ISO Stats & Best Attachments! | Modern Warfare Gun Guide #45

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  • čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
  • Welcome to Modern Warfare Gun Guides! In this series I break down and share all of the important stats as well as best attachments and setups for every gun in Modern Warfare. In today's episode we're going to be covering the new ISO SMG! What do you think of this gun?
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  • @domblaze
    @domblaze Před 4 lety +1798

    I really don’t understand why they chose to make the 50 round mag so bad. Meanwhile the MP7 is running around with 60 rounds with -4% movement and a negligible ADS loss.

    • @gonnegottkehaskamp1667
      @gonnegottkehaskamp1667 Před 4 lety +80

      @@SmoothCruizer37 This thing is made by B&T, right? Thats an austrian company, not german. Same language, different country.

    • @sheldondrewett4123
      @sheldondrewett4123 Před 4 lety +43

      @@SmoothCruizer37 apc9 is a Swiss gun

    • @bluesolace9459
      @bluesolace9459 Před 4 lety +23

      And people say the MP7 isn't broken lol

    • @jacobcline8925
      @jacobcline8925 Před 4 lety +76

      To be fair, the mp7 uses much lighter ammunition

    • @BasedMace
      @BasedMace Před 4 lety +8

      MP7 is German

  • @Rukir
    @Rukir Před 4 lety +803

    I thought for sure this was going to be the "Jack of all trades, master of none" smg, but it's actually just the "master of none" smg

    • @bossmicky9256
      @bossmicky9256 Před 4 lety +5

      😂😂😂😂

    • @JustASleepyFox
      @JustASleepyFox Před 4 lety +38

      I mean from my "testing" it seems to be the master of hip fire

    • @christophermenard4466
      @christophermenard4466 Před 4 lety +48

      the jack of all trades smg in my opinion is the striker 45 its pretty meh but it can do a lot of things decently

    • @youssefbenali4070
      @youssefbenali4070 Před 4 lety +67

      @@christophermenard4466 MP7 can do everything well, great rof, good range, good magazine capacity, great hipfire, good ttk, good mobility.

    • @christophermenard4466
      @christophermenard4466 Před 4 lety +12

      @@youssefbenali4070 tru but the range dropoff is actually pretty short and it cant 3 shot kill

  • @BT-by4rv
    @BT-by4rv Před 4 lety +299

    You know the downsides are massive when ace's voice goes "now ALL of these upsides DO come..."

    • @pilotomarcos610
      @pilotomarcos610 Před 3 lety +4

      Bt......
      ARE YOU ALIVE?!,!! I MISS YOU!!!!

    • @BT-by4rv
      @BT-by4rv Před 3 lety +1

      @@pilotomarcos610 yup, rocking the good life in florida, northstar and I got married and ended up with 1 reaper

    • @pilotomarcos610
      @pilotomarcos610 Před 3 lety +3

      @@BT-by4rv ._.
      I will not question about how the heck yoa procreated but ok
      And why you din't go with jack???

  • @cloud_rusher
    @cloud_rusher Před 4 lety +633

    The fact that it’s been barely a day and a half and we already have a gun guide for one of the new guns just shows how dedicated Ace is with his content creation :) Thank you for this!

    • @XiNightmareZiX
      @XiNightmareZiX Před 4 lety +4

      hope he sees this bro

    • @danielinacar
      @danielinacar Před 4 lety +6

      It’s seriously not as hard as you think.

    • @highfivetolife
      @highfivetolife Před 4 lety +4

      People need to jump off his lap and stop copy/ pasting this comment everytime he posts.

    • @lllllll5990
      @lllllll5990 Před 4 lety +1

      dan sham x right ain’t that hard to grind a game during the day pendemic n upload a video on it

    • @danielinacar
      @danielinacar Před 4 lety

      @@lllllll5990 He didn't have to grind at all, either. He just hops into a private match.

  • @ominoustoaster
    @ominoustoaster Před 4 lety +172

    Other youtubers: oMg tHiS gUn iS bRoKEn
    Ace: here are the stats and attatchments have a nice day

    • @handbanana5888
      @handbanana5888 Před 4 lety +2

      That's because the other CZcamsrs want to dominate people who are using this while using the fennec or mp5.

    • @mw29
      @mw29 Před 4 lety +2

      Let’s just say other YTers gotta eat and they gotta get clicks somehow aside from making good content (because hardly anybody does that)

    • @BT-by4rv
      @BT-by4rv Před 4 lety +11

      The *NEW* 1 SHOT FR 5.56 CLASS SETUP IN WARZONE
      ACURACY 10
      DAMAGE 10
      FIRE RATE 10
      RANGE 10
      (DONT SLEEP ON THIS) (GONE SEXUAL(

    • @slazerlombardi
      @slazerlombardi Před 4 lety

      You're appreciated.

    • @mattrg320
      @mattrg320 Před 4 lety +2

      Most other youtubers seem to be saying this gun is pretty lousy. Because it is.

  • @owen9517
    @owen9517 Před 4 lety +1187

    The recoil after the first shot is social distancing at its finest

    • @Bartiii9
      @Bartiii9 Před 4 lety +7

      So what is it 2m or 1, 5 🤭🤭🤭

    • @Bartiii9
      @Bartiii9 Před 4 lety +44

      ALL BULLETS MATTER

    • @javiermontoya3901
      @javiermontoya3901 Před 4 lety +10

      Bartosz Fąk ALL BULLETS MATTER, ALL BULLETS MATTER

    • @wezzlybear
      @wezzlybear Před 4 lety +3

      Theres no explanation better than this. 😂

    • @SimFootballFanatic
      @SimFootballFanatic Před 4 lety +10

      It feels more like view-kick to me. The gun flops up and down but doesn't pull that hard, in my opinion. I haven't played COD in a while and my wife wanted me to try it out. It was okay, hit marker machine from what I can tell

  • @filthyrando3632
    @filthyrando3632 Před 4 lety +682

    How to use this gun: Add fully loaded so that your pistol gets more bullets and just use your pistol.

  • @UrBoiJ17
    @UrBoiJ17 Před 4 lety +80

    I love that ace already did a Gun guide for one of the new guns when I’m barely tier 4

    • @TheGodOfRageXx
      @TheGodOfRageXx Před 4 lety +7

      I have not even been able to play the new season and this guy has a completely broken down a gun, mad respect for Ace that guy is insane

    • @isaack4046
      @isaack4046 Před 4 lety +3

      im still updating😂

    • @haranselcuk5522
      @haranselcuk5522 Před 4 lety

      I don't think it's bad gun by any means I've got gold on almost every SMG so this one coming out ihave to get gold on it so I've grinded it a lot long shot mounting etc and I don't think it's the worst gun it's not grey or anything to write home about but it's not awful it just depends on what you're after insurance slightly worse but I really think at least for me me that's negligible

    • @hansmaulwurf8475
      @hansmaulwurf8475 Před 4 lety

      I guess he just bought the battle pass tiers to unlock the new guns to be that fast.

  • @bobthebuilder9509
    @bobthebuilder9509 Před 4 lety +336

    *Base Stats*
    0:21 Damage + Multipliers
    1:00 Rate of Fire + Time to Kill
    1:44 Ranges (Base, Suppressed [NOT INCLUDING NIGHTSHADE!], and HC)
    2:49 Hipfire
    3:01 Idle Sway
    3:09 Recoil
    3:36 Handling (ADS, Sprintout)
    3:52 Ammo Capacity + Reload Speed
    4:33 Mobility (Movement + ADS Strafe Speed)
    *Unique Attachments*
    4:46 FTAC 225mm Dominator Barrel
    5:20 FSS Revolution Barrel
    5:58 ISO 140mm CQB Barrel
    6:40 FSS Nightshade Barrel
    7:51 30 Round Mags
    8:27 50 Round Drums
    *Loadouts*
    9:15 Generic SMG
    10:51 Mid-Ranged Versatility
    11:44 Conclusion
    *PERSONAL NOTES*
    Just looking at the ISO’s range, I suspect MW wanted to make a fast-firing SMG mixed with an AR to give it a bit more range (especially with the Nightshade Barrel); something like a BO2 Peacekeeper. The problem is that the ISO’s first shot recoil pretty much ruins its ranged potential, so you’ve got a SMG that punishes you for not hitting center mass and up and isn’t really viable at a distance. If you want CQC power, why not pack a MP7, and if you’d rather be better at a distance, why not take the M13?

  • @Aboso
    @Aboso Před 4 lety +585

    Lol 10% movement speed decrease this has to be a bug Edit: The base gun has 20 rounds with the 30 round extended magazine a 1.5% movement speed decrease is added witch would mean that the 50 round extended magazine should only give 4.5% movement speed decrease not a 10%

    • @brandonbautista9308
      @brandonbautista9308 Před 4 lety +58

      Fr it should be like a 3% or maybe a 4% movement speed decrease

    • @tjember_ren1729
      @tjember_ren1729 Před 4 lety +59

      Lol ikr I laughed when I saw that. An smg with the movement of an lmg is never heard of

    • @Trignial
      @Trignial Před 4 lety +10

      What's stopping people from just using mp5 or mp7? I think IW has a thing with just slapping as much drum mags into guns as they can and make using it such a hassle. The 60 round mag for mp7 only has a 4% ms decrease(based on ace's vid a long time ago). I don't understand why they would release a gun like this and make it's stats sub par.

    • @legendarny_panda
      @legendarny_panda Před 4 lety +4

      Ak 75 round drum mag also has 9 or 10 % ms penalty which makes in unusable in warzone and nobody complains about that xD

    • @quickshot4050
      @quickshot4050 Před 4 lety +25

      Panda because it’s 75 rounds in a gun that shoots very slow, this gun shoots fast and has a 50 round mag that punishes it severely.

  • @grandmasteryado8478
    @grandmasteryado8478 Před 4 lety +31

    The developers sneezed when they were sliding the “decrease movement speed” bar for the 50 round magazine.

  • @derickstark4261
    @derickstark4261 Před 4 lety +356

    I feel that this would actually be a decent weapon if they added a 10 mm conversion (or some conversion that takes away the limb penalties, or increases the range by about 25%. That combined with the nightshade barrel could give it a great place in the game, in my opinion. The way I see it, they won’t change the base fire rate or damage, so perhaps adding a conversion kit can increase its effectiveness (like in the case of the AK, MP5, or Uzi). If it’s going to be comparable to the P90, then perhaps make it unique by swapping ttk for more range

    • @CODJoma
      @CODJoma Před 4 lety +18

      Maybe there will be a secret attachment coming out later like the Uzi .41 AE rounds cause I really hope they do...

    • @epicgamerzfail4575
      @epicgamerzfail4575 Před 4 lety +19

      Really just giving it anything to make it stand out would be nice. Rn it's just a generic fast firing smg that's worse than all the others.

    • @aaron2997
      @aaron2997 Před 4 lety +3

      I was actually surprised this didn't have an ammo conversion.

    • @utopicdistortion4330
      @utopicdistortion4330 Před 4 lety +3

      The range is already good. If more is increased then it would take the place of the striker 45 as the smg with the most range. The point of this gun is to be a fast firing gun but with good range. But because it tries to be good at multiple things it becomes not very good. The vlk rougue shotgun is a example of this. It tries to be the middle ground between the r9-0 and the origin.

    • @sheldondrewett4123
      @sheldondrewett4123 Před 4 lety +12

      There should be an apc45 conversion bc that's what there is in real life also the real rpm is 1080, cod ruined what should be the best smg in game.

  • @bmkorean1
    @bmkorean1 Před 4 lety +40

    I thought of an attachment that would make this gun just as good as the top performing smgs: add an underbarrel attachment that lets you attach an mp5 to the bottom of the gun

    • @wumbr6467
      @wumbr6467 Před 4 lety

      movement speed tho, sad times

  • @wilbert3842
    @wilbert3842 Před 4 lety +35

    I’m guessing the conversation about adding new guns for this season went something like “What if we made a p90, but gave it a 20 round mag”

    • @calo4684
      @calo4684 Před 4 lety +9

      “What if we nerf the piss out of the p90, cut it’s magazine in half, and then for shits and giggles, take away 5 more?”

    • @allenatesha655
      @allenatesha655 Před 4 lety

      will shaffran this is a perfect description

  • @Gemini-Iceland
    @Gemini-Iceland Před 4 lety +510

    Below average stats, with big punishments for the "special" attachments and bullet capacity that is unusable in Warzone. Why did they even add this gun? :P

    • @knightofstruggle685
      @knightofstruggle685 Před 4 lety +154

      And honestly did we really need another smg we already got one last season I would rather have a new sniper or marksman rifle

    • @js123able
      @js123able Před 4 lety +28

      Honestly, there is no reason to use it whatsoever

    • @utopicdistortion4330
      @utopicdistortion4330 Před 4 lety +27

      It will probably take sometime to be decent. Just like the vlk rogue.

    • @sheldondrewett4123
      @sheldondrewett4123 Před 4 lety +32

      Well it's one of the best in real life so thank call of duty for ruining it

    • @js123able
      @js123able Před 4 lety +22

      sheldon drewett right? Isn’t this the new smg that the us army adopted. I always thought they made the m4 and mp5 so op because they have seen so much action in real life. Seems kinda weird they would make the apc9 counterpart so crappy

  • @jawaad7862
    @jawaad7862 Před 4 lety +75

    Ace: take the no-stock and the FTAC collapsible off of all your guns now.
    Also ace: *uses FTAC collapsible attachment*

    • @DangerZone_GetRektDontCry
      @DangerZone_GetRektDontCry Před 4 lety +1

      he said that at a very early stage after the not so big nerf. those make the gun shake a lot but didn't really get a nerf to recoil

    • @autokid311
      @autokid311 Před 4 lety +2

      xNoExcuses- I keep finding some no stock M4s and MP5s. We gotta get a nerf on long barrels because that’s pretty much why no stock feels like it has no recoil

    • @DangerZone_GetRektDontCry
      @DangerZone_GetRektDontCry Před 4 lety

      @@autokid311 no it doesn't

  • @xplodax
    @xplodax Před 4 lety +417

    So this thing is just as bad as the launch day Uzi, huh...

    • @widowdvsk
      @widowdvsk Před 4 lety +21

      Yes so hopefully they buff it or add a ammo conversion to it

    • @Williplier
      @Williplier Před 4 lety +6

      I love this thing this thing is a Lazer beam kit it with recoil controll and the last barrel you unlock it's like a mp7 with less recoil

    • @Williplier
      @Williplier Před 4 lety +3

      Shit kills from another time zone it's like an assault rifle

    • @mattiaroman8386
      @mattiaroman8386 Před 4 lety +15

      @@Williplier but with less range, bullet velocity, less bullet in the magzine, less accuracy and less mobility if you put the 50 round mag

    • @SrFlink
      @SrFlink Před 4 lety +4

      @Doge Gaming shreds a third part of all other smgs

  • @JohnAndJohner
    @JohnAndJohner Před 4 lety +99

    How did they hold onto the gun since release and still release it in this state?

    • @halrold7369
      @halrold7369 Před 4 lety +14

      No player feedback for a gun they've kept in the devbox. Honestly, it seems pointless releasing this when the Fennec/Vector already is in the game. They should max out the movement speed (I mean, look at the size of it) and maybe give it a slight damage buff so that it can three hit to upper torso within 10-15m

    • @LegendInThaMakin
      @LegendInThaMakin Před 4 lety

      They should have given it the fastest ads or something

    • @dillonc7955
      @dillonc7955 Před 4 lety +11

      Honestly they should allow akimbo for this gun. Statistically it's an MP7 with more kick and half the ammo capacity, so they might as well make it the most fun SMG while they're at it.

  • @FilthySnek
    @FilthySnek Před 4 lety +47

    I was actually really disappointed that there was no 10mm conversion like the real gun, that really could’ve pushed the damage values on this gun

    • @lanemontoya518
      @lanemontoya518 Před 4 lety +1

      I think having a .40 or a .45 conversion would be better. Otherwise you'd just have a worse MP5/10

  • @B_Skizzle
    @B_Skizzle Před 4 lety +562

    How to use the ISO:
    Step 1: Pick a better gun. There is no step 2.

    • @user-gw4kr5mk7w
      @user-gw4kr5mk7w Před 4 lety +1

      Hehe

    • @chilltank1052
      @chilltank1052 Před 4 lety +8

      How to use it v3 step one: pick up the uzi
      Step 2: get th AE rounds
      Step 3: stretch it's range
      Step 4:destroy the the people who uses the iso
      There you go

    • @skippyhd3180
      @skippyhd3180 Před 4 lety +1

      Boring

    • @bakes1324
      @bakes1324 Před 4 lety

      Use it as a machine pistol.

    • @B_Skizzle
      @B_Skizzle Před 4 lety +3

      You’d be better off using literally any other SMG with overkill.

  • @AdanFS
    @AdanFS Před 4 lety +220

    Why is this the only gun that is severely punished for an extended mag?

    • @lucas.gomes.
      @lucas.gomes. Před 4 lety +47

      Aug with the 60 round 556 ammo is about the same. But it's a different ammo type, so it is understendable.

    • @FrostyFTL
      @FrostyFTL Před 4 lety +6

      10% lmfaoooo I saw the gun and was slightly happy cause it looked like my style: mobile but can have range with recoil control; and then I saw the mag movement penalty hahaha

    • @candycaneshank
      @candycaneshank Před 4 lety +32

      Wow. The new SMG with all its best attachments is worse than a P90 with no attachments.

    • @FalbereChan
      @FalbereChan Před 4 lety +1

      I feel like IW is using this gun to test balance for their next CoD game they're gonna develop and release in 2-3 years time, because the current MW meta is ext. mags with no stock makes it really a big meme on the gunsmith etc

    • @davitdavid7165
      @davitdavid7165 Před 4 lety

      This means you should use the 30 round mags,but i mean the p90 exists sooo...

  • @zixx977
    @zixx977 Před 4 lety +18

    Already damn the work ethic is crazy

  • @theankotze1292
    @theankotze1292 Před 4 lety +63

    Its looks and the stats sounds like it's the scar of the SMGs

    • @dillonc7955
      @dillonc7955 Před 4 lety +10

      It honestly looks like a baby SCAR if you add either of the longer barrels.

    • @alanyesilipek7959
      @alanyesilipek7959 Před 4 lety +1

      scar is the best gun in HC imo :) and yeah this gun looks good with the long barrel attached

    • @ytngillz2091
      @ytngillz2091 Před 4 lety +2

      Alan Yesilipek ak is the best hc gun for sure

    • @juanpalacio7068
      @juanpalacio7068 Před 4 lety +1

      Wish it hit as hard as the scar. This gun is a fucking hitmarker machine.

    • @purplecheats3231
      @purplecheats3231 Před 4 lety

      But in MP the scar isn’t even that bad. Watch ImMarksman use it in SnD.

  • @smittygir4
    @smittygir4 Před 4 lety

    Hey man, I just want to thank you for all of your amazing in great depth and detail videos about call of duty. Honestly Im done playing this one for this year, but while I was playing it you taught me so much on how to set up my classes the best and I used a ton of your data to make my classes the best for my playstyle. Thank you a lot for your dedication and research, you've been a massive help during this years COD. Thank you again man.

  • @stas7378
    @stas7378 Před 4 lety +38

    What to do when you run out ammo and the enemy is not dead:
    ●Pull out your pistol and finish them off
    ISO:"laughs in instant reload

    • @lllllll5990
      @lllllll5990 Před 4 lety +2

      so u wanna finish him off?? 😏

    • @juanpalacio7068
      @juanpalacio7068 Před 4 lety +3

      Meanwhile ur enemy is laughing off the 15 hitmarkers u just gave them and they didnt die.

    • @byz99kaz61
      @byz99kaz61 Před 4 lety +1

      Pull out the swords

  • @autokid311
    @autokid311 Před 4 lety +19

    How the ISO stats were made:
    IW: the pre buff M13 was trash, so adding a 4 shot kill range and better mobility would make it better. To balance that out, we just hurt the recoil, lower the mag capacity, hinder the mobility of extended mags attached, and make it the slowest killing smg in the game. Done. Balanced

    • @roberrandrei8655
      @roberrandrei8655 Před 4 lety

      You're trashing this gun for no reason. It has great recoil and I like the iron sights, I consistently get 40m+ kills with this gun and it's pretty damn nice. You just don't know how to play lol.

    • @satin1717
      @satin1717 Před 4 lety +2

      @@roberrandrei8655 Cool. Its still garbage tho.

    • @roberrandrei8655
      @roberrandrei8655 Před 4 lety

      @@satin1717 if you're too bad to do good with it doesn't mean it's garbage 😂

    • @autokid311
      @autokid311 Před 3 lety

      @@roberrandrei8655 I know this is late but I said stats not how it felt to play with it

  • @adamlubert3404
    @adamlubert3404 Před 4 lety

    I’ve been waiting for this one! Great job

  • @clementherissard
    @clementherissard Před 4 lety +4

    Thanks for your work!

  • @jefft7256
    @jefft7256 Před 4 lety +4

    It would've been nice to see the recoil with those recommended classes, since there's now multiple attachments affecting it. I assume that first shot jump is severely mitigated with the nightshade and merc foregrip, but your visuals help so much more than just me testing it out in multi. Especially since the ISO isn't in the COD Modem Warfare Wiki app yet (my favorite place to do gun comparisons)

  • @I_am_ENSanity
    @I_am_ENSanity Před 4 lety +3

    This pretty much reminds me of the Striker. You can use it, you can be good with it, but honestly it needs some love to become viable in comparison to other guns.

  • @HARD_TIMESGAMING
    @HARD_TIMESGAMING Před 4 lety

    I just wanted to say I appreciate you bro like all the time you gotta take to make these videos that’s actually can help us get better at the game I know it ain’t easy. You’ve really made me a decent player in cod it just seems like you know what you talking bout and I just had to say thanks man keep doing what you doing

  • @m4TT5
    @m4TT5 Před 4 lety +1

    Already got a gun guide the day after the gun comes out. Great work as always ace.

  • @SuperROJOJO
    @SuperROJOJO Před 4 lety +35

    I expected more from a gun that was added this late. The ISO's stats are ass :P

    • @ZedsDeadZD
      @ZedsDeadZD Před 4 lety

      But it looks like the Honeybadger with the last barrel.

  • @seankyleus675
    @seankyleus675 Před 4 lety +12

    how'd they manage to release a gun that needs a buff upon release?

  • @SibzProductions
    @SibzProductions Před 4 lety +2

    Based off of the B&T APC-9g, this version has a lower receiver meant to accept glock mags. It would've been cool if they had the option in the gunsmith to kit it like the regular APC-9 pro though, I like the look of the APC-9 with the base B&T lower

  • @MrStonehengeX37
    @MrStonehengeX37 Před 4 lety +2

    I don’t mind the first big jump because I generally find myself starting at the chest, I end up on the head without much adjustment because of the first bullet hop. Everything after is very controllable

  • @lookimnotracistbut5695
    @lookimnotracistbut5695 Před 4 lety +29

    I litterally just finished watching your first impressions of this gun

  • @CloneByDesign
    @CloneByDesign Před 4 lety +10

    There’s something about this weapon, and I don’t know what it is because it sucks on paper, but I do really well with it. Like nearly 2.0 KD with it across ground war and regular multiplayer. It’s one of my favourites.

    • @kevinkim9620
      @kevinkim9620 Před 4 lety

      same here. it feels really good for some weird reason

    • @calo4684
      @calo4684 Před 4 lety

      It’s basically just a matter of preference and play style. Some people love using the Kar98k but I’m hesitant to use it because of the slow rechamber speed. Especially when I have an extreme run-and-gun play style.

    • @mattc8196
      @mattc8196 Před 4 lety

      Slice The Cheese gotta practice and master reload canceling my friend. Pain in the ass, but can be the difference of a win/lose

    • @lucienskinner-savallisch5399
      @lucienskinner-savallisch5399 Před 4 lety

      Yo same!! I don't know what it is because the gun should suck but I consistently rack up double the kills of the next best player in my lobby.

    • @ExOTiC1234
      @ExOTiC1234 Před 4 lety

      Its because its hit registration is pretty good. It doesnt feel awful to use like many other guns.

  • @Xionik
    @Xionik Před 4 lety

    Always look forward to these every season!

  • @khye1642
    @khye1642 Před 4 lety

    I maxed out my ISO last night, a great combo for attachments that I used was the Muzzle Break & Commando Foregrip. It helps with stabilisation a whole bunch

  • @aimmhigherr
    @aimmhigherr Před 4 lety +3

    Idk bro maybe its placebo but i go off with this thing. At the end of the day im gonna use it because it feels nice to me🤷🏽‍♀️

  • @jotaAC2
    @jotaAC2 Před 4 lety +28

    IW just arent able to add a new SMG that breaks into the meta. The closest one was the Fennec. How can they say in the in-game description of this gun that it is designed to dominate close range fight if It literally sucks at it?

    • @johnathanlemus5584
      @johnathanlemus5584 Před 4 lety +8

      Gotta protect the MP5! -Joe Cecot

    • @itzimperiumxvi2620
      @itzimperiumxvi2620 Před 4 lety +6

      They wouldn’t dare de-throne the MP5

    • @jotaAC2
      @jotaAC2 Před 4 lety +4

      @@itzimperiumxvi2620 Exactly, its the best SMG since day one! I dont mind it being a strong SMG, or even the strongest, but whats the point of adding DLC guns if they just cant compete?

    • @jackieboy3528
      @jackieboy3528 Před 4 lety +4

      Fennec is trash, takes 15 hits to kill someone while a pistol with the same ammo take a third as many rounds.

    • @jotaAC2
      @jotaAC2 Před 4 lety

      @@jackieboy3528 I think its fine at close range, but the MP5 is so much better, more versatile and easier to use that I never use the Fennec

  • @matthewmoran8661
    @matthewmoran8661 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for getting the guide out so quickly

  • @Sheeeeeeeen
    @Sheeeeeeeen Před 4 lety

    Ace I 100% agree with your opinion on this gun and where it stacks up with the competition. However it feels super fun to use which I think is why I’ll keep using it

  • @theankotze1292
    @theankotze1292 Před 4 lety +50

    This gun needs a buff IMO

    • @dillonc7955
      @dillonc7955 Před 4 lety

      They should give the 30 round mag by default for this weapon, while scrapping the 20 round mag and alter it to a 40 round mag. Also it needs 20/80 reserve ammo. If you run something other than the M19 or Renetti, you'll probably be out of ammo at 6 kills into a streak.

    • @theankotze1292
      @theankotze1292 Před 4 lety

      @Big Prick I dont think its absolutely terrible, just sub par and it needs a bit of love. A 20rnd mag with such a shitty TTK and the 50rnd mag making it an LMG aswell. This needs to be better balanced

    • @theankotze1292
      @theankotze1292 Před 4 lety

      @@dillonc7955 I also think the 50rnd mag's movement speeds needs a serious buff!!

  • @the_appointed1142
    @the_appointed1142 Před 4 lety +3

    The build he is using I'm some of the gameplay reminds me the the rmc-12 or the Spectre I think it was called in BO1

    • @jefft7256
      @jefft7256 Před 4 lety

      Spectre had no recoil though, it's a great value Spectre

  • @AyoJeezy
    @AyoJeezy Před 4 lety

    Ace man you’re awesome you already got this gun maxed out and a video for us with everything and it’s been out one day 😂

  • @mr.quidlo9245
    @mr.quidlo9245 Před 4 lety +1

    Woorkin fast! Thanks dude

  • @zachiguess28
    @zachiguess28 Před 4 lety +18

    Instead of giving us 45-60 rounds for the fennec...they just decided to add a slower shooting one

    • @abanomex9038
      @abanomex9038 Před 4 lety

      This weapon's bullet speed feels a lot faster and responsive than the Fennec's.

  • @haonanzhang6759
    @haonanzhang6759 Před 4 lety +30

    Just make this a secondary weapon, problem solved.

  • @joeymartwick7026
    @joeymartwick7026 Před 4 lety

    Ready for your AN guide!!

  • @Ben-uc9xn
    @Ben-uc9xn Před 4 lety

    Thank you ace! Just unlocked this dmg this morning

  • @cliftoncline3372
    @cliftoncline3372 Před 4 lety +75

    I've had a bad feeling about this SMG ever since I saw it lol, its just so bland

    • @birbdad1842
      @birbdad1842 Před 4 lety +8

      Somehow I have been doing exceptionally well with it. Idk why, it feels good in my hands. Maybe it's the range it has that makes it feel like a small AR.

    • @CODJoma
      @CODJoma Před 4 lety

      ThoroGaming yeah this is one of my favorite smgs now!

    • @luka9843
      @luka9843 Před 4 lety +2

      yeah we dont really need any more smg's imho

    • @Guest-iy3tc
      @Guest-iy3tc Před 4 lety +2

      That's until you meet an mp5, an mp7, or a fennec

    • @cliftoncline3372
      @cliftoncline3372 Před 4 lety

      @@birbdad1842 I dunno, it seems a bit pointless when you can just no stock or skeleton stock an AR if you want that feel with a much better outcome? I just wish it was a more usable SMG or a different gun in general.

  • @sainsburysvan9111
    @sainsburysvan9111 Před 4 lety +4

    My friends said the 50 round mags were bad... But 10%... Damn infinity ward

  • @BronsonHarrington
    @BronsonHarrington Před 4 lety

    Thx for the tip about using the M19 to boost ammo
    Its very useful when you first unlock this and are running around naked!

  • @xiREJMERKZzHD
    @xiREJMERKZzHD Před 4 lety

    I was using this in scrims yesterday and it preformed pretty well against the mp5 and Uzi. For some reason it's has the mw2 Ump 45 feel to it

  • @thephao4327
    @thephao4327 Před 4 lety +7

    MP5: Hmph, I am still a god

  • @gebcrafter
    @gebcrafter Před 4 lety +83

    i fail to see the redeeming qualities of this gun. i feel like whatever job it's trying to do in the range department is beat out by guns like the striker, and that gun doesn't even do its job well

    • @dillonc7955
      @dillonc7955 Před 4 lety +21

      It would've been nice if this gun exclusively allowed akimbo. I know akimbo won't fix this gun's issues, but it would compliment its great hipfire.

    • @nickking9691
      @nickking9691 Před 4 lety

      @@dillonc7955 oh it totally would

    • @oscarortiz1529
      @oscarortiz1529 Před 4 lety +6

      Dillon C I thought the same thing. Making it the only akimbo capable smg would give it some kind of niche at least

    • @abanomex9038
      @abanomex9038 Před 4 lety

      This gun has such a comfortable spray pattern that i dont mind the downsides, to me it has been super reliable, and getting HS has been really nice...
      However no stock mp7 is too good, so idk.

    • @themarauder6108
      @themarauder6108 Před 4 lety

      Striker melts people in hardcore, i've turned it into a one shot mini sniper.

  • @KingPeezy14
    @KingPeezy14 Před 4 lety

    Sheesh, Ace is putting in that work to get these stats out. I actually started playing Modern Warfare more because of you even though I still think the game is bad because I find it fun using attachments and stuff that are statistically the best and trying to make the best class possible

  • @evanjones6657
    @evanjones6657 Před 4 lety

    Thank you for including hard core damage ranges !

  • @snowfugitive3318
    @snowfugitive3318 Před 4 lety +22

    - worst time to kill of any smg
    - big recoil for 2nd bullet
    - 20 ammo per magazine
    Yeeeaaa maybe this smg isn't that good

  • @SweatyTryhard
    @SweatyTryhard Před 4 lety +10

    So happy about the RYTAC AMR!!!

  • @kirisuna4203
    @kirisuna4203 Před 4 lety

    Already has a gun guide out on this weapon that's true dedication right there.

  • @lionyosef1818
    @lionyosef1818 Před 4 lety

    Great analysis as always, i was waiting for your thoughts on this gun for warzone though 😥

  • @neoevergreen3017
    @neoevergreen3017 Před 4 lety +4

    Question: Does the Revolution+Monolithic give you more range than the nightshade?

    • @mcjelloman-1158
      @mcjelloman-1158 Před 4 lety +4

      No. And it has worse downsides.

    • @Hovis_Enjoyer
      @Hovis_Enjoyer Před 4 lety

      Yes :)

    • @quickshot4050
      @quickshot4050 Před 4 lety

      No, the revolution gives a 35% range increase and the monolithic a 7.5% range increase which is 42.5% range compared to the nightshade’s 45%.

  • @sliMELB
    @sliMELB Před 4 lety +40

    What is the point of this gun? Would much rather have had the Intervention.

    • @dannyflanagan4791
      @dannyflanagan4791 Před 4 lety +3

      i dont really see the point of this gun either but what would the point of an intervention be? we already have 3 bolt actions (and a lever action) and another one coming mid season. like, if they added it it would just be a slightly different ax50 or hdr, which you could probably already achieve with existing attachments. idk why everyone gripes in the comments about lack of snipers in this game, there’s so many they created a new category to split them up a bit. the dmr category is just sniper rifles with faster stats/less damage and access to lower magnified sights. i just wish they would add more unique and interesting weapons in any category that feel different than any other weapons, eg an94, renetti burst, rytec, mk9 60 mag. the iso sucks because it’s stats are awful but also because it doesnt bring anything new to the game. the intervention would also probably bring nothing to the game. i think it would be cool as an ax50 blueprint tho for the people that like the look of it.

    • @reuben82726
      @reuben82726 Před 4 lety +2

      They keep adding SMGs and ARs. They really should just add more weapons in the other weapon groups. The intervention or the R700 would’ve helped the Sniper/Marksman category or they could also add a decent secondary or even a new shotgun. Nobody touches the shotguns so a good new shotgun would help shake up the AR/SMG meta.

    • @CalebPerez
      @CalebPerez Před 4 lety +2

      Reuben... two LMGs, a sniper, two marksman rifles, one and a half new shotguns, a new pistol... but sure, nothing but ARs and SMGs.
      SMGs and ARs are meta IRL cause they are so darn good at what they do.

    • @dannyflanagan4791
      @dannyflanagan4791 Před 4 lety

      Mingue Kwak the r700 design predates the vietnam war and is based off the mauser (kar98) design. both designs have been modernized since, see the synthetic stock versions of the kar98, but are functionally extremely similar guns. i think the r700 usually fires a slightly weaker bullet too even. so i’m not sure what your point is. modernized mosin nagant rifles are pretty common in recent conflicts. but i really hope the r700 is interesting, maybe fits in the balance as something between kar98 speed and the ax50 damage. youre right that there isn’t much unique weapons but i’m just saying, there’s no need for another bolt action. in a month we’ll have 5 the cover the spectrum of fast but low damage/velocity mk 2 to slow but high damage/velocity hdr.

    • @reuben82726
      @reuben82726 Před 4 lety

      Caleb Bergthold The weapons you just mentioned just can’t compete with the meta
      They are not viable and if they were at some point, they surely have been nerfed to the ground by IW.

  • @soccer21ctm
    @soccer21ctm Před 3 lety +2

    I personally love this gun and I treat it like an assault rifle with 50 rounds and the corp combat holo sight with blue dot and just tear people up no matter what map. Plus using dead silence and the nightshade barrel makes sneaking up on people a breeze

  • @Timochat_
    @Timochat_ Před 4 lety

    This is the best content about MW on the whole platform.

  • @sethbrown2618
    @sethbrown2618 Před 4 lety +3

    Why can’t they just give us a gun that can compete with the mp5 I’m tired of seeing everyone use one gun

  • @KingPeezy14
    @KingPeezy14 Před 4 lety +3

    Time stamps spaced out so it’s easy to click 😂 (In progress):
    Damage - 0:22
    Rate of fire - 1:00
    Time to kill - 1:19
    Range - 1:46
    Hardcore range - 2:30
    Hip fire - 2:49
    Idle away - 3:01
    Recoil - 3:09
    Ads/sprintout speed - 3:37
    Ammo - 3:52
    Reload time - 4:17
    Movement & strafe speed - 4:34
    🔫 _Barrels_ 🔫
    FTAC 225mm Dominator barrel - 4:57
    FSS Revolution barrel - 5:21
    ISO 140mm CQB barrel - 5:59

  • @markpangilinan7770
    @markpangilinan7770 Před 4 lety

    I haven't touched the ISO yet, but I'll get to it when I start ranking up the season 5 battle pass either tomorrow when or on Monday.

  • @ruuuk9
    @ruuuk9 Před 4 lety +1

    Im hyped for the video about the AN-94

  • @sgggoldrnjr4967
    @sgggoldrnjr4967 Před 4 lety

    I've been enjoying it, got it up to lv 46 and already had long shots completed, and most of the other camo categories almost done. May not be the best, but its definitely a worthy smg

  • @UnyPhi
    @UnyPhi Před 4 lety

    The mag info was the best part

  • @thesaltiest1666
    @thesaltiest1666 Před 4 lety +1

    I actually love using the iso for certain maps like atlas superstore, rammaza, and plenty of other maps

  • @rashid_6151
    @rashid_6151 Před 4 lety +1

    i know you’re focusing on season 5 weapons at the moment, but can you make a video comparing integral suppressors to the monolithic suppressor like the kilos whisper barrel or the predator barrel.

  • @stylo7805
    @stylo7805 Před 4 lety +2

    We appreciate this Ace

  • @katbranchman155
    @katbranchman155 Před 4 lety

    I use the nightshade, the 50 round drum, the ftac elite, and the collapsible. Mobility downsides are negated and you get all the range buffs with an aggressive mag size for taking on multiple opponents.

  • @samkerridge3868
    @samkerridge3868 Před 4 lety

    This man's content is God teir

  • @zen517
    @zen517 Před 4 lety

    I like the vid before I even watch it cuz Ace is the GOAT.

  • @ozzy7471
    @ozzy7471 Před 4 lety

    The revolution barrel paired with the monolithic suppressor gives you a bit more range than the nightshade. At the cost of using an additional slot of course.

  • @Alex-ij2el
    @Alex-ij2el Před 4 lety

    For your second suggested class setup, i think it's better to use the stippled grip instead of slight of hand since the gun have already a fast reload to have more ADS speed since we are using the nightshade barrel

  • @brian_dyin
    @brian_dyin Před 4 lety

    I love how you can turn this into an absolute no ads lazer and a decent mid range smg

  • @DanPyjamas
    @DanPyjamas Před 3 lety +1

    I actually really like the ISO. I've temporarily swapped it in to my MP5 setup and My MP7 Shipment setup and I'm enjoying it. I love that Nighshade barrel. It surprises me how well it does as an Assault rifle, whilst still keeping some of the benefits of an SMG (depending on the other attachments). It's a win for me.

  • @delsinreid3944
    @delsinreid3944 Před 3 lety +1

    Yo my Iso on Warzone is completely different and truly my favorite/best gun. But I dig your setup.

  • @valuxbox9594
    @valuxbox9594 Před 3 lety

    For me u deserve as much as people like teepee to be a host or caster for cod cdl people dont realise how important your contribute to public knowledge is

  • @starkidforlife136
    @starkidforlife136 Před 3 lety

    I love this gun. I use the no stock, nightshade barrel, 30/50 round mags, sleight of hand and a gi mini reflex. this thing isn’t bad at all with these attachments

  • @H-L..
    @H-L.. Před 4 lety

    Really surprised at this, it feels amazing to use

  • @DaTurkeyslayer
    @DaTurkeyslayer Před 4 lety

    May I have a reccomendation. When you are going to include gameplay along with two different loadouts, put clearly identifiable skins on them (like the red and blue tiger, but obviously those would require a bit more playtime with the gun, so whatever works), so that all throughout the video we can clearly know which loadout you are using for that clip to have a better feel for if that's the route we want to go with it. Just a thought! Love your videos, keep up the hard work!

  • @NightSeekerOfTheDark
    @NightSeekerOfTheDark Před 4 lety

    A good thing to add to it is a conversion kit with 5.7x28 more damage and velocity would be cool

  • @rishikiran9503
    @rishikiran9503 Před 4 lety +1

    Plz do a best melee weapon vid again this time with the dual swords as well

  • @echorogue3113
    @echorogue3113 Před 4 lety

    Hey xclusive for the hidden patch notes thing it feels like the merc foregrip doesnt increase movement speed anymore might wanna check that

  • @bloomflower4513
    @bloomflower4513 Před 4 lety

    I legit was just thinking about you, and here we are.

  • @rinchise
    @rinchise Před 4 lety

    Would love a ads, frame comparision with all ads options. I'm curious what's better tac laser vs grip tape.

  • @elitetraveller522
    @elitetraveller522 Před 4 lety

    I love it, I have only used it in customs but I enjoy it, my class setup i have designed it for hip fire
    Iso smg, hip fire god - 'tommy gun of modern warfare '
    Barrel: FSS Revolution
    Laser: 5mW Laser
    Stock: FTAC Vagrant
    Underbarrel: Merc Foregrip
    Ammunition: 50 Round Drums

  • @someweeb3650
    @someweeb3650 Před 4 lety

    It would be interesting if they made it so it had a really high move-speed that could be made a lot higher without the stock. Like up there with the uzi.

  • @duncanshilcock464
    @duncanshilcock464 Před 3 lety +1

    My favourite gun, with Nightshade and it's like a lighter AR, which my style is more suited to.

  • @fruroo9723
    @fruroo9723 Před 3 lety +1

    I feel like this is the mw version of the lc10, as someone who’s used both. I kinda wanna test this out paired with a sniper

  • @gonzalomartinez1256
    @gonzalomartinez1256 Před 4 lety

    I'm doing great exactly as the last class but instead of the stock I use a reflex so I can use it as a SMG/AR type of gun (mp7 like)

  • @marcusduck
    @marcusduck Před 3 lety +1

    if anyone is curious, the current ISO after its buff has a base 4 shot kill range of 17m, revolution barrel will increase it to 23.5m and 24.4m for the Nightshade barrel(this one is a lil disappointing cause it's not a 45% increase like what Ace has stated here)