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🚲 This 1500W Ebike Works Without A Controller (Full DIY Build - ASMR-ish)
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- čas přidán 5. 08. 2024
- No controller? How does that work? Full DIY build of a 1500W Hub Motor Kit.
I built this ebike using a Schwinn Sidewinder frame and it's pretty awesome! This is a Juaopay 1500W hub motor kit and the controller is embedded inside the motor. This has some unique advantages being that you don't need a place to mount the controller and also the wiring is much more simplified because all the wires that would be going from the controller to the motor are directly connected. This provides a very clean look and also makes installation much easier.
The only real downside to this is that if you have an issue with the controller you basically have to replace the motor as well, which can be a pain but I think the positives outweigh the detriments.
This was a super fun build and I document all the steps ASMR-style so it may help you out if you're looking to build your own DIY ebike. 1500W is more than plenty of power as with this kit you can go up to 30MPH, this is slightly less than a kit with a separated controller, but not by much.
I did have two issues that I go over when building the bike but both were pretty simple to fix with explanations of how I fixed them.
Thanks for watching, more builds on the way!
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Hi dude I am back been busy busy good to see another build and a must say that looks great nice and easy to set up thanks for sharing 👍
That's great to hear man, welcome back! It's a super nice build I must say, thanks for watching brother!
I have a similar 1200w direct drive with integrated 30A controller but from Saili Motor. Next time you order off Ali, ask your supplier to include an extra controller unit (hub needs to be disassembled and soldering then required, but now you can repair the hub). This integrated controller unit is about $30. One other thing about your lower speed...check that P14 on the sw900 display is set to 30A and not the default setting of 12A. You might even push P14 out to 35A. Happy riding
Thanks for the tip man 👍I haven't needed to replace one of these controllers yet, but it shouldn't be too hard.
Oh yeah, I'm well versed in programming, already set the display to 40A, and battery can do that too, but this kit was only advertised to 30MPH, so I think they down tune the controller for heat management, or at least that's my guess.
Thanks!
@@hightech-lowlife if you live in a area that gets super hot like Arizona Texas or Florida you can take a 120mm pc fan and wire them to any 6-12v power and have sort of active cooling on the controller or in my case since I'm using a chain drive mounted in the swingarm I have a fan on my motor and another one on my controller and never had an overheating issue and I'm pushing 72v 3.6kw peak through a motor that was rated for 48v 1200w
Does setting your amps make a difference as the seller I purchased it from said not in there testing, if it does what should I set it too I have a 48v 17.5ah battery with a 30a bms hooked to a 45amp controller and 2000w hub motor would appreciate it if you could help me, great vid 👍
You are a great talent. Love this style of bike. My preference is about 2000 watt mid drive aka BBSHD on a 29'er hardtail...but your bike looks like a hoot too.
Thanks so much Luke! 👍 I will be doing a 29" mid drive soon
Very good video, I'm planning to get one e bike and build it by my self
Awesome, do it man! Thank you!
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Nice build HT\\LL, you are right the asmr build was good, and I'm happy to see you, finally, starting to use safety torque arms on all your failure points. It was very troubling to see you on those high speed bikes without safety devices. 🤣😂😅... Take good care my friend, hope you had a good Thanksgiving. 🍻👍
Thanks so much Gil! I know it took me forever to come around but big TA really showed me the way after lining my pockets with cash 😂Thanks brother, I hope you had a happy T-day also, please take care and thanks for watching!
@@hightech-lowlife 🤣😂😅 big TA... 😅😂🤣
@@gi169 Watch out Gil! 😂😂
Nice video thanks
Thanks for watching!
Ive seen ads for the new motors with built in controller within the motor Hub. Its the latest or not too new but out there now. Believe Jauopay Conversion kits have one of those model types, just 1 from what I saw a year ago..
Yes, same as the mid drives like bafang feature an integrated controller 👍
@@hightech-lowlife They great for Dual builds.
@@user619tlsdca5 Oh yeah, the compactness will help when you're running dual systems 👍
But overall makers know now of riders messing with specs of cutting certain wires to go faster but everyone knows where the e bike fires are coming from, from DIY ppl messing with specs. Controller inside provides safety overall of ppl not going to be able to cut anything. Those fires mainly from DIY of controller and battery spec messin and never admit to investigators their e bike self modified from getting fined or claim damages against makers.@@hightech-lowlife
Ha ha! I'm glad to hear you've jumped onto the torque arm bandwagon, but unfortunately a new study has shown that torque arms are not enough. You have to actually weld the axle to the frame. And don't worry about the motor cable. It can handle it.
Well, if we're going for "safety" above all else, then soon you will also have to weld your bike stationary to the floor, and wear a full suit of bubble wrap, but then that will be deemed far too dangerous because people were crying that the bubble wrap chafed them. Then the only way to ride an ebike would be through the use of VR goggles, but then they will take those away because they're dangerous and the lights were causing some people to have vision problems, so ultimately the only safe way to ride an ebike was to lay in your bed asleep, but even that can be dangerous - "28 days, 6 hours, 42 minutes, 12 seconds."
i really hope that amazon bike can withstand the torque of the motor since ive heard some really bad stories regardless to their assembly quality in the workshop so i would double check every preinstalled thing on the bike.
Thanks for your concern. This is a Schwinn frame, not an amazon bike 👍There is a stigma in the ebike community that if you don't spend a lot on a premium brand frame, then your bike will break and fall apart, but I know this from experience to be nonsense.
A lot of premium frames will favor lightness over strength, which actually leads them to be less useful for powerful ebike conversions (many will use aluminum or carbon - and thinner frames). I'm sure there are people who have broken their frames, but same with people who have spend hundreds more or even thousands on a gucci frame (I've owned specialized and trek bikes before). What you mostly get from ultra premium is better components like shocks/shifters/brakes, but as far as the frame itself, I don't feel the price is justified as you're mostly paying for the name and status.
I go over every part of a new build anyway, as almost everything needs adjustment.
Good bro congratulations on the assembly Could you leave the engine link?
www.ebay.com/itm/234596733844 👍
I've been doing research on these built in controllers would you recommend? Im having doubts about they're reliability.
It's a good question, I haven't had enough time with one of the integrated controllers to say for certain, but I do believe they are reliable.
If you're more DIY oriented I still would recommend a separated controller, just because it makes it a bit easier to troubleshoot and replace parts more easily than an integrated unit, also you could upgrade the controller later if you wanted. But if you want something very easy to install and a cleaner look, I wouldn't be too weary of the integrated controller hub motors 👍
Is there a link for the kit and battery
The schwinn bike frame platform is a good frame to build a ebike on that why I picked the schwinn axum for my ebike build. So what's the top speed on that setup? About 29mph?
Hey guys just so you know its mountainlion here I just changed my name. These kits are surprisingly good value, I am torn between making another stealth bomber, redo a retro motorbike to electric or do a mountainbike conversion. But at the same time I am happy going at 33.5mph that is fast enough. 😎
100% yep 30 exactly, some other 1500W kits I've had go 34mph, so could be because of the integrated controller 👍
33 is plenty fast in my opinion! If you're happy with that then save your money and stick with what you got, you can always decide on something else later.
My 1500w motor with internal controller failed after I hit a bump. Immediately, threw an error code 2 (brakes) which I can't reset unless I open up the motor and check out the controller. I've built several ebikes. This was the first internal controller bike I built and it is the only one that had the controller fail. The controllers are electronics and they're too fragile to put in the wheel. It looks good but it is not practical. Unfortunately, I speak from experience.
I'm sorry to hear that man, and thanks for your input 👍I would try opening the motor, I have another video I made on how to diagnose faults in hub motors and it could help, I'm sure if it's fixable you'll be able to do it. There are definitely advantages to having a separate controller, the in-hub all in one packages are more for convenience. For my personal bikes I would always choose to have a separate controller.
I like your battery, do you think it's a safe battery. Do you know if it has glued cells? I like the price point and the size to fit in a modded crew dart. Also is it the 52v20a with 40bms
I would personally trust this battery, it's a reputable company that has sold tons of batteries over a long period of time. I'm not sure if the cells are glued, but most likely. www.ebay.com/itm/385104976374
It's 48V (they do have a 52V version for more though). It has a 40A bms, 20Ah. 👍
Actually found it cheaper here (same seller): www.ebay.com/itm/385231658718 apparently it's 21700 cells.
@@hightech-lowlife i have this exact motor and it will do 34 or faster but you have to use the 52v battery, it says that on thier page, i was using 52v 20ha downtube battery, but i just bought a bike like the one you have here, the downtube battery was too big to fit , i bought that same battery you have but not the 48v , bought the 52v and i hope your right about it being a good battery i took a chance on it only ridden once on it but didnt seem to get the same mileage as the downtube battery but i also had the amps set to 35A form 30A, i put it back down to 30A and will test if range is better. so kinda iffy if it is a 20ah i have more test to do.
@@itbemine1964 That's cool man! It probably will do 34 with 52v for sure, I just know from the other kits I've tried that they will do 34 on a 48v battery, so I saw there was some limitation in comparison.
I believe it is just uses different cells, 21700 instead of the 18650 I'm more used to.
Good luck man, thanks!
If the frame isn't steel use torque arms on any hub that can produce over 40nm torque and really make sure the axle nuts are on *very* tight
I agree 100% I'm doing an aluminum build soon and crafted my own TAs for it. 👍
Hi: I commute 31 miles each day. I'm interested in a build with high reliability... I push the bike and 750W motor and burn out the motors (hall effect sensors). I'm thinking that a 1500W motor may be better for my application - 22-25mph on pretty much flat roads. What brand/motor would you recommend? Do you think the build in your vid would work for me? Thanks for the vid... it was awesome!
Thanks man!
You're burning out motors all the time? 1500W Will do 30-34mph, so it will have an easier time if you're not pushing it to the limit for sure 👍
I've used all kinds of kits, haven't really had any issues ranging from very cheap to more expensive, but YMMV.
I think this build is perfect for commuting like that, depending on a lot of things that 30 miles may be pushing it for run time (again depends a lot) but if you can charge at work part way, then it's super easy.
hey did it come with a xt90 or xt60 battery connection on the hub? my batttery has a xt60 so im trying to figure out if i need a adapter before the kit arrives
Neither, I added my own XT60 connector to match the battery I purchased. I believe it came with bare wires to add your own connector, but I don't remember. When in doubt ask the seller, they will be able to tell you what battery connector comes standard (if any).
@@hightech-lowlife I sent the ebay seller and voilamart a message asking and I haven't had a response yet. Thank you for your video and info!
No worries man, sometimes they will include an adapter if you ask and if they have it. Best thing is to get into making your own connections, it's pretty easy and this way you never have to worry if you get sent the wrong one 🍻@@joshyelton
I have the same battery I get about 10 miles doing 38 mph
Yeah, high speeds will drain a battery quickly 👍
On my 4th display last one in settings went from 8 to 13, when I contacted the seller he told me it came out factory like that😂😂😂😮😂 Them sneaky Chinese you gotta watch them..🤔
Yeah there was something wrong for sure, the company actually sent me another one, no questions asked. They had me try a few troubleshooting steps, but after that they replaced it without a hassle, so I was happy about that. I think I could have fixed it myself, but should work out of the box 🍻
I've actually been through like 8 kits always something wrong with them, and always wanting me to do the troubleshooting the way I think of it is it's like buying a new car I shouldn't have to take it apart in my driveway to find out what's wrong with it because it's new....! That's the way they sell you on Chinese crap..💩
@@monkeyhaters9258 Yeah I totally get it man, maybe I'm just lucky but I really haven't had many problems at all with these kits and motors and I've bought a ton of them. The times I did have issues they were always very helpful to me as well, so my experience has not been the same, but I get that others may not have had that same experience. I'm not even sure if there is a motor company that is based in the US, or if they are, I'm sure their components are not manufactured here. I think we will see a resurgence of American made goods in the future however 🍻Cheers
fine bro but what is when the controller build in the hub motor fails ? i can imagine for a "noob" it will be a pain dissasemble it ! and WHAT IS UP WITH THAT BIKE NO TORQE RM ARE U KIDDING ?^^
That's the only real drawback I can see, that if you do have a problem with the controller it makes swapping it out impossible. I KNOW CAN YOU BELEIVE IT!? 😂 That's why I made sure to put multiple TAs on this bike, gotta be safe man.
Where did you buy this bicucle kit, it's excelent?🙂
Amazon 👍JauoPay 1500W hub motor
@@hightech-lowlife Thank you
@@miki4paint724 🍻
Have you ever installed front hub what do you recommend or suggest.
I tend to stick with rear hubs as you have more control over your bike (torque steer) and also because the rear dropouts are stronger than the fronts.
I personally wouldn't put too high power of a motor on a front fork, but if you're just casually riding and not doing anything too crazy then it should be totally fine. Just be sure to use torque arms on a front hub because they are much more prone to failure.
Anything in the 500-1000W range should be good, there are a ton of front hub kits out there 👍
@@hightech-lowlife I'm more of a casual Rider My Evel Knievel days are done 🤘 thanks for responding so quickly 😎
@@behindblueeyes3397 No problem man, thanks!
Do you have a link to a motor and battery ??
BOOM:
www.ebay.com/itm/385104976374
www.ebay.com/itm/234596733844
👍
I bought an e-bike off Amazon and there was no visible controller? Must be in the motor also
Yeah, if it works then the controller is in the motor 👍
do you have the links? websites? where you bought all the items
I've answered this question many times in other comments if you look
www.ebay.com/itm/385104976374
www.ebay.com/itm/234596733844
(Fixed) So i just bought another ebike kit (1500w hub) but the problem is that its scratching inside of the motor and even when i twisted the axle with my hands (motor was not mounted) it makes this sound. Have you any idea how to fix that? It tried to open it but im scared to make it even worse. Btw its a CSC kit.
If you just bought it I would return it for a replacement 👍If you want to try and fix it yourself check my other latest video on hall sensor testing, it'll show you how to open the motor and I'm sure you'll see something binding/rubbing that you may be able to clearance it.
@@hightech-lowlife Thanks, i think i Just try to fix it, i really don't want to send it back and wait.
@@golextech It's probably just something catching on the magnets as it rotates, could be some of the insulation on the wiring 👍
@@hightech-lowlife i actually found a little metal piece inside the motor. But i just cant get it out its between the magnets and the copper bindings.(edit) finally got it out i ended up taking the stator out of the rotor, oh man that are some strong magnets.
@@golextech That's awesome man, congratulations! Yes the magnets are crazy strong, but they have to be to move so much weight 👍
Where is the link to this electric bike kit?
I don't provide links because most often the place I bought it from is no longer selling it. I bought this back in 2022, and I can't find any seller now carrying this specific kit.
There are many alternatives though, this is the closest from the same brand, but the controller is not embedded: www.amazon.com/JauoPay-Electric-Conversion-Colourful-Controller/dp/B08TMCHJF4
not controller no worries lol
Exactly 🍻
Where did you buy your hub motor?
This kit is on Amazon, just search "1500W Ebike Kit" and you will see a bunch of results. 👍
@@hightech-lowlife Where? Maybe a link would be better than "on Amazon, just search..."; there are MANY 1500W Ebike kits.
@@tghepburn1390 www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09MTCH1CL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
czcams.com/video/anbrb2u9GYI/video.html
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Link to ebike kit pls
This one has a different display, but everything else is the same: www.amazon.com/Electric-Conversion-Brushless-Controller-Waterproof/dp/B09Q67B83J
Do you have a link for this kit
BOOM:
www.ebay.com/itm/385104976374
www.ebay.com/itm/234596733844
👍
Thanks Iam looking for 29 inch kit I can’t seem to find one
@@humieandoscarlopez3483 I haven't seen any with an integrated controller in that size, but the 29" csc ones will do: www.ebay.com/itm/164867467693
Thanks another question sorry to bother you can I use the same battery you used on this kit will it work
@@humieandoscarlopez3483 Yeah 100% 👍
ну сомневаюсь что там 20 ампер часов,скорее 7)
Not sure, but range seems to be similar to the other 20Ah packs I have purchased that were larger 👍
Guys for the last time
Steel frames generally don’t need torque arms, now aluminum 100% you should always add torque arms. On steel frames unless you are running very high power there is only like a 7% chance of the motor spinning out, it’s more of a peace of mind addition for steel frames
Thanks man! 😅trust me though, it won't be the last time. This idea that you need to run torque arms no matter what, will be perpetuated infinitely, but I will also continue to make fun of it. Cheers man! 🍻
Way to troll the torque arm tyrannist, I can hear them coming out of the woodwork now.
THEY'RE OUT THERE, BEWARE! 😂 You know I'll get flamed for poking them, but it's all in good fun.
@@hightech-lowlife quanto é o valor
@@kerllyson2292 How much is what? Que?
@@hightech-lowlife quanto é o valor
@@kerllyson2292 I don't know what you're asking, rephrase or add more context.
NO. CONTROLLER..!! OH
IT'S BUILT INTO THE HUB.....!!!!
DOUBLE. TALK........ DUNSE........ 😊
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Double lol. Torque arms are gay!
😂😂
Definitely queer and bisexual communism.
SPOIL ALERT ITS GOT A CONTROLLER INN IT
Yes, it does 👍