Why Killer Might Actually Die

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  • @mungunbayarbattsagaan3403
    @mungunbayarbattsagaan3403 Před 3 lety +1594

    going from killer to killed, now thats character development

  • @cedricpanebe703
    @cedricpanebe703 Před 3 lety +1816

    The raid failing... and now this. I really feel like Mr. Morj is the true villain of One Piece.

    • @kawiianimekitty7472
      @kawiianimekitty7472 Před 3 lety +25

      I dont think the raid will fail. What the fuck will happen next?
      Now I will go watch his video discussing why the raid ends. I'll edit this comment with my thoughts after that
      I still dont think the raid will end in failure. Theres a possibility but honestly I dont see how things will go further if the raid does fail though. I agree with his points of tragic moments of heavy failure in prior arcs but I dont agree with the fact

    • @dorians4043
      @dorians4043 Před 3 lety +12

      Nah that’s Drizzt job

    • @A-Ylover0FtheLordJesus
      @A-Ylover0FtheLordJesus Před 3 lety +2

      🤨✊🏽🤨✊🏽🤨😨🤨✊🏽🗑✊🏽

    • @majinmanbhakun6540
      @majinmanbhakun6540 Před 3 lety +21

      Morj has very convincing points for his theories

    • @aarav_sharma
      @aarav_sharma Před 3 lety +10

      @@kawiianimekitty7472 He likes to make bullsh*t Theories(that are well thought out but farfetched that Many times are proven true Because Oda also likes farfetched ideas)Its not his first time

  • @hiss9989
    @hiss9989 Před 3 lety +1285

    “For fun. For fun. For fun.”
    Translation: The one piece fanboys are scary. Please don’t crucify me. Please, I’m a human being.

    • @haremking7256
      @haremking7256 Před 3 lety +18

      Fanboy for life😂

    • @JECorbett
      @JECorbett Před 3 lety +20

      That's definitely what I heard when he said "For fun" 3x 😂

    • @bartiz12
      @bartiz12 Před 3 lety +48

      Morj: 'For fun. For fun.'
      Fanboys: 'We don't do that here.'

    • @bartiz12
      @bartiz12 Před 3 lety +14

      @@carlbig1 Good thing you do not check out new comments instead of top rated, already some toxicity can be seen there.

    • @carlbig1
      @carlbig1 Před 3 lety

      @@bartiz12 Yeah I agree

  • @thomassiggaardandersen6759
    @thomassiggaardandersen6759 Před 3 lety +180

    That's a fun devil fruit game. I have one: Foxy has the slow fruit because he slowed down the story to give people a breather before Enies Lobby.

    • @asianpersuasion4901
      @asianpersuasion4901 Před 3 lety +25

      anime foxy also made the game last longer by adding more rounds

    • @YetiCoolBrother
      @YetiCoolBrother Před 3 lety +34

      I'm 100% convinced the only reason that arc exists was to set a precedent for when we get the real Davy Back Fight between the Straw Hats and the Red Haired Pirates.

    • @mistersharpe4375
      @mistersharpe4375 Před 3 lety +28

      ​@@YetiCoolBrother It also definitely serves a purpose to show us more of the culture of the pirate world, since we really didn't get to see any of that in Skypeia or Enies Lobby.

    • @bogiewoods3037
      @bogiewoods3037 Před 3 lety +1

      And also because Foxy is a clever idiot

  • @sathvikng8660
    @sathvikng8660 Před 3 lety +565

    After his conquerer's haki theory I really can't ignore what he says

    • @unknownvariable9239
      @unknownvariable9239 Před 3 lety +33

      This is more along the raid will end in failure theory

    • @waluigi3515
      @waluigi3515 Před 3 lety +7

      @@unknownvariable9239 same as the conqueror's theory, actually.

    • @therandom58
      @therandom58 Před 3 lety +7

      @@PiecefulKaos Killer’s death would be... fun? To u?

    • @kettlefleet829
      @kettlefleet829 Před 3 lety +8

      Teapot

    • @nyongtory4e
      @nyongtory4e Před 3 lety +1

      @@PiecefulKaos I wonder how Appoo would ever join him and how Kid would ever accept him tough...

  • @galaxyvita2045
    @galaxyvita2045 Před 3 lety +424

    Kidd is the rival that is 1 step behind and BB is the rival that is 1 step ahead.

    • @MarcoDToon
      @MarcoDToon Před 3 lety +5

      Yo Galaxy have you seen the stream interactions between Morj and Randy?

    • @bartiz12
      @bartiz12 Před 3 lety +31

      Damn, I like this. Great observation!

    • @galaxyvita2045
      @galaxyvita2045 Před 3 lety +1

      @@MarcoDToon say teapot 3 times and more will come

    • @Divebomb18
      @Divebomb18 Před 3 lety +1

      Good catch

    • @JK-gd7hj
      @JK-gd7hj Před 3 lety +1

      blackbeard doesn't even have haki he's low diff

  • @jdrzga
    @jdrzga Před 3 lety +608

    You know the fandom is toxic when you have to clarify your theory is just for fun at least 4-5 times

    • @asianpersuasion4901
      @asianpersuasion4901 Před 3 lety +79

      revolutionary ideas are treated with disdain because they shake up beliefs people have held to be true for years.

    • @stormer1446
      @stormer1446 Před 3 lety +14

      Could be worse, the Naruto, AOT, TG, and BnH are a headache

    • @eVill420
      @eVill420 Před 3 lety +21

      @@stormer1446 boku no hero in particular, holy shit they're some toxic mofos, their toxicity just drives me away from the series completely.

    • @stormer1446
      @stormer1446 Před 3 lety +15

      @@eVill420 The be sending death threats to the creator all the time due to their yaoi ships not being canon.

    • @siddhartha894
      @siddhartha894 Před 3 lety +2

      Stormer144 that never happened bruh, stop believing shit in the internet

  • @RogersBase
    @RogersBase Před 3 lety +233

    This one was definitely a stretch but it was fun hearing you walk through it. Well done.

    • @davidabraham5415
      @davidabraham5415 Před 3 lety +1

      Waiting for your next theory video

    • @griot1722
      @griot1722 Před 3 lety +14

      not even close to a stretch everything he said had a natural logic progression. This is a solid theory

    • @tylernelson4901
      @tylernelson4901 Před 3 lety +5

      Hahaha stretch is an understatement! but it’s an interesting theory, I guess.
      If there are any A Song of Ice and Fire fans out there, this is a Preston Jacobs theory

  • @salvadorsalgado5212
    @salvadorsalgado5212 Před 3 lety +137

    I've been happily surprised by kid's behavior in the rooftop battle, being surprised by Luffy's and zoro's power, but not in a jealous way, being of support when necessary, observing the situation and after realizing that he cannot help against kaido, he immediately goes to deal with big mom, trusting the others to deal with kaido, and asking them to trust him to handle the situation and keep them separated.

    • @kimchiparrapio8942
      @kimchiparrapio8942 Před 3 lety +39

      ikr he's actually considerate and kind to those who have not wronged him

    • @rindoubaka1574
      @rindoubaka1574 Před 3 lety

      @@kimchiparrapio8942 What about all those innocent people he fucked with whilst gaining notoriety.

    • @xReisk
      @xReisk Před 3 lety

      @@rindoubaka1574 they were in the way of Kid's goal, none of them knew Kid or he had interest on the weak. Whats your point? What changes what he said?

    • @rindoubaka1574
      @rindoubaka1574 Před 3 lety

      @@xReisk Erm... he said that he's considerate and kind to those who haven't wronged him... I pointed out that he actively hurts innocent civilians who haven't wronged him... it's how he got such a high bounty. I'm sorry but I don't understand how you could misinterpret that in any way...

    • @xReisk
      @xReisk Před 3 lety

      @@rindoubaka1574 I understand what you said... If civilians opposing to a pirate's bad actions/intentions isnt wronging him, then how do you call that? Im pretty sure in the current One Piece World almost every pirate aside few are despicable persons generally speaking.

  • @anaDportgas
    @anaDportgas Před 3 lety +72

    The critique "Killer is doing more than his captian" may be intentional and Oda is not only giving Killer more depth and hype so his death is gonna have better effect, but also keeping Kid down for now so he can show of maybe after that?

  • @davidabraham5415
    @davidabraham5415 Před 3 lety +266

    I still can't understand how no one else talked about Kidd's magnetic power can be related to his character

    • @bartiz12
      @bartiz12 Před 3 lety +85

      Very few people think about One Piece in meta terms, trying to put themselves into Oda's shoes to figure out his reasoning and planning process. That definitely makes Morj one of a kind on CZcams.

    • @peepeevs
      @peepeevs Před 3 lety +2

      Because he is a magnetic personality? I don't know about that...

    • @MarcoDToon
      @MarcoDToon Před 3 lety +29

      @@peepeevs You didnt watch the video, did you

    • @obi3924
      @obi3924 Před 3 lety +16

      Don't forget that magnetism can also repel, not just attract. So that was one hell of a stretch on Morj's part

    • @bartiz12
      @bartiz12 Před 3 lety +62

      @@obi3924 I would actually say that it works in Morj's favour. Magnets can repel and attract depending on circumstances. If Kid, who is opposed to alliance, were to unite a new crew, he would change his metaphorical polarity.

  • @joshberg307
    @joshberg307 Před 3 lety +71

    You can’t forget the other half of magnesium which is repealing others. He should be polarizing you either love him or hate him

    • @bartiz12
      @bartiz12 Před 3 lety +28

      Wow, that makes even more sense with Kidd's current anti-alliance attitude and with potential change of it.

    • @eVill420
      @eVill420 Před 3 lety +5

      @@bartiz12 you could say that Kidd is a..... *polarizing* character

    • @joshberg307
      @joshberg307 Před 3 lety

      @krispy kreme yah I saw that after a few comments

    • @ralphabalos
      @ralphabalos Před 3 lety

      i think kid, in some way, would save the other supernovas, apoo and hawkins, but i dont think its fitting for his attitude to invite them to be his crewmates. but to make it still work, hawkins and apoo might make the initiative of offering themselves to kidd

    • @MIrfanPerdana
      @MIrfanPerdana Před 2 lety

      Magnesium?

  • @erictherien
    @erictherien Před 3 lety +49

    A couple things worth mentioning:
    Killer's name might have been Oda being lazy, but the rest of the character isn't. Killer was specifically introduced with a mask not because Oda was lazy with his design, but because Oda always intended on having him eat a S.M.I.L.E. If the readers know what Killer looks like without his mask, it would ruin the twist; so this is likely why he obscured it. We can also speculate that this is the reason why Killer is the only supernova without a Devil Fruit; he wouldn't be able to eat a S.M.I.L.E. if he already had powers. Plus, we know Oda had the concept of S.M.I.L.E. planed in Sabaody because we have an exchange between Doffy and Disco (the former slave house owner) where Doffy exclaims that the slave trade is old and "smiles" are in. Additionally, I forget when this happened (this was either during the timeskip or leading up to Wano) but Oda stated in an interview that one of the things he was looking forward to drawing was Killer without his mask, which we now know was because of the reveal of him eating a S.M.I.L.E. So I wouldn't call Oda "lazy" with Killer's character concept, just lazy with his name. The direction he was planned to go was more or less planned out from the start.
    That said, I do find it interesting that both Apoo and Hawkins fit Kid's crew design of gothic punk rock; Apoo because of his fruit and Hawkins because of his gothic horror theme. Granted, this was a connection Oda might have realized down the line, given that I always expected Apoo to be one of the Supernovas he figured would "drop out" post-timeskip, but out of the 7 remaining captains, those 2 are the best fit.

    • @justbny9278
      @justbny9278 Před 3 lety +3

      Even his name can be tied together with his laugh as rock music reference as others have pointed out before, so even if his name is lazy oda still put some thought into it throughout the process of making these past hundreds of chapters

    • @rianearth52
      @rianearth52 Před 3 lety +1

      Nice points. I also don't believe Killer will die. He will be important later. There's another reason why Oda hide his face, maybe he belong to Third Eye Tribe.

    • @thetruth997_
      @thetruth997_ Před 3 lety

      Psycho Killer is the name of the song he's inspired from. Even has his laugh fafafafafafa

    • @cesartheunknown9709
      @cesartheunknown9709 Před 3 lety

      Also as Kidd is a rival to Luffy, Killer could be a rival to Zoro, that's why probably he doesn't have a devil fruit. Zoro and killer are the only supernovas without a devil's fruit. Of course Zoro is stronger than Killer but Oda probably will want to show the grow-up in Kidd's crew

    • @aidanquinn6872
      @aidanquinn6872 Před 2 lety

      This matches up good but do you really think he thought that far ahead he was introduced in like 2008

  • @traffy-101
    @traffy-101 Před 3 lety +85

    Morj's second "theory" is interesting because i always thought it was insane how supernovas were thought of out of the blue with unique character design and abilities so it might make sense

  • @TheAmazingCanter
    @TheAmazingCanter Před 3 lety +58

    "Odo gave devil fruit powers to all of the other supernovas"
    Zoro: "Am I a joke to you?"

    • @michellewalters5182
      @michellewalters5182 Před 3 lety +5

      I forgot that Zoro is a supernova

    • @sohailsadaqat6684
      @sohailsadaqat6684 Před 3 lety +2

      Killer don't have power, and Urouge is not confirmed power holder for now

    • @mfdoodoo6951
      @mfdoodoo6951 Před 3 lety +7

      @@sohailsadaqat6684 according to the wiki, he has an unknown devil fruit that makes him stronger and makes his muscles grow bigger

    • @shridharbiju7370
      @shridharbiju7370 Před 3 lety +2

      @@sohailsadaqat6684 He has a power that increases his strength the more damage he takes.

    • @sohailsadaqat6684
      @sohailsadaqat6684 Před 3 lety +6

      @@mfdoodoo6951 I think ppl just assumed that he has power because anything people can't explain usually comes as DF ability, He could have some kind of ability like Kumadori where he could enhance his muscles, not saying it is that but officially its not confirmed if he has DF ability

  • @manuelahe_
    @manuelahe_ Před 3 lety +163

    Killer is on a punk aesthetic pirate crew, with a laugh that fits the lyrics to the famous punk anthem psycho killer by talking heads, "Psycho Killer, Qu'est-ce que c'est, Fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-far better, Run, run, run, run, run, run, run away oh, oh, oh;"
    never believe Oda when he says he didn't give something much thought, an afterthought for Oda is a weeks worth of consideration for the laymen considering an author's frame lol

  • @charlieboyce9004
    @charlieboyce9004 Před 3 lety +37

    Kids epithet is also 'captain', which could be proof that he will one day be the leader of all of the other supernovas

  • @Blaktimus
    @Blaktimus Před 3 lety +75

    Kidd leading the supernova like he's the luffy of them is CRAZY LMAOO DEPOSITION OF A KING HUH?!
    That...is actually really good
    Not to even mention the magnetisim

  • @harlizuga
    @harlizuga Před 2 lety +5

    Now that Killer has defeated Hawkins...
    F

  • @jetgatling723
    @jetgatling723 Před 3 lety +85

    There is no way The Kidd pirates could’ve survived both Shanks & Kaido AND Escape big moms territory with Kidd & Killer the only ones being able to do anything.. they can’t be fodder

    • @asianpersuasion4901
      @asianpersuasion4901 Před 3 lety +7

      kidd just destroyed some big mom ships, that's how hard to do. we don't know how they faced against shanks, he took an L to kaido. none of the other crew seemed to do anything against kaido

    • @jetgatling723
      @jetgatling723 Před 3 lety +38

      @@asianpersuasion4901 Kidd also defeated someone in big moms territory & stole something from her. & again.. the fact that they survived against 3 Yonko proves they can’t be weaklings

    • @clydu91
      @clydu91 Před 3 lety +3

      @@jetgatling723 He didn't defeat anyone there he just injured the person. Very specifically said to be "injure" and not defeat.

    • @jetgatling723
      @jetgatling723 Před 3 lety +36

      @@clydu91 you lot do all these mental gymnastics just to diminish Kidd... If he injured him & took what he wanted to take then guess what?? he beat them

    • @nyongtory4e
      @nyongtory4e Před 3 lety +3

      @@jetgatling723 Now that I think about it..... where is his crew? We've only seen Killer with him in Wano right? Have I missed sth?

  • @zac6876
    @zac6876 Před 3 lety +74

    If this is right they HAVE to be called the supernova pirates. That would be so sick. It’d be like rocks crew of the new gen. A bunch of strong pirates put together under one strong captain.

    • @pashaputrasupriatna4596
      @pashaputrasupriatna4596 Před 3 lety +2

      But we already have a new gen rocks pirates. The Blackbeard Pirates.

    • @zac6876
      @zac6876 Před 3 lety +21

      @@pashaputrasupriatna4596 ehhh I kinda disagree. Sure the titanic commanders are strong, and I do think Blackbeard has some connection to Xebec, but I don’t get the same vibe from all titanic commanders as I do from the supernovas. All of the rocks pirate members were not only powerful, but strong willed. A startling number of them have CoC.

    • @pashaputrasupriatna4596
      @pashaputrasupriatna4596 Před 3 lety +6

      @@zac6876 idk, maybe it's just weird for me think that a pirate crew that literally has a ship called saber of xebec, an island that was used by the former rocks and where the rocks pirates were formed, and just as evil and notorious as the rocks pirate back then would have been considered an equivalent of the rocks pirates in the new gen.

    • @mistersharpe4375
      @mistersharpe4375 Před 3 lety +13

      @@pashaputrasupriatna4596 The connection is there. Blackbeard is arguably the inheritor of Rocks' will, but that doesn't necessarily make him the equivalent.

    • @latima123ify
      @latima123ify Před 3 lety +4

      Supernova are rookie pirates with over a 100 million by Saboady , why would they be called that?

  • @MarkHogan994
    @MarkHogan994 Před 3 lety +167

    I guarantee zero people have put this much thought into Killer's fate. Hell, I doubt anyone's ever even thought about Killer's fate for more than 2 minutes. But yet here we are, about to embark upon a deep, intricate 20 minute analysis. Gotta love Mr Morj.

    • @ultraman6644
      @ultraman6644 Před 3 lety +2

      to be honest I haven't thought about killer for more than two minutes in general not just about his fate

  • @GioHimonPro
    @GioHimonPro Před 3 lety +18

    I like how Morj can't resist to diss Orlumbus whenever he brings up the Grand Fleet XD

  • @atomicambition8899
    @atomicambition8899 Před 3 lety +450

    kidd is basically luffy without plot armor so one of his crew dying makes sense

    • @RaffyDGoat
      @RaffyDGoat Před 3 lety +65

      Luffy's brother literally died?

    • @haremking7256
      @haremking7256 Před 3 lety +23

      How is he basically Luffy,we don't even know the guy...if u said BB it would've made more sense

    • @unknownvariable9239
      @unknownvariable9239 Před 3 lety +1

      So big mom will kill kid ?

    • @benayasdebela1164
      @benayasdebela1164 Před 3 lety +38

      @@RaffyDGoat and? He basically replaced Ace with Sabo

    • @acetofresh1
      @acetofresh1 Před 3 lety +45

      Plot armor is usually used because people refuse to understand storytelling. No , Kid is nothing like Luffy

  • @luiseusebio4203
    @luiseusebio4203 Před 3 lety +66

    pauses on 0:00
    Realize that's Mr Morj every time the Raid gets a glimpse of hope

    • @haremking7256
      @haremking7256 Před 3 lety +16

      Dude kaido is fighting while lifting an island,the raid is definitely failing....round 2 will be in wano

    • @vegeta9501
      @vegeta9501 Před 3 lety +1

      😂😂

    • @SJNaka101
      @SJNaka101 Před 3 lety

      I just so happened to be paused at 0:00 when I read this comment and subsequently died

  • @MisterShine1912
    @MisterShine1912 Před 3 lety +120

    If Kidd is actually the one who dies...
    And Killer can only laugh in tears..
    Damn that would be heartbreaking as hell😢

  • @kevincross3475
    @kevincross3475 Před 3 lety +18

    If Hawkins kills Killer I highly doubt that Kid would ever let him on his crew

    • @ducosietses3829
      @ducosietses3829 Před 3 lety +2

      Yeah thats right but when kaido kills killer that would be another story

  • @kirbyinhalesjotaro4471
    @kirbyinhalesjotaro4471 Před 3 lety +40

    So if Killer dies, do you think we’ll get a Killer/Kid flashback? I think it’s likely seeing as how Kid was always meant to be a huge important character.

    • @veruskatorres9276
      @veruskatorres9276 Před 3 lety

      !!! I hope so tbh if we get a flashback before killer dies means that he is going to die

  • @elitrey7209
    @elitrey7209 Před 3 lety +18

    Kid ain't gonna be kidding around if Killer gets R.I.P'd.

  • @nattylight9494
    @nattylight9494 Před 3 lety +31

    Need Ulti and Page One to join kidd’s crew after this. Maybe Ulti and kidd will start fighting big mom together after what happened last chapter. I could possibly see Hawkins and Apoo joining back up with Kidd leaving Wano.

    • @eVill420
      @eVill420 Před 3 lety +2

      yes I've had that feeling for a while too, they don't fit the vibe the rest of the beast pirates have, because they DO value each other where as the rest only care about themselves.

    • @dantecrottogini529
      @dantecrottogini529 Před 3 lety +10

      Don't forget Caribou! I think he might also join Kid. And if Kid gets hold of an ancient weapon that would make him a mayor threat, on par with the yonkos. Plus kidnapping Shirahoshi would give Luffy a great reason to fight Kid

    • @zerodlaw9622
      @zerodlaw9622 Před 3 lety +1

      Now this is interesting

    • @alexsreels
      @alexsreels Před 3 lety +1

      Why do a lot of people keep saying Page One and Ulti are going to join Kid? 😅 Enlighten me what do yall see... I haven't seen them interact with each other

    • @dantecrottogini529
      @dantecrottogini529 Před 3 lety

      @@alexsreels
      but they might next chapter and given Ulti's personality i think she'd be good with kid

  • @khaledtayan7523
    @khaledtayan7523 Před 3 lety +43

    Hawkins: your 92% gonna die
    Morj: well folks, killer is probably gonna die

    • @mahid_58
      @mahid_58 Před 3 lety +5

      Hawkins prediction never went wrong bro, even against kizaru, i also don't want killer death

    • @justbny9278
      @justbny9278 Před 3 lety +4

      Lmao worst part is you can't deny that's what's going on

  • @WarTitan888
    @WarTitan888 Před 3 lety

    I love the quality of your videos man, Good going :)
    Videos like these build a good atmosphere in the community.

  • @Xanderqwerty123
    @Xanderqwerty123 Před 3 lety +7

    When you teased that Kidd's new crew was gonna have some supernovas in the mix, I got literal CHILLS. I hope beyond hope that this comes to pass, because if he takes the supernovas away from Kaido to form a new and improved version of the Kidd pirates that would make so much thematic sense. It feels too perfect with all the pieces in play for Kidd to be a captain of captains and it would definitely solidify him as the number 2 of the generation, right behind the king himself.

  • @aribazariba7382
    @aribazariba7382 Před 3 lety +17

    Nah I’m not seeing it, I feel like this is one of the common „take risks and never be afraid“ situations, one piece is a bit soft on that side, I’m also seeing chopper finding something to heal everyone who is suffering from the smile fruit

  • @craylik5589
    @craylik5589 Před 3 lety +36

    If this actually happened Kid would make for an excellent parallel to Whitebeard amassing a big crew in comparison to Luffy with Roger's.

    • @billbean714
      @billbean714 Před 3 lety

      we dont know what kid wants def doesnt want any sons lol and we already have blackbeard. luffy has too many enemies lucci blackbeard koby akainu. kidd and luffy relationship is looking like shanks and mihawk

  • @haremking7256
    @haremking7256 Před 3 lety +29

    Oda will definitely show the difference of taking two years to prepare as opposed to just going in...the strawhats were trained by legends and I don't think that's something u can just overlook

    • @kimchiparrapio8942
      @kimchiparrapio8942 Před 3 lety +10

      i always forget that franky was lowkey trained by vegapunk lol tnx for reminding me

    • @izanagi8094
      @izanagi8094 Před 3 lety +1

      But they learned by the experience of going in and grew from there.

    • @vigneshwarandevanathan2594
      @vigneshwarandevanathan2594 Před 3 lety

      @@kimchiparrapio8942 Franky handling Sasaki pretty well. In fact it seems he’s not even using his full power. Franky close to YC level.

  • @LittleRockz
    @LittleRockz Před 3 lety +82

    I don't think Killer is dying. I mean come on this poor guy has went through enough. Being tortured, forced to laugh when crying and all that. Oda can't be that cruel surely.

    • @sugipulaboule
      @sugipulaboule Před 3 lety +29

      Oda: Heheh, hold my Nami figurine

    • @roseadmiral12
      @roseadmiral12 Před 3 lety +22

      he did say that marineford would look cute in front of wano soooo.......

    • @yuujinner5801
      @yuujinner5801 Před 3 lety +4

      The sweet release of death. No need to laugh anymore.

    • @bennyquan7879
      @bennyquan7879 Před 3 lety

      Ye and we saw Killer in Stampede

    • @kimchiparrapio8942
      @kimchiparrapio8942 Před 3 lety

      as i was watching, i wondered if killer was supposed to have died already from the beginning lol but bc oda loves torturing us, he made killer this pitiful character for us and luffy so that by the time he finally gets killed, we'll be more teary and luffy will be more enraged

  • @Therealflameprince
    @Therealflameprince Před 3 lety +15

    Wouldn't it make more sense for Kid to assimilate the leftover Beast Pirates after the War?
    They have already swore to leave after the shenanigans with Queen and they share Kid's punk and sadistic themes.

    • @XcUtiOn96
      @XcUtiOn96 Před 3 lety +5

      Page One and Ulti also kinda fit in his crew aesthetically speaking.

    • @athzalar9476
      @athzalar9476 Před 3 lety +3

      If you're talking about fodder like waiters/pleasures and even some gifters, i dont think thats what kids crew really lacks. But a mix of supernovas and tobiroppos joining him would be dope and give him powerhouses that could compete with the strawhats.

    • @noobforrl7039
      @noobforrl7039 Před 2 lety

      It would now make sense for him to become a Yonko if he ever defeats either Kaido or Big Mom, cause being a yonko means you need to have an influence or having an expendable crew. Cause, if your looking at Luffy. He has gained major influence from Alabasta, Ryugu Kingdom, and Dressrosa. And, theres also the Grand Straw Hat Fleet to where he formed a huge crew with an entire pirate captains.

    • @noobforrl7039
      @noobforrl7039 Před 2 lety

      But, i would still think that half of the Beast Pirates would go to Tama, just saying...

  • @shyguypro9876
    @shyguypro9876 Před 3 lety +13

    Really cool theory. It would certainly make Kid Pirates feel like an actual threat to the Straw Hats if this occurred.

    • @DAVAND23
      @DAVAND23 Před 3 lety +1

      If Killer died there's no way in hell Apoo and Urouge will ever be part of his crew. He already wants them dead and will be out for blood against anyone that was a part of the beast pirates.

    • @billbean714
      @billbean714 Před 3 lety +1

      @@DAVAND23 it goes against capones concept and character to join kidd hes a damn mafia boss. kidd looking like hes gonna have straight dinosaurs in his crew. whos gonna rival zoro if killer dies

  • @ArcticSpyd3r
    @ArcticSpyd3r Před 3 lety +45

    The amount of thought and research that goes into these is god tier

  • @deanreeve5257
    @deanreeve5257 Před 3 lety +7

    To add to this. Urouge seemed to be waiting in the balloon terminal right above Kidd, before Kaido attacked the Kidd alliance. Also Kidd said he went to Big Mom's territory to retrieve something and we know Urouge attacked them too. It's possible that Urouge was already a secret ally.

  • @XraynPR
    @XraynPR Před 3 lety +32

    Will the Teapot be the one to kill Killer? Stay tuned and find out!

  • @2hats2many80
    @2hats2many80 Před 3 lety +2

    I love this Morj. I would love to see this happen in the story. You’re right, it would be a very elegant way to bring relevance back to the super nova. Great video! Thank you for your hard work!

  • @all4god650
    @all4god650 Před 3 lety

    I love this theory. The reason I subscribe is for these speculative theories and over the top analysis for one piece. This is probably my favorite idea so far from u morj and think it would be so awesome to see a supernova crew by the end of wano.

  • @tommyvantran
    @tommyvantran Před 3 lety +25

    Kid doesn’t want alliances and his personality is very strong. But the thing about magnetism is “ opposites attract” so it makes sense he will draw people to come join kid for his goal.

  • @daram2672
    @daram2672 Před 3 lety +6

    I love seeing this channel gain popularity. Almost 1000 views in under 10 minutes. Crazy

  • @adityapathak5761
    @adityapathak5761 Před 3 lety

    You deserve respect. It doesn't matter that some of your theories won't come true. The dedication and effort to read that much into the storyline and speculate for fun, risking the ire and ridicule of fanboys (most of whom are never as invested) takes courage. Keep these coming!

  • @johnisbog
    @johnisbog Před 3 lety

    Given the ability you have at analising the story, no matter how crazy the idea seems at 1st, you have always convicing arguments to make me believe that it's possible!

  • @TaylorRussell_TheAnimator
    @TaylorRussell_TheAnimator Před 3 lety +11

    A pretty dang decent theory, it'd be a nice way to keep some of the Supernova's relevant, as well as give Kidd some growth and well... might make me actually care about his character OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

  • @acedaboss3785
    @acedaboss3785 Před 3 lety +5

    You forgot how Kidd got a few of the supernova to join him for an alliance. That also would make sense for the other supernova to join him

    • @deliciousdishes4531
      @deliciousdishes4531 Před 3 lety

      Wasn't it more like he was going to talk with Hawkins about it, and Apoo then also was there? It's not really like Kidd really drew them or anything

    • @acedaboss3785
      @acedaboss3785 Před 3 lety

      @@deliciousdishes4531 he was discussing an alliance with them. Appo would have been apart of the alliance as well if he wasn’t the traitor. And the fact that they had a meeting about it in the first place should tell you that they were considering it, or already made up their mind. Hawkins is a logical person, if he didn’t see any potentially the alliance he wouldn’t have talked with kidd

    • @TheSukari
      @TheSukari Před 3 lety

      Actually it was Killer who called the meeting. And the alliance wasn't official yet as it was cut short by Kaido

  • @zeldablizzard
    @zeldablizzard Před 3 lety

    I absolutely love this. I'll be looking forward to looking for evidence!

  • @soulkingjack
    @soulkingjack Před 3 lety

    really exited for you to go over this

  • @GreatATheOne
    @GreatATheOne Před 3 lety +6

    I believe that even with killer having a 92% of dying, I still want him to survive to show hawkins that even a small chance is still a chance worth of hope

  • @stevenramirez6072
    @stevenramirez6072 Před 3 lety +5

    Goddamn I'm actually early af. Love your analogies man. You actually take the time to really go in detail and don't actually use headcannon for the most part. Love your videos.

  • @DJMilez
    @DJMilez Před 3 lety +1

    It’s so wild and speculative but if it’s all under Oda’s ultimate goal and we heard it here first, Mr. Morj I tip my hat off to you sir. I honestly hope this plays out the way you described it here

  • @fromationart5371
    @fromationart5371 Před 3 lety

    Finally that Kid/Killer theory Morj has been sitting on for ages. Was well worth the wait

  • @JP-zb3yb
    @JP-zb3yb Před 3 lety +15

    My spidey senses were tingling about a new morj video and i see one was posted a minute ago. Cheers, mate

  • @dukedangles9712
    @dukedangles9712 Před 3 lety +8

    This would be amazing. You should be one of Odas editors lol

  • @tshepangquinton425
    @tshepangquinton425 Před 3 lety

    Good one man, I can actually see this happening and it will be really interesting

  • @kamarassakka9922
    @kamarassakka9922 Před 3 lety +4

    Okay hear me out.
    This theory as all the other New World storylines was foreshadowed in Pre Timeskip. How you may ask? Through Buggy the Clown. Buggy was introduced as Luffy's foe who was looking for a big Treasure. At some point in his journey, he and his crew were separated and Buggy was imprisoned. He only got out of prison when he met Luffy. Worked hand in hand with Luffy during the battle and because of that he impressed some other Pirate Captains. They joined him and by the end of the war, he had a crew which made him a Warlord.
    Though Buggy's journey was comical, it literally follows Kid's it by bit

  • @manavito2390
    @manavito2390 Před 3 lety +12

    I honestly just want your theories to come true because of the fanboys hating on them lmao

    • @josechamu240
      @josechamu240 Před 3 lety +1

      Exactly!😂

    • @ramonavila3847
      @ramonavila3847 Před 3 lety +3

      Lol nobody is hating. Is just stupid making vidéos about people dying . So far he thinks all the 9 scabbard will die, then Law, then Hawkings, then some of Kaidos headliners, then Kidd or Killer and also all the citizens of the flower capital... In a series were at most we have 1 deaths and even 0 in most arc is weird thinking multiple deaths will happen. Is like he wants that one piece will transform into something that is not.

    • @SalamKhan-nr2em
      @SalamKhan-nr2em Před 3 lety

      @@ramonavila3847 killer is as good as dead

    • @gabrielanassivera7318
      @gabrielanassivera7318 Před 3 lety

      @@SalamKhan-nr2em like ace

    • @noobforrl7039
      @noobforrl7039 Před 2 lety

      @@SalamKhan-nr2em killer is kid's ace

  • @jbanz1433
    @jbanz1433 Před 3 lety +34

    Already know it’s a banger

  • @anonymous14
    @anonymous14 Před 3 lety

    Mr Morj theories are usually pretty bold. I really enjoy that.

  • @jnguyen123
    @jnguyen123 Před 3 lety +2

    I think Kidd’s going to have a major character development. He loses almost all of his crew, and he realizes that having a status isn’t everything and changes his pirate approach.
    I do want to see something in the lines of how not everybody is destined to be the Pirate King and that not everyone has what it takes to become one. Kidd would be a perfect example of that. That being said, I do like this theory!

  • @ew275x
    @ew275x Před 3 lety +7

    I think my biggest objection is that for most pirate crews in the series, and in a lot of sports manga, most rival crews have few important members besides the leader. I think it's fine if Kid has nameless and unimportant crewmembers and that doesn't take away from being able to be Luffy's rival.

    • @deliciousdishes4531
      @deliciousdishes4531 Před 3 lety +4

      yeah basically the only other crew beside the Straw Hats who's really filled with important, interesting characters is Black Beard's. Maybe the big mom pirates. None of the others. Not even Roger's crew looks all that exciting!

    • @walterholyfield3203
      @walterholyfield3203 Před 3 lety

      @@deliciousdishes4531 shanks but yea that’s rlly it

    • @deliciousdishes4531
      @deliciousdishes4531 Před 3 lety

      @@walterholyfield3203 I don't even think Shank's crew is that exciting? Look at that group shot at Marine Ford. How many of these guys do you remember, and how many really stick out. The original main crew in the first chapter is iconic, yeah. But he has a bunch of fills otherwise.

    • @walterholyfield3203
      @walterholyfield3203 Před 3 lety

      @@deliciousdishes4531 I mean he has 4 important characters on the crew already and we haven’t even seen him fight, plus luffy literally said as a kid “ one day I’ll gather a crew every bit as good as yours” to shanks I believe that was kindve literal.

  • @TreksArtist
    @TreksArtist Před 3 lety +3

    I like symmetry of this idea in what happened to Kid's arm - he uses his magnetism to replace what he lost to make something bigger and better

  • @ArchXaether
    @ArchXaether Před 2 lety +1

    What you have described throughout the Big Mom matchup video, and this video honestly sounds like Shiki by the end of Roger's journey.

  • @barapakopopa2307
    @barapakopopa2307 Před 3 lety +1

    15k views and 2.1k likes is bonkers, congrats dude

  • @_akimamoto_6298
    @_akimamoto_6298 Před 3 lety +29

    I don't understand why in a series where people never die, people are always thinking that someone is going to die lol

    • @andrelopes8688
      @andrelopes8688 Před 3 lety +7

      yep, Oda constantly goes out of his way to make people not die. It doesn't matter if it makes sense or not, Oda doesn't like killing characters.

    • @bdmatsterrr
      @bdmatsterrr Před 3 lety +4

      Facts. Its wild, some people asking for mass murder in one piece lol. I know some people that think like 5 scabbards will be dead by the end of the arc

    • @Marshm3llow14
      @Marshm3llow14 Před 3 lety +11

      Oda has compared Wano to Marineford (even going as far as saying Wano will be bigger than Marineford) the only major arc where we had significant death of characters. And also death has been a significant theme throughout this arc. I'm not saying I agree with killer is dead, but I don't think it's a stretch to think some major characters will doe in this arc

    • @wisdommanari6701
      @wisdommanari6701 Před 3 lety +9

      Pedro, Ace, Higuma 🤔 if it's for a critical story reason Oda will do it

    • @deliciousdishes4531
      @deliciousdishes4531 Před 3 lety

      @@Marshm3llow14 only that in Marineford, there was 2 massive death flags built up for hundreds of chapters before already. The question was just if Oda would go through with killing characters for once.

  • @asianpersuasion4901
    @asianpersuasion4901 Před 3 lety +6

    :0
    I didn't even know that Urouge had a devil fruit....honestly with anime shenanigans, I thought him bulking up was just a power he can use....cause he's just an anime character lmao

  • @septwenvi2510
    @septwenvi2510 Před 3 lety +1

    The stretch that I like. Nice theory, man!

  • @salvadorsalgado5212
    @salvadorsalgado5212 Před 3 lety +2

    I think kid can grow into an even bigger and more powerful pirate, but he's too behind luffy to be his rival.
    1- he's behind luffy in terms of DF powers, kid was utterly shocked by the power of gear 4th
    2- he's behind luffy in terms of haki, way behind in all 3 categories. He doesn't have ryuo, he doesn't have future sight, nor advanced conquerors, and we still don't know that much about that, but it is possible that you first need to know ryuo, since conceptually they're pretty similar.
    3- he's crew for the moment is really weak and simple compared to the strawhats. The supernova idea you presented is really cool in my opinion, i don't know how likely it is, but that could balance things out. (But definitely not apoo, kid would never want that 😂)
    4- Luffy already has 2 road poneglyphs, and by the end of this arc, he'll have 3, while kid isn't even aware of their existence.
    5- after this the main rival crew that the SH will have are the black beard pirates, i don't know if Oda would want to detract from that, to throw kid a bone. And if we believe what Oda said, then the plan was always for luffy to fight the jonko, and kid and the rest of the supernova were and afterthought in the moment (the best one ever mind you), so it's reasonable to assume kid was never meant to be a great rival to luffy, and that his time just flew past him.
    I personally see him as something similar to Shiki, to as a forced parallel, but in the sense that he's a great pirate, that fights the protagonist from time to time, but can never reach truly reach him.
    Great theory BTW, i definitely want to see more of him regardless of what I said.

  • @xJeyyyyy
    @xJeyyyyy Před 3 lety +4

    Kid might even get Ulti and Pay-pay when he beats Linlin

  • @The-goat-king150
    @The-goat-king150 Před 3 lety +9

    This is morj advance observation haki I bet this theory will also come true' 🔥the will of m😉

  • @puck9267
    @puck9267 Před 3 lety

    Was a pretty interesting watch as always ^^ and I learnt a few new tings about Killer I wasn't aware of before. On the theory itself though, I think it is unlikely for a variety of reasons:
    1. one of the arguments you make with regards to Killer's death is that it could be used as a way to stimulate Kidd's growth but I don't think it's necessary considering the whole Kamazou ordeal Kidd went through earlier in the arc. That by itself I think is more than enough to have been a catalyst for Kidd's growth. That said, however we still don't know what the requirement for DF awakening is. Could be that you suffer a loss as big as losing someone very close to you in order to achieve it. That's the only way I can see Killer dying but I'm skeptical about even that happening.
    2. Killer's words to Hawkins in chapter 1011. When Hawkins predicted that Killer has a 92% chance of dying. Killer responded saying sumin along the lines of "Another Prediction? Fafafa Unlike you 'we' have full confidence in our abilities so fck ur odds" (fyi - this isn't the literal translation but a paraphrase based on the nuance) which I think really defines the Kidd Pirates and what they are about and if you look at their crazy actions till now, it does really fit. Moreover I think the narrative strongly favors Killer in this fight. It's basically a clash of ideals and Killer is on the protagonist side.
    So the above considered, particularly the earlier I think it is very unlikely that Kidd's crew gets disposed for a new one.

  • @mrpk646
    @mrpk646 Před 3 lety

    Finalllly been waitin on morj for this one. Yeeeeeeeet.

  • @sabiotiopablo5787
    @sabiotiopablo5787 Před 3 lety +3

    Morj: "hey everyone"
    Me: *gets convinced

  • @iurypadilha
    @iurypadilha Před 3 lety +6

    Add Ulti and Page One to Kid's crew. Next Ulti attacks Big Mom with no effect, Big Mom attacks back, Kid blocks the attack saving Ulti and because of that in some moment she'll switch sides and will carry Page One with her.

  • @Fullmetal719
    @Fullmetal719 Před 3 lety

    Very interesting idea. You're already the goat for BM goes to Wano but I would love for this to come true!

  • @frankbell9415
    @frankbell9415 Před 3 lety +2

    Let’s goooo I’m early 😈😈 Morj-San, what’re your thoughts on Sanji making the save for Inu and fighting Jack? I can’t help but feel like this gonna happen

  • @justsomeguywithnaturallywa3466

    Ok this wasn't convincing till that magnet part
    Man I just wanna say u can convince me to anything now

  • @garryjoseph7980
    @garryjoseph7980 Před 3 lety +8

    Killer is my fav supernova so if he dies RIPPPPP and he got the best drip outta all of them too

  • @antrakt900
    @antrakt900 Před 3 lety +2

    Marineford - Death of Ace and Whitebeard...
    Wano - Death of Killer and Law.

  • @ashbee4848
    @ashbee4848 Před 3 lety

    Your theories are scarily and mind-blowingly backed up by a lot of sense, even if the connection is speculative.

  • @sundypace1374
    @sundypace1374 Před 3 lety +3

    This actually makes a lot of sense. Really like this theory .

  • @mr.spongeboob3764
    @mr.spongeboob3764 Před 3 lety

    "Talking about this for fun"
    Mr morj bout to kill us when the new analysis drops

  • @rayneman6549
    @rayneman6549 Před 3 lety

    Always coming out with the most bold yet logical theories. Morj just keeps shaking up the whole community

  • @shad2902
    @shad2902 Před 3 lety +5

    Title: "Why Killer Might Actually Die"
    Me thinking: maybe because he is not a strawhat I guess

  • @acetofresh1
    @acetofresh1 Před 3 lety +7

    First , thematically we need to find out who Killer is. Either a celestial dragon or a downright Donquixote member , but Oda didn’t keep him masked for nothing Also magnetism is 2 faceted, Kidd also had very repulsive behavior, that could be beautifully juxtaposed with his own personal magnetism LMFAO man I need my own channel but I got no clue to create one smh

  • @onetsucks3813
    @onetsucks3813 Před 3 lety

    thanks for including how sabaody was the completion of the thriller bark themes of losing your crew! most include it in the marineford saga, but the sabaody arc is included in the episode of thriller bark box set in japan ⚡️

  • @daytonbaseball4
    @daytonbaseball4 Před 3 lety

    Morj I’ve been hating on your shit for a little now but this is that OG morj analysis that I’ve been missing. Excellent video

  • @scooottbruh7849
    @scooottbruh7849 Před 3 lety +7

    If this ends up become real, then at least I want him to get a W against Kaido

  • @antonioemilio9932
    @antonioemilio9932 Před 3 lety +3

    The Killer gets Killed should be the title of the manga chapter if it does happen

  • @DmitryIvanAlyosha80
    @DmitryIvanAlyosha80 Před 3 lety +2

    You had me until other members of the Supernova join Kidd’s crew. Even if Kidd fights alongside them briefly to fight Kaido, Kidd would never take in Apoo. Especially if Killer dies.

    • @alexsreels
      @alexsreels Před 3 lety

      Had me thinking, too. Kidd would never welcome Apoo unless Apoo had a reason to betray them, let's say to protect someone or to protect the long arm tribe

  • @MisterPrince01
    @MisterPrince01 Před 3 lety

    I've grown to really like Killer recently but your points are really really good. If he dies it's gonna be tough, especially since we know Kid and Killer are childhood friends. Great video overall, also the stuff about Kid and the symbolism of his magnetism. Good stuff.

  • @bbgplug51
    @bbgplug51 Před rokem +2

    bro no way you predicted his death a year before the chapter came out

  • @M1st3rZ1pp0
    @M1st3rZ1pp0 Před 3 lety +5

    Every character that has truly died has advanced the plot in a major way. I don't think Killer's death would have the same impact as Ace, Whitebeard, or Oden. His death seems unlikely to me. Even more given Oda's history with "killing" character. But we'll see.

    • @SalamKhan-nr2em
      @SalamKhan-nr2em Před 3 lety

      It advances the plot for kidd

    • @gabrielanassivera7318
      @gabrielanassivera7318 Před 3 lety

      @@SalamKhan-nr2em i dont think oda cares for kid right now

    • @tarikizgua1835
      @tarikizgua1835 Před 2 lety

      @@gabrielanassivera7318 so why he is writing him in this big battle against yonkos if he didn't care

  • @kurokuteakaiyuki
    @kurokuteakaiyuki Před 3 lety +2

    Very interesting theory and definitely keeps the Supernovas relevant instead of just fading into the background as part of a bigger alliance in the final war~
    I feel like the Kidd theory can come true even with Killer surviving, which would serve as a catalyst for Hawkins, Apoo and others joining when they witness the power and conviction that Kidd and his first mate have, overcoming all the horrible stuff they've faced, showing they're worthy to follow! Just a thought!

  • @DrunkMonocle
    @DrunkMonocle Před 3 lety +2

    I love this theory and the more I think about it the more it makes sense on how Oda could have constructed the other 9 Supernovas. From their introduction, they are already an inverse/parallel of the Strawhats.
    Luffy/Eustass "CAPTAIN" Kid
    Chopper/Law = "Surgeon of death". Doctor with an artic aesthetic
    Brook/Apoo = The musician & Brook had a relationship with the Longarm tribe JUST after Sabaody Archipelago arc
    Franky/Bege = Head of a mafia/gang as a one-man armada
    Robin/Hawkins = A gloomy person more interested in the future than the past
    Nami/X Drake = Orange hair child of a marine
    Sanji/Bonney = Man who cooks everything vs Woman who eats everything
    Zoro/Urouge = Strong tanky drunk fighter with themes of Buddism. I also think it was intentional for Urouge to comment about Zoro, "Doesn't look like the type to obey anyone."
    Usopp/Killer = Their captain's best friend. And Morj, if you're correct about your thoughts on these two characters' life expectancy by the end of the story, then they are destined to die.
    There are some other interesting parallels like both the Supernovas and Strawhats have just one Zoan-type user, or Calico Jack (Brook's original captain's namesake) and Anne Bonny (Bonney's namesake) real-life relationship. Some of these are a stretch, but let's give Oda a break. He only created all these characters at the last minute before Sabaody Arc.

  • @darkking3608
    @darkking3608 Před 3 lety +9

    What do you think of the Ulti and Page one joining Kidd's crew theory going around, I think it could fit in with this idea, especially cuz they're dynamic is really fun plus they're both really Young.

    • @deliciousdishes4531
      @deliciousdishes4531 Před 3 lety

      Ulti doesn't even really answer to Kaido, how is she gonna submit to Kidd of all people?

    • @lecho0175
      @lecho0175 Před 3 lety

      If she has Conqueror's Haki and with Killer dying, more likely I think