You forgot to mention the fact the subscription comes with access to Google Play Music which is a music streaming service like Spotify. Hank Green pointed this out, and said that the price for Spotify and CZcams Red are the same. So as long as you don't mind the slight differences between Google Play Music and Spotify (though the majority of the same content), you could just replace your Spotify subscription for CZcams Red and get a music streaming service and all of the other CZcams Red rewards. Personally, I cannot afford $10 a month subscriptions (I also cannot afford things like Netflix) so it's not for me. But I was convinced by Hank's argument.
+Dixavd Hank makes a very good point! Something I should have said - anyway for me the main selling point is being able to get rid of ads and allow teachers and parents to do the same.
+Ted Fitzpatrick I beg to differ. While Spotify may have more music than Google Play, the addition of CZcams with Google Play adds far more content than their competitors.
+Jacob Garner in low quality though, Spotify has full album rips but CZcams has amateur 240p wankstain quality singles and Google play is probably one of the worst paid services I've ever seen with its content. Spotify has David Toop's rare albums and strange avant garde singles that I consistently can't find anywhere else.
+nekogod even if they make onlyl few videos for youtube red still sucks ! if i am sub to some 1 and want to watch his videos then i want all his videos and not watch some and then some do not ! maybe if only the pay thing is just for special project movies and shows like netflix then maybe caus i wont care then ! but thiis is just the start and once there is $ in the game it will get deeper and deeper
+nekogod Well if they do it would be a bad idea for the creators. They will actually make more money if they allow non CZcams Red subscribers to watch videos. Thats because they'd be making money from both subscribers and advertisements. While shutting your videos off to Red subscribers will only give you the Red money.
CZcams Red is a great concept, except fo the whole human propensity for greed thing. Being a paid premium service with the ability to display CZcams Red only content, it seems like it may well be a death knell for high quality and accessible "free" content on regular CZcams.
+Youblixuous I understand this concern but I hope that CZcams remains free for everyone forever in its current ad-supported form. I think there would be a backlash, that I would join if the high quality content became exclusively available behind a paywall.
+2veritasium Thank you for responding to my comment. I too believe there would be a backlash if more and more high-quality content became exclusively available behind a paywall, but I feel that backlash would come from content consumers and would mostly fall deafly on the money muffled ears of content creators. CZcams Red provides a nice incentive to create CZcams Red exclusive content as opposed to regular CZcams, which is rightfully necessary for the model to work. If the incentive is there, however, people being people will attempt to maximize its usage to maximize their profits. This means lower quality content and more intrusive advertisements on regular CZcams. I do hope I'm wrong in this regard, but history has shown us otherwise time and time again.
Its like saying you shouldn't get paid for doing what you love. Just naive. Work is work. And getting paid means more reward and incentive. Anyways to add, I would imagine that the youtube red exclusives would be more like Timed exclusives. If you aren't a youtube red user you won't know that the video came out a week ago so it will be procrastinating as usual, nothing changed.
+Youblixuous It may be the case, but as I recall CZcams Red distributes the money based on, at least in part, watch time, so I guess it depends also on how many people sign up for the service, if 90% of your subscriber base are Free-To-Watch (FTW, which should totally be a thing!), I'd think you would benefit more by producing higher quality free content. My main concern is availability of the premium content in different regions. Since it's only in the US now, it means the rest of the world is excluded from said content, which in turn poses the same problem as the old-school TV distribution. Even after they do a global roll-out, would a premium subscription in, say, Thailand, have the same amount of (premium) content available compared to one in the US?
***** Maybe or maybe not.. either way, without youtube red you sure as hell wont click a video just to be told that you can't watch it because you're not a premium member. I think that in itself will be annoying as hell.
+David S. do not brag too much about adbloock or they will get it removed ! there are already few sites that adblock can not block adds in them ! its only still working becaus not too many ppl useing it
+David S. But when you use AdBlock you take away revenue from creators, it's essentially a selfish option, unless the Ad is Ty Lopez, always block Ty Lopez.
don't be a douchebag. all these people are putting a great deal of effort to provide you with free on-demand entertainment for you. the least you could do is watch 5 seconds od ads every now and then
+zorkan111 watching the 5 seconds of ad and skipping is the same you have to watch 15-30 seconds for it to count so your the same as people who use ad block
+Russ Abbott But then it would force channels to make longer videos because people wouldn't want to pay any amount (yes, even a penny) to watch for instance 5 seconds film. It would majorly fuck a lot of channels.
+Russ Abbott As someone who doesn't listen to music all that often the whole google play music bundle seems like a bad deal for those who won't use it. they should probably make service that is only the youtube part for 5$/Mo or maybe even 50$/Year...
+YipYapYoup the actual model with ad per view already disadvantage long videos, because they need more time to make them than short one. so it could balance the thing since not everyone will pay for this.
It's content that no one would've been able to see without CZcams Red. Now with it, the people who are willing to pay it can see it. It's not a catch.
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I don't mind the ads... since i'm old (45y) i've learn to live with ads... what i don't like is "ok... you have a choice normal youtube with ads and Premium, no ads and more contents".... do we really have a choice?? It feels more a menace than an option.....
The "premium" side of YTr isn't that great---you're not missing much yet. I used to watch a ton of YT the normal way, with ads, and now on the YTr app I feel like I'm able to watch waaay more videos in the same amount of time.
Fuck yeah Thats the thing men these greedy people are turning internet in a place where are two people: free with ads/"premiun with no ads and exclusive conten" fuck that shit.
+Amine Birouk donation ! like they need $ youtube makes billions ! they are jsut bigger fine bros need more we should not support greed ! you got your free shit let other ppl like netflix and others do thier stuff ! stop trying to take over the whole internet
Amine Birouk youtube does not want that ! they want the $ so they make big shows ! and become internet TV ! and also i do nto like donations ! becaus they get abused alot ! takeing few $ from kids and thousands of $ from rich ideots ! it will make the youtbers do not care anymore about views or anything but pleaseing thos big donators of thiers just like the Politic system in USA ! where donations abuse the policies ! or on twtich
+Leo Wattenberg (LEOXD) How the fuck is this optional if Derek is using more time creating Red videos and less time creating videos for everyone else? If you don't have red you will eventually have less videos. So no, it's not an option. It's a farce.
+Leo Wattenberg (LEOXD) The beauty of youtube is that it's free for all and that it's content is shared worldwide. CZcams will soon lose it's beauty and soul ; youtubers priority will be to make the exclusive content for youtubered ,maybe not at the beginning but after a while it will happen for sure. I am from a country of modest means and I won't be able to subscribe to this shit even if wanted to (not everyone is from the US) . I wouldn't mind if this was just to get rid of the ads , then it's optional , but the problem is in all the other bullshit. I believe that youtube as we know and love will be soon gone.
Lordidude He cannot make Red-only videos, unless CZcams invites him to do it. zonkolbox Paid movies have been available on CZcams since 2011. As long as >99.99% of CZcams's videos are free, these couple of premium videos don't matter.
+Jake Wallace exactly, I mean, why should anyone get paid for anything they do, if everything would be free it would be so cool, imagine walking into market and just taking everything you want. What a perfect world we would have.
Yeah, let's make the people who make you get hours of fun for free stop getting any rewards because you are too lazy to press a button after 6s of waiting... That's the spirit bro!
yes i and many other people hate ads, but i would hate paying $9.99 a month for what was originally a free service even more. Having used youtube for many years the number of ads and their show times have dramatically increased over the years, since the unveiling of youtube red, ive only seen that number increase. More people need to treat youtube as a hobby/passion and not a reliable source of income, it doesnt improve content, it only makes us free users put up with more ads. Having to sit through a 30 second ad for a 2 minute or less video would have been ridiculous a couple years ago, yet it happens today all the time... with people making youtube their source of income, they have essentially been put on a dog lead.. wouldnt you support a premium service if it increased your income? we need to voice our complaint now before they force even more ads on us free users in an effort to get us rolling out $10 bills/month for something which was originally free to use.
Gabriel Rodríguez Gutiérrez oh i wont pay, but i also dont want more ads showing up for people who dont either, how are you meant to do that without voicing opinion?
+mikeunleashed1 Nobody said you will get more ads. You are just making suppositions. If there starts being more ads (and I mean serious data studies, not "I think I have more ads now than before"), I will complain with you. Until then, this idea looks fine for me
B..b..but CZcams has not been free for ages. There's almost nothing free on the internet (unless it's donation-supported, exclusively... and it's really rare that stuff like that works). When you're told it's free, YOU are the product. Facebook sells your information. CZcams sells that you watch the ads (etc etc). I'm fine with paying and stop being the product.
And then content will slowly move to be "premium exclusives" and free users will have a worse version of CZcams than we have now. And I bet the free version will get increasingly more ads. If you want to support a channel, do so using patreon, rather than paying for a service that will not only encourage CZcams to screw with its free users, but will also give money to content creator you don't care about.
The now multi millionaire. Who had to kickstart to fund his creation, instead of spending his own money or raising capital in a more conventional way which would require repaying is in favor of a paid CZcams service. I'm shocked
I don't know what veritasium exactly is using, but the CZcams stabilization algorithm is pretty good. There are some really interesting papers about it on Google Research.
+Taran Van Hemert He said in a previous video that he is using an action cam with a gyro because some people were getting nauseous while watching his 'walk and talk' videos. He did not specify which camera though.
There was an old iPhone app that was removed from the App Store a few years ago called "McTube" which would let you download videos, play them in the background, and didn't have ads.
MAN i really can't stop thinking about how great you're being to the people on earth!! congratulations you are making an amazing job! you are making us THINK, something very needed these days! A huge thank you from all of us at Brazil.
Yep, i have subscribed using your link.. i watch a lot of youtube videos and yes, the ads sucks in between..And i also love your channel, your videos and its also one of the reason i subscribed to RED using your link so that i can contribute something to you.. :) Keep making lots of videos.. Thank you
+MindlessShowCase Red will have exclusive content, that's their way of making sure you can't just use AdBlock and have the same experience, but it screws every free user at the same time. This is the death of CZcams.
+YipYapYoup Exclusive content is produced and published by CZcams. Are you saying Netflix is horrible for having Netflix only shows while the other platforms have the same concept of paying to watch TV shows? Your logic is flawed.
Koby Dunham Not at all, because Netflix doesn't have a free alternative, and the content can't be produced by anyone. CZcams is for everyone, and you wouldn't expect movies or TV shows on it, so I have no clue why you're comparing the two.
YipYapYoup CZcams already has TV shows on it. You also have to pay for those. CZcams also has movies, so I think I already expect movies & TV shows on CZcams. I'm comparing the two because Netflix is funding TV shows that are only available on their platform with their subscription. What is CZcams doing? Funding TV shows that are only available on their platform with their subscription. They both have funded movie projects too. What's the difference between the two, sir?
+jpchevron Yeh, because wasting your time on random ads that give the CZcamsr a pityful amount of money is totally worth it. And by doing that I don't get subconciously manipulated to buy stuff (of course that's an hyperbole, but the point stands).
I did a free trial for CZcams Red, and I have to admit, that was an amazing month. I really can't subscribe to it, because of financial reasons (i know it's a small amount but I have difficulties) and I can't wait to sort everything out and subscribe to it
I'm so sad that YT Red isn't available in Iceland, "Mat Pat"(The Game Theorist) has "Game Lab" for paying users only and I REALLY want to see those. :c
Availability and price are the two worst things about youtube red. Besides not being available where I live, because of currency exchanges, it would cost a lot here
+Gabriel Rodríguez Gutiérrez true, but even Hank Green has said that it doesn't generate that much revenue and that there's better ways to support your favorite creators if you are financially able
I'm not saying that CZcams Red is better for supporting than Patreon for example. I'm just saying that adblock prevents them from getting money that they could invest in their channels (as many of my favourite youtubers do)
+Gabriel Rodríguez Gutiérrez You know you can simply turn off AdBlock when watching a video made by someone you want to support, right? There's no excuse to not use AdBlock.
Adrian Fahrenheit That is absolutely fine. But most pages and videos a visit/watch I do because they offer me something, either free knowledge, fun, or just games. If everyone turned ads off those pages would close because they wouldn't pay themselves up, and I don't want that to happen, so I don't care about getting a few ads as long as the people who benefit me get something on exchange. That is one reason not to use adblock
9.99 a FUCKING month? fuck that I'll turn adblock for free. download videos? I can do that for free. playing stuff in the background on mobile? that should be FUCKING free. we've wanted it for years
salem hjouj I have. From a Creator's standpoint it's amazing, from a viewer's standpoint it's pretty awesome, too. No ads is great - and it goes for all channels managed by my Google account. And then free Google Play bonuses, too. Nothing wrong with it, whatsoever.
It's a job for alot of people though. Sure, it's a hobby for most, but yeah, like streaming, it's a job for quite many. inb4 longass raging and discussion about this subject
Job: "a task or piece of work, especially one that is paid." CZcams creators put work into their videos, and google (youtube) pays them for it. It definitely qualifies if a job, even if it is a bit riskier than other jobs. And there is nothing wrong with people (video creators) enjoying what they do, a job does not have to be miserable.
Will upcoming documentaries be only made available on CZcams Red? If so, what about places where YT Red is not yet available? Isn't it same like TV model then?
Great video! And you're sooo right about the Uranium documentary. I wanted to watch that and searched hours for it! Couldn't find it anywhere! But I love every single one of your videos, And it's great that you don't pressure others into buying this.
Dude, the problem is what this symbolizes. It's moving CZcams to a worse direction. To a more money grabbing, greed perpetuating, exclusivist path. it's just not right maaan. i hope someday we can find an alternative to youtube, but its practically impossible at this point with the amount of videos youtube has. lets not make things work and too corporate. As it is, youtube has been adopting that corporate mentality with the Finebros thing. Please make CZcams democractically friendly and less greedy.
CZcams giving you a way to have 0 ads while still supporting creators, then they give you exclusive content AND a Google Play Music subscription? MONEY GRABBING SHILLS!
You clearly have no idea about the mindset of corporations. There is one universal truth to all corporations and that's to make a profit. Any and all actions by any corporation must have a profitable outcome. If they suddenly started supporting "favorite creators", what happens to small youtubers? What happens to the organic and authentic culture of youtube? How can smaller circles get bigger?
***** Small CZcams creators are already at a disadvantage, this doesn't put them lower or higher. CZcams doesn't generate views out of nothing, they don't endorse "favorite" creators to get them more views, not right now at least. Of course CZcams operates like a business, working to turn a profit. Why is it okay for companies like Microsoft to do that, but not okay for CZcams to do that? Quick question- what point are you trying to make? You seem mad at CZcams for releasing new, exclusive content and putting it behind a pay wall- kind of like Netflix does with their exclusive series. Is it bad for Netflix to do it, too?
"Not right now at least." Exactly. I don't like where this is heading. Microsoft is a company that sells an OS, Netflix sells shows, but social media companies like CZcams and Twitter sell their audiences to advertisers. CZcams has grown to be a valuable democratic platform for the world at large. Any movement towards greed could have heavy negative repercussions.
+Ouss DZ this is what happening lot of peoples have started using Adblock and it's increasing popularity is treat to youtube as they only get paid if ad is seen, so they have to find other ways to earn money.
A non-existent problem: does waiting 5 seconds harm you THAT much? Like seriously if you're paying money to save 5 seconds of time I find that spoilt. On a different note, I think "snatoms" are also a non existent problem: instead invest money in making computer simulations or projections, they would be much more useful. Let's be honest nobody learns solid chemistry using snatoms and ball-and-stick models.
If someone wants to pay for a service, so be it. And it's not only a way to improve your experience on CZcams, it's also a way to support content creators by giving them that much more money per view.
There are adblock extensions/plug-ins for your desktop browser, but I never really found an Android app that played nice with the YT app, so I kind of like that YTr is ad-free. I've noticed that I'm able to watch waaay more videos than I was watching before, with ads, but what got me to try YTr was the offline playback.
+hakkihan tunbak 1. It mostly 15-30 seconds which are sometimes unskippable 2. What's being advertised is almost always a scam. "Hi im Tai Lopez and this is my lamborghini" type of stuff. 3. Time is more expensive. I can either do the job i like for an hour and buy month subscription or spend this hour watching ads. Or install AdBlock and fuckup both youtube and its creators.
"Oh but it's just $10 and it's optional....", except it is actually $120 yearly, and not optional when creators go with red which is something YT is pushing for. And as with every service the following years will just get worse, only $15, only $20, only $25,... and then slowly not optional at all because most content got moved over. But hey what is $10 to you, well it is 10 on this site, then the next site asks for 10, and 10 on one after that, then the next game asks for 15, and then some software for a measly 25,..... and if you dare add it all up you realize these "small fees" are bleeding you for thousands of dollars yearly which should be going toward better things that actually matter.
I genuinely respect you and the quality of video content you put out. If anybody was going to be able to convince me of the benefit to pay ten bucks a month it would be you because you always seem so humble. Im glad there is a way to support you directly if I jump to youtubered. keep up the great work! cheers.
Please can you explain the difference between centripetal and centrifugal forces. There have been a lot of controversial talk over those two things. Im trying to wrap my head around them, but I am still very much confused. If you could just slide it somewhere in your videos it would be much appreciated.
Derek is there a way to support your channel through the hybrid Google Music + YTR subscription? I signed up back in the early beta days and enjoy an early adopter discount, don't want to lose that :)
Correct me if I'm wrong here, does this mean CZcams Red subscribers will be able to have PIP (Picture-in-picture) for the youtube app on iPad? More importantly, does the youtube app even have PIP?
Hey veritassium it's me who wrote for you on the pyramid video and i love you soo much and i must to tell you how much i love (uranium twisted dragon tails) the 2 parts and i watch you when you was at the noble prize concert and i wish you make a new program just like uranium and i wish you understand how much i love you and how much i am inspired by you and your videos
Hm I like the idea, but the price is higher than a basic Netflix sub. And those are prof produced shows, with CZcams red I don't trust the quality yet. Plus, well downloads we already have access to, and ad-free can be achieved on desktop as well. So the package doesn't really seem to add much value. Or are there some exclusive shows you only get on CZcams red?
Hey, do you live in the Bay Area Derek? If so, how would you feel about speaking at my high school about science, education, curiosity, or something along those lines? My school is in Palo Alto and once a week we have a guest speaker give a one hour lecture on various topics and I believe my school would absolutely love to have you come in and talk.
In Australia we use to have "pay TV" woth no ads and more content. That is, until they put ad's on it, then asked for more money to watch more content. Sound familiar?
i'm a Red subscriber & it's great! i dig the extra features & you didn't mention it that it also includes a subscription to Google Play Music as well. Everyone wins! $10/month is the cost of one cocktail, hopefully lots of people subscribe to support.
Uranium was phenomenal. I hope that, between Red and Patreon, you can produce more like it. If Hank Green hadn't posted his video first, I'd totally sign up right now. Maybe we can convince him to share his commission ;)
I think after my membership for this month ends with Spotify I'm gonna switch to CZcams Red. I've used Adblock for years until I found out that it keeps content creators from receiving revenue and I think that CZcams Red is a good way to make up for it in a sense, plus I can use CZcams Red as Spotify if I just make a playlist. I'll definitely be using the link in this description, since I've been following your content for a long while and has always been some of my favorite videos.
keep up the good work. im happy that youtube did this because it allows users to support content creators and we also get the benefit of not having ads. the people that dont want to pay or cant afford it can always turn off their adblocker and watch it with ads. ps i think youtube red can be bundled with google play music and their family plan.
The one thing that I want to see is some sort metric that lets users determine what sort of support that they giving to content providers. Something that would let us compare the value of watching ads, skipping ads, subscriptions to paid channels, CZcams Red, Patreon, etc. How much value is a "like" or "favorite" to a channel? Since things change from channel to channel, I have found it hard to really determine what the best way to support people. Some sort of measurable system that lets a user compare and contrast their options and the resulting "support value"(assuming the value is impartial) would be really helpful.
You forgot to mention the fact the subscription comes with access to Google Play Music which is a music streaming service like Spotify. Hank Green pointed this out, and said that the price for Spotify and CZcams Red are the same. So as long as you don't mind the slight differences between Google Play Music and Spotify (though the majority of the same content), you could just replace your Spotify subscription for CZcams Red and get a music streaming service and all of the other CZcams Red rewards.
Personally, I cannot afford $10 a month subscriptions (I also cannot afford things like Netflix) so it's not for me. But I was convinced by Hank's argument.
+Dixavd Hank makes a very good point! Something I should have said - anyway for me the main selling point is being able to get rid of ads and allow teachers and parents to do the same.
+2veritasium the teaching aspect makes a lot of sense
Spotify has A LOT more content however
+Ted Fitzpatrick I beg to differ. While Spotify may have more music than Google Play, the addition of CZcams with Google Play adds far more content than their competitors.
+Jacob Garner in low quality though, Spotify has full album rips but CZcams has amateur 240p wankstain quality singles and Google play is probably one of the worst paid services I've ever seen with its content. Spotify has David Toop's rare albums and strange avant garde singles that I consistently can't find anywhere else.
For a second, I thought it was _"your thoughts on RedTube"_
that's a different story
In Soviet Russia, we call it Redtube You!
LOL
What's that?
+Lothar Matthuas Don't look it up unless you're over 18 in the US. I'm not sure what your country is though.
The only concern I have is that certain channels will start to purely produce content for youtube red and we'll see good free content dry up.
+nekogod I think this is what most people are afraid of. CZcams certainly seems to be pushing for youtube red specific content.
+nekogod All that will do is cause the downfall of youtube. It will force consumers to use other free view platforms.
I don't see that happening without major backslash and youtube coming out alive *shakes head*
+nekogod even if they make onlyl few videos for youtube red still sucks ! if i am sub to some 1 and want to watch his videos then i want all his videos and not watch some and then some do not ! maybe if only the pay thing is just for special project movies and shows like netflix then maybe caus i wont care then ! but thiis is just the start and once there is $ in the game it will get deeper and deeper
+nekogod Well if they do it would be a bad idea for the creators. They will actually make more money if they allow non CZcams Red subscribers to watch videos. Thats because they'd be making money from both subscribers and advertisements. While shutting your videos off to Red subscribers will only give you the Red money.
CZcams Red is a great concept, except fo the whole human propensity for greed thing. Being a paid premium service with the ability to display CZcams Red only content, it seems like it may well be a death knell for high quality and accessible "free" content on regular CZcams.
+Youblixuous I understand this concern but I hope that CZcams remains free for everyone forever in its current ad-supported form. I think there would be a backlash, that I would join if the high quality content became exclusively available behind a paywall.
Communism is what happens when you try to take human greed out of economics.
+2veritasium Thank you for responding to my comment. I too believe there would be a backlash if more and more high-quality content became exclusively available behind a paywall, but I feel that backlash would come from content consumers and would mostly fall deafly on the money muffled ears of content creators. CZcams Red provides a nice incentive to create CZcams Red exclusive content as opposed to regular CZcams, which is rightfully necessary for the model to work. If the incentive is there, however, people being people will attempt to maximize its usage to maximize their profits. This means lower quality content and more intrusive advertisements on regular CZcams. I do hope I'm wrong in this regard, but history has shown us otherwise time and time again.
Its like saying you shouldn't get paid for doing what you love. Just naive. Work is work. And getting paid means more reward and incentive.
Anyways to add, I would imagine that the youtube red exclusives would be more like Timed exclusives. If you aren't a youtube red user you won't know that the video came out a week ago so it will be procrastinating as usual, nothing changed.
+Youblixuous It may be the case, but as I recall CZcams Red distributes the money based on, at least in part, watch time, so I guess it depends also on how many people sign up for the service, if 90% of your subscriber base are Free-To-Watch (FTW, which should totally be a thing!), I'd think you would benefit more by producing higher quality free content.
My main concern is availability of the premium content in different regions. Since it's only in the US now, it means the rest of the world is excluded from said content, which in turn poses the same problem as the old-school TV distribution. Even after they do a global roll-out, would a premium subscription in, say, Thailand, have the same amount of (premium) content available compared to one in the US?
So they're gonna make exclusive content.. and meanwhile you claim that it's gonna stay the same for the non-premium members? I call that bullshit.
$10 per month isnt that much
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Maybe or maybe not.. either way, without youtube red you sure as hell wont click a video just to be told that you can't watch it because you're not a premium member. I think that in itself will be annoying as hell.
budy don't waste your time, here are actually people that trust this greedy guy.
+Philandros This exclusive content has much higher buegets than most regular videos. It needs funding
+Philandros If that's their youtube red implementation, it's stupid.
I hate ads too. That's why I have a little thing called AdBlock
+David S. do not brag too much about adbloock or they will get it removed ! there are already few sites that adblock can not block adds in them ! its only still working becaus not too many ppl useing it
I hate ads too, but luckily I leave in a country where there's no ad on CZcams
+David S. But when you use AdBlock you take away revenue from creators, it's essentially a selfish option, unless the Ad is Ty Lopez, always block Ty Lopez.
don't be a douchebag. all these people are putting a great deal of effort to provide you with free on-demand entertainment for you. the least you could do is watch 5 seconds od ads every now and then
+zorkan111 watching the 5 seconds of ad and skipping is the same you have to watch 15-30 seconds for it to count so your the same as people who use ad block
$10/month is too expensive. $0.01/video is a lot more attractive. That would be 1,000 videos. I don't watch anywhere near that number.
+Russ Abbott But then it would force channels to make longer videos because people wouldn't want to pay any amount (yes, even a penny) to watch for instance 5 seconds film. It would majorly fuck a lot of channels.
+YipYapYoup that's an excellent point
+YipYapYoup . Good point, but $10/month is still too much for me.
+Russ Abbott As someone who doesn't listen to music all that often the whole google play music bundle seems like a bad deal for those who won't use it. they should probably make service that is only the youtube part for 5$/Mo or maybe even 50$/Year...
+YipYapYoup the actual model with ad per view already disadvantage long videos, because they need more time to make them than short one. so it could balance the thing since not everyone will pay for this.
"exclusive content for Red users." Aaaand there's the catch.
They aren't exclusive, you can buy these videos even without, even if you live outside the US.
It's content that no one would've been able to see without CZcams Red. Now with it, the people who are willing to pay it can see it. It's not a catch.
I don't mind the ads... since i'm old (45y) i've learn to live with ads... what i don't like is "ok... you have a choice normal youtube with ads and Premium, no ads and more contents".... do we really have a choice?? It feels more a menace than an option.....
Yeah it isn't a choice. It is the end of CZcams and the beginning of some other crappy thing that within 2 years will have advertising on it
+mark a CZcams has advertisements already...
+mark a CZcams has advertisements already...
The "premium" side of YTr isn't that great---you're not missing much yet. I used to watch a ton of YT the normal way, with ads, and now on the YTr app I feel like I'm able to watch waaay more videos in the same amount of time.
Fuck yeah Thats the thing men these greedy people are turning internet in a place where are two people: free with ads/"premiun with no ads and exclusive conten" fuck that shit.
A donation system would have been better IMO
+Amine Birouk donation ! like they need $ youtube makes billions ! they are jsut bigger fine bros need more we should not support greed ! you got your free shit let other ppl like netflix and others do thier stuff ! stop trying to take over the whole internet
+msms47 the donation goes to content creators not youtube , i believe it's a better option than making premium content to those who pay.
everyone wins
Amine Birouk youtube does not want that ! they want the $ so they make big shows ! and become internet TV ! and also i do nto like donations ! becaus they get abused alot ! takeing few $ from kids and thousands of $ from rich ideots ! it will make the youtbers do not care anymore about views or anything but pleaseing thos big donators of thiers just like the Politic system in USA ! where donations abuse the policies ! or on twtich
I love youtube ,I love veritasium ,but we all know this is shit.
A completely optional thing? Why?
+Leo Wattenberg (LEOXD) How the fuck is this optional if Derek is using more time creating Red videos and less time creating videos for everyone else?
If you don't have red you will eventually have less videos.
So no, it's not an option. It's a farce.
+Leo Wattenberg (LEOXD)
The beauty of youtube is that it's free for all and that it's content is shared worldwide.
CZcams will soon lose it's beauty and soul ; youtubers priority will be to make the exclusive content for youtubered ,maybe not at the beginning but after a while it will happen for sure.
I am from a country of modest means and I won't be able to subscribe to this shit even if wanted to (not everyone is from the US) .
I wouldn't mind if this was just to get rid of the ads , then it's optional , but the problem is in all the other bullshit.
I believe that youtube as we know and love will be soon gone.
Lordidude He cannot make Red-only videos, unless CZcams invites him to do it.
zonkolbox Paid movies have been available on CZcams since 2011. As long as >99.99% of CZcams's videos are free, these couple of premium videos don't matter.
+Leo Wattenberg (LEOXD)
let's wait and see and hope for the best to the creators and viewers.
If you don't like ads use an adblocker.
+Jake Wallace exactly, I mean, why should anyone get paid for anything they do, if everything would be free it would be so cool, imagine walking into market and just taking everything you want. What a perfect world we would have.
Sounds like you have already signed up for CZcams Red
Yeah, let's make the people who make you get hours of fun for free stop getting any rewards because you are too lazy to press a button after 6s of waiting... That's the spirit bro!
+Jake Wallace the fact that youre promoting adblock means that youre a clueless potato. If you knew better you would keep it to yourself
The more people use it the more money is donated. I will promote all I want.
yes i and many other people hate ads, but i would hate paying $9.99 a month for what was originally a free service even more. Having used youtube for many years the number of ads and their show times have dramatically increased over the years, since the unveiling of youtube red, ive only seen that number increase. More people need to treat youtube as a hobby/passion and not a reliable source of income, it doesnt improve content, it only makes us free users put up with more ads. Having to sit through a 30 second ad for a 2 minute or less video would have been ridiculous a couple years ago, yet it happens today all the time... with people making youtube their source of income, they have essentially been put on a dog lead.. wouldnt you support a premium service if it increased your income? we need to voice our complaint now before they force even more ads on us free users in an effort to get us rolling out $10 bills/month for something which was originally free to use.
+mikeunleashed1 although if you dont share my opinions on youtube red, get it from the Veritasium link because this channel is cool ;D
+mikeunleashed1 If you don't want to pay, don't do it! It is really THAT simple
Gabriel Rodríguez Gutiérrez oh i wont pay, but i also dont want more ads showing up for people who dont either, how are you meant to do that without voicing opinion?
+mikeunleashed1 Nobody said you will get more ads. You are just making suppositions. If there starts being more ads (and I mean serious data studies, not "I think I have more ads now than before"), I will complain with you. Until then, this idea looks fine for me
B..b..but CZcams has not been free for ages. There's almost nothing free on the internet (unless it's donation-supported, exclusively... and it's really rare that stuff like that works). When you're told it's free, YOU are the product. Facebook sells your information. CZcams sells that you watch the ads (etc etc). I'm fine with paying and stop being the product.
And then content will slowly move to be "premium exclusives" and free users will have a worse version of CZcams than we have now. And I bet the free version will get increasingly more ads.
If you want to support a channel, do so using patreon, rather than paying for a service that will not only encourage CZcams to screw with its free users, but will also give money to content creator you don't care about.
The now multi millionaire. Who had to kickstart to fund his creation, instead of spending his own money or raising capital in a more conventional way which would require repaying is in favor of a paid CZcams service. I'm shocked
+Ian Cloyd lmao
Source on the "multimillionare" thing? CZcams content creators with loads more subscribers are not even millionares, so I'm curious.
+Think they are our_mine hacked markapiers channel he makes 600k per mouth after tax so he make about 5 mill a year
+Sobhy Hajji thank you. Thank you for this.
I wasn't attacking Derek his stuff is awesome I was pointing out that some CZcams's are rich when they say there not
@2veritasium. A while back you told us to buy Vessel. If I were going to pay for one, do you want me to get youtube red or vessel?
how is the camera so smooth?? What are you using??
I don't know what veritasium exactly is using, but the CZcams stabilization algorithm is pretty good. There are some really interesting papers about it on Google Research.
+Taran Van Hemert The entire video is warping at the corners so my bet is on youtube stabilization :) Thanks for the adobe prmeiere tutorials btw!
+Taran Van Hemert I didn't expect to see you here!
+Taran Van Hemert He said in a previous video that he is using an action cam with a gyro because some people were getting nauseous while watching his 'walk and talk' videos. He did not specify which camera though.
+Alex Azazel no
There was an old iPhone app that was removed from the App Store a few years ago called "McTube" which would let you download videos, play them in the background, and didn't have ads.
iPhone, lol.
I'd love to sign up using your link, but it's not available in my country(NZ) >:-(
MAN i really can't stop thinking about how great you're being to the people on earth!! congratulations you are making an amazing job! you are making us THINK, something very needed these days!
A huge thank you from all of us at Brazil.
If all good quality content will move to CZcams Red I will say "good bye youtube, I won't miss you".
I just signed up for YoutTube Red using that link! Go Veritasium! :)
Yep, i have subscribed using your link.. i watch a lot of youtube videos and yes, the ads sucks in between..And i also love your channel, your videos and its also one of the reason i subscribed to RED using your link so that i can contribute something to you.. :)
Keep making lots of videos.. Thank you
when is it comming to the uk
Why would I need youtube red when I have adblock and apps that csn let me play my videos while my phone is off?
+MindlessShowCase Red will have exclusive content, that's their way of making sure you can't just use AdBlock and have the same experience, but it screws every free user at the same time. This is the death of CZcams.
+YipYapYoup Exclusive content is produced and published by CZcams. Are you saying Netflix is horrible for having Netflix only shows while the other platforms have the same concept of paying to watch TV shows?
Your logic is flawed.
Koby Dunham Not at all, because Netflix doesn't have a free alternative, and the content can't be produced by anyone. CZcams is for everyone, and you wouldn't expect movies or TV shows on it, so I have no clue why you're comparing the two.
YipYapYoup CZcams already has TV shows on it. You also have to pay for those. CZcams also has movies, so I think I already expect movies & TV shows on CZcams. I'm comparing the two because Netflix is funding TV shows that are only available on their platform with their subscription. What is CZcams doing? Funding TV shows that are only available on their platform with their subscription. They both have funded movie projects too. What's the difference between the two, sir?
+jpchevron Yeh, because wasting your time on random ads that give the CZcamsr a pityful amount of money is totally worth it. And by doing that I don't get subconciously manipulated to buy stuff (of course that's an hyperbole, but the point stands).
I did a free trial for CZcams Red, and I have to admit, that was an amazing month. I really can't subscribe to it, because of financial reasons (i know it's a small amount but I have difficulties) and I can't wait to sort everything out and subscribe to it
I'm so sad that YT Red isn't available in Iceland, "Mat Pat"(The Game Theorist) has "Game Lab" for paying users only and I REALLY want to see those. :c
Availability and price are the two worst things about youtube red. Besides not being available where I live, because of currency exchanges, it would cost a lot here
Thankyou for being the one person I've seen talk about this mention it's only in the US, it's so annoying going to sign up and find I can't.
AdBlock... duh.
Using adblock on CZcams you prevent the content creators from getting rewarded for what they do
+Gabriel Rodríguez Gutiérrez true, but even Hank Green has said that it doesn't generate that much revenue and that there's better ways to support your favorite creators if you are financially able
I'm not saying that CZcams Red is better for supporting than Patreon for example. I'm just saying that adblock prevents them from getting money that they could invest in their channels (as many of my favourite youtubers do)
+Gabriel Rodríguez Gutiérrez You know you can simply turn off AdBlock when watching a video made by someone you want to support, right? There's no excuse to not use AdBlock.
Adrian Fahrenheit That is absolutely fine. But most pages and videos a visit/watch I do because they offer me something, either free knowledge, fun, or just games. If everyone turned ads off those pages would close because they wouldn't pay themselves up, and I don't want that to happen, so I don't care about getting a few ads as long as the people who benefit me get something on exchange. That is one reason not to use adblock
Why doesn't it say sponsored by CZcams in the description?
I would be interested if it was available here in Australia...
I already subscribed!! Otherwise I would definitely use your link! But I'll share your link with my friends!
RedTube You 1 cent sign me up
9.99 a FUCKING month? fuck that I'll turn adblock for free. download videos? I can do that for free. playing stuff in the background on mobile? that should be FUCKING free. we've wanted it for years
+Harry Livesley explain to me why it should be free? because musicians shouldn't earn money?
***** most of the musicians don't need money, Beyonce or lady gaga don't need fucking CZcams money. Smaller musicians I'd donate to
+Harry Livesley but do you donate to them? Heres the problem.
Xpyto No lol.
+Harry Livesley Don't lie to yourself, you won't donate jack shit. Just watch the ads to support the people who bring you joy.
Do you run your videos through a video shake filter (like Virtualdub + deshaker), or do you just have a really steady hand?
It's not available on Brazil yet :(
Personally, I think CZcams Red is great
if you thing that is great, you have to see with your open eyes
salem hjouj I have. From a Creator's standpoint it's amazing, from a viewer's standpoint it's pretty awesome, too. No ads is great - and it goes for all channels managed by my Google account.
And then free Google Play bonuses, too.
Nothing wrong with it, whatsoever.
With you there! So long content creators don't start pushing exclusive content to it too much, ofc.
So you are saying that for 10 bugs is worth 3 stupid new things, well, for 10 bugs is worth for skyping 4 seconds of ads whatt
+EposVox becasue you're in USA
CZcams is not a job, it's a hobby.
Then how do people make millions from it?
It's a job for alot of people though. Sure, it's a hobby for most, but yeah, like streaming, it's a job for quite many.
inb4 longass raging and discussion about this subject
+Thor Mentha Not to all
+Thor Mentha you are just wrong
Job: "a task or piece of work, especially one that is paid."
CZcams creators put work into their videos, and google (youtube) pays them for it. It definitely qualifies if a job, even if it is a bit riskier than other jobs. And there is nothing wrong with people (video creators) enjoying what they do, a job does not have to be miserable.
Will upcoming documentaries be only made available on CZcams Red? If so, what about places where YT Red is not yet available? Isn't it same like TV model then?
Great video!
And you're sooo right about the Uranium documentary. I wanted to watch that and searched hours for it! Couldn't find it anywhere!
But I love every single one of your videos, And it's great that you don't pressure others into buying this.
Dude, the problem is what this symbolizes. It's moving CZcams to a worse direction. To a more money grabbing, greed perpetuating, exclusivist path. it's just not right maaan. i hope someday we can find an alternative to youtube, but its practically impossible at this point with the amount of videos youtube has. lets not make things work and too corporate. As it is, youtube has been adopting that corporate mentality with the Finebros thing. Please make CZcams democractically friendly and less greedy.
worse*
CZcams giving you a way to have 0 ads while still supporting creators, then they give you exclusive content AND a Google Play Music subscription? MONEY GRABBING SHILLS!
You clearly have no idea about the mindset of corporations. There is one universal truth to all corporations and that's to make a profit. Any and all actions by any corporation must have a profitable outcome. If they suddenly started supporting "favorite creators", what happens to small youtubers? What happens to the organic and authentic culture of youtube? How can smaller circles get bigger?
***** Small CZcams creators are already at a disadvantage, this doesn't put them lower or higher. CZcams doesn't generate views out of nothing, they don't endorse "favorite" creators to get them more views, not right now at least. Of course CZcams operates like a business, working to turn a profit. Why is it okay for companies like Microsoft to do that, but not okay for CZcams to do that?
Quick question- what point are you trying to make? You seem mad at CZcams for releasing new, exclusive content and putting it behind a pay wall- kind of like Netflix does with their exclusive series. Is it bad for Netflix to do it, too?
"Not right now at least." Exactly. I don't like where this is heading.
Microsoft is a company that sells an OS, Netflix sells shows, but social media companies like CZcams and Twitter sell their audiences to advertisers. CZcams has grown to be a valuable democratic platform for the world at large. Any movement towards greed could have heavy negative repercussions.
no ads? ...use adblock
play youtube on background and while screen off? ...use firefox
red youtube?... ain't nobody got cash for that
+Ouss DZ this is what happening lot of peoples have started using Adblock and it's increasing popularity is treat to youtube as they only get paid if ad is seen, so they have to find other ways to earn money.
Ankur Jain Yup
Hi Derek, Awesome video, I love these vlogs ;)
what about people outseas ? its been ages and google music is still not available outside of US.
A non-existent problem: does waiting 5 seconds harm you THAT much? Like seriously if you're paying money to save 5 seconds of time I find that spoilt.
On a different note, I think "snatoms" are also a non existent problem: instead invest money in making computer simulations or projections, they would be much more useful. Let's be honest nobody learns solid chemistry using snatoms and ball-and-stick models.
If someone wants to pay for a service, so be it. And it's not only a way to improve your experience on CZcams, it's also a way to support content creators by giving them that much more money per view.
There are adblock extensions/plug-ins for your desktop browser, but I never really found an Android app that played nice with the YT app, so I kind of like that YTr is ad-free. I've noticed that I'm able to watch waaay more videos than I was watching before, with ads, but what got me to try YTr was the offline playback.
men thats true
+hakkihan tunbak
1. It mostly 15-30 seconds which are sometimes unskippable
2. What's being advertised is almost always a scam. "Hi im Tai Lopez and this is my lamborghini" type of stuff.
3. Time is more expensive. I can either do the job i like for an hour and buy month subscription or spend this hour watching ads. Or install AdBlock and fuckup both youtube and its creators.
Драть Ведро looool Tai Lopez is a legend
"Oh but it's just $10 and it's optional....", except it is actually $120 yearly, and not optional when creators go with red which is something YT is pushing for.
And as with every service the following years will just get worse, only $15, only $20, only $25,... and then slowly not optional at all because most content got moved over.
But hey what is $10 to you, well it is 10 on this site, then the next site asks for 10, and 10 on one after that, then the next game asks for 15, and then some software for a measly 25,..... and if you dare add it all up you realize these "small fees" are bleeding you for thousands of dollars yearly which should be going toward better things that actually matter.
You're right, over a million years it's a 120 million, which is a huge amount of money, so let's not do it.
pls ask them y is it only available in the us? this is quite frustrating for me, living outside of us
I genuinely respect you and the quality of video content you put out. If anybody was going to be able to convince me of the benefit to pay ten bucks a month it would be you because you always seem so humble. Im glad there is a way to support you directly if I jump to youtubered. keep up the great work! cheers.
i think this video is not very objective this time. Too much of a promotion, no pro and cons, just the pros. Sry, dont like that.
i don't like CZcams red idea. that's just away to get their greedy for in the door and before long you'll have to pay for normal watching
foot in the door
also you could start watching the 1st of 3 part how to series and have to pay to watch the ending
Derek, do you think you'll do a video about the recent Gravitational Waves news?
The service isn't available in my country (Uruguay)
Making a free platform into a payed one.....never a good idea.
+2veritasium This was a paid advertisement.
Did CZcams add more ads. for viewers with no CZcamsRed?
Please can you explain the difference between centripetal and centrifugal forces. There have been a lot of controversial talk over those two things. Im trying to wrap my head around them, but I am still very much confused. If you could just slide it somewhere in your videos it would be much appreciated.
You can already download the videos and audio as well as use adblocking programs.....
Not available in the EU :(
CZcams Red not available in Canada :(
Can't do it from Brazil, but thats why we have patreon. Hope you get all support you need and continue do make awesome videos.
YTR not available in Bulgaria...
I would love to sign up for CZcams Red but unfortunately I'm in Canada. I assume it will reach us here eventually.
Derek is there a way to support your channel through the hybrid Google Music + YTR subscription? I signed up back in the early beta days and enjoy an early adopter discount, don't want to lose that :)
I'm excited for this, it has been something I questioned and I didn't even realize this was a thing. Thanks for the plug!
Oh Derek, shields up! ; ) FYI: Congrats on the new sub-element on the way! : )
Correct me if I'm wrong here, does this mean CZcams Red subscribers will be able to have PIP (Picture-in-picture) for the youtube app on iPad? More importantly, does the youtube app even have PIP?
But its not available in Australia Boo :(
Hey veritassium it's me who wrote for you on the pyramid video and i love you soo much and i must to tell you how much i love (uranium twisted dragon tails) the 2 parts and i watch you when you was at the noble prize concert and i wish you make a new program just like uranium and i wish you understand how much i love you and how much i am inspired by you and your videos
What ads?
why do you don't make vids on you're main channel?
WHY THE HELL IS IT NOT AVAILABLE IN THE UK?!?!!?
i'll totally sing up but unfortunately is not available in Colombia :(
Once it comes to France I'll definitely use your link to join YT Red.
We just have to wait for a bit
You are truly awesome. Good job!
Hm I like the idea, but the price is higher than a basic Netflix sub. And those are prof produced shows, with CZcams red I don't trust the quality yet.
Plus, well downloads we already have access to, and ad-free can be achieved on desktop as well. So the package doesn't really seem to add much value. Or are there some exclusive shows you only get on CZcams red?
Man wish I could sign up using your link. I want to help support you and your channel and i want CZcams Red, but I live in AUS. :(
Hey, do you live in the Bay Area Derek? If so, how would you feel about speaking at my high school about science, education, curiosity, or something along those lines? My school is in Palo Alto and once a week we have a guest speaker give a one hour lecture on various topics and I believe my school would absolutely love to have you come in and talk.
Thanks for the link!!!
The problem is that YT Red isn't available outside of the US :(
Excited about this! Can't wait till it comes to Canada. Creators deserve to be paid well for their work.
I'm quite happy with it...and that guy was taking pictures of you in the background lol
Do you have a patreon?
In Australia we use to have "pay TV" woth no ads and more content. That is, until they put ad's on it, then asked for more money to watch more content. Sound familiar?
Do the creators get more money for "red" views vs. ad views?
i'm a Red subscriber & it's great! i dig the extra features & you didn't mention it that it also includes a subscription to Google Play Music as well. Everyone wins! $10/month is the cost of one cocktail, hopefully lots of people subscribe to support.
I love your videos!
I really enjoy these, keep walking and talking man.
Have you ever done a Book list with your favourite books? I would love to see it!
Greeting from Germany
Now I'd like to hear your thoughts on Red Tube =)
Uranium was phenomenal. I hope that, between Red and Patreon, you can produce more like it. If Hank Green hadn't posted his video first, I'd totally sign up right now. Maybe we can convince him to share his commission ;)
I think after my membership for this month ends with Spotify I'm gonna switch to CZcams Red. I've used Adblock for years until I found out that it keeps content creators from receiving revenue and I think that CZcams Red is a good way to make up for it in a sense, plus I can use CZcams Red as Spotify if I just make a playlist. I'll definitely be using the link in this description, since I've been following your content for a long while and has always been some of my favorite videos.
keep up the good work. im happy that youtube did this because it allows users to support content creators and we also get the benefit of not having ads. the people that dont want to pay or cant afford it can always turn off their adblocker and watch it with ads. ps i think youtube red can be bundled with google play music and their family plan.
CZcams Red logo
CZcams Red is not currently available in Australia.
Did you always have a fish lens or did I just notice it. If you just started using it, it gives me a headache
I'll sign up as soon as it's available here in Canada
Would LOVE to sign up for youtube red but can't!
CZcams Red is not currently available in United Kingdom.
:-(
The one thing that I want to see is some sort metric that lets users determine what sort of support that they giving to content providers. Something that would let us compare the value of watching ads, skipping ads, subscriptions to paid channels, CZcams Red, Patreon, etc. How much value is a "like" or "favorite" to a channel? Since things change from channel to channel, I have found it hard to really determine what the best way to support people. Some sort of measurable system that lets a user compare and contrast their options and the resulting "support value"(assuming the value is impartial) would be really helpful.
I want it but still not here in the UK.
I only see adverts when I'm on my phone as I have an ad blocker lol