New firmwares just go released for fujifilm cameras. XT5 XH2S XH2 XS20 etc. Just installed it, I can still downgrade Yes, they fixed the "Hand detection" but.... I've tested only video AF (played with it 10 minutes) and firmware 1.03 is still the best one. On 7.0 still lags behind. 1.03 is much snappier ( I downgraded again ) We'll make a video about this soon , It will probably be my last video about fujifilm autofocus because honestly I'm tired of this. This is a very easy video tutorial how it is done : www.reddit.com/r/FujifilmX/comments/1diw6qt/downgrade_fujifilm_xh2s_based_on_skups/
It appears Fuj just rained down firmware updates across many models suffering from eye focusing issues Edvard uncovered and created videos about. Updated all my Fuj bodies but didn’t test. Good luck to y’all. Edvard, keep up the good work brother! Speak truth to power. Don’t mind the Fuj fanbois. 😀
I would literally avoid downgrading - EVER. As an embedded firmware engineer - this is dangerous. You do not know what you are doing to a camera in the long term. There will be all sorts of memory maps held in flash that you have no idea will have an impact on anything now or in the future. Fujifilm will almost certainly wash their hands of you if you follow this path and have problems in the future. Best to wait for them to fix issues and keep moving forward.
I am surprised that Fuji has enough users that someone is willing to hack into and downgrade their firmware. It's good to know that Fujifilm has so many users.
I still think the best way to upgrade Fuji firmware is to sell all your fuji gear and buy a canon R8 / sony a7cii and various canon/sony lenses. Everything improved. Everything.
I hate fanboys and this guy is correct. This new firmware screwed up my X-S20. Why Fujifilm releases garbage firmware is beyond me. I made a negative review of the camera which was the honest truth and fuji fanboys got all mad.
I love my Fuji XT5 and x100F. Thankfully, I’m incredibly lazy and hardly ever update my firmware! No new issues here. Just the usual suboptimal autofocus system 😂. But I’m loving my Voigtlander 27mm f2 manual focus lens. Honestly, if I were the CEO of Fujifilm, I’d do three things: (1) Hire a bunch of Sony guys who know how to make a great autofocus system and get it rolled out as quickly as possible, (2) Get production ramped way up, so we stop announcing cameras that we can’t deliver on, and (3) commit to launching the xPro 4 sometime in 2024. Just my two cents fwiw.
There's a difference between being a fanboy and simply lying to yourself like most people do. I like the feel of my XT5, I like the IQ and dislike it at the same time. Same with autofocus. I like the sharpness of the lenses and the lens options. I dislike that Lightroom messes the X-Trans sensor and you need to use Enhance if you want all details back. I hate the worms that appear in photos in Lightroom if you don't use Enhance. I like the idea of FilmSims but at the same I don't use them in-camera. And you could to them with any camera if you shoot RAW. I used to shoot with a 450D that had "LUTs" in Lightroom, and you could also upload the profile to the camera. I dislike the autofocus sometimes. I had a 70D and a 90D before moving to Fuji and the tracking was ahead of Fuji. I've tested also Sony and it's out of this league, years ahead. And lets be honest, Fuji will not be near Sony or Canon too soon. Simple autofocus is working fine, the tracking or AF-C is the one that's shit on the latest firmwares. It isn't great on the previous ones either, but at least it doesn't show a green box when subject/eye detection is not in focus. If I compare the previous firmware to my 70D, I can say it does 90% of what Canon could do in 2013/2014 era when AF is working OK. BUT most of the time the tracking is not doing what it should, then 2 minutes later it's working OK, after that it's not working as it should again. At least be consistent... Let me work with the camera... If I'm not using the camera correctly like the fanboys that are lying to themselfes say, let me learn how to do it, but I have different results every time and I cannot learn from mistakes if doing the same thing twice gives different results. And after all I said, I still consider myself a fanboy, I just recognize and admit the flaws that my camera has. Do the flaws bother me that much? Not really, not for what I do with my camera. I do hobby photography, and most of my subjects are static in 99% of the time, so tracking is not a problem for me. In the rest of 1% of the time when I use tracking I see the problems but it's not bothering me that much so I change to other system. Nikon and Panasonic had the same issues in the past, they both managed to fix the autofocus when big reviews sites complained. Maybe in 5 years we will see a better AF from Fuji too!
The four standard replies of Fujiflakes: 1. stop focusing on the equipment, focus on improving your skills; 2. check your settings, the camera is set-up wrong; 3. don't use this lens, use the other one instead; 4. the youtubers are making things up, the videos are optical illusions and mind tricks.
Hi edvard, thank you for keeping us update regarding to fujifilm focus issues. I've been following your channel since the autofocus issues blows up. I have used Fuji XS20 since it was released last year, and this year, the autofocus issues is troubling me a lot. Everytime I shoot, I have to check every photo on the spot whether it's missing focus or not. I have shot wedding and couples frequently, but when I update to the latest firmware, even a still -family photo was missing focus. I was so furious when I check on my laptop when this happened. I shot 4 photo and 3 of them miss, but sometimes all of them were missing focus. There has been a rumour that they are launching an update this month to repair this issue, but I was afraid they would notice our voice here. I wonder when this issue is gonna end...
I am not sure - was this released the day before the new release which apparently fixed it. I am a software engineer working on real-time embedded systems - it is generally a very a bad idea to downgrade. You only have to hope they move forward. The problem is this...if you ask a team of software engineers to consider all possible firmware upgrade possibilities, they will actually have to spend more time on that, than actually fixing problems or releasing new features. The testing effort is actually combinatorial in terms of complexities - do not do what this guy suggests. It is all random and untested - and he can not predict what will happen to your camera.
The problem in here is you cant break the camera more than what It is right now, unless you make something wrong, but TBH, would be the same, useless: Yesterday I gave 2s to a teammate during a filming. He wanted to kill himself 😅
Firmware just updated. I cant wait to see your test with it. I know you'll be 100% honest and these videos have been helping me to determine what camera I guess for work. Thank you
I installed it, firmware 6.01 and I think it is the worst in the history of autofocus :) I'm hoping for a new update in next few days, and I'll wait a few days so I don't have to download it. You are right from the start 👍
Thanks for doing what you’re doing. I’ve been a Fuji user since the release of the xpro1. I’ve stuck with the system because I was invested in the lenses and enjoy rangefinder style cameras. I have an xh2s to do video work and Fuji is so far behind all the other brands now. They had a huge head start on video phase detect autofocus on Panasonic and Panasonic surpassed them on their first attempt. They need some pressure to be put on them
Insane, love your channel. Yes it's crazy, fuji has so much going for it but focusing is a fundamental requirement when taking any photo or video for that matter. If one messes up on focusing what is the use for the rest of a camera's functionality. It's all in the capturing and that capturing depends on slick intelligent focusing of all types and kinds such as eye detection to basic object detection. Caliber camera's such as yours x-h2s should not be suffering such ill focusing at all. Hope fuji resolves this quickly, they are loosing traction in the market place due to their unreliable focusing. Thanks again for the post.
edvard, thanks from the bottom of my heart for sharing this. Remember if fuji fix someday the af firmware issues, you will have been part of that change because of the reporting and exposing of the issue. Thanks, thanks, and more thanks.
I just downgraded mine yesterday and saved my settings for 1.01 on my x-t5. Autofocus is now better. Then I upgraded to 2.10 and saved the settings again. You are right you cannot restore your settings if they were made in a higher version to a lower version.
I assume the reason they changed the hand thing is for holding up something to the camera, where you may want it to focus on the item even if the eye is in view?
There's a setting called 'zone area switching' in custom AF-C settings, which allows you to tell the camera when to jump to 'the other thing'. 'Center' should mean that it won't move until the other thing is in the centre of the frame, or 'front', when it goes anywhere, frame wide, in front of the thing it's currently focused on. There's also an auto setting which is, in my experience anyway, is no use, as the camera isn't reliable in front or centre settings, so asking it to make it's own mind up is even less reliable. As @vladastojanovic4776 says below though, there's no ability to turn it off (as far as I'm aware) so the camera is always going to switch at some point, regardless of what your settings are. There is 'speed tracking sensitivity' which from my understanding sets how slow/quick the camera should be distracted by/jump to 'the other thing', but even if you have that set to zero, it'll still switch at some point in my experience. And all of that is in place before we even start on it giving you false positives, or not seeing an eye but jumping to an ear instead. That's the most annoying for me - the camera saying it's focused on one thing when it's actually focused on something else!
I have seen some videos that shows GFX new firmware is broken too so i guess that yes. Imagine spending 7000$ to have the worst AF in camera industry...
Thanks for doing these videos. 🙏 Yea, maybe Fuj is secretly watching your videos too, and maybe they get their isht together. All misspellings are intentional 😊
you d notice that fw 5.02 fixed the banding noise in flog2. and the fw 5.10 added time code . those which are particularly important for video. so even fw1.03 is better af it can hardly be considered usable
if fujirumours was right there would be an update next week to fix the af. and pls test it before your test video come out i wont update anymore pls thk u
A few days ago, Fujirumors posted about an upcoming firmware update that aims to fix the autofocus problem and add the Reala Ace film simulation to the X-T5. However, as a longtime Fujifilm user and owner of the X-T5, I'm not expecting too much. Fujifilm seems to be playing games when it comes to autofocus, which is disappointing. It's frustrating to see a decline in performance. It's high time Fujifilm stops focusing on the wrong things and addresses their autofocus issues once and for all. What good are the film simulations and beautiful Fuji colors if I end up with out-of-focus images? Thanks for speaking out on these issues. Maybe Fujifilm will listen.
My XT4 is unusable after updating it to 2.11, pictures taken are extremely dark even though the exposure compensation settings and dial is by default. It was not like this before updating. I don’t know how to fix it
There is a video "Fujifilm X-T3 AF Tracking Test" by bigheadtaco, 5 years ago. At 1:31 there is hand waving all the time in front of the face but camera was perfectly focused on eyes. 5 years latter, flagship camera and total disaster. It is hilarious!
Downgraded xh2s to 1.03 and had a wedding yesterday. Brought a6700 with myself (just to be sure and in peace) and tried xh2s. My gosh, its for real, 1.03 worked niiiiice, not as good as sony but hey, niiiiice! I dont remember having af issues at all ❤
5 things 1 use one eye in focussing setting, setting 3 in sensitivity ...clean your sensor ..use right lenses and lastly use a slightly higher shutter speed and this will enable you to capture the shop. Also be mindful of light and where you're standing and dammit stop shooting everything at 1.2 images look rubbish anyway if you shoot at 2.8 you will get much better auto focus and image quality. These are my top five Fuji tips and yes I've shot weddings with it as well and got a 94% hit rate....XT5 with viltrox 75 1.2 and 35 1.4 and just a tip viltrox is more accurate
Gracias amigo, apenas pueda le haré downgrade a mi xh2s, que versión sientes que es la mejor y más estable ? A mi me funcionaba bien la anterior a la 6.0
Hola marco, creía lo mismo que tú, que me encontraba cómodo con la versión anterior a la 6, restauré a la 5 y seguía teniendo problemas de enfoque. La 1.03 funciona de maravilla, después de usarla no recuerdo haber tenido problemas, así que te diría que si tienes que hacer downgrade, hazlo a la 1.03 😊
I know you've only explored this issue on the X-H2/X-T5, but I'm wondering if in your research for these videos, if you've heard about these AF issues happening to other Fuji bodies?
I see Fuji didn’t update the x-t50 - maybe already had the fix. I don’t do video so can’t comment but for stills photo it’s working great for me. Face detect is vastly better than it was on xe4 generation. Even on moderate lower light. Need to try a few more ace ratios at night though.
Fuji have phase dictect af since a long time and it seems they still couldn't get it right. And then there is lumix, which refused to let go of their DFD autofocus tech which was too poor in continuous autofocus and people got tired of complaining for them to adopt phase dictect which is crucial for video work. And just in short span after finally implementing it first in S5ii ,look how good their AF system in their recently released g9ii and gh7. Its almost on sony level. Like Casey on camera conspiracies jokes about😂, this time its fuji who should sent their AF developing team into a dungeon to work it out.
I shoot a majority of my professional work with manual focus and cine lenses, but I have tried AF with native lenses and had issues. Since then I haven’t touched the AF again and wouldn’t trust it. As for stills, the AF is okay, but still not on the level of the competition.
I was thinking it should be possible! There probably aren‘t as many hackers in the camera community but if we own the hardware we should be able to hack it :) I have installed magic lantern on my Canon 550D, maybe someone will make a magic lantern for the X-H2 😂 Thanks for showing! I am testing an X-H2 for the next weeks now and it is currently on FW 3.0. So far I really like the performance and af. Which version do you recommend? I don‘t do video, just photo.
@@brettgoulder5208 Lens doest matter , I showed that in my xh2s vs a6000 video. I tried it, hand detection is fixed. Video af works like fw 5.0 , but worse than 1.03
I will likely try one of my XH2S's to being 1.03 so I can really compare accurately with 5.03 (at least). I'm waiting for the shit show that is the 'fix' coming later this month. Tbh I might just get rid of one of my XH2S's and get a Canon.
7.0 is out! In Edvard we trust... Pd: something tells me 7 is not fixing the problem (may be eye detect but not multi AF dance) and Fuji has really Broken his cameras... (4am cant check anything)
I’m not going to downgrade, I’m too afraid of making things worse. Honestly, I was never bothered with Fuji auto focus, but this last time made my camera unusable. Completely unreliable.
Hi Edvard. I enjoyed watching the show with X-H2s and was planning the transition from my 5 year old X-T3 to the a6700. And then I thought: I'll try the same test as you. And so. On the Fujiflm X-T3 on 5.11, all the cases with blurry face and sharp hand are reproduced one-on-one! That's why I think that AF was better in the eyes on earlier firmware (If only I could try.. But I don't want to take any downgrade risk), but now it doesn't hit at all (I'm shooting a moving daughter of 2 years old. ~60-70% blurry with tamron 17-70 on every settings). I thought the problem was only with the X-T5 and X-H2s. Well, that's it..
Fuji is totally lost. They will need several years to overcome this if they take it seriously. Otherwise they will not be even comparable with other camera brands in next years when it comes to AF!
bro at the start : i don't want to be a CZcamsr bro now : 9th video on how fuji af is garbage. Jokes aside, there's a new firmware in town (7). Let's us know how it goes.
At this point I have a trouble believing that such big company as fujifilm would just "miss" that every firmware worsens their AF capabilities. It's crazy talk, but I call foul play. Some bs behind doors agreements with other big Japanese companies to make sure the market is segmented between those. How else would that shit happen? Every firmware, the AF gets worse and not in some weird conditions, but obviously getting just worse in every way. Mhm
Hi, I have been a fan of Fuji since I have many camera problems that they have tried to fix on gfx 100s than hardware problems on the xH2 and autofocus that the camera could not work properly also with photos in continuous mode. I did not use the camera for video work because its focus problem. Recently I have to return the camera for ever. I work now with mft lumix camera for shorting videos. The contrast autofocus with face eye recognition is good and since the combination with the lidar of Dji is very good. I believe that the lidar and face eye AI will be the future and it must be integrated into the camera body as well. I will never upgrade to full frame video for filming because of the price of the cinema lenses and because of its weight.
Dude this is awesome. Most likely this will get patched as I can see some people messing up and bricking their cameras. Ah, this reminds me of the good old days of Android CFWs but for not awesome reasons lol.
This isn't Fuji bashing. What is he saying that isn't true? We all know Fuji cameras can produce gorgeous images. You have to be honest, Fuji AF is behind the competition. The X-H2S was sold with the promise of awesome AF, and never had the chops to justify it's price. It only got worse with updates. Great body, great lenses, but poor AF compared to its advertised prowess.
Thanks for doing what you’re doing. I’ve been a Fuji user since the release of the xpro1. I’ve stuck with the system because I was invested in the lenses and enjoy rangefinder style cameras. I have an xh2s to do video work and Fuji is so far behind all the other brands now. They had a huge head start on video phase detect autofocus on Panasonic and Panasonic surpassed them on their first attempt. They need some pressure to be put on them
New firmwares just go released for fujifilm cameras. XT5 XH2S XH2 XS20 etc.
Just installed it, I can still downgrade
Yes, they fixed the "Hand detection"
but....
I've tested only video AF (played with it 10 minutes) and firmware 1.03 is still the best one. On 7.0 still lags behind. 1.03 is much snappier ( I downgraded again )
We'll make a video about this soon , It will probably be my last video about fujifilm autofocus because honestly I'm tired of this.
This is a very easy video tutorial how it is done : www.reddit.com/r/FujifilmX/comments/1diw6qt/downgrade_fujifilm_xh2s_based_on_skups/
Firmware V7 is out, when we can expect video on it?
It appears Fuj just rained down firmware updates across many models suffering from eye focusing issues Edvard uncovered and created videos about. Updated all my Fuj bodies but didn’t test. Good luck to y’all. Edvard, keep up the good work brother! Speak truth to power. Don’t mind the Fuj fanbois. 😀
2.10 is strictly better than 1.03 though no? The drops in performance starts in v3
@@williamscullion2238 I think its the same, But Im staying on 1.03 , I Dont trust the "improved af" there's a note on 2.10 with that
I would literally avoid downgrading - EVER. As an embedded firmware engineer - this is dangerous. You do not know what you are doing to a camera in the long term. There will be all sorts of memory maps held in flash that you have no idea will have an impact on anything now or in the future. Fujifilm will almost certainly wash their hands of you if you follow this path and have problems in the future. Best to wait for them to fix issues and keep moving forward.
also shared this on my community page. Thanks again!
Thank you too!
@@edvard2942 I did too!
Fujifilm has me downgrading all the way to a Nikon F2 til they get this fixed.
I am surprised that Fuji has enough users that someone is willing to hack into and downgrade their firmware. It's good to know that Fujifilm has so many users.
Fuji is such a mess. Lost their way. went from Kaizen to “no soup for you”.
Fuji's Older Cameras are much more polished and was really good, I rather keep my XE2 than have new Fujis.
@@potchinyan95 and their menus are much simpler. I don't need 5+ AF combinations settings if none of them work.
Maybe Fuji should hire that guy to fix their AF too 😂
At least hire him for doing the test. There will be no more AF firmware issues. For sure!
you know it’s a problem when you’re afraid to upgrade firmware.
I still think the best way to upgrade Fuji firmware is to sell all your fuji gear and buy a canon R8 / sony a7cii and various canon/sony lenses.
Everything improved. Everything.
Fuji, maybe open source Af algorithms and community will develop proper solutions
I agree haha
"Where are you fan boys? What can you say about this fan boys?" 😂😂
I hate fanboys and this guy is correct. This new firmware screwed up my X-S20. Why Fujifilm releases garbage firmware is beyond me. I made a negative review of the camera which was the honest truth and fuji fanboys got all mad.
I love my Fuji XT5 and x100F. Thankfully, I’m incredibly lazy and hardly ever update my firmware! No new issues here. Just the usual suboptimal autofocus system 😂. But I’m loving my Voigtlander 27mm f2 manual focus lens. Honestly, if I were the CEO of Fujifilm, I’d do three things: (1) Hire a bunch of Sony guys who know how to make a great autofocus system and get it rolled out as quickly as possible, (2) Get production ramped way up, so we stop announcing cameras that we can’t deliver on, and (3) commit to launching the xPro 4 sometime in 2024. Just my two cents fwiw.
There's a difference between being a fanboy and simply lying to yourself like most people do.
I like the feel of my XT5, I like the IQ and dislike it at the same time. Same with autofocus.
I like the sharpness of the lenses and the lens options. I dislike that Lightroom messes the X-Trans sensor and you need to use Enhance if you want all details back. I hate the worms that appear in photos in Lightroom if you don't use Enhance. I like the idea of FilmSims but at the same I don't use them in-camera. And you could to them with any camera if you shoot RAW. I used to shoot with a 450D that had "LUTs" in Lightroom, and you could also upload the profile to the camera.
I dislike the autofocus sometimes. I had a 70D and a 90D before moving to Fuji and the tracking was ahead of Fuji. I've tested also Sony and it's out of this league, years ahead. And lets be honest, Fuji will not be near Sony or Canon too soon. Simple autofocus is working fine, the tracking or AF-C is the one that's shit on the latest firmwares. It isn't great on the previous ones either, but at least it doesn't show a green box when subject/eye detection is not in focus. If I compare the previous firmware to my 70D, I can say it does 90% of what Canon could do in 2013/2014 era when AF is working OK. BUT most of the time the tracking is not doing what it should, then 2 minutes later it's working OK, after that it's not working as it should again. At least be consistent... Let me work with the camera... If I'm not using the camera correctly like the fanboys that are lying to themselfes say, let me learn how to do it, but I have different results every time and I cannot learn from mistakes if doing the same thing twice gives different results.
And after all I said, I still consider myself a fanboy, I just recognize and admit the flaws that my camera has. Do the flaws bother me that much? Not really, not for what I do with my camera. I do hobby photography, and most of my subjects are static in 99% of the time, so tracking is not a problem for me. In the rest of 1% of the time when I use tracking I see the problems but it's not bothering me that much so I change to other system.
Nikon and Panasonic had the same issues in the past, they both managed to fix the autofocus when big reviews sites complained. Maybe in 5 years we will see a better AF from Fuji too!
@@jaygreer7430 "Just the usual suboptimal autofocus system" hahahaha that made my day 🤣
The four standard replies of Fujiflakes:
1. stop focusing on the equipment, focus on improving your skills;
2. check your settings, the camera is set-up wrong;
3. don't use this lens, use the other one instead;
4. the youtubers are making things up, the videos are optical illusions and mind tricks.
I'm just enjoying the show. I'm not downgrading, just using my Sony and my XT20.
Hi edvard, thank you for keeping us update regarding to fujifilm focus issues. I've been following your channel since the autofocus issues blows up. I have used Fuji XS20 since it was released last year, and this year, the autofocus issues is troubling me a lot. Everytime I shoot, I have to check every photo on the spot whether it's missing focus or not. I have shot wedding and couples frequently, but when I update to the latest firmware, even a still -family photo was missing focus. I was so furious when I check on my laptop when this happened. I shot 4 photo and 3 of them miss, but sometimes all of them were missing focus. There has been a rumour that they are launching an update this month to repair this issue, but I was afraid they would notice our voice here. I wonder when this issue is gonna end...
I am not sure - was this released the day before the new release which apparently fixed it. I am a software engineer working on real-time embedded systems - it is generally a very a bad idea to downgrade. You only have to hope they move forward. The problem is this...if you ask a team of software engineers to consider all possible firmware upgrade possibilities, they will actually have to spend more time on that, than actually fixing problems or releasing new features. The testing effort is actually combinatorial in terms of complexities - do not do what this guy suggests. It is all random and untested - and he can not predict what will happen to your camera.
The problem in here is you cant break the camera more than what It is right now, unless you make something wrong, but TBH, would be the same, useless: Yesterday I gave 2s to a teammate during a filming. He wanted to kill himself 😅
Dude, you are the best, keep it up and thank you very much, I can work on xh2s again!
How's it been since?
Firmware just updated. I cant wait to see your test with it. I know you'll be 100% honest and these videos have been helping me to determine what camera I guess for work. Thank you
Some have already posted on the forums, and it seems to still be getting tripped up in some cases.
I installed it, firmware 6.01 and I think it is the worst in the history of autofocus :) I'm hoping for a new update in next few days, and I'll wait a few days so I don't have to download it. You are right from the start 👍
You are doing god’s work here on earth. Fujifilm should absolutely work with you to get their autofocus fixed.
Thanks for doing what you’re doing. I’ve been a Fuji user since the release of the xpro1. I’ve stuck with the system because I was invested in the lenses and enjoy rangefinder style cameras. I have an xh2s to do video work and Fuji is so far behind all the other brands now. They had a huge head start on video phase detect autofocus on Panasonic and Panasonic surpassed them on their first attempt. They need some pressure to be put on them
This video made you my new favorite camera-centric CZcamsr!
Please keep creating content.
I’ll be looking forward to your review since I just updated my XT5 firmware to 4.0
I would love to downgrade but I’m not a tech person.. I’ll wait before I jump on the Z6III
Insane, love your channel. Yes it's crazy, fuji has so much going for it but focusing is a fundamental requirement when taking any photo or video for that matter. If one messes up on focusing what is the use for the rest of a camera's functionality. It's all in the capturing and that capturing depends on slick intelligent focusing of all types and kinds such as eye detection to basic object detection. Caliber camera's such as yours x-h2s should not be suffering such ill focusing at all. Hope fuji resolves this quickly, they are loosing traction in the market place due to their unreliable focusing. Thanks again for the post.
edvard, thanks from the bottom of my heart for sharing this. Remember if fuji fix someday the af firmware issues, you will have been part of that change because of the reporting and exposing of the issue. Thanks, thanks, and more thanks.
I just downgraded mine yesterday and saved my settings for 1.01 on my x-t5. Autofocus is now better. Then I upgraded to 2.10 and saved the settings again. You are right you cannot restore your settings if they were made in a higher version to a lower version.
I assume the reason they changed the hand thing is for holding up something to the camera, where you may want it to focus on the item even if the eye is in view?
Even if so, that has to be an option toggle on and off.
There's a setting called 'zone area switching' in custom AF-C settings, which allows you to tell the camera when to jump to 'the other thing'. 'Center' should mean that it won't move until the other thing is in the centre of the frame, or 'front', when it goes anywhere, frame wide, in front of the thing it's currently focused on. There's also an auto setting which is, in my experience anyway, is no use, as the camera isn't reliable in front or centre settings, so asking it to make it's own mind up is even less reliable.
As @vladastojanovic4776 says below though, there's no ability to turn it off (as far as I'm aware) so the camera is always going to switch at some point, regardless of what your settings are.
There is 'speed tracking sensitivity' which from my understanding sets how slow/quick the camera should be distracted by/jump to 'the other thing', but even if you have that set to zero, it'll still switch at some point in my experience.
And all of that is in place before we even start on it giving you false positives, or not seeing an eye but jumping to an ear instead. That's the most annoying for me - the camera saying it's focused on one thing when it's actually focused on something else!
Real question. Does the autofocus issue occurs in the Fujifilm GFX bodies too? If not then perhaps it's the limitation of the X-Trans sensor?
I have seen some videos that shows GFX new firmware is broken too so i guess that yes. Imagine spending 7000$ to have the worst AF in camera industry...
huge respect for showing all those flaws, i really hope Fuji makes some changes!
Firmware version 7.0 is live now, I’ll be looking forward to your next video
Brother thank you. You are doing the Lords work.
Thanks for doing these videos. 🙏 Yea, maybe Fuj is secretly watching your videos too, and maybe they get their isht together. All misspellings are intentional 😊
you d notice that fw 5.02 fixed the banding noise in flog2. and the fw 5.10 added time code . those which are particularly important for video. so even fw1.03 is better af it can hardly be considered usable
if fujirumours was right there would be an update next week to fix the af. and pls test it before your test video come out i wont update anymore pls thk u
@@fllsgsys4184 I agree, newest firmwares are nice but the af is worse, I dont film flog
I’m beginning to think that some units are faulty
New fuji firmwares are out....looking forward for your review
A few days ago, Fujirumors posted about an upcoming firmware update that aims to fix the autofocus problem and add the Reala Ace film simulation to the X-T5. However, as a longtime Fujifilm user and owner of the X-T5, I'm not expecting too much. Fujifilm seems to be playing games when it comes to autofocus, which is disappointing. It's frustrating to see a decline in performance. It's high time Fujifilm stops focusing on the wrong things and addresses their autofocus issues once and for all. What good are the film simulations and beautiful Fuji colors if I end up with out-of-focus images? Thanks for speaking out on these issues. Maybe Fujifilm will listen.
Can't wait to see the big "improvements"
@@edvard2942 update has been released 😁
Thank you very much. I'm running to do a downgrade on my XH2s
My XT4 is unusable after updating it to 2.11, pictures taken are extremely dark even though the exposure compensation settings and dial is by default. It was not like this before updating. I don’t know how to fix it
Sounds like you're using some auto or priority mode. Just shoot completely manual exposure. Double check your metering mode too
@@andrescruz9448 everything is in manual as I don’t use Auto on all dials ever. I changed the metering to all 4, still the same.
There is a video "Fujifilm X-T3 AF Tracking Test" by bigheadtaco, 5 years ago. At 1:31 there is hand waving all the time in front of the face but camera was perfectly focused on eyes. 5 years latter, flagship camera and total disaster. It is hilarious!
Downgraded xh2s to 1.03 and had a wedding yesterday. Brought a6700 with myself (just to be sure and in peace) and tried xh2s. My gosh, its for real, 1.03 worked niiiiice, not as good as sony but hey, niiiiice! I dont remember having af issues at all ❤
What is the anamorphic lens from the end of the last video?
Its a mod on a cheap af lens + a streak filter, I filmed the video already, we'll be up in 2 days.
@@edvard2942 awesome, thanks
what camera do you use to record yourself?
5 things 1 use one eye in focussing setting, setting 3 in sensitivity ...clean your sensor ..use right lenses and lastly use a slightly higher shutter speed and this will enable you to capture the shop. Also be mindful of light and where you're standing and dammit stop shooting everything at 1.2 images look rubbish anyway if you shoot at 2.8 you will get much better auto focus and image quality. These are my top five Fuji tips and yes I've shot weddings with it as well and got a 94% hit rate....XT5 with viltrox 75 1.2 and 35 1.4 and just a tip viltrox is more accurate
Where can I download firmware 1.03 for Fujifilm X-H2s? please share who has it...
Hoping to see this too or version 3.01
What's your thoughts on fuji firmware 7.0?
@@michaelphilpotts4282 will post the video in couple of hours
I thought maybe I was losing my mind with the latest firmware for my X-S20 😅
Gracias amigo, apenas pueda le haré downgrade a mi xh2s, que versión sientes que es la mejor y más estable ? A mi me funcionaba bien la anterior a la 6.0
Hola marco, creía lo mismo que tú, que me encontraba cómodo con la versión anterior a la 6, restauré a la 5 y seguía teniendo problemas de enfoque. La 1.03 funciona de maravilla, después de usarla no recuerdo haber tenido problemas, así que te diría que si tienes que hacer downgrade, hazlo a la 1.03 😊
This is very useful
I know you've only explored this issue on the X-H2/X-T5, but I'm wondering if in your research for these videos, if you've heard about these AF issues happening to other Fuji bodies?
The behaviour should be on all models with the latest firmwares from april
@@edvard2942 then I don't need to worry haha, thanks for the quick reply!
Video muy útil la verdad
I see Fuji didn’t update the x-t50 - maybe already had the fix. I don’t do video so can’t comment but for stills photo it’s working great for me. Face detect is vastly better than it was on xe4 generation. Even on moderate lower light.
Need to try a few more ace ratios at night though.
Did you tried latest firmware?
Yes, check my community posts, video about it will be soon
Hey buddy 7.0 update is out! Any thoughts? Can you please test it for is😘🙃
Fuji have phase dictect af since a long time and it seems they still couldn't get it right. And then there is lumix, which refused to let go of their DFD autofocus tech which was too poor in continuous autofocus and people got tired of complaining for them to adopt phase dictect which is crucial for video work. And just in short span after finally implementing it first in S5ii ,look how good their AF system in their recently released g9ii and gh7. Its almost on sony level. Like Casey on camera conspiracies jokes about😂, this time its fuji who should sent their AF developing team into a dungeon to work it out.
I shoot a majority of my professional work with manual focus and cine lenses, but I have tried AF with native lenses and had issues. Since then I haven’t touched the AF again and wouldn’t trust it.
As for stills, the AF is okay, but still not on the level of the competition.
My x-t5 is basically unusable outside of manual focus.
bro they need to fix the af quick before i check out nikon z6lll
sorry im not a fan boy, im an air conditioner guy 😅
Call yourself an HVAC technician. 😂
I was thinking it should be possible! There probably aren‘t as many hackers in the camera community but if we own the hardware we should be able to hack it :)
I have installed magic lantern on my Canon 550D, maybe someone will make a magic lantern for the X-H2 😂
Thanks for showing! I am testing an X-H2 for the next weeks now and it is currently on FW 3.0. So far I really like the performance and af. Which version do you recommend?
I don‘t do video, just photo.
Can you check the latest firmware released today
I will tomorrow
@@edvard2942 If you could try to demonstrate it with both your Fuji lens and your Viltrox, that would be appreciated
@@brettgoulder5208 Lens doest matter , I showed that in my xh2s vs a6000 video. I tried it, hand detection is fixed. Video af works like fw 5.0 , but worse than 1.03
I haven’t upgraded my firmware in 2 years…..coz I only use single point AF. It’s fast and sure.
Can we have file download for 1.03?
search it on reedit fujifilmx there's a guy linking a site with all of them
@@edvard2942 thank you
Waiting now for ur FW7.0 update.......
Hey Edvard, today fuji gives us a new firmware!
I will likely try one of my XH2S's to being 1.03 so I can really compare accurately with 5.03 (at least). I'm waiting for the shit show that is the 'fix' coming later this month. Tbh I might just get rid of one of my XH2S's and get a Canon.
why do you have 3 xh2s? :D
@@mrsvetly I have two just.
Latest update urgent video waiting
New Fujifilm firmware out now! Supposed to fix eye autofocus "bug"
Salut,
Fanboys will tell you that in firmware 1.03 the battery was full and in firmware 6.03 it's just a dash
So when will Fujifilm open up its wallet for compensation?
🤣🤣🤣
PD: im laughing but you are right, i have lost money im not going to recover...
I really wanted to like & move to Fujifilm.. can't believe I'm heading back to the "boring but extremely reliable" Sony system again
Good fix. Crazy you should have to do this in the first place. Fuji software sucks.
The ninjas are on their way...
At least somewhere Fujifilm is ahead of everyone else, in downgrading firmware
revolutionary
7.0 is out! In Edvard we trust...
Pd: something tells me 7 is not fixing the problem (may be eye detect but not multi AF dance) and Fuji has really Broken his cameras... (4am cant check anything)
It fixed the "hand detection" video af (only thing i tested fast) is still worse than 1.03
I’m not going to downgrade, I’m too afraid of making things worse. Honestly, I was never bothered with Fuji auto focus, but this last time made my camera unusable. Completely unreliable.
I encourage you to do It. My xh2s its now usable. It was getting dust and more dust
Hi Edvard. I enjoyed watching the show with X-H2s and was planning the transition from my 5 year old X-T3 to the a6700. And then I thought: I'll try the same test as you. And so. On the Fujiflm X-T3 on 5.11, all the cases with blurry face and sharp hand are reproduced one-on-one! That's why I think that AF was better in the eyes on earlier firmware (If only I could try.. But I don't want to take any downgrade risk), but now it doesn't hit at all (I'm shooting a moving daughter of 2 years old. ~60-70% blurry with tamron 17-70 on every settings). I thought the problem was only with the X-T5 and X-H2s. Well, that's it..
The issue is cropping with all their new updates. I think they fundamentally messed up somewhere in the code base.
@@OnlyCitrus Thank you for reply! Then I'll try to wait.
I sold XT5 and X-H2s and went fro A6700 + FX30. I am done with Fuji and their shit AF. Sony one is just superior in every aspect
welp, found. answer lol
by telling you the truth, they notice and now working to fix the issues. if this happen again ill switch to nikon.
So glad I sold my Fuji gear…. Can’t imagine dealing with this bs
Fuji is totally lost. They will need several years to overcome this if they take it seriously. Otherwise they will not be even comparable with other camera brands in next years when it comes to AF!
bro at the start : i don't want to be a CZcamsr
bro now : 9th video on how fuji af is garbage.
Jokes aside, there's a new firmware in town (7). Let's us know how it goes.
At this point I have a trouble believing that such big company as fujifilm would just "miss" that every firmware worsens their AF capabilities. It's crazy talk, but I call foul play. Some bs behind doors agreements with other big Japanese companies to make sure the market is segmented between those. How else would that shit happen? Every firmware, the AF gets worse and not in some weird conditions, but obviously getting just worse in every way. Mhm
They released a software without thorough testing it
Hi, I have been a fan of Fuji since I have many camera problems that they have tried to fix on gfx 100s than hardware problems on the xH2 and autofocus that the camera could not work properly also with photos in continuous mode. I did not use the camera for video work because its focus problem. Recently I have to return the camera for ever. I work now with mft lumix camera for shorting videos. The contrast autofocus with face eye recognition is good and since the combination with the lidar of Dji is very good. I believe that the lidar and face eye AI will be the future and it must be integrated into the camera body as well. I will never upgrade to full frame video for filming because of the price of the cinema lenses and because of its weight.
Dude this is awesome. Most likely this will get patched as I can see some people messing up and bricking their cameras.
Ah, this reminds me of the good old days of Android CFWs but for not awesome reasons lol.
Bluryfilm sucks
You think you get more follower with Fuji bashing ? Very poor.....
He used Fujifilm and he is very upset, what do you mean by followers? He CARES about the product unlike FUJIFILM EXECUTIVES.
This isn't Fuji bashing. What is he saying that isn't true? We all know Fuji cameras can produce gorgeous images. You have to be honest, Fuji AF is behind the competition. The X-H2S was sold with the promise of awesome AF, and never had the chops to justify it's price. It only got worse with updates. Great body, great lenses, but poor AF compared to its advertised prowess.
Thanks for doing what you’re doing. I’ve been a Fuji user since the release of the xpro1. I’ve stuck with the system because I was invested in the lenses and enjoy rangefinder style cameras. I have an xh2s to do video work and Fuji is so far behind all the other brands now. They had a huge head start on video phase detect autofocus on Panasonic and Panasonic surpassed them on their first attempt. They need some pressure to be put on them