Weird Alfa Romeo GTV6 - Casey's 80s Garage is Back!
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- Casey's 80s Garage is back! After looking for 25 years, Casey finally found and was able to buy a 1986 Alfa Romeo GTV6. Come back to find out if the famous Busso V6 engine sounds as good as it is famed for. Will the Alfa Romeo be a good car or will it fizz like a Alka Seltzer tablet in the rain?
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An '86 GTV-6 was my first car, and I still have it. My pops and I have twin turbocharged it, not a Callaway kit, but a fully custom system. It makes 330 or so at the wheels and sounds pretty crazy. We love Alfas and have been working with them for years!
Sounds like Casey needs to road trip to take a look.
Good for you! You kept the HP very low, which is probably a good idea. I don't remember Reeves selling a kit, only the completed cars that could be bought new at the Alfa dealer. But, just like the 928s he did, they were pretty primitive by modern standards.
Congrats 🍀✨
@@Metal-Possum You have never owned one have you??
I'd love to see details 😁😂
Sells cars for room then immediately buys more cars.
*views*
You tube needs constant new quick to finish stuff.
Welcome to CZcams car channels.
Didnt realize how rare these were. My first job out of high school was for the state as a marine mechanic and one of these sat on the back of our storage lot. The guys there had no info or keys to it. I used to go out there and just oogle the car because it was so cool looking. Was in great shape other than faded paint. It was also red with black interior. Great find! Nice car!
Roughly 5,000 imported to the US. So many are gone to poor treatment and rust. Who knows how many are left they only recently started to increase a lot in value.
@@peterorigenes4358 4552 to be exact! :) And quite a few returned to the old continent. I also have one US-spec GTV6 which was brought back to Europe in the early 90s.
What's up people?! What would you do to the GTV6 and the potential fun things to come with it?
Whatever you do, if you ever end up needing to get rid of any parts I’d be happy to get them for my 79 alfetta! Haha also if you need some obscure parts I have a large collection of random bits for the alfettas!
I wish I could pick up a v6 version as they say it’s the best sounding one, but I’m happy with the handling of my 4cyl, very balanced especially when youre pushing the tires limits (seems that’s the first limiting factor) but the suspension on these cars are incredible once setup correctly! (Check out alfabb for more info on setups)
Get clarkson on the phone and ask him questions about his experiences with his gtv6? (At least i think thats the one he bought. Also red)
Love the new project. Might I suggest taking a look at the new rotiform lines of wheels as they have a couple fresh takes on some vintage looks. Might find something very similar to the stock wineglass but with proper sizing and offset.
I really like the wheels, I'd leave them be. Get the engine bay dry ice cleaned and enjoy.
Twin turbo it! It was one of the quickest things on the road, back in the day. With some modern management tweeks, good intercooler and routing, it would be a monster!
WEDGETASTIC there Casey!
I've had my 1982 GTV6 for over 30 years now. It's out of paint, dash being recovered, and have some transmission issues to resolve, but I'll get there.
Yours looks fully stock so I would only do mods that either don't really change the car much or that it's hard to tell. Don't over do it as that will compromise the car too much and being such an older car it simply isn't going to be all that fast compared to anything modern. So keep the modifications reigned in.
First off, after a guibo inspection and replace as necessary, change out all the suspension bushings to polyurethane. Then set the camber to about 1 degree negative and you will find the turn-in and overall handling to be improved significantly.
Tires & wheels; 16 inchers look fantastic although tire selection is slowly dwindling. I'd still go 16" and track down light weight wheels with good high performance tires. A 205/50-16 is all you need. With the modest power of the GTV6 staying with slender tires means you get fantastically fun in the corners slip angles at quite low speeds. The balance of these cars is so incredibly good one can drift all day long and not put a wheel out of place. That's one secret to these old Alfas, huge fun at modest speeds.
Maybe go with thicker sway bars front and rear. Good enough. Stop there. No more needs to be done with the suspension. (Even the original shocks, if in good shape are great for todays roads.)
Engine: It's only 2.5L. Sure one can make a few improvements, an 8% improvement of a small number is still a small number. If you really want to go more, I recommend skipping the later 4-cam version of the Busso as that's just too much work (ask me how I know) and too much modifications needed. But! Source a 3.0L SOHC version, install S-pistons and S-cams in a rebuild, clean up the ports, as well as port match to the intake runners, and swap that in. That's all the power this car really needs and it will look the same as before and everything fits.
Exhaust: There are headers available. Follow the headers with a relatively low restriction exhaust. Watch out for ground clearance! There isn't much with these cars so don't make it worse! Exit the exhaust to the far left rear corner of the car. If you don't the exhaust fumes will find their way into the cabin when the sun roof is open.
Transmission: Old Alfas are famous for really poor 2nd gear synchros. Some owners will have the gears lightened by machining groves and holes into the gears to reduce their inertia. You could consider that, or simply replace the synchros and don't expect to shift like an old manual F-1 car. Sometimes being realistic is the best course of action. Replace all the shift linkage joints with new. That will help the lever in a buck of rocks feel of selecting gears with this car.
Bumpers: Suck in those ugly-a** 5-mph bumpers close to the bodywork. It will help the looks immensely.
Casey, no need to go much further or you'll change the character of the car too much. The mods I've listed will provide huge fun at relatively low cost and enable your GTV6 to shine like few 1980's cars can achieve. I can't understate how much of a gas these cars are to drive when the road gets narrow and twisty.
Good luck!
All sensible, but my suggestion is go for period correct 15" rims - (such as speedline pepperpots or Ronals) - the bigger tyre wall is actually better suited to the dynamics of the car. Plus I think bigger rims with much lower profile tyres look completely wrong on the GTV6. To counter the smaller rims you also have to drop the ride height (especially from the stupid US "factory" settings from the era) - pretty simple with torsion bar suspension. You can get fantastic stance on these without doing much at all. But Koni "yellow" adjustable shocks on the rear are a pretty standard upgrade (if not already fitted).
Some addition to the above mentioned mods. 16" rims are the maximum, but probably You should stuck with the original 15" size (but not this '86 MY originally for Alfa 33 and Milano designed type) but a Ronal A1 phone dial type or the old Rial originally fitted on the Grand Prix edition for the German market. These are 7" wide so they can accomodate wider tyres. On the GP version they were fitted with Fulda Y2000 225/50 R15. If you are thinking of going to the 16" field one of the best looking option is the Speedline designed for S.Z. (7" and 8" wide) which was later adopted for the Milano and the 164 Super in width of 6.5".
For the suspension a great upgrade the yellow Konis on all 4 corners. Be aware the version for the front as from '85 they have changed slightly the suspension with the arrival of the Milano so it differs from the early models.
As You have an '86 car most probably you've got the upgraded isostatic gearbox-linkage which have addressed some of the poor shifting problems of the original Alfetta design even though did not sort out completly. So joints must be supervised and restored as needed to get a stiff and exact linkage. If the syncros are burnt then your best option to get a molybdenium plasma coated one. You can take them to a local shop to do the job or order from Germany (www.okp.de/xtc2/GTV-6/15-Gearbox/Gearshift/Synchronizing-ring-105-115-116-75-original-Goetze::20050.html). When you are there, take a closer look to the synchro sleeves as well. The main problem with a poorly driven GTV when the teeth lost their sharp tips and get rounded. This ruins the whole shift process, when it's well maintained You can shift as quick as any manual transmission car. I usually was able to do 0.3-0.4s shifts (czcams.com/video/0nW6x3tb_cI/video.html). Cheap option to use the one from the 5th gear and put it into the position of the 2nd.
If you go for the engine tuning there are several options. 1. Using the 2.5 litre crankshaft but getting the 93 mm pistons and liners of the 3-litre engine. If you take this course you are good for a 7500 rpm 190hp engine what the German tuner Gleich has reached and offered through the official dealer network. Option 2 swap in a 3-litre engine from a Milano. It's a direct fit, no hassle. Later (or by the time) you can get 100.5 mm liners and pistons which gets you to 3.5 litre of engine capacity and with the 12-valve engine You are good for a modest 260-270 hp. The hardest way - as Snarge22 said - the quad-cam engine swap but then you can get 420+ hp from a 3.7 litre configuration, but this type of upgrade set you back the double of your car's purchase price. :)
You can get the much lighter European bumpers or there are a Zender-kit for the car wich incorporates the bumper with the splitter.
@@johnphaceas7434 Exactly!
"That's a really loud cricket!" LOL!!!!
sick! you gotta get all the louvers for that car, rear and sides
Soooo cooool. My favorite so far in Casey's collection!
The reason why they're so hard to find is because most of them turned into piles of rust three decades ago. Here in Europe we have quite a few jokes about '80s Alfa's/Lancia in the likings of *You can see the rust holes grow bigger while you're watching*😆
But seriously, at the start of the video i was thinking "an Alfa without rust, it must've cost a fortune". It really looks great, congrats.
Hey Casey ! Thanks for sharing all your car adventures ! Really nice content
Thank you!
Very cool. A few months back I bought a 77 GTV 2000. It is in need of a little work, but that 2.0 I4 is great. Alfettas are known to not need throttle input at startup with factory FI.
When I was stationed in Europe back in the 80's those
Alfas were all over the place.
Congratulations on buying your first Alfa. I've always wanted a GTV6 myself as a fun weekend car, so quite envious of you. The Busso is a fantastic engine that sounds amazing with a performance exhaust. I'm not sure but I think Akropovic (spelling may be wrong) make a great set-up. Re: the wheels, I've seen a few GTV6 on up to 17inch I think, but anything over that just doesn't quite look right in my view (each to their own). You can also get some nice Alfa 'race' decals that can make it more interesting. I'm sure there are plenty of Alfa enthusiasts in the US who would be happy to offer their thoughts. Best wishes from NZ. 🍀❤️
Definitely a unique car! Honestly that color combo, red, with the round lights, inner yellows…perfect!! My dads boss had a Alfa Spider that I used to drool over as a kid, I remember the shifter coming out of the dash…very cool car. Love it dude!!
Cool! Now you own 2 of my favorites from the 80´s. GTV6 and 944. I have both myself as well. :)
Making me miss my Milano 😭. I think it was David E Davis who said "Everyone should buy an Alfa once in their life to realize the depth of bad decisions they are capable of making."
Welcome to the club!
Whenever Casey Punch drops the new videos I roll up the Number and get all schmoked up
Looks solid. Best sounding engine/exhaust note for sure.
Making me miss my old Alfa, Casey. Just like your dad’s old car, mine was a ‘72 GTV 2000. It was years ahead of it’s time; DOHC aluminum engine, mechanical fuel injection and a 5-speed. I can only imagine how quirky the GTV6’s are.
Yes! I had a 1991 Alfa 164 Turbo when I was station in Vicenza, Italy in the mid 2000's. The thing was ten tons of fun... Pininfarina badge on the fenders and all!
I had friends in the 80s that had a GTV6, loved the body style then, still love it. Always wanted one, never had a chance though.....
Casey's on that special 80s coffee today and I'm all for it
Oh yeah and also that amazing Octopussy (I know it sounds bad) car chase where Bond steals a GTV6 and absolutely thrashes it before he dresses up as a clown makes this a brief but definitely a Bond car, nice to see you mentioned it.
Looks like a cutprice Espada to me, that same kind of weirdness that that had. Or a Scirocco in a suit.
That’s one memorable scene, that GTV6 sliding around while being chased by those E28s!
Scirocco designed later by same guy, body style first penned in late 1960s by Guigario
The Scirocco is more likely a match to the Alfasud Sprint as the Golf the partner of the Alfasud. Both the layout and the size.
And yes, there are many similarties between the Espada and the GTV6.
Awesome! Headed down to RADwood Chicago this weekend, genius garage should come up! Haha
I had an Alfetta GT (the 4 cylinder) and loved it. I drove a GTV6 once and was in love. Currently I have a red Giulia. Some suggestions: check for rust, drop the ride height, and rip off those hideous bumpers. Add uprated suspension and wheels and you will have a hero!
have had two GTV6's and are friggin; awesome. Needs to have individual car quirks worked out but then it was quite reliable and a daily driver back in the 80's and 90's. then got another recently and in process of sorting.
Nice one Casey , make it mint , leaving it standard apart from the exhaust and enjoy .
👍😁🤙
Ithese are great cars to modify, without destroying their character
My friend had one of these he bought new, and had it till the day he died, about 8 years ago. Obviously he loved it.
My dad had a silver '82. We had a lot of fun with it... When it ran. Easy to drive fast (Except for the terrible shifter) with good balance, decent power, and sweet sweet sounds. It was also surprisingly roomy and comfortable for a RWD car that's 10 inches shorter than today's Civic Hatchback. THE aftermarket wheels for those are the Gotti's they come in "period cool" gold / silver or silver.
One of the world's best ever V6 engines. Bravo!
Nice! Congratulations.
Wow, those are still going up. I missed out 2x since 2014 when I bought my Alfa Spider. I wasn't ready to sell the spider OR my TR6, so had to pass. GTV6's are very cool, though.
Back in the late 80's early 90's when my dad and I where involved with ice racing there was a team from the Twin Cities are that raced one of these. The running joke was they tuned the exhaust with a decibel meter. It really screamed due to equal length headers and straight pipes. One year at the race in my home town it broke and dad let them work on it in our garage (a tuck under that's under the bedrooms). When they got it put back together at about 3am they fired it up to make sure it ran. Needless to say that was the last time anyone got to work on race cars at our house.
I bought a new one in 1981 in Belgium. Great, fast, wonderfully oversteered and great for power slides. Once I was following a buddy of mine in a Ferrari 328 on some fast twisty back roads but he was not able to lose me. Either the driver or the car, you decide.
I had an Alfa GTV 2.00, a lovely car. The biggest problem with it was rust but England does have a reputation for rain and winter salted roads.
Great vid man awesome car would love one prices have gone crazy here in Australia
Welcome to the Alfisti club!
That car's harder to find sister car, the Milano, is my first car and she's been a fantastic daily to drive and to work on.
My story is I wanted one so badly I flew out to Florida from Texas to get it and drove her all the way back without a hitch. These are really solid cars if you can keep up with the maintenance.
Most everything on these cars is pretty simple and self explanatory.
As far as modding goes, there's not much you can do mechanically. The most efficient way to get more power is to swap a 3.0 from a Milano Verde. Having said that, there are a couple of things you can do. Biggest one is headers and downpipe with cats. You can squeeze close to 10hp extra out of the car with just that. You can do cam shafts as well for a little bit more in the upper rev range. Outside of that, you'd really have to dump a ton of money and time into it to get more power. If it were me, I'd do the cams and exhaust, throw on a period body kit and call it a day.
Few things to watch out for:
Timing belt tensioner. This can be an Achilles heel for the car so I'd definitely check it out when You do belts. If you have a hydraulic tensioner get a mechanical one asap. Centerline Alfa sells the staybelt one. It's pricy but by far the best option.
When you do a belt job, I'd recommend replacing the water pump and thermostat as well. You'll get different stories from different people, but I've seen generally that's what you should stick to. Better safe than sorry imo. Belts and all that should be every 30,000 or 3 years.
Check and replace fuel lines as needed. Can be a real fire hazard on these.
Don't know if the gtv6 is the same, but in the Milano, the hole that sucks air in for the a/c system is completely unguarded. No cabin filter, no wiring or anything. It's under the plastic cowling where the washer jets are. If leaves get in and happen to find their way to the back of the a/c switches. I'd you turn it on. Fire ensues. A fair few Milanos have been lost that way. It's a big pain, but the only way to get to that duct is dash removal. Once there, you fabricate a cover with chicken wire it something similar.
The head bolts need to be periodically retorqued. If you ever suspect leaking head gaskets, it may be as simple as retorquing them.
I could go on and on but I think that covered about the just of it.
And NEVER let the rear brake pads go too long... Because inboard disc brakes!
As You have to adjust the valve clearance every 12T miles, there's not a big deal to check the head bolts at the same time.
Casey, the Alfa Romeo V6 Engine High-Performance Manual
Book by Jim Kartalamakis offers the most comprehensive compilation of tested upgrades for this motor. It offers instructions for different levels of tune and further chassis upgrades. It is definitely worth the investement. These engines are great in stock form, I can personally say that. If you want over 220BHP, the bosch fuel injection will prove to be the biggest hinderance. There are ITB kits available from the UK for about the black market price of a kidney, but a custom downdraught carburetor setup wouldn't be too hard to get made, plus, induction noise. Headers, Cams, valves and most engine components/rebuild kits are available mainly in the UK and Germany (EB Spares in the UK are quite good), but high performance pistons and liners are in short supply, at least in my experience. If you want to get the most HP/dollar and have the right people around you, a custom turbo/supercharger kit and fuel management setup may be the way to go. This also addresses the lack of high comp pistons available, you can use the stock pistons and rods on moderate boost. Happy to answer any questions. The aftermarket is absolutely incomparable to 105 series alfas in my experience. If you want a real Alfa hotrod, they are the way to go.
A good gtv6 will dust a 105 . 3L transplant, Stock rods and S pistons, S cams or Better, headers and cat delete, megasquirt, stock head is 230-240 hp. Use the rockers from a 164. Stock valves. Lighten clutch pressure plate and gears.
Not just watching from Europe - Australia too. Plenty of GTVs and GTV6s (comparatively) down here, including my 2.0L GTV. That is a fine example you've found there.
Very Nice pick up my father has a Gtv6 maratona would recommend the SZ wheels look great on the car!
My grandpa had one of these, white with tan interior. It was just sitting in his garage when I was a kid throughout the 90's. It wasn't running or driving, no idea what was wrong with it. No idea what became of the car as I moved away 23 years ago and my grandpa passed about 18 years ago. His second wife still owns the house as far as I know and his adult children really don't talk to her. I assume the Alfa is long gone... unless it's still collecting dust in the garage.
I always thought it was a great looking car and I did actually think it was a Ferarri when I first saw it, as a small child living in the US, maybe around maybe 4 or 5, I didn't know of Alfa Romeo yet but I already knew what a Ferrari was at that age, haha. I don't think I've ever seen another one of these in person and I rarely even see them mentioned online. Very cool to see such a nice example of one here. 👍
This thing is pretty sick!
a lot of guys around melbourne turn the power up huge - 3.2L engines, turbos, the 75 twin spark gear kit goes well. the transaxle seems to handle the power well but just be prepared to wheel spin and oversteer everywhere.
Alfa SZ wheels. Lower car to Euro spec. Old style Stebro exhaust if you can find it. 12V 3.0S engine upgrade is nice upgrade and is close to the character of the 2.5 with more power and torque. Nice car.
I had one of these in the '80s, pretty much identical spec. Looked great, sounded wonderful, but as a car it was pretty awful. The brakes went out of adjustment every hundred miles or so, the gearchange was random and the dampers were duff from new so it handled like a pig. Mine literally fell apart in 3 years. Switches came to bits in my hands, the sunroof started to fly open whenever I accelerated and slam shut when I braked, but most of all it had terminal rust. It was the famous Soviet/Fiat deal where the metal had corrosion in it before it was even made into panels. It bubbled up around the rear window, the A pillars and the wheel arches, and was actually coming out of the seams where the body was welded together. That's what wrote it off. The good news is that if the body is sound you can throw away the brakes and suspension and there is great aftermarket stuff that actually works. Mine was crap but I still miss it....
Beautiful car Casey! If it were me I would keep build it to be a period correct cafe racer sort of thing. Minimal mods but giving the motor a little more pep and some slightly better tyres. Looking forward to seeing where you take it!
LOL running Yokohama a502 on my gtv6!
Love this!
I would keep it stock except the pipes. I think it's perfect the way it is.
I wouldn't go nuts nuts with it, they are already brilliant cars out of the box, I'd just make sure handlings up to scratch, maybe the odd period mod or two and just enjoy it.
As to guess at the next 80's car it sound like the Esprit which technically started life in the 70's like the Countach which is often seen as the ultimate 80s, just make friends with a supplier over in the UK and you should be fine as most running gear seems to be lifted out of various more pedestrian Brits before being hotted up.
Awesomeness. It's all about the sound, so exhaust and pod filter.
They look good on silver steels with the round holes.
I agree!
sorry for the quality ... i think the second picture show the steel model ...not sure ....the aloys are easier to find. i 've never see in real life the steel model here in france
@@drivemodrepeat7496 There was one in my hometown with the steels when I was a kid, UK. It was pretty much the only car in our area near as cool as my dad's mad TA23 Celica.
I cannot remember if any other cars were fitted with the same wheels. I will look up the fitment.
These cars don’t like heavy wheels but there is a manufacturer in California making some nice steel wheels, Corsa Velocita.
I want that GTV 2000 that your dad used to have... they want around 65K for those now... I love them with so much passion and desire...
Casey is a stronger man than I. That cricket would have been dead after 3 minutes.
Gold BBC wheels a perfect visual choice.
I was the Alfa parts guy a big multiline dealer in the late 1970s, so I speak from some experience: in this days, Alfa sourced bits from anyone that would sell them stuff, which led to oddities like 70s GTVs having six different steering boxes, none of them directly interchangeable (different steering arms, knuckles,etc...)
So if you need things Alfa did not themselves manufacture, gather as much info as possible: stamping numbers, marking tags, and so forth....and pray, or sacrifice a goat....
That Alpha looks like a sleeker version of my Volkswagen Dasher. Even the doors and back windows look the same!
Man always wanted one of those !!!
The Alfa Romeo GTV6 won the European Touring Car Championship 3 years in a row.
A very cool car.
Okay Casey, you’ve bought and built a Porsche 944, now an Alfa Romeo GtV6, all you need to complete my personal bucket list of dream cars is an F355 Berlinetta, and 60’s Shelby Mustang. I’ll expect those on your channel in the next week! 😉 For reals though, great video!
...It's weird that of those 2, the Ferrari is the cheaper option.
@@dyent You’re not wrong! 😂
New title.... CASEY FINDS ITALIAN B210, lol. Great find. Was a teen and test drove a late 70a alpha. Loved it. But as a broke teen, $2500 was out of the question.
I was also a touch jealous watching it back off the trailer under its own power. The last 4 crazy decisions I made all had to be pushed or towed off the U-Haul. One had no rear axles. Unloading that was REALLY sketch :)
YES!!! I had one of those! when they were super cheap!
As an Alfa Romeo owner, I wanna see more of that
A set of Equip 4 spoke wheels, in my opinion, would look amazing on that car.
I see you still have the distributor covers. Yours is only the second GTV6 after mine that I have seen them installed! If you want to swap wheels I recommend the Ronal A1. They look nice and are super easy to clean! (Mine is an 85 and I have the Speedlines which are metric and full of nooks and crannies.) If you find you still have the long discontinued twin disc clutch I know a guy that can reline them. (Mine cost $115 to have done.)
I had a few Suds when they were worth nothing and even they were a fun thing despite ordinary casting and cooling but it fed my automotive masochism bug left hungry after I ended my Czech Skoda 120L phase... Also a very underrated car.
The South African GTV6 3.0 Homologation version was the coolest and fastest GTV6
I still wonder whether Avalon King will be happy with King Zero project in the end.
I think the typical aftermarket wheels people put on those are called "phone dial" wheels, there's a bunch of them out there. You can buy them brand new from Mr.Fiat. For the exhaust the ANSA systems sound superb, but good luck finding one that hasn't rotted to bits.
Casey you are hilarious on this one .
Should have told Blain that at night after driving all day the bed is for sleeping .
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Love the car
There`s a guy called David Cironi with his own CZcams channel who reviews one - best road test and evaluation I have seen. I had one which I wish i had never sold. I had a Ferrari Testarossa (flat 12) at the same time and the V6 sounded better. Have two Ferraris now, a V8 and a V12 and still say that Busso V6 sounded better. The gearshift makes you a showoff if you like double de-clutching changing down blipping that throttle - so much fun but put Amsoil gear oil in the transaxle, it makes for a far better gearchange that gives better protection too. You will enjoy it as it is one of the best and underrated cars out there.
In keeping with the 80's theme put some gold lace BBS wheels on it
or gold widened ronals
Bumper delete for cleaner euro race look!
Alfaholics 8 x15 GTAM wheels (gold)
3.0 litre NA Busso
and sorting isostatic linkage to the rear transaxle for better shifts!
Your gunna luv it 😃
Gorgeous car , had a 2,5 early 90’s damn I miss that car still ! Also red , second gear is almost dogleg not quite you will see ! Enjoy her , they are something special !
Didn’t expect to see Buff nation haha
I have braid Fullrace c in gold 15x8, and NTM has great reproductions of classic alfa speedline, ronal, etc.
I was lucky enough to drive one when I was a teenager. My dad bought one and when I was old enough I eventually got to drive it. I have driven many cars in my life, and perhaps I am biased, but this car was my second favorite to drive. My favorite is my old 2004 R32. It drove like a fat GTV-6 but had all the bells and whistles you need. The GTV6 was pretty sparse in the luxury department. .
Looks to me like the offspring of an 80's Ferrari mated with an early Saab 9000.
White tarmac-style rally wheels (Ronal Turbo?) would be dope.
Rotiform wheels dying to go on this.
The clutch pedal is high as standard. It takes up right near the top of the pedal as it's easier to blip the clutch on fast gear changes. I had one and loved it. But the wheel stud pattern is hard to get wheels for aftermarket.
The stock dual plate clutch releases high. A Milano single plate clutch has a more normal release and is commonly used replacement. Also don’t let anybody tell you the gtv6 clutch can’t be rebuilt.
I suggest watching some old footage of YVES LOUBET rallying the Alfa and take inspiration for the wheels from there. And maybe a matte black hood?
yes the footages a are old quality bur they are impressssive; in my place the alfa mecanic was used to be the partner of Mr Loubet. May be one day i will have the chance to meet him ;)
@@drivemodrepeat7496 Good luck with that. :-)
Bring it to Sandusky County Cars & Coffee this Saturday @ Potter Village in Fremont
Awesome hat, Blaine! Casey- almost 14 minutes and you didn't let us hear it? Ugh! Future episode material, I hope!
Turbofan rims !!! No custom exhaust for starters
Hows it going with this car? Do you still have it? Still waiting for a new video ;-)
Gold BBS rs wheels! Period correct but expensive. But dam it would look good.
Oooh that would look so awesome with some gold spoke BBS rally wheels. Red and gold always look good together. Plus, twin white racing stripes. Solid get, Casey! And that's coming from a ceritifed Alfa hater. Just remember to pack a good tool kit :P
Tool kit not needed, once sorted these cars are pretty bulletproof. Do get an extra double relay for the L-jet, toss it in your glovebox. The biggest issue is a weak electrical system. Meticulously clean all the big and small grounds. On the entire car. Install relays for the starter circuit and headlights. The ignition switches get fried. The AC can be made to work OK with a modern parallel flow condenser. Did I mention clean every ground! Put a big ass deep cycle battery, the stock alternator is only 55 amps, use a Milano alternator at 65 amps or there are some others that can be made to work at higher numbers. If you’re dash is not cracked keep it covered out in the sun. Speedo needles as well can curve and stick. 25mm torsion bars are great, 27 a bit stiff for all road work. A 3.0 transplant with S pistons and good cams, exhaust and megasquirt will make 240 hp. After that it gets expensive. The 2.5 has inherently better balance than any of the larger motors and makes the best sound. Make sure you have a 4:10 rear end and if possible find an LSD transaxle from a Milano Platinum. Ther Milano Verde is 3.55. A massive improvement are SZ metal dedion pivot and watts links but they are expensive. Get a set of dropped spindles to fix the front roll center and run 2 degrees of camber, zero toe. I run 225/50-50 A052 on 15x8 braid fullrace C wheels. The suspension does not like heavy wheels. Or go for broke and get an RSR suspension set up. Brakes can get smoked especially the back. If the driveline is well balanced don’t touch it! Did I say clean all all all the grounds and install relays. Replace every fuel line and bit of rubber all the way to the injectors and the return lines from the rail. Alfa9 is a great resource, call Matt and discuss they can get replicas from NTM of lots of cool wheels or Ronal A1 replicas. I just finished a full mechanical rebuild of my gtv6 from front to back, and have had a 116 series Alfa for 38 years. Now have GTV6 3.0, Milano 2.5 Automatic, 4C and Stelvio QF. Alfa crazy. The gtv6 is perfect from bone stock to wildly modified but takes a lot of fettling. It’s a late 1960s design body design and engine, put yourself in that mindset.
Oh current best bet is to use a fixed tensioner, not the original hydraulic or later mechanical tensioner.
Use the shrouded fans from SPAL from a Maserati BiTurbo.
Two nice low mileage GTV6’s sold on Bring a Trailer over the last year or so for $36K and $37K respectively. Hagerty valuation tool indicates avg condition is $18K and concours $46K. That’s a lot more than a few years ago. Congratulations.
Casey is the one red for 8k, did you see it in the Akron area around 6 years ago? If so I have that car
I never bought a GTV6 but always wanted one but I did end up finding an 88 Alfa Romeo Milano Green(Verde) and I regret selling it almost as much as my 86 Porsche 944 Turbo.
cool car
Oh wow I've been wanting one of these since the late 80's and use to see them all the time at a shop called the alfa clinic in Baldwin long island ny. I had a chance to buy a nice clean black one in like 2005 but didn't have the money for it and in 2006 i saw a lancia monte Carlo at shop that was just rebuilt and i thought that was way cooler and rarer so i bought it for $5000 and 5 months later the owner of Alfa clinic in Baldwin offered me to buy his ultra rare alfa Romeo gtv6 Callaway turbo and i was so mad at myself for not buying it because i already spent all my money on lancia. Dam I kick myself in the ass for not buy it.🤣
Seems you bought a great example. Completely original, not even lowered in the front. Great looking interior as well. Dont think you payed too much for a GTV in this condition.
Wheels: 15" Ronal A1 always good on an Alfa from the 80s. Theres also a guy on YT with a beautiful Alfetta GTV 2000 with 16 or 17" BBS gold/polished rims. Thats really good looking.
Probably good idea to lower it a bit in the front(be aware of the headers and oil pan) , change shocks all round and springs in the rear. Also have a look at upgrading castor arms with ball joints and have a look at suspension upgrades Ron Simons offers for the 116 series.
Gearshift linkage can be upgraded too.
It will really refine your GTV and make it handle quite perfect.
I really love these cars and their engineering. Some things are a bit difficult to reach like changing rear brakepads, clutch slave cylinder replacement, bleeding rear calipers (lift the rear of the car and leave the front low helps) Rest is all easy and straight forward. Lowering the front also easy by adjusting the torsionbars.front camber can be altered with thicker shims for lower arm.
Check the prices for nice gtv6, you won’t find a good one for cheaper
Agree, GTV6 in this condition is worth it. I might even say its sort of cheap. Prices in Europe are the same. Theres a really nice blue metallic one for sale in France and a silver Savali GTV6 in Holland
Hello Casey i have a suggestion for cool 80s rims there called Ronal A1 i think they look verry good on a GTV
Ronal A1 were an Alfa Accessory and look awesome. You can get 15” or 16” reproductions. Please no 17’s on a gtv6. Call Alfa9
Richard Melvin has lots of performance parts for these at CSR racing.
I love mine
GREAT TIP!
Welcome to the Alfisti!
Aftermarket exhaust and some gold/bronze period appropriate wheels.
Why does it have outside park benches?
I'm up here in Metro Detroit with a Milano and a GTV6. I know a lot of the Alfa V6 folks around here, have a lot of parts, have done just about everything mechanical to these that you can. Lemme know if you need stuff.
I always wanted a GTV6! Ever since seeing (and hearing!) James Bond rip one through the streets in Octopussy. I did eventually briefly own a FAR uglier but still fun to drive Milano with the same engine.
I loved my ugly Milano, I had 2. A 88 2.5 gold, and a 87 3.0 Verde.. plus 3 gtv6's.. 3 late 80s spider veloce, 4 Alfetta's, 2 164's.. still have the 87 spider, it's a work in progress.. Go Alfa!!!!
@@des9655 The Milano was glorious to drive, and you know, when I see them now (in photos only sadly, as it's been YEARS since I've seen one in the flesh!), I find them quite attractive, they certainly don't look like any other car (as with pretty much any Alfa). These days so many cars look so much alike it's hard the tell them apart.
@@captainflamson yeah, Alfa's had their distinctive look, some were better than others, I tracked my 2.5 Milano a couple times, I once got a comment from another driver saying "so you are the one driving a milk truck on wheels " I just laughed and went on
Weird, one of the best cars I ever owned and the one I wish I had never sold
that is a good looking car
Take a look at the ronal a1 wheels, I think you might like them