RTX 4070 Ti SUPER vs RTX 4090 - How Big is the Difference?
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instead of getting 4090 and 4k monitor just get 4070 ti super and 1440p monitor same performance and twice less money with almost no visual quality loss :D
Why 7800x3d is not getting 5050mhz?
+50% performance and +125% price, not a big deal
nvidia scammers
It’s a big deal
@@happybuggy1582 not a big deal
@@AntiGrieferGames It’s a big deal
@@AkuGantengCuy for price side not a big deal
4070 Ti S vs 4090 - performance difference in %
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Forza Horizon 5 - 43%
Horizon Forbidden West - 48%
RDR2 - 44%
Cyberpunk 2077 - 59%
Alan Wake 2 - 56%
Avatar - 69%
Hogwarts Legacy - 59%
Starfield - 48%
Microsoft Flight Simulator - 49%
The Witcher 3 - 52%
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Average FPS - 53%
GPU Recommended Price - 100%
Your comment deserves much more 👍 ❤
@@thethirdplace421 thanks ❤
Cyberpunk 2077 - 79% lol 51fp v 81 ??????
@AkkayHT228 The logic of an id..t.
4060 recommended price 299, 4070 ti super - 799. + 167% to the price.
4070 ti is super faster than 4060 by 110%.
Conclusion? Is 4060 the best card? No... It's just that your IQ is lower than 60.
4K at 120 FPS?! Damn what a dream
4080 will get you 110 fps at 4k.
Just on fg and dlss
@@MrOranj not even close . Like 95
@@MrOranjsame shit right?😂😂
i do that with my 2080ti in Hogwarts Hogsmeade , the entire town , turning camera doesn't matter , smooth and stable 120fps 4K
using 8700K 5Ghz , 32 GB ddr3 , 2080ti...
even flying through the forest it doesn't move on bit
Lossless Scaling on steam now has 3x frame generation , so i could get 180 fps with the same settings ...
but this is stable and just fine ,
i could even turn on the frame generation from the game itself and get me to 360 FPS , if i wanted , all in 4K
just with a 2080ti
As badly as I want a 4090 - thanks to your videos (this one in particular) - I'm sitting on my 3080 TI and will pass on the 4000 series. Thank you so much for showing us these results!
3080ti in vietnam so rare i hope i have 1
instead of getting 4090 and 4k monitor just get 4070 ti super and 1440p monitor same performance and twice less money with almost no visual quality loss :D
@@xxx333mmm Unfortunately I went from 1080p HDTV to 4K HDTV. Call me crazy but I really like one massive monitor/tv. 3080TI will do easily 4K @60fps -- but 4090 is so tempting. Maybe once the 5000 series comes out we'll have more options to power 4K.
@davidbauer3146 the 3080ti do not 60fps anny triple A games at ultra settings 4k native no dlss crap😂 in anny games past 2022
I will buy 5090 and 4k 240hz / 1080p 480hz monitor
yes sir do more of 4070 ti super!!
Thanks for the amazing benchmarks!! Can I please ask that you also put the % difference between the benchmark fps of the cards for each game at the end. It gives more of a clear idea how much better one card is than the other.
I support this suggestion 🙏
Truth is the 4070 ti super is enough 99% of the time when compared with the 4090. The 4090 is also 3 times the price.
3 times the price? Where do you live? It's less than double the price. More like 80% extra.
@@nossy232323 2.2x more the price here
@@nossy232323In Pakistan:
4070ti Super costs $1,000
4090 costs $2500 atleast
@@nossy232323no it’s more than double 800$ vs 2000$ 😂
In uk 4090 = 1500£ FE
4080 super = 960£
4070 ti super = 820-900£
I just bought the 4080 super
So 50% more fps
for 150% more money and a added chance to melt your 12vhpwr cable
seems like a good deal
You mean 60-70% more FPS. But 2000$ is still to much for 4090
@@Zedix704 No. only 50%. and cheapest 4090 you can buy is $1799. 4090 should cut $200 price and sell for $1399 not something like $1799+. Do your math. 4090 is the worst value 40 series card so far.
@@KelvinKMS sorry my Bad. But 4090 is litteraly 60% faster.
@@Zedix704 53%, not 60-70%
GPU gaming flagship should be max at $1000 in every generation forever and ever. Gamers are not supposed to build some NASA station PC.
Still sitting on my 2x TUF 1080ti and I’m not gonna change them till it works❤
That's my favourite card .
I have 2070s but I love your card
The RTX 4070 Ti Super is the perfect 1440p card, able to do 4k
Best budget for 4K gaming!
My main takeaway is if you have a 60hz monitor, there's almost no point in getting a 4090? More fps is nice, but the 4070 Ti Super is totally playable in all games. Except for Hogwarts Legacy....
your comment is useless. if someone can afford a 4k+ pc they'ed deff could afford a high end oled moniter.
@ProfessionalInstagramHaterHere there are people that I know on fixed income that have to wait months for lower end pc components so I think your just a little bit off on your assessment.
In my country 4090 is 2.5X price of 4070 ti super. So not worth it unless you dont have budget constraint.
4090 is worth $1399 now. so anything over $1399 is overpriced.
@@KelvinKMSFor instance in Poland: RTX 4090 costs from 7662 PLN ($1928), RTX 4070 Ti Super from 3517 PLN ($885). 4090 ~2.18× more expensive than 4070 Ti Super.
For comparison, average salary in Poland: 7445 PLN ($1874) gross, i.e. 5405 PLN ($1360) net.
@@KelvinKMS Yeah, because you are a marketing genius who exactly knows what price they should ask 😂😂😂
I returned my 4080 for 4090, and I am glad I did cause I got 30% raster improvement, but RT performance uplift is significant. Great video anyway!
Yes. but 4080 Super is much cheaper which makes 4090 a more terrible value card. One of the worst-value 40 series cards you can buy. For example, 4080 Super you can get at $999 but 4090 lowest price is $1799. so it is 80% more money for 30% performance. If you don't care about losing money, go for it.
4090 is only worth $1399 now. 4080 cut $200 already. 4090 should cut $200 too.
@@KelvinKMS Nah, you wouldn't be able to pay for one. It's not a card aimed at you.
@@KelvinKMSthere are people who don't care about pricing because they have deep pockets. For some, 2 grand is just a spec of dust in their pockets
@@KelvinKMS life isn't always about saving money
I like to watch those comparisons and I have two conclusion from those...
Never before High End GPUs significantly outperformed other cards in terms of cost and performance like todays beasts.
RTX 4090 is absurdly expensive but in the same time Mid Range was never as good as today...
Mid Range cards from this or previous gen are good enough to play games in ridiculous settings like for example... I can play my favorite games in 5120x1440 in even 120fps in almost all high or ultra settings.
It's like... 12 years ago 1080p was great, 1440p was superb resolution and 4k was far ahead future and now it's like 1080p is standard or even no one uses it any more and new standard is 4k...
Maybe I'm exaggerating a bit, but I feel that today's PC parts is getting old very slowly and allows for a lot more and for a lot longer than PCs from 2010s
1080p is basic resolution today, 1440p is standard or in most demand. 4k is future and its alot taxing than 1440p. everyone shud b on 1440p atleast to enjoy latest gpus.
I don't see the need to play at Ultra, High is enough and the RTX 4070 TI Super would work perfectly. But it is understood that it is to see the difference.
yes no need to play at 4k either, 1440p is enough
You guys may think 30 fps isn't a lot of difference but in fact it is actually a crazy difference, 4k it's not 1440p or 1080p, still overpriced tho.
But the price difference is a lot. So.....
@@chrisevans2375Even 4060 and 4070ti super is 30 fps difference so go buy the 4060. I am fed up with people with your mentality. Just buy the card that provides the performance at your budget
4090 is insane. i wonder if 5080 will be comparable
5080 will be a disaster if it isn’t at least 20% faster than 4090.
@@004vamsi From what I've read, it will be roughly around 50% faster. Supposedly they're using new GDDR7 memory, the 40 series is still on GDDR6(x). Also apparently budget is back with the 50 series in the 5030/5050. Time will tell.
5080 will be around 30 % faster than 4080. 5090 will be 2 5080's on one PCB in chiplets. Probably around 30 % faster than 4090. Just my personal prediction.
5070 will be comparable, like 4070 compare to 3090
@@Sims64340 If a 5070 is 4090 then it will cost more than a 1000 dollars XD
Clearly much better performance for the 4090 for an extra 100 watts in power and currently 2x the price.
should include 1440p too
Меня лишь один вопрос интересует... Что за магическое охлаждение стоит на 4090?? 50-55 градусов в 4к на максималках. Как такое вообще возможно????
msi gaming x trio
@@TestingGames О, спасибо, пойду гуглить :D
@@TestingGames бля, так это ж сама модель карты) или она такие темперетуры на родных ветиляторах выдаёт?
Bought 4070ti at launch. Biggest mistake. Wished it was a 7900xtx or 4090. Will swap it out for a 4090f to the ai
Me too haha. Might get a 4090.
what is this water cooler??
Xbox One is the OG water cooler
I rather buy a high-end card, it last easily 3 years before i need to change, But rtx 3090 probably the first to break 3 years old and still overkill on 1440p. until RTX 5090 drop, rtx3090 is more than enough
same - 3090 here and feel no need to upgrade to 40 series at all
high end cards are waste of money.
Ad dlss and FG and you Are Safe with 4070 to super
Harry Potter looks amazingly unremarkable for the way it runs.
@@RicochetForce It really just seems like another money grab.
@@RicochetForce I didn't even know anything about till I started seeing it recently in gaming benchmarks but I have yet to see a review pop up or anyone actually talk about enjoying it.
Funny to see, that even the 4090 can't provide stable 60FPS in certain games
It is not 4090's fault. It is all trash poorly optimized games. If you play some online games, you can run 4K 60+ FPS easily. so don't play trash games.
@@KelvinKMSyep
@@KelvinKMS I see that you are still clueless as fuck. Bad optimisation only applies to some games, not all games. Stop spreading bullshit.
Onde se consegue dinheiro para isso? Fazes doação de um PC desses?
Bruh... there is always the third and the best choice, AMD RX 7900XTX. ❤
4070tis is as weak as expected.
It's a 1440p vga not 4k
@@freo2997 definetely 2160p.
@@freo2997 4K 60FPS card.
А без DLSS слабо ? Где чистый фпс а не дорисованный
4070, 4070 super, 4060 ti and 4060 seems the only good affordable ones.
all others like 4070 ti and higher are literally waste of money!
4070 ti super gonna be my next GBU for sure , king of 1440p , and capable for 4k .
With custom settings 4070 ti s can reach +80fbs in 4k easily.
What happened to your letter P?
@@ZS2802 reminding me for the letter p means that you know what I mean . BTW thanks 🙏🏻
@@alwaleedmohammed9515 فشلتنا الله يفشل العدو
@@ZS2802 It got pregnant
Ballpark 30-50% faster. But interestingly, the 4070 Ti Super is nonetheless a card that gives playable framerates at 4K.
Improve your maths, it's literally 50-60% faster. In every one of these games its at least a 50% jump.
@@dhaumya23gango75 Ah, no, it really isn't.
the one thing i will say is its not just about the fps from my 4070 ti to my 4090 i got a huge lighting and graphical increase as well games just look so much better on the 4090
To play a fluid game you only need 60 fps forgot the rest i always lock at max 65 fps
gtx 1050ti vs arc a 310
Best combo 7800X3D + 4090 ever!
@youtubepidari Wrong. I have an RTX 4090 + 1440P 240 refresh OLED monitor + 7950X3D and most games are still a bit bottlenecked by the CPU even with everything maxed out and no DLSS.
@youtubepidari Well their you have it: your monitor is the bottleneck! Of course the GPU and CPU are fast enough there. The bottleneck I get mostly only shows up at 180+ fps like e.g. Battlefield 2042 with everything maxed, including ray tracing. I did get the OLED exactly because I prefer a quick screen that has almost no input lag and has a high refresh rate. Not sure why you say things like "bragging" or that I "'am lying". I have this system that I upgraded from a 6700K + GTX 1080. Because of COVID I was not able to upgrade sooner, and I put a fixed amount of money aside each year for my hobby. So now I was able to get a PC which costed way more than want I normally spend on it.
@@nossy232323 The 7800X3D beats the 7950x3D in almost every gaming benchmarks. So i would agree with Harris K
@@DovahVokuna That is no longer the case. Watch the video from Hardware Unboxed from 3 days ago. The 7950x3D is a hair faster than the 7800x3D. And if you know how to use the 7950X3D, it's always a bit faster than the 7800X3D, because if you run it with only the VCache chiplet it clocks a bit faster than the 7800X3D.
@@nossy232323 i always watch multiple. One can have it wrong. Multiple the chance is smaller. But I didn’t see his video to be fair. And I believe you.
Brother , Intel xess 1.3 . Comparison with fsr 3.0 mod
lmao no
@@donnie4645 why not ?
beautiful video. 😍
if you can pay 800 dollars for this graphics card then you can also pay 200 dollars more for a 4080 Super in my humble opinion
Your opinion make sense it’s either 4070 super at 600/700$ or go for the 4080 at 1100/1200$
@@m4ruan-117 RIGHT!
actually there is not only $200 gap. it is about $300~$350 gap if you choose better brand and cooler design. so 4070Ti Super is a much better value card so far.
@@KelvinKMS maybe where you live… because in Italy/Europe the 4070ti supee it cost 800€ while the 4080 super 1000€ so is not worth to lose the 4080 super for 200€, the 4070 super is 600€ which the price is making that GPU the best on the market right now (2024)
Not willing to pay 2k for a graphics card, I bought a 4070ti when they first came out, so it was already 1k. Never again 😆
In ur opinion do u think I should buy the 4070ti and is it worth getting it
@@MC_starz Depends on what your card now is.
@MurrayDagostino well it's a rtx 1660 but I'm going for a 4k budget so there's no way I'll be able to buy the 4090 as over here where I live costs 2k and I heard that 4070ti will do the job but I don't know u see
Do you want 30 more FPS ? 1000 € more pls
R7 5700X + RTX 3060
It's big.
4090 would be a no brainer if it would be 700€ ;)
делайте тест правильной версии ведмака, а не последней
4090 should be 1300-1400$
This is why 1080 P is still the best resolution to play, more frames baby!
In 3 years from now I will still be playing in 4K with my 4090, cant say the same with a 4070
Cope even the 4090 struggle with getting 60fps 4k in some games
@@Gcity67k Clueless
any way in 4090 too. atm 4090 run 20fps or less ark ascended in 4k ultra.
@deliriousacidman6762 yes a very small amount of games but the majority of games the 4090 is playing at native 4k.
This video is on high graphical settings correct?
Yes the games are tested at 4k.
@@MrAnimescrazythank you
4090 should at least be double the performance
No that's the 5090.
5090 will be 120% faster than 4070 ti s. Thats crazy.
@@Zedix704 and it will be triple the price
@@lethanhtung4972 I think and I Hope 2000$
4070 is. not 4070Ti Super
4080 is the best option. I get 112fps at 4k in Forza, with extreme settings. If i want more fps, I turn something off. 4090 is a rip off. 60% more cost for 30% more perf.
4090 is $1799 you can buy. not $1599. so it is 80% more money for 30% only.
i would agree, Only here where i live the 4080 super has the same price as a 4080. So i would pick the super
I wouldn't say its a rip off its still quite a difference however the price is what kills this gpu and makes it obsolete we saw games that kill this gpu performance.
@@gamingcomputers7485bro, the 4070tiS makes the 4080S pointless lmao, 15% slower while being 25% cheaper, unless you have an fps counter the performance loss is unnoticeable (59 vs 66fps, 120 vs 140, etc) unlike the 4090 vs 4080 which is almost the jump of dlssq
@@RicochetForce if he xtx is a lot cheaper, but for 900 its also a no go, honestly the gre is as far as i recommend a radeon
Just 30 fps more on average?
Those 30fps more on average turns into 60% performance increase 😁.
@@notenjoying666 50%
It's a huge increase when fps are relatively low.
@@nossy232323 but price difference is more than 100%. You can just turn on DLSS 3.0 and FG to reach same FPS as 4090.
@@KelvinKMS Were I live the price is 2X, but you are right, if you want the best price/performance card getting the RTX 4090 now makes no sense. But that doesn't mean isn't a good deal faster than the RTX 4070 TI Super.
But the power draw though
Who the f cares about power draw
Подарите мне нищеброду 4090, всю жизнь благодарен буду
honest i bought a 4090 and i feel like this isn't a big enough difference for 1k extra
keep complaning im glad i go my 4090 used for $1400
Yup I am glad I have my 4090 and I don't have to worry about any game I play.
Why it is so cheap in my country cheap rtx 4090 is like $2110 xd
@mateuszpawowicz258 he got his 4090 used not brand new. I'm sure you can find a 4090 for less than 2,000 dollars either used or open box.
Yep. Been thinking about an eBay one for 1400 bucks. And I was gonna buy a 4070 ti super new. For ~300 bucks I can get a better one with a 30 day money back guarantee from eBay itself.
@sirob584 yeah get the 4090.
4070 TI S very good. If you take 4090 prepare 700-900 euro more for 4k120hz monitor/TV as well. So the real price increase is not 1000, but 2000.
There are monitors at 500 USD 144hz , 900+USD are oled ones at 240hz
@@Chuck15 27" yes, but imo for 4K you need at least 31.5"
I think it’s not fair to compare both 70ti s and 90 on the same gbu , 7800x3d is not the best pair with 90 , and possibly could be the best pair with 70ti s ..
CPU *
Both cant deliver a smooth 60fps experience at 4k with pathtracing. What a joke gpus.
When I was working towards my animation degree 20 years ago, I had the fortune of rendering my first ray traced image. It took 6 hours to render.
We have come a long way. But honestly, I'm not surprised at the ignorance of the casual gamer.
@@christophejergales7852 who the fuck cares about raytracing, no one even uses that, its a marketing trick, we gamers need frames, we need stable frames without frame drops we pay thousands of dollars for pcs and oled 4k high refresh rate monitors and in the end we get crappy frames, fuck all of the modern video game developers
At 4K you use DLSS Quality. You won't see a difference between that and native and you will get 60 fps. There, I fixed it for you.
AMD can?
Something is not correct. I can run Hogwarts Legacy on 4k with my GTX 1080 ti with 60+ fps. Why 4090 cant?
Are you playing at native ultra settings with everything or almost everything maxed out?
@@MrAnimescrazy yes
@@eduinmigrante782 you would be getting 20 to 30 fps in native 4k unless if you are in less demanding areas of the game then maybe the fps would bump up.
$1200 for 40 more frames
The rtx 4070 should've just been the rtx 4070 super but with 256bit bus and 16gb of vram and at the same $600 price ($500 ideally).
Just remove the rest of the rtx 4070 gpu's. And take the 4060ti, make it a 12gb 192bit card and price it at $330. Would roughly match a 3070/ti. Solid for the price.
And make the 4060 a 4050ti and give it a 160bit 10gb config and just cap it to 75w. Make the current laptop 4050 a 128bit 8gb gpu and also cap it to 75w. Then just release 90w variants of both later on.
Right now the entire gpu stack is screwed up
I prefer playing 1440p on over 100 fps any game maxed out and half price...4090 pc is 3000 euros and 7800x3d with 4070ti super PC is 1500 euros
1200$ +30 fps 😂
Hogwarts Legacy has no business being that ridiculously demanding.
Alan Wake 2 and cyberpunk running maxed out here with pathtracing are far more demanding than hogwarts with raytracing. But for some reason he used dlss quality + frame gen in AL2 and cyberpunk but ran hogwarts at native resolution.
@@dhaumya23gango75 Hogwarts is fucked.
Rtx 4090 max 1300-1400$!!!
I am From India
everyone is
india is the worst country of the world
Аз пък съм от България 😊
And?
india worst country in the world
And happiness was so close rtx 4070 ti super 😆
Gentlemen. Most of us play on monitors up to 2k resolution anyway, so gpu 4090 I'm useless. I mean if needed for work then ok, but for gaming money wasted. I can get by just fine with my old amd 6750 xt for 2k gaming. The vast majority of us can get by with a gpu up to a max price of 500$ anything extra is pointless as it takes developers time to optimize new titles into playable form.
U know 4090 isn't a gaming gpu
It's vram is too overkill and it increases the price by a lot
16 GB is the best for gaming
youtubepidari the 1080ti is already 7 year olds, you dont even need 11gb vram for full hd gaming nowaday, the 1080ti cant handle 2k gaming.
@youtubepidari with your "Custom game" I think even the 24gb vram still not enough. Stop saying non sense.
@youtubepidari we talking about normal gaming not custom gaming. It based on the player. 11gb of the 1080ti is more than enough for full hd gaming.
@youtubepidari I said 11gb is enough for full hd gaming not 4k gaming. Are you idiot?
youtubepidari 1080ti cant even handle 2k, why do you force it to handle 4k?
Man 4070 ti super is garbage next to 4090 😂
4090 is a fucking scam boosted by content creator
How is it boosted by content creators when the performance of the 4090 speaks for itself. You can't be this stupid. There are comparison and benchmark videos all over youtube.
4090 is 1.5 times faster with 2.5 times more price. Go figure the rest yourselves.
4090 only worth $1399.
No DLSS = dislike 👎🏽
Grow the fuck up. It's not just about DLSS. Raw performance is also a big factor in GPUs. You have said this in so many videos. Stop fucking trolling.
Same Nvidia graphics why only 2077 use dlss 3
Дороже в два раза но не мощней в два раза
instead of getting 4090 and 4k monitor just get 4070 ti super and 1440p monitor same performance and twice less money with almost no visual quality loss :D
the 4090 already struggle at 1440p on ark ascended
If You have money to spare go for high end
Almost no visual quality loss between 1440p and 4K? There is a massive difference between 1440p and 4K in visual quality. This CZcams comment section is full of clueless clowns.
@@Gamer-q7v if you are far from monitor there is no difference
@@mhg890 Yes, it's much harder to tell the difference then. With a montior, though, you will likely be sitting much closer to it, and that's when the difference really starts to be noticeable.
3:09 why does the 4090 looks warmer and the 4070 ti duper super looks cooler? can anyone help me