Fujifilm XH2S Firmware 7.00 Update: Did They Finally Fix the Autofocus?
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
- In this video, I dive into the latest 7.00 firmware update for the Fujifilm XH2S. This highly anticipated update was supposed to fix the notorious autofocus issue and introduce a new film simulation. But did it really deliver? Join me as I put the new firmware to the test and see if the autofocus has finally been fixed.
Spoiler alert: while there's a slight improvement from the previous 6.0 firmware, the autofocus still doesn't quite measure up to other brands. However, there are some positive changes worth noting. Let's break it all down and see if this update is enough to keep Fujifilm users satisfied.
00:00 - Start
01:30 - eye tracking
02:29 - tracking test
03:59 - final thoughts - Krátké a kreslené filmy
It's definitely a lot better on bird recognition. When birds in flight fly past background clutter it would alway lose focus and then pulsate back and forwards. Now it's 90% locked on. I might even use it over MF.... pretty happy with that. Hopefully further improvements will come, but this is the best firmware so far for my wildlife uses.
It's still pulsating like crazy though, as I notice the photograph on the wall behind you coming in and out of focus and your face losing it several times.
For sure I notice that too! On the small screen on the xh2s I didn’t see it but now watching back the video I see it! I feel like it is an improvement but still not good! Before this update moving around as much as I did the AF would have lost me completely at least now it’s somewhat keeping up.
Its sad to say, but they arent fixing, at least in a while and probably next firmware doesnt fix all the problems because they probably broke something and they dont know what they are doing anymore. My a6700 fixed all my headaches focus, 100% reliable. No more blurry clips. I found peace
@@jcar4522 It's just too bad we have to settle with ugly Sony colors and soulless camera system if we want working autofocus. Come on Fuji!
@@jcar4522 Yep I sold HX2s and XT5 for A6700 + FX30. No regrets. Even the colors or film simulations do not bother me too much. Sony too can project amazing image :)
The AF settings seem to need some fine-tuning it might is a bit to fast. I'm not a fanboy; I simply want my Fuji to work correctly. I've observed similar issues with Sony cameras when the AF is too sensitive etc just search on YT for "Sony AF pulsing" and you will find alot of videos so do not think this is a Fuji "problem". Firmware 7.0 is an excellent fix, and it appears the cameras can now perform at least 90% of their potential... so for me, this isn't a compelling reason to switch systems-some people are just overreactive. However, I hope Fuji will pay closer attention and dive deeper into their code to enhance it. In my view, if they can improve it to be even better than the initial firmware, people will return and sell their Sonys again lol.
My XH2S still pulses, even in a semi studio environment where the object is not even moving. It can lock focus, but then keeps pulsing now and again. No such issue with Sony A7sIII. I gave up with 7 firmware updates. I'm sticking with Sony.
Best option out there. You want to do professional work? Use a true professional camera. Thanks God i bought a6700. Not looking back 🎉❤
I wish all of us had that option.
@@madfinntech Even a Sony A6700 would do well, which I also have. And a FX30.
@@madfinntech A Sony a6700 or ZV-E10 (new version coming next month I heard) would also do well.
@@jcar4522 I have the a6700 also. I use that for social and run around. Not for studio work cos it tends to overheat for long recordings.
Thank you!
The eye detect on my X-S20 seems stickier since the latest 3.0 firmware update
Using X-T5 but yes had the same issue. The auto focus green box was so false that I lost all my confident and started focusing manually with an AF lens. The problem was the accuracy. I have updated the firmware and will go out and check the AF accuracy again
Yup. That's why I sold my XS20. I really on that confirmation beep and I lost shots. Can't risk it. Bought an a6700 and took it on vacation with me and every shot was perfect. I like Fuji but if they still can't fix their AF then I'll never return.
Did you have issues with single focus as well? I have the x-t5 for a year and the focus was spot on in general, no problems at all, but I only use single autofocus, I thought the problems were mostly about tracking and continuous, what exactly forced you to use manual focus?
I don't have a X-H2s, but have an X-T5 and X100 VI (which I never had any issues with) I've subbed as I'm more interested in the 18-120mm lens, so I can look back at your videos and see if you answer the questions I don't even know what they are yet
Thanks for subbing ! It means a lot! I made a video about that lens. I love that lens!
@@adnan_velic I'll give it a watch, it is a lens i am considering for Video use, will be used with an X-T3 on a gimbal at 4K 24P.
Almost certainly never for major photography. I've never been a fan of any Fuji Zoom lens, and was really disappointed by the 16-80 for photography, although the 4K video was good, it couldn't be used on a gimbal as the zoom creeps, the 18-120 won't have that problem at least. Just weather I need such an extensive zoom range (and I use the 10-24 F/4 for most video work, manual focus normally but everything is always in focus when at F/4 the DOF is massive on a wide angle)
@@9Mtikcusthe 18-120 is soooo good on a gimbal. No need to rebalance and the zooming is smooth!
I remembered fw version 1.00, Autofocus was the BEAST when paired with 18-120mm, it was the best speed and combo lol. It focus fine with Viltrox 75mm f1.2 lens
@@donaldmfalls man me too! I was using the 16-55mm f2.8 and it was near perfection! Heck even my 23mm f1.4 was focusing good!
@@adnan_velic fw 1 or 2 has the best video AF (still not like a sony from 10 years ago) but good.
@@edvard2942I can’t agree with that. I have owned the a630 and a6400 AND A7iv and the xh2s FW1.0 af was 80% as good as the a7iv. It was really good but definitely better than the older Sonys.
Well, I will provide the camera AF settings that I used that keep the AF on par. stay tuned.
@@adnan_velic I think its a blasphemy to say 80% like sony , its not trust me, it is good on fw 1 for fuji standards but never 80% like sony, it still pulses, it still focuses in steps, in multi wich is equivalent to WIDE on sony, the camera refuses to focus on some subject placed in the middle of the frame.
Dude can you tell me what focal length your currently in and how far your wall from you is. Im seeing theres a background separation even if its f4?
All of this was shot using the 18-120mm f4 and I was at 18mm at f4 here about 2-3’ away from the camera.
@@adnan_velic ive been shilling but you know the AF is just bad when an f4 misses lol i mean think about that F4 missing the eyes
@@adnan_velic dude i can't believe that's at 18mm it I thought it was the longer end since it looks tight and doesnt look distorted one bit. The quality looks really good.
@@cybquality is great no doubt this is the only thing keeping me with fuji the image quality is insane!
@@cybexactly! At f4 missing focus come on!!!
🤦♂Man, I'm almost considering downgrading, but I don't want to potentially mess up my camera. I remember first getting the XH2S and being able to trust it with every interview I threw at it. Now I don't know if it's going to randomly spaz out or not.
Thank you for sharing your experience, Adnan. You have created a lot of Fujifilm content over the years. I know you're not being disingenuous when you share your own experiences. It's difficult to trust some other new CZcamsrs who come out of nowhere and either blame the issues on user error or claim that it's 100% unusable in all situations.
Thank you for watching! I will always be honest in all of my videos. You’re right some folks will just buy a camera for the fun of it and I do as well but I use my Fuji for paid work as well this is why I have the xh2s and xt4 for fun vacation stuff.
"Camera focusing on different subject in the face frame even though AF is detecting the pupil" AKA "False Green Box" has been there since the beginning of the XH2s firmware v1.0. I am a fashion photographer and always had this issue with models faces. This was the REASON why I left Fuji and switched to Canon. Fuji took 16 firmware iterations to fix this in firmware v7.0? What a shame!
I think the autofocus performed pretty well here. What is everyone on about? 🤷♂️
I still think it’s crazy they released a bug so bad in v6.0 to the public. Where is the QA? Kudos to Fuji for the fix and listening to the uproar.
Look at 0-:30 you can see how the AF looses focus and pulses in and out. This might be fine for someone who uses the xh2s for vacation videos but I bought it as a professional tool which it’s marketed as such. I lost footage because of the AF. Imagine handing out of focus videos to your client. That’s why people are upset. If this was a x100v I would be totally fine with this performance but we are in 2024 and the competition has amazing AF like your iPhone.
its not fixed it was blah before and they have just gone back to blah, the firmware should have been pulled and a reversal added to the site straight away not nearly 3months later its utterly disgusting, imagine if apple/google had done this one of there phones it would have been sorted in hours. there was utterly no reason Fuji couldn't have put a back pedal firmware up. We know how easy it is, the tutorials are out there.
@@gaza4543I agree with you 100%. 3 months for THIS!?! Man I wish the s1hii was out right now I would buy it in a heartbeat
@@adnan_velic I mean its there but its not terrible in this scenario imho. I've seen far worst from Canon R6 MK2. Hopefully next iteration of XT and XH cameras will have rock solid autofocus.
@@gaza4543 Oh I agree. In my original comment I mentioned that a AF bug this bad should never have it public. Some massive QA issues in the software department.
its definitely better than 6.0 but like you mentioned, not like fw 1.0, hope fuji sees this and address this problem
@@rishirajgupta3524 lol honestly man I’ve been with fuji for so long I have no idea what good AF even looks like FW 1.0 felt like forever ago.
I dont remember having huge issues with 5.0, just a Fuji Focus, you know, not reliable 100% but well, predictable and usable. I think they are not fixing anything with the next update. They are more interested in Reala Ace (took a photo... and moved again to eterna/classic) and in "vintage and color science" to sell new cameras and catch new users...
I don't understand why they can't just look at the code of version 1.0 and see what they are doing differently to make autofocus so much worse. It can't be a hardware issue if it worked way better earlier. Leave the new features intact and just fix the autofocus!
@@madfinntech yes exactly my point. if they had achieved it already with 1.0 why do they want to keep changing it and making it worse. something really wrong with the tech team i guess.
@@madfinntech yes COPY AND PASTE!
What AF custom settings are you on?
Single point AF with eye detect only on left eye. Sensitivity +1 speed 0
Wouldve been good had you done a direct before and after to directly compare.
@@SteveJobIess I have a whole video on firmware 6.0 where I’m shooting a basic interview and the firmware struggles. This was a quick video I wanted to roll out and give my opinion on it with no fluff. This AF feels marginally better.
Tips and yes i shoot weddings with XT5
1 set sensitivity to 3 in af settings
2 pick one eye ...that way it doesn't go looking
3 wide ..afc
And use the best lenses
and hire a focus puller
And also "Manual focus assist, OFF". I film/photo kids at soccer and basketball (sports, but not professional and almost always very good lightning conditions) and I have just very few misses.
Man its just so odd if you watch youtubers like wild and free victoria her AF are amazes perhaps theres a bias? I might try doing my own AF test and see whats up
@@nevvanclarke9225 yeah actually I talk about that in this video. The AF is just years behind of everyone in 2024. This update took months to make. We need firmware 1.0 AF speed and reliability.
@@mdenjoyer831😂😂😂
I primarily photograph dogs with the XH2s. My problem with the autofocus is that it initially focuses on an eye, but later I see on the computer that the plane of focus is on the nose. Does anyone else have this problem?
@@oliverlentzen3371 I think this is a common problem you’re not alone my man. This is unacceptable!
Sony Nikon Canon all leaping towards integrating AI while fuji is still struggling with things as basic as Auto Focus. Fujifilm can never be trused for professional work.
7.00 works amazingly - but!!! You have to know how exposure is calculated on fuji in subject detection autofocus modes - let the camera control at least one parameter of the exposure- promise this will help your experiences
@@Mortenthorpe-DK how does this help me as a videographer?? I can’t have clips changing exposure on me mid clip.
@@adnan_velicvideo has much higher demands on controlling the lighting - continuously- throughout- we photographers are blessed with the “simplicity” of only controlling light per single frame
I would have done either eye tracking auto or eye tracking right considering you turned your head to the left more often than not. So the closest eye would have performed better, which would have been the right.
I have the X H2s also. Your test showed that the af is just ok. Grade B nowhere near an A
C+
@@parmanduke it’s a C from me honestly!
B? more like C
Which lens were you using ? May I ask ?
@@pakorn7000 18-120 f4 fujis lens specifically made for video. It doesn’t matter though I could be using my 16-55mm f2.8 and I would have the same issue.
I first thought that I didn't know how to configure my camera until I went online and realized that everybody had the same issue. I noticed the pulsating effect in a low light environment, so I was like, I guess that's normal...but it really wasn't. Post 7.0, it looks like it's much better especially in AF-C mode. Yet, I may switch to a Sony because I feel somewhat betrayed by the brand (but Sony is so much more expensive when it comes to lenses, etc.). Still on the fence.
They need to fix focus breathing, and the slow trailing speed and then it will be like sony.
Reala ace is more important... 😂😅
Yes they do!
you need to measure correct exposure before shooting video, making sure that if you need some elbow-room in lighting, to set your settings on the safe side (overexposed slightly)… for small changes auto-iso should still serve you well in video
@@Mortenthorpe-DK I cannot use auto-iso. I cannot have the iso change on me mid scene. As far as setting exposure correctly I’ve been doing that. Like I said firmware 1 had perfect AF and now it’s terrible. This is not a matter of me not knowing how to use the camera. I’ve been shooting with Fuji since 2018 I know these cameras inside and out. I own 3 bodies xh2, xh2s and the xt4. The xt4 AF is now on par with my xh2s.
I already have 3 and 30... I bought xh2s. I wanted to stay at Fuji. but they deceived me. I bought .s5 ii x. now I'm happy.
You need to look into the custom autofocus presets - you might not be using the right parameters for how long you want the camera to wait to choose another aubject, and how sporadically moving that subject is - just a tip
@@Mortenthorpe-DK yeah tried all of that. I’ve been shooting on Fuji since 2018.
@@adnan_velic ok… regardless of how long you have been shooting- alot of photographers know nothing about how the camera works, and this is specific to each brand, and sometimes model as well…
@@Mortenthorpe-DKI’m a videographer this issue is for AFC videographers. Photos are fine with this camera. The issue here is firmware 1.0 was great firmware 7.0 is a major downgrade.
We are all Fuji Beta testers and we keep asking for more.
@@williamchan8866 bringing AF to 2024 standard is a reasonable ask.
@@adnan_velic for sure but it would be nicer if Fuji does more thorough testing before releasing them. Sure sounds better if they nail it around version 3 than 7+….you know I think by version 10 we will have reach enlightenment.
Now you place an object in front of the lens, then remove it from the scene, and the camera doesn't know what to do and no longer seeks focus.
the auto focus is no better after update , tested it on birds and does not track a moving subject , no problem with a stationary subject
Too little late for me I sold the lot, I have no faith in the brand anymore, sold the camera/s and bought 2 r6 mkii, I mean there the same price for god sake if not cheaper in places and got the 28-70 and 50f1.2 only had to put 500 towards it, a no brainer and it runs circles round the xh2s, simple walking shots that id only get 5 critically sharp out of 30 shoots AFC I now get them all in focus and no messing with settings, IS IT PEERFECT? god no but I have faith its going to get the shots such a braids maid walking down the isle in focus. Which the XH2s wasn't even able to do NOT A SINGLE F'ING ONE!
which im now going to have to explain why I couldn't get this little girl in shot.
@@gaza4543 I’m liking canon a lot! Sony level AF with great colors mannnnn it’s soo appealing!
@@adnan_veliccanon is really amazing great AF colours and image quality are fantastic top notch downside is extremely expensive native RF lenses rather than that great canon system there
@@jlm300185 Well I priced it up the RRP on an 18 23 33 F1.4s and 56mm wr are just shy of 800-1k each so actually works out more expensive than the 28-70 at RRP and a heavier bag over all with the fuji kit. The xh2s is £2500 RRP the canon is sitting at 2k new and 1800 second hand and if you go grey market 1600 quid! So no it actually works out cheaper!
The 28-70 f2 covers almost all of these focal lengths in one lens, of which you can find for 2-2.5k if you look around, I sold the lenses for are 6-700 each pretty much covering the lens. I got 2x 1700 for bodies 100x2 for the cf express cards so far lost no money in the transition, I do have one more r6mkii to buy and will have to put money toward the last lens, 35mm f1.4vcm for a more walk about set up.
weight is also a big problem when holding the camera with the 28-70 but the bag is lighter over all. and a far simpler set up.
@@adnan_velic if your business can afford it, I would certainly would transition, I don't know about you but the fuji look just isnt worth the massive career ending compromises. this is far from perfect and im tired of being a campaniles beta tester.
@@jlm300185yeah that’s true the RF glass is crazy expensive. I can get some nice sigma art for way less on the Sony! I’m also looking at Nikon but dynamic range for video is looking really bad on that z6iii! I may rent one just to see.
Fuji needs a totally new auto focus system going forward for new cameras in the future. I am not confident buying any Fuji cameras right not until they change the auto focus system.
Unless you are a professional software engineer dealing with hardware level programming integrating with an AI chip, I just don't see how you can insist on a "new" system. It's so ridiculous.
@@chicanetithey just need to take it back to firmware 1.0 level
@@adnan_velic there are folks downgrading to older firmware versions. If you want to do that it's certainly possible.
For my personal use, I have 2 bodies, and I don't upgrade the one I use for MF scenarios until a couple of months after a new firmware comes out, and I do my own testing.
It seems irresponsible for folks to jump on the next firmware when they need to camera to work for professional scenarios.
@@chicanetiwhy are we the irresponsible ones and not a huge billion dollar corporation making promises? I think you got it the other way around. If we allow fuji to release firmware and we just accept it for what it is they will NEVER change. Speaking out about this is good. It forces manufacturers to improve so the consumer wins.
@@adnan_velic they have engineers constantly innovating on this and putting in massive hours to make it what it is. Fuji isn't tracking this conversation AT ALL. They know their job, and they know when they fall short. They are putting out major improvements 2 years after a camera was released. There will be bugs. Billion dollar company or not, there are just a few humans working on the AF algorithms.
I still hope they will accept reality and try seriously to change it catching sony and others. Their ignorance is ruining their brand more than bad AF.
All of these firmware videos leave out the context of AF-C settings being used.
AFC single point with eyes tracking. Sensitivity +1 speed 0. This is a talking head video you’re watching and even here the AF is struggling…. If you want to see a full in depth video on firmware 7.0 there is a guy on here who just made a full 26 minute video breaking everything down. His results are similar to mine except he uses way more examples and shows you settings of everything. This is not a user fault I’ve been shooting with fuji since 2018 I know these cameras inside and out. I know what lenses do what. I chose the 18-120 f4 because that is the best AF capable lens for video Fuji makes at the moment and I didn’t want people questioning me on the lens aspect of this issue. The lens was updated and the body was updated.
Here’s is the video with detailed breakdown and yes he shows you all of his settings. The AF is terrible.
czcams.com/video/Ajr_I2ovdow/video.htmlfeature=shared
It's so weird that my 10 years old "entry level" Sony a5100's autofocus is so much better & much more reliable than every current Fujifilm's flagship cameras.
And it doesn't even have an "AI" processor like the current fujifilm's.
I don’t know about that…. I owed the a6400 and a6300 and the AF was bad.
There are no "AI" chips in any of these cameras, AI would suggest learning which would suggest every time you use the camera it gets better. Dont drink the cool aid from any of these companies it's "just" very very very cleaver coding. Sony just know there chips inside and out
@@gaza4543yeah man they are using AI as a marketing thing
I think people are focused too much on the green box and not the actual performance of the autofocus. Even if the box is lagging the autofocus was still keeping up with you and the lens pretty well. The green box is just a screen graphic it doesn’t fully determine the outcome of the autofocus it’s just a visual to help you understand where focus should be
It's Sony and Canon's fault, they have accustomed us to that, they have set a standard that unfortunately previous versions of the camera met.
@@jcar4522 I don’t think the performance ever left, the box is just glitchy. I don’t ever notice a pulsing effect but even if I did I’d just work around it, we gotta stop letting little things like this keep us from creating. It’s the wrong thing to focus on (pun)
@@VividlineImages True fanboy talk. There are big issues with the autofocus on these expensive Fuji cameras and they need to be addressed and they won't be we aren't loud enough about it. Thank us later when your camera works properly as well.
@@madfinntech who’s a fan boy? I have multiple cameras from different manufacturers don’t try and pin you cry babyness and lack of creative ability on a mediocre issue and get out and shoot shmuck
@@VividlineImages the beginning of my video is just eye tracking and as you can see in my little studio in the beginning of the video just a talking head video the AF is pulsing back and forth. This is a $2500 camera a flagship camera with a video focused lens and STILLLL!?
almost afraid to watch this video
Make sure you do your own testing as well. My gut tells me this 7.0 firmware isn’t it!
they should just stop building new models and focus on improving the autofocus of the existing cameras. At this point it kinda feels like they don't care
I’m with you on that!
Still pulses, Like, very bad. Make me feel I wanna cry.
@@6042833 same here