WHO'S THE BEST THREE COLOR COMMANDER IN cEDH? ROUND 2 - Play to Win Gameplay
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- čas přidán 19. 09. 2020
- We're taking a second look at some of the best three color commanders in cEDH.
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FOOD CHAIN UKKIMA - A Turbo Food Chain deck looking to win quickly with efficient win cons - www.moxfield.com/decks/fyfeFF...
INALLA WIZARD COMBO - Utilizing spell seeker as a one card win con, this deck has a 20 step combo to win the game - tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-w...
DEREVI STAX - Locking up the board and beating down with Elesh Norn is the name of the game - tappedout.net/mtg-decks/b-i-r...
ELSHA TOP - Although this list has been updated a bit since this filming, the deck still tries to generate fast resilient storm wins - www.moxfield.com/decks/tj910q...
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I want to see "Who's the best Stax commander in cEDH?" just because a 12 hour unedited video sounds fun
That would make me so happy lmao
You my friends are special types of monsters.
I’m down. Stax is my favorite deck archetype. The energy of frustration that comes off of people when you play stax is addicting in and of itself.. it’s like a drug lol.
If enough people ask they might do it :^) peer pressure OP
I honestly don't think it would play out the way you think it would, stax decks are built to obtain parody on stax effects that hit everyone so they likely all play similar builds and similar work arounds, things that untap or make it where you can't be forced to sac all those types of things, so it may be less stax effected than any game with only 1 stax player
"I'm free!" the only valid response when dying to stax
To be fair, it is also the answer to when playing stax and the win con doesn't come. XD
I call myself a punching bag if I become a free target, due to manascrew, early targeting, or stax
Playing stax without a way to immediately end the game,
is just about the most painful thing to play against.
I have no idea what you're talking about. Playing stax and winning by attacking with hatebears souped up by Elesh Norn is the epitome of fair, clean Magic.
I play stax because the salt of the tears of my enemies are particularly delightful. Their misery sustains me.
@@tylerhiginbotham8177 LOL
"We ALL kept shitty hands."- My play group. Every game. Great vid my Bois!
The Winds of Rebuke wouldn't have resolved and milled everyone. Eternal Scourge self-exiles when targeted. Could have been relevant.
It was literally relevant next turn, there would have been 3 cards in the grave when smothering tithe was cast and it couldn't have been countered by Drown in the loch.
As a storm player in modern and kess in edh the ending pleases me.
The spinning top was so fitting lol
Yeah that was great :D
Reminds me of a 1v1 I had with a friend, where he kept a 1 land hand, because he had a T2 Rhystic, and thought he'd be able to draw a bunch of cards...
I ALSO kept a 1 land hand... because I had a Land Tax, and thought I'd be getting value...
We're casual players, but that was the SLOWEST 1v1 I've ever played!
I was really rooting for derevi to win with staxy creatures.
Eternal scourge exiles on target and therefore fizzles Winds of Rebuke
This was the first time I’ve seen Stasis in play. I never really understood why derevi had such a high salt score on EDHREC until now. Absolutely brutal. Still loved the game though!
ah yes elvish evolution
Derevi Stax makes my heart sing.
I love it!! Truuu stax.. Cam what's your win con?? You're looking at it XD beat em down.... Eventually
This is genuinely my favorite channel on CZcams.
Oh man another amazing game. Been waiting for a new game from you guys. Love it so much!!! You guys clearly love Magic and always have a laugh when playing
The spinning top
Fantastic game guys, as always love the commentary!
The vigilance on faeburrow elder is very relevant! You can use Derevi's trigger to tap other players' lands and still use it for mana post combat
Listen, I'm gonna level with you guys... I fuckin' love you guys. I love chilling after a long day at work to your gameplays! Please keep up the good work!
Why does no one counter the goddam underworld breach
Why would they? It's a perfectly fair and balanced magic card with no broken interactions at all (:
That was cool maybe one of the longest cedh games I’ve ever seen
I believe in Ukkima. One day it will show off how awesome it is.
Good vid guys.
Right on time!
This channel is the first cEDH channel I’ll be subscribing to. Love that you guys play lists similar to the cEDH primers. :)
What do you use for your dual land proxies? Are they just printed out pieces of paper, or did you get proxies made? And a quick follow-up, about how many cards do you guys proxy for these vids?
We print out a LOT of proxies
You guys should do who is the best stax commander in cEDH. It would be hell.
I felt so torn because I have three of these decks built so I didn’t know who to root for 😂
This game was a SLOG, but super satisfying to watch! Great vid as always!
Your work as a channel is great, congratulations!!! I'm not a patreon, but who knows, some time!!! 😆
Got my shirt and I rep it everytime I play magic with the boys!
Nice video, I really like it ! What's your opinion of Sea Gate Stormcaller inclusion in the Inalla deck ?
The other day just built a Derevi stax deck, damn is it addictive to play! xD
Aminatou is my favourite :P even though shes not even close to the best esper commander for cedh i just love her art and combo lines
My personal favorite cEDH commander, that happens to be 3 colors, is Tasigur
Best 3c commander for sure :)
People who enjoy playing tasigur scare me
Tasigur is not a cedh commander anymore and hasnt been for awhile. Way too slow and not strong enough of a creature
Tim D Bowery I mean I feel like if a deck is on the database, the deck is probably good enough lol
@@averyclark866 it's not unviable. It's just strictly worse than tymna thrasios and if you want to be on it you're better off playing tymna thrasios.
I think its interesting how the competitive mindset sometimes blocks some logical casual plays that would result in more chances of winning. Having 2 life and a flying commander that can be flshed any time would be a great risk for any casual player, so the logical conclusion would be to play Ukkima to try to grind some life. But it never happened.
Nice one. But also be great to see an overlay.
2:15 the Edler does have Vigilance but I'm pretty sure he tapped it to cast the Archon that got countered so Vigilance doesn't do anything right there...
Hey guys just wondering site you use for your proxy's?
I use mpcautofill.com to automatically get the images and make a mpc (make playing cards) order.
Nice proxy volcanic island
Pako and Haldan is a solid Cedh deck
I now realize that the two commanders plus the deck in a fan-whirly way look like at sad face.
Was wondering why devoted stax rather than a midrange deck with an Emiel Cradle combo or some other combo? From experience, it feels like that's the bigger direction it's been taking.
I was really looking forward to hearing what Cam had to say when he says, "I learned something very important about stax. It's hard as shit..." and then then video cuts out before he finishes! What was it!?
B E G I N
Stax isn’t just for the game, it’s for life!
Yasssssss
Oh! Oh! Do a who’s the best banned commander
Turn 2 derevi - untap noble / attack for 1 / use trigger to untap noble / tap noble to cast fyndhorn elves?
Hey guys, just so you know Pongo has a new "birdwizard" list ever since Emiel came out, www.moxfield.com/decks/Dj12VRnJjkqd-kF-mhSY1w , being able to tap everyone else's board on their upkeep and have yours untapped is dope, who knew? :)
God I love Elsha. She can win real fast. But is resilient as hell.
Could you guys come up with some themed najeela tokens?!?
I would also like this!! Najeela makes my pp feel funny.
Jeff M Honestly same I just won 5/8 games with her feeling sooo good
@@seriously_leo9177 it's so satisfying to play with her. She is a wincon on her own. It's insane. I snagged a foil copy of nature's will off tcgplayer yesterday. Alarmingly low amount of foils there. Snag it while you can ;)
Jeff M Shes super crazy and my pod tried complaining but I was like lmao I just won through combat figure it out
3 missed rhystic triggers before notion hit board. Think Cam forgot that rhystic triggers on all spells and not only non creature.
Figured grand arbiter would put in work
It was almost like he wasn’t there
Soooo am i the only one that saw that very not real timetwister hit the table?
Looks just like my timetwister.
@@Sketchyyo looks like the one from magic online. Wasnt original frame or artwork. I have two, one beta, one unlimited. The art they showed blown up on screen was correct, but the actual card that was placed on the table hat mtgo artwork and frame. So theres no way its legit. Which doesnt necessarilly bother me. I suppose no one on the channel has claimed to or not to use proxies. But theres an awful lot of black bordered alfa/beta cards in these videos and seeing that bunk timetwister gets me thinking.
The guys have said openly that they use proxies, in one of the 3 player games at the beginning of covid Dylan talks about ordering a new printer so he can print all the proxies he wants
@@cassiemay2397 ooohhhhh i did not realize that. My bad then my dudes. Im still watching either way, just to be clear. Good stuff.
Couldn’t he respond to flusterstorm with his own flusterstorm? Or he could recast grapshot?
You missed paying the extra for grand arbiter all game haha.
I don't think people were paying for the GAAIV additional cost.
When I play stax opponents see no hope and scoop, because I'm good at stax :P.
Real talk though. Do you ever feel like rushing as a courtesy to your opponents because you're so far ahead and have an embarrassment of riches and thus open yourself up to errors? Happens to me all the time cuz I'm so good at stax lol
Sylvan Library is not a may trigger. The Notion Thief steals the 2 additional draws and you have to pay 4 to even draw 1 card
Are you sure
**Correction** And this is why we read the cards... I am wrong
are you guys gonna let viewers play with yall eventually?
3:17 Winds of rebuke shouldn't have mill because it gets countered since scourge gets exile as soon it gets targeted
Love your content, keep doing it :*
I see Elsha, I upvote
Why instead of discarding Swords to Plowshares and trying to destroy Stasis with REB, you didn’t just cast Swords on Faeburrow Elder? It was the guy with vigilance that let Cam untap a land each turn and pay for Stasis. If it resolved, Cam will have to eventually sac Stasis (skipping his untap step for that turn, so better than with REB). If Cam countered it with Mana Drain, you’ll still have REB in hand as a back plan.
Shouldnt Ukkima play alluren as well? its a second food chain with a sac outlet
Why pay 1 for Signet on Turn 13 (min 11:43)? Shouldn't Cloud Key and Helm of Awakening reduce it to 0?
Cameron had a Grand Arbiter out which caused all of his opponent's spells to cost 1 additional mana so the signet costed 1 mana.
Just started, I'ma say elsha
Dont they have to pay 1 more for the arbiter?
Also looks like everybody is ignoring Augustin IV stax, no one pays after 13:10. Cameron stax them!
Best 3 color commander is xyris wheels
8:28 didnt those two just come into play that turn?
11:35 just gotta commit and call it cloudstone keyrio lol
y'all missed a lot of grand arbiter
No Brallin/Shabraaz? :(
Ok, please correct me if I’m wrong, but wouldn’t the top still cost a mana because of Grand Arbiter?
He had both cloudstone key and helm of Awakening, so it's still free
Y’all should just say if you miss mana crypt you lose the flip
What the music they use
Epidemic sound
@@PlaytoWinMTG thank you so much
best 3 color commander is Phelddagrif
What happened to the guy who used to be the top right player?
Brandon?
Lol! Cameron accidentally pronounced Fyndhorn Elves CORRECTLY... and then corrected himself, and went back to "Flint horn Elves." Hahaha... So close.
4:46
Wouldnt elish have killed a few creatures esp gilded drake
Its -2/-2 gilded drake is a 3/3
nojaboy talent right 👍🏼
I will be the first to comment one day!!!!!!
Can I draw a card?
Did Cameron even have a win con? Seriously lol
Jesus Christ, man!
Elsha is the best cEDH commander hands down. It's also the best 3 color cEDH commander. I have a list that is designed to win on turn 2 around 65% of the time. If you don't win turn 2 then you will inevitably win turn 3 or 4. You will never get past turn 4. You are basically guaranteed a win by turn 4.
I play against elsha on the regular. If anyone is winning on turn 2 then the rest of the table is fucking up hard. That or the elsha player is a punk of a pubstomper.
These decks are ass...each one is a blue deck with a splash of the other colors