Is Siri SMARTER in iOS17? Here's 15 tests to find out...
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In this video, I'll be asking the question, 'is Siri ACTUALLY getting smarter?', and comparing Siri in iOS17 with Siri in iOS16.
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Chapters
0:00 - Intro
0:41 - How I'll be testing
1:50 - Hey Siri vs Siri
3:02 - Can it tell if I'm speaking to it, or about it?
3:47 - Who are you?
4:10 - Send a message
5:10 - Back to back requests
6:25 - Read an article to me
7:11 - Remind me about this
8:00 - Multiple timers
9:03 - Access Settings
10:11 - Weather
10:28 - Directions
10:49 - Timezones
11:16 - Translations
11:43 - Show me photos of my pet
12:35 - Find me emails
12:53 - Final questions
13:25 - End - Věda a technologie
The biggest problem I have with Siri, is when you it ask a question, and it responds with "Here's something I found on the web". I wish it would just read the results to me. Same with the HomePod Mini, which tells me to ask again from my iPhone.
I would argue that Bard or ChatGPT are different applications of a personal assistant altogether compared to Siri or Google assistant since they can’t do anything to manipulate your device, like setting timers, opening apps, controlling your smart home etc.
I've never seen a side-by-side review of OS's, on identical hardware. This was really cool, thank you!
Yes, for me a senior it’s hard to keep up with all the settings and how to find them. Siri often can’t tell me and just gives me an internet search. Apple iPhone,and ipad should have an easy help search for their own products available through Siri.
If it helps, you can swipe down in Settings to show a search field and type what your looking for.
This isn’t just a “senior’s thing”. I’m not a senior (getting close, but still…), and I’m regarded as pretty tech savvy in my workplace, and I struggle often to find where the right setting is parked. It really has to do with Settings’ adherence to an old-school hierarchal menu model. It should be “looser”, with each setting not necessarily parked in only one spot, and with choices that don’t go nearly so deep into the hierarchy.
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE your videos! I like to think of myself as a pro when it comes to iPhone knowledge but even I learn stuff from your videos! Keep up the awesome work!
I noticed there was actually a difference in the Dutch translation. The iOS17 had a bit more grammatically correct Dutch phrase. Look at the position of the word "hier"
Congratulations Tom. Wonderful news.
wishing you 1millon views ...you deserve it
Hello, I am a 50 year old Austrian newbe to this and find your way to describe the functions even for an ADD person like me easy thank you so much … due to illness I reached the bottom of society so I wont be able to support you financially, but I am most grateful that you share your knowledge. My iphone was a gift so I am happy to have found you to help me use it‘s functions 🤗🤗
I can’t ask Siri “whats the weather like at home”. It comes up with the weirdest answers, like, I don’t know who you are”, or “There's no one in your contacts named "Weather"!
Some of the most basic stuff is impossible!
This is a very enlightening video. Well done! I very rarely (if ever) use Siri because of its limitations.
Thanks. Hope they'll roll out some new things when ios17 is properly out.
Thank you for this video. IOS16 you can ask remind me about this and if you don’t add anything else it will remind you about website and email. But as soon as you add date or anything else it fails. So this upgrade is important to me and my workload.
7:55 - Remind me about this …. Was not able to generate a reminder for a specific day of the week (always responded with “What do you want to be reminded about …). It seemed to only be able to generate the reminder based on time relative to “now”. I.e. Remind me in 30 minutes; Remind me tomorrow; Remind me in 3 days; but not Remind me Thursday. This did work for a specific date (Remind me about this January 18th). With Siri, there seems to always be a bit of experimentation involved …. And helpful videos online such as this.
Thanks again for all of your content.
Another excellent Siri video. I’m so glad you do this because no one else does. It’s like Siri is completely forgotten by most of the tech people and I don’t look to see or hear a mention of Siri at the coming Apple event. I don’t know why it is expected to wait until iOS 18 for any remedial work. Perhaps after iOS 17 actually comes out there will be more additions. Meanwhile, thank you very much.
Great video Tom, thanks! Can you tell me if dictation has improved??? Whenever I dictate, for some reason, it stops even though I am still talking usually after about 90 seconds. We were told this was fixed in IOS16 and it’s extremely frustrating.
Yeah this is what I want to know is dictation any better because dictation on Android is great
Very interesting video thank you. I’m looking forward to iOS 17. Any small incremental improvements are always welcome. Regarding the inability of iOS 16 to run multiple timers, I just use the alarm and say “set me a ten minute burger alarm“ / “Set me, a six minute, French, fry alarm“ - You can do this as many times as you like and it works really well. I’ve never really fully understood the difference between the timer and the Alarm!
Then you clog your alarms section and have to manually delete them all! That's absurd.
@@cldn2 - It might be absurd to you…..but it works for me, I use it daily (for 3 years) never deleted an alarm and no problems whatsoever.
@@cldn2just ask “Hey Siri” delete all my alarms. It’ll be done with, one command.
Setting multiple timers is a nice upgrade. I use them for cooking all the time.
Your videos are awesome!! Siri I hate it with a passion. I use it a lot on text message and have to always spend time fixing what it types...
How about an alarm volume toggle other than entire system volume being needed to be adjusted?
I’ve wanted for some time to ask Siri to enable or disable cellular access for specific apps. I use the podcast app and typically leave cellular disabled. Occasionally I thought an episode downloaded that didn’t and I am willing to use data for that. But, I never need that unless I’m in the car driving, making it too late to stare at my phone and dig into the settings. I equate Siri having access to settings to a necessary safety feature.
3:09 I’m glad apple put that in so that Siri would know if we’re talking to her or not. It frustrates me that Amazon Alexa can’t do that. In my house we’ll sometimes talk about our Amazon Alexa. Well if we said “I’m glad Alexa…” she would think we were talking to her and say a random thing in response so now we just call her “What’s her name” when referring to her. Glad we don’t have to do that with Siri.
Funny story kinda related. One time I was listening to an audiobook in my room. One of the characters was named ALEXIS (pretty sure) and so my Alexa kept thinking it was talking to her. I know this won’t happen with Siri because I don’t know anyone besides Siri herself who has the same name, but I’m glad Apple made sure she won’t respond when talking about her
Siri is quite good at predicting where i want to drive and I do adore the Siri watchface in my apple watch. No messing around with settings, just information.
Siri resisting every chip in its body to not activate when PHT was speaking about it
😂
2023 siri is basically just 2018 google assistant
Another useful Siri iOS 17 change (not 100% sure it's new) is the ability to request a Sleep timer, which automatically switches the timer's alarm sound to Stop Playing.
On Apple TV? Cause I have not seen this
I compared my iPad M1 , iPhone 14 and apple watch Ultra on Siri repond, the results I get is as iPad more responsive follow by iphone and apple watch ultra my take is the processor play a big difference follow by the software
For me, 'Remind me about this' works on iOS 16, but only via my HomePods. For example, I have the webpage or email I want reminding about on my phone, say 'Hey Siri, remind me about this tomorrow" my nearest HomePod will respond and confirm that it'll remind me tomorrow. I can then check the reminders on my phone and it'll be there. If I trigger Siri on my phone and ask, it'll give the same response as in the video and not be able to do it.
Does iPhone 11 support back to back Siri request?
I rarely use it on my phone, per se. But I couldn't get along without Siri thru CarPlay in my car. It is certainly NOTHING like ChatGPT...but ChatGPT (in the forms I've used it) doesn't talk to me, either.
For virtually all your examples, all I can say is it’s about time!! I’m very frustrated by a computer’s stupidity. It just doesn’t seem right for a computer to say, in essence - “I don’t understand.”
Siri really needs an update, Google assistant is SO much better, but Google Home sucks and Homekit is WAY better but Google assistant can’t access homekit. It is so frustrating that I can’t have 1 good voice assistant and have to use 2 separate ones.
"Hey Siri. Take a selfie". Opens camera. (.... Four years later...) selfie never taken. Android completes this simplest of tasks in 5 seconds time.
I usually use Siri while driving. At home it’s just as easy to use the iPhone without Siri. Maybe I’ll try Siri more when 17 arrives to the general public.
Siri Question - Can it turn on the Hotspot? (iOS 16 and/or iOS 17)
Use Case: Little one asks me to share the internet while I'm in the middle of bobbing and weaving through traffic.. plus I guess normally driving situations too.
I'm a current Android user, looking to switch back to iPhone (last I owned was iPhone 4) when the iPhone 15 Pro comes out, so I don't have a device I can test it on at the moment.
I heard of Apple creating their own ChatGPT-kind of AI. I am hoping that will become the real Siri 2.0.
I wonder in iOS 17. if the announcer says the name of the Tampa Bay rays outfielder name José Siri what Siri be activated and listened for instructions? 14:21 14:21
I just had a question about how when I had my iPhone 6, Siri was more like personable. She just seemed to have my personality now it’s just seems so cut and dry ?
I actually am looking forward to being able to just say Siri to my iPad to invoke it and require. Hey Siri on the HomePod if that’s possible. It would finally make it easy to get the correct device to answer. Is that possible?
I think Siri cannot be compared to Bard or ChatGPT in general. Siri is meant to control apps on our Apple Devices more than anything else. And frankly, neither Bard nor ChatGPT can do this or control my homekit devices. However, I think general questions and context-based questions or two commands at the same time / combined commands like "Turn on the light and dim to 50%" should be an easy job. I miss these little things in Siri. But I am sure that Apple with handle this sooner or later... :-) Great Video anyway and not a big surprise that Apple only comes up with very small improvements....unfortunately...
A quick tip, the most important device which is actually stupid is that HomePods don't do back to back requests yet, you have to invoke Siri every request, so now I have set up my iPad Pro on a stand working on the "siri" command and left the HomePod to listen for Hey Siri so I can control my Apple TV, the iPad Pro quite happily processes multiple command like the phone.
Might I suggest that you point out to Apple that when you requested Siri to divide £101.88 by 3 the £ sign vanished too.
What would happen if when discussing Siri as an Apple feature one said “Siri is an apple feature” rather than “a great Apple feature is Siri”? In other words, will Siri respond if it is the FIRST word spoken in a sentence (rather than a request?
multiple timers didn't work with me ): others ok
now work I must say set then the time and call what is it the name then timer
Thanks for making this video. I'm always curious to see what progress Apple has made with Siri because it is *so* far behind both its competition and the expectation that Apple set for a digital assistant in the Apple ecosystem by using mantras like "it just works" and "magical experience"; and this has been true for *so* many years that I've just about lost hope that Apple will (can?) close this huge gap in capability. And as your video demonstrates, yet again Apple disappoints with useful but meager incremental updates that help only in singular use cases rather than imbuing Siri with real intelligence that improves the overall experience across the ecosystem. What a huge multi-year lost opportunity and a real shame. If Siri were a large part of why I bought an iPhone, I would have stopped buying them years ago.
Just as an example of what I mean, try this: I wonder how Siri of iOS17 would respond to "define tender"? Does it ask you 9 times if you "want to hear the next one?"
Disappointing that Apple no longer, "just works" with a magical experience supporting user delight. However, I was happy with how easy the iPad mini 6 has been to work with, but it's *much* too expensive for reduced function and size.
Not true, most things still work and still delight me after 20 years, but Siri need to be taken down to the river and drowned
On the choosing which messages app to use, if Siri really was smarter it would default to the last messaging service you used to message Tom. That is bare minimum, having me make another choice either by voice or by physically tapping the screen is still more work.
it's sad that Siri still isn't available in my language - polish - thanks to our language great features like 7 grammatical cases etc.
How about testing siri pro ?
My HomePod going crazy RN...
I asked Siri, ”What time is it in Tokyo?” and got an answer. I think your question to her was too wordy. I’m still mid-video but wanted to mention before I forget. So far 17 doesn’t seem very exciting, but I don’t use Siri much.
Thanks for sharing!
Sadly the just say Siri function is language dependent and not available here.
“Siri just got even smarter” - Candycane Foxy, an IOS 18 Developer mode Beta Tester
i use google assistant with siri. works pretty good, i think. otherwise, google assistant is much better, I think.
So, when you are asking SIRI to do multiple tasks, how do you get it to stop listening?
And does Hey SIRI with 17 work the same old way? Or don’t you have a,choice. Sort of wondering how much it listens to you…..?
He answered this question.
My Apple Watch is been able to do multiple timers for a long time. I didn’t realize that iPhone couldn’t do the same.
My iOS 16 iPhone. Did react on Siri without the hey 🤬😭😂
I’m on ios17 beta and my phone is configured to spanish. The Siri command is still with the “Hey” first, and it’s written as such on the settings. I wonder if the simple “Siri” command is still only available for the English language setup…
On Apple website there is a note in the bottom of page "iOS 17 Preview" that says, "Siri" is only available in English language now.
@@kelticd5397 I thought that Siri is pronounced in the same way in every language and accent🤣
Apple will have to seriously raise up Siri, the norm is chat-GPT and it’s really impressive. Now that Microsoft dropped Cortana, Siri is the very last in line. If Apple wants to keep its market share, they must do something more serious then that, otherwise people will move on.
4:37 Here in Mexico everyone uses WhatsApp. At first it was annoying having to say "via WhatsApp" after every message, with time it got used to it and now you just say "send a message" and it automatically defaults to WhatsApp
On "finding Mitzi" -- would it work if you had keyworded her photos?
I’d already assigned her name to her photos in the photos app.
I’ve been replacing Hay with an expletive before Siri how long time now. Nearly useless.
12:00 for me it worked, after I had my phone learn whom my pets were in some pictures.
Yeah, I’d already labelled our dog a few days prior, still didn’t work for me 🤷🏻♂️
@@ProperHonestTech there's just been a new update, and now it also doesn't work for me anymore... 🤷🏻😳🤔
One of the big advancement is that Siri can do many things while being on airplane mode.
11:31 Curious about Translation to Dutch. I am onIOS 16.
The translate app usually spits out a message that Dutch is not a supported language, but when you select a Dutch text, long press and do a translate it seems to work at times.
Dutch is in the translate app on iOS 17
The dutch translation is different, we would need a dutch speaker to tell us which one is most accurate.
About 40% of the questions you had succes with, didn’t work here! Incl Siri. Here it’s still Hey Siri. Have the same version as you do. Only im in Holland??
I was able to get “show me my photos of (my dog’s name)” to work
How do you never break eye contact with the camera
You just make me use my iphone in an efficient way and not just for reels
Multiple Timers - This DOES work including naming on current OS on …….. Apple Watch 😂😂 (WatchOS 9.6)
Sir is bad but Google assistant is also really bad too. First thing I do on a new iPhone is disable Siri that saves a lot of aggregation 😂
I think that Apple know about Siri and Thing like chat gpt
but Apple is security conscious and perhaps making Siri" smarter" at this time poses misinformation
or security issues.
For kicks and giggles I tried this alternative; “Hey THIRI: WHAT TIME IS IT.” Guess what? It works.
I hate how Siri seems to have a hard time listening for a command after every iOS update that I've ever had, but idk it's probably just on mine.
Exactly! I have to shout to make it work!
I highly doubt that. Apple seems doesn’t take Siri ‘siriously’
I see what you did there... 🤣
Siri is real pain. Doesn’t listen to me after saying “hey siri” over and over again, plus she doesn’t pick up what I say accurately. Needs to be updated or replaced with the ai thing.
Can I get siri to speak her response as Google does
None of that works on my iPhone 14
Come on Apple, release your AI and integrate it into Siri for the love of God!
Paywalling the PDF isn't a nice move.
I should work for free right?
“This is a video about telling Siri set a 5 minute timer.”
Siri is still awful in terms of recognizing what I’m saying, and reading text aloud. Can’t seem to distinguish between street addresses and plain old numbers. Example 5113 Main Street becomes five thousand one hundred thirteen main st (doesn’t even make the abbreviation into the correct word at times). Phone numbers are Aldo beyond its ability to understand at times. For these reasons alone, and others, I can’t reliably use it for much of anything. Ask it to read a text message and “you’ll have to unlock your iPhone for that”. I’m driving and using my watch. Useless imo
I love it, my wife hate it and even more with the voice (sexy English) I use for mine 😂
More seriously, I heard that Apple has already invested $20 billions+ on IA! Is this true?
Siri in iOS 16 is deaf or the dictation in Spanish has been compromised, it worked much better years ago, maybe is a problem of the iPhone 13 and 14 microphones, but the overall experience is worse than before, you must speak to Siri as to a 3 years old baby in order not to mess up the transcription. Not to mention with iOS 16 Siri stop working with car's bluetooth (unless you have carPlay). So iOS 16 Siri is the worst Siri ever. Hope 17 version solve this problems. I'm using Siri just to set timers, I guess Siri is a very expensive tool for just this little help.
I really think Siri should be updated. It's really a bummer when compared to real AI, how stupid Siri actually is. I could imagine this would improve the whole experience along your Apple devices if Siri is improved. Especially the HomePod would benefit from this as in its current state, it's more or less not that useful. Another thing I would like to get changed with Siri is the way it reads announced notifications that are in another language than the device language. They at least updated this recently, so it would not automatically read the notification if it's not in the device language, but it would be great if Siri would switch to the message language to read it out properly
Siri is so useless I don’t even use it. The times I need Siri is when I absolutely need hands free. Being given a bunch of websites or being told I can’t do that while your driving makes Siri completely unfit for purpose. Siri is certainly not a hands free assistant, in which case there is no point using it. The other thing is it still can’t recognise your voice which means half the time you need to pick up the phone to unlock it as well.
This must be common opinion as I don’t in fact know a single person who uses Siri.
Apple launch new software versions with massive fanfare but most of the time deliver little of real value. Their updates are evolution and not revolution.
As an example there are so many videos out there saying how great the latest TVos is, but the highlight? You can now have 5 icons on the top menu bar instead of 4. 🤦🏼♂️
Unfortunately the Siri improvements look to be of a similar level.
Ah well.
Hopefully Apple is coming out with a new AI to implement into Siri. Feel like Apple is falling away behind compared with Google and Microsoft.
Have you used Bard? It’s not good. Plus they’re not really the same as an assistant like Siri or Google assistant
EndoftheRoad-I agree with the senior who wished they could use Siri to search in Settings. But that could be the start of something much bigger as the prior comment about AI implies. Why not use Apple data internally along with a specialized large language model and machine learning to give Siri the ability to be a CUI, or Conversational User Interface. This would be typical Apple, taking prior, proprietary IP and extending it with new technology to innovate something better. What do you think?
Siri is getting smarter in English, but it sure is duuuuumb in Norwegian. I can't do shit with it.
You are on a video platform, do people really want a PDF? Do you also snailmail printed versions? :p I do appreciate your video content though, thank you for educational content.
Started the service in February, and have over 500 members and growing. So, you tell me?
Siri sucks. I use just for basic repeatable things. I use bing for many more inquiries than I do either google search or Siri search.
In the end Siri is the worst assistant. And Ive heard the backend of Siri is super primitive and its actually not smart at al but pretty dumb
The timer isint really because of Siri. It’s because Apple finally!!!! Made us have more than one timer
sadly Apple got complacent .This is what big companies become sooner or later .
I really believe you don’t truly understand how Siri works and how it responds. Also, most of your requests are not common daily needs for average users. Unfortunately, this is the first video of yours I don’t like because it seems to me like you didn’t do enough research to do it justice. I’m using iOS 17 and it is soooooo much smarter in so many ways you missed, like continuing a conversation effectively through context and interaction.
Care to leave some specific examples? That’s more use to me than simply telling me you don’t think I did enough research.
@@ProperHonestTech Hey Tom, thanks for replying and sorry for the negative reply. We often reply based on how we’re feeling that day. Most frequent iOS users know that before we had to be very specific, and almost robotic when making a request. Now, with iOS 17, we can be a little more human. Here are some examples from my experience:
- I personally use Reminders very often, almost daily, and before, if I asked something like: “remind me to do blank at 3pm” pronouncing it too flat, Siri would create a reminder with the whole enunciated phrase with no time set to it, stead of “Do blank” set to 3pm. Now it not only understands me really well, but it also understands context of the request stead of just what was said.
- In previous OSs, if I mispronounced a word and tried to correct it mid sentence, especially for Reminder requests, it would almost always make a mistake on the request or even worse, reply saying it did not understand what I said. Haven’t had that problem in iOS 17 so far, which means it is way smarter at understanding how humans talk and as users we don’t have to be so robotic.
- If I made a big enough pause mid-request, Siri would often stop listening and not understand what I wanted. I noticed that now, Siri understands pausing mid request a lot better and silently continues to listen for a while longer till you gather your thoughts to continue it.
- I can make several questions about the same subject in a roll with no physical interactions. I use this very often to find out more info about a public figure. Not only that, but seems to understand international names a lot better too.
- It also understands the context of requests a lot better like it understands what you’re trying to ask for before concluding it, connecting and gathering information from multiple native and some 3rd party apps (like WhatsApp and CZcams)
- English isn’t my first language, and although I speak like a native, because of switching between my mother language and English, sometimes my accent may be thicker, but I notice Siri almost never, to never, misunderstands me when that happens.
- Because I use two languages to type often and I live in Brazil, making a request to take me somewhere or create a reminder/event for example, often requires me to use Portuguese words/names. I’m deeply impressed at how well Siri understands it in iOS 17 now. It’s almost like it can understand both languages simultaneously, which is not technically a feature atm.
- It’s not yet perfect, but one request I made to Apple several times through the past few years was to make Siri reply in the same speech volume as me, meaning, if I whisper a request in a very silent environment, it should be more aware and know to whisper back stead of replying in full volume. That isn’t a feature yet, but I noticed it doing it from time to time, like last night I asked Siri for an alarm and a reminder in a very low voice and it replied in the same volume. It wasn’t a whisper but it was very low. But just before getting into bed I also made a request in a higher volume and it replied in the same volume. I did not change the volume in between these two interactions. I tried it today and it did not work, but it seems like they’re working on it.
- I always call my dad using WhatsApp Video as he does not have an iPhone. Yesterday I asked Siri saying only “Video call Dad” and Siri for the first time asked me back before continuing “Do you wanna use WhatsApp?”, which means it is becoming aware of apps I use and for what. The most interesting part is it didn’t ask “Do you wanna use Whatsapp or FaceTime?” It only asked if I wanted to use WhatsApp. So it is aware I only use WhatsApp to call my dad.
- It seems to understand variations of a requests with the same context. Before we would typically ask Siri “Do I need an umbrella today?” But now I can ask “Do I need to get ready for rain today?” Or “Is it raining where I’m going tonight?”. This last one is very interesting because it is now aware I have and event with a location set later tonight and it gives me the answer based on that location stead of where I am and I checked it was correct. The weather for where I was and where I was going were different and it knew.
I never use it. Can’t be bothered with stupid stuff like that! 😐
Yes, it's less intelligent than ChatGPT or Bard, but you left out that all of what's happening with Siri is happening directly on the device itself. It's not sending the queries off to a distant server. What this means is Siri is vastly more private than ChatGPT or Bard could ever hope to be.
I wonder why Apple has not acquired or developed an AI so Siri is not so feeble, all the "new" stuff seems a little puerile.
Siri is embarrassingly bad as it is. I wish Apple would do better.
To me Google Assistant surpasses Siri.
Who loves it? Siri is still the worst. I do not get how Apple still keeps it around. Who is getting paid millions to keep this dumpster fire burning?