The fact that Ace never knew Sabo was alive supports the argument that the Revolutionary Commanders are simply more covert in their operations and less talked about because they're not the ringleader. They don't go into massive publicized standoffs where commanders flashily block the path of anyone who wants to fight their leader, like how most arcs go. They get the job done and then dip.
but what about the opposite.. You'd think the revolutionaries would be aware of ace getting captured and due to for exceution.. But i guess you could make the argument that sabo was conveniently not around to read/hear about that paper edit: stop telling me sabo didnt have memories, i know this, i literally state it a few comments below..
@@RikXtreme4 We could also say they never wanted to reveal this info fearing Sabo would try to fo something and ruin their plans or end up ruining some kind of operation
@@RikXtreme4 Sabo still lived with Luffy and Ace pior to that, thry are the Revolutionary Army, if Ivankov and Kuma knew about Luffy, which, from what we saw, was given to Garp very early, they could've know about Ace and Sabo's connection. We were shown that Dragon kinda keeps track of Luffy's actions before. And, one big point, the story is not over so we can still get an explanation
Robin's bounty makes sense in the context it was issued. Imagine being an ordinary person looking at a bounty board and seeing 500 million on a 8 year old's poster. That gets people talking and questioning things the WG really doesn't want anyone diving into. 79 is just high enough that it incentivizes people to go after her but not too high that it starts raising suspicions around the world
And to add on to your comment, Robin's low bounty will avoid people discovering the existence of the poneglyphs and the true history, which is what the WG would want.
True. Not only would a 500 million berri bounty on a 8 year old girl make people suspicions But, it would also make people scared, and run away with terror. Just how Big Mom got a higher bounty then Nico Robin at an even younger age, because she was extremely dangerous, and not a criminal that bounty hunters can reasonably take out. No civilian ever opposed Big Mom, and no Bounty hunter ever dared to fight her. So, a 79 million bounty for Robin, does make sense in hindsight because it is pretty high, but definitely not too high from an in world perspective.
I agree with what you're saying. But I do still think it should have been a bit higher. At least over 100mill. Because I can imagine there were probably some strong bounty hunters who don't get out of bed unless the bounty is a certain level.
same with law... the fact that his fruit is so valuable is a secret edit: and the price a one off of sorts, or atleast only revealed to somebody that has the fruit in his posession
My thoughts on Robin's bounty: The WG wants a bounty for her that was high enough for ordinary people to be interested but not high enough to attract the attention of the other big powers. Maybe.
Morley having the lowest makes sense since he has a power that lets him hide underground Betty having the highest makes sense because she's the most vocal and openly rebellious with her cheering fruit
Bounties at least have the built-in protection of being assigned by flawed humans. Some people have high bounties due to being sensationalized. Some because they're political targets. Some have low bounties for similar reasons, etc. I don't think every bounty needs to be carefully explained by a character so long as there's enough room for some rationalization. They're bounties, after all, not scientific analysis. Criminals can never be caught just as easily as they can be more wanted than they ought be.
Damn I didn't realize you were into one piece, or that you watched Mr. Morj Gripes. I love your content bro, especially your criticisms but I don't mind your drawings either. Keep it up.
You could justify Robin's low bounty to the fact that it would be really crazy for the WG to issue billions for a little child, no matter how much of a threat she is. It would tell the world that WG is scared of one small girl for some reason. People would naturally question it way more than ever.
If that was the reason then they should've changed it by now, specially since we have other members in the same crew as her with bounties above 300,000,000 and so hers wouldn't even feel that weird. I think it's just a logical hole that we have to shrug off like Morj said.
@@userusernomi yeah, Robin really should have close to a billion bounty for what she can do. Since she is a notorious pirate in a very notorious crew, high bounty like that would be normal.
@@glueonroachbro I think that is because she actively caused destruction and the physique to justify that bounty. You would be hard pressed to call her a kid even at age 11.
I think Oda did say that Pirates are scaled up for their association with an Emperor. That would be an explanation for pinkbeard. But yeah your point still stands.
Not even an empreror. Remember that half of the Straw Hats had their bounties raised just by assosiaction, despite not being Dressrosa for most of the arc.
Pinkbeard was willing to go after Celestial Tributes in the countries he raided. The WG would take FAR more issue with that than just him attacking civilians.
to be fair, Impel Down's structure actually makes it so the lower levels are larger than the higher levels. Level 5 has more space in it than Level 4, for instance.
That makes sense though. The majority of pirates are in the four blues, and it’s only really established New World pirates who have bounties that high. For example, there were only 11 pirates with a bounty higher than 100 mil berry in the entirety of Paradise as of the Sabaody arc.
@@dingochungis6814 and to be even more fair I don't think that those who have over 500million bounties will stay long in there as they are mostly backed up by the Yonko and are overall a high thread. They should be executed in no time. Overall imprisoning is such a weird thing for outlaws, as it will just consume some of the taxes the civilians have to offer for mostly people who detached themselves of that system.
@@cy4069 not exactly true, as the supernova were the 'rookies' that entered paradise and got to sabaody in that year. Many pirates could go back to paradise with higher bounties. But yeah, most of the ones in paradise with higher bounties were warlords, and the rookies usually went to the new world. Its more like getting 100 million bounty in the first year of their crew in paradise, coupled with reaching sabaody alive.
13:25 This is why Oda is such a good writer: he has patience. If he had revelead the yonko's bounty pre-timeskip, if we got some of the major fights from the strongest characters in the series, it would over shadow the SHs narrative in the current story. This is why a lot of shonen mangas fail, because they in too much of a rush to get to the big, hype moments but Oda knows it's better to build up to them slowly so that we get do get those moments they feel so much more impactful and satisfactory
@@ReezyR Oda originally planned for the series to last 5 yeara tho so that's not entirely true, also Horikoshi said he wanted to surpass One Piece but he clearly didn't have the rythm that well planned and that's why the big fights get mixed reviews from readers for example Midoriya shouldn't be able to take down so many famous experienced villains when he's still a student, and the All Might vs AFO fight felt so plain
@@pats3212 BHA is ass so that's a terrible comparison I see ur point but mind u he didn't plan on having supernovas till we hit Shaboady Oda give himself a lot of freedom in terms of story development that's why the Haki power scaling is kinda broken or why no SH taught the other how to use it since 3 out 10 can, not adding Jinbei he also got a lot of leeway from Shueisha cus he brought them millions upon millions no mangakas take this much 2 weeks breaks than Oda n he fully deserves it but puttin his art against others is kinda disingenous, he also is the God of foreshadowing or retcon depends on ur stance. One Piece is the goat nonetheless.
The Gov downplayed Robins bounty because she was extremly young and a 8 year old with 79mil is still crazy. Big Mom got 50 mil to start at age 5. An 8 year old with a bounty of a billion is extremely suspicious. The Goverment thinks Chopper is worth a about A dollar lol Law is most likely protected by Sengoku but IDK that 5 billion is hard to justify with his bounty, but I bet Law will end up extremly important.
You could have also used Chopper's bounty as an example. He might not be the haki user, or awakened zoan user either, but he packs a punch - and him having such a low bounty for a thematic joke just proves your point even more.
Influence. His name for example “D”. Allegiance. He was active for years & found Laughtale. We don't know much character disposition of Roger so he's just a the King of the Pirates.
Here’s the TL;DR: While Oda probably doesn’t care much about the numbers, It isn’t that much of a stretch to justify even the two most problematic outliers of “wrong” bounties. While I do agree that Bounty numbers don’t really matter to Oda in the grand scheme of things, there’s a few things that can be used to justify these surprisingly “low” bounties. Pinkbeard’s bounty vs Bellamy’s bounty could just be that he had a lot more time to boost his bounty than Bellamy did. And for the 2 big inconsistencies you mentioned, that could be explained through information control. You said it yourself, if Robin’s bounty actually reflected how much of a threat the government perceived her to be, she would’ve been talked about much more at Sabaody. This, in fact, is a massive problem for the WG as her actual value would’ve probably grabbed the attention of Yonkos before she even met the straw hats, which is an automatic bad move for the WG. The existence of the Ope Ope no mi is not common knowledge and the legendary surgery is even less known. Giving a rookie pirate a bounty in the BILLIONS will grab a hell of a lot of attention from everybody and may even lead to the user themselves discovering that ability. Plus with the missed opportunity of prominent bounty hunters, it’s not like pirates or strong revolutionaries (the few forces outside of the marines strong enough to face other pirates) can turn these bounties in. So the stronger/“dangerous” the person, the more arbitrary that number becomes. At the end of the day, bounty are simply a way to get the audience excited and the actual numbers most likely don’t really matter to Oda (especially when comparing current bounties to early bounties).
@UCrvyhAS8V6GKcTiTAZBUrQw quantitative means the thing you’re talking about (bounties in this case) have numerical value. In other words, they can be counted. For example, the amount of leaves on a tree is quantitative data about the tree.
They didn’t make Robin’s bounty high as they don’t want to bring too much attention to how dangerous she really is. If they gave her a 1 Billion bounty it would raise suspicions and conversations all over the seas, the government just want to execute her silently, just like how they did with Ohara.
Thing is, that's entirely head canon. Morj mentioned it in the video. You can usually rationalize that kind of stuff, and your explanation definitely makes sense, I pretty much think the same as you, but it was never stated or even implied in the manga. They just talk about how the government wanted her so bet they put a huge bounty on her. No one ever said "actually, all things considered, it seems really low" or anything like that. The explanation that makes the most sense to me is that they wanted a bounty large enough to attract bounty hunters, but not enough that the whole world would notice. But again, nothing like that is ever mentioned in the story.
@@aaaaaa-gq3dv It is just a theory, but it's as much a theory as Morj's reasoning given in this. I'd argue that it holds the same validity as everything Morj says since it isn't any more or less logical than what he's argued.
We can always all refer to these bounties and scale it up and down if needed: Mountain Bandit = 8M (Danger to civilians) Nico Robin = 79M (Threat to WG)
Something to remember is that bounties rarely go much over 300 million. Usually, when you get that high, it becomes harder to increase it. Characters at 400-600 million are sure to be really impressive and gathered powerful crews. We may consider that, at this point, someone's bounty starts to only increase by group effort: you either command a powerful force or are a very important member of a powerful force. That's why some Straw Hat bounties increased in Dressrosa by association with Luffy rather than their own effort. The emperors have such high bounties not just because of personal strength, but because they have vast territories and legions of underlings that rival the Marine's forces. The "low" bounties of the Revolutionary commanders aren't low. They are pretty high by themselves. But the Revolutionaries aren't like an Emperor's force. They hold no territory and need to remain hidden to not be crushed by the marines. As for why Law or Luffy bounties aren't high due to their DFs alone, I believe we may explain it because an available DF is a greater resource than one that's already consumed by someone. We don't know about the specifics of how to ensure a DF reincarnates in a controlled manner. It may be a gamble. Plus, in the process of capturing a pirate, the bounty hunter may kill his target, completely making the head price worthless. Also, putting too high a price on someone's head and making it "Alive only" may make most bounty hunters just give up and not try at all, while a lower bounty may be more welcoming for assassins. If the reincarnated DF is found later, then the full bounty on it may be more alluring than putting it on a person's head.
@@user-zl6is7rb6k is this an actual question? He’s a Yonko. That speaks for itself. For Pirates, simply being able to get to the New World and survive is an achievement. He was a whole Emperor with entire territories under him, and he sat at the top of the pirate world for 2 decades after Roger’s execution 😂😂 He achieved a lot
Whitebeard let one of his crewmates die. Let Blackbeard escape twice. Didn't help Oden at all when Kaido took over his country. Couldn't save Ace and essentially died for nothing. In Akainu's words he just sat in some corner of the world and kept himself out of trouble. He lost to Roger and Garp when he was with Rocks, and he's only known for being "equal to Roger".
Why people though that marco could have a bounty over 2b when teach a yonkou is barely over it😂 it's ridiculous. Can't wait for people that think Beckman will have a 3b bounty to be disappointed 🤣
Shanks crew bounties are said to be the most 'balanced' (Navi member Branddnew) so I don't think Nr 2 and 3 in the crew will have a huge gap to shanks. This means there are indeed bounties higher than blackbeard
@@crazygamer-mr6nr I m sure Bens bounty wont be surpassing 1.5 B as Luffy who arguably has the highest bountie after the 4 emperors is called one and then you have a commander higher then that? that doesnt make any sense It tells me that Luffy should have surpassed the highest commander bountie which is either Beckman or King wich should be at 1.4 to max 1.5B
@@AstonMartinGT5 Believe me, they have a high average bounty and best balance. Beckman will definitely have more than Luffy and maybe little bit less than blackbeard.
I always thought certain 'feats' are not double counted. Similar to Trophies in PS4 -Raid a village = 5mil Berries -beat a yonko commader = 1bil berries etc. But they can never be repeated. Once you have that feat/trophy you need to do other things to increase your bounty..if not the yonkos could just keep raiding villages and boost their bounty to 10 trillion or some absurd number. When in reality they cant 'cheat' the system. Tho in the end i agree with your conclusion just a bit of head cannon
The reason why Robin's could have been so low might have been just because she was basically a defenceless child when the bounty was placed. Plus they don't necessarily want to put the info she has in the spotlight so they could be tactful on who they give big bounties. But again this is all just headcannon and the point of the video stands.
@@archaicrapture they've also hid knowledge like impel down breakout. If they were to acknowledge robin in a more meaningful way people would start asking more questions about history
@@gaeron1305 [meh] I think it's inconsistency from Oda's part. The propaganda machine works. Besides why weren't people questioning why would a child have a bounty. See it doesn't solve anything.
@@archaicrapture well yea its suspicious for a child to have 79mil but it would be crazy if someon makes the connection that she can read poneglyphs, as far as the world knows nobody can read them for centuries, Ohara taught themself to read by studying in secret for years, if this was know you think Roger and other top pirates wouldn't want to have a person from Ohara on his ship , as soon as the WG found ot that was it for them. Also not so weird a robin at 8 has 79m when Big mom had 300m at the age of 6. We don't know the whole worlds bounties there could be hundreds of kids with bounties over the centuries.
I feel the robin bounty one was to help get her noticed by regular civilians but keep her off the radar from kaido big mom etc 79 mil seemed like a thought out number to me
In my oppinion is just *FAME* or infame? Who the people know the most. Roger is the most famous so he has THE HIGEST Everyone knew Whitebeard, second higest. People in the east blue (nami, sanji) didn't know Shanks, he was the lowest bounty Yonko at that point.
Its interesting that in the one piece one shot "Romance Dawn" the gum gum fruit was priced 5 billion, is the range of yonkou's bounties at that point already set in stone?
It depends what kind of disease he had. Luffy never got really sick, he was poisoned though and developed some kind of immunity. That doesn't mean something similar to Roger can't occur and yes im sure Chopper would make a cure.
I like to think there is a pattern in the bounties. Zoro's every Bounty is more than Luffy's previous And sanji has even more than Zoro's last bounty. Ussopp and chopper are gags. And stuff
I agree that Oda is most likely placing bounties relative to the part of the story. But regarding Robin's bounty when she was a child, I think 79 million is a sufficient bounty. Remember, you yourself said that bounty also kind of reflect strength. So what could a child like Robin even be capable? Putting 79 million makes sense since under normal circumstances a child would die surviving that life. A higher bounty would just raise intrigue and bring more traction to the incident. Also Robin alone could not go to a poneglyph, that's why she needed people like Crocodile and Luffy. Thus, Robin's bounty will only truly rise when she is enabled to read poneglyphs. That's why for me Robin's bounty before makes sense since she can't reach a poneglyph and read it. But now that she's in the strawhats and they are bringing her to the poneglyphs, her bounty should have skyrocketed and it isn't so this is the one that truly does not make sense.
Here are some of the factors I've always thought were considered, in no particular order: Strength, for obvious reasons. Being able to fight is important for pirates. Renown/infamy, which also includes what they have done. As you said, some pirates don't get much credit for certain things that stay hidden, but also some pirates like Buggy are able to coast on weaker strength if they have the name recognition. Threat to the world government, since they are the ones who are setting the bounties after all. While that doesn't mesh as well with Robin and some of the Revolutionary Army's possible threats, it's still important. Connections and manpower are actually an interesting one. Yeah, some pirate crews are only a handful like the Strawhats, but plenty of others have a bunch of low level grunts. Those grunts probably don't have an official bounty, but probably still add to how important the officers and captain who leads them.
I’d argue that “relations” is a big factor as well. Some people might get an inflated bounty, just by virtue of being in someone’s crew and having status in it. Like maybe if Karakuri were just a random pirate, being judged on his on merits, he’d only reach a “meager” 500-700 million bounty. But because he is the right hand man of BM, his value skyrockets. Maybe due to potential intel or structural influence in BMS crew, he gets past a billion. Also, maybe “noise” is really big for these calculations as well. I don’t think the Government wants people to be aware just how dangerous, some of the criminals are. We know the government constantly censors anything that either might make them look bad or might encourage imitators. They’ve done it to the strawhats, ever since Luffy bested Crocodile. So, maybe in he new world there exists some guy with the strength of an admiral, who’s total bounty is below 200 millions. But since all he does is challenge individuals to fights in private locations, there is no reason to draw too much attention to him. And Luffy’s bounty might have been inflated after EniesLobby, because there is no way, one could hide this from the world. So he got an even higher one, just to show the world that they are trying to catch the rubber guy.
Robin really only escaped a buster call and knew how to read poneglyphs which was why she was wanted... She had 79m berries on her head since age 8... She has been running away since then never doing anything to be noticed... Thus her bounty never changed
Okay In short every character has his own reason for his high bounty. Some bcus of strength some bcus of reputation some bcus of information and some even bcus of intellect but all these reasons are used to measure their approx threat level.
The Milkmaid defeating Pinkbeard is a testament to the power of Bello Betty's fruit. That's probably why she's the face of the Revolutionary army, and has the highest bounty among the commanders
The way that you explain how Oda uses bounties in One Piece is very meta and I agree with many of the points raised, but I think it would also be interesting to look at bounties as they are: bounties. A character's notoriety. That, cobbled with the fact that it is the World Government who decide these numbers also means there are certain biases that come with choosing these bounties. A character's bounty may be low because while the World Government wants to keep it low for any scummy reason they'd want. Robin, for instance, could've had a "low" bounty because the World Government didn't want people to know how special she was, that she knows something that the public shouldn't. That's why she was branded a demon child as well as numerous other rumors spreading of everything BUT the fact that she knew about ancient history.
Very true. To the public Robins bounty came from sinking 6 Marine battle Ships and a suspect for trying to destroy the world with the ancient weapons. Even though Robin is a scholar who simply wishes to learn the truth of the world.
why should it go up at all? lmfao chopper saved people´s lives left and right with his antidote, they´re gonna erase his bounty and replace it with a new bounty to save him and not to imprison him lol
@MrMorj I thought it was said that Kidd only wounded a sweet commander and which one wasn't named. Wasn't Urouge the one who defeated Snack? Think Kidd's wiki also says "wounded"
Morj really out here underestimating the strength of milkmaids. Have you ever lifted a bunch of milk cans and carried them around an entire village? Moda is probs lowkey the strongest person in the village.
Grandline reviews made a video on what Robin's true bounty should be and it felt quite right the number he concluded according to what it would make sense if Oda applied real logic given his own world building when it comes to the world government.
Good take. But for me, I don't feel that the bounty being revealed right now are even inconsistent. I do agree that Oda hands out bounty kind of relative to the story because, aside from your point, of course when starting it out he may not yet have decided the ceiling of bounties. However, I do believe that he is accurate or precise when giving out bounties for major playing characters. The revolutionary officers are people who accumulated these bounty NOT in the grand line. They were in the blues and managed to accumulate bounties higher than 200 mil+. Luffy only had 30 mil going out of east blue and that was big for the east blue. As for Sabo and Marco, it is always like these for subordinates. Even if Whitebeard had a 5bil on his head or Dragon be revealed to have 4bil, it is still reasonable for their second in command to accumulate low bounty. Look at Luffy's 1.5 bil and Zoro's 300 mil and you can see this with every other pirate crews where the captain has a very high gap in bounty between their subordinates. Details like this even makes it possible for someone like Blackbeard to have 0 bounty despite being on board Whitebeard's ship for more than a decade.
Chapter 320. Aokiji says : " The size of your bounty does not only reflect the threat your combat abilities pose. It also gives to show how dangerous you are to the government" So bounty is a combination of both strength and other threat factors. I thought this was obvious to the community but I'm so surprised that many people think strength has nothing to do with bounty.
I really like the point on media and what is publicized influencing the bounties. Kidd's example is a very apt one. Also, one can argue that downplaying certain people and setting their bounties lower can help contain fear too. Maybe revolutionary bounties set as lower are also a way of saying that they are not as dangerous or capable of opposing the government as rumours may say. Just another way to control people's minds and ways of thinking.
Or could be Oda just having fun while not being too unreasonable. OP Bounty indeed has a correlation with influence and power level but sometimes Oda just love's his puns.
The Final two strawhat will be and mark my words , Yamato , and Marco , Yamato is obvious , and we were specifically told about the payback war and Marco lost there , I cannot imagine Marco just being ignored with what Blackbeard did to him and his family , and we know that Blackbeard will be one of the last opponent and I don't think Oda will just ignore such a important character after onigashima
hey morj - love your videos just was curious as to this line: "as we all know, capturing a devil fruit user and killing them gives you the fruit" i did not know this - perhaps read through too quickly. can you (or someone else in the comments) remind me where to find this piece of info? thanks!
Pink beard had a pretty big crew I think that's why his bounty was so high on top of black beard associations and pilageing, he also isn't any where near superhuman so he could get his shit rocked by a blunt object easy.
The revolutionary army is always covet. Dragon probably gets his bounty from his past, not just him being a part of the revolutionary army. I am willing to wager that it also related to what he knows.
Also i have to add one more point regarding ,we don't know how it went but sabo and co fought with fujitora and greenbull (WG strongest military powerhouses) that speaks volumes about how underrated rev bounties are.
While i agree with you, there are potentially good reasons for lower than expected bounties. In the case of specific devil fruit users i suspect its because it's a whole lot easier to track a person than a devil fruit. Fruits can potentially reincarnate anywhere, and are small. Finding specific ones can be a MASSIVE undertaking. Where as finding a user with said devil fruit is usually a matter of time. If you know how a df generally functions, then if you hear about or see a person with similar abilities you can send cp agents to confirm. In the case of Robin, it could be a matter of not providing the wrong king of attention. Df's exist and there are several crews with kid members. Roger and Alvida come to mind. So it's not inconceivable that a child can sink a battleship. On the other hand, if someone goes from nothing to ten figures that will attract the kind of attention the government doesn't want. Mainly Yonko. They all probably have information networks and there are only so many reasons that the government would want someone badly enough for such a massive bounty.
Bounty’s are threat to government and society not how strong a character is Same reason why dragon is worse criminal because he directly opposes the govt and same reason why mihawk prolly has a low bounty
I feel everything does at the time of deciding the bounty of some characters. Not only your point, which I believe is correct, but also that the system itself isn't perfect, as you also said at the start. Because, honeslty, that's how these things work(ed) in real life too: the WG has SO MANY THINGS to think about and get busy with, that I doubt they can stop and analyze every little case out there, especially considering those are usually in the moving, so they'd have to think about all the criteria they have aaaall the time. That's crazy! Yes, maybe Robin is the exception to that, but then we can understand that Oda prefers a more satisfying narration than a more "realistic" system, as this video argues.
while ur right about Robin, I feel like it also kinda makes sense cause they want Robin but they don’t want to bring a ridiculous amount of attention to her cause then Yonkos might invest way more into taking her for themselves at least when we are introduced to her.
Let's not forget the fact that Chopper had such a low bounty on him out of all the Strawhats, not because he was weak, it's because of a misunderstanding that he was thier pet.
Three is also the factor of personal motivations. Remember Luffy got his first bounty because that ratlike marine was pissed off at him personally and requested a bounty be put on his head. It's feasible that some pirates(like pinkbeard abnd krieg) have a higher/lower bounty because they have/haven't been reported
The problem with "maybe they're not that well known" is the fact that they are known at all. Just being a high ranking officer in the revolutionary army should put them way up the wanted list. Especially if they're trusted by Dragon. These are people that could have important information about the most wanted man in the world and they have what can only be described as a "pre-timeskip" bounty.
Yeah but how many of the Goverment know about it? Also, do they really want to put so many people going for them who could be manipulated by the informations they uphold? If we look at it, Revolutionary Army do most of it's things underground and in secret, WE know how much they know, but we know that cause wr are watching/reading. We can't tell how much the Goverment actually knows about all of them
Just being a high ranking officer in the revolutionary army should put them way up the wanted list and it has but it would not put them anywhere close to a yonko commander the 200,000 to 400,000 is a huge bounty for just being a officer and not really publicly doing stuff the commanders of the yonko have spent decades actively and brazenly fighting the marines the revolutionaries mostly run hide and do hit and run i would also add the officers other then sabo...do not come off as that strong im not seeing karasu facing off against a warlord a admiral or a yonko commander
Or perhaps there was some crazy inflation for the 2 years of time skip and 50 million bounty is equal to a 5-20 million pre time skip. Or perhaps Pinkbeard could be like Buggy - has powerful officers to compensate for his own weakness. Or it could be a combination of both.
For me it makes sense that Pink Beard has 52M even if he is weak. He is part of BB army after all. Rock Star, who was new member in Shanks's crew, had 94M. Ofcourse someone will have higher bounty if he is member of Yonko army.
The fact that Ace never knew Sabo was alive supports the argument that the Revolutionary Commanders are simply more covert in their operations and less talked about because they're not the ringleader. They don't go into massive publicized standoffs where commanders flashily block the path of anyone who wants to fight their leader, like how most arcs go. They get the job done and then dip.
but what about the opposite.. You'd think the revolutionaries would be aware of ace getting captured and due to for exceution.. But i guess you could make the argument that sabo was conveniently not around to read/hear about that paper
edit: stop telling me sabo didnt have memories, i know this, i literally state it a few comments below..
@@RikXtreme4 We could also say they never wanted to reveal this info fearing Sabo would try to fo something and ruin their plans or end up ruining some kind of operation
It’s called inconsistency
@@vcamv2354 ....but they wouldnt know any connection of sabo and ace, because sabo at that time would not even be aware of it..
@@RikXtreme4 Sabo still lived with Luffy and Ace pior to that, thry are the Revolutionary Army, if Ivankov and Kuma knew about Luffy, which, from what we saw, was given to Garp very early, they could've know about Ace and Sabo's connection. We were shown that Dragon kinda keeps track of Luffy's actions before. And, one big point, the story is not over so we can still get an explanation
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I mean... its manga.
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Robin's bounty makes sense in the context it was issued. Imagine being an ordinary person looking at a bounty board and seeing 500 million on a 8 year old's poster. That gets people talking and questioning things the WG really doesn't want anyone diving into. 79 is just high enough that it incentivizes people to go after her but not too high that it starts raising suspicions around the world
And to add on to your comment, Robin's low bounty will avoid people discovering the existence of the poneglyphs and the true history, which is what the WG would want.
True.
Not only would a 500 million berri bounty on a 8 year old girl make people suspicions But, it would also make people scared, and run away with terror. Just how Big Mom got a higher bounty then Nico Robin at an even younger age, because she was extremely dangerous, and not a criminal that bounty hunters can reasonably take out. No civilian ever opposed Big Mom, and no Bounty hunter ever dared to fight her. So, a 79 million bounty for Robin, does make sense in hindsight because it is pretty high, but definitely not too high from an in world perspective.
I agree with what you're saying. But I do still think it should have been a bit higher. At least over 100mill. Because I can imagine there were probably some strong bounty hunters who don't get out of bed unless the bounty is a certain level.
same with law... the fact that his fruit is so valuable is a secret
edit: and the price a one off of sorts, or atleast only revealed to somebody that has the fruit in his posession
@@captainmarvelous7678 Yeah. That's possible. It's too bad, that we've never seen badass bounty hunters like that in the cannon.
Cipher Pol is on the way to get Mr Morj...he knows too much!!
Morj is probably the one who taught the guard about Sun God Nika
His cam guy is the infiltrator…. They almost pulled the cord after the “red line will be destroyed” video
😂😂😂
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Buster call on his black beard.
My thoughts on Robin's bounty:
The WG wants a bounty for her that was high enough for ordinary people to be interested but not high enough to attract the attention of the other big powers. Maybe.
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure this one was stated somewhere in the story.
Yeah that's the theory right now
Morley having the lowest makes sense since he has a power that lets him hide underground
Betty having the highest makes sense because she's the most vocal and openly rebellious with her cheering fruit
Plus it would've been frozen while he was imprisoned in impel down
Is this the legendary oof? God bless
@@ajdoku865 wouldn't him escaping make it go higher
@@ofimportance5458 it would if not for the WGs agenda, the same reason they official hid the fact any level 6 prisoners escaped
So many comments, start a channel already
conclusion: milk maid on steroids should have 100 mil bounty
"Yeah, feels about right" - Oda in his office
Pinkbeard just overrated just how Chopper is Underated
Maybe marketing yourself as “[Insert color] Beard” automatically sets your bounty at 50k off of association with Blackbeard.
pinkbeard, whitebeard, blackbeard, brownbeard
Lol
Waiting for an Okama named Rainbowbeard
Bounties at least have the built-in protection of being assigned by flawed humans. Some people have high bounties due to being sensationalized. Some because they're political targets. Some have low bounties for similar reasons, etc. I don't think every bounty needs to be carefully explained by a character so long as there's enough room for some rationalization. They're bounties, after all, not scientific analysis. Criminals can never be caught just as easily as they can be more wanted than they ought be.
so long
Imagine someone like Garp deciding a bounty vs someone like Spanda.
Yes. The inconsistencies make it MORE realistic.
Damn I didn't realize you were into one piece, or that you watched Mr. Morj Gripes. I love your content bro, especially your criticisms but I don't mind your drawings either. Keep it up.
Good to see grips is on the topic.
You could justify Robin's low bounty to the fact that it would be really crazy for the WG to issue billions for a little child, no matter how much of a threat she is. It would tell the world that WG is scared of one small girl for some reason. People would naturally question it way more than ever.
Thats true but now she is apart if the strawhat pirates and she is a woman now. And she is one of, if not the biggest threat to the WG
If that was the reason then they should've changed it by now, specially since we have other members in the same crew as her with bounties above 300,000,000 and so hers wouldn't even feel that weird. I think it's just a logical hole that we have to shrug off like Morj said.
But they have big mom a huge bounty when she was a kid?
@@userusernomi yeah, Robin really should have close to a billion bounty for what she can do. Since she is a notorious pirate in a very notorious crew, high bounty like that would be normal.
@@glueonroachbro I think that is because she actively caused destruction and the physique to justify that bounty. You would be hard pressed to call her a kid even at age 11.
In short: The bounty controversy will end in failure.
Morj will get assassinated he knows too much about the future of one piece 🤣
😂😂😂 every time my thought after he uploads a video 😂
Yeah, considering oda has more than enough money to do that
@@imanafandy6607 🤣🤣🤣
MrMorj has not killed himself
Too*
I think Oda did say that Pirates are scaled up for their association with an Emperor. That would be an explanation for pinkbeard. But yeah your point still stands.
Not even an empreror. Remember that half of the Straw Hats had their bounties raised just by assosiaction, despite not being Dressrosa for most of the arc.
Bounty is what the marine sees not what we see.
Pinkbeard was willing to go after Celestial Tributes in the countries he raided. The WG would take FAR more issue with that than just him attacking civilians.
IRC, only the last 2 levels of Impel Down has prisoners with bounties higher than 100 mil, which is wild to me
to be fair, Impel Down's structure actually makes it so the lower levels are larger than the higher levels. Level 5 has more space in it than Level 4, for instance.
That makes sense though. The majority of pirates are in the four blues, and it’s only really established New World pirates who have bounties that high.
For example, there were only 11 pirates with a bounty higher than 100 mil berry in the entirety of Paradise as of the Sabaody arc.
@@dingochungis6814 and to be even more fair I don't think that those who have over 500million bounties will stay long in there as they are mostly backed up by the Yonko and are overall a high thread. They should be executed in no time. Overall imprisoning is such a weird thing for outlaws, as it will just consume some of the taxes the civilians have to offer for mostly people who detached themselves of that system.
@@crosis2 it creates a threat worse thsn death for pirates
@@cy4069 not exactly true, as the supernova were the 'rookies' that entered paradise and got to sabaody in that year. Many pirates could go back to paradise with higher bounties. But yeah, most of the ones in paradise with higher bounties were warlords, and the rookies usually went to the new world. Its more like getting 100 million bounty in the first year of their crew in paradise, coupled with reaching sabaody alive.
13:25 This is why Oda is such a good writer: he has patience. If he had revelead the yonko's bounty pre-timeskip, if we got some of the major fights from the strongest characters in the series, it would over shadow the SHs narrative in the current story. This is why a lot of shonen mangas fail, because they in too much of a rush to get to the big, hype moments but Oda knows it's better to build up to them slowly so that we get do get those moments they feel so much more impactful and satisfactory
Oda also had 20 years of build up for this moment most mangakas get 3 months the supply is way over the demand n editors are succubus
@@ReezyR Oda originally planned for the series to last 5 yeara tho so that's not entirely true, also Horikoshi said he wanted to surpass One Piece but he clearly didn't have the rythm that well planned and that's why the big fights get mixed reviews from readers for example Midoriya shouldn't be able to take down so many famous experienced villains when he's still a student, and the All Might vs AFO fight felt so plain
@@pats3212 BHA is ass so that's a terrible comparison I see ur point but mind u he didn't plan on having supernovas till we hit Shaboady Oda give himself a lot of freedom in terms of story development that's why the Haki power scaling is kinda broken or why no SH taught the other how to use it since 3 out 10 can, not adding Jinbei he also got a lot of leeway from Shueisha cus he brought them millions upon millions no mangakas take this much 2 weeks breaks than Oda n he fully deserves it but puttin his art against others is kinda disingenous, he also is the God of foreshadowing or retcon depends on ur stance. One Piece is the goat nonetheless.
Bounties dosent tell what we know about the character it tells what the government knows.
Except for Nico Robin and Law. Their bounties really don't make a lot of sense in hindsight.
@@Mani_Katti Even Franky. He literally had the blueprint (and probably memorize it in sleep) and it's obvious the guy is a genius inventor.
@@elyas4637 The government doesn't know how much he knows though.
In case of Robin and Law, the government knows exactly what they should be worth.
The Gov downplayed Robins bounty because she was extremly young and a 8 year old with 79mil is still crazy.
Big Mom got 50 mil to start at age 5.
An 8 year old with a bounty of a billion is extremely suspicious.
The Goverment thinks Chopper is worth a about A dollar lol
Law is most likely protected by Sengoku but IDK that 5 billion is hard to justify with his bounty, but I bet Law will end up extremly important.
@@LichardD yeah but what about know
Mr Morj's bounty : 122, 000, 000 Berries
You could have also used Chopper's bounty as an example. He might not be the haki user, or awakened zoan user either, but he packs a punch - and him having such a low bounty for a thematic joke just proves your point even more.
He's just a joke for Oda
Have u ever met Joke Character
He may still require a rumble ball to get into it, but chopper's monster point is totally the awakened form.
@@bleacheman i wouldn't say that Chopper is a joke character
@@pamelaguerra3768 in terms of bounty, Oda was smoking weed, when was thinking about Chopper's bounty
Influence is also a big point of bounty level. Thats why rogers bounty is so high too not only power but infuence
Thats wrong though. Roger didn't have any influence. Just power. Roger didn't have a following of any kind. He didn't have an empire or any alliances.
Influence. His name for example “D”. Allegiance. He was active for years & found Laughtale. We don't know much character disposition of Roger so he's just a the King of the Pirates.
@@emperorluffy6001 he was called king of the pirates over his influence
he was the entire inspiration for a generation of pirates
@@emperorluffy6001 the reason many went to sea was beacuse of roger
@@scottgrasser9737 yes thats right
Here’s the TL;DR:
While Oda probably doesn’t care much about the numbers, It isn’t that much of a stretch to justify even the two most problematic outliers of “wrong” bounties.
While I do agree that Bounty numbers don’t really matter to Oda in the grand scheme of things, there’s a few things that can be used to justify these surprisingly “low” bounties. Pinkbeard’s bounty vs Bellamy’s bounty could just be that he had a lot more time to boost his bounty than Bellamy did.
And for the 2 big inconsistencies you mentioned, that could be explained through information control. You said it yourself, if Robin’s bounty actually reflected how much of a threat the government perceived her to be, she would’ve been talked about much more at Sabaody. This, in fact, is a massive problem for the WG as her actual value would’ve probably grabbed the attention of Yonkos before she even met the straw hats, which is an automatic bad move for the WG.
The existence of the Ope Ope no mi is not common knowledge and the legendary surgery is even less known. Giving a rookie pirate a bounty in the BILLIONS will grab a hell of a lot of attention from everybody and may even lead to the user themselves discovering that ability.
Plus with the missed opportunity of prominent bounty hunters, it’s not like pirates or strong revolutionaries (the few forces outside of the marines strong enough to face other pirates) can turn these bounties in. So the stronger/“dangerous” the person, the more arbitrary that number becomes.
At the end of the day, bounty are simply a way to get the audience excited and the actual numbers most likely don’t really matter to Oda (especially when comparing current bounties to early bounties).
Mostly all bountys are for the pun or something about the character
Not really
Yeah he is not wrong that's part of it took.
True, but it's the fact that bounties are inherently quantitative that's being explored.
@UCrvyhAS8V6GKcTiTAZBUrQw quantitative means the thing you’re talking about (bounties in this case) have numerical value. In other words, they can be counted.
For example, the amount of leaves on a tree is quantitative data about the tree.
@@kentkristianhansen229 not most but for the yonko they are all jokes or related to their names. Im sure luffy final bounty will be one as well.
Plot twist: Pink Beard's bounty is correct and that milk maid is secretly super strong from all the handwork and carrying buckets of milk
They didn’t make Robin’s bounty high as they don’t want to bring too much attention to how dangerous she really is. If they gave her a 1 Billion bounty it would raise suspicions and conversations all over the seas, the government just want to execute her silently, just like how they did with Ohara.
Thing is, that's entirely head canon. Morj mentioned it in the video. You can usually rationalize that kind of stuff, and your explanation definitely makes sense, I pretty much think the same as you, but it was never stated or even implied in the manga.
They just talk about how the government wanted her so bet they put a huge bounty on her. No one ever said "actually, all things considered, it seems really low" or anything like that.
The explanation that makes the most sense to me is that they wanted a bounty large enough to attract bounty hunters, but not enough that the whole world would notice. But again, nothing like that is ever mentioned in the story.
@@aaaaaa-gq3dv It is just a theory, but it's as much a theory as Morj's reasoning given in this. I'd argue that it holds the same validity as everything Morj says since it isn't any more or less logical than what he's argued.
@@PrimeofPerfection
I don't really understand your point.
I'm just saying that while Poku Banks's explanation makes sense, it's not actually canon.
We can always all refer to these bounties and scale it up and down if needed:
Mountain Bandit = 8M (Danger to civilians)
Nico Robin = 79M (Threat to WG)
don't forget any association to party who caused major incident get a fifty million increase
@Azphalazl Seprimanium excluding chopper who only got a fifty berry increase
Im wasn't trying to eliminate vivi for being a threat to the series.
It's Morj
Something to remember is that bounties rarely go much over 300 million. Usually, when you get that high, it becomes harder to increase it. Characters at 400-600 million are sure to be really impressive and gathered powerful crews. We may consider that, at this point, someone's bounty starts to only increase by group effort: you either command a powerful force or are a very important member of a powerful force. That's why some Straw Hat bounties increased in Dressrosa by association with Luffy rather than their own effort. The emperors have such high bounties not just because of personal strength, but because they have vast territories and legions of underlings that rival the Marine's forces.
The "low" bounties of the Revolutionary commanders aren't low. They are pretty high by themselves. But the Revolutionaries aren't like an Emperor's force. They hold no territory and need to remain hidden to not be crushed by the marines.
As for why Law or Luffy bounties aren't high due to their DFs alone, I believe we may explain it because an available DF is a greater resource than one that's already consumed by someone. We don't know about the specifics of how to ensure a DF reincarnates in a controlled manner. It may be a gamble. Plus, in the process of capturing a pirate, the bounty hunter may kill his target, completely making the head price worthless. Also, putting too high a price on someone's head and making it "Alive only" may make most bounty hunters just give up and not try at all, while a lower bounty may be more welcoming for assassins. If the reincarnated DF is found later, then the full bounty on it may be more alluring than putting it on a person's head.
Your videos are a treat as always. Thanks for the bounty breakdown!
Bounty: Threat and Prestige.
Threat: How much of a hinders to the WG
Prestige: Recognition and "Achievements"
what did wb achieve ?
@@user-zl6is7rb6k yonkos rival WG
@@user-zl6is7rb6k is this an actual question? He’s a Yonko. That speaks for itself. For Pirates, simply being able to get to the New World and survive is an achievement. He was a whole Emperor with entire territories under him, and he sat at the top of the pirate world for 2 decades after Roger’s execution 😂😂 He achieved a lot
Whitebeard let one of his crewmates die. Let Blackbeard escape twice. Didn't help Oden at all when Kaido took over his country. Couldn't save Ace and essentially died for nothing. In Akainu's words he just sat in some corner of the world and kept himself out of trouble. He lost to Roger and Garp when he was with Rocks, and he's only known for being "equal to Roger".
I was surprised that he didn't show these bounties when the commanders were introduced as a way to build hype for them.
Should’ve shown Marco’s bounty when he arrived in Wano
because showing that they're low would remove hype from them
Takes everything from the characters reveals & the setting wasn't perfect.
@@eVill420 It would not have been low at the time.
@@clairerin5167 revolutionary commanders were revealed after WCI dude
6:45 According to Brulee it was only Urouge that defeated a general. Kid kinda just passed by and injured them.
@Eustass D. CAPTAIN Kidd lol ok..
@Eustass D. CAPTAIN Kidd what? It was NEVER stated lol
Even he didn’t say he beat one just injured
When the video is so fire you have to put two of the hottest devil fruit users in the thumbnail.
2 of the coolest DFs in the series
No cap
Why people though that marco could have a bounty over 2b when teach a yonkou is barely over it😂 it's ridiculous. Can't wait for people that think Beckman will have a 3b bounty to be disappointed 🤣
I think Beckman will have a 1.4-1.5 billion bounty
They said his power is almost equal as shanks. And I think teach only has 2 billion because he hasn’t been a yonko for that long.
Shanks crew bounties are said to be the most 'balanced' (Navi member Branddnew) so I don't think Nr 2 and 3 in the crew will have a huge gap to shanks. This means there are indeed bounties higher than blackbeard
@@crazygamer-mr6nr I m sure Bens bounty wont be surpassing 1.5 B as Luffy who arguably has the highest bountie after the 4 emperors is called one and then you have a commander higher then that? that doesnt make any sense It tells me that Luffy should have surpassed the highest commander bountie which is either Beckman or King wich should be at 1.4 to max 1.5B
@@AstonMartinGT5 Believe me, they have a high average bounty and best balance. Beckman will definitely have more than Luffy and maybe little bit less than blackbeard.
I always thought certain 'feats' are not double counted. Similar to Trophies in PS4
-Raid a village = 5mil Berries
-beat a yonko commader = 1bil berries etc.
But they can never be repeated. Once you have that feat/trophy you need to do other things to increase your bounty..if not the yonkos could just keep raiding villages and boost their bounty to 10 trillion or some absurd number. When in reality they cant 'cheat' the system.
Tho in the end i agree with your conclusion just a bit of head cannon
Great video! It was very informative and I agree with all you had said.
I think that is one of the best videos I watched related to the bounties in One Piece. Congrats!
The reason why Robin's could have been so low might have been just because she was basically a defenceless child when the bounty was placed. Plus they don't necessarily want to put the info she has in the spotlight so they could be tactful on who they give big bounties. But again this is all just headcannon and the point of the video stands.
Yeah all of the yonko would have gone after her just out of curiosity
They kinda committed genocide for information to get out. There's no reason why Robin & Law's bounties are low. It's one of those things.
@@archaicrapture they've also hid knowledge like impel down breakout. If they were to acknowledge robin in a more meaningful way people would start asking more questions about history
@@gaeron1305 [meh] I think it's inconsistency from Oda's part. The propaganda machine works. Besides why weren't people questioning why would a child have a bounty. See it doesn't solve anything.
@@archaicrapture well yea its suspicious for a child to have 79mil but it would be crazy if someon makes the connection that she can read poneglyphs, as far as the world knows nobody can read them for centuries, Ohara taught themself to read by studying in secret for years, if this was know you think Roger and other top pirates wouldn't want to have a person from Ohara on his ship , as soon as the WG found ot that was it for them. Also not so weird a robin at 8 has 79m when Big mom had 300m at the age of 6. We don't know the whole worlds bounties there could be hundreds of kids with bounties over the centuries.
I feel the robin bounty one was to help get her noticed by regular civilians but keep her off the radar from kaido big mom etc 79 mil seemed like a thought out number to me
Great vid, I tried to get a similar point across around Kids Bounty in one of my videos but you’ve explained it so much more clearly.
In my oppinion is just *FAME* or infame?
Who the people know the most.
Roger is the most famous so he has THE HIGEST
Everyone knew Whitebeard, second higest.
People in the east blue (nami, sanji) didn't know Shanks, he was the lowest bounty Yonko at that point.
I think it’s fame and power level
I think is a combination of reputation (fame) + perceived strength + the danger he poses to the government
Influence and notoriety
Threat level to society/Government, Perceived strength, influence, infamy/notoriety
Another banger my man
Kid didn't defeat a sweet general he injured one of them. But Uroje defeated one of them (maybe the one Kid injured).
Its interesting that in the one piece one shot "Romance Dawn" the gum gum fruit was priced 5 billion, is the range of yonkou's bounties at that point already set in stone?
Hold on, is that true?? Holy shit
@@suprakarlosalpha2262 Yeah its true exactly the same price as Law's fruit
@@TheTraleur this is huge info lol let's see what happens with who's who
Watch when Luffy gets Roger´s disease and Chopper´s the only one who can cure him. His bounty is gonna sky rocket
It depends what kind of disease he had. Luffy never got really sick, he was poisoned though and developed some kind of immunity. That doesn't mean something similar to Roger can't occur and yes im sure Chopper would make a cure.
Luffy doesn't have to have the exact same life as Roger.
Yup. A 1000 berries. Worth 2 Takoyaki's I guees.
I fucking hate that theory, luffy shouldnt be the next "roger" just next "pirate king"
@@derekwalter4238 If he gets cured, its not the same thing
Great analysis!!
I like to think there is a pattern in the bounties.
Zoro's every Bounty is more than Luffy's previous
And sanji has even more than Zoro's last bounty.
Ussopp and chopper are gags.
And stuff
That hasn't been the case for a while tho. At least with zoro and luffy
dressrosa luffys previous bounty was 400 and zoro went to 320
@@Waves2299
Zoro's 1st bounty - 60 mill ( luffy's 1st bounty 30 mill)
Zoro's 2nd bounty - 120 mill ( Luffy's 2nd bounty - 100 mill)
Zoro's 3rd bounty - 320 mill ( Luffy's 3rd bounty - 300 mill)
Sanji's 1st bounty - 77 mill ( Zoro's 1st bounty - 60 mill )
Sanji's 2nd bounty - 177 mill ( Zoro's 2nd bounty - 120 mil)
Sanji's 3rd bounty - 330 mill ( Zoro's 3rd bounty - 320 mill )
The pattern has not changed till now.
@@RR-kl4qy if by now you mean dressrosa 6 years ago then sure
@@RR-kl4qy so you think post wano sanji will have a higher bounty than zoro?
I agree that Oda is most likely placing bounties relative to the part of the story. But regarding Robin's bounty when she was a child, I think 79 million is a sufficient bounty. Remember, you yourself said that bounty also kind of reflect strength. So what could a child like Robin even be capable? Putting 79 million makes sense since under normal circumstances a child would die surviving that life. A higher bounty would just raise intrigue and bring more traction to the incident. Also Robin alone could not go to a poneglyph, that's why she needed people like Crocodile and Luffy. Thus, Robin's bounty will only truly rise when she is enabled to read poneglyphs. That's why for me Robin's bounty before makes sense since she can't reach a poneglyph and read it. But now that she's in the strawhats and they are bringing her to the poneglyphs, her bounty should have skyrocketed and it isn't so this is the one that truly does not make sense.
Nah, it still makes sense. The Strawhats are not actively pursuing the poneglyphs, atleast not that the WG knows of.
Hello Morj! Thanks for the video! Have a great day!
Ayyyyye new video
Here are some of the factors I've always thought were considered, in no particular order:
Strength, for obvious reasons. Being able to fight is important for pirates.
Renown/infamy, which also includes what they have done. As you said, some pirates don't get much credit for certain things that stay hidden, but also some pirates like Buggy are able to coast on weaker strength if they have the name recognition.
Threat to the world government, since they are the ones who are setting the bounties after all. While that doesn't mesh as well with Robin and some of the Revolutionary Army's possible threats, it's still important.
Connections and manpower are actually an interesting one. Yeah, some pirate crews are only a handful like the Strawhats, but plenty of others have a bunch of low level grunts. Those grunts probably don't have an official bounty, but probably still add to how important the officers and captain who leads them.
I’d argue that “relations” is a big factor as well.
Some people might get an inflated bounty, just by virtue of being in someone’s crew and having status in it.
Like maybe if Karakuri were just a random pirate, being judged on his on merits, he’d only reach a “meager” 500-700 million bounty. But because he is the right hand man of BM, his value skyrockets. Maybe due to potential intel or structural influence in BMS crew, he gets past a billion.
Also, maybe “noise” is really big for these calculations as well.
I don’t think the Government wants people to be aware just how dangerous, some of the criminals are. We know the government constantly censors anything that either might make them look bad or might encourage imitators. They’ve done it to the strawhats, ever since Luffy bested Crocodile. So, maybe in he new world there exists some guy with the strength of an admiral, who’s total bounty is below 200 millions. But since all he does is challenge individuals to fights in private locations, there is no reason to draw too much attention to him. And Luffy’s bounty might have been inflated after EniesLobby, because there is no way, one could hide this from the world. So he got an even higher one, just to show the world that they are trying to catch the rubber guy.
Even though I know most of them, listening to u is still a pleasure ✌️
Feel sorry for Brannew he works out all these bounties only for no bounty hunters to try and hunt for them
"Roger was not 'kind hearted', he like killed off Squardos entire crew"
Robin really only escaped a buster call and knew how to read poneglyphs which was why she was wanted... She had 79m berries on her head since age 8...
She has been running away since then never doing anything to be noticed... Thus her bounty never changed
Okay In short every character has his own reason for his high bounty. Some bcus of strength some bcus of reputation some bcus of information and some even bcus of intellect but all these reasons are used to measure their approx threat level.
The Milkmaid defeating Pinkbeard is a testament to the power of Bello Betty's fruit. That's probably why she's the face of the Revolutionary army, and has the highest bounty among the commanders
Great vid. I’m still underwhelmed by how low the bounties of the revolutionaries... and impressed by how high Izo’s bounty is
The way that you explain how Oda uses bounties in One Piece is very meta and I agree with many of the points raised, but I think it would also be interesting to look at bounties as they are: bounties. A character's notoriety. That, cobbled with the fact that it is the World Government who decide these numbers also means there are certain biases that come with choosing these bounties. A character's bounty may be low because while the World Government wants to keep it low for any scummy reason they'd want. Robin, for instance, could've had a "low" bounty because the World Government didn't want people to know how special she was, that she knows something that the public shouldn't. That's why she was branded a demon child as well as numerous other rumors spreading of everything BUT the fact that she knew about ancient history.
Very true. To the public Robins bounty came from sinking 6 Marine battle Ships and a suspect for trying to destroy the world with the ancient weapons. Even though Robin is a scholar who simply wishes to learn the truth of the world.
Great point about narrative progression, I feel like a lot of people overlook this concept.
Oda is such a bully to Chopper that by the end of Wano, his bounty will go up only to $150 or $200 lmao 😂
why should it go up at all? lmfao
chopper saved people´s lives left and right with his antidote, they´re gonna erase his bounty and replace it with a new bounty to save him and not to imprison him lol
I’d be suprised if it goes up at all 😂
So far his most impressive showing was “holding off” queen but who knows
It's just a gag.
@MrMorj I thought it was said that Kidd only wounded a sweet commander and which one wasn't named. Wasn't Urouge the one who defeated Snack? Think Kidd's wiki also says "wounded"
Morj really out here underestimating the strength of milkmaids. Have you ever lifted a bunch of milk cans and carried them around an entire village?
Moda is probs lowkey the strongest person in the village.
honey wake up, new morj video dropped
Never actually connected the fact that the OP-OP fruit price and Law's bounty. As always excellent video mr.morj
"So if you enjoyed this video..."
Morj, I enjoy every video
I like how the bounties often give us or imply info we don’t already know or teach us about the world or characters.
Grandline reviews made a video on what Robin's true bounty should be and it felt quite right the number he concluded according to what it would make sense if Oda applied real logic given his own world building when it comes to the world government.
Good take. But for me, I don't feel that the bounty being revealed right now are even inconsistent. I do agree that Oda hands out bounty kind of relative to the story because, aside from your point, of course when starting it out he may not yet have decided the ceiling of bounties. However, I do believe that he is accurate or precise when giving out bounties for major playing characters. The revolutionary officers are people who accumulated these bounty NOT in the grand line. They were in the blues and managed to accumulate bounties higher than 200 mil+. Luffy only had 30 mil going out of east blue and that was big for the east blue. As for Sabo and Marco, it is always like these for subordinates. Even if Whitebeard had a 5bil on his head or Dragon be revealed to have 4bil, it is still reasonable for their second in command to accumulate low bounty. Look at Luffy's 1.5 bil and Zoro's 300 mil and you can see this with every other pirate crews where the captain has a very high gap in bounty between their subordinates. Details like this even makes it possible for someone like Blackbeard to have 0 bounty despite being on board Whitebeard's ship for more than a decade.
Im glad someone finally said it most people dont have any idea of how bounties work
Chapter 320. Aokiji says : " The size of your bounty does not only reflect the threat your combat abilities pose. It also gives to show how dangerous you are to the government"
So bounty is a combination of both strength and other threat factors. I thought this was obvious to the community but I'm so surprised that many people think strength has nothing to do with bounty.
Finally! Someone is explaining the bounties instead of arguing why they’re wrong.
I really like the point on media and what is publicized influencing the bounties. Kidd's example is a very apt one. Also, one can argue that downplaying certain people and setting their bounties lower can help contain fear too. Maybe revolutionary bounties set as lower are also a way of saying that they are not as dangerous or capable of opposing the government as rumours may say. Just another way to control people's minds and ways of thinking.
Beast Pirates destruction is known as "calamities" huh? Do you intend... to "pursue" these pirates?
Or could be Oda just having fun while not being too unreasonable. OP Bounty indeed has a correlation with influence and power level but sometimes Oda just love's his puns.
The Final two strawhat will be and mark my words , Yamato , and Marco , Yamato is obvious , and we were specifically told about the payback war and Marco lost there , I cannot imagine Marco just being ignored with what Blackbeard did to him and his family , and we know that Blackbeard will be one of the last opponent and I don't think Oda will just ignore such a important character after onigashima
hey morj - love your videos just was curious as to this line:
"as we all know, capturing a devil fruit user and killing them gives you the fruit"
i did not know this - perhaps read through too quickly. can you (or someone else in the comments) remind me where to find this piece of info? thanks!
Pink beard had a pretty big crew I think that's why his bounty was so high on top of black beard associations and pilageing, he also isn't any where near superhuman so he could get his shit rocked by a blunt object easy.
The revolutionary army is always covet. Dragon probably gets his bounty from his past, not just him being a part of the revolutionary army. I am willing to wager that it also related to what he knows.
Morj: when it comes to bounties I think we can all generally agree that the raid will end in failure
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Morj thanks for video Bounty. Whats ur own prediction on your own bounty if any?😂
Morj is spittin facts
Also i have to add one more point regarding ,we don't know how it went but sabo and co fought with fujitora and greenbull (WG strongest military powerhouses) that speaks volumes about how underrated rev bounties are.
Oof was killed off so fast we never learned his bounty. We are left to wait for Morj to release his vivre card
Maybe there has been a lot of monetary inflation in the last 2 years in one piece. That's why early characters had "lower" bounties (:
While i agree with you, there are potentially good reasons for lower than expected bounties. In the case of specific devil fruit users i suspect its because it's a whole lot easier to track a person than a devil fruit. Fruits can potentially reincarnate anywhere, and are small. Finding specific ones can be a MASSIVE undertaking. Where as finding a user with said devil fruit is usually a matter of time. If you know how a df generally functions, then if you hear about or see a person with similar abilities you can send cp agents to confirm. In the case of Robin, it could be a matter of not providing the wrong king of attention. Df's exist and there are several crews with kid members. Roger and Alvida come to mind. So it's not inconceivable that a child can sink a battleship. On the other hand, if someone goes from nothing to ten figures that will attract the kind of attention the government doesn't want. Mainly Yonko. They all probably have information networks and there are only so many reasons that the government would want someone badly enough for such a massive bounty.
Over the years, similar to our money systems, there seems to be a sense of inflation in the berry system
Bounty’s are threat to government and society not how strong a character is
Same reason why dragon is worse criminal because he directly opposes the govt and same reason why mihawk prolly has a low bounty
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I feel everything does at the time of deciding the bounty of some characters. Not only your point, which I believe is correct, but also that the system itself isn't perfect, as you also said at the start. Because, honeslty, that's how these things work(ed) in real life too: the WG has SO MANY THINGS to think about and get busy with, that I doubt they can stop and analyze every little case out there, especially considering those are usually in the moving, so they'd have to think about all the criteria they have aaaall the time. That's crazy!
Yes, maybe Robin is the exception to that, but then we can understand that Oda prefers a more satisfying narration than a more "realistic" system, as this video argues.
while ur right about Robin, I feel like it also kinda makes sense cause they want Robin but they don’t want to bring a ridiculous amount of attention to her cause then Yonkos might invest way more into taking her for themselves at least when we are introduced to her.
Let's not forget the fact that Chopper had such a low bounty on him out of all the Strawhats, not because he was weak, it's because of a misunderstanding that he was thier pet.
Three is also the factor of personal motivations. Remember Luffy got his first bounty because that ratlike marine was pissed off at him personally and requested a bounty be put on his head. It's feasible that some pirates(like pinkbeard abnd krieg) have a higher/lower bounty because they have/haven't been reported
The problem with "maybe they're not that well known" is the fact that they are known at all. Just being a high ranking officer in the revolutionary army should put them way up the wanted list. Especially if they're trusted by Dragon. These are people that could have important information about the most wanted man in the world and they have what can only be described as a "pre-timeskip" bounty.
Yeah but how many of the Goverment know about it? Also, do they really want to put so many people going for them who could be manipulated by the informations they uphold?
If we look at it, Revolutionary Army do most of it's things underground and in secret, WE know how much they know, but we know that cause wr are watching/reading. We can't tell how much the Goverment actually knows about all of them
Just being a high ranking officer in the revolutionary army should put them way up the wanted list
and it has
but it would not put them anywhere close to a yonko commander
the 200,000 to 400,000 is a huge bounty for just being a officer and not really publicly doing stuff
the commanders of the yonko have spent decades actively and brazenly fighting the marines
the revolutionaries
mostly run hide and do hit and run
i would also add the officers other then sabo...do not come off as that strong
im not seeing karasu facing off against a warlord a admiral or a yonko commander
Morj is a genius.
Talk about this at the Reviere please
Or perhaps there was some crazy inflation for the 2 years of time skip and 50 million bounty is equal to a 5-20 million pre time skip. Or perhaps Pinkbeard could be like Buggy - has powerful officers to compensate for his own weakness. Or it could be a combination of both.
For me it makes sense that Pink Beard has 52M even if he is weak. He is part of BB army after all. Rock Star, who was new member in Shanks's crew, had 94M. Ofcourse someone will have higher bounty if he is member of Yonko army.