Why this American F-18 Shot down a Syrian SU-22

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    This episode is about an American military fighter jet story. A US Navy pilot shoot down of a Syrian Su-22. As the Su-22 pulled out of its dive, Tremel made his decision. “It was really crazy, swinging that Master Arm for the first time in combat with an air-to-air missile selected,” Tremel recalled. At a range of about 1.5 miles well within AIM9X missile range and in perfect position behind the Su-22, Tremel locked and launched an AIM-9X Sidewinder missile at the climbing Syrian jet.
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    The pilot gave the familiar standard radio communications when firing that might sound familiar to you. Typically the authorization launch code lets everyone on the radio net know what type of munition you fired. The AIM9X is typically designated “Fox Two” this is then followed by the Target Information: bandit at 12 o'clock, 20 miles, high. Then that’s followed by a confirmation call: “missile away”. This standard operating procedure ensures clarity in an extremely high stress environment.
    Written by: Chris Cappy & Diego Aceituno
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    The Su-22 popped flares, the standard issue countermeasure for infrared missiles but the AIM-9X is the latest version of America’s go-to heatseeking missile and had been specially engineered to see through simple decoys. But something unexpected happened: the AIM-9X, the most advanced infrared guided missile in the US arsenal, went for the flares. The Sidewinder had been spoofed and failed to shoot down an aging Cold War era bomber from perfect range and position.
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  • @Taskandpurpose
    @Taskandpurpose  Před 4 měsíci +96

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  • @em23
    @em23 Před 4 měsíci +995

    He was listening to danger zone by kenny loggins....that's how he actually did it.

    • @Jack-M1113
      @Jack-M1113 Před 4 měsíci +93

      That is mandatory for all air to air combat engagements 😂😂😂🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

    • @MelordJenkins
      @MelordJenkins Před 4 měsíci +8

      You mean Gavid Doggins?

    • @DZ4295DBW
      @DZ4295DBW Před 4 měsíci +2

      Or Dos Gringos Jeremiah Weed.

    • @whatisahandle_69
      @whatisahandle_69 Před 4 měsíci +2

      The houthis know.

    • @dianapennepacker6854
      @dianapennepacker6854 Před 4 měsíci +11

      Only pretty boy F 14 pilots play that. Admitedly sadly no longer a thing, unless you are uh Iranian I guess.
      Everyone else? Song 2, by Blur. They even wait for the chords to drop before turning on their after burners.
      No jokes aside. I don't think there is a better hype song for anything.

  • @davidwoods7408
    @davidwoods7408 Před 4 měsíci +552

    That Syrian pilot may have thought he had a backup with the SU-27 or that he could start a problem with the US and bait the Russian into helping. Imagine his shock.

    • @tagomisan2865
      @tagomisan2865 Před 4 měsíci

      He didn't
      He was conducting mission against ISIS target before the United States intervened to help their pawns per usual

    • @Taskandpurpose
      @Taskandpurpose  Před 4 měsíci +92

      that would go a long way in explaining what happend

    • @kevinmyers440
      @kevinmyers440 Před 4 měsíci +12

      @@Taskandpurposejust curious, I know the su-27 is a great jet but did you say in the beginning you think it would be able to kill the 4 f18s or were you saying it’s capable of killing a f18 describing that it’s as good or better than a single one?

    • @cuoresportivo155
      @cuoresportivo155 Před 4 měsíci +44

      @@kevinmyers440 he said it potentially carries enough missiles to attack and kill all 4 F/A-18. Success depends on how those defend, and how far away they are. Any jet can kill any other if no defensive action is taking.

    • @ShneekeyTheLost
      @ShneekeyTheLost Před 4 měsíci +25

      @@kevinmyers440 Keep in mind the 4 F18E's were in CAS configuration with no air-to-air weapons loaded. If the Su27 had gone hostile, they would have no weapons to fire back with other than their machine gun. It also had a height advantage and would have the first shot. It's about as perfect a condition as you are likely to ever get against american aircraft.
      So, theoretically, in a perfect world in which none of the F18E's countermeasures were effective, in which all of the Su27's missiles actually functioned properly, in which the F18E's were unable to return fire? Potentially they could have been taken out. What sort of escalation that might have prompted in response? Well, fortunately, we'll never know.

  • @tamzidkarim9402
    @tamzidkarim9402 Před 4 měsíci +430

    AIM 120 is an active radar homing missile, thus it's call sign is Fox 3.

    • @184Kitkat
      @184Kitkat Před 4 měsíci +18

      I was just about to post the same

    • @aaronginnis8167
      @aaronginnis8167 Před 4 měsíci +6

      i was looking for this already

    • @Th3Shrike
      @Th3Shrike Před 4 měsíci +10

      That and the plane pictures that the 120 hit was a su27

    • @Taskandpurpose
      @Taskandpurpose  Před 4 měsíci +85

      thanks for the correction!

    • @riphopfer5816
      @riphopfer5816 Před 4 měsíci

      Thanks; I, too, was just about to bring this up.

  • @jjptech
    @jjptech Před 4 měsíci +354

    16:52 when a failure becomes an advantage. I remember that the anti scud misiles had a darn hard time tracking those behemoths, at first operators thought that new gen scuds had countermeasures but when they analyzed the footage they realized that, due to poor construction, the scuds were letting behind all kind of debris,including bolts, nuts, panels paint, etc…. Noise

    • @dominuslogik484
      @dominuslogik484 Před 4 měsíci +53

      that is hilarious but also makes a lot of sense, basically its chaff on the missile lol

    • @Vexas345
      @Vexas345 Před 4 měsíci +29

      The downside to building to Soviet propaganda specs.

    • @_Epsilon_
      @_Epsilon_ Před 4 měsíci +7

      @@Vexas345 Nice excuse to a poor US AD systems.

    • @Vexas345
      @Vexas345 Před 4 měsíci +25

      @@_Epsilon_ Yeah, too bad those Su-34s that just got evaporated forgot to load up the bad flares. Lol

    • @fabiosemino2214
      @fabiosemino2214 Před 4 měsíci

      @@Vexas345 Patriot is radar based, they wouldn't be useful anyway

  • @Noisy_Cricket
    @Noisy_Cricket Před 4 měsíci +116

    Varying the design of your flares such that it makes it harder for the enemy to counter your countermeasures sounds like a good idea, actually.

    • @Taskandpurpose
      @Taskandpurpose  Před 4 měsíci +36

      I should have gone into more detail there. The flares performance variation was a mistake on their part. It was due to poor manufacturing tolerances . Sometimes it pays to have shoddy production!

    • @questcore636
      @questcore636 Před 4 měsíci +3

      not really, those are only effective against heat seekers, not radar based missiles, it's a defensive measure, not a counter offensive, in order to avade radar based missiles there are 3 options, wingman shoots the missile, fly below mountain ranges, or use a ECM burst field that disrupts radar tracking

    • @saltyfloridaman7163
      @saltyfloridaman7163 Před 4 měsíci +8

      ​@Taskandpurpose Raytheon took note and now has updated firmware to allow the pilot to visually select what he wants to target with the aim 9x on his display. Exhaust, body, etc. It calculates the temperature then locks that temperature in and guides to anything with the same thermal signature. It can lock onto things less than 80°c

    • @kekistanimememan170
      @kekistanimememan170 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@questcore636 you forgot about chaff.

    • @nylarnameless1759
      @nylarnameless1759 Před 3 měsíci

      yeah the "poor quality control" sounds plausible but I think its more likely the Russians or Iranians had designed a system that dispensed varying types of flares. You can see even their long range ballistic missiles are now carrying flare dispensers, so it would indicate its something that the Russians actively develop and more than likely are advanced at. Its not a particularly technically complex device so it would be a prime area to innovate for Russians when you look at defense economics. If you can get your enemies to waste million dollar missiles on flares that cost a few bucks each, while development of something that performs really well obviously costs more but once the design is proven counter-measures can give you advantages in more ways than one.

  • @jumpanama
    @jumpanama Před 4 měsíci +220

    I was an engineer for the AIM-9X around when this happened. Obviously I can't say why it missed or anything more than what you have in your video but as far as publicly available information you did a good job explaining it!

    • @Taskandpurpose
      @Taskandpurpose  Před 4 měsíci +53

      glad to hear it ! We looked at a lot of different sources with my writer Diego to try to figure out what happened. Tyler Rogoway at the Warzone wrote some great articles on the topic as well

    • @stevennicovich8547
      @stevennicovich8547 Před 4 měsíci +11

      I remember seeing a video with the interview of the pilot describing that shoot down and he said the AIm-9X went wild and that the su-22 never did pop flares. I'll try and look for it.

    • @stevennicovich8547
      @stevennicovich8547 Před 4 měsíci +2

      18 minutes and 30 seconds is when he talks about the Sidewinder

    • @sir.benzerlot4571
      @sir.benzerlot4571 Před 4 měsíci

      ⁠@@stevennicovich8547I think CZcams removed the link

    • @GreenBlueWalkthrough
      @GreenBlueWalkthrough Před 4 měsíci +5

      It's a fox 2 and whent for flares like water is wet... Like what is special here? Now why the Fox-3 hit is another thing entirely was it the F-18's radar as close range, did the Fritter not chafe, or did the F-18 get very luckly after getting unluckly? Also why did he use missles at all when guns would be just fine and give him another record?

  • @kennethng8346
    @kennethng8346 Před 4 měsíci +188

    So the Russian poor quality control was really a countermeasure against American sidewinders 🙂 I'm reminded of a college friend who said that brand X locks were the hardest to pick because the quality was so poor it was hard to get a good feel of the pins 🙂

    • @MrSGL21
      @MrSGL21 Před 4 měsíci +11

      i have a lock like that. the keyway is tight and all you can feel is gravel.

    • @rickh9396
      @rickh9396 Před 4 měsíci +6

      Is your friend the Lock Picking Lawyer by any chance?

    • @kennethng8346
      @kennethng8346 Před 4 měsíci +5

      @@rickh9396 I have no idea who LPL really is, but I doubt it.

    • @jamesbelcher896
      @jamesbelcher896 Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@kennethng8346lock picking lawyer he picks the unpickable then roasts them

    • @whomthebelltrolls1361
      @whomthebelltrolls1361 Před 4 měsíci +2

      When you can rake a shitty lock instantly but can’t pick it reliably the frustration is palpable. Skill issue on my part, but still 😡

  • @matthewramirez3472
    @matthewramirez3472 Před 4 měsíci +101

    Correction: Tremel and Krueger were both part of VFA-87 Golden Warriors along with me. Not not the Raging Bulls although VFA 37 was on that deployment they were still flying the old hornets and we had just gotten brand new super hornets. I know this because I was an avionics technician on the very jet that they use to shoot down the Syrian jet.

    • @Taskandpurpose
      @Taskandpurpose  Před 4 měsíci +31

      thanks for pointing that out ! much appreciated

    • @barryjohnson8733
      @barryjohnson8733 Před 4 měsíci +1

      i cant remember if my dad deployed with yall that year or left i know he was in 37 in 2015

    • @dannygzpr
      @dannygzpr Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@Taskandpurpose @matthewramirez3472 is correct, I remember doing the release and control check the day prior on that jet.

    • @dannygzpr
      @dannygzpr Před 4 měsíci +2

      YO RAM!!!

    • @matthewramirez3472
      @matthewramirez3472 Před 4 měsíci

      @@dannygzpr yo who dat!?

  • @deicide3821
    @deicide3821 Před 4 měsíci +101

    My close friend was the Kc-10 pilot who refueled them. He was out of McGuire afb during that time. I learned only about him being the tanker after it was made public and I had asked him since I knew was on deployment at the time. I still have some really awesome photos he took me for while he was there.

    • @wallacegrommet9343
      @wallacegrommet9343 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Jackson Township? Growing up in Manasquan, seeing C-141 and C-5 overhead was pretty cool.

    • @deicide3821
      @deicide3821 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@wallacegrommet9343 personally do not know, it was my friend who was stationed there ( I only visited the AFB once when he had his 2nd kid). I'm in Pennsylvania.

    • @VisibilityFoggy
      @VisibilityFoggy Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@wallacegrommet9343 McGuire (JBMDL) doesn't have any C-5s of its own, but you'll see some making a stop from Dover to load whatever interesting cargo it is they're picking up there. They do operate C-17s, KC-10s (until they retired them this year), KC-135s and the new KC-46s. The last C-141s were retired back in the early 2000s. Of course there are some C-130s there too, and occasionally you'll have some ANG aircraft (F-16s from the Jersey Devils based at Atlantic City Intl) and USCG helos fuel up there or tank overhead.
      Not sure which part of the joint base extends into Jackson, but the McGuire portion is in the next county over. It's a pretty cool place, and that base in particular tends to have a very positive relationship with the communities around it. It's a very patriotic area that is filled with vets, old and young, and people are very proud of the base. The C-17s and tankers often shoot their approach over the local Jersey Shore beaches, which can make for some awesome photos heading into the sunset and such.

  • @MrBobbyBrown2006
    @MrBobbyBrown2006 Před 4 měsíci +70

    I would love to see more combat break down videos like this! Note: AMRAAM is Fox 3.

    • @Taskandpurpose
      @Taskandpurpose  Před 4 měsíci +19

      thanks for the correction I'm a ground pounder dummy when it comes to air force specifics !

    • @osean_ace4618
      @osean_ace4618 Před 4 měsíci +8

      ⁠@@TaskandpurposeFox 3 refers to active radar homing missile (AMRAAM, Meteor etc), Fox 1 is for semi-active radar homing A2A missiles like the AIM-7 Sparrows

  • @carlerickson74
    @carlerickson74 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Wow! That guy sure has some bragging rights around the squadron now! That would be pretty cool to paint an Su-22 silhouette on the side of your F-18!

  • @RichyRichToo
    @RichyRichToo Před 4 měsíci +7

    Brother … As a prior service airman, this video was outstanding … love your thorough descriptions of the pilots, aircrafts, weapons used, subsequent target acquisitions & execution …
    * Your videos are simply outstanding! Thanx!

  • @pbinnj3250
    @pbinnj3250 Před 4 měsíci +67

    Wow. You are the David Attenborough of the military. I know of no one who does what you do, (though admittedly I don’t get out much.) This is more than a recounting of an event. You include enough background for everyone to understand. How do we get your work expanded beyond CZcams? (Not that there’s anything wrong with CZcams.)

    • @Taskandpurpose
      @Taskandpurpose  Před 4 měsíci +27

      thanks man I owe a great ton to the research done by my team and the military community in general. I've worked for some main stream places before and I found the internet gives a lot more freedom with less restrictions on time / advertisers / how the story is told etc.

    • @allanb52
      @allanb52 Před 4 měsíci

      David Attenborough is a liar too, so yes you are right.

  • @BasedF-15Pilot
    @BasedF-15Pilot Před 4 měsíci +23

    The fact that both the lead and the #2 were both Lt. CMDR ranks proves that they knew something was up, and nothing about the sortie was routine. Edit: I flew with "Claw" Hwang in my first unit, great dude. 493rd was stacked with a lot of the best pilots and we won the Hughes trophy twice in 3 years.

  • @timrobertson8436
    @timrobertson8436 Před 4 měsíci +9

    I congratulate you on your dramatic improvement in your ability to pronounce non-English words. It is a skill well worth learning and practicing, especially with so many sources available to give you the correct pronunciation online that are readily available. It has greatly improved the quality of your videos this year.

    • @TurboHappyCar
      @TurboHappyCar Před 4 měsíci

      Cappy has improved a lot in the last year. Good work bro! 👍

  • @HistoryWithJerm
    @HistoryWithJerm Před 4 měsíci +5

    Thanks for all the videos this year cappy

  • @davidpalmer4184
    @davidpalmer4184 Před 4 měsíci +19

    Thanks Cappy, As an ex-Grunt it is "good" to see the flyboys have the same issue with the ROE as we did. It sucked the big one that we couldn't fire unless the enemy fired FIRST. Oh, Merry Christmas, by the way. Ho, ho, ho etc.

    • @Dude408f
      @Dude408f Před 4 měsíci

      Maybe we could fire first IF a war was declared or we WEREN’T in foreign territory... pesky details

  • @declanclaus6681
    @declanclaus6681 Před 4 měsíci +36

    Thanks Chris for your analysis. Been subscribed since April 2022. Can't wait to see what you do for 2024. Love your channel, attitude, and transparency. Keep it up

    • @Taskandpurpose
      @Taskandpurpose  Před 4 měsíci +7

      thanks I appreciate the support man ! looking forward to 2024

  • @theofficialken1755
    @theofficialken1755 Před 4 měsíci +14

    The F/A-18 E (single seat, F for 2) is fighter attack. Normally has a FLIR pod for targeting ground, but also is more than capable with AIM-9X and combined fleet radars. Its not new, but its extremely capable. Worked on Supers for 1/2 my Navy time.

    • @VisibilityFoggy
      @VisibilityFoggy Před 4 měsíci +1

      I think they've replaced pretty much all of the old FLIR pods with the Rafael LITENING pod. I'm guessing the sensor tech in one of those is why we don't have video from the shooter.

  • @ulrichmachtle4864
    @ulrichmachtle4864 Před 4 měsíci +5

    thx 4 your work, always very interesting! good job, mate.

  • @GT-mq1dx
    @GT-mq1dx Před 4 měsíci +6

    Clear and concise Cappy as usual, one of the benefits this last year gave me was finding your channel.
    From another U.S. Vet, Bravo Zulu, have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year 🎈🎊🎆

  • @chartreux1532
    @chartreux1532 Před 4 měsíci +12

    Cheers and Merry Christmas from a German Veteran (231. Gebirgsjägerbattalion of the 23rd Gebirgsjägerbrigade) out of Bad Reichenhall
    I just wanted to say i really appreciate that you still cover Ukraine and also other Topics such as in this Video and will keep on doing so as you mentioned in your recent Ukraine Video.
    Sadly since there is once again another War/Skirmish with Israel and one of it's Neighbours most Western Media (of any Type) has suddenly almostly completely stopped covering it but instead focusing by Majority on the Israel-Gaza Conflict. Which is strange to me, but i guess it has to do with "What brings more Engagement/Viewers".
    So, it is very much appreciated and i'm looking forward to every Video you upload
    Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps

  • @is.this.a-real-thing
    @is.this.a-real-thing Před 4 měsíci +4

    Thank you. And you know what, I appreciate these videos and the information they bring.

  • @wyattdean5192
    @wyattdean5192 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Great video Chris as always!

  • @joeboggio4002
    @joeboggio4002 Před 4 měsíci +12

    USS George H. W. Bush (CVN 77) is the name of the ship. It was my ship actually, and I was onboard during that deployment.

  • @jessesewell7922
    @jessesewell7922 Před 4 měsíci +2

    The flight simulator is so awesome. By far the best ‘enter to win’ prize I’ve ever seen. Love this channel

  • @Mike5Brown
    @Mike5Brown Před 4 měsíci +89

    The inconsistency of the Soviet flares is really funny, and hopefully something that was taken into consideration and construction of NATO flares.
    I also remember seeing a story about how the US ended up with a Soviet fighter of some sort but had to return it and got caught taking it apart because The US didn't have screws that weren't galvanized

    • @battleax4609
      @battleax4609 Před 4 měsíci +4

      Lol galvanized screws who uses galvanized go stainless (jk)

    • @Taskandpurpose
      @Taskandpurpose  Před 4 měsíci +24

      its one of those things that sounds simple and you think would be obvious to test for in hindsight but really tough to think of before hand

    • @garykelley9027
      @garykelley9027 Před 4 měsíci +5

      Is that different from the MIG-25 where the pilot defected? Cause that I'm fairly sure the U.S. sent it back in pieces deliberately out of spite.

    • @Nesstor01
      @Nesstor01 Před 4 měsíci +12

      The accident you are talking about was the foxbat MiG-25 event in 1976 where a Russian pilot defected USSR brand new jet to a US base in Japan. The Russians praised it as its answer to the US SR-71 and said it could intercept the Blackbird. When the US military got their hands on it, the US found out it was complete trash since it couldn't maintain its high speed for long periods because the engine would melt itself due to poor design and inferior metallurgy. The US learned that the USSR was still using tech the US mastered 20 years previous. The US was so disappointed that they learned nothing from the Foxbat that they sent it back in wooden crates to spite the USSR.
      Breaching Mach 3 is no small feat, but the SR-71 was able to maintain Mach 3 for over an hour and no more than 90 minutes, whereas the Foxbat would melt its engine after a few minutes if it tried to maintain Mach 3.

    • @coffee_drinker2912
      @coffee_drinker2912 Před 4 měsíci

      @@Nesstor01 That was all well and good until the USSR created the FrigBat. This one ran super cool. It just stayed on the runway.

  • @matthewevans8662
    @matthewevans8662 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Merry Christmas and a happy New year to the whole spare parts army !! Keep up the good work Chris and may the channel go from strength to strength again in 2024. Thankyou keep it up !!

  • @farhadzaman4707
    @farhadzaman4707 Před 4 měsíci +91

    Minor Correction: The Su-27s that Russia deployed in Syria were upgraded Su-27SM3 variants, which had sophisticated avionics and fully digital glass cockpits.

    • @LeonAust
      @LeonAust Před 4 měsíci +21

      Still considering the Super hornets superior ASEA radar, networking, AWACs support, pilot training and superior weapons the Su-27M3 would have a very hard time of it.

    • @bluemarlin8138
      @bluemarlin8138 Před 4 měsíci +25

      Sophisticated by Ruzzian standards. Still inferior to 20-30 year old US equipment. An Su-27, upgraded or not, it at a big disadvantage against a Super Hornet, much less 4 Super Hornets.

    • @LordOceanus
      @LordOceanus Před 4 měsíci +11

      Su-27M3 is still running the the Slot Back radar albeit one made with late 90s components instead of mid 80s components (N-001V Mech). Its still a mechanically steered array about 30 years behind the times and incompatible with the A-12 Adder (R-77) so they were at best running with AA-10 Alamos still (R-27). Combine that with an ancient RWR design and the odds of them even detecting the AN/APG-79 radar the Super Hornets have are lower than Putin's odds at winning a Nobel Peace Prize. WVR the flanker is a threat but BVR its going to get glassed by a super hornet.

    • @farhadzaman4707
      @farhadzaman4707 Před 4 měsíci +12

      Still upgraded flankers though. As an aviation enthusiast, I have a clear idea of Russian Tech being generations behind. Even their AESA in Su-57 is early AESA technology, comparable to what US did in 2000 with Mitsubishi F-2s Radar. But their PESA radars are quite formidable. A US navy pilot who served with the RMAF and frequently fought Su-30mkm, He stated that modern flankers are quite formidable fighters. And their BVR capability is not something you should take lightly, they can rich a very high altitude and loft missiles. So, the main deciding factor would be Tactics vs Tactics and that is exactly where no one can even come close to the US. Furthermore, air-to-air combats are very complex, you can never ever say whoever gonna win, thousands of variables will play their role. Your tactic is to play the fight in the most unfair way; the game of pushing your enemy to their most uncomfortable zone. You can't never ever say which fighter will come victorious in 1v1 or 2v2 fight. Gonky himself admitted he has lost to Su-30MKM multiple times. (Checkout The Ready Room channel on yt.). @@LordOceanus

    • @LordOceanus
      @LordOceanus Před 4 měsíci +7

      @@farhadzaman4707 Again we are not discussing a modern jet we are discussing a SU-27 that received a bare bones upgrade package. The slot back is not PESA, its not even TWS capable.

  • @zacharylevine4701
    @zacharylevine4701 Před 4 měsíci +9

    amazing video as usual brother, 11:47 pretty sure amraams are fox 3s tho

  • @mikereinhardt4807
    @mikereinhardt4807 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Great video as always, Merry Christmas and keep the great videos coming!...

  • @nathanbailey9153
    @nathanbailey9153 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Ok, that Flight Simulator prize is officially crazy. I might enter to win it just because. I don't even have room for it in my very small house, but I guess I could install it at my parents place. I know my dad would love it.

  • @penncap296
    @penncap296 Před 4 měsíci +4

    "Maybe they forgot the US Resolve was Inherent." Haha, Cappy with the very niche Dad joke.

  • @njjeff201
    @njjeff201 Před 4 měsíci

    I find your channel fascinating & informative. Looking forward to your broadcasts

  • @webpressmedical
    @webpressmedical Před 4 měsíci

    Dude I love this format. Keep going

  • @bullpupgaming708
    @bullpupgaming708 Před 4 měsíci +3

    As an A-10 crew chief, I Need that rig lol

  • @JoseSantana-yp1wp
    @JoseSantana-yp1wp Před 4 měsíci +12

    I love these new more journalist type videos, but I also miss some of your firearms and artillery videos

    • @Taskandpurpose
      @Taskandpurpose  Před 4 měsíci +6

      I miss making the firearms videos , I'm planning to make a schedule where I do at least 1 firearms video a month going forward so it's a better more predictable mix for 2024

  • @davidsusak6120
    @davidsusak6120 Před měsícem

    I thoroughly enjoy your long format videos where you dig deep

  • @ronboFPV
    @ronboFPV Před 4 měsíci +1

    I would use my best tech first. Merry Christmas Task and Purpose. Thanks for the excellent detail in your videos. Cheers

  • @_Addi_
    @_Addi_ Před 4 měsíci +4

    11:46 AIM-120 is fox 3, not fox 1. It has an internal radar, fox 1 does not.

  • @Doc161st
    @Doc161st Před 4 měsíci +4

    11:40 AIM 120 is "Fox 3"

  • @texoutlaw1732
    @texoutlaw1732 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thank you and Merry Christmas

  • @stufbaby
    @stufbaby Před 4 měsíci +1

    Great video. Merry Christmas!

  • @liquidgoose1518
    @liquidgoose1518 Před 4 měsíci +29

    Any heat-seeking missile can be distracted by flares. Newer missiles are less likely to be distracted but there is always a chance.

    • @kylejohns2288
      @kylejohns2288 Před 4 měsíci +4

      Some modern missiles use a mixture or heat and radar along with point laser to find targets you can fool one but the three systems basically ensure a hit or close to it. The problem is of course price as multiple tracking systems and subsequent computers are expensive

    • @bluemarlin8138
      @bluemarlin8138 Před 4 měsíci +1

      IR missiles are also easier to spoof when fired from a higher altitude against another aircraft near the ground, especially in a hot, rocky environment like Syria. It’s harder for the seeker-even an advanced thermal imaging seeker-to pick out an aircraft against the warm ground, and it also enhances flares’ ability to distract the missile. I suspect this wouldn’t have occurred if they were at 5-10,000 feet or more in altitude.

    • @bluemarlin8138
      @bluemarlin8138 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@kylejohns2288I’m not sure any air-to-air missiles in production at this time have dual-mode seekers, but some are planned. The Peregrine missile is supposed to have them whenever it comes out, and perhaps the Cuda as well.

    • @ligmasack9038
      @ligmasack9038 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@bluemarlin8138 the AIM9-X is dual mode.

    • @Vexas345
      @Vexas345 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@bluemarlin8138 It's just an extra sensor in the seeker, it doesn't need a whole new production line.

  • @jameshodgson3656
    @jameshodgson3656 Před 4 měsíci +4

    The most interesting part of this was seeing the 9X miss a non manoeuvring jet from the 70s

  • @tomperkins5657
    @tomperkins5657 Před 18 dny +1

    Excellent and NO robo-voice!

  • @soundgarden7823
    @soundgarden7823 Před 4 měsíci +2

    New subscriber from 🇨🇦

  • @IceCavalier
    @IceCavalier Před 4 měsíci +3

    The Baldur's Gate dice roll LMFAO 🤣

  • @user-xp5id1kh4r
    @user-xp5id1kh4r Před 4 měsíci +4

    That "Inherent Resolve" joke was a Sleep Hitter g

  • @richardmeo2503
    @richardmeo2503 Před 4 měsíci +1

    As always good show and info

  • @markhebden1052
    @markhebden1052 Před 4 měsíci

    The flare details were great, thanks Chris.

  • @SnkobArts
    @SnkobArts Před 4 měsíci +9

    It probably helps being a 4th gen fighter jet vs a 2nd or 3rd gen.

    • @S4Tony3.0T
      @S4Tony3.0T Před 4 měsíci +1

      Hey man there’s no skill based matchmaking in real life 🤣

  • @laesperanza5408
    @laesperanza5408 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Interesting point about the mis-matched weapon and target. Funny they didn't do more after those tests. Chris, the music distracts. Recommend using it just for transitions, but not in the background for long technical stretches. Us old farts can't follow so easily!

    • @Taskandpurpose
      @Taskandpurpose  Před 4 měsíci

      Thanks for the feedback ! I’m trying to find some less distracting music

  • @madfoxlabs3436
    @madfoxlabs3436 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Eow, Interesting to know what happened that day. Thanks for the videos. Have a Merry Christmas 🦊

  • @Gman909008
    @Gman909008 Před 4 měsíci

    Great work as always’ happy holidays!

  • @gssbcvegancat2345
    @gssbcvegancat2345 Před 4 měsíci +8

    Thank you for making these videos. This is one of the very few channels I care about seeing on youtube. Maybe it's my autism maybe it's just me but your videos are informative entertaining and well thought out.

    • @Taskandpurpose
      @Taskandpurpose  Před 4 měsíci +3

      we've got the same kind of 'tism it sounds like : )

  • @apersondoingthings5689
    @apersondoingthings5689 Před 4 měsíci +5

    I also read something I don’t remember where but that the pilot also said the Aim 9X took a much longer time to get off the rail than a normal one, showing it malfunctioned

  • @zericle1
    @zericle1 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Love your videos and your team Cappy!

  • @rccola5167
    @rccola5167 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Good info. Thanks for not using some computer generated voice over.

  • @seinfeld11123
    @seinfeld11123 Před 4 měsíci +4

    just a small correction @ 11:45 you said tremell fired his AMRAMM (aim 120) you called it FOX 1. an Aim 120 is designated FOX 3 . a FOX 1 missile is the Sparrow missile

    • @mrrecon9007
      @mrrecon9007 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I was about to point that out. Thanks.

  • @fredbrewer796
    @fredbrewer796 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Just out of curiosity, are the simulated seats as uncomfortable as the actual seats? I might be in the minority buy I took a backseat ride in an A7 while I was in the Navy and after a few hours I felt like I'd been whitewater rafting without the raft. Something I had experience with as a guide and had been thrown out several times in class 4 rapids.

    • @njjeff201
      @njjeff201 Před 4 měsíci

      Isn’t class 4 like tubing downstream? The Colorado river is class 10.

  • @traceystokes5253
    @traceystokes5253 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I really enjoyed all the posts that I have seen in 2023. Thank for them out. I am interested in content about the Middle East but can never find it unless or until I find your channel. Thank for your presence on this platform: I truly appreciate your information provided by your channel .

  • @seandawson5899
    @seandawson5899 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Cappy has the best give aways. It blows my mind

  • @tonyc7352
    @tonyc7352 Před 4 měsíci +6

    It's cool how you sort-of stealthily combine hard-to-resist geek content with real history and political knowledge. When I watch your videos I learn more than I thought I would. Thank you.

  • @jeremyb465
    @jeremyb465 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Wouldn't it behoove us to purposely manufacture flares so there was variation in how they burned for the purpose of making them more difficult for enemy missiles to ignore?

  • @tommyeddie5599
    @tommyeddie5599 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Recently subscribed to your channel. You are a wealth of military knowledge. Were you an A-10 pilot during your active duty. Tom, a Vietnam Navy corpsman veteran.

  • @JessWLStuart
    @JessWLStuart Před 4 měsíci +1

    Great presentation!

  • @killnme6212
    @killnme6212 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Wow! What an awesome give away! This video is cool also! Very interesting! Thanks for thinking of your subscribers! Hope you have continued success!

  • @jesse-johnwitkowski9726
    @jesse-johnwitkowski9726 Před 4 měsíci +6

    The AIM9-X has a tandem lock, it incorporates a semi-active radar tracker as well. It was supposed to be the be most lethal air to air missile to date, this was slightly embarrassing.

    • @questcore636
      @questcore636 Před 4 měsíci

      AIM-9x is a apache variant, not normally used on fighters, fighters normally uses the AIM-23M for high velocity long range attacks

    • @shamandgg
      @shamandgg Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@questcore636😂 shitebot

    • @theabsolutemadlad2240
      @theabsolutemadlad2240 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@questcore636What? The AIM-9X along with older variants like the 9M are used on fighters frequently.

  • @perfrchandersen4853
    @perfrchandersen4853 Před měsícem +1

    A f-18 shooting down a SU-22 is like a a F-16 shooting down spitfire.

  • @GSF1974
    @GSF1974 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Title should of been "Latest Sidewinder fails to shoot down 1970s jet". One of the main air-to-air missiles of the western world utterly failing to get an easy kill vs an obsolete enemy fighter-bomber is the main story here, and a huge worry.

    • @dreadunicorn1483
      @dreadunicorn1483 Před 4 měsíci

      I wouldn't read this as a worry, but instead an opportunity: this was more than half a decade ago. Having this happen, in a single engagement, means that the problem can be fixed before it becomes an institutional problem when fighting against near-parity opposition.

  • @GMod_97
    @GMod_97 Před 4 měsíci +10

    Its always weird because I just heard a rumour that the Russian were saying the American aircraft carriers were obcelete

    • @L08080K
      @L08080K Před 4 měsíci +8

      Yeah they’re super outclassed by the Russian ones which happen to be invisible to everyone except the most patriotic of Russian citizens 😂

    • @dominuslogik484
      @dominuslogik484 Před 4 měsíci +6

      I do wonder what exactly the US aircraft carriers could be obsolete compared to lol. nobody has anything superior because almost nobody has the budget to afford an equivalent class anyway. though I have seen people try to claim the aircraft carrier concept was obsolete which is just cope because in order for a big boat with jets on it to be obsolete the whole concept of aircraft in warfare would need to be obsolete.

    • @ATBatmanMALS31
      @ATBatmanMALS31 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I mean, they aren't wrong. If we operated carriers like the Russian's do, they would indeed be obsolete.

  • @btbarr16
    @btbarr16 Před 4 měsíci +8

    The Syrian Civil War was such a quagmire of forces working together against ISIS while opposing each other as far as the government and rebels went.

  • @unshapingtheearth7916
    @unshapingtheearth7916 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Damn those piloting pods! Almost screwed up the top gun maverick mission too!

  • @Eluderatnight
    @Eluderatnight Před 4 měsíci +2

    Missiles do go stupid sometimes, but having a spread of temperature IR decoys is just smart.

  • @theshadyprotector8412
    @theshadyprotector8412 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Merry Christmas.
    Stay safe, everyone.

  • @randlecarr3257
    @randlecarr3257 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Why the F were we involved in any of this???

    • @dreadunicorn1483
      @dreadunicorn1483 Před 4 měsíci

      It upsets Assadists and other fascists, protecting civilians, protecting trade routes. Obviously if you're in the West you want countries who are friendly to you to control territory, so we can get their resources cheaply so we can have everything from better medical equipment, cheaper cars, and less refugees flooding our borders. It's not rocket surgery. But most of all, upsetting people who wish Hitler won WW2 who mostly support Assad? Always funny.

  • @R0bobb1e
    @R0bobb1e Před 4 měsíci +1

    See you on New Years! My "Father in law" is called Cappy, so yeah! Merry Christmas and happy new year, that is why I fist started following you. Looking forward to the next Chris Cappy Instalment!

  • @allenliu8820
    @allenliu8820 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I guess having in consistent flares is a good thing for countermeasures, so I hope we can adopt that which should make our flares more effective.

  • @mannybedoya
    @mannybedoya Před 4 měsíci +4

    VFA 87. Off of the Bush. I was on that deployment

  • @pyro1047
    @pyro1047 Před 4 měsíci +19

    I love the fact that the most official and plausible explanation we'll have of why the 9X got flared is "Their old Soviet kit is so shit and inconsistent, with such poor standards and quality control that even our supercomputer missile had no idea what the F'K was going on and got lost".😂

  • @mcburcke
    @mcburcke Před 4 měsíci +1

    Man, you're lookin' mighty official as a green-bagger in the sim there! You should've gone Air Force; you've definitely got the style chops to fit right in...

  • @Brunzy1970
    @Brunzy1970 Před 4 měsíci +1

    New subscriber so dont let me down. Hope you had a great Christmas!

  • @JohnDoe-tx8lq
    @JohnDoe-tx8lq Před 4 měsíci +6

    made me chuckle when the pilot adjusted the mirror 0:48 - just like me, everytime the wife uses the car! 😒

  • @spartacusdiablo900
    @spartacusdiablo900 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Stock footage of the F-14 while talking about the legacy Hornet?!?
    Come on man.

  • @mikebunner3498
    @mikebunner3498 Před 15 dny +1

    Per your usual young man a great video!!!!!! All I can chant is U.S.A.!!!!!!! I know this may be used too often these days but U.S.A.!!!!!!! Our military is tops!!!! They can do things that are unreal.... Thanks bud!!

  • @datguy4093
    @datguy4093 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Cappy, love your work, but a correction. The last USAF air to air kill was Lt Col Michael Geczy in 1999, according to wikipedia:
    "May 4, 1999 - A General Dynamics F-16C Fighting Falcon (Serial Number : 91-0353) shot down a Mikoyan MiG-29 aircraft using an AIM-120 AMRAAM missile. The F-16 was piloted by Lieutenant Colonel Michael Geczy.[49]"

  • @SDsc0rch
    @SDsc0rch Před 4 měsíci +7

    AMRAAM is "fox3"

  • @importantname
    @importantname Před 4 měsíci +4

    Im more interested in why the Syrian war is permitted to continue by the UN. It has killed hundreds of thousands, and been going on for many years. Yet the UN is solely concentrated on a recently started war that has only killed a few thousand. That is what I would like investigated fully.

    • @SuperMaxdragon
      @SuperMaxdragon Před 4 měsíci +1

      You expect anything useful from the U.N.? 😂😂😂

    • @uche007us
      @uche007us Před 4 měsíci +1

      The UN and US are behind the war. They have supported the rebel and ISIS coalition against the people of syria

    • @mcarrowtime7095
      @mcarrowtime7095 Před 4 měsíci

      Isn’t Syria a civil war/domestic conflict? In that case, the only things the UN could do is prevent outside forces from intervening (Russia and the US are on the security council) and protecting civilians from getting caught in the crossfire

  • @J.A.Smith2397
    @J.A.Smith2397 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Tks again for me news! Stay on point 👉

  • @colbytremblay1710
    @colbytremblay1710 Před 4 měsíci

    2:07 this next barracks room inspection is about to go craaaazyyyyyy

  • @jmanj3917
    @jmanj3917 Před 4 měsíci +4

    12:12 Wow, really? That long? 😮
    ...But I guess I shouldn't be Too surprised that I was wrongly expecting the aerial combat to last only about twenty or thirty seconds, since everything I know about planes comes from the original Top Gun movie and The Big Book of Airplanes that I had as a kid...lol
    ...and, of course my AFVID training...🙄

  • @ponz-
    @ponz- Před 4 měsíci +4

    Does Russia normally fly single ship with no wingman? That su 27 was out there on his own like that? Doesn’t surprise me I guess😂

    • @questcore636
      @questcore636 Před 4 měsíci

      they have very limited combat capability, 35 year old sanctions has crippled russia's air to ait capability no matter where they're stationed at

  • @KoNoRUa
    @KoNoRUa Před 4 měsíci +2

    I just wonder why would you show Polish SU-17 (with Polish AF insignia) as Syrian SU22 (is it that hard to find one) and Ukrainian SU-27, with its distinct Ukrainian camo and UA insignia, instead of a russian one

  • @eldonrollins162
    @eldonrollins162 Před 4 měsíci

    Great piece, very interesting.

  • @HereticDuo
    @HereticDuo Před 4 měsíci +2

    Turns out the russian jet wasn't popping flares, it was just so $h't that it was falling apart mid flight due to being constructed by a bunch of orks

  • @darhammora7867
    @darhammora7867 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Didn't they say later the AIM-9X didn't ignite rather than spoofed?

    • @Taskandpurpose
      @Taskandpurpose  Před 4 měsíci +1

      we'll never know the full story but I wish I had put that perspective in if thats the case!

  • @h4wk5t4r
    @h4wk5t4r Před 4 měsíci

    3:08 I like these F-18Cs taking off from the carrier, strange how similar they look to F-14 Tomcats though

  • @johnwurfel2862
    @johnwurfel2862 Před 4 měsíci +1

    11:45 You meant to say "Fox Three."
    Fox-1 is for old Semi-Active AA missiles that require firing aircraft to keep target locked until impact.