Solomonster Reacts To CM Punk's Legal Letter To The Elite + Ace Steel's AEW Release
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- čas přidán 9. 09. 2023
- Solomonster reacts to the latest fallout from the CM Punk termination from AEW, including reaction from some of the top stars in WWE, the rumored idea Punk had for a return in this year's Royal Rumble and why it was never going to happen, Ace Steel released from his AEW contract, the unexpected meeting with Punk and the Young Bucks at Wembley Stadium and the legal letter reportedly sent by Punk to The Elite over a skit on their Being The Elite show.
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This Punk Drama Feels Endless
And Meltzer will continue to stir that drink as long as he thinks the Bucks are his friends
That's because it is endless bro, one thing after the other
Best story going in wrestling!!! Lol
Because these channels need views and clicks
@@zachfreund9157Like the one you gave this channel.
So in AEW, Punk is toxic but if Punk “goes back to the WWE,” all of a sudden he’s fine. The favoritism is high.
WWE won't put up with the toxic activity. He would be fired quickly. Ace Steel would not get a backstage job in WWE. CM Punk will not get his own show. Punk will not be consulted for matches or have any sayso in creative. So it prevents his outburst because he knows he will be sent home...
@@brandoni241sounds to me like he has no reason to go 😂
Punk was toxic in WWE too. The fanboys just thought he was the victim
@@jordan12118He's been toxic everywhere he's worked.
So young bucks sending they're lawyers to punk telling him not to talk to them isn't toxic?
If Punk somehow, someway is able to weasel his way back into the WWE, I hope Kevin Owens can remind Punk of that shirt incident back in the indies and then also bring up that he's main evented WrestleMania... TWICE... in a shirt.
More likely he’s gonna go straight to Seth and say we got a problem Seth will probably be like I don’t like you punk punches him and Seth defends himself only for the punk defenders to say he’s not done anything wrong
And that he got to wrestle Steve Austin.
I don’t see Kevin Owens being the type of guy to intentionally start backstage drama bullshit unlike the kids in AEW, but who knows. Maybe I’m just a mark, and I just wanna see that Owens/Punk Mania match. 🤷♂️
@@theenigmaalie2792na Seth with start shit with him then all the little Seth’s little bitch fans will cry
Unlike CM Karen, Kevin Owens doesn't seem like the type of guy to stir shit up.
It really astounds me how Cm Punk managed Fuck all this up sooo bad 🤨 Like this company Wanted you from the very beginning, Treated you better than WWE, paid you well, Made you the top star, & Even after your spat at Brawl Out they still brought you back and gave you your own show. They literally gave you EVERYTHING you could have wanted & And he proceeded to piss all over it in just 2 years over Ego & Pettiness.
Seriously How? HOWW?!?! Do you fuck up something that good so bad?????
They gave him his own show, so the so called evps of the company didn't have to deal with him.
Always two sides to the story.
Payed? 😆
@@DoubleThinkFanI don't blame them one bit for not wanting to deal with him. I'd let lawyers deal with him too at this point.
@DeadmanInc336 they let the lawyers deal with him after brawl out.
So two grown adults with kids had to use they're lawyers to deal with a situation.
Instead of talking it out like adults and evps of a company
@@DoubleThinkFan I mean, you're forgetting that Punk publicly dragged their names through the mud over baseless rumors that we don't even know are true to this day still. He then physically assaulted them backstage over said rumors and in the presence of the heads of HR/Legal and Talent Relations. I wouldn't want to deal with him at all at that point either since it's clear Punk cannot be trusted.
As much as I’m not a Punk fan (anymore), all this falls on TK. If he allowed Punk to demand this and demand that and acquiesced all of it it’s 100% on him.
If these recent events caused you to not be a fan, you never were one to begin with.
WB wanted CM Punk back as the face of collision, but you right It’s TK fault for not stopping it last year when the drama first started.
@@systerkenoAre you sure about that?
@@lancethefilmguy9392 100%. Fans=Fanatics.
@@systerkeno how so? Please let me hear you dictate to me how my fandom should go. Ready 3…2….1…. And I stopped being a Punk fan long before this debacle. But again please try to explain your unfounded statement
My older brother told me this last week ... "CM Punk is this generations Ultimate Warrior!"
He is just too damn sensitive and gets too warped into his own hype.
Long time wrestling fans know about how the Warrior was backstage.
So bad Vince fired him after a match. Punk gonna get the same treatment twice by Vince
Your brother has a point though.
Chicago Meltdown Punk, the first and only guy being fired by both WWE and AEW.
Ace Steel: Another One Bites the Dust. The only person that has been fired twice by AEW.
FOX offered to pay CM Punk's contract for him to come to SD! Vince still passed on getting him. That says ALOT.
Vince probably didn't want the studio (and Punk) having leverage in a situation like that.
Who will agree to that, to be honest? I mean it's Vince's show.
@@Youtuube304s If Vince had liked Punk. He would have just signed him himself and brought him to SD! His refusal to do business with Punk at all speaks volumes.
@@spinebuster9490 Both WCW and TNA have done it. It's not far fetched for a Network to pay someone's contract.
@kevinlee9929 don't disagree but he's certainly not going to have a guy on the roster that answers to FOX. That should be obvious.
Imagine if he returns to AEW at some point after several months that would be funny
TK should tell Mr. Phil Brooks to go seek mental therapy first before rehiring him because he can't control his anger and emotions. Punk needs to battle his demons.
@@nwo2cool I agree 💯.
I don't see that happening unless several other people leave first.
@@nwo2coolPunk simps: it’s not his fault. They provoked him. He was only defending himself
😂😂😂
He won't, not happening now! AEW is a f'd up place 😂
Honestly the WWE would be stupid to get this guy, they’re business is going more then well, they have plenty of talent that is over with the crowd Reigns, Rhodes, Rollins, Gunther, LA Knight, etc…not worth the trouble and headache imo
Yep I keep saying both WWE and AEW have solid rosters at this point. WWE really doesn't need him but it's up to them of course.
Roman needs someone else to beat.
Exactly there is no reason to bring this nutcase back
People talk about Punk like he's prime Austin, Rock, Hogan or Cena LOL
@@kevinlee9929only his fanboys think he is on the same level as them
I'd book Punk to lose to Miz after one SCF in Saudi Arabia.
I'd book him to be a Jobber for the rest of his career.
Endeavor will ask Vince what he thinks and he will cancel that idea.
It's not his decision though so I think it's a strong possibility 🤔
@@Lorenzo3K I'm certain Vince has enough power within the company to veto that deal.
@@pandamein2297bro never one is ever really gone from WWE. If guys like Hogan, Bret Hart, Ric Flair, Hardy Boys can all come back so can CM Punk.
@@aaronvega3822 lol 😂 nailz , Jesse Ventura, Chyna
@@pandamein2297 RIP Chyna and hate that I’m saying this. But none of them were Punk level value like the other names I mentioned. So yeah again if someone like Hogan, BRET HART of all people can come back, so can Punk.
People need to remember, FOX in 2019 asked and begged for Cm Punk to return to the WWE and go back in the ring to the point they offered to pay his complete salary no matter the amount of money he asked or demanded.
But Vince said "NO" multiple times because he knows first hand how Punk is
Punk was talking to WWE before signing with AEW. They didn't want him at the time cause of the money. Tony was offering double what WWE was willing to pay. WWE has interest in Punk. You know who they have no interest in hence why they resigned with AEW? The Bucks. Even their friends know those guys start and cause alot of bs.
Oh right had nothing to do with Vince feeling scorned by Punk. People seem to have conveniently forgotten that Punk left WWE, not the other way around
@@HowdoICZcamss I’m agreeing with you. I’m replying to OP who thinks Vince doesn’t want punk because he’s “too much trouble” when it could instead be that Vince is bitter because punk left him
Whatever cm punk does it won’t matter unless he gets serious help first and work on all this pent up anger he has
Some think he is giving off Benoit , right before-2007 vibes, imo I hope not
He needs some weed lol
The only difference between CM Punk and Ultimate Warrior is that Ultimate Warrior was reckless in the ring, but both have unhinged egos and toxicity.
Punk is toxic to goof wrestles who could not get a job at a local glory hole unless they were friends with the owner.
Also I think a lot of Punk’s attitude has to do with him having a difficult childhood; I’ve never heard about Warrior having a troubled childhood.
and warrior was in great shape
Punk's knee strikes look fake and his diving elbow was sloppy...if we're talking ring work.
@@ThunderForce2000Millions of athletes have rough childhoods...from being in single parent households, living with grandparents, poor, battling illness, homelessness, etc..various scenarios...and they all don't behave like Punk.
If CM Punk goes back to WWE they will get their revenge on WWE aka Vince McMahon will make him a super jobber book him to lose every match, and if he refused to do the match he will be fined six figures.... Or they will sign him just to put him on the shelf and not use him at all, he'll wish he stayed in AEW after WWE gets through with him.
Hes gonna destroy any legacy he has left. But as Solomonster mentioned he has trust issues which was from trauma as a youngster.(hence trust issues) And until one can get the help the need they'll always have issues.
Oh stop his legacy is with wwe no one cares about aew he is literally one hof call away from being purged of all wrongdoing
IDK I think a fair amount of Punk's diehard fanbase likes him specifically because he butts heads with people they don't like, so whatever one may think of his conduct, it kind of plays into that and forms something of a mystique around him as a rebel.
@@user-do2ev2hr7hThere's a reason why his song is called Cult Of Personality. 😅
The problem is that some people live in their own bubble and shared delusions. And I am talking about the elite club and fans.
What a man is supposed to do when the EVPs are typical left liberal californian and canadian b*tches who love to live in their own candy land bubble while being toxic to others outside their bubble, spreading rumours just for fun, and they are joined in by wrestling media folks (which BTW has been proven to be all manufactured), and the boss of that company is even a bigger pacifist who wouldnt do jack sh*t about it, incapable as a leader?
Its like school yard rules in AEW- the messers get away with all the messing just because the teacher never took actions to the messee's complaints, and when the messee took matter into his own hands, suddenly the teacher decides to suspend the messee cuz he retaliated. Reason being- you shouldn't have done that, we expected better.
FCUK THAT!
Well when did Solomonster become Dr.Phil
It boggles my mind that this ended with Punk getting fired and there are still lunatics trying to peddle this entire fiasco as one giant work.
There is no writer on planet Earth who could make all of this shit up.
Just like Cody leaving was a work. Surely he'll be back in AEW anyday now. Anyyyyyyyyyyyday now....
You punch co-workers in the face multiple times you get fired.
@@mdptg1990 Not in sports. Fist fights happen every preseason in football.
@@mattroxursoul wrestling isn’t a sport it’s entertainment pretending to be sport. In some cases it’s an art-form if we’re talking about some of the best wrestlers in the world
@@mdptg1990 Playing a sport at pro level is a job though.. Is wrestling even pretending to be a sport at his point? Sports sort of make sense on goals and motivations for people.
Punk doesn’t value how limited his time is with age and risk of injuries. Aew with punk could have drawn so much money and pushed the company to new heights but he can’t see that vision.
Is it worth throwing a live grenade in your locker room though?
Is punk suffering from CTE? Those ufc fights could have messed him up. All it takes is 1 punch.
Hmm interesting theory
Lol the Young Bucks literally put CM Punk into the naughty corner and every temper tantrum just added another week to his time out 😂😂😂
Love to hear your thoughts on Kevin Nash comparing CM Punk to the Ultimate Warrior.
Punk marks looking the other way, as usual. The guy has made a literal CAREER of creating drama right from his days in the indies with Teddy Hart.
With everything said about this..I think Punk shares the most blame in this..the rest goes to Tony, the Bucks and Kenny. I mean I'm not going to sit here and defend CM Punk's actions..
But as wrestling fans there was 3 opponents. Major Dream matches that will never happen now..
Vs tanahashi, verse okada and we never get Punk vs Omega the match I really wanted to see and they were probably working towards that but due to his injuries in all of this stuff that happened behind-the-scenes we as fans are going to get screwed out of those You could argue he can go to Japan still and have two of those matches...
You can argue that if he can fix things with the elite.. he technically could still have that dream match with Kenny Omega in Japan..I find it doubtful...
I would also find it very hard for New Japan to even work with Punky because they have a a very good working relationships with New Japan Pro Wrestling so I doubt the Japanese when it deal with his attitude over in Japan
I really wanted Punk Vs Danielson
Here’s my question for those blaming punk….who went to the dirt sheets spreading shit about colt cabana?? The elite! Did Tony end it? NO! Who went into business for themselves on national tv during a promo? Hangman! Did Tony do anything?? NO!! So, Punk retaliated with a promo of his own to give a receipt !
Who brought up what had been brewing for months at the media scrum? Nick Haussmann, and Punk responded, and said it like it was and set the record straight…
Who stormed into who’s locker room and STARTED A FIGHT?? the elite! So punk fought back! Were the EVPS even reprimanded besides a “2 week” vacation?? Nope!!! All the while Punk had to sit home for defending himself
Then he was sent home. Who then while Punk was suspended went on tv and mocked him and nothing was done?? The bucks and Tony!! Continuing to needle this guy!
Then he comes back and gives a receipt verbally…
Then they ASK PUNK to talk to Jack and Jack decided it was a good idea to go into business for himself and push punk…not to mention, by this point, a squash the beef meeting was canceled , then he arrives in London and AEW efffs that up with punk, so punk was already hot, then he has to watch Perry disrespect him yet again so he confronts him and the rest is history!
I blame Punk for biting the bait, but they’ve been out to get him since spring 2022 and Tony did nothing about it! Punk has never changed and will stand up for himself, yet he’s vilified for it! There’s a saying I believe in… efff around and find out! They all effed around and found out
@ShawnRakar seen it before multiple times when he was better
He's literally his wrestling character 😂👀
I don't think Punk will be returning to WWE. For the sake of his mental health, he just needs to stay out of wrestling. He should enjoy his life and retire completely. If he gets a call for the hall of fame, he should take it and leave it at that.
Yep. He needs to speak to a counselor. And I say this from experience, it definitely helps you in life.
The last time the Young Bucks wait until a locker room with Punk to have a meeting one of them was punched in the face and the other was hit with a steel chair, and one of my good friends was bitten on the arm by a human being.... CM Punk buried them at that media Scrum and made himself seemed like he was the biggest attraction and they wasn't anything even though the company is named after The Elite.
Afterward fieldbrook said about the Young Bucks and Kenny Omega as VP's they decided that they don't want to work with him because they don't trust him, he holds a grudge and he could retaliate in the ring.
Punk is such a mark for Bret Hart, he must have remembered Vince gave Bret a "free shot" after the screwjob, so he took a swing .
This is a heel program as Solomonster has mentioned. Punk needs to get professional treatment and the carnies need to stop holding corporate positions. Lord, AEW drama has really turned me away from the current product because this clique has corporate power so they can act like assholes and get away with it because they know they have an army of fans to defend them. It really ruins this illegitimate business for me.
Funny thing is, this is exactly the same behavior that has turned me off from follow the industry so closely now.
I still drop in from time to time (such as this Punk mess) but the high school hijinks and mentality is simply ridiculous.
Men acting like children over such petty things is what this industry is now and you have a whole podcast industry that makes a buck off reporting about the drama.
Meh.
Your perspective on all this drama is detailed yet very concise. This is great summary on the entire situation stemming back months.
I hate to say this but if ever there was a person who needed to just smoke a J
...do you, Phil, but ffs man pump the brakes some
I don't think that CM Punk is returning to the WWE. Not only do people in the locker room not like him,but he's not as much of a draw as he used to be. When he returned to wrestling,people loved. When he came back to AEW from injury,but,nobody really cared. With him being a nuisance in the locker room and people not really caring anymore,he might as well retire from wrestling
He’s coming back
He's coming back if he wants to. Biggest draw in wrestling today. WWE could sign him foe 5M and know they'll make 10x that money back in a month only on merchandise. Also, the roster is split between the elite and Punk.
@@systerkenoHad this been 10 years ago? I would have said yes. But in 2023? Not quite sure about that
@@lancethefilmguy9392 AEW made the cost of Punk's contract back in 3 days only on t-shirts.
Survivor Series
IF this legal letter thing is true, it is yet another indication of Punk's paranoia that everyone is out to get him, bectas far as I know, that was a long running joke im BTE from years ago way before Pink even signed.
Punks biggest enemy is himself. He really had something good going on.
If Punk goes to WWE it will likely be because of Endeavor.
OP... Tell me you are an Elite guy without telling me your Elite guy!...
The hypocrisy in Punk to send a legal letter to the Elite over a BTE skit that really had nothing to do with him. And yet Punk openly took shots at the Elite with the "counterfeit Bucks" line and spraypainting over the E on his replica AEW title.
So one's okay but the other isn't?
I really could see Vince McMahon and Triple H hiring punk but only to stick it to aew.
Pretty much. They'll probably make a documentary about it titled "Chicago Made" The Cm Punk story 😂😂😂
Let's face the facts: A lot of employees who used to left WWE, and talked shit about WWE in other promotions, and then ended up returning to WWE are bunch of hypocrites. Let me drop couple names: Hulk Hogan, Eric Bischoff, Goldberg, Cody Rhodes, The Warrior, Billy Gunn, Road Dogg, Madusa, Mick Foley, Bret Hart, and Mickie James.
Foley?
@@mathiasgarelik Yes. Foley quit WWE in 2008 to go to TNA because Vince McMahon didn't like him as a color commentator. Foley took shots at Vince McMahon about he always get yelled by Vince thru the headsets, and Foley was frustrated with WWE creative. Foley even go on social media, criticized WWE on the bookings on the women's division, and the Royal Rumble 2015 match.
Stop being a mark
I was gonna give this a listen but the moment Meltzer's name came out of your mouth, I stopped it and am now moving on. ✌
“For jungle boy. JUNGLE BOY.” 😂😂😂
Ask TK cause he just killed his own company for JUNGLE BOY
The Punktards are gonna slam Solomonster as an Elite stooge now.
If I was TK I would've at least made everyone have a sit down and talk it out and squash the beef but if they still didn't want to work together fine, I wouldn't punish anyone after that, there's so many other people that both sides could've worked with and made money with, make money wherever you can and move on don't fuck up what you do have by trying to get it all.
I don't think CM Prick is willing to hash out with the Elite. If he wants to make peace with the Elite, then Punk shouldn't remove Christopher Daniels, Matt Hardy, and Hangman Page out of Collision, especially the incident with Jack Perry, and taking shots at Page after the show. Punk should be welcoming the Elite's friends to show he's willing to do business with them, but he didn't do it. I don't blame The Elite for canceling the meetings because Punk is so full of crap and can't be trusted. If Punk goes back to WWE, he's going to cause problems with guys like Dolph Ziggler, KO, Roman Reigns, Regal, Karl Anderson, Luke Gallows, AJ Styles and Rollins. Half of them are buddies with the Elite. Punk had severe trust issues. He's a sensitive maniac who can't control his emotions. Yes, Punk does have mental issues. If WWE want to bring him back, they should tell him to seek professional help first before they rehire him.
And I believe the dirtsheets twisted the stories about The Bucks not willing to hash out with Punk, when Punk is the one not willing to hash it out with the Elite. Kenny Omega even stated that he's willing to do business with Punk. If Punk really do want to do business with the Elite and Hangman, then he shouldn't kicked out the Elite's friends, especially taking shots at Page after the show. Punk is so full of shit and a hypocrite.
Endeavor would love to have CM Punk especially since they have some history with Punk a few years ago in UFC despite his two loses, they had a good working relationship.
litteraly crazy that many still think Punk is a victim somehow just like they thought he was in WWE. Dude got his own freaking Show in AEW and still caused Drama that TK had to end this.
You'd think Dylan Mckay's son wouldn't have been this pressed over using real glass, since his daddy was an actor. You'd think he'd know this was very dangerous and stupid. But maybe this was his way of trying to prove himself as more than just an actors son. Who knows. But yes CM Punk threw it all away and tarnished his legacy even more over Jungle Boy 90210. 😭 🤦🏽
To be fair, the last time The Elite tried to get in a room with Punk, Punk wound up punching one of them in the face. I can't blame them for taking a wait and see approach.
It's up to endevaor but I have a feeling many on the wwe side will try to not hire him because of bad experiences and then with the reports I wouldn't be shocked if wwe doesn't hire them but things happen. All I know is he shouldn't have as high of a asking price as with aew. Because wwe knows he doesn't have a better option than them for that kind of money and then add ontop of all the drama he also was injury prone. The man wins the title and gets injured, comes back wins the title and gets injured again, if I'm wwe i wouldn't have him near the main titles. Imagine if he beats whoever will end roman's title reign and then punk gets injured. Because whoever beats roman for the title needs a good long title reign, not as long obviously but you want to run with it as a new dominat champion and make use of it for a time. Now I'd think the best for punk would be to do indie shows like gcw so he doesn't have as much backstage drama that can go on, he has his loyal base that'd pay good money for him, and he can do a lot more with more control. But honestly I expect punk to take a break from wrestling for a while and maybe wwe hires him and he was in chris jericho's spot where they bring him in to help build others up and while they can have him challenge for a major title he's probably not even going to win the ic title if they have someone in mind because he's there to do feuds and help build people up.
Collision ended with 244 thousand viewers. You may say that’s because payback, but think of this. They started with 490 thousand meaning they lost nearly half of their viewers over the episode. The numbers matter because after Tony Kahn announced no punk, people left in droves
Now that you mention it, assaulting a co-worker in a foreign country so you can't get charged with a crime is a great way to get out of a contract.
"Who is Ace Steele?" Button
Who was Punk making Royal Rumble and Mania pitches too? Especially if he was still rehabbing from injury.
It could be like back when wcw was around and the top stars had AOL contracts not wcw, endeavor can literally do the same thing, which means realistically if he did comeback vince couldn't fire him 👀
Punk can go anywhere he wants, and they can make all the $ imaginable, but if Phil brooks doesn't admit he's the issue, ain't no one making $ because he won't be there long enough to make $
Lol i find it hilarious that CM Punk Sent a Legal Letter to the Elite because wasn't it the elite that sent Punk a Legal letter is that Somewhat ironic?
TBH the Elite are kind of asking for whatever they get at this point IMHO. AEW had to let Punk go and the Elite won whatever backstage feud they were having, but the sensible and business-like thing to do is to just let it go and move on. Continuing to take shots at Punk isn't going to lead to anything good for them or the company, especially now that he's outside the tent pissing in instead of inside the tent pissing out. It's over and they got what they wanted. Move on.
I didn't read their statement but wasn't the gist of it that if he didn't cause shitstirring for 6 months they would be more than willing to bring him back?
What shots were they taking exactly after he returned?
@@madddoggnogood1491 I'm talking about since he's been gone. (their sophomoric "victory lap" etc.) A reputable lawyer won't send a C&D to someone if there's absolutely no case.
@@ivenstorm Yes, but I'm guessing there's a sizable gap between the two camps' opinions on what that would mean.
The best thing for AEW and everyone who works for them to do is move on. If Punk decides to drag it out, there's nothing they can do about that, but there's no upside to them referencing the situation in any way at this point.
@@user-do2ev2hr7h if anything it would look bad on Punks end if he truly is trying to get rehired by WWE.
No PUNK in the WWE
Punk has no future in wrestling. The guy should be black balled from wrestling, period!
In that thumbnail he kind of looks like if Steve Lemme and Bruce Campbell had a baby
That’s unfair to Bruce Campbell
Punk should honestly just stay away from the wrestling business for now on for his own sake. It's clearly not good for his well-being and the well-being of everyone he works with. He's made enough money where he can just write comics, have guest roles in TV shows, and go to Cubs and Blackhawks games for the rest of his life.
WWE Literally has zero benefit to bringing this Nutcase back. Like they're seriously gonna take a look at his last two years in AEW, the Destruction & Drama he helped cause & say "You know what we need that guy back" 🙄 Gimme a Break
Well, that's exactly what WWE have done for decades. Also, this whole incident shows that AEW is an indiefed, roided up by a billionaire.
At the end of the day wwe is a business and if they can make money or boost ratings they will sign him. And I’m sure punk has all his merchandise numbers and ratings numbers to show them.
When I heard what The Solomonster said around 8:56-9:03, I immediately thought of Brian Last & Jim Cornette.
They would tell you otherwise in record-setting time.
We all know they don't like Uncle Dave--as they call him...
Punk will probably return to wwe for some sort of documentary talking head or a talk show or maybe even a commentator
Dark Side of the Ring Season 5
I wanna lunge at my boss and see if i can keep my job or if people blame him🤣🤣🤣and then ima punch another employee and see if i keep my job
When the footage surfaces and it shows Perry shoving Punk and then Punk front face locking Perry, and Tony jumping around screaming like a little girl, what are you gonna think then?
Here's the damn truth people need to hear. It's tony fault for not settling this when punk asked him to back when this first started, it's punk's fault fir not handling it better after tony didn't do anything, it's the elite's and hangman's faults for spreading false info to meltzer and provoking the situation, and it's jack perry's fault for not keeping his mouth shut and saying something ignorant. Overall if tony was actually a good boss this wouldn't of escalated as bad as it did.
Dave Meltzer said someone from NXT was released an then it was reported the next day that the guy who was supposedly released was wrestling house shows...😂 and people pay for his "journalism"
What if this were a giant work?
as an avid BTE viewer, that Chili's endorsement storyline had nothing to do with Pepsi man. None at all. It had more to do with the late Brodie Lee tbh coz he and the Dark Order got that endorsement LOLOLOL
Man, I miss Brodie Lee. He and the Dark Order were great and they were hilarious on BTE. For me, they were probably the best thing. Now, I've got their Chili's song with them sitting around that table in my head. If Brodie were still here, I feel like things in the locker room would be much different and we'd still have most of the Dark Order around. RIP Mr. Lee
This firing of Ace Steel was inevitable in Tony Khan's quest to look like he's doing something right when in reality, all he acts like is someone you'd like to have pity on before you use him as your own personal punching bag.
Solomonster wants to blow the elite confirmed
It’s insane how much of an elite shill he is
9:45 god why would anyone subject themselves to that. “The Elite, The The Elite” must be playing in their head repeatedly by now.
I’m not gonna sit here and claim CM Punk should be free from all blame here, because he should be blamed for some of the things he’s done, but I see a lot of people acting like Tony Khan and The Elite aren’t at fault for some of the stuff here. Majority of the drama stemmed from the “worker’s rights” promo Hangman cut on Punk last year, and like Punk said at the Brawl Out scrum, it did not get handled, and that’s why they’re at where they’re at right now. A lot of this shit could’ve been resolved long before Brawl Out even happened, but TK didn’t do it, because he wants to be friends with everyone instead of being their boss. And then The Elite refusing to meet with Punk, while I get why they wouldn’t wanna work with the guy, it still seems rather unprofessional of them. Remember, The Elite are supposed to be EVPs. They’re not just talent. If they were actually responsible EVPs, they would’ve at least tried to hear the guy out first before placing time limits on him, and constantly dodging his supposed attempts to have meetings and hash things out. Also, if they acted like professional EVPs and grown adults, they wouldn’t be taking blatant shots at him whenever he’s not around (need I remind you of Omega biting PAC, or the intentionally botched Buckshot Lariat spot?). Another thing too, TK handed everything to Punk on a silver platter, so of course that’s gonna inflate his already inflated ego. And when he’s someone who already has trust issues, of course he’s gonna blow up whenever he feels challenged.
In regards to Punk returning to WWE, I’m not holding my breath on it, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he returns. If people like Hogan, Bischoff, Steiner, Cody, etc. all could return to WWE after all their issues with them, then Punk returning isn’t out of the realm of possibility. Sure, he may have problems with some of the guys backstage, but I think people like HHH would keep Punk’s problems in check, and they’d be able to make certain programs work. Unlike TK and the children who call themselves EVPs, the authority figures in WWE actually have balls, and put business ahead of personal problems. If they could make Matt Hardy and Edge agree to work an on-screen program in 2005 despite their heated real life issues, then they could easily have someone like Kevin Owens or Roman Reigns work with Punk, regardless if there’s real life issues or not. Just sit the guys down in a room, have them hash things out, make them shake hands and agree to a working relationship. They don’t even have to be friends, but as long as they can agree to act like grown adults and professionals, that’s all that matters. And if Punk doesn’t wanna work with them or tries to start shit? Fire him. It’s that simple. WWE is in a good spot where they have plenty of other top stars to fall back on if things with Punk don’t work out. While CM Punk returning would be great business for WWE, they don’t necessarily *need* CM Punk to do great business.
Ryan Nemeth was right when he called him the softest man alive
The bucks are EVPs but can't even conduct themselves like people in that position should.
Khan needs to start switching roles for certain individuals if its legally possible
IF.....wwe gives punk a offer to be there...he'll take it..I keep mentioning about that wwe visit. 😮😮
Honestly, he should have never went to AEW in the first place. Punk is an old school traditionalist working with a lot of new age young guys who feel like they don’t need advice or direction. And a lot of the older veterans are there to collect a huge payday, work minimal dates, and not ruffle any feathers and really aren’t providing much leadership amongst the boys, just like WCW - which is now on the Network. I thought of it as a bad mix from the start and had a feeling trouble would arise at some point. I always felt like until he returned to WWE, his return back to wrestling was incomplete. When he first returned back to wrestling working for AEW originally, he said he was back in pro wrestling. But it sounds like to me he graduated pro wrestling long ago. Pro wrestling made him a household name in the Independent Circuit and gave him a huge buzz. Sports Entertainment made him a certified legend in the business and made him more money than any of us will ever dream of. That’s similar to being in college or being a college graduate and trying to return back to High School to be a full time student, it’s not going to work with two opposite mentalities clashing. But I’m open for him returning to WWE so long as he is on good behavior. At least we know WWE is better managed (way better compared to AEW anyway) and would not tolerate or let things progress to the point of no return, they would terminate Punk in a heartbeat. If Bret and Ultimate Warrior can come back after all they did and endured and if Bruno can return after a long hiatus from WWF/WWE, then no reason why Punk can’t return. WWE is all about money. If it makes dollars for them, then it’ll always make sense. And I believe time heals all wounds. Punk will even admit he was an asshole during that time and WWE firing him on his wedding day is brutal, but I do somewhat believe Vince when he said it was an accident. Not like he himself sent out the termination paper, but the powers that be beneath him (Johnny Ace, Mark Carrano, etc.) may have had influence on that termination paper being sent out. Punk should’ve communicated better than he did and WWE could have given him space and waited after the man’s honeymoon to do business. But I will say, they can actually use Punk as a main attraction for big shows here and there and not week to week like on AEW. Unlike AEW, WWE has some drawing power, the brand itself draws money. They don’t need Punk, per se. But would it be nice to have him, so long as his head is on straight? Damn skippy. As for AEW, only time will tell if things are peachy behind the scenes. Now that the trouble (Punk) is out of the way, it should be rainbows and cupcakes in the locker room now. Shouldn’t be anymore issues. If not and drama continues, then it illustrates bigger issues beyond CM Punk.
And to all those that think that WWE would not take Punk back, let me hit you with this one fact:
They made the choice to sign a rapist to their company.
Let that sink in.
Who?
It'll be hard to take him seriously if he comes crawling back to WWE. He'll lose whatever edge he had left.
I don't think you can call it crawling when they'll offer him a small fortune to do it😂😂😂
@@GrandFunkeras a guy that apparently holds grudges for a LOOOOOOONG time over even minor things, to go back to the company that FIRED you in your wedding day, it would be out of character for Punk lol
Since when did Punk have an "edge"?
Including the ‘Straight Edge’?….
Can’t wait for punk to come back too wwe counting the days he will be back at the rumble.
He doesn't deserve to be rewarded for his horrendous attitude.
They all to blame
Solomonster I kind of disagree with you on the Ace Steele firing because AEW hired him back after brawl out, what is the reason for firing him a 2nd time. To say him being fired because of his friendship with Punk isn’t a good reason to fire him
If he was brought back to be Punk's personal producer and was working exclusively with him, then it makes little sense for him to be there anymore. But for all we know, it was a mutual thing.
@@TheSolomonster Tony Khan fired Ace because he wasn't goofy or short enough. He only likes tiny little goofs who could not get a job jobbing in WWE.
C A Punk is not worth all this attention
Glad AEW finally got rid of him
If WWE wants that problem they can have it
I think it will happen, cause of money, like the mcmahons always said its what's best for business and cm punk is still great for business 🤷♂️
Real glass?
Cry me a river!
WWE would make Punk's salary back on merchandise and license sales alone. 💲💲💲
Of course, Endeavor will sign Punk if Punk wants to come back to WWE.
Why ? They don't need him at all they're making more money than ever and he's not gonna boost them
@@Kr4ShSkeL 1. Endeavor is capitalist like most companies, so they will definitely want that money. They are also making än expensive investment in WWE. They'll be looking at every star who can still sell merchandise.
2. CM Punk could boost PPV buys and international TV contracts. Endeavor might look at promoting more wrestling internationally. In many countries, there's no star that is more popular than Punk.
Punk is also a name worth more to a company like Endeavor than most wrestlers on the roster. Not only as a pro wrestler but as an mma commentator too.
3. Endeavor does not at all care about previous backstage politics and drama, we have already seen that with Endeavor.
If Endeavor wants to push 40-90$ PPVs, they are gonna need Punk. There's so many possible feuds and Punk is still the only character that is believable as an anti-authority figure.
He would also hopefully be able to shine a light on transrights, abortion rights etc. Atleast by actions like at Wembley.
They would also love if he could "shoot" on AEW live on WWE TV.
Getting Punk could also be a key to "stealing" many on the AEW roster who sides with Punk. For the small amount of money that Punk costs to sign contra how much they will make back, it's an easy decision. Even now, most wrestling channels makes more money on Punk videos than any other subjects that's why it's constant reporting.
@@systerkeno ok my bad you're just a delusionnal cm punk fangirl : "In many contries there is no star that is more popular than Punk" LMAO 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Roman Reigns doesn't exist ? John Cena ? Edge ? Brock Lesnar ? Randy Orton ? Even Seth Rollins 😂😂😂😂
And you're talking about boosting PPV but WWE stopped doing PPV 10 years ago it's time to wake up, ever heard about the WWE NETWORK and now PEACOCK ??? 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Plus you don't realize that Endeavor owns WWE but they're not making the calls, signing Punk or not is a Triple H and Nick Khan decision so inform yourself please. You clearly don't know wtf you're talking about
@Kr4ShSkeL No. Internationally, there's no bigger star than Punk. Dude, they already got the names you listed, and they still are nowhere near Punk in merch sales.
I know that. I also know that Endeavor has still to make a choice on if the special events should be PPV again. There's already meetings held on that subject. Maybe it's time you wake up and look into the business side of it, since you know nothing.
You clearly don't understand how this works. Endeavor will have the same control that they've had over UFC. Triple H, Vince, Khan etc are working there and make day to day detail decisions that Endeavor won't care about. When it comes to important decisions, Endeavor/TKO will make the decisions.
Now go fukk yourself. Nobody else will. 😘
Vince McMahon must have people telling him all the stuff and he must be laughing his ass off 😂 there is no control in AEW. In the beginning when they had like 20 people it genuinely seemed like a small close group of guys all working together to achieve a common goal. Now it’s a shambles. Punk was suspended for good reasons and paid a tonne of money to stay home doing nothing. Then he demands his fiend come back when he returns and bans Chris Daniels from the building 😅 imagine trying that shit with Vince. No one does because Vince would eat you if you tried, even in his 70’s. Tony needs to get himself an Undertaker in his locker room to stop all this bullshit bickering.
Welcome back to WWE CM Punk
No "welcome home"?
A part of me thinks that CM Punk would still like to main event WrestleMania at some point, or maybe even just have one more run in WWE in general. I mean yeah he would look like a hypocrite after the things he's said about WWE lol but it wouldn't surprise me too much if he's still had a side of him that would love to main even WrestleMania, even if he came back JUST to do that like how Batista returned just for a feud with Triple H for Mania and left again.
The only problem obviously is that he's made himself look bad with all this AEW drama with The Elite and whoever, so what if the same thing suddenly happens in WWE with him where he runs into Seth Rollins or whoever and he ends up having a confrontation with them that spawns another drama.
Batista didn't return to main event though. He just wanted his last with his friend.
Reminds me of when JDFROMNY sent me a cease and desist legal letter for mean words.
I know crazier things have happened but don't see CM Punk in WWE. Why even bother? WWE is hot and they're doing just fine without him so why take a chance on an injury prone, middle ages, B tier draw who is seen as a problem in the locker room? What is the big payoff for WWE?
Why bother? Despite everything you said, Punk still has great value. I guarantee if Punk showed up to WWE at let’s say the rumble, internet will break and fans would go insane. Gets that audience that’s stopped watching AEW because of Punks departure, and now their watching WWE to see CM Punk. B tier draw? Cman man let’s not act like he wasn’t the biggest draw in AEW because he was. AEW and WWE are fine without Punk that I agree with, but doesn’t hurt to give them a boost.
@@aaronvega3822 he has value to smaller promotions. WWE will prosper just fine without him.
@@CoffeeStain-Music WWE literally has nothing to lose by signing Punk then. Their fine with or without him so it does not hurt at all to bring him in. They can only make more money with Punk, I doubt they lose anything by bringing him in. WWE are secured no matter what
@@aaronvega3822 and nothing to gain so why pay him the ridiculous contract he's going to demand? It's not worth it.
@@CoffeeStain-Music I just explained what they could gain LMAO bro there’s literally nothing to lose for them. Plus Endeavor would probably want someone like Punk who has experience within the MMA/UFC world and is known name in that sport. So there’s your answer for “what they can gain” even tho should be obvious what they would gain if Punk came along. Your telling me a program with Rhodes or Reigns or Owens or Rollins isn’t big money? You think Punk vs any of those opponents won’t draw anything? Maybe you wouldn’t, but millions of fans would tune in. If he was a draw in AEW imagine what they can do with him in WWE and Endeavor
"John Cena mutant healing powers" oh you mean steriods?
He and Kurt both came back from neck surgery in three months. Kurt in 03, him in 08.
Punk NEEDS to go to NJPW and challenge Omega to a WrestleKingdom
Punks has become A PUNK.. not saying other guys arent a problem. but Punk gotta act professional. all tge money hes making.
Endeavor has known criminals, multiple time offenders and a former neo n@zi as their current UFC Middleweight Champion whilst using Conor McGregors bus incident as promotional material for his fight with Khabib. CM Punks issues are minor compared to that. CM Punk is coming back.
Neo?
CM Punk is toxic but it’s also Tony Kahn/AEW’s fault for enabling his behavior. Now WWE is gonna pick up the hottest free agent and if you think WWE won’t because he’s Toxic, you clearly underestimate the mind of Vince McMahon. Lol
Jack perry started it bro
NJPW's owner Naoki Sugabayashi and CEO Takami Ohbari should signed punk. 😅
I don't know that might hurt the business relationship with AEW. Imagine Will osprey vs cm punk. Okada vs punk. Tanhaishi Tama Tonga vs punk. NJPW got a bigger roster than WWE. 🥴