2020 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon vs. 2020 Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro ― Off-Road Truck Comparison Test
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- The Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro has long been the top choice among midsize-pickup buyers who prioritize off-road performance, but the Jeep Gladiator Rubicon looks like it might just give it a run for its money. The only way to find out which truck has the upper hand is to compare them, so Edmunds editors Dan Edmunds and Kurt Niebuhr cooked up an off-road adventure on a rocky trail to put them to the test.
In the end, the Tacoma TRD Pro proved once again that it is no slouch when the going gets rough thanks to its suspension flexibility, underbody clearance, locking rear differential and clever electronic traction aids. Compared to any other midsize truck, it's still got it. Trouble is, the Gladiator Rubicon isn't just any other midsize truck. Its beefy solid front axle and disconnecting front stabilizer bar give it even greater suspension articulation, and the classic Jeep hood and fender design provides the driver with superior trail visibility. It also has otherworldly front and rear bumper clearance, along with a more effective and comprehensive set of skid plates and rock rails. Our fear that the Gladiator's longer wheelbase would cause problems proved to be largely unfounded — it was just as often a help as it was a hindrance. The moral: Never bet against a Jeep in an off-road contest.
2020 Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro
The Toyota Tacoma is the best-selling truck in its segment for a reason. Foremost, it enjoys a long-standing reputation for durability and go-anywhere capability. But it's also smooth, efficient, and easy to get along with on the road.
Off-road is where the Tacoma truly shines and stands above all others except the Gladiator. The Tacoma has the clearance, gearing and traction to tackle serious terrain, and the brakes and throttle prove to be brilliantly precise and controllable in low-range crawling situations.
The Tacoma's truck bed is ideal. It's made of a composite material that needs no bedliner, and it has an enviable combination of fixed and movable tie-downs. Loading is easy because the tailgate opens low and its bedsides aren't comically tall. The Tacoma's 6,800-pound maximum tow rating does lag behind some others, but the deficit isn't large.
The Tacoma TRD Pro is sold only as a crew cab with a short bed, and it's only available in four-wheel drive. It's equipped like a loaded-up TRD Off-Road. But it sets itself apart with special styling details, including a black grille and LED headlights, plus performance upgrades such as Fox internal bypass shocks, all-terrain tires, a thicker front skid plate, an upgraded exhaust, and a ride height that's an inch taller.
Toyota's Tacoma manages to deliver fun in a right-size pickup package. Its TRD Off-Road packages are the real deal, not sticker packages inflated by marketing hype. The Tacoma is great for those who want the look and feel of an off-roader even if they'll never get it dirty because it's also an easy-driving and dependable pickup truck.
See our full Tacoma TRD Pro Review: www.edmunds.com/toyota/tacoma...
2020 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon
The introduction of the 2020 Jeep Gladiator gives midsize-truck shoppers an intriguing new option to consider. Simply put, the Gladiator is a four-door Wrangler Unlimited with an extended wheelbase and a 5-foot cargo bed instead of the normal cargo area. This Wrangler DNA promises to give the Gladiator off-road performance that no other truck can match.
The Jeep Gladiator Rubicon is very easy to like. This burly off-road machine does almost anything the Jeep Wrangler can do, but it's also a practical pickup with a useful bed design and healthy payload and tow ratings. Inside, the cabin is nicely trimmed and easy to live with, and its back seat is more spacious than any of its closest rivals. The Rubicon benefits from a well-matched engine and transmission combination, and it has no equal when the pavement turns to dirt.
The Gladiator excels compared to rivals with a strong tow rating (even the Rubicon) and ample payload capacity. Its bed is thoughtfully designed, with low bedsides and a power-locking rear tailgate, and the rear seat's volume and folding strategy make it good for cargo and child seats alike.
The Gladiator Rubicon trim provides the most off-road capability with higher fenders to accommodate larger 33-inch all-terrain tires, locking front and rear differentials, an electronically disconnectable front stabilizer bar, Fox shock absorbers, body-protecting rock rails and skid plates, and a different transfer case that provides a lower crawl ratio for better climbing and crawling. Even if you're just cruising around town, you can have fun with the Gladiator's removable top and doors. It's the only convertible pickup on the market.
See our full Gladiator Rubicon review: www.edmunds.com/jeep/gladiato...
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Jeep Gladiator or Toyota Tacoma? Which would you choose? Why?
I would go with the Jeep Gladiator. Seems a bit more fun and more capable when I leave the streets behind. They both look like great trucks though.
Tacoma for sure. As tested here, and as witnessed by us all, Toyota is the more capable one. Tacoma hands down!
Tacoma for me, as seen in this video, the taco was more capable, and that may be due to its shorter wheelbasr
Toyota of course the offload fiat won't last half as many miles.
51% Tacoma, 49% Gladiator. Full disclosure, I'm a '18 Tacoma Ofr'd owner and a Toyota fan-boy. I really like my Taco, and it's proven very capable getting to different mtb trails in the Lake Tahoe area. However, I like Jeeps and I'm excited the Gladiator is out. The idea of a convertible pickup truck with class leading off road prowess sounds amazing. I'm VERY tempted by the Gladiator but I'm not sure when the time comes I could pull the trigger for one vs the Tacoma and it's proven cockroach-like reliability. Either truck is a win for the owner in my opinion and the competition will make manufacturers step up their game!
3:39 "because these tires are so loaded full of mud" literally no mud on the tires.
And I thought the Rubicon trim came standard with BFG not Wildpeak baldish tires like in this video. Not taking away anything from the TRD, but if I am to take this test as a driven off the lot test then I would expect the BFGs to be on there like every other JTR on the lot.
Rained heavily the night before. Fog and mist persisted until about an hour before we got there. The tread was still packed full when we arrived at the obstacle. It spun out and smeared the rocks like snot. So, yeah, at one point they look cleaned out, but you also see Kurt almost fall on his a** after getting out of his truck.
Thats what i said , i was watching and the guy said there is so much mud on my tires , me: what mud are you talking about . there is no mud
Would airing down help in that situation?
@@Rawdawg321 Some times it helps but in most cases it doesn't
Aren't these the same guys who said the Honda Ridgeline was the best mid-size truck? Due to the fact Ridgeline had the most USB ports. 🤦♂️
That’s stupid
That's hilarious
I have a Ridgeline and it’s amazing!!! Best most practical vehicle I own...
Ivy Zilla I have a 2012 HONDA Pilot with 4wd, a 2” lift and 32” BFG KO2’s and I go pretty much everywhere my buddies with Jeeps and Toyotas go. The VTM-4 system is awesome.
It’s funny the look on people’s faces when they see how capable the HONDA really is.
@@DAhonda247 lol. Stop trolling
My wife and I love my Gladiator Rubicon. The open air experience, high seating and off-road capabilities make it a lot of fun. And I bought a manual so I saved $4000 even during this chip shortage. I’ve owned a Tacoma years ago and the seating position drove me crazy. Felt like I was sitting on the floor. It’s a great truck but I can’t figure out why Toyota makes the seats so low to the ground.
Oh, and the Gladiator has 33” tires. You can fit 35s with no modifications.
The tacoma seats are low to the ground because the tacoma floor is high off the ground for ground clearance. Have you ever noticed how a tacoma isn’t a particularly tall truck but still has more ground clearance than full size trucks? This is why. Helps a tonn offroad as you don’t need to lift the truck and put massive tires on it just to get over rocks and what not
So I’m three minutes in and already calling BS.
Please air the tires down, or go back to reviewing street cars. Off-road is obviously not your thing.
Concur
Yep. First time off-road
Tires, full of mud?
@@Jay151 also, I didn't think the Rubicon trim cam with Wildpeak tires, thought they were all BFG which would have done far better. I could very well be wrong just have not seen them on any of the JTs I've seen.
Tires were aired down on both trucks. We just didn't bother showing that.
I’d take the Taco, given that I could count on it not breaking down, and the price.
Jonathan Losito im 6’0 and had no problem with the seating cause of the new electronic seats. Even with my seating position on the drivers seat if i sit in the back i still have a comfortable position
JOKE.... the New Tacoma's engine BURNS OIL AND PINGS AND DIES GOING UP STEEP HILLS (off-roading) in other words it's a horrible engine and a time bomb waiting to happen.... buy the New Ranger or Colorado....both RELIABLE trucks with zero issues...and AMERICAN !
Jonathan Losito I agree Jonathan. Toyota’s have never been the most comfortable vehicles on the market. They just don’t have things in the right places, armrests, seat bolster, pedals, etc you name it, it’s just always been off for a taller person.
@Jonathan Losito 100 percent!!
For pure offroad-ing, yeah the Gladiator is the better choice. When you talk about a daily driver that's also an offroader, the Tacoma is more reliable and the IFS is much safer on road than an solid front axle
“It’s because these tires are loaded with mud..” Camera zooms our and there’s barely any mud 🤣
Two minutes in and I just had to make a note of how well the cinematography is on this video... From the landscape shots, to even the interior face shots
I just traded in my JK for a new Tacoma. Very happy!
Imagine if the Taco actually came with good “off road” tires.
Yea why does it come with street tires!!!
The Hall Pass and a front locker
I've never understood that. Got an offroad truck and same tires that come on a car.
@@Colorado4x4 Because most people that own them never leave the asphalt.
They are crap tires. Toyota specifies P-meter tires on the TRD Off-Road and TRD Pro, not LT tires. It's a mystery. Meanwhile, the Gladiator comes with LT all-terrain tires and can be fitted with optional LT mud-terrain tires, which I wish we had had. I have KM2 Mud Terrain BFGs on my own JK Wrangler.
You guys aren’t gonna talk about ripping the drivers side rear bumper cover off the trd pro at all? 😭🤣
It's just clipped off, they just clipped it in again and it's like never happened, Toyota parts are strong
@@Locotropic i call bs i im a collision repair tech that begs to differ lol trd pro should have an option for steel bumpers.
The idea was to make a standalone social piece on that, but I'm not sure where that stands. The editor did play the hit tice with a slight zoom in. The three clips came out and the cover peeled off, revealing a vulnerable blind spot monitor sensor. I went back and found them and put them back in. Still, it's a bad design. Meanwhile, the Jeep has a rear rock rail back there and the blind spot monitor is up high as part of the taillight assembly.
I am glad somebody noticed and commented on this issue! I was like, “really, these guys (including camera crew) aren’t gonna mention the driver’s side rear bumper being ripped off?!”
It's really funny how fanboys call a Jeep a fiat BUT when it was Daimler/Chrysler nobody called them Mercedes. LMFAO
What a great video. Tough decision to make, I love the Toyota reliability but the Gladiator’s looks and features are like no other.
One thing that is never mentioned is the price point of both the vehicles. The Gladiator Rubicon is pushing nearly $60,000 dollars for a mid size truck. Also, you should revisit all of the reviews when the vehicles have 100,000 miles on them and then tell which truck you would rather have. I am so tired of hearing how great some of these trucks are and people giving them reliability awards as soon as the truck comes to market. As a example...Introducing the 2020 Chevrolet Silverado JD powers most reliable truck....back to the video....let’s see long term test on the gladiator, ranger, and rubicon. All vehicles appear to be great the true test is how reliable are they after a few years of ownership.
Very true, but 100k miles is not a lot, how about 160k. By then a lot of components show how well they are made and designed. Every vehicle on the road these days last a long as the warranty, even Kia, with regular maintenance. But once they hit 120k up the build quality starts to show real winner, plus replacement parts availability, price and hours spent on the hoist add to the equation. Then also where you live plays a part - for us in Canada using acetylene torch to avoid broken bolts, etc or to remove components is daily normal - I couldn't believe a 20 yr old car in California wouldn't have a spot of rust and I wouldn't need impact gun to service it.
@@pliedtka Absolutely. This is where the Toyota people aren't thinking. Toyota parts are very expensive, making long-term ownership costs high.
It really seems like it is the first time either of these guys have gone offroading. It was a painful to watch.
Any reason why you guys didn't air down even by just a few psi?
RyuMoto maybe they did a little? 20%, hard to tell.
Loaner cars for the review. They were over an hour from the nearest gas station and only bring camera and Sound gear.
No way to air up, or recovery gear. No Cell reception either.
Joel Coulson yes, they planned to off-road and I have a portable air compressor
Because the Jeep would have beached itself sooner
Because that was the manufacturer’s recommended tire pressure...😂😂😂😂
I bought the Gladiator in Rubicon trim. I love it! I fell the Tacoma compares better with the Mohave trim. Both are good trucks depending on what you want or need, but the Gladiator is my pick obviously.
I love my Jeep Gladiator rubicon
Can you do the same with a gladiator sport s?
Me too
I own a Gladiator Rubicon and absolutely love this truck. Thank you for this honest review of both these capable trucks. Either way you went with your pick there would be a fair amount of thumb downs.
Thanks. It is a lose-lose comparison. Someone is going to be pissed. I was frankly surprised. I thought I'd like the Taco more going in, that the length would kill the Gladiator. Yes, it rubbed, but it was harmless, and it is much better protected underneath.
I read a ton of comments from the Taco fans stating how capable it is but no one mentioned the rear bumper damageon the Tacoma on the left side. It barely bottomed out and bent it. First obstacle with in Jeep Gladiator looked more difficult only because of the Driver. Bad line and bad throttle control.
those bumpers come in 3 pieces and are basically plastic with paint, so in the case of damage it can be replaced in sections
Classy videos guys.
Isn't this the channel that picked the Honda Ridgeline as it's #1truck? Why didn't they put the Gladiator up against that? There's a reason they always pick the Toyota.
David Wethington Edmunds & KBB love their Hondas...They should’ve brought a Ridgeline or Pilot to do some off roading.
@Jason Creech well said. every guy would know your balls are in your wife's purse
@@penvon I would actually like to see them try.
Sissy boys honda, Toyota is the tough one
In all fairness the Ridgeline does have more USB ports. 🤦♂️
Did anyone else notice that the left rear bumper on the Tacoma must have been dragged someplace? Definitely pulled away.
I was waiting for them to comment on it. But I guess they thought no one would notice.
Watch at 12:10 to see it hit
They showed it get hit
3 piece bumper. Only have to replace that corner instead of the whole bumper.
It was just clipped off the place, they probably just clipped it in again and it was like never happened, Toyota parts are durable and strong, they can withstand serious hits
Please make an update video doing the same trails and same vehicles after 10 years :D
Truck is the key word! Would never buy a Jeep truck, would buy a 2 or 4 door Jeep. But as far as small trucks Toyota or The Colorado...but not the crappy new Ford Ranger...
Awesome camera work
Taco all day,,, reliably
Tacoma is over enginered toyota its not a land cruiser 70 series, so don' expect too much relibty than a ford ranger or jeep gladiator
Comfort wise the toyota is terrible. Its like your sitting on the ground
Yeah but the Tacoma went up and cleared everything that they went through more efficiently than the Jeep and if you want comfort buy yourself a Cadillac
I will take the Taco's long term durability any time!
Thanks for leaving the video quiet and not including lots of annoying music.
Anybody know where this was filmed? Might have to take a trip.
Tacoma for me but the Gladiator is extremely close. Like 1a 1c close, not 1 b.
What has got the 1b slot?
@@joshmiller1640 For me, the FJ Cruiser, no reason at all.
It’s not just the sway bar. It’s IFS vs. solid axle
Yep. And that was mentioned in the piece twice.
Justin, both have their pros and cons, same as wheelbase. Picking your line according to what you are driving is more crucial.
That was a great video. Both of them are great. A little lift and bigger tires and then they're awesome.
“Piece of rear driver side bumper”
I have a 17 Tacoma TRD Sport, so I have to pick the Tacoma!
I think both of these gentlemen should go back to driving their Prius. Obviously very inexperienced driving off-road. Especially the guy with glasses.
So what? They resemble an average American who knows a little about abusing their trucks for maximum experience, nothing wrong with that.
Exactly, so clueless. The vehicles are far beyond their skills. Looks like they didn’t even air down!
Carlos Alvarez Hence the part where they will learn more about it later on the road. Everybody started off this way, lmao, why are you making it sound as if it’s a bad thing?
Lord Void then why would an average American purchase one of these off-road titans?
Sam Lawson now you’re trolling.
I'd have to go Taco. The Jeep is just too big for British Columbia trails. Lots of narrow and tight turns around trees. The Galditor would get hung up on mild trail entrances.
And the jeep isnt build to last!
That’s because BC can’t build a f*cken decent road. They pile gravel next to rivers, lakes, ocean, etc. Like the Coq. Cost them $800K but collected 2 billion in tolls. Then their treehuggers and raise the speed limit to 120kms. Once winter comes it’s so bad they have a TV show that shows stupidity and poor BC drivers. So over taxed and so under performing. Roads are the metaphor for the BC mentality. Such a beautiful province destroyed by voting for liberal overtaxed socialist. We hate pipelines. But we need ferries that run on diesel...Vancouver import & exports using rail, roads, but no bikes or buses for their economy. Ahhhh that felt good to vent.
@@fnnnknorth not really sure how our shitty paved road have anything to do with tight 4x4 trails that need to negotiate large trees and elevation changes.
But if that makes you feel better. Ok.
Agreed! The 4WDABC Okanagan is hosting a newb run in Kelowna this Spring.
I can see it going that way based on local trails. But, honestly, I've thought that would be a problem on more than one test outing and it never quite amounts to as much as I think it will beforehand.
TRD Pro Tacoma on 265/70/16 =30.5 inch tall tires
Jeep glad. On 285/70R17 = 32.7 inches tall
Now imagine what Tacoma can do with 285’s
Except that would require you to lift the Tacoma 3” just to fit
Good to see these two vehicles in a place any owner would love to take them. That said these test vehicles had the wrong tires for that terrain. It also looked like they could be aired down a lot more. I was embarrassed to see the Gladiator stuck on that first obstacle. Adjusting the line and a little bump and it would have cleared that easily. Airing down would have helped w/ grip. Audience probably already knows... But it's super easy to get 35s on the Gladiator with an inexpensive Mopar 2" lift. Way more money to get the same tire on a Tacoma.
Why do i feel like Tacoma was better, i even think these guy know that.. but for some reason they saying the jeep is better!! Who knows.
IT'S BECAUSE THEY ARE BIAS! JAPANESE V.S. USA!!! DUH!!
FACTS ARE FACTS..............TOYTOA WILL OUTLAST AND OUT SELL THE JEEPS IN ALL WAYS! RESALE VALUE............UNTOUCHABLE !!
@guy proulx compared to jeep, the aftermarket is laking, ifs and not solid dana axles, no removable top or doors. Bout sum it up?
Toni J Because it was, but this is a paid advertising for Jeep
Gus Goose So is your life
How much did a new rear bumper for the Tacoma set ya back?
Fixed in five minutes - clips popped out. But its a vulnerable design, no doubt.
Toyota all the way....
Kas Al duh
14:35: That's what she said!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Nice. You beat me to it.
ahahhahahah hilarious specially the way he said it too lmao
Absolutely Toyota Tacoma. (RELIABILITY). In fact I love the Jeep if someone else pays the repair bills down the road 😜
@Gus Goose Cool story.
@Gus Goose That still leaves Tacoma 10 times reliable than Jeep anyday.
Gus Goose u saying fiats are cool lol?
I have a 2018 TRD off-road Tacoma. It’s a great truck. Before that I had three consecutive Wranglers that I drove daily and wheeled all over. I’d love to add a Gladiator someday, but it would not replace the Tacoma. Gonna start building up my Tacoma on my CZcams channel this coming year
Nice. Love to see that. I have a JK Wrangler, and I agree the Tacoma is much more appealing. But the new JL Wrangler (and this JT) changed my mind. They fixed so much of what was crude and unappealing about Jeeps.
Just say no to Japanese vehicles.
I'm with some of the other commenters on this, air down the tires, and turn the aides on before climbing rocks. Number 1 mistake people do when going off road, they turn the lockers on after getting stuck.
toyota 100% please
So awesome going though the hole in the Rock.
Trail damage on the Tacoma at 12:15... Did you just push the bumper end back on or did it cost money to fix?
I guess they just clipped it in place and it was like never happened
I went back and found the three plastic clips that had popped loose. The green plastic piece wasn't damaged, and two of the clips were perfect. The third still worked. Good as new. But a bad and vulnerable design, to be sure. And the blind spot monitor sensor is under there. It was fine, but any aftermarket steel bumper replacement will negate BSM.
@@DanEdmunds I think it is a good design since the bumper can be replaced in three parts.
@@DanEdmunds not to rain on your parade, the aftermarket will have taken the bsm into their design criteria. Same as they have done for the front bumpers and the crash sensors for the airbags.
Which one will be in the shop more for repairs?
I can tell you which one will cost a lot more to maintain and repair.... Toyota.
drove them both, owned both, on road TRD, off road JEEP,,,
They almost pulled the rear bumper off the Toyota. It’s clearly pulled away from the body in the second half of the video.
Bumper was secure, it was the green-painted plastic cover. But still. A Tacoma weak point for sure.
I had a wrangler unlimited, and before that a tundra. I know the off road capabilities of both Toyota and Jeep. What about comfort? I know my JKU seemed tiny inside, and the Tundra was huge, is the Tacoma as small as the Jeep? What about back row seating?
Wow awesome 2 vehicles 👍
The Toyota needs rock sliders from the factory
Yes it does, and behind the rear tires, too. Jeep rules here. In my conclusion I mention "protection" as a strength, and this is part of that.
One scrapes and struggles... its definitely the winner... huh?
Its ugly, but has some cool jeep stuff, I'd take the taco.
There’s so much room to get through that arch !!!holy cow they have to have a spotter
cool cave! Hey would you guys recommend the PRO as to compared to the OFF-TRD OFF ROAD fully loaded price is cheaper fully loaded by $3000 just not a pro is all. Id rather have the 6 FOOT BED..
Taco owner here, man I love the old jeeps but this one looks odd...just slapped a bed on a 4 door jeep
I love old Jeeps too. New ones aren't even legitimate to me.
I’m sure the 35psi was really helping too 🙄
Where did you get that? We did air down, but it's boring to show the process.
Dan Edmunds someone leaked the information and confirmed it was 35psi
HAY GUYS LOVED THE VIDEO-YOU think you can do the same thing with A CHEVY BISON & LOADED NISSAN FRONTIER. ??
No air down??
I've owned both Jeeps and Tacomas. The jeeps start falling apart almost immediately with lots of time in the shop for warranty work. The Jeeps are junk at 100K and the Tacomas are still running at 200K.
ds Bond I used to have a 278k mi Tacoma that ran like a baby. Tacomas are gteate
My story is almost the same but with chevy. All sorts off problems with the colorado at 50k, but my 2016 tacomas has 150,000 miles and no issues yet
Toyota salesman everywhere😂
no the Comanche was the real jeep pick up, this is just jeep rubicon extended. taco has reliability
Not true, the gladiator is totally different. Thats like saying the comanche was just an extended cherokee
Yeah I agree w Sean u sound stupid
As someone that drives Tacoma daily, I have to agree. After going on some light trails with a Jeep Grand Cherokee and the Tacoma I have to agree, overall comfort and traction was better in the Jeep
Respectfully, "Jeep" and "comfort" are 2 words that do not go together.
@@OoavastoO best comment ever
BigRed BikeRider Agreed!
@@OoavastoO never been in a Grand Cherokee huh?
You guys didn’t air your tires down?
Get some real off-road people on these videos
I agree...go back to your couches boyz and keep winning from there......
I have had 5 Jeeps. Last on was a 03 rubi now it’s nothing but trd for me. There is no comparison really. Never had to fix any thing on any of my TRD,s
Cool story, I've never had to fix anything on my Jeeps. TRDs are a fine truck, JTR out of the box is a lot of fun...but like most Jeep owners they don't keep them stock and any amount of lift would have kept the belly off the rocks they were dragging. The length can definitely be an issue but I've seen full size trucks do well playing in the rocks as well. Driver ability is an amazing equalizer for many short comings.
“It’s because these tires are so packed with mud” *pans to tires that look dry as fuck*
I love my Tacoma with 495,000 miles and yes no leaking fluids with original powertrains. 😍
Will probably run twice as long as the gladiator I’m all Toyota myself won’t buy anything else
I have a 09’ Jk rubicon and had a 15’ Tacoma 4x4. Replaced the Tacoma with a Ram Rebel but definitely want the gladiator next. Tacoma just wasn’t cutting it for me for what I wanted to do.
The Taco looked like it ate up everything with no issues. I just looked up dealership near me, for a rubi looks like price is 55K-65K and and TRD Pro is 42K-48K, I'd save the 13K and just throw some good tires on the Taco
Josh E ate everything easier than the Jeep
Just picked up an older TRD taco it's a 2007 with a small lift and 33s, and honestly I liked the 98 Tacoma I had better. Feel like you could see better and just felt better on trails. I drive a four door long bed Cummins and a 7.3 f250 most out of all my trucks so that's become my normal and I forgot how small a Tacoma is. And I'm a small dude. Your feet are tight , if you have gloves on you hit the turn signals and wipers when you turn the wheel lol. But I still love it, just miss the old Toyota trucks. So simple.
You guys didnt air down at all, did you?
I have a fj cruiser with 223k on it. That is more of a reason why I rather have the toyota.
FJ's FTW
With 15 mpg and at that rate its a total cost amount of gas for 33,000 dollars sure keep ur fj..
That’s low mileage for a Toyota.
I love my JT Rubi
Wait 75k miles!
Let’s get both vehicles, wait for 12 years, daily driving each, and then let’s do this review. If the jeep’s still running of course
Captain Caveman lol clearly you don’t drive a Toyota so you have no idea what true reliability is
Jeep forever! Greetings from Costa Rica
Reliability and shorter* wheelbase.
*= Than that of the jeep.
Clear winner here. The Taco. IMO
Cant go either way. I previously owned a tacoma 4x4 and now have the gladiator. The Gladiator is more fun. I have the soft top 6 speed manual
John Adams While I love my old Tundra (owned for 13 years) I can honestly say it was a bore to drive and wasn’t immune to issues. My new Jeep JL is a lot more fun and I’m liking it this far, but I still feel the Toyota is a better long term vehicle.
You can tel that they don’t off-road by their spotting lingo: Turn “right” “left”, etc instead of “driver” and “passenger.” But hey, Edmunds really isn’t known for their off-road credibility anyway. I got a hearty chuckle out of this!
2012 FJ Trail Teams for me!
It makes no difference what ‘lingo’ you use, so long as everyone is on the same page.
did you bother to air down?
Chrystler be Toyota? That jeeep is awesome but I wouldn’t sink 50,000 in to anything made by chrystler. I would buy the Tacoma and use the savings to add some aftermarket.
I have owned a 4x4 Tacoma and hated the rear suspension; each time it rained the rear would would slide out on a bumpy turn. I owned a Jeep JKU Rubicon and driving it on long distances on the highway was not too fun; it drove like an old Army Jeep. I now own a ZR2 and love it; it drives great on the highway, can turn just fine on a bumpy turn during the rain. I can drive it anywhere the JKU or Tacoma would go off-road.
The ZR2 also has way more interior room. It’s by far a better vehicle than both.
Does the Tacoma have highway tires?
TRD Off-Road and TRD Pro come with the same weak-sauce P tires, not LT tires. It has been a longtime sore point, but their engineering team isn't ready to up their tire game.
guy proulx why? Save $. Better MPG’s to advertise. Most folks drive on asphalt? What is the answer Dan?
What about the reliability aspects of these 2 vehicles? I am hearing online comments about poor quality control in the Gladiator. Also, I remember the Tacoma was dinged in Consumer Reports for some problems not long ago as well.
CR needs to stick reviewing toasters and washing machings.
I have a 2005 4.0 V6 4x4 4Runner with 289,000 miles. I have yet to see a modern Jeep wrangler or grand Cherokee with that many miles with out a single issue. Maybe there is one out there somewhere.
Anyways Tacoma all day.
The friends that own Jeep. Wrangler's don't use them as daily drivers and when they do they go to hell under 100,000 miles and trade them in for a new one lol 🤷🏻♂️
The WJ Jeeps and TJ's with the inline 6 4.0 engines get 300,000 and more on those.... I know...I own one!
@@barrya.6212
My brother had Cherokee with 4.0L inline 6 with similar mileage - very reliable engine, but small and 15L/100. It was a very simple car to work on and I wouldn't trust the new Cherokee, Patriot or something similar. Unfortunately the tooling to make the 4.0L was worn out and Chrysler called end to it. But my friend who's also a mechanic said that the FJ was the best car he ever owned, period.
I just see XJ 4.0s and Old 4runners down here in Fl. Both keep kicking at the 300 mark.
You hate the “snorkel?” Get this man off this video please. Pretty sure he’s the reason for all the dislikes
The Taco's snorkel is ridiculously high. And the worst part is they refuse to certify it for ANY water fording. They call it a desert air intake, for silt. But nowhere in any Toyota manual will you find a water fording depth. Meanwhile, a Jeep is officially good for 30 inches of water without a snorkel, and I've personally done that with a JL Wrangler Rubicon . Piece of cake.
@guy proulx the ones that actually get after market mods and beat up offroad has more reported breakages? I would have never guessed
@guy proulx cant fit 37s on any Toyota easily, many shove them on stock dana 30 axles on jeeps, just saying what I see. Never had a problem with my 2015 jku, its paid off and I couldn't be happier. I dont need to attack other brands to inflate my ego like other jeepers or most of the outspoken Toyota owners. I can genuinely say I love what I got, and I'm not gonna trade it in. Much of that is because I mod right. Not for pure cool/looks on a budget
Dan Edmunds Damn you can't hide your bias old man
Taco ftw 10 years in and value of the truck still holds while the Jeep’s price will deflate and mechanical problems rolling in
Both are doing good
Looked like the Tacoma did better, I think these guys are just paid by jeep, One thing is for sure, The Tacoma looks way better
they got paid, it could be. but I think its just being north american, generally speaking people just like american cars blindly. it doesn't matter what you say or show them facts, they will be fanboy. its just like iphone and android subject. at the end of the day you should buy what you like. I see tacoma using locking def one time and no scraping, but that jeep painted the rocks all the way. because of bad driver tacoma got rear bumper damage.
@Helicopter Dad You can think what you want, I've owned both
YES THESE GUYS ARE LYING THROUGH THIER TEETH, YOU CAN HEAR IT IN THIER VOICSES! THEY KNOW THEY WANTED TO SAY THE TACO IS MUCH NICER AND CAPABLE...........BUT NOPE, BECAUSE THEY ARE SPONSERED BY JEEP!! GO TOYOTA!!
phillip if you owned both then you know the Jeep is better. Taco has no lockers and discount sway bar at front. The Jeep has Dana 40 and better tires and the Jeep shares parts from a 1500 ram and is made to pull 2500 more pounds then the taco. Plus I can take my doors and top off while your sitting on the floor of your crappy taco.
@@markgosser9578 Must be 420 for you
30 seconds in and I already know these guys are full of bs.
You should probably have people with offroad experience do these test. Most of the issues they had were driver error.
I like both but I would go with the tacoma . The only thing I like about the jeep more is that you can strip the top down.
When the yota has 400,000 miles on it and still going to the trails, which towing company will bring the jeep out there for a rematch.
C. Ray so true! If that Jeep makes it to 150,000 miles I’d be surprised!! 😆
I’m surprised that people still question Jeep’s reliability. Any vehicle can be reliable, it is just up to the owner to take the responsibility of taking care of their vehicle. Both Toyota and Jeep have their pros and cons, but we as an off-roading community, must be able to realize that we can’t always blame the vehicle’s manufacture for its reliability. Take care of your vehicle and it’ll take care of you!
Louie Jackson lies lol that’s not truth
Tacoma for the win
Witch one would you pick if it was going to be your only vehicle for the next 10 years ? I'm a dyed in the wool Toyota man so I'll take a manual transmission Tacoma please.
If toyota updated the interior i would consider going that route just because of price but think im going to go rubicon in the spring. Always have been a fan of jeeps, prefer the interior and love that you can that the roof and doors off
the old jeeps were good.
grabir01 they were better than the Fiat crap we have now.
Now do manual transmission gladiator vs manual transmission trd pro
Love to. And that's the cool part. Both do exist.
@@DanEdmunds I have a Manual Gladiator if you bring the manual Tacoma
Given the price for both vehicles I would take the tacoma. I work hard for my money and I want a reliable 4x4 truck 20-30 years later .
I love the close up of the damage @12:16 , especially in slow motion