Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro Has Met Its Match! We Compare It to the Gladiator & Show You Why!
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Tommy is completely right about the tires, the manufacturers are pressured by the EPA to get the best fuel economy possible
Yup. By simply putting something like KO2s on instead of what comes on Tacoma you lose up to 2 mpg. That’s huge impact if you have to show it on the sticker.
Still people buying a Trd pro Tacoma probably don’t care about fuel economy
The EPA does
I would say they’re both right in a way. No doubt that most guys who buy this truck and are either planning on off-roading it or at least building it up with a lift will end up swapping out the rims and tires and the guys who are daily driving the truck but won’t see any significant amount of dirt will be happy with the stock tires. And for probably 90% of the people who buy this truck they won’t put it in any condition that requires more grip. And I’m sure there was also pressure to achieve the best mpg possible so their choice of tire makes perfect sense
@See Jay And yet chevy, ford, ram, jeep and others have figured out how to get Duratracs, TA KO2's, General Grabbers, etc on their factory trucks. The Ram Rebel, Chevy Trailboss, Ranger Tremor, Wrangler, Gladiator, etc all have much more aggressive tires.
I want many more videos just like this one! Do the same with the Ranger vs. Colorado, Wrangler vs. New Bronco (Rubicon vs. Badlands) F-150 vs. Silverado vs. Ram... and mix and match them. Also throw in the 4Runner in there!
More videos like this one and I’m all in!
Myself, I think for being mid size trucks both are over priced. On the other hand if I was big into off-roading the Jeep is what I would get. If I just did only moderate off-roading I would have a TRD PRO. I also like that both trucks are highly customizable through after market products and products from the manufacturer. Thanks for the review of both trucks TFL, Tommy & Andre. Great job guys.
I am looking at a fully loaded premium trim tacoma in Canada, $47k. An equivalent full sized truck with the same options is $70k. Trucks are expensive, period. The tacoma holds its value and is very reliable(low maintenance costs), so total cost of ownership will be quite affordable.
@@steve8803 I totally agree with you about trucks being so expensive. The Tacoma is a excellent truck I agree. The fact that Toyota's hold their value is definitely a huge plus. Go for bud.
@@ricwestdoesitwork Trust me, I am very frugal! I buy the vehicle in cash, and after 5 years sell and end up have a total cost of ownership of less than $300 cdn per month on a premium mid sized truck. Most people here pay more than that for their econobox!
@@steve8803 😄👍
Man I never get tired of looking at the tacoma trd pro. It’s just perfectly designed imo, I absolutely love how they look. Id choose the tacoma all day everyday. It’s still my favorite midsize truck on the market and has been for a long time now
The third gens are beautiful I agree totally.
I am really enjoying the view from my 2018 ZR2 that i bought new for $37k.
15 yrs later the only view of it is in a salvage yard
They should really takes into account the TRD Off-Road. Essentially the same as the pro (save for suspension) and so much cheaper (in price) And to upgrade to a more aggressive suspension (better bilstien, fox, or kings) wouldn't even get close to a TRD Pro MSRP. Save money AND be more capable off/on road
It’s only a $700 difference saved having the mods done yourself
I literally just priced this out on Toyota yesterday. $37k for an off-road I like, vs $45k for the pro. $8k buys a heck of a suspension.
Plus the off-road exists on lots, isn’t marked up, and can be had with cloth seats!! 😎👍🏼
@@upshifter5316 paid 32,000 for my manual offroad. Paid 45,000 for my TRD PRO with desert intake. Both are manual transmission. So a $13,000 difference is quite substantial... I've put $4,000 doing a budget build with my OFFROAD and at this point it is more capable than the Pro is and most of that money went to my camper 🐚 shell. As a side note both are 2019 models and were bought the same year with zero miles from the same dealer and sales rep.
@@upshifter5316 yup I have cloth seats in my Tacoma 6 speed manual OFFROAD and prefer it over the leather in my Pro to be honest.
S M Sounds awesome! I love cloth. Feel like nobody actually likes leather, we all just pretend to. It’s been not nice in very high end cars (real leather). Everywhere else no thanks!
I agree with Tommy about the tires. I would go with the Tacoma because I am only doing medium to light off roading.
Ever since seeing that Gladiator high-centered, I'm nervous about the wheelbase.
They do push their testing to the limits but if your main use is off-roading then the 2 door wrangler is really tough to beat.
The gladiator and tacoma are both great because they are versatile. Numerous more specialized vehicles are ideal, but of course that gets pricey.
wheelbase and clearance are similar to most full size trucks.... pick a good line and you dont get hung up much. Especially with underbody protection. You can usually be a bit more aggressive.... they have to be careful as they are either loaners or they want the resale value.
Like a lot of people I'm into the LJs, nice sweet spot in terms of length. but getting tough to find with under 100k miles.
Let’s be honest almost everyone is gonna lift a glad and put 35-37” tires on it if they’re going off road and even for aesthetics. It may still touch the skids but it’s really not a big deal for 95% of all the trails. A stock rubicon gladiator will cross the rubicon trail just fine
@@mattbrew11 totally agree in reality. I just have that image stuck in my head from the previous video of the Land Rovers rolling through and the Gladiator not doing as well. Granted, it didn't actually get stuck, just couldn't take the same line scraped a little. Everyone survived.
I paid $34,500 for my 2019 Toyota Tacoma TRD off road manual with pleather and full tech package. Could not justify almost being able to buy 2 Tacos for the price of a Gladiator.... as cool as they are!
I agree. Also the price you paid seems very reasonable for such a nice pickup. Hope you get many miles and smiles out of your taco.👍
That isn't pleather..
Toyota is using cell phone cameras from 2005 for external video.
Potato
as a tacoma owner... its true and very disappointing on toyotas part. Can they not find the balance between technological quality and MSRP? Even dodge has a better quality cameras in their cars... smh
Ovtune on my 19' pro Tacoma fixed the shift points, loving it.
Tacoma will always have a major one up because of its resale value. I just traded in my 2018 trd pro for 45.6k to upgrade to the 2021 Tacoma lol.
Jeep Wrangler is currently the number one best reselling car
@@pantloaded True and look at Rubicon models...hold value like crazy
When switching to 4wd, you have to be in drive for 4 Hi. Once the green light is solid, you then have to put it in neutral to go into 4 Low, use the locker, MTS, crawl control etc. The reason for 4 HI in drive, it allows you to switch in and out at will while driving. I've changed it in and back out at 60mpg. 🤙
It says how to use it right on the visor. All they got to do is read it
60 mph i think 🤔? Right on love the Tacoma myself
I have a Tacoma but would definitely rock a gladiator. I feel like the leg room is a wash because the seats don’t go back as far so that couples inches of seat travel gives a little more in the back. I’m 5’ 10” so head room isn’t a big problem
I'd like to see more off-road tests (water crossing also pls, you never do that!)
We don’t have any water here in Colorado. Streams perhaps.
This time of year? Water in CO? You're really funny...
Tommy can’t swim.
Hey Tommy and Andre... Tacoma has 6 lug bolt pattern..is it half ton or quarter ton??
I'd like to see a 2 door extended cab Gladiator with a shorter wheel base.
It won't happen unfortunately. Just get a wrangler unlimited and take off the roof and rear seats when needed.
I’d opt out of my diesel gladiator order for one with a “extra cab” size from the old Nissan days 2 door with a 6’ bed for sure.
You’d have to get a JK 4 door and convert it to a truck with one of the JK-8 molar kits. They’re hard to find though. I think they look the best out of all wrangler type trucks.
If they did an extended cab version, guaranteed they just lengthen the box and the wheelbase would be the same.
I’m a HUGE fan of the Tacoma higher floor because it seats more like a car, which is way easier on my back. I think I’m the exception though. It’s probably because I have really short legs.
Don’t sleep on the Goodyear Wrangler tires on the Taco, they work pretty well off road for an all-terrain. Those are stock on the Colorado Z71 too and they truly do offer the best of both worlds between on/off-road use. I went beach camping in the Rado and aired them down only to 30psi. Handled fine sand like a champ.
I LOVEEE the trd pro graphics personally. Looks so good. The tacoma trd pro is just the best looking midsize truck on the market to my eyes. Such a sharp looking truck. All I would do is throw on some falken wildpeaks or ko2’s and that’s all I would need.
I would always go with the Japanese rather than the Italian engineering.
Yup, it’s unfortunate that Jeep is now owned by Fiat. Although Chrysler was never dependable either 😞
dcwaku had a Fiat once in my life, time between broken and running was like 60:40.
@@tunintunin3417 60:40 is still ok by the terrible standards of Italian manufacturing. No one can build reliable cars, devices, etc etc like the Japanese...and Toyota is special even ny Japanese standards
O S I agree, We are a family of Land Cruisers, we have one 1978 FJ with 200k, one 2005 with 440k and one 2017 with 110k km... not a single glitch ever. We love them.
@@tunintunin3417 that's superb! My mother in law bought a Sharp microwave, a Brother washing machine, and a Hitachi fridge in 1994 (all made in Japan) when moving from one country to another. All 3 are still working, and no new microwave, fridge and washing machine has been bought since!!
I think what is never discussed or compared is aftermarket lifts. If you do a comparable lift on both trucks to both have 35” tires, the Toyota requires a body mount chop that needs welded closed afterwards. Even if you go long travel on the Toyota and add fiberglass fenders, you still have to do the chop.
Thankz guys
Good video Both are Great And Nice Looking Cars
Another great video
You guys missed the underneath storage compartments in the rear seats in the Tacoma, super functional.
As a former Tacoma owner I think the off road is the doper version and super capable.. never got stuck
Why’d you get rid of your taco and what’d you replace it with?
@@micahjones9528 hopefully a newer toyota
TRD OR is 100% dope
@TLF please when you do your next Tacoma towing test... can you test a long bed TRD sport or an SR5?
L.E.D lights and the steel modular bumper should come standard on the Gladiator Rubicon and My current 2020 JLU Rubicon. You are paying a premium price for the best off-road model and you should get the bonus for those add-ons included in the price.
The biggest winner with Jeep are the aftermarket producers as you always need are least 15 k more to have a capable Jeep
I've been into offroad camping since I was a kid. That's what dad called it back in the 70s/80s. Potentially buying a new vehicle this weekend. I've driven both the Tacoma and the Gladiator. I'm 6'6", 260lbs. Both vehicles were uncomfortable for me. At the Jeep dealership, it was uncomfortable enough that I didn't take it off the lot. What no one ever mentions is width. In both the Gladiator and the Tacoma, my shoulder was right up against the pillar. No, I'm a fullsize truck guy. Looking at both a '20 Tundra SR5 4x4 and a '19 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4. Leaning towards the Tundra for reliability and potential off road prowess when built.
Check out a F150 FX4......great value and capability
You are a large guy. Just by your stats, I could tell you need a full size truck and not a mid size. I just bought a Taco last week. This same green one actually. I'm 5'8 and 170 pounds, and this thing is so roomy even with my family of 4 loaded in. (I'm a giant compared to the rest of my family) But giants like you- that's what the big trucks were made for!
Stay away from the Ram. My dad had a 1998 Dakota that was problematic and he got 2 1995 Tacoma’s (in 1999) from 2 cousins and gave me one his just died in 2016 and he got another (SR 4-cyl Double Cab short bed) mine is still going strong.
You’ll be happier with the Tundra. The F-150 is a good truck, just stay away from the Ecoboost engines.
@@J.Young808, I currently own a '15 Ram 1500. Lol.
I agree with Tommy get 6.speed manual Taco, the instead of auto tyranny. But there again I perfer manual everything. I have a 2020 army green trd pro manual(without the ISIS air intake) its absolutely awesome 0 complaints! I store my weed in the box storage compartment.
PS Andre the Taco also doesn't come with a transmitting that can catch fire.
At 18:03... does your chrome trim on the aux switches not fit flush? Probably doesn't bother you but I don't think that is right. When installing the aux switches, I'm pretty sure the mount sits UNDER the screw mount for the locker panel. Silly dealership installers.
I just got a 2021 Toyota 4runner TRD Off Road. Go with Jeep. Both the 4runner and Tacoma transmission hunt for gears even on slight inclines on the freeways. I'm actually looking to do a 5.7 hemi swap with the 8 speed transmission.
The problem with the automatic equiped Tacoma is gearing. It's needs 4.88 gears with stock tires and 5.29s if you go with a taller tire.
is the gladiator manual or automatic?
If the ecodiesel was available when you got the Gladiator would you have opted for it?
I waited for it to order mine. Should be here in a couple weeks. I drove a diesel JL on 40s with stock gearing and it climbed a 7% grade like it was nothing.
This is the best comparison I’ve ever seen
Is the tacoma quieter in terms of cabin noise on the freeway? Or just about the same?
Jeeps are terrible on highway you can't even hear the radio. Go with tacoma. Toyota does a good job with noise level.
Gladiator V Power Wagon fella's. Similar pricing, both with lockers and S/B disconnects. offroad v offroad!
Does Tommy still have his JK, haven’t seen it in a long while.
No, I wish he did. I have the same year 2dr JK myself. I'd like to see long-term review on it. 🤷
The "Freedom" tops are cool but without a place to store them how usufull are they? I usually travel a couple hundred kilometers to where I wabt to go and I don't think I want to be without them encase it rains. Id rather have the hard top but then again I live in a place that like Colorado can get quit cold in the winter. Not sure thats a good idea either. But you guys had some softtop jeeps. How where they to drive when its like -20 F or heck just -10 F or colder?
I've owned both, well almost. I did not own the TRD Pro but the TRD Off-Road and currently the Jeep Gladiator Rubicon both were fully loaded with all options. So, first I will say that I love the "Retro" look of the Gladiator but for general modern pickups I think Tacoma 3rd gen is the best looking truck out there (Mid size or Full Size) on the exterior. Interior is horrible, looks way out dated against the Jeep. The JBL Toyota stereo system is not nearly as nice as Jeep's Alpine. The Infotainment on the Jeep is SO much nicer and actually works without a hick-up the Toyota was antiquated and had and issue when it updated and locked up. Also, the camera's (well should say Camera on the Toyota it had a rear one) the Jeeps front and rear are much more clear with higher resolution, the front with the wheel tracking is great off road or for parking.
Headroom, if your tall and like Tacoma -DO NOT get the sun roof. Mine had really low headroom, my friends without sun roof is a lot better. Coming from a Toyota FJ to Tacoma it felt cramped
Rear seat, Jeep wins more leg room for passengers.
Engine Transmission: JEEP. The Toyota 3.5 lacked low end torque and was always shifting. The Jeep has much better torque off the line the 8 speed transmission is better than Toyota's 6 speed.
Ride: Depends. If your off road the Jeep is amazing, straight axle, two lockers to Toyota's rear. Plus Jeep has electronic sway bar disconnect...Rubicon is amazing off road. On street I would say that the Tacoma "handles" better with IFS suspension.
Reliability: I honestly have had really no problems with either one. I would always give edge to Toyota on that factor, except off road. If your really going off road than IFS Suspension isn't going to be as durable as a straight axle especially if you start lifting and running bigger tires. That is where the Jeep shines. In fact there is another CZcamsr who did that comparison. Daily driving Toyota reliability is legendary, but if your really 4x4 the truck and things can break - advantage Jeep.
I am bias, I think my Jeep Rubicon is nicer than my Toyota TRD Off Road was ........It should be it was about 12k more money. Do I think it is worth the extra 12k? NO, but then again I think most trucks are way over priced.
Good vid. I really like the calm version of Tom. I have had jeeps for decades. I currently own a Gen3 Taco overlanding. I chose the Tavo because of the combination of reliability and cost. The Jeep is way over priced. The value made the difference for me. The transmission is fine. Once you learn to drive it it does the job well. I installed hood lift kit and it’s not heavy. My biggest complaint is the seating position. But there are tons of after market solutions for that. They cured the issue for me. It’s the Tavo for me. I would be afraid to take the Jeep too far from the barn
One comment Tom, you have a tendency to slap things that makes a sharp sound that can be disruptive to the flow
The hood's not heavy if you actually have biceps and have heard of a gym but that kid has a beta male physique and the arms of a 12 year old girl. All men should maintain at least some sort of a physical fitness standard throughout their lives that involves free weights it's a part of manhood. If someone like him were to even just do a 20 minute a day workout routine it would still make a dramatic and life changing difference so he can't say there's no time there really are no excuses it's just laziness.
Tacoma Rust ... has only just begun? I have a 2011 Tacoma. It will be 10 years old in December. It has 80,000 miles and has been through 10 Minnesota winters. I am changing out all the drive line fluids. During the process, I was shocked how rusted out everything is (front to back) under the truck.
The taco has a bed light it’s built into the rear overhead brake light
Also you can buy the side LED bedlights for $65 online, and they install in 15 minutes because the wiring and plugs are already there behind the taillights.
Wow, an overhead light! That's some serious innovation and sophistimmications going on. Toyota is really bringing things into the 1970s.
@@nukewiller4083 That and the tacoma TRD Pro comes with lane departure, auto high beams, auto cruise control, front and rear collision detection, cross traffic rear detection, 360 degree top-view camera, Apple Carplay, wireless charging, and blind spot indication standard. No other truck in this class comes with all that standard.
@@42bill And still has drum brakes. I'll take the better braking system. You can keep the tech.
@@shiftmotorsports9803 If you swapped the rear drums brakes with disk brakes, the truck would not stop 1 inch shorter. It would have zero difference in petal feel, and it would have zero change in reliability. Rear brakes provide barely any braking force in the road, and the drum brakes in the rear work perfectly for slow offroad driving. Not one owner of a Tacoma ever had a braking problem due to their rear drums, for the last 20 years. Yet, the new technology immediately has saved thousands of accidents, and probably hundreds of lives. Every owner with the modern saferty tech can tell you how it saved them from a crash at least once. Your logic is flawed.
The old 4L was the best. But I would go with the tacoma all day everyday & twice on sunday. Gladiator looks awkward and fugly.
I think they look awesome with a basic 2” lift and 37s
3rd gen Tacoma powertrain is trash. A pickup should not have to be revved to the moon to get power out of, save that for passenger cars.
Have a 19 4runner with that engine and a 19 trd pro and the Tacoma engine is better especially on the highway. Once it gets in the higher rev band the 4l can't compare. The 4l has a little bit more torque off the line but TFL did the Ike Gauntlet Tow testing and the 3.5 beat the 4l in less time and maintained a higher speed. I will say my Tacoma has Ovtune which reprogrammed the transmission shift points which makes it alot better.
@@Boltdriver70thats because it has different gearing & while the new atkinson engine with D-4S system is more fuel efficient. it feels weak against the 4L. They also did a race where the 2nd gen beat the 3rd gen. It's a faster truck & better looking truck imo. Fuel efficiency.. 2 more mpg meh.
I think if you change your own oil, you'd appreciate 2nd gen more.
@@sharpshooter012345 funny I have a 2014 dclb and I love it! Was telling my friend who has a 2018 that he should change his oil. Popped his hood and realized his filter isn't up top like mine. Haha he said he'll keep paying for oil changes.
What is the point of putting the diesel in the Gladiator? From everything I have read, it will not tow any more than the 3.6 liter Pentastar V6, due to the small grill not allowing sufficient cooling.
Rubicon sounds like the Transformer that came from the farm to help Megatron and TRD Pro sounds like a plumber who deals with septic tanks.
The first thing I did with my Tacoma was to swap the factory tires out for the Duratracks, Love those tires.
You guys should buy a TRD Pro or Off-road and fully equip it like you did with the Rubicon and compare the two.
That Goodyear wrangler Kevlar, may not look fancy. But it's s pretty good tire.
Interesting to review these two when they're both almost new. I love Jeep, but I know which one will be in better shape in 10yrs.
Remember 130k miles later hahaha.
I was gonna say 150K...lol
130k miles later, the Jeep would have been long gone.
Jeep engine issues Lol they suck especially when they don't off road Lol no good
You guys should address that towing remains the same between the manual and auto with the Taco versus the Gladiator. It's a bummer you can't get similar towing in the Gladiator with the manual otherwise I would consider it.
Sometimes while messing with the transfer case, you need to creep forward a few inches for the gears to line up and mesh
Guys, I have not heard anybody talk about the upcoming 2021 Ram Dakota. Any info would be nice. Thanks
Several of you at TFL has commented on Jeep Wrangler/Gladiator lacking legroom for us taller people. How about installing and testing seat rail extensions?
They aren’t even that tall. They’re at most 6’1 dunno why they complain so much.
@@AustinH7 the Russian bear is 6'5" I think
I ride off-road with plenty of Taco Pros and I’m board in my Gladiator Rubicon and the tacos struggle in some spots. In the end for me the Taco Pro was going to cost more because the dealers won’t discount them at all and the Rubicon was cheaper with discounts. Ultimately quality go with the Taco for Off-road go with Gladiator
For all the complaints about the drum brakes you should do 10 hard measured stops between the 2 and see which does better. I don't say this as a fanboy but honestly I'd like to actually see it put to the test. Id bet the Tacoma brakes do just as well as anything in it's class but with less maintenance. I feel like people like to complain about it's oldness, but the wheel is also very old and still pretty effective.
Because that test was done in the mid 80s to prove that. Maybe its on a reel to reel somewhere
thats the same test that determined "there's no replacement for displacement" right? Give me a break.
No clearly smaller cylinders are far more effective, especially with forced induction. You are the old school thinker not me. Drums might work fairly close for 1 braking bur every brake apllication after that will be longer. Its not even a debate.
@@dad2817 Its clearly a debate. I'd like someone to show it in 2020, because my experience and instinct is telling my that its not going to play out the way "everyone already knows".
The truth is that the rear brakes on a pickup are such a small part of the equation that I don't think it remotely matters if they are drum or disc. I can tell you that the Tacoma, the Gladiator, the colorado, and the ranger all stop within a few feet of each other which says a lot. I would bet that even after 10 hot runs it wouldn't change.
But I guess if you'd rather call it settled without testing it and continue on your way with assumed knowledge, that's your prerogative.
@@PatrickRich That's the same logic as Mike Sweers saying the Tundra mysteriously doesn't need a transmission cooler anymore after 11 years, and oh yeah, "we're using the exact same powertrain". Don't be a sheep.
Does lifting cause ADAS runout...
The best thing about the wrangler, is the lack of safety crap!
Ryan Fillmore I don’t understand why people continuously complain about newer cars trying to make it safer for everyone on the road. Like wouldn’t you rather not have some idiot rear end you because their car has automatic stop? I definitely would after being rear ended 4 times; it’s not fun...
Philip Alani well for one thing there’s no upgrading the front bumper with all that crap Toyota is requiring
@@macbookpro57 being in an accident is not fun, been there, but I still don't want the added safety crap. All that is necessary on full size and larger trucks is seatbelt.
3.0 liter diesel is available for order now
I want a midsize truck and I am looking at the Chevy ZR2 which gives me the best of both worlds however if they drop a 392 in the Gladiator I just might have to throw my money right in Jeeps face.
I opted for the diesel rubicon. Much better motor than either zr2 option
I found the gear hunting was more of an issue when I bought my tacoma new. After I put some miles on it.. It’s either not an issue.. or I just don’t notice it anymore.
I've heard the computer adapts to your driving pattern. But you're probably just used to it.
Correct ! The transmission adapts ( or learns ) your driving habits and responds accordingly.
I know we are talking stock trucks and for disclaimer if i were to buy again I would probably not buy a Tacoma or gladiator. For the $5000 premium on the gladiator you can take that and add more clearance and better tires on the Tacoma . That probably gives you the same capability if not more then the gladiator with a lot more technology, reliability, and functionality for the same price. Given that, would you still pick the gladiator?
Yes I would. I just trade in my 17 Tacoma TRD O/R in 2 months ago for the same move and would do it again. After owning a 2nd gen Tacoma, the 3rd gen Tacoma powertrain was a step in the wrong direction. I would take my 14 Tacoma over the 17 Tacoma anyday of the week.
big simpin yea I’m not super happy with my Tacoma either but I don’t think a gladiator is going to change much for me.
My brother just got a 2020 6.2L Silverado with the RST and Z71 packages. It's got 4 full size doors. A 6'8'' bed, a rear locker, and can tow 13,400 pounds. He got all that for $50k. Unless I planned on doing A LOT of off-roading on tight trails I'd take his Silverado over these two any day.
But this isn't a video about Silverados isn't it...😒
Good honest opinions. I'm glad Tommy mentioned the Toyota quality and reliability. That's why I drive one.
My 2017 4 runner was an absolute nightmare thank god for lemon laws
@@mattbrew11
I'm sure it happens. But statistics don't lie. Toyota still has the best quality track record out there.
Tom A they don’t top the JD power list any longer
@@mattbrew11
Ohhhhhhh, you did not just refer to the JD Powers list! The "We'll give good ratings to the highest bidder" list. Haha.
Tom A well I guess Toyota paid them for a long time them
Test drove a Tacoma. My problem with it wasn't the seating position. It was the steering wheel reach. Driving with straight arms is not very comfortable. That 1/2" to 1" telescoping column didn't do much. Sat in a Gladiator. My head was bumping the sport bar. I'm only 6'-3. Couldn't pick either of these. Both seem like a load of fun.
Try the Ranger. It's bigger
@@henryford2736 Bought my truck in 2017. Won't get another one for several more years.
@@matbasterson2128 what truck did you get?
@@henryford2736 I got a Nissan Frontier. SV Long bed and moon roof. Been happy with it. Really considered the Tacoma.
Tacoma ECT button is the trick to stop the issues with gear hunting. Why does nobody mention this?
Actually instead of activating ect try turning off completely trac off by just holding it down for few sec. My trd or kinda drives more smoother kinda feels lighter to me. Also while off roading you should always do the above advise too and I use sequential mode for the transmission can do most trails in s1 s2.
They briefly skipped over suspension. The Tacoma pro has a great setup probably worth about 2k. where the gladiator has basic bottom end fox shocks that are 150 a piece.
And the gladiator still performs better offroad. If you’re leaving it stock, get a Mojave which outmatches the TRD pros suspension by miles
They are 2.5” remote reservoir with hydraulic bump stops. Better than anything else
They should put the same tires on the Tacoma TRD Pro as they do on the 4Runner TRD Pro.
Colorado ZR2! Still, little love from these guys... the Chevy offers a GREAT balance between the two compared here and a good bang for the (high) buck.
That’s probably the one I’d go for too. I’d love a diesel ZR2.
I real test would compare rigs with the same tire size, ground clearance and wheel base. HP and TQ can be offset with gear ratios.
Jeeps going to be in the shop
Gladiator needs a Hemi option. Doesn't matter if it is the 5.7 or the 392, it needs more humpf! At least on the rubicon trim model
U have to go into 4hi first duh Andre lol...if u do it goes into 4lo much easier. My Tundra was that way im assuming the electric mechanism has an easier time shifting in increments
People tend to forget how easy it is to mod a Gladiator compared to the Taco, and the fact that the JL and JT parts are interchangeable. If I was running stock, Taco all day. If I'm modding, Gladiator.
19:50 they keep saying $50k like you can get a Gladiator Rubicon for anything less than $65k. While, where I live in Fairbanks, AK, you can't get a base level stock sport gladiator trim for less than $45-50k, much more a Rubicon trim level at $65-70k with no added options. Might as well get the TRD pro at $46-50k depending on optional equipment.
An opposing view of which is liked. Who would have guessed? ;). Glad Tommy owned up to liking the Toyota for an everyday rig, because of his complaints about the leg room in the Gladiator. If he had not, I would have lost some of that respect I have for him. lol. So, 100% agree with his opinion on the choices here.
Excellent
You can’t find a manual TRD pro, 8 dealers told me it’s a unicorn.
I feel the competition for the gladiator is a 4runner pro but I am sure there are many videos for that already.
To engage four low it has nothing to do with your “level”. He put it in neutral and tried to switch from two wheel all the way to four (it was blinking because it was waiting did him to switch to four high first. To change first switch to four high while in gear then switch to neutral and switch to four low. He just did it out of order the first time.
I'll admit the safety stuff is nice bui do you really want that in a TRD were its going to be annoying you all the time if you off road with it?
HAHAHAHAHA! I guess it is not a JR Vs. SR Thing in these series. Turns out it is a JR Millennial Thing where he has to have a different opinion with everything! Good entertainment boys keep it commin!
The Gladiator has the same engine as my Dodge Grand Caravan.
Doesn’t mean much at all, the penestar engines have proven their reliability across the board.
@@bradgt5130 wasn't poking fun, just surprised at it
The taco has the same engine as a Camry.... I have one. It’s a dog even with the MT.
@@agraetzel Amen. The 2nd gen Tacoma powertrain with the 4.0L and 5 spd. was so much better than the 3.5L / 6 spd in the 3rd gen.
Can you ask the Toyota engineers why they deleted the in bed storage that was available in the same generation prior years?
Lack of "safety" electronic babysitters is a big plus, except for adaptive cruise control, that one I'd like. Choosing one for being American made is no longer a difference. Seating position and capability is better in the Jeep. Jeep for the win.
Had a 2017 Tacoma 4X4 Off Road and towing my 4K boat with four passengers and gear was a total disappointment. Especially going up those huge bridges up in Key West, Florida. After that trip i traded this truck in for a Tundra. Tacoma is a good truck, but it is NOT a family and/or towing vehicle.
The trd pro is basically matched by a stock fx4 ranger so other than the longer wheelbase the gladiator is superior
No mention of the ECT Power button? When you press it's on its worth 50hp
Electronically controlled transmission button is for going up and down hills which they don’t mention and helps with the gear hunting.
@@PureBlood777 yeah I was being a smart ass since they tested that button once before in a drag race.
The gearing is the issue (or perhaps a better way to say is a way you can fix the poor programming) with the Tacoma auto trans. If you regear that trans up to 4.88 (stock config) or even 5.13 if you wanna runn 33-35 in. tires then it does MUCH better
Tacoma: better quality
Gladiator: better off road
Tacoma: often driven by bro truck types
Gladiator: often driven by soccer moms
Both: chances of being taken off road about 3%
Who cares? Why is it that what people do with their vehicles bother CZcams commenters so much?
quailty from tacoma has went down hill since they moved some of the builds to mexico
Funny because it's true!
JD power just put out an article saying majority of Tacomas today are indeed bought by women.
@@theseb1979 Please point out the part of my comment where I stated that I cared what type of vehicles people purchase or what they did with their vehicles.
Just wondering why not comparing with zr2 as well?
I agree. You don't see a lot of the ZR2 anywhere.
David Taylor TFL has done that in the past. The issue I had back then was that they only compared it to lesser equipped trucks.
@@tuliosantos5962 They need to bring it back.
Tacomas are everywhere but it's rare when I spot a ZR2.
@@davidtaylor5811they only make maybe 1.5k trd pros they are not everywhere. I live in a town of 7k people and I've seen 3 ZR2s but I'm the only one with a pro. There's maybe 100 reg tacomas and Colorados
@@Boltdriver70 I shouldn't have lumped in the Off Road with the Pro models but I guess it depends on where you live.
TRD Pro and ZR2 are both rare compared to the other models but I see more TRD Pro Tacomas where I live.
Nice truck btw, I'm jealous!
You should ask Toyota why the Tacoma uses a knob but the 4Runner gets a real lever for the transfer case !!!
Yeah buddy
You've never showed us the gladiator fully naked
I had a 2013 Tacoma trd ccsb and really liked it but out grew it. Price at that time was 32k. As time has gone on of course price has gone up and yet its still not offered with any usb, aux power port for rear passenger. I would also like to see an increase in hp and tq numbers and towing capacity. I also wanted to mention Toyota definitely needs to improve clarity and resolution in the cameras. My 2017 ram 1500 has a clearer camera.
My 2013 rubicon had a flat style paint...Dune.
im pretty sure thats a 2021. 2020 Tacomas had the voodoo blue special color cuz mine is a voodoo blue 2020. didnt see a single army green 2020 on any lots in my area. and the back seats in the Tacoma are fine for adults, long as your not 6 foot or taller. if you are 6 foot or taller, a full sized half ton or 3/4 ton is better for you than a midsize truck
How does a $50k truck not have hydraulic lifters for the hood and drum brakes? I love Toyota, but C'mon.