To people saying that the twist with Yamato is that there is no twist....that's only "unpredictable" writing if readers expect a twist in the first place. Most readers *don't* expect a twist and immediately take Yamato's words at face value, which is why Yamato is overwhelmingly the most popular choice for straw hat at the moment. I just made this video to remind people that we should be expecting a twist, because historically most people do just look for "easy fit" straw hat candidates, and that is clearly still the case with Yamato.
I mean I think this video just made me think even more that Yamato is the unpredictable character Oda introduced. I mean a year and a half ago NO ONE would have expected that the son of Kaido would be the next strawhat candidate that was a HUGE twist.
Hey Morj i think one thing people dont talk about enough when guessing new crewmates is the role in which they fit in like cook doctor etc. What do you think which roles could be filled or even need to be filled now on the ship, and then its mre interesting to look who can fill that role
Honestly, I never once got fooled by the gags around Brook. I didn't even think I was actually supposed to. I mean come on... We had him come on the ship and have a massive heart to heart with the crew as soon as he was introduced. Then a strange sudden goodbye. Then the strawhats immediately set out on the destination where he lost his shadow, which already had been stated as the reason he wasn't joining us. Compare THAT to the gag with the tree Luffy invited XD
And many people forget, even Morj somehow, that Brook revealed he was a musician the first chapter after he got introduced. Right before they get interrupted by Perona's ghost. And that Luffy wanted a musician since forever. As a weekly manga reader I clearly remember that many of us were convinced he would join (even if not everyone was convinced).
@@jukaa1012 Nope! haha Listen to 9:52 again. "It was framed as a joke" and "very few people believed he would actually join". His point is that it was a twist that he did. I'm saying it was super obvious, and Oda was just trying to not make it a 100% given. The context makes it starkly different to the gag of Luffy inviting the other zombies
As a weekly reader since Ennies Lobby, never had a doubt of Brook joining the crew, same with Jimbei, but since them, noone look significant enough until Yamato, and I don't believe for a second Caesar or Carrot joining. Franky joining was impossible to predict at the beggining of Water Seven, until the final fights of the arc, when he fight alongside the strawhats.
This comment contradicts itself, it’s claiming Yamato is the only possible candidate then says Franky was impossible to predict, that’s just more reason to look at characters other than Yamato, even if they seem unlikely or impossible.
Putting carrot in the same pool as Caesar? Lol. Let's just forget about him, but give carrot a fair chance. I was never fooled by brook or Jimbei either, and I never believed Yamato would join.
@@shadeslayer5402 did you change your mind after 7 months? Cuz Yamato sure do be looking promising ngl especially since luffy and yamato have the crew chemistry and her relationships with ace
Luffy actually REFUSING someone who desperately wants to be on the crew (most likely for their own sake or the sake of others) is a way better twist then Yamato actually joining right away.
I want to share a theory with you I think king will join the straw hats and Yamato will die to kaido luffy will beat kaido and king would acknowledge luffys strength and offer to become a part of his crew as a look out
A big twist would be Yamato accepting the fate of becoming the shogun of Wano since she is so against it. I think she will probably be the shogun and train momo to become the shogun eventually.
@@pablosalazar812 I agree, Everything about her is about Wano. And almost every member of the crew is introduced before the arc they joined. Even Robin, who was a surprising addition, was introduced separately with her meeting the crew early on before the main alabasta arc. Yamato is literally out of nowhere. My guess is that she will be one of the Red Scabbards, replacing Kanjuro, and also maybe part shogun together with Momo.
Morj, I would like to inform you of a fatal mistake you made in your stream yesterday. During the best dog poll, you forgot to include Stephen. Stephen is Whitebeards dog with which he plays fetch by removing his mustache and throwing it around like a boomerang. I feel this was an extremely problematic mistake, as Stephen would’ve easily cleared the poll without any contest. The reason for his exclusion of the poll is up for debate. Perhaps Morj didn’t want any contention in Chu Chu’s domination? Who is to say? The only think we know for sure is that Stephen was excluded from the poll, be it intentional or accidental. Due to this, I feel next stream should be a stream in which all dogs in one piece are ranked including Stephen this time. This will give us our fair winner.
Every strawhat has been predictable once a bit of information is revealed. As soon as Chopper was revealed to be a Doctor you knew where it was going, Brook was a given as soon as he was revealed to be a musician. Water 7 was between the Rope guy or Franky. Robin was the only one that came out of nowhere. Jimbe was a given as friend of Luffy with connection to Ace + Fishmen. It was pretty predictable to the people in my circle I assumed it was the same with everyone else.
Maybe Oda knows that we've caught on that the Straw Hats who join are unpredictable, so he was being unpredictable by giving us a predictable straw hat, Yamato.
Doesnt Nami break the standard East Blue recruitment? She did not join when asked by Luffy during her introduction in the Buggy arc. She then steals the Going Merry and seemingly is a villain. Then we learn her situation and backstory and Luffy rescues her. So it was not until 2 arcs after meeting Nami she joined the crew. That method of joining seems like Robin’s where a character comes aboard but isn’t a crew member. Then 2 arcs later the crew rescues that character and they become a permanent member. Granted Nami tagging along was less of a shock then Robin, but seemingly the methodology of how they ultimately joined was similar.
I think Nami is deliberately made to do that because she is a female character and is given more screen time for the readers to be emotionally attached. It also gave the readers time to hate the villains of their arc (Out of the villains in East blue, Arlong has the most personal relationship with a SH crew, due to Nami's Backstory). because its a shonen anime with a lot of male fans, the fans would accept a girl calling for help instead of a guy calling for help. That's why among the characters , it is Nami and Robin who usually calls luffy for help. (Arlong Park and Enies Lobby arcs, and their last moments against Kuma)
@@davidv1341 Possibly. Although Sanji also asked for help in WCI in a similar vein to Nami / Robin. He tried to take the burden on himself, left the crew, and after Luffy / Straw Hats come to save him he did end up asking Luffy for his help.
@@flippnwhat Yes, although he is male character, he is one of the strawhats who is always portraited as kind and humble. That's why he is the one who asks luffy for help. Not because he cannot escape, but because he wants to help his family to escape who is being held hostage (despite being a toxic family). He feels responsible to help them since they are his family and is part of his character development of being a kind person.
@@davidv1341 Yeah but saying it’s because Nami is female I don’t believe really works because of Sanji is what I’m getting at. Then again it very well could be the case and he has since changed his view on his audience and is willing to tread a similar narrative in WCI with Sanji.
@@flippnwhat Yeah, it might be that he changed his view due to the society and his audience being progressive. But I think of all the male strawhats, It would be Sanji, because he is the one portrayed as humble, even if he is one of the main fighters. Chopper or Usopp asking for help may seem okay, but for their character development is weird because the two of them has a narrative that they have something to prove to the world that they are strong. Zoro and Franky are known to be bad asses and manly. I'm not sure with brook, but since Sanji is one of the Main 5, a story revolving him would sound better.
Yamato is actually a wrench in the mix. She has been thrown into the battle chaos halfway through the arc. People are speculating but that's because we're reading on a weekly basis. Binging the arc will feel different. Yamato is also about to get a flashback just like the other strawhats. Oda does throw a wrench but he still leaves a similar element connecting every strawhat.
While people were expecting Carrot or the must absurd, Katakuri joining, now we have another Yonkou children who can join the crew, and yet he is subverting expectations again Zeus joined first :B
Zeus has a dream: He doesn't want to die being hated by everyone. Zeus has a tragic backstory: He's a homie made of Big Mom's soul who kept failing her to the point he was almost eaten alive. Zeus is a gag character. 10/10 Straw Hat material
The crazy part is, that arc was actually for Robin. Franky was just a side character that arc but he was just so charismatic that he somehow made himself so likable :d
I want to share a theory with you I think king will join the straw hats and Yamato will die to kaido luffy will beat kaido and king would acknowledge luffys strength and offer to become a part of his crew
I think the catch here is that it seemed like Carrot was going to join, but now it has become very unlikely. Also, since Luffy fought Big Mom's son in the last arc, it seemed like it would be the same here for Kaido's son, but then Oda surprised us with the revelation. Morj is thinking in the context of the current chapters, but it's like when Robin helped Luffy in the later half of Alabasta, Franky became an ally during Enies Lobby, Brook's past was revealed, etc.
I want to share a theory with you I think king will join the straw hats and Yamato will die to kaido luffy will beat kaido and king would acknowledge luffys strength and offer to become a part of his crew as a look out
Oh I still think Carrot has a higher chance than Yamato. Not only did Oda purposely establish a connection with the crew as well as threads for future arcs as well as a legitimate position in the crew which has been tried and tested (her role as lookout as demonstrated in the last third of WCI). Carrot is easily one of One Pieces biggest anomalies. She's been written in such a way where Oda actually has to justify why she wouldn't want to stay with the Straw Hats because nothing from the story so far has shown that she doesn't want to continue with them, the opposite in fact. Meanwhile Yamato has a lot going against her. The lack of any viable role in the crew (not inherently necessary but seemingly a pattern Oda has taken to). Her knowledge of potential future events and the One Piece (something Luffy doesn't want to know and a role which could easily make Robin less relevant). Strength enough to go toe to toe with a Yonko (something even Luffy can barely do).
A lot of people are saying Carrot won’t join because she took a back seat since wano started, but to me her role was just consolidated with the rest of the Minks for a little bit. I don’t think her story is done yet.
@@rindoubaka1574 If you think Carrot has a bigger chance then that is just your own bias. She certainly does not have a higher chance. Still possible but Yamato is definitely #1 Strawhat candidate with no competition in my opinion.
I think Yamato theirselves is the twist. Think about all the bucks up to wano and in all of that we were never told about Kaido having a kid and now that kid wants to join the strawhats? After we just had a long arc that had kids being loyal to their parent in big mom.
This is my thought as well, Also the lead up making us think its Carrot, Momo, then Tama. Those were the red hearings, and Yamato is the twist. The daughter/son of a Yonko joins luffy, that is a great way to top a Warlord.
I think it's interesting that Brook got introduced in chapter 489 and Yamato got introduced in chapter 984 (the same number but reversed). Oda loves doing tha kind of stuff.
@@danooshansureshkumar8405 Actually I misremembered. 489 is the chapter where Brook formally joins the crew (just checked), when he is personally talking about Laboon with Luffy. It's titled "The eight" in reference of Brook being the eight member of the crew. 984 is indeed where Yamato got her infobox.
Yamato has an obvious and specific purpose that aligns with when she gets introduced, and it's so straightforward that I understand why Oda would want to make it more interesting by having Yamato want to join the crew so badly It's simple. If Tama converts tons of pirates over to their side, and Kaido gets beaten, who is going to lead all of these leftover animal pirates? Who would they actually follow in the longer term? Kaido's son, easy. Not Tama, because Wano won't really be free until all of Kaido's lackeys are totally gone, and she's not going out to see with a bunch of ex-kaido pirates lol. But they can't all leave and then not be allied with the straw hats, so we'll give them a leader that's extremely sympathetic to the straw hats. Then it goes like this- Yamato: "I really wanna join the crew Luffy!" Everyone else: "Welcome to the grand Fleet!" Tada, done. Then as they're sailing away and we think it's all over, Momo or Tama pop out of a barrel
Introducing after two acts that Kaido has a son, that finally appears to be a female who, autoproclames herself to be Oden and that wants to join the crew seems like quite a twist for me xd
I believe you are missing the bigger picture. Yamato IS the twist. Since Zou people have bandwagoned into the "Carrot for Nakama" idea, even giving her a tragic moment in WCI (mentor death), showing her drive, etc. That plus Carrot's placements in the popularity polls tells me that Oda knew people were inclined to accepting Carrot as nakama. And yet, so very late in the arc, he introduces a female with a tragic backstory, daughter of the antagonist, who wishes to side with Luffy and join the crew. NOBODY was expecting the sudden appearance of a decently shocking candidate. Not only that, but it throws back to the days of the East Blue: since then we've been led to believe that no more teenager dreamers with backstories would joink, and thus another one joining goes against our assumptions.
OK so why would Oda make Carrot the perfect Nakama candudate, give her a reason to legitimately want to sail on with the people she has grown attached to and give her an actual tried and tested role within the crew just to pull the rug under our feet and tell us some random person who appeared out of nowhere will be joining instead. There's subversive writing and then there is crappy writing.
@@rindoubaka1574 You are really mad at how the manga is going. If Oda doesn't cater to your specific wishes, it doesn't mean it's "crappy writing". Carrot has been far from a "perfect" candidate 90% of the time. Sit down.
Dude, I was a biiig #carrotfornakama fan myself, but even I can admit that it's highly unlikely or even impossible for her to join now. Who knows, maybe she really is the Pauli-like character red herring of Yamato. It wouldn't make her character useless, since she already did a lot (as did Pauli at the end of Water 7 in the Iceberg Mansion)
@@mochiman7602 No, it's crappy writing. Allow me to Elaborate. First there is Yamato's introduction. A plot hole in itself. The alliance were actively seeking information in regards to Kaido and his army trying to find anything which may help their cause. Robin learnt pretty much everything, even down to the smallest and weirdest details. Yet she nor anyone else ever once heard of Kaido's child who is openly rebellious towards Kaido and actively causes him problems presumably frequently. Because she was a late addition written in by Oda to solve a problem, aka the log books for Oden. She certainly wasn't planned, or at least if she was there was no clever build up or foreshadowing. Just an exposition dump on her first appearance. Then you have how contrived her motivations are. This incredibly strong child of Kaido who is openly rebellious of Kaido was also great friends with Ace and therefore actively accepts Luffy as her leader as if she was a dog. I mean Jinbe was one thing, he was put in Impel Down alongside Ace because of his refusal to fight against the Whitebeard Pirates thus him being around when Luffy reached the cell. Yamato however, the oppressed daughter of Kaido just so happens to be great friends with Ace and idolises Luffy because it's an easy and convenient way to get her on Luffy's side without Oda needing to bother actually building her up as a character. And then we go into meta reasons. If Yamato was introduced primarily to join the Straw Hats just to increase the crews strength, that's lazy. Jinbe was a huge strength boost for the crew yet his entry was justified and built up. We're reaching the Endgame now so any huge adjustments to the crew shouldn't just be some dues ex machina bullshit that literally pops up out of nowhere halfway through a crucial arc with absolutely no build up. Basically Yamato was a late minute addition by Oda and one he realised he needed to get people to immediately like which is why within her first couple chapters she's suddenly the absolute best person for Luffy to have on his side. It's pretty lazy. Yet One Piece fans Yelp anything Oda writes up.
I think there's something really cool that you didn't touch on. The first five Strawhats, Luffy included, serve a story purpose elevated from the others. First is Luffy, the captain and main character. Then came Zoro, the first mate and complementary contrast character to Luffy. Then came Nami, the navigator and emotional gate that Oda uses to guide the readers' emotions. Fourth came Usopp, the sniper who brought an entirely new dynamic to the Strawhats, cowardice. Then finally, in the east blue, we have Sanji, the cook who becomes the tactical character going forward. There's structure to these first five. You have the captain, three complementarian generals, and the character the readers can easily empathize with. Each character brings a whole new dynamic. Luffy is carefree and emotion driven. Zoro is extremely cautious and pride driven. Nami is an emotional character who hides it as best she can. Usopp is a coward who has to struggle to find his own way in life. Finally, Sanji is the first smart fighter in the Strawhats, but he's just as emotion driven as Luffy. What's even cooler is what happens in the grand line. You're right in that they weren't expected, but what makes it so amazing is that with knowledge of what happens you can go back and see all of the foreshadowing Oda put in for the characters. The one thing that links each and every member that has joined in the grand line is that they needed Luffy. Chopper needed Luffy; Chopper didn't just need someone to take him out to see the world, but he needed someone with an unbreaking joyous spirit. He needed Luffy. Nico Robin needed Luffy; when she's first introduced she has the opportunity to end Vivi's attempt at saving Alabasta, but she doesn't. Her conversation makes it seem like she's fishing for something, and she even provides the crew with the means to bypass a year long wait. Then at the end of the battle Nico is the only character to betray Crocodile. She clearly needed something, and later it's revealed that she needed Luffy. Franky needed Luffy; from the beginning it is demonstrated that Franky has a need for family, but as the story goes the reader learns why Franky needs more than just the broken family he has but needs a family with a dream. I don't think I need to explain how Brooke needed Luffy. Jinbei needed Luffy; Jinbei is interesting because his need for Luffy is weird. There's the surface level of duty Jinbei feels towards Luffy because Jinbei promised Ace, but then there's the deeper level of Luffy chipping away at Jinbei's duties. Jinbei feels a duty to protect Otohime's dream, but Luffy shows up and shows that humans and fishmen can coexist. Jinbei feels a duty to protect Fishman island, but Luffy shows up and declares Fishman Island his own to protect. Then, at what appeared to be Jinbei's death, Jinbei seemed to feel a duty to go down with his crew, and Luffy strictly forbid him from doing so. There's one extra layer here. The characters that didn't join the crew didn't need Luffy specifically. Vivi didn't need Luffy; she just needed someone to save her kingdom. Paulie didn't need Luffy; he needed someone to protect Iceburg. Iceburg didn't need Luffy; he needed assurance from the government. Rebecca and Kyros didn't need Luffy; they needed someone to beat Doflamingo. With all of this in mind. I do think Yamato will be the final Strawhat member. It appears that Momo doesn't need Luffy, but Momo needs a strong role model. Carrot doesn't appear to have a need per se, and Yamato genuinely appears to need Luffy. Yamato appears to have a need for the will of D that Luffy and Ace possesses.
I agree. All the SHs that joined needed to be with Luffy to achieve their dreams. Zoro - best swordsman Nami - draw a map of the world Usopp - brave warrior of the sea Sanji - find All Blue Chopper - cure all diseases Robin - read poneglyph, know the blank history Franky - have his dream ship sail across the world Brook - meet Laboon Jinbei - for humans and fishmen to coexist Yamato won't achieve his dream by staying in Wano. He has to sail out, and I think there is more to it that we don't know yet. It might be revealed in the backstory.
Chopper was really obvious after we saw his hybrid form and learned that he was a doctor. Pretty early in the arc and not long at all after he got introduced. I watched the anime as a kid, and maybe I got spoiled by the opening I don't remember quite well, but I was certain that Chopper was going to join even as a kid.
I think the point is that we didn't expect a talking reindeer to be the next strawhat, considering how all strawhats so far were human. But yes, as soon as he was introduced, it was pretty open that Chopper would be the next crewmate.
This is gonna be a long one bois. By your definition of how Oda subverts and creates the most unexpected situations for a new crew member to join, Yamato is one of the most unpredictable and left-field characters to join. When it comes down to it unexpected/subverting , to you, means that last minute before the arc ends a character you might have had reservations, or never thought about joining does in fact, join. - Chopper denied joining Luffy until Luffy solved the problem with Drum Kingdom and free'd chopper from what bound him to the island and right at the end of the arc decided to join. - Robin as an enemy randomly turned up on ship and became a member with her story to later be solved by Luffy once again. - Franky again was an enemy who we had no inkling would join, he even denied it at the end to stay with the Franky family, but after a gag with his underpants and with Luffy somewhat avenging Tom by beating CP9 and destroying Enies Lobby, he joined. - Brook was asked straight away, once his backstory was revealed and he was saved by Luffy, he asked if it was alright if he joined, but the offer was already extended to him so it wasn't really a question of whether he would. He was pretty much a given and no one was surprised when he joined. Probably the least surprising of them all tbh. -Jinbei was asked almost on a whim on Fishman Island and out of left-field and then happened to be with Big Mom where he was able to free himself to join with Luffy. We don't know how long it would've taken Jinbei to turn up or if he would've at all if Luffy wasn't involved in WCI. Now take a look at Yamato, as unexpected as these new crew members were at this point it's almost expected for Oda to do the unexpected, so we are looking past Yamato, when in fact her/his obviousness is in itself unexpected. -Yamato is the only potential crew member who luffy didn't ask to join but who her/himself exclaimed that she/he will join. -Yamato doesn't have any dream to be the best at something but her/his dream is to simply sail the seas and now that I think about it she/he is also fulfilling the dream of another, being Oden and his dream to free wano. She/he is actively taking her own hand in achieving this when compared to past crewmember positions. Yamato is fighting Kaido and will fight Kaido in the upcoming chapters. Luffy wasn't the resolution to her problem but a catalyst for her to resolve it herself which she is trying to do. -All the other strawhats had to be "saved" by Luffy before they considered joining whereas Yamato asked before any of this took place. -Regular Strawhats all have backstories independent of Luffy. It can be argued that through Ace however, that Luffy is part of Yamato's backstory. Yamato wanted to be free and she certainly wanted to be able to sail the sea's with Ace but after she/he heard of his death and possibly after reading some of Oden's journal in tandem with reading about Luffy's exploits you could easily theorize she/he has been waiting for him so she/he can sail with him or with "joyboy". I think the reason you think Yamato isn't the one who joins isn't that Oda didn't throw her/him out of left-field or that he didn't subvert but just the fact that she/he said it herself and that she/he stated it in her introduction so long ago. In reality, when you look, at it everything about Yamato and her/his will to join is completely unique and "left-field" when compared to any other straw hat. I'd be willing to bet that when she said right off the bat she wants to sail with Luffy, actually, I'm not gonna bet because it's a fact that everyone was shocked and no one was ready for it. You appeal a lot to the "if you look back" phrase but in Yamatos case you don't look back at the ways she/he adheres to all the unexpectedness you say Oda delivers with. I had a lot more reasons listed for her but my fucking phone died when I was typing this first and I couldn't remember what I wrote the first time.
I don’t know even after watching this video I think Yamato’s chances are even higher. You saying that this is totally different and feels weird are exactly the same feelings readers had after standards of the East blue introductions. I think Oda is playing with our expectations again by having a powerful, late arc character claim that they are joining without Luffy asking is unique and exactly the point. As with Brook at first, many aren’t taking Yamato’s claim seriously because we do not know of their backstory, dream, and thematic relevance to the arc.
But I can also see Yamato not joining because of the Ace flashback in 999. Ace mentions that Yamato is strong enough to have their own crew and I can see Luffy saying the exact thing by the end of Wano I am NOT saying Yamato can’t join because she’s strong. I am saying I can see Luffy saying the same thing Ace said and have her start her own crew.
@@Dr.Farewell well, he said that he didn't understand how someone so strong wasn't a captain. But isn't that an extremely weird reason to give anyway? I mean, saying that would mean Luffy deems Zoro, Sanji and Jinbei too weak to be captains lol
@@Dr.Farewell Strong enough to have their own crew is a very vague statement. There's no strength prerequisite to having your own crew. Zoro and Sanji could both be captains on their own, Ace actually was a captain of his own crew before he joined WB. That seems like an odd reason for Luffy to decline... he has no reason to anyway.
But if morj is expecting the next straw to b introduced in an unpredictable manner that in it of itself is predictable because he knew it would be unpredictable therefore it became predictable. So the only way to introduce the next straw hat in an unpredictable manner is by making it predictable. haha!
Which means the next strawhat is gonna be unpredictable because that would be the only way to make it predictable - which is now unpredicable because idjafjåioajmbe Pasifista.exe.404ShutdownCP69pantiesyohoho
Yamato is the child of Kaidou, is the only character that has asked to join Luffy, and knows about Luffy's dream beyond becoming Pirate King, which as far as we know the only other character alive that knows that dream is Sabo, so Yamato and Luffy already have a special bond even if Luffy doesn't know it yet
@@Ethereal_Night_96 We don't know for sure yet what Luffy's dream is beyond Pirate King but Luffy declared something during the Ace, Sabo, Luffy flashback and whatever he said was cut off from us seeing and the same thing happened in Oden's backstory with Roger saying something in an almost identical way being cut off from us seeing again. In chapter 1000, Ace tells Yamato what Luffy said but whatever he said again was cut out, and Ace tells Yamato "that's at the end of my little brother's dream" and "Sure, when Luffy first said it we laughed, but that's okay!! Nobody else can laugh!! We believe in him!!" and Yamato says "I'm not going to laugh at him" and then thinks "Those were the words the King of the Pirates spoke. Words that stunned Oden."
But wasn't Yamato's introduction so late in the arc out of left field? That wasn't surprising? Or the face that there was an added twist to that introduction? Or the fact she shared focus with Luffy during chapter 999 and 1000? Both milestone chapters, mind you. So, yeah, Yamato is surprising, but also obvious.
It was surprisingly but in a bad way. If Luffy fought Kaido, and Kaido fell down some stairs and died, I would be geniunely surprised. That's like how I feel if Yamato is suddenly added in the crew. She suddenly introduced in the middle of the arc, no foreshadowing whatsoever, suddenly the one of the strongest of the main forces who is willing to fight Kaido 1v1. I think it would make more sense if she is now one of the Scabbards,replacing kanjuro, or part shogun who protects Momo because of her strength, since she is super strong. She would be the Oden that became Shogun, which I think is better suited for her, and not be suddenly, one of the main characters.
@@davidv1341 I agree that her introduction was too late and should've had some foreshadowing. But the topic was 'surprising' introduction and left field additions. Rather or not she joins is up in the air, but with the amount of focus and attention she's gotten so far... Hard to ignore overall.
@@davidv1341 i think she will join if she stop referring herself like oden and accept herself who she/he is. I think that why when she asked luffy if she can join the crew. He didn’t say anything like he used to like when broke joined. That what I think Sorry for my bad English!
@@tsmith101591 While her screentime is focused right now than the other side characters, I believe that its one of the narratives of the wano arc which Oda is rushing to give focus on due to her being introduced too late while being one of the main characters of the arc. It's like in Dressrosa where King Riku, kyros and his family are given focus as part of the story arc, and even gave Kyros a major fight with diamante, despite not being on the grand fleet. She would need screentime so that the viewers may have emotional investment with her current goals, but she would need even more screen time if she will be one of the main characters, since the readers should be convinced that she is joining and is part of the crew, rather than just part of the current story arc.
@@baniini2021 I think there will certainly be a narrative where Yamato will accept she is herself, since Oda implies that she is delusional (Ulti said she is and Luffy said she is a liar because she is not Oden, when everyone loves oden). It would also be weird if Yamato didn't fix her delusion with Oden and joined, like if they are now fight Blackbeard and WG, she says "she is Oden", that would be very jarring because that is only relevant in Wano.
Yamato joining isn't weird because every character joining breaks a pattern of how a character joins the crew, and still there's some patterns even after Jinbei, the first I think and the one I think Yamato will break is, every character join the crew after Luffy invited, and I can totally see Yamato going into Luffy ship claiming that she'll go with him and become a new nakama without even Luffy asking and he won't even care about it
"Oda always tries to surprise us with the next strawhat" "Yamato has a seriously portrayed motivation to join - this has NEVER happened before" Well.... Yamato joining seems like a surprise by this logic, no? No, but seriously now, I can actually argue for and against Yamato, the stronger feeling though is a kind of in-between 'temporary' addition, like Vivi or Carrot at this point
@@patoshippuden7199 I agree. Their want for Yamato to join very shallow. Their argument is always based on her Overpowered strength, good character design, the "What if the twist is no twist", and the waifu based thinking. I don't really know if they watch Morj's videos since all of Morj's videos and theories and based on current data gathered from the story by using critical thinking.
The problem with your argument is that you can’t say, “Oda looks for new ways to surprise us with a new crew member” and then say this is why we should be skeptical about Yamato joining. You’ve said yourself in many videos that everything about Yamato’s introduction is weird, and not how Oda normally does things. The fact Oda has been dangling Carrot in our faces for years, but then brings in Yamato who purposely mirrors how Oden forced his way onto Whitebeard’s crew… Yamato is the clear front runner. Is it a guarantee? No. But your video just adds to the argument of Yamato being the next Strawhat.
@@yousefabdullah5982 What's there to expect when Yamato was literally introduced in the middle of the raid when there was no mention of her existence beforehand?
You say that Oda is looking for ways to break the pattern yet you keep applying old conventions on Wano as if it follows the formula of every other arc. Is it not possible that of all the times to break away from the mold it would be in the biggest arc with the biggest repercussions and impact?
Hey Morj, I saw this vid when it came out, but I just remembered the premise of this video and was thinking how dope it was. Somehow was able to piece together enough to find this video. So glad I did. Great stuff man
To Luffy most of all, Jinbei despite not being a crew member for a while gets a lot of "real one" moments fuck when he saved Luffy from akainu and his despair post ace death
Jimbei is a needed addition to the Straw Hats. As the they are now threading on the political seas of the New World, they needed someone who has the experience and wisdom to guide them to the right path. He is like Luffy's advisor. If not for him, the Big Mom Assassination alliance wouldn't even be formed.
And Oda put more time and effort into building him as a character than with any other strawhat I think, even if we don't include when he was mentioned back in east blue. How Oda built the bond between him and Luffy is quite special tbh
Franky was only a surprising pick for the very beginning of Water 7. Once we got to the actual "plot" of the arc it became more and more obvious that it was going to be Franky. Jinbei being a strawhat was so obvious that when Luffy finally asked him to join it came as a shock to absolutely nobody. I only became a weekly reader during Water 7 so I don't have much to say about Chopper or Robin, though to me Robin comes to mind as the only already established character who came as a complete shock when she asked to join the crew. I don't really count Brook because he wasn't a character before he became a crewmate. Luffy asked him to join the moment he was introduced, so there wasn't any "will he or won't he". The big thing about Yamato joining, is that right now it is their stated goal. Beat Kaido, and then go out to sea with Luffy. Would Luffy reject a potential crewmate, especially one who is doing so much at the moment to help Luffy and his friends achieve their goals? I don't think so, so there has to be something to keep Yamato in Wano. I have absolutely no idea what that could be at the moment. I can't think of anything in Wano that would be more important to Yamato than their lifelong dream of sailing the oceans like Oden. We still have a ways to go in Wano, though. I don't think there's ever been a situation like this in One Piece before, so Oda is definitely sailing into uncharted waters here.
One thing that could stop it is Kaido just straight up killing him. Not likely but it is possible, Kaido's already proven he wasnt above it with those cuffs.
Morj, You keep defeating your own argument, the fact that its so strange is exactly what makes it more plausible. This never happened before thus its a perfect way for Oda to make it unique to Yamato. If we keep expecting him to be unpredictable then being predictable is unpredictable, hope it makes sense.
@@rindoubaka1574 she was introduced in 971 in the manga she's been in the manga for a long time and she established a bond with luffy i think oda will make her the oden of the crew cuz she wants to be just like him oda would make her join the crew and be the adventurer free spirit that wants to explore the world like oden
By your logic, Morj, you can't discredit the fact that there might be multiple members. Sure I'm insane, yet.... There's going to be more than one, I think.
I think that would actually be the biggest surprise possible. Instead of catering to Carrot fans, Yamato fans or whatever other person is being theorized to join, Oda could just bring a bunch of people to complete the crew lol
Lol brook was never a surprise to me luffy said in the very beginning that he first wanted a musician, the moment brook played the violin i knew it wasn't a GAG
Chopper wasn't really a surprise, luffy said he wanted a doctor. The moment it was revealed chopper was a doctor, everyone should have put that together. Robin was a surprise for sure because unlike most of the crew mates, luffy never said he wanted an archeologist.
@@deepEleven why tho? How did it make sense for an 140 year old woman that had nothing in common with a crew that at the time was exclusively teenagers to join? I never got why people expected this.
I 100% thought that Paulie would be their shipwright back then. But I did believe Brook would join. After that people were throwing names at literally every arc. Personally the only one I kinda believed was Marguerite, but mostly cause I hoped she would join rather than having an actual basis for it(I just wanted more girls in general). Right now I think Carrot will join, I think Momo and Tama will not and I'm on the fence with Yamato. Yamato was introduced so late in the arc that it's a quite weird case. Meanwhile we got Fluff as a new member.
@@lukerne9260 Are you italian? Also, Mono needs to replace his father, Wano needs him more than ever. One might argue that Momo needs to grow up and what a better adventure than to sail with the future PK, once the journey is over he will be a better leader. That means his sister will rule Wano till his come back, or she'll rule till her death as well. I'm not sure, I don't see Mono sailing with Luffy.
Why do you think carrot will join? Im not saying she wont i just see nothing to suggest she will. Imo she doesnt stand out in the slightest as to be a straw hat.
Morj picks up on some of the best details and plot points that Oda wrote, he’s able to enrich the story even more than it already is and that’s why I adore his content. No bs theories, Morj is able to support his reasoning with trends, plot points, character quotes, and facts in general which is why I believe Morj to be one of the best Op CZcamsrs.
the raid will fail.......was stupid logic. No one in their right mind would want this. We will have to reset everything again which would be boring because we just witnessed a setup with betrayals and twists and RT5....etc and then for it all to happen again jesus. Wano would end in 2023. He is stubborn but speaks like he's an expert Sawyer7>Morj
I think you’re forgetting that the context of Yamato’s introduction was unpredictable. Everyone thought the next Strawhat would be Carrot. Nobody thought a Yonko crew member (let alone a family member) would join the Strawhats instead of her. Isn’t that a twist in itself? Think back when Acts 1 and 2 of Wano ended. It looked like all the main characters of the arc have already been introduced, and most people still thought Carrot would join after Wano. But suddenly we get the DAUGHTER OF THE WORLD’S STRONGEST CREATURE in the least expected of times (right in the middle of the big battle). Not only that, but she immediately throws Carrot right off the first place as the most likely candidate. Everyone was getting ready for Carrot. Nobody expected Yamato. That’s the twist.
Well then it's a shitty twist. If the twist is the meta idea that suddenly most people believe a random new character is more likely now than an established character then it's a bit of a shit twist. I really doubt Oda writes that way.
Oh please, people didn't like Carrot enough to "be ready" for her. I still remember people saying Jinbe would be the last Straw Hat prior to Yamato's introduction, then everyone is like "okay, one more wouldn't hurt."
@@rindoubaka1574 just like Morj said, Oda always tries to find new ways to introduce new straw hats. Don't let your personal distaste cloud your judgement, it is a real possibility.
@@rindoubaka1574 Yeah, and I'm happy for that. Truly glad that we got together to vote that most of those naysayers against Carrot are a vocal minority of the fanbase. That said, I still am kind of upset at how people were so easy to switch from "Jinbe is the last to join" and not take into consideration that the 10 nakama were excluding Luffy from the count to "oh, so Yamato's the last one." The flip flopping of public opinion is a slight pet peeve of mine.
Never would I have expected it. But only because the fishman are so freakishly large, it would just look weird.. but here we are with a skeleton, cyborg and fishman so..
The way you described Brook's joining of the crew kinda makes a dent in your point for me. I've caught up with One Piece around the timeskip and got a lot of things spoiled, so that might influence this point. But when Luffy invites other zombies and creatures in Thriller bark, the panels where he does it are usually normal-sized, so they don't signify anything important. The panel where Luffy asks Brook was a DOUBLE-PAGE SPREAD PANEL. This for me signifies that Oda from the beginning wanted us to know who is joining and the rest of gags about Luffy asking everybody to join the crew were just gags, no red herrings or anything like that. So for me it's kinda clear that Oda wanted to communicate Brook joining as a fact set in stone since the beginning of the arc. Although to be fair, I absolutely 100% agree with you on Robin and Franky.
Yeah... that’s why it was done immediately after we met Brook. Oda didn’t carry that idea unnecessarily throughout the Arc. We knew Brook was a potential crewmate. But it still didn’t feel like he had earned his place. Little did we know that he would tie it in with Laboon from several arcs ago....
The double page spread was probably actually for the surprise factor. First time I read it I was so shook by the ask. It might double in meaning but I think it was definitely to sell the shock value if it.
You make a lot of good points about rewinding our brain to look at history, but I think it can also help Yamato's case depending on how you look at it. For one, his introduction was well into Act 3, which differs from all the post-EB Strawhats who we saw at the beginning or middle of their arcs. Back then, we also believed Carrot would be the next member since she fit the mold of a "typical" Strawhat, so having a new sudden candidate was a twist in it of itself. Additionally, having a Strawhat proclaim they'll join the crew without a real "story" or purpose isn't even unprecedented. The only member who wasn't invited on by Luffy himself is Robin. Like Yamato, she also lacked the typical Strawhat backstory and purpose when she joined. Heck, the arc barely even featured her. While I'm not saying a Yamato-focused Enies Lobby arc is planned in the future, this proves that a Strawhat doesn't have to be fully fleshed out before they join the crew. I think Yamato being an "obvious" choice is only because the fandom immediately grew to like him and that his parallel to Oden is too on the nose (to the point of literally saying that he IS Oden). It could seem like lazy and obvious writing if we take it at face value. But if you consider just how out of left field Yamato is as a Strawhat candidate -- appearing late into the arc out of seemingly nowhere, acting as a direct parallel of Roger's crewmate, being the son of a Yonkou -- it fits right in Oda's pattern of breaking the mold with each new member.
Everyone with Yamato: I could be thinking about hits too much, or maybe, I'm not thinking about this enough. In all seriousness, I think that's why everyone wants her to join, its been such a long time since we've had a regular straight answer, because (if you were not spoiled) we all went thru the process of a weekly reader, just in a much shorter time, with much less time to speculate. That's why Yamato feels so refreshing.
I'm pretty neutral on who will join next. Though I do question the emphasis on the idea that Oda is writing his story around surprising us and subverting expectations. There are certainly surprises in One Piece, but in my mind Oda isn't really the type of author that all about hitting his audience with twists. I would argue that most of One Piece is fairly predictable and the world building is Oda's real game. Heck half of his "twists" are probably aided by constant speculation about twists!
Well some twists can be predictable because oda set seeds for them unfortunately. If he just did twists out of know where then he just wouldn’t be a good author.
Haven’t everyone just been saying how Carrot is the next to join? Isn’t Yamato coming in and joining quickly instead of Carrot already a twist for all those who is arguing about Carrot even breaking into top10 favourite polls?
Actually most people have been very against Carrot joining. I don't think anyone in the community has made the argument that carrot will join in years.
@@bobbob-zc1nx Zeus is just part of Nami now. He'll probably be regulated to Nami's Clima-tact until she attacks or maybe popping up for comic relief. If Vivi came with them Carue would've gone along too, they're a package deal. They came to respect Carue, but it's not like they were on ship sad and missing Carue. That's how I see Zeus fitting in. It's not like Luffy is going to ask him to join the crew, Zeus is Nami's pet/weapon that can talk.
@Sakata Gintoki The strawhats need a lookout. Carrot has been shown being the lookout for the musketeers and has grown a close bond with many of the crew members and showed interest in joining. And nothing is stopping her from joining. If you use your brain on this it's not too hard to see why people think she will join. Just saying...
Great video as always Morj. But I gotta say I was reading weekly at thriller bark and I remember a lot of people myself included believed Brook would join well before the end of the arc. Maybe not from the moment luffy asked but as soon as it was revealed he had combat ability when he fought ryumma I was convinced and I dont recall a ton of dismissal of the idea.
Yamato being a child of a Yonko is kind of bad for me if she joins the crew. It would imply that Kaido,as an antagonist, is really special and his presence will always be part of the crew. Zeus makes sense since zeus isn't even part of the crew and is just a powerup for nami, he doesn't have any dynamic with the rest of the characters. Jimbei is somewhat a member of a Yonkou but his presence on the crew is not "Big mom" but represents the Fishman race and his journey with luffy in impel down to post marineford.
I think the fact that Oda can make someone like you, being great at analyzing, doubt it to this extent, is exactly doing what you said throughout the video. I totally get that you already addressed what you thought was the difference, but I legitimately believe that the fact that it needs to be debated this strongly, and that you can present so many points as to why it could not happen, fits well into the very same examples that you gave us. And it WOULD be VERY different from every other one so
But don't you think that Yamato fits the unpredictability you are talking about? Let's see it like this: Carrot was set to join, she was the clearest candidate we've had in so long, but out of nowhere Oda introduces Yamato, the son of a Yonko who has been so tied to the story of One Piece with stuff like Ace's vivre card. That was a crazy twist, no one saw it coming, it was really unique. When everyone though Carrot was the one, Yamato just appeared and took the story by storm. Yamato was a really unpredictable character, just because she said from the get go that she wanted to join doesn't necessarily means that is too obvious or the same thing as Robin or Brook. I think she fits the unpredictability pattern more than any character right now, if Oda were to pull another twist to for example make Carrot join after sidelining her for the past 100 chapter would be pretty weird.
This!! I agree his reasoning is totally flawed this way. Of course, knowing what people that joined or not, you could look for a reason that makes them stand out as different from the rest. Say for example pudding joined in whole cake island, "oh this is the first time thry have a character that is actually married to another strawhat now". Or say yamato joins "she is subversive since they were the first strawhat luffy sttaight up refused
I think you people are sacrificing the good writing part of Oda, just to say that Yamato will be joining like that is unpredictable. If Kaido suddenly died from cancer, or he just fell some stairs and died. I'm pretty sure the whole one piece community would be shocked by its unpredictability, but it would be really weird. I think its not always the five things Morj said that would clarify a character into being a straw hat, there has to be the emotional investment given to the character and the plot relevance. Right now, Yamato is on the spotlight sure, but her being introduced is so sudden that her story arc and the moment where she joins the crew will be rushed in the remaining acts of Wano. The readers have to be convinced that she would be joining the crew. That only thing that would make her a good candidate to join the crew, is that Wano becomes longer, or there is another arc after Wano where Yamato's story is more fleshed out and there would be a good story/ reason in which she has to join the crew.
@@vizgeraldine1921 Robin was not introduced in Alabasta but before, when she infiltrated the ship. She was the first Villain in the story who, did not attack and try to kill the main protagonists. She then saved Luffy in their first fight with Crocodile. Being a villain and helping the protagonists is an irony in itself, and shows the readers something is up. The only thing that would be hindering the readers to speculate that she joins is that, 1) She is 2nd in command of the current strongest villain and is powerful 2) Vivi existing which was in conflict with the direct recruitment of the strawhats. The surprise was her joining the crew, despite 1 and 2, but she didn't join out of nowhere due to "something was up" which was set up before.
I see your point Morj but what if the twist this time was just that, for the first time someone is requesting so aggressively to become a Strawhat? I would've believed what you think had Luffy actually already said yes, but he hasn't even acknowledged it. But who knows with Oda really? I'm ready for an ankle breaker!
I like the idea of a twist being Yamato the first (or only) Straw Hat that had to wear Luffy down. If i remember correctly Luffy is sometimes the one who hears no but never says it (to a serius candidate)
Hmmm...well when he was disguised and had his family beat usopp up, I didnt think so, when he was revealed i still didn't think so.. At this moment in time, franky stood out a lot from the more human looking characters, excluding chopper
I think the fact that Yamato joining the crew is so obvious makes it special and in a way surprising. None of the current Strawhats were super hyped about joining Luffy at the beginning (maybe except Brook). The idea that pretty much the first thing that we learn about Yamato is that she wants to join the crew is unique. Maybe Oda realized that everyone expects an unpredictable crewmate an it's precisely why he made such an obvious pick.
I believe Yamato will join and the twist is that Luffy will not want him to. Just the same as Oden with Whitebeard. It'd be really fitting and it'd be a nice way to see a Strawhat joining without Luffy inmediate authorization haha. Maybe we will even get a post-Wano period where Yamato follows the Sunny just like Oden followed Whitebeard's ship and Luffy is like "I don't want to" and Yamato doesn't give a single f*ck about it hahaha. And then probably something will happen in the next arc and then Yamato will be an official crew member. Just like how Robin didn't inmediatly became completely accepted by everyone and it was until Ennies Lobby that she really started forming part of them.
@Mr Morj at times is spot on. But on this one, I think he is overthinking things. Nobody expected Yamato to join when we just knew that Kaido has a son and that it is Yamato. NONE OF US. So in other words Oda has already used the unpredictable card bro. The only thing we need now is a more compelling backstory and dream. That's it. Yamato joining at this point would not be weird and it wouldn't go against Oda's method of being unpredictable because she (or he) is the child of a villain. Making Yamato a really unique addition.
@@SandraCuriel-mr1qn True. And the way Morj went on, if I didn't know better I'd feel he was talking about Carrot instead. If Oda ends up making Carrot join then I'd agree 100% that it was totally predictable and unlike Oda. Because people have been calling Carrot the next nakama from Zou Arc.
@@diegobromfield But if Carrot joins it would be actually a pretty big twist. Everyone is so sure Yamato is joining and that Carrot is just a secondary character, if she joins instead of Yamato it would be surprising for the majority of readers. Oda purposely sidelined Carrot for the majority of Wano for this reason.
I disagree on this one. I remember when I watched the first time Thriller Bark and I was 100% sure that Brook will join from the first second. And: ich just rewatched the whole Anime with a friend who is a first timer and he didn´t know anything from one piece. In the first Episode with Brook he told me that Brook wil join. He had no doubt. Also I don´t think Chopper was a big surprise but this is arguable. But I don´t think a lot of ppl doubted that Brook will join. Note: this is actually the first time that I´m really not on one page with you Morj. I see your point but Brook and maybe Chopper are no good examples. Sorry for the bad english, I´m not a native speaker.
I really agree. This is probably one of the rare occasions that I disagree with Morj. Yamato being introduced as a son of Kaido, then becoming a woman. A woman with a man complex. Really is unpredictable enough. I’d agree with Robin, and Franky. And Jinbei. But not with the rest of the crew.
I feel like with this one he’s trying to fit in a narrative so forcefully to make his case. Sanji, nami, Zoro and Usopp joining the crew shouldn’t be excluded, and I feel like he used the East blue narrative to simply strengthen his case. But it’s a divergent that we can’t just disqualify. If anything chopper and Brook were easy seats for nakaka to notice.
Your English is pretty damn good, but there is one mistake I want to point out, if you don't mind being corrected, because it could lead to you being misunderstood. When you say "hardly", it means "barely", or "not much". If you say "I hardly disagree", it means "I don't really disagree" / "I almost don't disagree", in other words, it means you mostly agree. "Hardly" doesn't mean "in a hard way". What you want to say in this case is "I firmly disagree" / "I heartily disagree" / "I very much disagree" / "I strongly disagree", etc...
I was thinking that as well... maybe Yamato will join in the most generic way and then we're about to leave Wano and another person just hops aboard or sneaks on or something and becomes a strawhat
I was definitely surprised when Franky ended up joining the crew during my initial readthrough. I love how colorful and interesting each crew member is.
I still have vivid memories of the shock I felt at Robin, Franky, and Brook joining. Jinbei wasn’t a surprise for me but that’s because Luffy and him had already connected during Marineford. I personally think there’s gonna be a parallel between Roger and Luffy at the end of Wano and Momo is going to join the Straw Hats the same way Oden joined the Roger pirates then Whitebeard pirates.
Yamato might not be unpredictable but she is strong, has a vision, probably will be the log keeper of the crew, fits into the dynamic of the crew, has a quirky personality (with I am Oden) and a LOT of gag potential (of her mimicing being everyone and Sanji freaking out). She fits into the crew perfectly. After Wano, Straw hats HAVE TO BE a Yonko crew. They need strong crew mates. Just like flying member or oven,daifuku, the candy guy, etc. The crew is too weak right now and Robin and Franky have fallen off. They are going to take on Blackbeard's crew after this. Level 6 strongest prisoners. The crew needs good fighters with strong haki. Also, fighting the WG wont be easy with just 4 strong crew members and Jimbie cant grow. Yamato has potential to grow. Not to mention, having a previous Yonko's child as a crewmate is a total flex or atleast thats how people in the one piece world will see it. The only thing that the crew will then lack, would be a apprentice. Momo is 50/50 because he has to serve as shogun and unite Wano unless Hiyori takes up that role and Momo joins the crew with Yamato being like a scabbard to him. Fulfills her dream of becoming partly Oden by protecting his child and also a strange twist from their father killing another to their child protecting another.
If someone had told me Kaido's son was going to join the crew before Wano I would have called them crazy. However, I think we'll have multiple new crew mates after Wano and Yamato is meant to throw you off the scent of other people who will join, while also calling back the nostalgia of the east blue intros.
I agree with you on so much of this list, except for the Brook introduction. It became clear that whilst funny there was a major difference between it and the other instances. Honestly Brook wasn’t all that surprising.
While I'm not entirely convinced that Yamato will join, I do agree with a lot of the other comments that "Yamato is too predictable" is sort of a self-defeating argument: if the pattern has become unpredictability, then the actually unpredictable thing is to do the predictable. Great video regardless! The Pauli speculation is a great point of comparison and one that is usually forgotten. Still, there are other Wano candidates that have been speculated on that I still think have a chance similar to Yamato's, depending how things turn out. The only popular one that I don't think has any chance unless things change radically (and would therefore personally surprise me the most) at this point is Carrot, because of how little focus there has been on her. PS: I was always a Jinbe believer, but I remember a lot of people being against him joining because of those arguments. But for me the fact that he was a) more of a mentor and b) a shichibukai were always great reasons for him joining, precisely because none of the other Strawhats were like that. It creates a Jinbe-shaped niche that truly makes him a great addition. People complaining that he was "too different" always seemed like a weird (but very popular at the time) argument to me.
Completly agree. Like you said great video, but who could be unpredictable and join the crew? Honestly, only the supernovas. I don’t think Yamato is that much less predictable than Momo, Marco, Tama or any other character the fandom discuss, and no other character have focus enough to become a straw hat. The only ones that have and are kinda unpredictable is Kid, Law and Killer, and honestly, I wouldn’t like that.
But like it is said the the video, almost everybody is so sure about Yamato joining the crew. Oda knows his fans that adding a character who is 1) A pretty girl with huge chests 2) Melee Combatant 3) Great character design 4) Super OP (Challenges a Yonkou, One shots a Number). If that character says "Hey man im joining the crew", a lot of people reading would be onboard with that. They would forget that 1) Yamato's Story is directly tied to Wano 2) Her being too strong is kind of weird in the narrative of the story about underdogs. 3) What she can add to impact the story moving forward For me, it is jarring seeing her say "I am Oden", so what then if she says that AFTER she joins and is part of SH. It would be extremely Jarring, fighting Blackbeard or WG, and then she says "I am Oden", readers would be like "That's like last 2 arcs ago, say something new". And then you'll realize that oh why is she still on that, that was so long ago. And unlike Zeus, She isn't a powerup of one character.
@@davidv1341 Her story arc is probably getting resolved in this arc, probably in her fight against Kaido. She might discuss what she read in the journal, and at the end of the arc will accept that she isn’t Oden
@@George-km9bz Yeah, her story should resolve at Wano since Wano is the almost the Main Arc of New World. But no SH character has been introduced in the middle of the main arc, and is added in the crew afterwards. Robin was introduced beforehand so readers know her whole character before she joined. Without the First meeting before Alabasta, Robin it would be introduced in the middle of Alabasta and would be a character written out of nowhere.
Unpredictability isn't always Oda thing when it comes to strawhat candidates tho. For Brook it was fairly obvious (atleast for me) that he would join despite how many people Luffy had asked until then. Brook not only had a stand out design, but he instantly made a connection with Luffy and got a backstory that also connects in some way to the rest of the crew. Despite the feints Oda tried to throw out throughout the arc i was still convinced Brook would join, and he did. Super predictable. Chopper was also predictable, for the same reasons as Brook. So Yamato can still join even though it feels predictable.
honestly I don't think we'll have another straw hat besides the ones already in the crew. luffy said his crew would be made up of 10 people and blackbeard's crew (which are the strawhats foils) has 10 people.
If you are always unpredictable, then what's more unpredictable than being absolutely predictable? Also Yamato is the first "possible Staw Hat" to actively ask Luffy first to be on the crew the first time they meet. Everyone else had to be asked first or convinced.
Nope, she didn't ask when they first met before Alabasta on the Merry and it was only after Luffy saved her from Crocodile that she saw he was a good person and asked to join after Alabasta.
Deffo. I was expecting vivi from the get go and was genuinely shocked to see that robin had snuck in and asked to join. Franky too, I was expecting paulie. Not that I wanted him or anything, I just thought cuz he was one of the only legit shipwrights to be betrayed and the fact that he worked with luffy and had more screen time than the others led me to think he would sail with them..
To people saying that the twist with Yamato is that there is no twist....that's only "unpredictable" writing if readers expect a twist in the first place. Most readers *don't* expect a twist and immediately take Yamato's words at face value, which is why Yamato is overwhelmingly the most popular choice for straw hat at the moment.
I just made this video to remind people that we should be expecting a twist, because historically most people do just look for "easy fit" straw hat candidates, and that is clearly still the case with Yamato.
I mean I think this video just made me think even more that Yamato is the unpredictable character Oda introduced. I mean a year and a half ago NO ONE would have expected that the son of Kaido would be the next strawhat candidate that was a HUGE twist.
Hey Morj i think one thing people dont talk about enough when guessing new crewmates is the role in which they fit in like cook doctor etc. What do you think which roles could be filled or even need to be filled now on the ship, and then its mre interesting to look who can fill that role
@@grynbal26 Nah, clearly the nakama is Kaido himself
+Mr Morj Are you saying that even only one OP fan doesn't expect a twist from Oda?
Sorry that's smoking bs
Hey Morj, was this in response to the point that I made?
I knew Brook was joining, Luffy wanted a musician more than anything else
exactly, brook was like the esiest. a musician nakama was the most fluffy wanted lol
he said he wanted one before the grand line
Luffy wanted a musician first before everything else so brook joining was a no brainer
Sure you did
So did i it fit really well and getting his shadow back was a perfect mission for the Arc.
Honestly, I never once got fooled by the gags around Brook. I didn't even think I was actually supposed to. I mean come on... We had him come on the ship and have a massive heart to heart with the crew as soon as he was introduced. Then a strange sudden goodbye. Then the strawhats immediately set out on the destination where he lost his shadow, which already had been stated as the reason he wasn't joining us. Compare THAT to the gag with the tree Luffy invited XD
And many people forget, even Morj somehow, that Brook revealed he was a musician the first chapter after he got introduced. Right before they get interrupted by Perona's ghost. And that Luffy wanted a musician since forever. As a weekly manga reader I clearly remember that many of us were convinced he would join (even if not everyone was convinced).
@@DobleD1997 Absolutely. Oda did just enough to not make it absolute
@@strawhatrore2072 that is Morjes point... It was not a given, hidden behind gags
@@jukaa1012 Nope! haha Listen to 9:52 again. "It was framed as a joke" and "very few people believed he would actually join". His point is that it was a twist that he did. I'm saying it was super obvious, and Oda was just trying to not make it a 100% given. The context makes it starkly different to the gag of Luffy inviting the other zombies
@@strawhatrore2072 agree. and if you're gonna reread or rewatch the arcs that the SHs joined, it seems pretty obvious.
As a weekly reader since Ennies Lobby, never had a doubt of Brook joining the crew, same with Jimbei, but since them, noone look significant enough until Yamato, and I don't believe for a second Caesar or Carrot joining.
Franky joining was impossible to predict at the beggining of Water Seven, until the final fights of the arc, when he fight alongside the strawhats.
Why is Yamato significant? Because the first thing she said was that she wanted to join the crew?
This comment contradicts itself, it’s claiming Yamato is the only possible candidate then says Franky was impossible to predict, that’s just more reason to look at characters other than Yamato, even if they seem unlikely or impossible.
Putting carrot in the same pool as Caesar? Lol. Let's just forget about him, but give carrot a fair chance. I was never fooled by brook or Jimbei either, and I never believed Yamato would join.
I thought it was obvious by aqua lagoona when uusops argument with luffy was mirrored by frankly and frankly knock USO’s in to see for himself
@@shadeslayer5402 did you change your mind after 7 months? Cuz Yamato sure do be looking promising ngl especially since luffy and yamato have the crew chemistry and her relationships with ace
Luffy actually REFUSING someone who desperately wants to be on the crew (most likely for their own sake or the sake of others) is a way better twist then Yamato actually joining right away.
you mean like he will refuse Tama ? because she is too young ?
Kinda like why shanks refused luffy ?
I want to share a theory with you I think king will join the straw hats and Yamato will die to kaido luffy will beat kaido and king would acknowledge luffys strength and offer to become a part of his crew as a look out
A big twist would be Yamato accepting the fate of becoming the shogun of Wano since she is so against it. I think she will probably be the shogun and train momo to become the shogun eventually.
@@pablosalazar812 I agree, Everything about her is about Wano. And almost every member of the crew is introduced before the arc they joined. Even Robin, who was a surprising addition, was introduced separately with her meeting the crew early on before the main alabasta arc. Yamato is literally out of nowhere. My guess is that she will be one of the Red Scabbards, replacing Kanjuro, and also maybe part shogun together with Momo.
True, besides Yamato has 2 other captains that she can go sail around with, assuming Kidd and Tra survive...
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It was unintentional but now that I know about Stephen I swear to you he will never be included in any poll on this channel
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Every strawhat has been predictable once a bit of information is revealed. As soon as Chopper was revealed to be a Doctor you knew where it was going, Brook was a given as soon as he was revealed to be a musician. Water 7 was between the Rope guy or Franky. Robin was the only one that came out of nowhere. Jimbe was a given as friend of Luffy with connection to Ace + Fishmen. It was pretty predictable to the people in my circle I assumed it was the same with everyone else.
Maybe Oda knows that we've caught on that the Straw Hats who join are unpredictable, so he was being unpredictable by giving us a predictable straw hat, Yamato.
Exactly. But we didn't buy it, so oda will not actually make yamato one of the crew.
Doesnt Nami break the standard East Blue recruitment? She did not join when asked by Luffy during her introduction in the Buggy arc. She then steals the Going Merry and seemingly is a villain. Then we learn her situation and backstory and Luffy rescues her. So it was not until 2 arcs after meeting Nami she joined the crew. That method of joining seems like Robin’s where a character comes aboard but isn’t a crew member. Then 2 arcs later the crew rescues that character and they become a permanent member. Granted Nami tagging along was less of a shock then Robin, but seemingly the methodology of how they ultimately joined was similar.
I think Nami is deliberately made to do that because she is a female character and is given more screen time for the readers to be emotionally attached. It also gave the readers time to hate the villains of their arc (Out of the villains in East blue, Arlong has the most personal relationship with a SH crew, due to Nami's Backstory). because its a shonen anime with a lot of male fans, the fans would accept a girl calling for help instead of a guy calling for help. That's why among the characters , it is Nami and Robin who usually calls luffy for help. (Arlong Park and Enies Lobby arcs, and their last moments against Kuma)
@@davidv1341 Possibly. Although Sanji also asked for help in WCI in a similar vein to Nami / Robin. He tried to take the burden on himself, left the crew, and after Luffy / Straw Hats come to save him he did end up asking Luffy for his help.
@@flippnwhat Yes, although he is male character, he is one of the strawhats who is always portraited as kind and humble. That's why he is the one who asks luffy for help. Not because he cannot escape, but because he wants to help his family to escape who is being held hostage (despite being a toxic family). He feels responsible to help them since they are his family and is part of his character development of being a kind person.
@@davidv1341 Yeah but saying it’s because Nami is female I don’t believe really works because of Sanji is what I’m getting at. Then again it very well could be the case and he has since changed his view on his audience and is willing to tread a similar narrative in WCI with Sanji.
@@flippnwhat Yeah, it might be that he changed his view due to the society and his audience being progressive. But I think of all the male strawhats, It would be Sanji, because he is the one portrayed as humble, even if he is one of the main fighters. Chopper or Usopp asking for help may seem okay, but for their character development is weird because the two of them has a narrative that they have something to prove to the world that they are strong. Zoro and Franky are known to be bad asses and manly. I'm not sure with brook, but since Sanji is one of the Main 5, a story revolving him would sound better.
Yamato is actually a wrench in the mix. She has been thrown into the battle chaos halfway through the arc. People are speculating but that's because we're reading on a weekly basis. Binging the arc will feel different.
Yamato is also about to get a flashback just like the other strawhats. Oda does throw a wrench but he still leaves a similar element connecting every strawhat.
We all know the next Straw Hat is the NEW OKAMA QUEEN BON CHAN
Toei: You’re going to voice two Straw Hats now!
Franky’s VA: I’m getting double pay, right?
Toei: …
Franky’s VA: I’m getting double pay, right?!
The dream team 😔
@@TehZergRush i imagined it with nami's voice 😂😂😂
Nope Yamato don’t join
Always has been
While people were expecting Carrot or the must absurd, Katakuri joining, now we have another Yonkou children who can join the crew, and yet he is subverting expectations again
Zeus joined first :B
Zeus has a dream: He doesn't want to die being hated by everyone.
Zeus has a tragic backstory: He's a homie made of Big Mom's soul who kept failing her to the point he was almost eaten alive.
Zeus is a gag character.
10/10 Straw Hat material
I thought it was kind of obvious that vivi wouldn’t join the crew because a big theme of that saga was her responsibility for the alabasta kingdom
Franky's arc from stealing the crew's money until joining the main cast, is my favourite character arc to me!
The crazy part is, that arc was actually for Robin. Franky was just a side character that arc but he was just so charismatic that he somehow made himself so likable :d
Right?! Having that money in the back of your mind that whole arc till you see the sunny, very awesome
That was the only straw hat I didn't know was gonna join because I couldn't recognize his design and heck I was surprsied when he became a good guy
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I want to share a theory with you I think king will join the straw hats and Yamato will die to kaido luffy will beat kaido and king would acknowledge luffys strength and offer to become a part of his crew
Don't let all this things distract you from the inevitable fact, that the raid on Onigashima is going to fail.
I think the catch here is that it seemed like Carrot was going to join, but now it has become very unlikely. Also, since Luffy fought Big Mom's son in the last arc, it seemed like it would be the same here for Kaido's son, but then Oda surprised us with the revelation.
Morj is thinking in the context of the current chapters, but it's like when Robin helped Luffy in the later half of Alabasta, Franky became an ally during Enies Lobby, Brook's past was revealed, etc.
I want to share a theory with you I think king will join the straw hats and Yamato will die to kaido luffy will beat kaido and king would acknowledge luffys strength and offer to become a part of his crew as a look out
Oh I still think Carrot has a higher chance than Yamato. Not only did Oda purposely establish a connection with the crew as well as threads for future arcs as well as a legitimate position in the crew which has been tried and tested (her role as lookout as demonstrated in the last third of WCI).
Carrot is easily one of One Pieces biggest anomalies. She's been written in such a way where Oda actually has to justify why she wouldn't want to stay with the Straw Hats because nothing from the story so far has shown that she doesn't want to continue with them, the opposite in fact. Meanwhile Yamato has a lot going against her. The lack of any viable role in the crew (not inherently necessary but seemingly a pattern Oda has taken to). Her knowledge of potential future events and the One Piece (something Luffy doesn't want to know and a role which could easily make Robin less relevant). Strength enough to go toe to toe with a Yonko (something even Luffy can barely do).
A lot of people are saying Carrot won’t join because she took a back seat since wano started, but to me her role was just consolidated with the rest of the Minks for a little bit. I don’t think her story is done yet.
@@rindoubaka1574 If you think Carrot has a bigger chance then that is just your own bias. She certainly does not have a higher chance. Still possible but Yamato is definitely #1 Strawhat candidate with no competition in my opinion.
@@LordTails66 Well then that is also your bias. Go on then, Elaborate. Why does she have a bigger chance.
I think Yamato theirselves is the twist. Think about all the bucks up to wano and in all of that we were never told about Kaido having a kid and now that kid wants to join the strawhats? After we just had a long arc that had kids being loyal to their parent in big mom.
We are also nearing the end. When we first hear oof Kaido's, we all thought they would be an on Kaido's side
This is my thought as well, Also the lead up making us think its Carrot, Momo, then Tama. Those were the red hearings, and Yamato is the twist. The daughter/son of a Yonko joins luffy, that is a great way to top a Warlord.
Pro-tip, "theirselves" is not a word. Neither is "theirself". It's "themself / themselves".
@@MarkHogan994 Woa grammar snob on a one piece video. Pro Tip no one cares ^.^
I find it funny that thriller park had so many wano references, and now they both have characters who want(ed) to join the strawhats right away.
I think it's interesting that Brook got introduced in chapter 489 and Yamato got introduced in chapter 984 (the same number but reversed). Oda loves doing tha kind of stuff.
@@thegreatsilence1915 wait... no way... is this why yamato wasnt inteoduced earlier in the arc?!
@@danooshansureshkumar8405 Actually I misremembered. 489 is the chapter where Brook formally joins the crew (just checked), when he is personally talking about Laboon with Luffy.
It's titled "The eight" in reference of Brook being the eight member of the crew.
984 is indeed where Yamato got her infobox.
The next surprise:
Nobody joins because we have so many characters who could potentially join the crew.
#Nobody4Nakama
Bigger twist, everyone joins, especially Kaido
Zeus already joined
Remember everyone Vivi is a Strawhat she's just not sailing Whit them but she is a Strawhat.
So much this
Yamato has an obvious and specific purpose that aligns with when she gets introduced, and it's so straightforward that I understand why Oda would want to make it more interesting by having Yamato want to join the crew so badly
It's simple. If Tama converts tons of pirates over to their side, and Kaido gets beaten, who is going to lead all of these leftover animal pirates? Who would they actually follow in the longer term?
Kaido's son, easy. Not Tama, because Wano won't really be free until all of Kaido's lackeys are totally gone, and she's not going out to see with a bunch of ex-kaido pirates lol. But they can't all leave and then not be allied with the straw hats, so we'll give them a leader that's extremely sympathetic to the straw hats. Then it goes like this-
Yamato: "I really wanna join the crew Luffy!"
Everyone else: "Welcome to the grand Fleet!"
Tada, done. Then as they're sailing away and we think it's all over, Momo or Tama pop out of a barrel
Introducing after two acts that Kaido has a son, that finally appears to be a female who, autoproclames herself to be Oden and that wants to join the crew seems like quite a twist for me xd
I believe you are missing the bigger picture. Yamato IS the twist. Since Zou people have bandwagoned into the "Carrot for Nakama" idea, even giving her a tragic moment in WCI (mentor death), showing her drive, etc. That plus Carrot's placements in the popularity polls tells me that Oda knew people were inclined to accepting Carrot as nakama.
And yet, so very late in the arc, he introduces a female with a tragic backstory, daughter of the antagonist, who wishes to side with Luffy and join the crew. NOBODY was expecting the sudden appearance of a decently shocking candidate. Not only that, but it throws back to the days of the East Blue: since then we've been led to believe that no more teenager dreamers with backstories would joink, and thus another one joining goes against our assumptions.
OK so why would Oda make Carrot the perfect Nakama candudate, give her a reason to legitimately want to sail on with the people she has grown attached to and give her an actual tried and tested role within the crew just to pull the rug under our feet and tell us some random person who appeared out of nowhere will be joining instead. There's subversive writing and then there is crappy writing.
@@rindoubaka1574 You are really mad at how the manga is going. If Oda doesn't cater to your specific wishes, it doesn't mean it's "crappy writing". Carrot has been far from a "perfect" candidate 90% of the time. Sit down.
Dude, I was a biiig #carrotfornakama fan myself, but even I can admit that it's highly unlikely or even impossible for her to join now.
Who knows, maybe she really is the Pauli-like character red herring of Yamato. It wouldn't make her character useless, since she already did a lot (as did Pauli at the end of Water 7 in the Iceberg Mansion)
@@rindoubaka1574 Carrot is definitely not being written to be the next Strawhat lol. Sorry to burst your bubble.
@@mochiman7602 No, it's crappy writing. Allow me to Elaborate.
First there is Yamato's introduction. A plot hole in itself. The alliance were actively seeking information in regards to Kaido and his army trying to find anything which may help their cause. Robin learnt pretty much everything, even down to the smallest and weirdest details. Yet she nor anyone else ever once heard of Kaido's child who is openly rebellious towards Kaido and actively causes him problems presumably frequently. Because she was a late addition written in by Oda to solve a problem, aka the log books for Oden. She certainly wasn't planned, or at least if she was there was no clever build up or foreshadowing. Just an exposition dump on her first appearance.
Then you have how contrived her motivations are. This incredibly strong child of Kaido who is openly rebellious of Kaido was also great friends with Ace and therefore actively accepts Luffy as her leader as if she was a dog. I mean Jinbe was one thing, he was put in Impel Down alongside Ace because of his refusal to fight against the Whitebeard Pirates thus him being around when Luffy reached the cell. Yamato however, the oppressed daughter of Kaido just so happens to be great friends with Ace and idolises Luffy because it's an easy and convenient way to get her on Luffy's side without Oda needing to bother actually building her up as a character.
And then we go into meta reasons. If Yamato was introduced primarily to join the Straw Hats just to increase the crews strength, that's lazy. Jinbe was a huge strength boost for the crew yet his entry was justified and built up. We're reaching the Endgame now so any huge adjustments to the crew shouldn't just be some dues ex machina bullshit that literally pops up out of nowhere halfway through a crucial arc with absolutely no build up.
Basically Yamato was a late minute addition by Oda and one he realised he needed to get people to immediately like which is why within her first couple chapters she's suddenly the absolute best person for Luffy to have on his side. It's pretty lazy. Yet One Piece fans Yelp anything Oda writes up.
Oda using reverse psychology lol he fooled us so many times now we just think it should be unpredictable
Yamato would be unpredictable since we have been toying with the idea of carrot for years now
Whether its true or not and that we think it should be unpredictable, the fact is Yamato joining is predictable no matter how you twist it.
I think there's something really cool that you didn't touch on. The first five Strawhats, Luffy included, serve a story purpose elevated from the others. First is Luffy, the captain and main character. Then came Zoro, the first mate and complementary contrast character to Luffy. Then came Nami, the navigator and emotional gate that Oda uses to guide the readers' emotions. Fourth came Usopp, the sniper who brought an entirely new dynamic to the Strawhats, cowardice. Then finally, in the east blue, we have Sanji, the cook who becomes the tactical character going forward.
There's structure to these first five. You have the captain, three complementarian generals, and the character the readers can easily empathize with. Each character brings a whole new dynamic. Luffy is carefree and emotion driven. Zoro is extremely cautious and pride driven. Nami is an emotional character who hides it as best she can. Usopp is a coward who has to struggle to find his own way in life. Finally, Sanji is the first smart fighter in the Strawhats, but he's just as emotion driven as Luffy.
What's even cooler is what happens in the grand line. You're right in that they weren't expected, but what makes it so amazing is that with knowledge of what happens you can go back and see all of the foreshadowing Oda put in for the characters. The one thing that links each and every member that has joined in the grand line is that they needed Luffy. Chopper needed Luffy; Chopper didn't just need someone to take him out to see the world, but he needed someone with an unbreaking joyous spirit. He needed Luffy. Nico Robin needed Luffy; when she's first introduced she has the opportunity to end Vivi's attempt at saving Alabasta, but she doesn't. Her conversation makes it seem like she's fishing for something, and she even provides the crew with the means to bypass a year long wait. Then at the end of the battle Nico is the only character to betray Crocodile. She clearly needed something, and later it's revealed that she needed Luffy. Franky needed Luffy; from the beginning it is demonstrated that Franky has a need for family, but as the story goes the reader learns why Franky needs more than just the broken family he has but needs a family with a dream. I don't think I need to explain how Brooke needed Luffy. Jinbei needed Luffy; Jinbei is interesting because his need for Luffy is weird. There's the surface level of duty Jinbei feels towards Luffy because Jinbei promised Ace, but then there's the deeper level of Luffy chipping away at Jinbei's duties. Jinbei feels a duty to protect Otohime's dream, but Luffy shows up and shows that humans and fishmen can coexist. Jinbei feels a duty to protect Fishman island, but Luffy shows up and declares Fishman Island his own to protect. Then, at what appeared to be Jinbei's death, Jinbei seemed to feel a duty to go down with his crew, and Luffy strictly forbid him from doing so.
There's one extra layer here. The characters that didn't join the crew didn't need Luffy specifically. Vivi didn't need Luffy; she just needed someone to save her kingdom. Paulie didn't need Luffy; he needed someone to protect Iceburg. Iceburg didn't need Luffy; he needed assurance from the government. Rebecca and Kyros didn't need Luffy; they needed someone to beat Doflamingo.
With all of this in mind. I do think Yamato will be the final Strawhat member. It appears that Momo doesn't need Luffy, but Momo needs a strong role model. Carrot doesn't appear to have a need per se, and Yamato genuinely appears to need Luffy. Yamato appears to have a need for the will of D that Luffy and Ace possesses.
I agree. All the SHs that joined needed to be with Luffy to achieve their dreams.
Zoro - best swordsman
Nami - draw a map of the world
Usopp - brave warrior of the sea
Sanji - find All Blue
Chopper - cure all diseases
Robin - read poneglyph, know the blank history
Franky - have his dream ship sail across the world
Brook - meet Laboon
Jinbei - for humans and fishmen to coexist
Yamato won't achieve his dream by staying in Wano. He has to sail out, and I think there is more to it that we don't know yet. It might be revealed in the backstory.
How does this only have 23 likes?
Yamamoto needs luffy' D
@@obiefunandulue3466 cause not everybody agree🤣obviously
@@pitoseavy4523 you wet cloth
Chopper was really obvious after we saw his hybrid form and learned that he was a doctor. Pretty early in the arc and not long at all after he got introduced. I watched the anime as a kid, and maybe I got spoiled by the opening I don't remember quite well, but I was certain that Chopper was going to join even as a kid.
I think the point is that we didn't expect a talking reindeer to be the next strawhat, considering how all strawhats so far were human. But yes, as soon as he was introduced, it was pretty open that Chopper would be the next crewmate.
Hybrid form? His devil fruit is paramacia not zoan
I was pretty sure that Brooke was gonna join since luffy always wanted a bard
This is gonna be a long one bois.
By your definition of how Oda subverts and creates the most unexpected situations for a new crew member to join, Yamato is one of the most unpredictable and left-field characters to join. When it comes down to it unexpected/subverting , to you, means that last minute before the arc ends a character you might have had reservations, or never thought about joining does in fact, join.
- Chopper denied joining Luffy until Luffy solved the problem with Drum Kingdom and free'd chopper from what bound him to the island and right at the end of the arc decided to join.
- Robin as an enemy randomly turned up on ship and became a member with her story to later be solved by Luffy once again.
- Franky again was an enemy who we had no inkling would join, he even denied it at the end to stay with the Franky family, but after a gag with his underpants and with Luffy somewhat avenging Tom by beating CP9 and destroying Enies Lobby, he joined.
- Brook was asked straight away, once his backstory was revealed and he was saved by Luffy, he asked if it was alright if he joined, but the offer was already extended to him so it wasn't really a question of whether he would. He was pretty much a given and no one was surprised when he joined. Probably the least surprising of them all tbh.
-Jinbei was asked almost on a whim on Fishman Island and out of left-field and then happened to be with Big Mom where he was able to free himself to join with Luffy. We don't know how long it would've taken Jinbei to turn up or if he would've at all if Luffy wasn't involved in WCI.
Now take a look at Yamato, as unexpected as these new crew members were at this point it's almost expected for Oda to do the unexpected, so we are looking past Yamato, when in fact her/his obviousness is in itself unexpected.
-Yamato is the only potential crew member who luffy didn't ask to join but who her/himself exclaimed that she/he will join.
-Yamato doesn't have any dream to be the best at something but her/his dream is to simply sail the seas and now that I think about it she/he is also fulfilling the dream of another, being Oden and his dream to free wano. She/he is actively taking her own hand in achieving this when compared to past crewmember positions. Yamato is fighting Kaido and will fight Kaido in the upcoming chapters. Luffy wasn't the resolution to her problem but a catalyst for her to resolve it herself which she is trying to do.
-All the other strawhats had to be "saved" by Luffy before they considered joining whereas Yamato asked before any of this took place.
-Regular Strawhats all have backstories independent of Luffy. It can be argued that through Ace however, that Luffy is part of Yamato's backstory. Yamato wanted to be free and she certainly wanted to be able to sail the sea's with Ace but after she/he heard of his death and possibly after reading some of Oden's journal in tandem with reading about Luffy's exploits you could easily theorize she/he has been waiting for him so she/he can sail with him or with "joyboy".
I think the reason you think Yamato isn't the one who joins isn't that Oda didn't throw her/him out of left-field or that he didn't subvert but just the fact that she/he said it herself and that she/he stated it in her introduction so long ago. In reality, when you look, at it everything about Yamato and her/his will to join is completely unique and "left-field" when compared to any other straw hat. I'd be willing to bet that when she said right off the bat she wants to sail with Luffy, actually, I'm not gonna bet because it's a fact that everyone was shocked and no one was ready for it. You appeal a lot to the "if you look back" phrase but in Yamatos case you don't look back at the ways she/he adheres to all the unexpectedness you say Oda delivers with.
I had a lot more reasons listed for her but my fucking phone died when I was typing this first and I couldn't remember what I wrote the first time.
He didn't say Yamato isn't joining the crew. He said be a little more skeptical because this looks like a red herring.
@@redx589 But Brook was a red herring too and look what happened.
@@isabelv7740 No he wasn't?
@@redx589 yes and if he's saying it looks like a red herring he's implying that he believes Yamato won't join.
Yamato fanboys always go above and beyond smh
nah Brook was pretty obvious, a musician with an afro. i was convinced the moment i saw the afro.
I don’t know even after watching this video I think Yamato’s chances are even higher. You saying that this is totally different and feels weird are exactly the same feelings readers had after standards of the East blue introductions.
I think Oda is playing with our expectations again by having a powerful, late arc character claim that they are joining without Luffy asking is unique and exactly the point. As with Brook at first, many aren’t taking Yamato’s claim seriously because we do not know of their backstory, dream, and thematic relevance to the arc.
But I can also see Yamato not joining because of the Ace flashback in 999. Ace mentions that Yamato is strong enough to have their own crew and I can see Luffy saying the exact thing by the end of Wano
I am NOT saying Yamato can’t join because she’s strong. I am saying I can see Luffy saying the same thing Ace said and have her start her own crew.
@@Dr.Farewell that's exactly what happened with Oden-WB and Jinbe-luffy...
@@Dr.Farewell well, he said that he didn't understand how someone so strong wasn't a captain. But isn't that an extremely weird reason to give anyway? I mean, saying that would mean Luffy deems Zoro, Sanji and Jinbei too weak to be captains lol
@@Dr.Farewell Strong enough to have their own crew is a very vague statement. There's no strength prerequisite to having your own crew. Zoro and Sanji could both be captains on their own, Ace actually was a captain of his own crew before he joined WB. That seems like an odd reason for Luffy to decline... he has no reason to anyway.
my logic is simple .... if Yamato has read the jounel and he knows the some end game secrets .......She is never gonna join ....
But if morj is expecting the next straw to b introduced in an unpredictable manner that in it of itself is predictable because he knew it would be unpredictable therefore it became predictable. So the only way to introduce the next straw hat in an unpredictable manner is by making it predictable. haha!
ikr haha
Lmao exactly what I was thinking in regards to the Yamato situation
In short, Oda is playing 4D chess while we plebs are playing 3D
Which means the next strawhat is gonna be unpredictable because that would be the only way to make it predictable - which is now unpredicable because idjafjåioajmbe Pasifista.exe.404ShutdownCP69pantiesyohoho
Knowing that it will be unpredictable doesn't mean that you can predict the right prediction.
Just the fact that the son/daughter of the main antagonist would join the strawhats makes yamato's character unpredictable
Not really... because the first thing we see of her is her asking to join.
Fun fact Yamato's existance is convenient and contrived
Yamato is the child of Kaidou, is the only character that has asked to join Luffy, and knows about Luffy's dream beyond becoming Pirate King, which as far as we know the only other character alive that knows that dream is Sabo, so Yamato and Luffy already have a special bond even if Luffy doesn't know it yet
Don’t forget Brooke he was the first one to ask
@@dibyakarina4107 actually Robin was the first one to ask
@@dibyakarina4107 I know what you mean lol I meant before Luffy even asked them because Luffy asked Brook to join him before Brook asked Luffy
What's Luffy's dream beyond becoming pirate king
@@Ethereal_Night_96 We don't know for sure yet what Luffy's dream is beyond Pirate King but Luffy declared something during the Ace, Sabo, Luffy flashback and whatever he said was cut off from us seeing and the same thing happened in Oden's backstory with Roger saying something in an almost identical way being cut off from us seeing again. In chapter 1000, Ace tells Yamato what Luffy said but whatever he said again was cut out, and Ace tells Yamato "that's at the end of my little brother's dream" and "Sure, when Luffy first said it we laughed, but that's okay!! Nobody else can laugh!! We believe in him!!" and Yamato says "I'm not going to laugh at him" and then thinks "Those were the words the King of the Pirates spoke. Words that stunned Oden."
But wasn't Yamato's introduction so late in the arc out of left field? That wasn't surprising? Or the face that there was an added twist to that introduction? Or the fact she shared focus with Luffy during chapter 999 and 1000? Both milestone chapters, mind you. So, yeah, Yamato is surprising, but also obvious.
It was surprisingly but in a bad way. If Luffy fought Kaido, and Kaido fell down some stairs and died, I would be geniunely surprised. That's like how I feel if Yamato is suddenly added in the crew. She suddenly introduced in the middle of the arc, no foreshadowing whatsoever, suddenly the one of the strongest of the main forces who is willing to fight Kaido 1v1. I think it would make more sense if she is now one of the Scabbards,replacing kanjuro, or part shogun who protects Momo because of her strength, since she is super strong. She would be the Oden that became Shogun, which I think is better suited for her, and not be suddenly, one of the main characters.
@@davidv1341 I agree that her introduction was too late and should've had some foreshadowing. But the topic was 'surprising' introduction and left field additions. Rather or not she joins is up in the air, but with the amount of focus and attention she's gotten so far... Hard to ignore overall.
@@davidv1341 i think she will join if she stop referring herself like oden and accept herself who she/he is. I think that why when she asked luffy if she can join the crew. He didn’t say anything like he used to like when broke joined. That what I think
Sorry for my bad English!
@@tsmith101591 While her screentime is focused right now than the other side characters, I believe that its one of the narratives of the wano arc which Oda is rushing to give focus on due to her being introduced too late while being one of the main characters of the arc. It's like in Dressrosa where King Riku, kyros and his family are given focus as part of the story arc, and even gave Kyros a major fight with diamante, despite not being on the grand fleet. She would need screentime so that the viewers may have emotional investment with her current goals, but she would need even more screen time if she will be one of the main characters, since the readers should be convinced that she is joining and is part of the crew, rather than just part of the current story arc.
@@baniini2021 I think there will certainly be a narrative where Yamato will accept she is herself, since Oda implies that she is delusional (Ulti said she is and Luffy said she is a liar because she is not Oden, when everyone loves oden). It would also be weird if Yamato didn't fix her delusion with Oden and joined, like if they are now fight Blackbeard and WG, she says "she is Oden", that would be very jarring because that is only relevant in Wano.
Yamato joining isn't weird because every character joining breaks a pattern of how a character joins the crew, and still there's some patterns even after Jinbei, the first I think and the one I think Yamato will break is, every character join the crew after Luffy invited, and I can totally see Yamato going into Luffy ship claiming that she'll go with him and become a new nakama without even Luffy asking and he won't even care about it
Its not so much that the idea of her joining is weird, its more on how oda writes and likes to throwout curveballs..
Have you forgoten the eay robin joined?
@@NeroPiroman Although Luffy didn't ask, there was a question, from Robin, so a crew joining without question still could be a possibility
Nah because thatd be identical to how Robin joined the crew. Oda def wouldn’t do that twice
@@michaelli925 well I mean...its been over 10 years.. And oda has repeated quite a few themes in this series..
"Oda always tries to surprise us with the next strawhat"
"Yamato has a seriously portrayed motivation to join - this has NEVER happened before"
Well.... Yamato joining seems like a surprise by this logic, no?
No, but seriously now, I can actually argue for and against Yamato, the stronger feeling though is a kind of in-between 'temporary' addition, like Vivi or Carrot at this point
Everyone Oda is gonna make the biggest twist for the last straw hat
Oda: slowly slips in Yamato as a full fledged crew member without anyone noticing
slowly? are you joking? she asked to take her on the ship immediately after she got introduced xd
@@padrenuestre don't waste time, these people are delusional
@@patoshippuden7199 I agree. Their want for Yamato to join very shallow. Their argument is always based on her Overpowered strength, good character design, the "What if the twist is no twist", and the waifu based thinking. I don't really know if they watch Morj's videos since all of Morj's videos and theories and based on current data gathered from the story by using critical thinking.
and then he didnt
The problem with your argument is that you can’t say, “Oda looks for new ways to surprise us with a new crew member” and then say this is why we should be skeptical about Yamato joining. You’ve said yourself in many videos that everything about Yamato’s introduction is weird, and not how Oda normally does things.
The fact Oda has been dangling Carrot in our faces for years, but then brings in Yamato who purposely mirrors how Oden forced his way onto Whitebeard’s crew… Yamato is the clear front runner. Is it a guarantee? No. But your video just adds to the argument of Yamato being the next Strawhat.
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Agreed. Everyone was getting ready for Carrot. Nobody expected Yamato. That’s the twist.
@@yousefabdullah5982 What's there to expect when Yamato was literally introduced in the middle of the raid when there was no mention of her existence beforehand?
@@KatsuImagitian Exactly. Her whole introduction was unexpected.
Morj does have an issue with setting up how Oda does something then puts out a theory that contradicts how he just described Oda's patterns.
i feel like the gag will be that yamato wants to join but luffy rejects her… at first
You didn't get the point of the video. It has nothing to do with gags per se.
You say that Oda is looking for ways to break the pattern yet you keep applying old conventions on Wano as if it follows the formula of every other arc. Is it not possible that of all the times to break away from the mold it would be in the biggest arc with the biggest repercussions and impact?
Hey Morj, I saw this vid when it came out, but I just remembered the premise of this video and was thinking how dope it was. Somehow was able to piece together enough to find this video. So glad I did. Great stuff man
People don't realize how much Jimbei is important for the crew.
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To Luffy most of all, Jinbei despite not being a crew member for a while gets a lot of "real one" moments fuck when he saved Luffy from akainu and his despair post ace death
Jimbei is a needed addition to the Straw Hats. As the they are now threading on the political seas of the New World, they needed someone who has the experience and wisdom to guide them to the right path. He is like Luffy's advisor. If not for him, the Big Mom Assassination alliance wouldn't even be formed.
And Oda put more time and effort into building him as a character than with any other strawhat I think, even if we don't include when he was mentioned back in east blue. How Oda built the bond between him and Luffy is quite special tbh
Franky was only a surprising pick for the very beginning of Water 7. Once we got to the actual "plot" of the arc it became more and more obvious that it was going to be Franky. Jinbei being a strawhat was so obvious that when Luffy finally asked him to join it came as a shock to absolutely nobody. I only became a weekly reader during Water 7 so I don't have much to say about Chopper or Robin, though to me Robin comes to mind as the only already established character who came as a complete shock when she asked to join the crew. I don't really count Brook because he wasn't a character before he became a crewmate. Luffy asked him to join the moment he was introduced, so there wasn't any "will he or won't he".
The big thing about Yamato joining, is that right now it is their stated goal. Beat Kaido, and then go out to sea with Luffy. Would Luffy reject a potential crewmate, especially one who is doing so much at the moment to help Luffy and his friends achieve their goals? I don't think so, so there has to be something to keep Yamato in Wano. I have absolutely no idea what that could be at the moment. I can't think of anything in Wano that would be more important to Yamato than their lifelong dream of sailing the oceans like Oden. We still have a ways to go in Wano, though.
I don't think there's ever been a situation like this in One Piece before, so Oda is definitely sailing into uncharted waters here.
One thing that could stop it is Kaido just straight up killing him. Not likely but it is possible, Kaido's already proven he wasnt above it with those cuffs.
She read Oden's journal. Luffy doesn't want spoilers.
Morj, You keep defeating your own argument, the fact that its so strange is exactly what makes it more plausible. This never happened before thus its a perfect way for Oda to make it unique to Yamato. If we keep expecting him to be unpredictable then being predictable is unpredictable, hope it makes sense.
Introducing a very important character last minute isn't unpredictable, it's stupid.
@@rindoubaka1574 usually yes but this ain't over yet, we still have a long way till the actual joining
@@rindoubaka1574 it would be. If it actually was the last minute.
@@rakhatthenut3815 Oh it was actually beyond last minute. Last minute would imply just before the battle begins. Yamato was introducing afterwards.
@@rindoubaka1574 she was introduced in 971 in the manga she's been in the manga for a long time and she established a bond with luffy i think oda will make her the oden of the crew cuz she wants to be just like him oda would make her join the crew and be the adventurer free spirit that wants to explore the world like oden
By your logic, Morj, you can't discredit the fact that there might be multiple members. Sure I'm insane, yet.... There's going to be more than one, I think.
@@SandraCuriel-mr1qn nothing certain, honestly. Just saying, by such logic of could be more than one. Could be none. I am all on board for team Yamato
I think that would actually be the biggest surprise possible. Instead of catering to Carrot fans, Yamato fans or whatever other person is being theorized to join, Oda could just bring a bunch of people to complete the crew lol
Morj - This has never happened before.
Also Morj -
Morj - Oda continually strives to find new ways to mask who else would join.
Thing is theres no Mask with Yamato. Which makes it seem like a red herring.
Yamato wore a Hanya mask
Lol brook was never a surprise to me luffy said in the very beginning that he first wanted a musician, the moment brook played the violin i knew it wasn't a GAG
Brook was expected only because Luffy had been looking for a musician since day 1
Chopper wasn't really a surprise, luffy said he wanted a doctor. The moment it was revealed chopper was a doctor, everyone should have put that together. Robin was a surprise for sure because unlike most of the crew mates, luffy never said he wanted an archeologist.
Before his backstory, I thought Dr. Kureha might join since she was the main doctor in focus at the start of the drum island arc
@@deepEleven and before that there was crocus at reverse mountain.
You'd be shocked how many first timers predicted that it would be Kureha
@@deepEleven why tho? How did it make sense for an 140 year old woman that had nothing in common with a crew that at the time was exclusively teenagers to join? I never got why people expected this.
@@xKinjax because she was a doctor
I 100% thought that Paulie would be their shipwright back then. But I did believe Brook would join.
After that people were throwing names at literally every arc. Personally the only one I kinda believed was Marguerite, but mostly cause I hoped she would join rather than having an actual basis for it(I just wanted more girls in general).
Right now I think Carrot will join, I think Momo and Tama will not and I'm on the fence with Yamato. Yamato was introduced so late in the arc that it's a quite weird case.
Meanwhile we got Fluff as a new member.
Momo will stay in Wano, he has to. Yamato I think will want to stay too, I think Carrot, as saddened this makes me, will be the next SH.
Momo will join 100% he's the most likely by a long shot. Carrot will join too, Yamato won't.
@@lukerne9260 Are you italian?
Also, Mono needs to replace his father, Wano needs him more than ever.
One might argue that Momo needs to grow up and what a better adventure than to sail with the future PK, once the journey is over he will be a better leader.
That means his sister will rule Wano till his come back, or she'll rule till her death as well. I'm not sure, I don't see Mono sailing with Luffy.
Bruh if Oda wanted carrot to join she wouldve been joined and he wouldve started to build up her character way back then.
Why do you think carrot will join? Im not saying she wont i just see nothing to suggest she will. Imo she doesnt stand out in the slightest as to be a straw hat.
Morj picks up on some of the best details and plot points that Oda wrote, he’s able to enrich the story even more than it already is and that’s why I adore his content. No bs theories, Morj is able to support his reasoning with trends, plot points, character quotes, and facts in general which is why I believe Morj to be one of the best Op CZcamsrs.
@Sakata Gintoki his theories are bs, but he is still one of the best in the game...."smoker joins strawhats"😂😂😂😂
@Jordan Eversole luffy aint becoming a giant out of nowhere he woulda been huge by now
joy boy doesnt mean you are a giant
I think he over thinks things sometimes
the raid will fail.......was stupid logic. No one in their right mind would want this. We will have to reset everything again which would be boring because we just witnessed a setup with betrayals and twists and RT5....etc and then for it all to happen again jesus. Wano would end in 2023. He is stubborn but speaks like he's an expert Sawyer7>Morj
I think you’re forgetting that the context of Yamato’s introduction was unpredictable. Everyone thought the next Strawhat would be Carrot. Nobody thought a Yonko crew member (let alone a family member) would join the Strawhats instead of her. Isn’t that a twist in itself? Think back when Acts 1 and 2 of Wano ended. It looked like all the main characters of the arc have already been introduced, and most people still thought Carrot would join after Wano. But suddenly we get the DAUGHTER OF THE WORLD’S STRONGEST CREATURE in the least expected of times (right in the middle of the big battle). Not only that, but she immediately throws Carrot right off the first place as the most likely candidate.
Everyone was getting ready for Carrot. Nobody expected Yamato. That’s the twist.
Well then it's a shitty twist. If the twist is the meta idea that suddenly most people believe a random new character is more likely now than an established character then it's a bit of a shit twist. I really doubt Oda writes that way.
Oh please, people didn't like Carrot enough to "be ready" for her. I still remember people saying Jinbe would be the last Straw Hat prior to Yamato's introduction, then everyone is like "okay, one more wouldn't hurt."
@@rindoubaka1574 just like Morj said, Oda always tries to find new ways to introduce new straw hats. Don't let your personal distaste cloud your judgement, it is a real possibility.
@@TheIDcard123 People didn't like Carrot enough? *cough* 8th place *cough*
@@rindoubaka1574 Yeah, and I'm happy for that. Truly glad that we got together to vote that most of those naysayers against Carrot are a vocal minority of the fanbase.
That said, I still am kind of upset at how people were so easy to switch from "Jinbe is the last to join" and not take into consideration that the 10 nakama were excluding Luffy from the count to "oh, so Yamato's the last one." The flip flopping of public opinion is a slight pet peeve of mine.
Im so glad I found your content, Morj.
Who would have thought Luffy's helmsman will be a Fish Man back in Arlong Park?
Never would I have expected it. But only because the fishman are so freakishly large, it would just look weird.. but here we are with a skeleton, cyborg and fishman so..
@@mrbubbles6468 Its not like there were Fish Men with much redeeming quilates in that arc
Hacchi was redeemed in the end
@@mrbubbles6468 The Fish Man thing was develop and flashes out in Fish Man Island. Arlong Park was always meant to be about Nami
@@mrbubbles6468 bro noone will believe you no one would think a Helmsman who is a fishman will join the crew lol
The way you described Brook's joining of the crew kinda makes a dent in your point for me. I've caught up with One Piece around the timeskip and got a lot of things spoiled, so that might influence this point. But when Luffy invites other zombies and creatures in Thriller bark, the panels where he does it are usually normal-sized, so they don't signify anything important. The panel where Luffy asks Brook was a DOUBLE-PAGE SPREAD PANEL. This for me signifies that Oda from the beginning wanted us to know who is joining and the rest of gags about Luffy asking everybody to join the crew were just gags, no red herrings or anything like that. So for me it's kinda clear that Oda wanted to communicate Brook joining as a fact set in stone since the beginning of the arc.
Although to be fair, I absolutely 100% agree with you on Robin and Franky.
Yeah... that’s why it was done immediately after we met Brook. Oda didn’t carry that idea unnecessarily throughout the Arc. We knew Brook was a potential crewmate. But it still didn’t feel like he had earned his place. Little did we know that he would tie it in with Laboon from several arcs ago....
The double page spread was probably actually for the surprise factor. First time I read it I was so shook by the ask. It might double in meaning but I think it was definitely to sell the shock value if it.
You make a lot of good points about rewinding our brain to look at history, but I think it can also help Yamato's case depending on how you look at it. For one, his introduction was well into Act 3, which differs from all the post-EB Strawhats who we saw at the beginning or middle of their arcs. Back then, we also believed Carrot would be the next member since she fit the mold of a "typical" Strawhat, so having a new sudden candidate was a twist in it of itself.
Additionally, having a Strawhat proclaim they'll join the crew without a real "story" or purpose isn't even unprecedented. The only member who wasn't invited on by Luffy himself is Robin. Like Yamato, she also lacked the typical Strawhat backstory and purpose when she joined. Heck, the arc barely even featured her. While I'm not saying a Yamato-focused Enies Lobby arc is planned in the future, this proves that a Strawhat doesn't have to be fully fleshed out before they join the crew.
I think Yamato being an "obvious" choice is only because the fandom immediately grew to like him and that his parallel to Oden is too on the nose (to the point of literally saying that he IS Oden). It could seem like lazy and obvious writing if we take it at face value. But if you consider just how out of left field Yamato is as a Strawhat candidate -- appearing late into the arc out of seemingly nowhere, acting as a direct parallel of Roger's crewmate, being the son of a Yonkou -- it fits right in Oda's pattern of breaking the mold with each new member.
5 minutes in and Morj I luv ur analyses videos. My mind always explodes watching them 😫😫😍🙏🏾🙏🏾
Mr Morj wants us to be skeptical about this so Yamato being the actual next Straw Hat will be unpredictable.
Mr Morj now colluding with Oda smh
Before I watch the video I'll make a guess: this is Morj pushing Smoker as nakama again, isn't it?
FINALLY someone talks about the NONSENSE that is Yamato joining the crew. Great video!!
Everyone with Yamato: I could be thinking about hits too much, or maybe, I'm not thinking about this enough.
In all seriousness, I think that's why everyone wants her to join, its been such a long time since we've had a regular straight answer, because (if you were not spoiled) we all went thru the process of a weekly reader, just in a much shorter time, with much less time to speculate. That's why Yamato feels so refreshing.
@Sakata Gintoki Most youtubers seem to think she will join though. Morj is the only one I've seen so far to argue the opposite.
@@TheBabylane2 that's a new development, a lot of youtubers weren't too sure on September last year, it has been a while since then.
@@juanjosepalami Eh, most of the ones I watch were at least leaning toward it from damn near his introduction.
I'm pretty neutral on who will join next. Though I do question the emphasis on the idea that Oda is writing his story around surprising us and subverting expectations. There are certainly surprises in One Piece, but in my mind Oda isn't really the type of author that all about hitting his audience with twists. I would argue that most of One Piece is fairly predictable and the world building is Oda's real game. Heck half of his "twists" are probably aided by constant speculation about twists!
Well some twists can be predictable because oda set seeds for them unfortunately. If he just did twists out of know where then he just wouldn’t be a good author.
Haven’t everyone just been saying how Carrot is the next to join? Isn’t Yamato coming in and joining quickly instead of Carrot already a twist for all those who is arguing about Carrot even breaking into top10 favourite polls?
The argument is getting a new member not preventing 1 from joining
Oda will probably have multiple people join including Zeus
Actually most people have been very against Carrot joining. I don't think anyone in the community has made the argument that carrot will join in years.
@@redx589 That's not necessarily true. I would say more people want her to join then not. It's just there are a lot of EXTREMELY vocal haters.
@@bobbob-zc1nx Zeus is just part of Nami now. He'll probably be regulated to Nami's Clima-tact until she attacks or maybe popping up for comic relief. If Vivi came with them Carue would've gone along too, they're a package deal. They came to respect Carue, but it's not like they were on ship sad and missing Carue. That's how I see Zeus fitting in. It's not like Luffy is going to ask him to join the crew, Zeus is Nami's pet/weapon that can talk.
@Sakata Gintoki The strawhats need a lookout. Carrot has been shown being the lookout for the musketeers and has grown a close bond with many of the crew members and showed interest in joining. And nothing is stopping her from joining.
If you use your brain on this it's not too hard to see why people think she will join. Just saying...
Great video as always Morj. But I gotta say I was reading weekly at thriller bark and I remember a lot of people myself included believed Brook would join well before the end of the arc. Maybe not from the moment luffy asked but as soon as it was revealed he had combat ability when he fought ryumma I was convinced and I dont recall a ton of dismissal of the idea.
Well it was unpredictable that the daughter of the biggest antagonist they have faced so far would suddenly show up and want to join the crew
Yamato wouldn’t be an obvious choice though, the child of a Yonko? Is that just me?
Yamato being a child of a Yonko is kind of bad for me if she joins the crew. It would imply that Kaido,as an antagonist, is really special and his presence will always be part of the crew. Zeus makes sense since zeus isn't even part of the crew and is just a powerup for nami, he doesn't have any dynamic with the rest of the characters. Jimbei is somewhat a member of a Yonkou but his presence on the crew is not "Big mom" but represents the Fishman race and his journey with luffy in impel down to post marineford.
I think the fact that Oda can make someone like you, being great at analyzing, doubt it to this extent, is exactly doing what you said throughout the video. I totally get that you already addressed what you thought was the difference, but I legitimately believe that the fact that it needs to be debated this strongly, and that you can present so many points as to why it could not happen, fits well into the very same examples that you gave us. And it WOULD be VERY different from every other one so
Morj you forgot that when yamato was first introduced as kaidos son,no one expected him to join
But don't you think that Yamato fits the unpredictability you are talking about? Let's see it like this: Carrot was set to join, she was the clearest candidate we've had in so long, but out of nowhere Oda introduces Yamato, the son of a Yonko who has been so tied to the story of One Piece with stuff like Ace's vivre card. That was a crazy twist, no one saw it coming, it was really unique. When everyone though Carrot was the one, Yamato just appeared and took the story by storm. Yamato was a really unpredictable character, just because she said from the get go that she wanted to join doesn't necessarily means that is too obvious or the same thing as Robin or Brook. I think she fits the unpredictability pattern more than any character right now, if Oda were to pull another twist to for example make Carrot join after sidelining her for the past 100 chapter would be pretty weird.
This!! I agree his reasoning is totally flawed this way. Of course, knowing what people that joined or not, you could look for a reason that makes them stand out as different from the rest. Say for example pudding joined in whole cake island, "oh this is the first time thry have a character that is actually married to another strawhat now". Or say yamato joins "she is subversive since they were the first strawhat luffy sttaight up refused
Exactly, the light has been moved from carrot to yamato. That's all.
I think you people are sacrificing the good writing part of Oda, just to say that Yamato will be joining like that is unpredictable. If Kaido suddenly died from cancer, or he just fell some stairs and died. I'm pretty sure the whole one piece community would be shocked by its unpredictability, but it would be really weird.
I think its not always the five things Morj said that would clarify a character into being a straw hat, there has to be the emotional investment given to the character and the plot relevance. Right now, Yamato is on the spotlight sure, but her being introduced is so sudden that her story arc and the moment where she joins the crew will be rushed in the remaining acts of Wano. The readers have to be convinced that she would be joining the crew. That only thing that would make her a good candidate to join the crew, is that Wano becomes longer, or there is another arc after Wano where Yamato's story is more fleshed out and there would be a good story/ reason in which she has to join the crew.
@@davidv1341 you might be just forget how Robin join first time. She join first then she gets the backstory. So just sit and see.
@@vizgeraldine1921 Robin was not introduced in Alabasta but before, when she infiltrated the ship. She was the first Villain in the story who, did not attack and try to kill the main protagonists. She then saved Luffy in their first fight with Crocodile. Being a villain and helping the protagonists is an irony in itself, and shows the readers something is up. The only thing that would be hindering the readers to speculate that she joins is that, 1) She is 2nd in command of the current strongest villain and is powerful 2) Vivi existing which was in conflict with the direct recruitment of the strawhats.
The surprise was her joining the crew, despite 1 and 2, but she didn't join out of nowhere due to "something was up" which was set up before.
I see your point Morj but what if the twist this time was just that, for the first time someone is requesting so aggressively to become a Strawhat? I would've believed what you think had Luffy actually already said yes, but he hasn't even acknowledged it. But who knows with Oda really? I'm ready for an ankle breaker!
I like the idea of a twist being Yamato the first (or only) Straw Hat that had to wear Luffy down. If i remember correctly Luffy is sometimes the one who hears no but never says it (to a serius candidate)
Yamato would still be different from everyone else
I can’t be the only one who thought Franky looked and felt like a future straw hat
I thought the same, Paulie didn’t seem straw hat material. I did consider Kaku too
Hmmm...well when he was disguised and had his family beat usopp up, I didnt think so, when he was revealed i still didn't think so.. At this moment in time, franky stood out a lot from the more human looking characters, excluding chopper
@@unknownvariable9239 sammee I was considering Paulie a little too
@@RikXtreme4 yea but somewhere between his convo with usopp about the ship legend and his sad backstory I kinda knew he will join the straw hats
@@reflxyy2228 yes, same and the bonding with Robin too. And his attacks felt like main character kind of attacks
I think the fact that Yamato joining the crew is so obvious makes it special and in a way surprising. None of the current Strawhats were super hyped about joining Luffy at the beginning (maybe except Brook). The idea that pretty much the first thing that we learn about Yamato is that she wants to join the crew is unique. Maybe Oda realized that everyone expects an unpredictable crewmate an it's precisely why he made such an obvious pick.
I believe Yamato will join and the twist is that Luffy will not want him to. Just the same as Oden with Whitebeard. It'd be really fitting and it'd be a nice way to see a Strawhat joining without Luffy inmediate authorization haha. Maybe we will even get a post-Wano period where Yamato follows the Sunny just like Oden followed Whitebeard's ship and Luffy is like "I don't want to" and Yamato doesn't give a single f*ck about it hahaha. And then probably something will happen in the next arc and then Yamato will be an official crew member. Just like how Robin didn't inmediatly became completely accepted by everyone and it was until Ennies Lobby that she really started forming part of them.
@Mr Morj at times is spot on. But on this one, I think he is overthinking things. Nobody expected Yamato to join when we just knew that Kaido has a son and that it is Yamato. NONE OF US. So in other words Oda has already used the unpredictable card bro. The only thing we need now is a more compelling backstory and dream. That's it. Yamato joining at this point would not be weird and it wouldn't go against Oda's method of being unpredictable because she (or he) is the child of a villain. Making Yamato a really unique addition.
agree!
@@SandraCuriel-mr1qn True. And the way Morj went on, if I didn't know better I'd feel he was talking about Carrot instead. If Oda ends up making Carrot join then I'd agree 100% that it was totally predictable and unlike Oda. Because people have been calling Carrot the next nakama from Zou Arc.
@@diegobromfield But if Carrot joins it would be actually a pretty big twist. Everyone is so sure Yamato is joining and that Carrot is just a secondary character, if she joins instead of Yamato it would be surprising for the majority of readers. Oda purposely sidelined Carrot for the majority of Wano for this reason.
I disagree on this one. I remember when I watched the first time Thriller Bark and I was 100% sure that Brook will join from the first second.
And: ich just rewatched the whole Anime with a friend who is a first timer and he didn´t know anything from one piece. In the first Episode with Brook he told me that Brook wil join. He had no doubt.
Also I don´t think Chopper was a big surprise but this is arguable. But I don´t think a lot of ppl doubted that Brook will join.
Note: this is actually the first time that I´m really not on one page with you Morj. I see your point but Brook and maybe Chopper are no good examples.
Sorry for the bad english, I´m not a native speaker.
I really agree. This is probably one of the rare occasions that I disagree with Morj. Yamato being introduced as a son of Kaido, then becoming a woman. A woman with a man complex. Really is unpredictable enough. I’d agree with Robin, and Franky. And Jinbei. But not with the rest of the crew.
I feel like with this one he’s trying to fit in a narrative so forcefully to make his case. Sanji, nami, Zoro and Usopp joining the crew shouldn’t be excluded, and I feel like he used the East blue narrative to simply strengthen his case. But it’s a divergent that we can’t just disqualify. If anything chopper and Brook were easy seats for nakaka to notice.
Use a website like DeepL or even google docs if you seriously think your English is "bad".
Your English is pretty damn good, but there is one mistake I want to point out, if you don't mind being corrected, because it could lead to you being misunderstood. When you say "hardly", it means "barely", or "not much". If you say "I hardly disagree", it means "I don't really disagree" / "I almost don't disagree", in other words, it means you mostly agree. "Hardly" doesn't mean "in a hard way". What you want to say in this case is "I firmly disagree" / "I heartily disagree" / "I very much disagree" / "I strongly disagree", etc...
@@MarkHogan994 Thank you! :)
Well the rule being broken this time is that not one straw hat will join but Yamato, Carrot and Momonoske will all join at the same time
I was thinking that as well... maybe Yamato will join in the most generic way and then we're about to leave Wano and another person just hops aboard or sneaks on or something and becomes a strawhat
This video is a subtle propaganda of Smoker becoming the next Straw Hat since it would be a highly unpredictable.
I was definitely surprised when Franky ended up joining the crew during my initial readthrough. I love how colorful and interesting each crew member is.
Next Strawhat: O-Tama tea pot. Nobody will expect an object to become a member of the crew
A lot is riding on the Kaido flashback, right now Yamato doesnt make much sense but until we see the whole picture its impossible to say
this is pushing the smoker joining the crew agenda of Morj
I still have vivid memories of the shock I felt at Robin, Franky, and Brook joining. Jinbei wasn’t a surprise for me but that’s because Luffy and him had already connected during Marineford.
I personally think there’s gonna be a parallel between Roger and Luffy at the end of Wano and Momo is going to join the Straw Hats the same way Oden joined the Roger pirates then Whitebeard pirates.
Yamato might not be unpredictable but she is strong, has a vision, probably will be the log keeper of the crew, fits into the dynamic of the crew, has a quirky personality (with I am Oden) and a LOT of gag potential (of her mimicing being everyone and Sanji freaking out). She fits into the crew perfectly.
After Wano, Straw hats HAVE TO BE a Yonko crew. They need strong crew mates. Just like flying member or oven,daifuku, the candy guy, etc. The crew is too weak right now and Robin and Franky have fallen off. They are going to take on Blackbeard's crew after this. Level 6 strongest prisoners. The crew needs good fighters with strong haki.
Also, fighting the WG wont be easy with just 4 strong crew members and Jimbie cant grow. Yamato has potential to grow. Not to mention, having a previous Yonko's child as a crewmate is a total flex or atleast thats how people in the one piece world will see it. The only thing that the crew will then lack, would be a apprentice. Momo is 50/50 because he has to serve as shogun and unite Wano unless Hiyori takes up that role and Momo joins the crew with Yamato being like a scabbard to him. Fulfills her dream of becoming partly Oden by protecting his child and also a strange twist from their father killing another to their child protecting another.
If someone had told me Kaido's son was going to join the crew before Wano I would have called them crazy. However, I think we'll have multiple new crew mates after Wano and Yamato is meant to throw you off the scent of other people who will join, while also calling back the nostalgia of the east blue intros.
I guess even Yamato ends in failure with morj...
i think that the twist this time is in how many people will join at once
I agree with you on so much of this list, except for the Brook introduction. It became clear that whilst funny there was a major difference between it and the other instances. Honestly Brook wasn’t all that surprising.
While I'm not entirely convinced that Yamato will join, I do agree with a lot of the other comments that "Yamato is too predictable" is sort of a self-defeating argument: if the pattern has become unpredictability, then the actually unpredictable thing is to do the predictable.
Great video regardless! The Pauli speculation is a great point of comparison and one that is usually forgotten.
Still, there are other Wano candidates that have been speculated on that I still think have a chance similar to Yamato's, depending how things turn out. The only popular one that I don't think has any chance unless things change radically (and would therefore personally surprise me the most) at this point is Carrot, because of how little focus there has been on her.
PS: I was always a Jinbe believer, but I remember a lot of people being against him joining because of those arguments. But for me the fact that he was a) more of a mentor and b) a shichibukai were always great reasons for him joining, precisely because none of the other Strawhats were like that. It creates a Jinbe-shaped niche that truly makes him a great addition. People complaining that he was "too different" always seemed like a weird (but very popular at the time) argument to me.
Completly agree. Like you said great video, but who could be unpredictable and join the crew? Honestly, only the supernovas. I don’t think Yamato is that much less predictable than Momo, Marco, Tama or any other character the fandom discuss, and no other character have focus enough to become a straw hat. The only ones that have and are kinda unpredictable is Kid, Law and Killer, and honestly, I wouldn’t like that.
My only argument against Jinbe was that I legitimately thought he was going to die since he kept being put off for so long.
But like it is said the the video, almost everybody is so sure about Yamato joining the crew. Oda knows his fans that adding a character who is 1) A pretty girl with huge chests 2) Melee Combatant 3) Great character design 4) Super OP (Challenges a Yonkou, One shots a Number). If that character says "Hey man im joining the crew", a lot of people reading would be onboard with that.
They would forget that 1) Yamato's Story is directly tied to Wano 2) Her being too strong is kind of weird in the narrative of the story about underdogs. 3) What she can add to impact the story moving forward
For me, it is jarring seeing her say "I am Oden", so what then if she says that AFTER she joins and is part of SH. It would be extremely Jarring, fighting Blackbeard or WG, and then she says "I am Oden", readers would be like "That's like last 2 arcs ago, say something new". And then you'll realize that oh why is she still on that, that was so long ago. And unlike Zeus, She isn't a powerup of one character.
@@davidv1341 Her story arc is probably getting resolved in this arc, probably in her fight against Kaido. She might discuss what she read in the journal, and at the end of the arc will accept that she isn’t Oden
@@George-km9bz Yeah, her story should resolve at Wano since Wano is the almost the Main Arc of New World. But no SH character has been introduced in the middle of the main arc, and is added in the crew afterwards. Robin was introduced beforehand so readers know her whole character before she joined. Without the First meeting before Alabasta, Robin it would be introduced in the middle of Alabasta and would be a character written out of nowhere.
Unpredictability isn't always Oda thing when it comes to strawhat candidates tho. For Brook it was fairly obvious (atleast for me) that he would join despite how many people Luffy had asked until then. Brook not only had a stand out design, but he instantly made a connection with Luffy and got a backstory that also connects in some way to the rest of the crew. Despite the feints Oda tried to throw out throughout the arc i was still convinced Brook would join, and he did. Super predictable. Chopper was also predictable, for the same reasons as Brook.
So Yamato can still join even though it feels predictable.
honestly I don't think we'll have another straw hat besides the ones already in the crew. luffy said his crew would be made up of 10 people and blackbeard's crew (which are the strawhats foils) has 10 people.
Tama is the next strawhat. No one expects an apprentice to be the next/last crewmate
If you are always unpredictable, then what's more unpredictable than being absolutely predictable? Also Yamato is the first "possible Staw Hat" to actively ask Luffy first to be on the crew the first time they meet. Everyone else had to be asked first or convinced.
Nico Robin?
Nope, she didn't ask when they first met before Alabasta on the Merry and it was only after Luffy saved her from Crocodile that she saw he was a good person and asked to join after Alabasta.
@@ajjessen5236 Well yea, but the timing really doesn't matter. Asking to join the crew isn't new and Yamato is not joining the strawhats.
So what you are saying Morj is that Yamato is joining the Strawhats because the predictable is now the most unpredictable right? Great theory! ;)
No, the opposite.
5:44 "A walking, talking reindeer"
I can't believe the reindeer walks!
With this "pattern", we could think that there's not going to be just 1 nakama, there could be 2 or more
Oda has subverted expectations for so long now that going the predictable route would be subversive by itself.
Actually if yamato joins the crew it will be surprising beacause now we think he's not gonna join
You know what would be jokes? If Yamato wants to act like Oden, then out of coincidence, Luffy tests Yamato the same way Oden was tested.
That would be cringe.
@@rindoubaka1574 ok
@@kaskelo2112 ok
10:58 "not that far back" Morj, its been more than 10 real life years since time skip
To be fair the only real unclear straw hats was franky and robin. The others were pretty simple after an incredibly short amount of time
Deffo. I was expecting vivi from the get go and was genuinely shocked to see that robin had snuck in and asked to join. Franky too, I was expecting paulie. Not that I wanted him or anything, I just thought cuz he was one of the only legit shipwrights to be betrayed and the fact that he worked with luffy and had more screen time than the others led me to think he would sail with them..