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- čas přidán 15. 07. 2024
- Always Board Never Boring had the chance to play a review copy of Euthia: Torment of Resurrection prior to the launch of the Euthia: Cruel Frost Kickstarter campaign. In this video he reviews Euthia and shares his thoughts on the game system.
ABNB has decided to keep this game in his collection, despite it being quite a lot of effort to organise and set up to play. There are lots of reasons why, so let's find out what they are...
This is a long one, so here are your time stamps:
00:00 Intro
01:02 Components and scale
03:38 Overview
05:55 Miniatures
06:45 Character setup
07:11 Game setup
08:12 Gameplay overview
09:27 Action point system
10:24 Game turn example
12:45 Encounters
13:34 Combat
18:42 Trading
19:24 Mining
20:04 Reputation and upgrades
21:28 Cool rules
23:15 The downsides
24:51 Final thoughts
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Awesome video as always. I need to go get this game to the table again, your video really made me want to play it again. So many games, not enough time. While the game is large, the inserts that were purchasable or 3D printing a box insert makes setting up quick and easy.
Time is the biggest enemy for this game. I'm not totally convinced any amount of organising will make it a quick game to set up - there are so many different things to arrange based on solo, co-op, competitive, player count, scenario, and whether you are using extra rules like elite monsters and the griffin - but when you have the time for it, it's well worth getting it set up.
This was a truly great, detailed and most importantly honest review, and I appreciate it a lot.
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Thank you so much. I'm glad you enjoyed the review, and I really appreciate your support.
Man, your reviews are always so amazing 👌💯💪
Thank you so much. That's really kind of you, and I'm glad you are enjoying the reviews.
This kind of reminds me of the hero's might and magic board game. I like the mini's, the elementals look AWESOME!!. Putting this game on my bucket list of games to play
The game from Archon Studio? I've never had a chance to play it so I can't say. Euthia is definitely one to have a go with if you get a chance and like this sort of adventure game.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring My Heroes game just arrived a couple of weeks ago!
Thanks for the review! I’m primarily a solo player, so this has helped me come to terms with the fact this might not be the game for my collection. Plus I love campaign games SO much.
It's an amazing game, and it does have a competent solo mode (with an app available to run the monster combat in solo mode), but I can't say I would recommend it for solo players who like campaigns.
Fantastic look at this great game!
Thanks for watching. I was so impressed at how the game flowed. It really is very enjoyable.
I have Euthia deluxe version with both expansions and even when ALL of the components are stored in an organised way they still fill 3 boxes (2 the same size as your set + 1 slightly smaller, but not by much). Overall the life of the game is probably never ending, especially with the latest kickstarter arriving soon. Yes I will buy it to fill my collection. Will I ever have time to play them? Doubtfull, but I will have them in case I ever do LOL. Great video as always Kev.
They are the boxes you want to have in your house when there's a blizzard! It really is the kind of game you dive into for a weekend.
As a new backer (potentially) would you recommend getting all the expansions or just the base game? I appreciate this will be a little subjective though…
I don't know if you were hoping for an answer from Tigerpawdesigns rather than me, but it's hard for me to answer because, by the nature of what I do, I have to play a lot of different games all the time and that makes it harder to justify owning three massive boxes for just one game system (although I absolutely do for some of my favourites). I think the core Euthia game is more than enough Euthia for me - it really does have so much replayability and I would be surprised if I ever played all scenarios multiple times.
I would say you have to think carefully, and understand your own gaming habits. Are you likely to play it all, or will you drift to other game systems? You also have to remember this game is never coming to retail. If you only got the core game, would you later regret not picking up the rest? It's a difficult one.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring thank you for the reply (and awesome videos). This is definitely food for thought. I am usually a completionist with my games and these days tend to focus on big box solo games as these are the games that give me most enjoyment usually. I think if I enjoyed the base game, I would certainly want the expansions to slowly work my way through (I am never panicked about a game taking a while to complete / coming to and from my table over an extended period of time) but I won't have the chance to play just the base game in this case without backing all of it, which is a decent investment financially if I don't end up liking it. I love fantasy in games alongside character development, which this looks like it has in spades but need to figure out if it provides a different enough experience to other (similar) games I own such as MK and Hexplore It etc.
@@23101981mr Every time you play, it is different - so just the base game is enough for some people - The expansions bring new flavours of gameplay, with different tiles and rules. Therefore expansions would feel like different games with the same base gameplay but with refined differences to the style of play with different monsters and effects. All-In is a good option if you are looking for a bit of everything. The deluxe version gives you so much more and is worth the extra money in my opinion.
Great vid.
Thank you.
Good review and yep, the size of contents means I checked out 😂
Thanks. I think Euthia is a superb game, but it's definitely not going to be for everyone, and you really have to want to play it to go through the setup process.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Loved your Heroquest reviews by the by the way. Much more up my street 🤣🤣
Thank you for watching. HeroQuest is such a wonderfully accessible game. There aren't many games where you can unfold a board, give someone a miniature and a character sheet, place one stairway tile and a door, and then start playing.
I got this sitting in stack of shame at the moment but jumped on it cause it looked great and wasn’t going to retail. Once through with Primal - will crack this one open and likely jump on the expansion.
Primal the Awakening? How are you enjoying that? Looks pretty great.
I was very tempted to back this due to my love of Mage Knight, but ultimately decided not to. I can't wait to hear what my favorite board game CZcamsr has to say about it!
I absolutely love Mage Knight. I've still never managed to play it with anybody else, but it's a bloody lovely game to sink into on a long evening. Euthia reminds me of it very much, but does things in a way that (for me) makes it work better as a multi-player game.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Aye, I just finished watching your video, and am appreciative of your honesty for that conclusion. I adore Mage Knight for its solo play, and I don't see my friends wanting to play a "heavy" game like Euthia, so this will be a pass for me :)
I do think Euthia is an easier sell to a group than Mage Knight (I wouldn't even know where to begin explaining Mage Knight!), but it's definitely one that is quite daunting. I was impressed how smooth the actual gameplay was, because it looks like it should be a fiddly mess!
lol Anyone remember the movie Clue?
The Butler :"1+2+2+1."
Ms. Scarlett: "No, there was only one shot, so it was 1+2+1+1"
The Butler: "Even if you were right, it would be 1+1+2+1, not 1+2+1+1."
Ms. Scarlett: "Fine, 1+2+ ... shut up!!" 🤣
Haven't seen Clue since I was a kid. Tim Curry is always good value, though.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Such a funny movie. And one of the best Board Game-Movie adaptations evah!
I've been waiting on the KS to launch for this for ages, but after watching this, I'm not sure if I have the time for it. I've already got Chronicles of Drunagor, and Tanares Ultimate on the way and I definitely don't have enough time for another big box game. Wondering now if I should sell one of the other 2 in favour of this? 🤔
I haven't played Drunagor or Tanares Adventures, so I can't speak with too much authority. While I understand the comparison - they are all big games - I think Euthia is probably something of a different experience. The other two are dungeon crawlers, and they are both focused on campaign play. Euthia is an overland adventure game intended for self-contained games that play in a single session. So, Euthia might be able to slot into those game sessions where you can't get your campaign game up and running for whatever reason, but conversely, if you have a lot of campaign games they often overtake a schedule and other games can't get a look in.
I want to get this but the main issue I have is I am out of space. These kickstarter games take up so much room. I am at the point where if I want something, I will have to sell something, but in this games case I would have to sell several games to make room. 1st world problems I guess, and I appreciate your review as always.
It can be difficult. One of the main problems with this hobby is the space it consumes, and this game really takes its share.
Great review. Looks good, but I have a shed load..literally, of games. A few I have not played yet. So will pass on this. Tempted I will admit. Ah well. First World problems 😂
Too many games is always a good problem to have! Thank you for watching.
I'm in the exact same situation. Shed full of board games. Several unopened games including Gloomhaven. I have more game than I can fit in the rest of my lifetime.
Looks neat, but I don't think it differentiates itself enough from Mage Knight to warrant me owning it.
Plus I am about to get my copy of the second HexploreIt campaign book and that will fill up my time for a very long time.
Too many adventure games...
For me, it does a few things that Mage Knight doesn't. It plays smoother and faster (you don't get those turns where you are struggling to even move to the hex you want, and it's less crunchy), and I think it's much more accessible and playable as a multiplayer experience. I love Mage Knight, but Euthia is staying in my collection. I would reach for Mage Knight for solo play, but Euthia for a group game.
The first thought I had was "We need to get a bigger Table" lol. I love bigish games (loved Destinies) but all those small tokens and cards brings me out in a sweat. Thinking of all the component keeping involved - gulp. I bet the price is eye watering as well 😂. Also over complicated rules is a turn off esp if the rule book is poorly layed out. If it was a kickstarter project I'm more cautious as many a game from there they throw everything at it except the kitchen sink and it ends up a nightmare and a complete mess to play and would of worked better with a bit more restrain.
I think I can assuage some of those concerns. There really are tons of bits to make the game work, but the core gameplay is very straightforward, and the rules are very well done. They are well spaced with lots of examples, contents at the front, index at the back, and an indexed appendix for the icons.
Euthia has already funded successfully twice on Kickstarter, and the core game and first expansion are known quantities, so there are plenty of reviews out there if you want to know even more.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring that's reassuring esp it's a second run - I thought it was a first run and that's where my concerns are largely felt lol.
Those dice look absolutely gorgeous.
The dice are one of my favourite things. You get a different coloured set for each hero and they are so nice.
Oh, to have an endless game budget and a little château to store them all in...
That sounds nice.
Welcome to modern board games.
I'm assuming from this comment you mean it's the norm now for modern games to be huge, sprawling things. If so, that's an interesting comment that I partly agree with. I think that perception of modern games comes mainly from crowdfunding, which is a shame because I think it has the possibility of turning people off the hobby. It's certainly true that a lot of crowdfunding projects need to keep going bigger and bigger to stand out, and there's a reason games like Euthia won't go to retail. It just isn't a feasible product for a store shelf. However, my collection is full of modern games that are really sleek and compact.
A lot of games from Restoration Games, GF9, Ravensburger, Funko, Avalon Hill, and Games Workshop pack a huge amount of gameplay into very small boxes (for example, Horrified, Another Glorious Day in the Corps, Betrayal at House on the Hill, Tokyo Clash, Blitz Bowl, and Unmatched). Even games that started on Kickstarter can get retail releases that are more manageable. Dungeon Saga Origins is a tiny box with a very compact set of components, and I was surprised with how less fussy Tainted Grail was than it could have been, thanks to ideas like the universal tracking cubes.
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You assumed correctly; especially where adventure & dungeon crawl board games are concerned. IMHO, it has gotten out of hand due to crowdfunding. At the same time, many of these great games would never have been manufactured without crowdfunding. Since crowdfunding is here to stay, I feel we need more small games where the entire game is a single box at less than $100 USD; the campaign is just to get in early with bonus material that isn't mandatory to enjoy the game.
Yeah, I enjoy a big adventure, and I have a few games like Shadows of Brimstone and Euthia that are quite epic in scale, but I think that makes it even more important to also have companies like GF9, Ravensburger and Funko putting out those small box games that prove you can still make a really compelling title that can easily fit on a store shelf (or your book shelf) without compromising on gameplay.
This is one of those games, that i'll have to sneak past the wife due to the cost. If she ever found out.... £590 after postage and vat for the all-in.
That's a lot of game. I think the core set is more than enough for me, but you are getting a lifetime of adventures there!
Steamforged Games?
Eh, let's just say I'm *extremely hesitant* to give them the time of day after they way they've handled the Dark Souls board game and RPG.
Steamforged Games have done a lot since Dark Souls. I haven't played a lot of their games, but the ones I have I really enjoy. Dark Souls is actually a top 10 game for me, and I really enjoy Godtear and their Epic Encounters D&D products.
As far as Euthia goes, it may be useful for some people to know this is the second Kickstarter they have run for it. I don't actually know if the first one ran smoothly (I am sure BGG has the scoop) but I know they saved Euthia after the previous Kickstarting attempt from Diea Games didn't get enough traction, which earned them a lot of credit in the community. Also, if you are worried about Steamforged Games' in-house design team, Euthia was made by Diea Games, and Steamforged Games are just producing.
This isn't to get you to change your mind, of course - that's not my job! - just sharing my own perspective.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Dark Souls was only playable with a few homebrew fixes...
...and I don't know if you saw what they did with the actual RPG, but even amateurs could instantly spot errors (classes being unable to actually use their starting gear, contradictory rules within a few paragraphs, and some rules entries that simply just stop in the middle of a sentence).
I don't know about the RPG. I love Dark Souls though, and played it rules as written straight from the box. I am less enamoured with the revised sets with the campaign structure, but I have taken a few of the rules from that version and incorporated them to taste.