Solomonster Reacts To More AEW Drama With CM Punk REMOVED From Collision Reveal
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- čas přidán 20. 05. 2023
- Solomonster reacts to the official announcement of AEW Collision iwith all mentons of CM Punk being REMOVED, Ace Steel reportedly rehired by AEW and why Tony Khan is out of his mind if that's true, why things fell apart and if it can be salvaged this week, plus Punk attacks Bryan Alvarez on Instagram and why Tony Khan now finds himself in a no-win situation.
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The truth is, Tony Khan would rather be friends with everyone on the roster than to act like a boss, this would never happen under Vince.
If this was WWE, This whole thing would have been squashed in a week
Seems like the only person who has a problem with the boss is the reason all this bs continues lol
The truth is you’re getting worked. Tony’s character on his show is exactly what you think he is.
@@turtlehead2 Lol no😂
@@turtlehead2that’s not true at all Fam 😂
Let’s play a game. Let’s see how long we can go without any drama from AEW. If we can make it a whole month without any incidents, I’ll buy you all a pizza.
Think we can get through this week?
Yay. Pizza
And hardcore fans called WWE a kids show and AEW a real man’s show.
When AEW are filled with “kids”
Start ordering
Get ready to place your order then lol
I know that All Out is considered their biggest show of the year, but it really should be All In. Considering it was the first show they did and it’s what gave us AEW to begin with. All In should be AEW’s Wrestlemania, the same way TNA has Bound For Glory.
Lol at thinking TNA ever had a Starrcade like flagship event. None of the PPVs ever stood out over the rest.
I had said that many times cause just like WrestleMania was a gamble for WWE All In was a gamble for The Elite which led to the formation of AEW.
Definitely.
Not sure if they had the rights to the name until Tony bought ROH.
@@turtlehead2 that is true. But before he bought ROH I had said All Out was their big PPV and now that he bought ROH I felt All Out can now be renamed All In.
If the Ace Steel stuff is true that’s on Tony. He shouldn’t have made concessions that he’d back out on.
Ace needs to stay out and punk needs too also he's mad at the wrong people
Punk should have never asked Tony to bring him back anyway
@@madddoggnogood1491regardless if Tony agreed to bring him back then backed out the day of the announcement that’s on him
Punk needs to understand what Ace Steel did was wrong. He was not doing his job. He along with Brandon Cutler and Christopher Daniel were supposed to break up the fight, but Steel didn't do it, instead he went Double Dragon with Punk. Worst of all, you cannot lay a hand on the EVPs. Steel is working for TK, not CM Punk. So no, Ace Steel should not be brought back to AEW. TK doesn't need Steel, and surely he doesn't need Punk. Punk is too much of a headache that it's not worth keeping around, doesn't matter he's a draw or not. He seems to not care about AEW, or even helping the company.
@@nwo2cool ace steel did the least out of anybody all he did was defend his friend who was out numbered in his locker room fighting. The elite are the ones who burst in the locker room while supposedly being evps and punk buried them on the press conference. Also aew 100% needs punk.
So they hired Ace Steel back and then changed their mind at the last minute? I could see why Punk would be mad.
Let's be honest, there is no wrestling company that is without drama. AEW's problem with their drama right now is that it's more public and frequent regarding their big highs.
The real problem is Tony khan
Can't wait in 10 years for CM Punk to talk about Ace Steel the same way he talked about Colt Cobana at Brawl Out.
How do you figure
i wonder if Steel and Cabana are close still? I don't think so otherwise Punk already would have probably.
Punk is a traitor that only thinks about himself, the guy will probably be divorced and out of work in 10 years
It blows my mind that the Ace Steele situation is blowing the experienced talking heads mind. It’s loyalty on display. It’s plain and simple to comprehend.
Exactly - and Punk is fully aware that AEW needs him more than he needs AEW. It would be different if Punk actually needed the money, but he managed his finances the right way and set himself up for life. He doesn't have to put up with all this crap; he understands his value; he knows he can demand more than the average talent. And he's using his platform to show loyalty to those who helped him along the way. It's really not rocket science.
He committed a crime ffs. Any normal person would see their friend did wrong. Not Phil.
I mean, considering how Punk and Colt fell apart after being together as friends for pretty much the same time as Punk and Steel, I wouldn't trust Punk as a friend because it seems like he has loyalty until you do something that he doesn't like and then he drops you.
@@michaelfarrow5817 Exactly. Nuts how people just look past this.
@@michaelfarrow5817 If anything it gives credence to the theory that Punk's dog actually bit Kenny but they lied and said it was Ace Steele so the dog didn't get put down.
AEW Collision without Punk is a televised YT show.
The reason Punk went after Bryan is because ever since Brawl Out Bryan and Dave have done nothing but talk negatively about Punk and trying to cause problems between them. The other sites have reported on both sides.
If Collision relies so much on having CM Punk there for ratings/network - TK should be doing anything to make it work - including hiring Ace Steel. TK is messing around as usual with piss poor management. Imagine putting yourself in this situation and promising a show to a network when you haven’t resolved the backstage issues
One thing I have issue with is this idea that this wouldn't happen under Vince. Punk also held up WWE's main event scene many moons ago.
AEW & TNT are a perfect match. I mean, TNT’s tag line IS “We Know Drama”.
Only 1 person got fired after Brawl Out...the most expendable person (Ace Steel), for defending his friend when a group of guys storm into that person's dressing room. Then CM Punk displays loyalty to Steel for helping him by getting his job back. Apparently that was the deal until "certain people" found out about it and messed it up. Then AEW/Tony Khan goes back on their word to Punk and Steel and somehow it's Punk's fault that Collision press is all about Punk not being advertised, when it seems like promises were made and broken
It's insane how much people are ignoring obvious facts.
- Multiple rumors were spreaded that were proven false about CM Punk (including he's the reason Colt was no longer on TV, which is complete bullshit)
-Hangman went into business for himself talking shit about Punk in a disparaging way based in False rumors. Someone Punk at the time had praise for and thought he could trust.
-Punk having enough of it, explodes and let's it all out (no pun intended)
-The Elite and their stooges storm Punks private locker room. Ace and Punk defend themselves.
-Punk is out with injury, and yet 9+ months later, there are still non stop bullshit rumors being spread.
-Now it's being reported that Ace Steel was originally supposed to come back after losing his job for defending himself, but that fell through. This was a part of Punks original agreement to come back in the first place. So rightfully if that is the case, Punk once again gets his trust broken.
-While all this is happening, Tony Khan the owner of this company does NOTHING to fix the situation. In fact he has either enabled or directly made things worse (especially if it is true he broke his promise of Ace coming back.)
But in the tribe of AEW, Tony Khan and the Elite can do no wrong, and Dave Meltzer and Bryan Alvarez are the gospel, no matter how many examples of them being flatout wrong or caught in a lie exists.
@@dariano56 every reliable report disagrees with you.
@@michaelfarrow5817 Tony Khan himself said the rumors of Colt being off TV because of Punk was false. The owner is a primary reliable source. Way more than these "reliable reports" floating around.
The only thing I said that is speculation is whether Khan changed his mind on Steele coming back after initially agreeing on it.
@@michaelfarrow5817 ah bless you managed a whole six words to explain your point of view. an excellent contribution
Punk will be back in AEW. At the same time, it's tiresome hearing about Punk and AEW problems 😕
for real, so tired of seeing punk in headlines
Punk just isn't worth the headache IMO.
Stop paying attention to the “journalists”. Either they’re being worked or are working you.
Everyone's so tired of CM Punk but y'all will click every single click bait video about him and follow every little comment he makes 😂. Marks.
@@turtlehead2 At this point it doesn't matter if it's a work or not this shit needs to stop
Punk drama is always the best thing going in wrestling
Punk really isn’t worth it if he is willing to blow everything up for Ace Steel after all the mountain moving they’ve already done for him. Tony Khan is bending over backwards for a guy who could be injured 6 months in. It’s just not worth it
Punk is really like Hogan in WCW backstage. Only not the same Draw😂
That’s Bratty Matty Jackoff. He even no sells and politics just like Hogan too!!
Hogan was never this unprofessional
@@1nstantClassic Punk isnt a draw at all lol
@@rockajabroni5975 he easly is that can't be denied but he is no way near the huge draws obviously. Then again Wrestling was much bigger back then
As long as stupid stuff like this keeps happening, AEW will never truly be taken seriously as a promotion.
They may be getting a lot of money from Warner but toxic environments will only drive talent away from going there. Word spreads fast to other talents around the world that AEW is a place of chaos. Tony needs to stop being scared of confrontation and put his foot down and get this crap sorted for good. This is beyond embarrassing.
It wasn't toxic until Phil turned up.
@@michaelfarrow5817 I do agree that he has been a key player in the toxicity. Punk has been a walking misery for a long time and it's a shame that he can't seem to let go of all the bitterness he holds onto. I actually feel sad for him in a way cause I understand how heavy his mental baggage must be for him daily. It sucks to carry all that weight in your heart. Makes you very moody.
But responsibility also does lay at the top and TK is the one at the top. Tony needs to put on his big boy pants and start being the boss instead of everyone's buddy. He needs to make the tough decisions and make them now, not tomorrow or in 6 months.
Other promotions did way more stupid shit. Just saying
@@turtlehead2 If you’re referring to promotions like say WCW…yes they did indeed do much stupidity I agree with you on that. The politics behind the scenes spilled onto the tv and fans turned away from it. WCW went bust. It took 5 years to kill it.
AEW is not that at that point. Not yet anyways. I wouldn’t compare them to WCW at this current point.
@@ShaunTheCHB them too. But I was referring to other companies.
The “stupid stuff” is media driven. They know they can get some clicks by using that man’s name. When Punk came back, it was like people We’re expecting this to happen. Now it is and they’re sick of it. Just like Thunderosa being champion, MJF being champion, etc etc. maybe the issue is the fans wanting to know what’s happening behind the scenes. That’s why I feel that AEW is allowing those people to be worked.
If and only if CM Punk was led to believe or they insinuated to punk that when he returned Ace still would return with him to be at the shows of collision as long as the elite wasn't there then this is 100% on Tony and I don't blame Punk for doing what he did because obviously he would have felt lied to. But if Punk was told from the start that Ace would not be allowed at shows and punk felt like he would be able to negotiate that and get his way by the time the show debuted then Tony Khan needs to cut all ties with CM Punk cut him a check and release him because this is ridiculous for a grown man almost in his fifties still acting like a little child.
What will happen 1st, CM Punk's return, or a AEW: Fight Forever release date reveal?
I'm gonna go with Tony having a fentanyl overdose.
I'm not joking I mean that.
Fight Forever announced for June 29.
@@thetribalist6923 Is CM Punk in the game?
Tony Khan is getting Punk'd by his EVP's
Then the journalists will be: cm punk is not wanted by top stars. He is seen as cancer.
Then one week later: cm punk is wanted back, as he is seen as an asset.
One week later: punk is hated by most in the roster, he has no chance of coming back.
One week later: everyone wants to welcome punk back with open arms
Just when things are going well, CM Punk pulls an Antonio Brown.
Just had to use a black man as the ass of the joke?
That’s a great comparison. They’re both their own worst enemy
Well, if the reports are true and someone in AEW changed Ace's deal at the last minute, I'd be pissed off too.
Not the point lol the point is why single out one person when it's EVERYBODY MULTIPLE PEOPLE
Legal said no. Somebody should have said no long before that because it's a terrible idea. Phil is a malignant narcissist.
Punk don’t need AEW, AEW need Punk.
Wrestling dont need Punk, Punk needs wrestling
almost over 60K tickets at Wembley completely without him, with Kenny Omega front and centre on the poster too. It's clear who AEW needs and who it does not need.
@@SirSX3 lol you reckon people didn’t buy tickets to see CM at Wembley lol Punk sold an entire building on a hope he debuts. Punks name would have sold a fair amount of those uk tixs. Colisión exists for Punk
For those that keep saying “this is a work” or “it’s a work”. Stop it already! Not everything is a goddamn work. Case in point: Cody Rhodes! Remember how so many kept saying it was all a work and he would stay in AEW? Well that may be the longest work in wrestling ever.
I for one WANT it to be a work because I am straight up appalled at all the abject immaturity I'm seeing on both sides here.
I miss AEW pre-pandemic
I missed it DURING c19! Shows at Daily's every week, only a couple hundred or so fans allowed in, reminded me of the territory days.
And WWE's Thunderdome idea was pretty cool too. I didn't mind the piped in crowd noise, most fans who go to these shows just aim to do cringy hijack-y chants anyways.
@@SirJoelsuf1that period was...something else man but I agree with you
It's very clear that Tony Khan hired Ace Steel back and the evps found out somehow. Then, complained and whined about it. So, Tony told Punk Ace can still have his job, just not at TV. Punk said F U and I'm out. You can't blame him. Ha.
Prove it please
This is more bs speculation than anything.
This is very possible considering all the players involved
Man just let punk go at this point. Dude stay in the news for the wrong reasons.
The EVPs that Ace “assaulted” shouldn’t have gone into Punk’s locker room! They’re allegedly fucking executives. If they leave AEW, where are they going to go? I highly doubt WWE signs them. All they’ve done is shit on WWE for a decade. You know damn well they won’t be treated with the kid gloves they’re use to & they damn sure won’t be presented as top guys. I can see them maybe wanting Kenny but he’s already said he’s on the back 9 of his career. The Bucks don’t add anything because they tank the ratings on Dynamite & those are supposed to be their biggest fans.
Or how about punk shouldn't have called them out and played victim afterwards
Punk has been the one doing things publicly (Going off script calling Hangman a coward, the press conference). He's not blameless in this.
WWE would hire the Bucks. Kevin Owens talked a lot of shit about Cena before getting signed. But I agree, they would just be another tag team.
@@DR.64A9In fairness Hangman went off on Punk first publicly.
Maybe those EVPs shouldn't have barged into Punks Dressing room. Maybe they should have acted like EVPs and scheduled a meeting to speak to him.
The Elite are the problem, not Punk. They are a stable of man-babies always crying in Tony Khlown's ear. Even when Punk is not on the same show they got to mess with him. The adult Punk doesn't have any time for any of their BS and can just walk.
Impact is playing the long game. They invited Punk to a taping and tried to hire Ace Steel. By the end of this year I wouldn't be surprised if Punk signs with Impact.
This whole thing has made the whole company look so fuckint bush league. Could you imagine a WWE talent sitting next to Vince, HHH, Nick Khan and carrying on the way punk did at All Out?
And then trying to bring the same guy back and launching a new show for him?
no, i cant imagine, because vince would fire hangman for going off script or punishing him and the cm punk media scrum would never happen
@@carlms9753 vince would Bury him but not fire him. Their was way worse things wrestler did that vince allowed and hangman still has rep as champ. Cm punk gave a public receipt without telling management when hangman wasn't part of the program. That is even worse as goes against kafabe and was cowardly.
Cm punk was even with a cowardly recipt but he still had things to say at brawl out. He talked about stuff not relating to hangman. He brought cabana just seeing a journalist. That grip bomb would have happened anyway as he was on edge (injury might play a part). Punk is an egomaniac and hold grudges forever. So if there is anyone who needs to be fired it's punk. He crossed the line, brought private issue public in a toxic way, started fight and now having a show hostage over an expendable guy who was the most violent during all this.
No AEW needs 12 big events. It encourages better storyline progession every show throughout the month leading up to the PPV, instead of matches thrown together for the tv shows
Ugh, another person successfully brainwashed by 20 years of no competition.
I know there are a lot of people that are hyperbolizing this, but I see this as TK's trial by fire. Growing pains, if you will. Having said that, if this drama drags on any further, AEW should buy out the rest of CM Punk's contract and let him walk.
CM Punk should be grateful that he's getting another chance. If this story about him refusing to come back if Ace Steel doesn't come back with him is true, he has to be one of the most delusional people in wrestling history. And that's saying a lot. The guy literally bit someone. As a 49 year old.
Every time I hear more about this it pisses me off more how hangman got off free when he started all this crap
Don't tell me TK have Ace Steel working secretly with AEW, similar to Dixie Carter secretly had Vince Russo working as an consultant after 2012. To be honest, AEW doesn't need Ace Steel. It's not like he's working on-screen. He's replacable. When he attacked the EVP's, that clearly showed he's trouble with a bad attitude. He wasn't doing his job right. He was supposed to try to break up the fight, not going Double Dragon with Punk. And no, you cannot lay a finger on the EVP's. So yes, Steel deserved to be terminated. TK cannot bring that guy back. That'll leave a bad message.
If Jericho can get Luther on TV, then there is no reason Ace can't work as an agent
did Luther bite a top star and threw a steel chair at another?
He almost killed a top star in the ring. His match with JeriCrashPad was so sloppy and dangerous, he fell off the ring just by moving, and he almost broke JeriCrashPads Air mattress back landing on it with a knee. Luther has no business in a ring at his age and in that horrible of shape.
If there’s any truth to Punk demanding Ace Steele to return, then Punk is dumb. Why is this a hill to die on? I know that he’s his friend and all, but they are not a tag team or a duo act. Punk shouldn’t go out of his way making demands like this and if TK is pushing against this, then good on him.
It’s quite obvious that Punk is trying to twist TK’s arm in negotiations. Because every time we expect some sort of Punk announcement, it falls through. He already made bank with his AEW deal and he’s an active wrestler, unlike Steele who is a producer and retired. It’s frustrating to hear stuff like this because everything Punk has stood for since his return is bull-crap.
Punk is probably jaded by a-lot of firings and using this opportunity to get some one rehired
Soooo...Kenny vs AJ at WrestleMania next year yeah?
Wouldn't mind seeing that.
WWE would tone down the match
I had a whole rant typed out, but I erased it. Mostly because the whole thing can be summed up with: Jesus Christ, I am so over CM Punk.
Meltzer and Alvarez may not be the only ones who reported on Brawl Out, but they are the ones who continued to spread rumors about him and Colt Cabana, continued to call him a toxic influence, even a few weeks ago when Meltzer claimed his apology and Dax's plea for cooler heads to prevail was a ploy to somehow oust Omega and the Bucks from the company. Reporting on figures, actual news, contacts etc is one thing. But for months they've consistently and constantly put out bs stories on their website and message board about how no one likes Punk, Punk was served legal papers, no one wants to work with Punk. Reporting facts, figures, rumors on storylines and confirmed backstage goings-on is one thing. Posting bullshit stories attacking someones character is another
If I were ace steel I would not put my friend CM Punk in the position to compromise his position in the company. I would take responsibility for what I did and I would move on if I were him. The problem with CM Punk is that this guy is addicted to anger and conflict we've seen this exact scenario play out over years and years. I don't want to see him ruin aew because this is the first signs at this guy is okay with ruining shows just because he's not feeling it that day. Eddie was right, out of all of the politicers and prima donnas he's the biggest one of all. No one should ever believe anything he says because he'll say things in the moment and then immediately renege on all of it. He has the worst kind of anger the kind where he burns everything around him and he doesn't care who gets torched along the way only to apologize later let some time pass and do it again. He is not the voice of the people, he hates the fans most of the time. This guy has worked so hard to get famous just to tell people that he's not famous then gets mad when people don't treat him like he's famous. I was a punk fan but I don't want to give my fandom to someone who doesn't appreciate me. Long time listener, first time commenter.
15:33 got me laughing in tears. Thing is that is damn true.
Solo, do you think the United Center will sell out or come close assuming Punk is a guarantee or will it struggle similar to all the other Collision shows that went on sale so far?
What kind of businessman is Tony Khan? I've defended him in this past but this is just ridiculous. I would NEVER rehire a person who verbally trashed my business (in front of me, no less) and then pick a fight with my EVPs. Let alone his rabies having friend going around biting people. Phil and Ace would've been forbidden from company and if FTR had a problem with that, they could join him. Phil is tearing his company apart and all he do is make announcements. I don't like Cornette but his comments of Tony being a money mark are feeling awfully true. Helwani and Paul must be laughing their assess off, or at least when Vince lets Paul out of cage for walkies.
Walkies 😂
Paul? Phil? What is wrong with you marks taking their real names?
@@mma9869 What's with you going after someone for something so trivial? 🙄
It hurts me to say this bit CM Punk is a child in a man's body. If this had happened under Vince McMahon's watch, he would have nuked the whole thing, and there would be no one left.
I just can't wait for the Dark Side of the Ring episode on that infamous AEW scrum day
I’m sorry, but why is this getting laid at Punk’s feet? Agreements were made, deals were done, and Tony Kahn went back on his word to bring back Ace Steel. It was all a done deal, and the person that calls all of the shots pulled the plug on that deal. This was agreed to, then someone,a pair of someone’s or maybe a trio of someone’s likely under 5”11 and from Rancho Cucamonga or Winnipeg got in Tony’s ear and once again F’d all of this up. Tony Khan is getting made to look a fool, but it’s self inflicted through the influence of people not named CM Punk.
Under 5’11”??
You give the MasseyGill bunch too much credit. The Hardly Boys are 4’9” tops.
At this point is punk even worth it.
I'm thinking no Ace The Bite Steal
what an awful idea to put a show on a saturday night! Noone will watch it, noone will attend it!
It’s like Tony Khan wants to be a control freak in not letting anyone else in on booking/management but desperate to be best mates with all the wrestlers to the point he tries to keep them all happy and not rock the boat with them which is weak management, reality is this all started because Tony Khan was too weak to shut CM Punk down at All Out and it’s still continuing for the exact same reason.
Ive literally gotten to the point where i have no idea whats going on. If this is a work, its the greatest of all time.
I'm done with Punk. To the point where I won'won't watch his segments if or when they even come on. He's the common denominator.
Alvarez is right but at the end of the day he's still a dull, biased, talentless hack. Meltzers lost it and Bryan never had it. I imagine steel bit Kenny because he was heavily outnumbered and that's what anyone would do in a street fight in that same situation. They're lucky they didn't get eye gouged. Assaulted or self defence? AEW will never reach it's potential if tony keeps letting the elite dictate things.
I died from 22:16 onward😂😂😂😂 also intrigued
Punk will be Live this Wednesday, don't be fooled they are saving the reveal for a BIG ratings pop
What's considered a "BIG" rating ... ?
No he not
"It's a werk, dewd!"
Dude, do you honestly believe the plan was to self-sabotage themselves this badly?
If this is a work, it's the dumbest work of all time. It makes it seem like AEW can't close the deal.
@@ImportAustralia he has 9 shoulders and climbs rovers able to withstand the weight of a pine sofa
Genius title on the thumbnail.
I like the nitro theme. I rather them take shit like logos or a stage over a copy and paste or worse off story. I AM HIGHLY AGAINST A BRAND SPLIT JUST BE CREATIVE HOW YOU KEEP CERTAIN PEOPLE AWAY.
Why is it the drama always overlaps the actual shows??? I’m burnt to a crisp trying to keep up with AEW decisions.
Let's not forget colt cobanna and cm punk were friends since the ring of honor days with friends like punk who needs enemies watch your back ace Steel say what you like about vince and we all have but this shit would never fly whens his In charge 😂😂
They should just scrap all storylines, matches and angles they have going on and just televise all of the backstage drama instead. AEW would do a couple million in the ratings every week. In fact, just put all this on that All Access show and it would do gangbuster numbers.
The Fall Out from Brawl Out at All Out is just Far Out.
All of these issues, and this drama is due to Tony Khan being garbage at keeping wrestlers in line. He doesn't punish bad actors, he doesn't try to sort issues for business, and he just is everybody's friend. The Bucks should have been punished properly way back when, Brandon Cutler should have been fired long ago for stirring the pot frequently, Andrade should have been suspended with no pay, and on and on and on. Countless issues in this company with countless wrestlers who he can't be bothered to be a boss with, just consistently being everybody's friend even if it's bad for business. CM Punk should react better for sure, but at the same time Tony should be a better fucking boss and head of a wrestling promotion. He isn't though, he is a kid with a bunch of toys. Some of those toys are great and have great ideas, others are completely full of themselves and have their own ideas and agendas. He is letting the asylum be run by the toys and that gives you some amazing stuff, and some flat out terrible trash. It is what it is, but I one hundred percent would rather have an AEW with CM Punk and Ace Steele, than one with the Buckaroos who only care about themselves and their closest basic level friends who couldn't lace up MJF's, Darby, or any of the good talents in that companies boots.
All this drama over a mid wrestler, that can cut a good promo here and there
So when Punk supposedly asked for the return of Ace Steel, who else was in the room or on the call? If it was just Punk and Tony, who leaked it? These are the questions i ask myself when i try to believe in this Punk vs Elite stuff. If they were shitting on him to the media and he addressed it, why are things still leaking? Stuff sounding like 1 on 1 conversations? Could it be made up?
Now that CM Punk looking like he’s out, it’s time for CP Munk to make a return!
As far as we know WB is not paying for this new show and AEW has to produce it out of their own budget. Of course they will pick up the deal WB wants a return on investment. Should be interesting this time next year we will have a better idea. This looks like a move fir WB to get a return on investment
If Punk had never come to AEW (he hasn’t really lifted the promotion), AEW would be in a much better place.
CM punk is surrounded with drama lol.
Jesus Christ this is embarrassing.
LMAO the ending bit about AEW Fight Forever.
Sad but true though.
When Tony Khan starts acting like a boss instead of a feckless buddy, including setting expectations and consequences for certain behaviors, this drama will stop. That place is currently an out of control daycare center with a ton of immaturity at the top. (Kahn, Elite/VP's)
I find it odd that the hardcore AEW/Elite fans like to blame and berate Punk, who deserves his fair share at times, yet make excuses for, or completely ignore, the behavior and complete lack of maturity of the Elite guys and their friends. It's disingenuous and hypocritical.
Then the Punk fans, and I am one, think he does no wrong, which is ridiculous. The guy should pick his words and spots better.
Alvarez and Meltzer really shouldnt have credibility left. They are overtly pro-AEW despite what goes on, and they're coverage has a slant that isn't balanced. It's all gotten ridiculous.
Daddy is here 🎉
Okay, everyone keeps blaming Punk? What about the root of the problem? Tony Khan? Being one of the worse owners of any organizations. The Young bucks don't want the top guy in the company back? Tough shit, Tony should get rid of them. Don't matter if they are EVPs. They are costing Tony millions and potentially rights deals etc... Tony would rather hide and keep those guys away from Punk on their own show instead of firing them. They contribute nothing anyways.
I would be content if Phil Brooks just walked away from the industry forever, never to be seen again at this point.
Said it two years ago (yall can even look on former Solo reviews etc of stuff back then) and I'll say it now: Brooks was good for ONE appearance and MAYBE a VERY short-term program with MJF or a renewed rivalry with Jericho. That was IT.
The fact that we are STILL talking about him is GOD DAMN STUPID.
God, if I never hear CM Punk's name again, it'll be too soon at this point.
Until TK grows a set…He would never be taken serious as a promoter.
I dunno what the hell Alvarez did to piss in Punk's wheaties to get the man to put him on blast all the goddam time when all Bryan does is just comment on what other people have reported.
Collision will just be another Rampage 2.0 if Punk is not involved. What a waste
AEW has sunday PPVs.
OLD SCHOOL!
Like WCW and WWF.
I'm all in for scrumptious, delicious, juicy CM Punk A5 Wagyu drama. Honestly, the hilarity between CM Punk and AEW is infinitely better than any goddamn AEW show lmao
I'm begging, please keep on being an imbecile Lockport Phil. Please please please don't ever stop fucking over Tony 🤣🤣
If they didn't say anything to Leva Bates and her contract ran out, that's pretty low. She did a lot of backstage stuff and was wasted potential as a wrestler who was there from Day 1.
Leva was nothing special as a wrestler believe me I watched AEW Dark on a daily basis...She's just as bad as Nakazawa and Luther
As bad as Luther?? Uncle Fester?? I don’t know about that. That guy was worse than Jelly Nutella and the Bank Addicted Drug Robber combined. He got so blown up, he botched an eye rake.
All the Tony Khan response options are just a series of ellipsis
If it's true then they need to bring them back because like it or not we need Punk for the ratings
Who’s we ?
dam so ace steel is whats keeping punk from coming back? i say the hell with him and i really want punk back, but if something like this is causing more drama, tony needs to step up and decide what to do. The collision debut from the united center now being ruined? i hope not
Ace Steel is like CM Punk's Brutus "the Barber" Beefcake. Yeah the Bootyman who is good buddy with Hulk Hogan, and tagged along with him down the road.
How is that bullshit tho? If Ace was hired months ago with no one knowing then wen punk is about to come back and TK says yes come back no problem but no Ace doesn’t that go back to TK “bosses” the Elite is in charge and punk would just be thrown under the bus any chance they got? Come on this is a joke punk is ur biggest star do what he wants just like Vince did for hulk and Austin and Cena you have to some times know who’s who and what’s what
Saturdays are gonna be a mother f**** for collision because there’s College football,UFC ppv event or fight night (those free tv fights) WWE premium live events and people go out and do things on Saturday nights well except for me, I’m a 31 year old father with a 2 year old at home.
I know negative news gets more views, but that's because it draws in both fans and haters. I look forward to the Wembley show. AEW getting a two hour show on Saturday is a good sign as far as how Discovery views them. I hope we get to see Live action on Saturdays like Wednesdays. Also have the big names there, but grow a new group of young guys who can main event like the current four pillars.
As far as Punk goes, let it happen or not. I like Punk as a performer, but AEW was built before Punk got there. He helped sell out a few Chicago gigs, but the ratings didn't go through the roof. It's just the way things are. WWE is much bigger, but even they don't get the ratings that were considered low during even ten years ago.
man, I love AEW, AEW is the best in all of wrestling since day one when AEW debuted! this whole CM Punk stuff. I cannot stand WWE for many years for what they done. I have not watched a full episode or ppv of wwe since early 2010s when CM Punk was on there. As much as I hate to say this, WWE was so right on when they said, AEW can have all that headache CM Punk will bring them. I am sad, But angry that they cannot fix this situation. CM Punk would be awesome in AEW if they had right creative, and work out together, and if there is issues, I personally would sit them in my office, and talk it out, yell, all that. But in the end, I guarantee you I would fix it in one night and if this happens again, I would cut them and never allow them back in AEW, that is how I would handle things backstage. If you want to make AEW great and still be the best in the world and want to wrestle for real wrestling fans, more than welcome to come in and do it. But if you bring drama, you are out! this all needs to stop. I love wrestling, been watching wrestling since I was little boy in the 80s. I been through the best of wrestling in the 90s monday night wars, to attitude era. etc etc. We wrestling fans need to speak up and if the wrestlers cant handle criticism, they need to grow some balls and take it and listen to the fans and bosses, got to take it and learn, be humble!!!! not uptight about everything. same with the women, stop crying and accept criticism when it happens, be humble!!! I love wrestling but this is giving me a headache too! I cannot wait to see AEW in London, Wembley Stadium. Congrats to AEW pretty much selling out the whole building.
lol
aew sucks
no ring psychology,gymnastics and lack of respect for wrestling and wrestling history
Add CM Punk to the list of people who don't actually understand what the term parasocial relationship means
I hope this works out long enough for me to get another Joe feud...maybe Darby.
My brother said cm punk is a bag fumbler
They're probably saving him for Wembly
AEW will bury itself with hours of programming and PPVs they cannot book properly.
Tony needs to walk away from other things, probably Fulham.
CM Punk is the Antonio Brown of wrestling
I think this is more of a power play angle then a loyalty angle, and specifically a power play by the EVPS to say "Hey look, we are bosses and your buddy isn't back." -- and I don't think Punk is cool with feeling like they "got one over on him". Right or wrong...? I dunno, but I think that's playing into this.