"Rwanda Is A Huge Political Cost At Election" UK & Ireland Clash Over Migrants Avoiding Deportation
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- čas přidán 28. 04. 2024
- The UK will not take back asylum seekers who cross the border into Ireland "until the EU accepts that we can send them back to France", according to a government source.
The comment comes amid an escalating row between Dublin and Westminster over the Irish government's plans for new legislation to enable asylum seekers who cross the border from Northern Ireland to be sent back to the UK.
Irish justice minister Helen McEntee told a parliamentary committee last week that more than 80% of recent arrivals in Ireland came via the land border with Northern Ireland.
TalkTV's Mike Graham is joined by communications director for the Henry Jackson Society Megan Gittoes to discuss.
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Why would genuine asylum seekers leave a perfectly safe European country for the UK?
To be with family. To be in a country that speaks their language.
Benefit packages
@@nathijomac fair enough on the family reason. Don't those with family have legal means of access? The language reason is not justified. Learn a new language.
Also, how many of those illegals in boats are actually travelling to family in Britain?
@@superred690 then benefit packages need to be structured to discourage economic migration.
@@userxyz64 No idea on the numbers, I was just giving reasons most people overlook.
As far as has been reported they don't.
I disagree that language isn't a valid reason, why should they have to learn a new language when they can legally claim asylum?
Leo Varadkar fought for an open border..caused havoc in the Brexit negotiations..... here are the consequences.
Varadkar is long gone.
Yeah. With good reason. There is an international agreement that requires that open border. Ireland and UK are their own worst enemies w. r. t. immigration. Should be housed in government controlled centres, not hotels.
...which will be a border poll,with the majority of this Island in support of it....the new Taoiseach said as much in his acceptance speech.
Free staters wanted an open border and the CTA so they could travel where they wanted but when others avail of an open border and CTA they throw their dummies outta the pram
With good reason! An International agreement, to which UK is a signatory, requires an open border. Without that agreement the UK would be stepping back into the "troubles".
I am so disappointed to hear so many Brits complaining about an agreement that has given us 30 years of peace in these islands, as if it were some kind of nuisance that Ireland spitefully raised to stymy Brexit.
You have just shown us how the average person in Britain is incapable of seeing the bigger picture.
Pay good money to keep them out and then pay good money to send them out. Somebody is making a boatload of money off this comedy.
Hell of a lot cheaper than paying them benefits and housing them along with all the freebies they receive!!
if they get all that stuff here people would be pissed off , they wont get anything for free here , they dont come here amnd thjey dont breed here
@@naapsuvaimne740 well we beg to differ, would like to see our Veterans having a comfy room in hotels as well as food!
@@naapsuvaimne740 where is "here"?
Why put a cost on saving our country and culture?
They will go to Rwanda and apply for Asylum from there, the ones who are successful will end up in the UK, and the ones who are not will just go back to France and restart the cycle. And all that will be funded by the taxpayers. You can continue to allow these politicians to pull the wool over your eyes
The numbers coming on the boats isn't going to change that.
Irish won't tolerate this. No way.
The Irish love the EU so much , let them talk to France
N they wont and righty so!! i have family there and its kicking off big time and the news wont touch it..
Ireland and France are both EU. They can talk to each other and hold France accountable.
@@TonyToning-ne7uq agreed. State media propaganda rte silent as usual. Ireland will return these economic migrants as the public are going looper over the vast amounts already in IRL. 1.1 million foreigners now! 24% of the population. This is a massive massive problem.
@@Netflix999common Irishman hates the EU
More power to you, my Irish brothers and sisters from your English sister 🇫🇴🇮🇪
Are you serious ????? England have done enough damage to Ireland .
We will never be brothers or sisters with you .
You have to fight and repatriate theses people. Our country and content isn’t big we will erode and be erased from the time line if we let this continue.
I’m from Ireland and the irishness of Ireland is been eroded by these foreign imposters arriving by the day,if the summer is good the tourism will be destroyed this year.
It's very chilling to me that our politicians must know !, yet clearly don't care, that the population is absolutely incandescent with rage over this issue.
Which they contemptuously, year on year, refuse to fix
I love my Ireland from an Irish-American 🇺🇸❤️🇮🇪 thread lightly !
The Irish government should send them to Rwanda.
try read my comment :)
They should leave the EU for that
ECHR won't let them, and you need to be a member of that to be in the EU.
Stand up for your country people of England 🇬🇧 now...
might have to be down the barrel of a gun at this rate lmao .. did ireland vote for the bill to stop UK from sending them back to france by any chance ? could be an own goal here aye , idk not looked into it but i suspect so , english - irish history meh , should be working together on this instead its the same old games of back stabbing , historys history and we should move on , init :D before you think im anti irish im half irish and yes born here so i be a plastic paddy :P nah im english ;) only kidding but the rest of my comment on a serious note , hagd fella
They just gave hundreds in J25/M1 hotels, universal credit and houses, they walking around like kings
Don’t be like us here in American it was 100% European in cities in most major cities only 45% it’s crazy
there should be no cost regarding these migrants/illegals , if the government grew a set the cost would be very little to us , all they need to do is stop the boats at sea and turn them around in the direction of France , I always thought the job of the government was to protect our borders from illegals etc / pity they would not protect our own borders as much as they help protect other countries
Exactly
Ireland sending them back within days, yet it took uk government years to decide what to do or not to do
ofc they are there still in the UNION wtf dude hahaha if ireland voted that we couldnt send them back to france then its an own goal init but now if we cannot send them to france the games begin that were not in union ergo no bueno to sending them here, so ergo back to france but they'll be over loaded soon enough that is evident already , now collaboration with UK and bare some of the cost load and whalla they'll be staying in france where they should of stayed in the beginning and then france in turn send's them back to next state they came through and so on , till eventually they be home again and then maybe do it the legal way and see what happens like the rest of us have to do , init ;)
Why can’t Ireland send them to France.
After all that’s where they came from before they came to the UK.
Why don't you in the UK just secure your borders? You let them in, you can have them back. Take it up with France
@@prestigeworldwide5047 yes they should secure our boarders. I live by the coast and see the boats that patrol the water but whenever I go to the harbour it’s always docked. I never see people patrolling the beach either.
a DWP whistleblower said they are told to say they have PTSD then they can get PIP which he said is hardly ever turned down. Yet for the rest of us on PIP they are on about cutting the amount of people claiming the benefit because of the increase in claimants yet a lot of the new claimants are refugees. They shouldn’t have gone to Ireland I just thought it might have been easier to return them to France as your an EU country and England could have funded it.
@@prestigeworldwide5047 Why doesn't Ireland? Oh yeah, it demanded open borders from the UK under the threat of terrorism....
The law states they have to go back to they first arrived from
An Irish Gov. minister actually invited migrants to come to Ireland by promising them jobs and free housing in an advertisement that was posted in 7 languages. Our PM also stated that the people have no say in how many migrants come here or where they are settled. As a result, bus loads of young single, unvetted migrants were forced on small communities by gardaí who manhandled them and dragged them out of the way. At the latest protest , the police were brought in, in full riot gear, and they proceeded to pepper spray the people and beat them with batons. Some were also arrested.
I think this is a good thing and maybe there will be a proper conversation about immigration
Nothing to say , they are not wanted , not needed , And illegal
Talk in France of doing away with the Le Touquet Agreement. That would be interesting.
Benefits has become a career choice.
The uk should help them all enter Ireland and so we can return them all to the EU
LOL
That's a great plan!
The Irish public dont want and cant deal with them.. the govt of Ireland is something else they are getting handouts and dont care about the public.
No
UK got into illegal wars and caused this mess. Yere blair too
British Government is to blame, they should never have allowed a single migrant to enter the country!
Vote Reform UK.
We Brits will take our country back.
Rule Britannia.
it worked now they are in Ireland and as the EU said to us tough
What would you do if all planes and boats from uk are a target? Stop refugees at all cost.
Ireland will protect ourselves.
When it starts, no mercy will be found.
In Ireland you have villages of 1,000 people suddenly having over 700 single young African and Arab men arriving in buses without any warning or consultation sent by the Irish government and when the local people expressed concern the government called them far right racists , of course the Irish people are not accepting this threat to their way of life and every member of government could possibly lose their seat at the coming election if they continue with their adversarial position against the indigenous Irish people.
Well said.
If the government plops nearly 1/20th of its entire annual intake of refugees in a village of 1000 people in one go, that's a complete mismanagement failure
Glad you're back Mike.
Finally, Thorp has gone. She made the Breakfast Show unwatchable.
O.M.G How would we recognise them if they decided to return to the UK Mainland ??
A Southern Irish man can walk into Northern Island and jump a ferry ! No questions of who he is, Following that, As the Southern part of Island is in the EU. Planes can arrive And offload any number of European immigrants Who can then jump onto a Ferry at Larn and arrive in Stranraer no questions asked This is my opinion, I accept corrections if I’m wrong…
The Irish didn't want a border, it was removed at their own request 🤷♂️
Nope , you're not wrong. They are cross crossing between the UK and Ireland at will and unopposed by the terminally evil and terminally stupid.
We are in deep trouble.
Maybe the Home Office ought to be showing some honesty and start building detention centres to show they mean business. However I think there is already a large queue formed of immigration lawyers just waiting to launch legal challenges and also opening offshore bank accounts from the fees they will fleece from the countries coffers. Never mind Dishy Rishi has it all in hand he's already told us he's stopping sickness benefits to the sick and disabled to pay for it. I wonder if he'll also sanction dubious multiple claims by men of a certain religion that have multiple wives and families claiming multiple benefits and housing and council tax claims??? Yes they know its widespread but won't tackle it and the DWP/Job Centres know its true also.
Issue is government and banks not people on boats
I would be back in the channel within A WEEK if I was sent to Rwanda.
Good luck traveling 4000 miles in a dingy
but if they keep kicking you back to rwanda? are you rich enough
This is so funny , how true it is I don’t know , but chickens coming home to roost comes to mind !!
Not enough have gone yet...nowhere near...we STILL have too many in England. The EU can KEEP them
As soon as they realise that the Rwanda plan doesn't work, they will be on their way back, nothing more certain! Anyhow Labour are the next Government and they're going to scrap it. Seeing as Ireland only give them a tent and 38 euros it's a no brainer!
Sunak has quietly been doing what he thinks is right, ignored vicious criticism, and now seeing results.
Giving Vouchers and controlling what a person buys in Disgusting violation of Human rights....we are not Children
to hell with the EU. We want out now.
The worst thing you can do to people with anxiety and depression is to send them into meaningless jobs with absolutely no future.
Lost passports 😂😂😂 back to Calais
@stevenellis2776. Yes ! Go back to where you lost them . At the bottom of the English channel ? No problem, here's a pair of flippers and a snorkel. 😎☠️
And for the past 40 years
If you showed some Backbone and Resistance to this invitation of illegal immigrants you would not have this problem so bare the Nightmare consequences 😱
How is in any way has this proved the Rwanda bill working, "Browny points to the Cons they hope" Have they been sent to Ireland and paid the ferry costs if 100s of supposedly undocumented to arrive by ferry do they have to let them enter after all it is an EU country and would you not have to show a passport/documents at some point of travel, or do some no longer need any?
Why is Mr Graham not long since fired?
Many people are only depressed because the country is in a mess and seems to hate them. When i had depression i used to wake up in tears and sometimes during the day i would just want to smash everything near me and top myself, putting me in a busy work environment with machinery and annoying people would have been a BAD idea. Also, she's cute.
Oh they will bring in a return law, but wont apply to UK.
The welfare bill has cost the Uk for years and it has become unsustainable. It could be argued that it ties in with the emanicipation of women that gathered pace in the 1970's. Since that time the variety of things people can claim for has broadened immensly . Its time for people to man up stand on their own to feet.
Back to their own country’s
Why do we not hear from Rwanda, I think this is a scam
She's a Tory, former assistant to Tobias Ellwood MP. How about getting some real experts on to discuss these things?
Are there any pictures of where these people are going to live when they are sent to Rwanda?....I haven't seen any pictures....where are they supposedly those asylum seekers to?
How do they know the numbers and maybe just maybe they decided to try Ireland and its got nothing to do with Rwanda
Rwanda will never work, volumes are far too low
At least the Irish have the testicular fortitude to fight for their country.
We are used to fighting for our rights 700 years
The number is toooo fkn many
As a result of Brexit and the UK's withdrawal from the EU, the UK will no longer be able to return asylum seekers to other EU countries under the EU's Dublin Regulation. The Dublin Regulation is a set of rules that determine which EU member state is responsible for examining an asylum application. It allows for the transfer of asylum seekers between EU countries to have their asylum claims processed in the country responsible for their application.
With the UK no longer part of the EU and the Dublin Regulation, it has lost the ability to return asylum seekers to other EU countries. This could have implications for the UK's asylum system, as it may result in an increased burden on the UK to process asylum applications itself without the possibility of transferring them to other EU countries.
heres an idea instead of offering them 3k to go to rwanda offer them £500 to go back to france see how the french like that
If the Tories had done this years ago they wouldn't be losing the next election.
Yes true but they had the ECHR and house lords in the way
Keep Ireland Irish
Britain is only so big and we are full !
Ireland is now de facto Britains Rawanda 2.0
As the French say... "non"
Where did they go
If we dont let them in we dont need to send them anywhere. Let them sail on and on. Its their own choice after all.
This migrant problem now spreads to our neighbours, in Ireland, when is some one going to make a stand so he or she gets all the backing to stop this once and for all or get out of hp get a job on the basics a lolly pop traffic warden.
Vote Reform they will sort out boats arriving....🇬🇧
It should be easier for Ireland to return them to fellow EU members France
Even if the Rwanda deal doesn't work in practice, it seems that it has done it's job in returning these people to the EU via Ireland.
UK cities and towns will see lots of homeless tent encampments like we have in Canada if they don't sought this mess out soon..
Does it matter how many, yes the answers are on the streets.
If the Irish feel it is wrong to send failed asylum seekers to Rwanda they should adopt them.
Not wanted not welcome get rid
They wont recieve any benifits from ireland .dublin convention you claim from first country you arrive at.
Where the hell was that then because it sure as hell wasn’t the UK
Why the actual eff has thos taken the best part of a decade?!
They were giving money to go to ireland
4:40 She is so correctly explaining in right points & host as a senior rather encouraging her he is Deming & overlapping ignoring the points rather discussing more in dept. Not impressed
Physical disability and mental illnesses like a veteran with PTSD or someone with paranoid schizophrenia, they should be given help, those who feel anxiety and depression largely due to life, pure and sumple brutal life, should not be given any help. I have a friend with rheumatoid arthritis she struggles to walk and drive, she needs a mobility car. She was recently rejected for a mobility car but another friend's brither just got one because he's in the autism spectrum.
Can someon explain how that's fair or logical? We've entered an era in which mental health is put above physical heakth it seems, especially when it comes to disability.
How can you have an african woman complaining about Irish people saying no but calls em far right. Ireland will erupt soon and we will see the petrol being thrown like the 70s n 80s.
This mindset needs to change, not do them any favours by making life not fit for purpose? Life is a struggle for everyone, everyone every where are full of entitlement?
Still the boats keep on coming
Who told u lreland are sending them back Their not Gov want more in
What if this was the way America received some of its slaves.
They volunteered, possibly
Is it still an exchange,we send some over to Rwanda and bring some of the Rwandan people back to the UK. I'm sure it was in the bill before,I may be wrong.
Maybe they all just want a good pint of Guiness!👌
IF IRELAND CAN SEND MIGRANTS TO US. WE CAN SEND THEM BY FERRY STRAIGHT BACK TO FRANCE . IT WILL COST A FEW POUND BUT WORTH EVERY PENNY .
I wonder if they praise Allah that they've reached a predominantly athiest country.
The lovely eu policymakers
Lol.
He is a Monster abusing and bullying poverty line poor and sick in pain weak vulnerable people who don't know how to cheat rob and lie to become rich
All these young migrants arriving at the port of entry with no passport. It’s all smoke screen you are letting in the enemy ..don’t think with your heart think with your comment scene before it’s too late ☝️
Rent free accommodation
English means racist
covid disabled my wife in 2020
What dreadful ill informed reporting.
4:16- last financial year the goverment had to give everyone on benefits an extra £1200 because benefits are so appalingly bad compared to eu countries, the governent have been found guilty of denying people with disabilties rights.
If potential places to house these immigrants are dilapidated, put the immigrants to work putting them into livable condition
Irelands problem.
Problem solved.
The xure to Anxiety is cognative therapy, confronting your fears and finding out theres nothing to fear.
Work and conecting to othrrs is part of that therapy.
Where are they going to put them, here EU errrrrrr I mean Ireland we have visitors for you, lol
Ffs stop rustling 🙄