (as long as there's no holidays or sick days or special mandatory training or political rallies) is why I oppose mandatory training for gun owners: the certification process can be ONE instructor on ONE day per YEAR with as small of a class size as the certifying body can get away with for four hours of a mandatory 80-hour class, and no person will be allowed to attend that class more than one time but quarterly training is required...
One four-hour day per week can be "by appointment only" and the appointments must be made 90 to 180 days in advance.
What ever happened to YOYO (you're on your own) --ignorance of the law is no excuse? Private citizens are not sworn law enforcement officers, not agents of the State empowered to execute warrants. There is no duty of the State to educate and train private citizens. There is a requirement that State agents be educated in the lawful execution of their duties and trained in the necessary skills. The State cannot be sued for an individual citizen's actions, deliberate or committed from ignorance. Agents of the State are acting for the State and when those agents misbehave, the State is at fault.
I'll argue that if the State takes on the responsibility to license only those individuals who have completed state-approved training, then the State is liable for any misbehavior and the licensed individual has qualified immunity as long as that individual followed the rules. "I claim self-defense" means a shooting board and not a jury trial--police who flunk a shooting board THEN go on trial. A shooting board is not a trial, it's not even a Grand Jury hearing. Mandate training for concealed carry of firearms and a shooting board composed of at least half NGO board members (shooting clubs and neighborhood watch organizations) can decline to prosecute proven self-defense cases.
We won't have any more George Zimmerman or Kyle Rittenhouse show trials as long as those met the legal requirements to have a loaded gun at the time and place that the self-defense shooting took place.
Thank you...
I have open carry in my state. When I applied for my carry permit. The Sheriff actually called and thanked me for doing this before signing off on it. He wished more people would train and do the same. (NC)
What State?
thanks for the update
Exactly Colion!
Ridiculous
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