America's NEW F-15-EX Dominates Disputed Air Space
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The American F-15 EX is a new super interceptor fighter jet that is designed to patrol some of the world's most disputed air space in the south China Sea and Eastern Europe. In fact NATO scrambled jets 570 times more than once per day in 2022 to respond to Russian aircraft. And Japan is forced to scramble F-15’s every time China violates their airspace. The number of Chinese airspace incursions has jumped up from 96 in 2010 to 675 in 2019.
But critics have been quick to point out the F-15 is ancient. It was originally manufactured in 1976 and is headed into retirement. Many are questioning the logic of investing millions of dollars into upgrading the F-15 into the EX. Because it seems like a step backwards in this modern fancy era of stealth technology. But the truth is it’s not that simple. The new F-15 will have some weapons and flight capabilities that modern stealth aircraft lack. Fire an aim 9 sidewider at the like button and lets get started.
Written by: Chris Cappy & Justin Taylor
Edited by: Michael Michaelides
In producing the F-15EX we admittedly took the long scenic route. So the way it happened was during the early 2000s the F22 was supposed to replace the aging F15 but it’s program’s budget was slashed by 75%. This led to only 195 aircraft purchased which is a third of what the US air force originally wanted. In 2009 The F-22 production lines were completely shut down and are impossible to restart. This forced the air force to keep the old F15 past its expiration date in order to maintain a fleet size large enough to respond to air space violations in Europe and the pacific at the same time.
So in order to solve for the lack of F-22s the United States Air Force decided to order 104 of the new upgraded F-15EX multirole fighter, marking the first order of F-15s in over 20 years.
Earlier this year, the United States Air Force announced that after two years of extensive testing and study, their latest upgrades to the F-15 platform dubbed the EX had actually ‘smashed a new record’ in terms of capabilities and expectations. What this means is that it is able to perform as both a fighter and bomber except at a much lower cost than the F35. Now according to Boeing the new plans will extend the service life of the aircraft well into the 2030s, which would make it the longest serving fighter aircraft in American history.
Unsurprisingly like all decisions involving the military industrial complex it was met with a bunch of support and criticism from political leaders and internet forums trolls. But To be fair you can understand where they are coming from. The sticker price on a new F-15EX will run you about $80 million, while the most recent batches of F-35As cost only slightly less at $78 million, leading many to rightfully question why the government has decided to spend more money on an old aircraft originally built in 1976 with zero stealth capabilities. I think a lot of it comes down to its interceptor and escort abilities.
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Got a 2023 Gen 4K tv. I can see Chris getting older or younger. Can’t tell. The EX come with a k-cup coffee maker?
@@MisterNiSo what about those aliens and those aircraft we have built or cloned? You know Steven Greer I'm assuming and you probably have had a chance to at least get a summary of the major news conference yesterday with complete disclosure of our BLACK BOX government that needs to follow the Constitution. It looks like we have several species of aliens and about 112 crafts collected or downed. There's a map that shows all the secret sites too. Thoughts?
Please stop with the background sound effects and music for those of us with ADHD.
Cappy, didja know? The price of F-22 was down to $140-million (and falling) when we (understandably) cut the program. As you know, people like you dying in Iraq & Afghanistan & needed MRAPs ASAP. Of course, the F-15 II are cost .... more ... have vertical stabs & have targeting pods on perpendicular-pilons.
Two ... _egregious_ mistakes and one small one: Jets aren't "even able to go fast at high altitude" ... they're can ONLY hit their max speed above certain altitudes ... and burn prodigious amounts of fuel as altitude decreases (denser air). Second ... the F-15 is far from the fastest jet in the world. Both the MiG-25 and MiG-31 are FAR faster. The F-15 II is a far more advanced and successful fighter ... with win-loss records that are (allegedly) impeccable.
While the new RADAR is very very good ... the F-35 just got the AN/APG-85
(you know, 85 is 82 +3, so _you know_ it's better)
...and 4th ... SEAD is only performed by F-16s in an air group dedicated to the task ... it's not something given to generalist pilots on some rotation. it's just too, too difficult ... and the utility of the F-16 in this role is first that it's lighter and more agile than the F-15 ... and (sad to say) ... cheaper. And this is a very high risk. Just look up "Wild Weasel" for the genesis of this role. "YGBSM" ...
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On Ward Carrol's channel several months ago, he had on a former F-15E pilot who had a little bit of stick time on the EX. This guy relayed a conversation he had with some F-22 pilots... apparently during Red Flag war games, one of their favorite scenarios is to be paired up with teammates in non-stealth aircraft with powerful radars. They explained it like this... if trying to find an F-22 was like trying to hear an individual instrument in a symphony, then trying to do it when the F-22's buddies had their radars on full blast was like trying to hear that instrument while standing next to a jackhammer. Apparently it became nearly impossible to pick up the F-22's through all the radar noise.
The reason he explained this was because that new radar the F-15EX will have is going to be more powerful and with longer range then any other fighter in the world (and those radars were going to be retrofit into the E models as well). The scenario then becomes one where an F-15EX could stand off out of the radar range of opposing fighters and designate targets while creating so much noise that the opposing force never have the ability to see the F-22's and F-35's (this is on top of the often cited scenario where the stealth aircraft paint targets while the EX's act like missile trucks).
Now plop a few of those in Japan and the Philippines...
I'm mcLuvin it.
I love stories like this. It's the kind of stuff a typical person (like me) couldn't even conceive, but these guys have perfected it. I've always loved the F-15, and it makes me happy that it still plays such a big role after all these years.
Add to that where the F22's and F35's stay in radar passive modes, having the F15EX relay the radar data to the other aircraft in the vicinity using narrowband transmissions that are only received by the local aircraft on the allied side. The F15EX's can paint air and ground targets and transmit that data to the stealth aircraft who may not even have to go active with their radars to engage a target, or go active at the last moment to engage the weapon platform. Throw into the mix some that are strictly tasked with SEAD, you can almost guarantee air superiority over most threats including most small drones.
The one concern that still hasn't been deployed or talked about much are swarm drones, but that is so costly that most countries can't afford to deploy them, yet....
In the Philippines, I don't think we can even afford F15EX. We could barely afford the Korean FA50 and Turkish ATAK helicopter. It'll have to be manned and maintained by the US, but in the event of war, by law, the US cannot use the Philippines as a staging ground to defend Taiwan (but reality of war may change that)
@@triadwarfare Who knows, you might get a few...just because the alliance needs them there.
I still love seeing the F-15 dominate the skies even in 2020's.
You go to toilet everywhere in the street
In the 2050's it'll be fighting alien spacecraft
Super India, where women can walk safely alone at night AND they have a multitude of toilets everywhere. Lol.
@@geordiewishart1683 🤣🤣
@@indiasuperclean6969India SuperPowar 2023 nuke Pakistan!!!!!!
It’s the one fighter air frame they got right the first time. Able to install new technologies that weren’t even thought of when it was designed is a testament to it’s greatness. I have spoken
100% agree. Greatest of all time imo.
Don’t forget the f16 which is the most US produced fighter plane ever.
THE SHELL HAS SPOKEN
Ironically, you are wrong in very close proximity to being right. The other airframe they got right was the "low" version in the "High/Low" pair of the F-15: the F-16. Taiwan currently has over 100 and they are actively procuring F-16Vs. Viper, baby!
@@bryangibson2788 Absolute greatest. I agree.
F-15 is still the best at many jobs, so I am very happy to see it continue being improved into the future. When you have a Hi-Lo airforce, and the Low part is a brand new F-15EX... that is quite outstanding!
😂😂😂😂 great point
NO DOUBT
True ..........but why would you build a second class aircraft F-15 for the same money as the 1st class aircraft F-35.
@@LeonAustthey have different roles. You would want both. As well as raptors and bombers.
What would be really truly outstanding would be for politicians to stop allowing themselves to be bribed by the Healthcare system into always voting against the best interests of the people. Do you know they could build *checks math* 6,610 F-15EX fighters with the money saved by going to a system like that in Canada, and have free health care for all? The system wastes $628 billion a year on paperwork and executive salaries that would be saved, as in it wouldn't cost trillions like they scare everyone with, it would save $628 billion that could be spent on bombs and planes so everyone wins right?and you would not have to pay anything extra for health care. That would be outstanding.
The F-15EX is a missile truck. In a real war, the F-35 is supposed to paint the targets, and the F-15EX is supposed to flood the air with missiles from the rear and wipe the skies clean.
F-15 EX is essentially HIMARS in the air now.
The F35 isn't supposed to paint targets. If you are emitting, you aren't stealthy. The Eagle marks the targets for the stealth craft.
That's dumb. The stealth loyal wingman drones with the stealth jets light up the targets.
@@ex0duzzthey don't exist yet.
Pretty sure the E3s are putting in most of the guidance
The F15 is one of the greatest fighter jets to ever be made, and the fact that we are still building and using a design from nearly half a century ago speaks to how capable they are.
after sf14
Excelent, send to Zelensky, everyone wish to send in Ukraine all the junk , after tank graveyard, a airplane cemetary sound relaxing.
I want one for Christmas
I need one
The USAF doesn't want them. It's a political decision to give Boeing work. The USAF wants the vastly more capable F-35.
Good video, but one small but important correction: the Legion pod functionality of sharing targeting information with other units has been a major capability in F-35 development from the beginning. The idea is that it can penetrate enemy airspace and pass on targeting information to non-stealthy units outside that airspace, even ground and sea units. It's even part of the sales pitch for the F-15EX, with the Eagle providing the F-35 with more ordnance. The F-35 is far more likely to pass targeting information on to the F-15EX than the other way around.
Nice catch, I was thinking the same when he said that.
I remember seeing two F-15 Eagles on the tarmac at McChord Air Force base in 1983. They were so highly classified that we weren't allowed to take any pictures or be anywhere near it, but seeing it even that close was crazy!
We even got to try the the training simulator for it and got their squadron flight patch. It felt like we were in future land!
I was a crew chief on them for about 13 years. Awesome jet...and built tough, unlike the 5th gen jets.
They didn't want you to see the remnants of the Soviet MiG-25 Foxbat they copied in order to create the F-15 Eagle.
Strange. As a kid in the early 80's, I went to an air show at O'Hare airport in Chicago and was up close with these baby's. I talked to the pilot, touched it, walked around and under it. A kids dream come true.
They were not visually classified, just visually sensitive.
Sometimes you just need a workhorse that doesn't do ALL the fanciest new things, but is incredible at most of the important ones. Sounds like the F-15EX fits that bill.
Just too bad it costs more than an F35 while being a worse plane
It's the best aircraft ever built. It will destroy the F-35 in a race, in a dogfight, and in literally any other competition people can think of, except that many inferior aircraft are less expensive. The 100+/0 combat record of the F-15 is unmatched in the history of the world and absolutely priceless in any context.
@@chuckdavinci9044 either you are a reformist or you have no ungodly idea of what the fuck you are talking about. Oh wow, it's faster than the F35. Oh wow, it beats it in a dog fight. Both things do not matter in the slightest in modern air combat. The F35 is unmatched in BVR combat, the only component relevant in the 21st century. 100% of all pilots that have flown other USAF aircraft and the F35 would rather fly the F35 in BVR.
@@gamm8939 It's actually better than the F-35 in almost every respect. And there's a lot of scenarios where being faster, more maneuverable, longer-ranged, and more heavily-armed is actually more important than having a low radar profile.
@@CptJistuce being more maneuverable doesn’t matter at all. In modern air to air combat the only thing that matters is your radar cross section, your radar and the range of your missile. It’s not a superior aircraft at all, and actually no one at the DoD or the Air Force wants it, but congress is forcing them to buy it.
People are really complaining about how Chris says nuclear? Leave the guy alone, he does an amazing job of presenting a lot information in a entertaining and educational manner. Keep it up Task and Purpose.
I didn't hear anything wrong with it, sounds like British pronunciation and certainly nothing to get speech therapy for.
@@Daithi333Mac Maybe he is referring to older videos. He pronounces it correctly here
it's Nukular - get it right 😜
@@jonniiinferno9098 To quote Peter Griffin: "Hahahaha, you said Nuclear! It's Nucular, dummy, the 'S' is silent..."
No trouble understanding him. Speech therapy is not necessary, but if he wants to speak better, good for him. Speaking clearly is almost as important as having something to say, which he definitely does.
The per unit and per flight hour costs are no longer an issue for the F-35 due to improvements in RAM. This improvement in heat resistance of RAM is also going to lower the per/hour costs for the F22! The big thing for the F-15 is that it is a huge missile truck that could carry some of the biggest missiles around. The F-35 can ask the F-15 to fire a specific munition and then can redirect that munition on the way to the target. This makes the combo extremely powerful. Especially once the aim 260 is available.
Can you go further with this RAM subject? This is the first I've heard.
@@mikeyd4390 Radar Absorbing Material. It is a material that can now absorb up to 80% of a specific set of electromagnetic waves, in this case in targeting radar spectrum. This is used in areas where the shape of the plane cannot deflect the wave away from the radar receiver. It's used to "hide" various areas like panel doors and screws and parts of control surfaces. basically anywhere a surface or object on the plane may change it's relative position to the radar receiver changing it's reflection. This material originally was somewhat fragile and so high performance jet like the F22 would "wear" this RAM off and it had to be repaired to keep the Radar Cross Section to it's minimum. Note, any damage to the F22 like an explosion of a missile that might not kill the F22 would make it's RCS jump up from a bumble bee size to a much larger object. The F35's RAM was developed later and is less fryable but it does need consistent maintenance. Early RAM was also reactive to water, it didn't absorb as well when wet. Over time new materials are being developed including ceramic RAM that absorb and disperse electromagnetic wave but also don't heat up like earlier RAM, now it even disperses Infrared and Ultraviolet in a way that makes modern missile seekers harder to find the target and more vulnerable to countermeasures. NOTE, all this information is publicly available. The US and EU have GREAT Chem E.s!
F 22 and f-35 can also carry quite a few missiles on external hard points.
@@myhometechguy They can when they are not in air dominance mode. In fact when Air Dominance is achieved and the F22 provides protection, F35 can use it's beast mode carry more ordinance than an A10 or F15 strike eagle, OR deliver lots of standoff weapons! The F22 as a ground support is more of "check it off the list" item.
The F-15EX is a crony capitalist venture, nothing more. The guy that headed up the project for the Pentagon was a former executive at Boeing. The USAF yet again is being used as a corporate ATM machine and a welfare program for union workers.
I was in GCI working F-4s through Vietnam. I got out shortly after Saigon fell and did not get to work them. I was at Luke AFB which had one of the first trainig squadrons. The difference in power of thrust was quite evident in watching the Gate climb of an F-4 vs an F-15. The turn rate was phenomenal compared to the F-4. That was 1975. It was like watching a turbo charged sports car vs a limousine. Absolutely impressive.
Were you there when one of the airmen got blown in half by a nose tire explosion? Horrible.
@@bryangibson2788 , No, that must have happened after I got out. I was at Luke for my last 6 months.
Wrong, now, there is NO border in the US now the doors are flung open by Biden
Also, the back-seater in the F15-EX is optional. Which means they're available for things not flight-related. Like keeping track of semi-autonomous wingmen.
Oh, that's really cool.
Ya got two crew: Pilot, and Mother of Drones.
@@kjj26k Good point: F-15 being the heavy lifter it is, it could be a amazing platform for deploying drones.
If the F-15EX is able to use the wingman drone concept it would make this platform extremely formidable even against next gen adversaries
@@kjj26k Talk to me Mother Goose!!
The F-15 isn't going to be used for that. They're going to be for the F-35 to begin with and then NGAD, whcih is what will replace the F-22s and F-15s in service.
The F-15EX, when used in the western Pacific to counter China, will be a prime candidate for controlling 'loyal wingman' drones. Being a two-seat aircraft the weapons systems operator (WSO) in the back seat could manage the drones while the pilot concentrates on flying and defending the aircraft.
@@kirsch-qj9bg Your syntax and grammar were completely wrong troll. None of that was in English. FOAD.
@Коп Kirsch Work on your English, as it stands your ramblings are indecipherable
Waaay ahead of you. We call them “swarms”, but not controlled by 15’s yet. I’ve said enough.
Lol ..."in the western Pacific"?... More like the East China Sea and South China Sea.
Most of them will probably be 1-seaters.
Good video. I'll use my experience in the F-15C to address points in chronological order. We're not upgrading F-15s into the EX, we're buying new F-15EX models because the F-15Cs have way too many flight hours on them, to the point that the airframes are cracking and there are G-load limits on them now. Why? The F-35 can't fill the missions roles the F-15C does and there aren't enough F-22s. The F-35 needs a host of logistics support such as FOBs, Tankers and AWACS that the F-15 doesn't need. Why? Range. F-35 can't project airpower because it's too small, it has a hard time cooling the radar and they still can't get close to the APG-63 radar range of the old C model. The F-35 is a 2nd line situation awareness platform in a large airforce and a small regional fighter for a small air force. The F-15C has the worldwide record for longest missile shot, range is classified. We dont care if you see us when we have missiles on the way by the time you do. Can we lock and shoot the F-22 and F-35? Yes. F-22 is harder by far. I've 'air policed' ADIZ in Iceland, Latvia and Estonia etc. F-15Cs accompanied the F-22s on the balloon shoot down because of the SNIPER pods capability btw. Confiormal fuel tanks are indeed a drag. Since the F-15Cs left Lakenheath, F-15Es have been air policing with conformals off. Best case in hindsight we should have given the F-35 contract to Boeing and let Lockheed keep making F-22s. Congress/Defense appointees really hamstrung the USAF so that Lockheed could have their export darling F-35. The F-15EX is the stop gap to the loss in mission capability that decision cost us.
Based
I absolutely love the F15 and the F15EX. Its kinda hard to argue against stats and results. The most important number for continuing the F15 program is 104-0. That's the F15s kill ratio. 104 enemy planes shot down without a single loss.
An F-15 was shot down in 1991 by a MIG-25 Foxbat
No@@dnlcast2
@@dnlcast2it was shot down by anti air, not an aircraft.
don't know where you got your information from
@@dnlcast2nice propaganda
2 F15Es were shot down in desert storm by surface to air missiles, NOT an aircraft@@dnlcast2
I grew up with F-15 as one of my favorite fighters. It makes me happy to see the eagle still kicking butt!
Me too.
Me 3! It just keeps getting better
The F-15 is literally if the United States was a plane
@@mikewithers299I never thought it was going to happen. There was all the hype about Silent Eagle but that never happened, thought this would go the same way, sooo glad it didn't. There is so much potential.
F15-EX is a really nice compliment to 5th gens for sure. Sometimes, you don't care if you're seen. Sometimes, you even want to be seen.
Plus if they focus on the noisy planes they be less likely to notice the stealthy ones feeding targetting information from up close.
Yes definitely. However, stealth planes often carry radar deflectors for this purpose, especially making friendly communicaitons easier
@@memelephant Only during peace time and non combat specific missions (like patrolling, training etc).
@@hugoguerreiro1078 This is a common misconception here. The stealth aircraft do not feed targeting info to a rear unit. Period. That would require going active and they lose all stealth capacity at that point. Did you miss the part where they talk about the new radar? That noisy plane in the back is what will mark and manage targeting for the stealth fighters, not the other way around. It will also serve as a missile truck while fulfilling this first purpose at the same time; it isn't a binary choice where you only get one or the other. It will mark targets FOR stealth fighters, so that they can stay STEALTHY. This should not be so hard yet every other person is under the same impression as you.
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Complimenting is when you say something nice about someone.
F-15 is still one of the most beautiful fighter jets ever after all these years. Good to see that it will still be in service for years to come. 😘😍🥰😍😍😘
I am certainly not an expert but I am a military hardware enthusiast. This sounds like an excellent idea to me. Putting all our eggs into one basket (albeit a stealthy basket) doesn't sound like a great idea. The F15EX and the F35 would complement each other very well. Great speed and maneuverability, combined with the best fighter radar in the world and a f'ton of ordinance sounds pretty useful.
As an F-15 EAgle Keeper AVionics/ECM Troop, Trainer, Instructor, and Supervisor from 1975 thru 1992 I am more than Happy to see the EAGLE Coming back into its own with the EX. LONG LIVE THE EAGLE
That sounds like a very cool career.
I realize that appearance has nothing to do with capabilities. That said, as a recruitment tool, the F15 platform is invaluable. I remember being a kid and thinking to myself. "Damn!!!! How cool would it be to pilot that thing!!!" Butts in seats is just as important as the planes capabilities. It doesn't matter what the plane can do if it never leaves the ground.
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If you didn't have a Model-Kit of the F-15 as a 90s kid (93), yer parents didn't -redacted.-
@@Claymann71When your parents aren't American
I think that today, and I’m 36 haha.
@@indiasuperclean6969 why did China make a news reporter from India leave?
I remember how cool it was when the first F15 simulator hit the PC market, ooh man was that awesome. Then later better graphics and computational models became available, it just got better and better.
I've heard the aerial doctrine idea is to use F-15EXs as rear-line flying missile-artillery boats, while using F-35s as deep-penetration scout-recon units. The F-35 paints targets from behind enemy lines and at close aerial detection range, and rather than give up its own stealth by launching its own payloads, it relays the information back to long-range missile-equipped F-15EXs that use pre-acquired targeting data from the F-35s to launch from outside their own detection range, essentially allowing the F-15EX to snipe enemies from afar, while tripling the kill-payload of the F-35, without endangering either jet.
can we all just appreciate how cool that is? the fact that one plane can fire a missile from 250km away, and another plane can guide it in for the kill on an aircraft travelling at Mach speeds?
@@ItsFourLokoFriday Only thing we're waiting on is a long-range missile capable of working in this system, since the AMRAAM's range doesn't even come close to sufficient for purpose.
But that said, they've been developing several different long-range AAMs, with this particular doctrine in mind for a couple of them too. And as has often been the case, there's a chance there's already been one chosen and put into production that we won't know about until the first one splashes a Chinese bandit.
@@Liberty_or_Dedaim-260 is very close to being operational, and the upgraded aim 120 can do the job already
Sir whistle blowing is a crime ! Your coming with me !
The F15EX is the warbird I'm excited to see come online. The B21 and the NGAD look and sound great, but seeing 70s tech upgraded to 2020s standards is fascinating. The Eagle is the greatest fighter ever to take flight.
Kind of sad the F-14 didn't get the same treatment as the F-15, since the aircraft was hampered by bureaucracy from the start, by not giving it the same engine as the F-15 (granted they would get it in the upgrade later) also not keeping it past the 2000s and 2010s in the fleet. Because of a guy named Dick making it political and because the other company probably is one of his donors.
@@ramal5708 It's all about money to these clowns.
The F15 is not stealthy, but it is very very tough.
There is a story from 1983 where it managed to safely land after losing one of its wings...
I also remember the pilot didn't fully realize the extent of the damage til he landed
The body accounts for more lift than one of the wings
There was one story of a plane snapping in half mid flight (which has been addressed and upgrades has been made to the air frame). The snapping incident happened after the aircraft managed to land with one wing.
So landing with one wing doesn't automatically translate to "very very tough", the toughest jets are su-25 and a-10, the toughest fighter jets will probably something be the mig 31s
Sometimes you want your opponent to know you’re there.
@@sushio4357 The lost wing was from a mid-air collision, not a structural failure. The Mig-31 really doesn’t have a lot of structural strength because it’s not a fighter, just an interceptor and weapons platform. The wings weren’t designed to be able to maneuver, or to take the stress required to do so. If you tried to turn a Mig-31 like you can turn an F-15, the wings would fall off. I believe there was one incident with an early model F-15 having a wing snap off during training, but this was in the 2000s and that particular aircraft was one of the oldest F-15s with an absurd number of flight hours on it, which caused excessive metal fatigue in the wing spars. The Su-25 is tough, but not as tough as the A-10 because of the position of the engines and the wing design being inherently more vulnerable. Both aircraft are obsolete though.
I do think Stealth capable fighters have been taking up too much of the attention. Most of the time what a nation really needs is not a silent killer like the F-22 or 35 but a 'guard dog.' An interceptor, a patrol craft and an escort fighter, one that will not break the budget with the operating costs of a stealth aircraft.
That's why the F16 was fielded -- "High - Low".
Unfortunately, the west shoed itself in, when they made 5th generation and only equated it to stealth. 5th generation aircraft are only awesome if they remain undetected. With the U.S's love of over match, we sometimes forget that every star player needs a team. Stealth has a lot of advantages, but so does speed, raw power, payload and battlefield awareness combined in one package.
@@brandonlevy8680 LOL. Rationalization at it's best. Good luck.
@@jimmiller5600 In every single combat scenario with any type of force, there are the pawns, the knights, rooks, bishops and king and queen. How do you think air power is any different? So, why don't you educate me? Show me how that air superiority is any different in the tactical sense than any other form of warfare? Those expensive kings and queens can't be everywhere. Naval has the HVUs, surrounded by subs and pickets. Land warfare has, artillery, infantry and armor. So please, feel free to explain why air power is unique in that one aircraft is perfect for every scenario?
@@brandonlevy8680 Don't you get tired re-arranging the Titanic's deck chairs? First, "the west" is a jumble of countries and strategies so how can you come up with "5th generation and only equated it to stealth" as a singular tactic? Second, how did you get the definition of 5th Gen so wrong? Only stealth? Rubbish. A cursory wiki search would show SIX criteria for 5th gen. I'm gonna stop here, until you're up to speed. If you want we can resume at that point.
Remember my brother at Eglin Airforce base in FL letting me sit in the cockpit of an F15 Eagle. Fell in love with that fighter then and still love it today. Glad to see it still in use and ready to go when needed.
Just found this after searching “F-15EX”, and this was exponentially more detailed and entertaining than I thought any old result for that search would be. Hell of a video
Insane that foxbat panic built a plane so strong it's viable even today
And that the Foxbat actually turned out to be such a POS.
I love watching this channel grow! Watching the production quality increase over the years has been awesome
Amen. i watched some of the old ones a bit back, and You are definitely correct!
I'm all in on the new F15EX. It's weapons capability, massive speed, and ultra modern electronics make it the dominating fighter jet now as it was when first introduced. Great preview of this beautiful aircraft.
It has never faced combat. So how is it dominant? Americans and their propaganda.
Well The F15EX is the based from the platform of F15E Strike Eagles which is a Multirole strike fighter in 1989. It has stronger structural build than the F15C and was capable for newer upgrades.
If the F15EX include parts and systems from the shelved F-15SE Silent Eagle project, it will be a formidable fighter.
theres a funny, not so funny reason as to WHY its more structurally sound, short version, the front separated from the back on the E models lol
What is Boeing’s profit margin on an $80 million F-15-EX? If it costs $20 million to make at-scale, they could profitably sell it for $25 million. Who exerts competitive pressure to ensure taxpayers aren’t ripped-off?
Good question. The government is supposed to be the force that does this. Do they ? Highly unlikely.
@@xXNightsWatchXx Not when former military officials sit on their board!!!
They want budget oversight and constraints on the Military Industrial Complex. 😹😹😹
The actual cost is closer to $150M if you include all of the missiles that it carries.
When has "not ripping off the taxpayer" ever been a US government concern?
You’re doing a good job w these aircraft analyses.
Really nice work, my friend. I learned a lot from you today. Be safe.😊
The F15C is a straight up air to air combat beast and there's no reason to spend a lot of time designing new shapes, and structures at enormous cost. Engine, and avionic updates, along with a shiny new airframe is the best use of taxpayer money I have seen in a long time. Besides, the 105 to ZERO kill ratio kinda makes being an Eagle Driver the best job in the military 😋
our foreign military sales clients have also dumped a few hundred million dollars worth of modernization and upgrades into the F-15 production lines over the last 30 years or so.
So Uncle Sam is benefiting from those improvements/developments.
I’m not an engineer, but it seems to make a lot of sense to use existing technology and improve on it rather than overhauling the whole plane every decade.
@@giffordsamuelson2163especially proven Designs that have a huge overlap in existing maintenence and training for pilot and crew. It is also faster to develop.
100%... On top of that within modern Air Combat doctrine the new F-15-EX plays the role of carrying the payload into an air battle. The Stealth Fighters and integrated link tech that shares info as mentioned via the Legion Pod, can and will and send messages to payload carriers to fire a munition at a target as fast as possible. If you have a flight of these aircraft loitering with massive amounts of payload munitions with decent range loitering at the edge of an aerospace battlefield you absolutely increase the capability of the Stealth Fighters to continue a mission well after they have spent their munitions. The F-15-EX adds a capability enhancement to all Stealth fighters in this manner.
@@kenponinja1877 No kidding there, a flight of 4 sporting 52 AMRAM's will keep a lot of bandits busy for quite some time.
Hi Chris - being from Germany, I can only say that I clearly understand every single word you say. So for sure, your international listeners appreciate your clear pronunciation - don’t worry about it.
Love your competent analysis… keep going! Great job
Great vid, dude! I've always loved the F-15...I actually lived very close to the factory in St. Louis where they were built and saw them at the airport all the time. It is indeed an amazing aircraft.
I literally lol'd with joy when Cappy said:
"..it can target and launch 12 missiles at one time.."
That is absolutely outstanding!!
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The F15 is a gorgeous plane and it’s brilliantly designed. If it ain’t broke… don’t retire it and get a slower stealth craft with less weapons payload.
Completely ignoring how much of an advantage stealth is and how a new aircraft can have new computers, sensors, and software built in rather than trying to stuff it into an existing airframe.
@@TheSchultinator We don't know how much of an advantage stealth is that is kind of the problem, for one thing as great as the F-22 is and F-35 could be, I do believe they will show up on rival 5th gen jet radars, even if as a bird sized blip, and that those jets will get a firing solution and engage.
The reason I am not sold on stealth is because we haven't fought a peer competitor since World War 2, every other conflict we've been in since then we've had complete tech dominance over, that will not be the case with China and to a lesser degree Russia, in either of those scenarios we are stepping into the unknown and cannot be so certain of our own capabilities.
On paper the F-22 and F-35 look amazing, problem is they have very limited combat records, the F-35 is still riddled with problems to this very hour and I would be surprised if it isn't put to the wayside in favor of the NGAD I doubt the F-35 will ever see major combat like the F-22 before it.
Unfortunately in spite of our own military admitting that China is either near parity in most technologies, and have exceeded us in others, people still have this bizarre cold war perception of Chinese capabilities as being low tech or incompetent.
Our own military officials are very concerned about where we are in relation to China but the American citizenry has this crazy opposite belief that China would be a push over.
It was breaking, that's why the Eagle is being replaced by the Eagle-II. The Canadians literally had to take over NORAD duties with their CF-18 Hornets while the F-15C were safety stood down in 2009. the Eagle-2 is a stronger airframe.
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It's frustrating how many people are ignorant about the F-35. Fourth gen fighters like the F-15 *cannot* perform strikes on targets protected by a modern integrated air defense without taking obscene losses. It really doesn't matter how "badass" people think the F-15 is. 20+ countries aren't purchasing or developing stealth fighters for no reason.
@@seraphx26 Any amount of stealth is better than not, that's the point. Even if it just knocks 20% off a radar's detection range, that's an advantage, and as far as we know the stealth tech on F-35 is a lot better than 20%.
As for 5th-gen fighter radar being able to lock and track stealth craft...how? When they design stealth aircraft they are designing against the very radars those aircraft will being using, in addition to ground and AWACS systems. Unless you know something I don't, the sort of tech leap needed for radars to neutralize stealth isn't coming any time soon.
And I have no idea why you brought China up, that's not a part of this discussion.
The F15EX is a tank in the sky. It makes perfect sense when supplementing our sltealth aircraft in foreign air missions. The jet can carry the payload of 2x the best Chinese jet fighter/interceptor. You want these missle trucks on your side and allow your stealth to maintain flight secrecy while painting enemy craft for the F15 to handle without our stealth craft opening a weapons bay and revealing itselt in a warzone or to enemy radar. This thing is a beast!
I mean it's a tank with an immense opportunity cost, so not really like a tank at all.
The F-15 is like a HOF linebacker it just does not know how to give up ... the plane was so far ahead of it's time !
Old isn't necessarily bad, new isn't necessarily good. All things have to be examined in the light of day and evaluated for their actual use and value. The way you describe it sounds like something we should keep using, at least for the now, till we have something better. Thanks for making great videos.
The A-10 and B-52 are still being used (and upgraded) for good reason.
True, but how do you feel about spending YOUR taxpayer dollars on weapons that don't stand a chance on the modern battlefield? Forget Iraq, Syria, Lybia ect. Those were 3rd world militaries. I wonder how well F22, F35 or even F15 would hold against air defense system like Russia's. Ukraine is getting F16 soon, I guess we shall see.
Just look at the US and Russians upgrading there 4th gen fighters.
It's like grandpa's muscle car but with a better motor, updated wheels and tires, and updated electronics.Still a classic!!! 💯
Grandpa? Man you whippersnappers... Now get off my lawn
A restomodded F-15?! Great analogy!
F-15 is the fastest jet the USA flies now. With upgrades it would be even faster which is perfect for interceptor role.
I am impressed with the amount of research and effort you put into making this video. I hope it gets 10 million views. You deserve it. Cheers
Thank you for covering this Plane.
I came into this very sceptical, but if their radar is actually that good, no need to worry about stealth. They could fire all 12 missiles, and RTB to re-arm with that range, if they don't try intercepting.
The engine should boost it enough so it doesn't have as much drag when holding onto all 12 missiles, seems like a new work horse
my F15E is outfitted with that radar and does detect 35s and 22s, issue is the missile tracking
Pretty good analysis for an Average Infantryman, congrats. I've been up close with F15's for a decade and in the business of delivering the hate, there's not much of any kind of weapon that can single-handedly deliver as much hate as the F15E. With the best airframe cold-war dollars could buy the plane is totally upgradeable so the tech has been refreshed many times over so there's no real comparison in terms of strike capability with the original.
@@indiasuperclean6969 You are posting in the wrong forum.
Long live the mudhen!
@@danstotland6386 it's a bot.
As always incisive and informative. It seems to me that this would be more appropriate for us in Australia than the F35. Keep up with the good work, you are certainly no ordinary infantryman.
@@whatisahandle_69 doesn't matter. They're annoying either way.
Wow, love your program, awesome job, watching everyday, very informative and up to date, let's go
Awesome work as always keep it up thank you for keeping us informed on different things God bless you♥🙏
Flying in ADIZ is not an airspace violation. An AIr Defense IDentification Zone - ADIZ is a self established area, usually extended overthe internationalairspace abovesea. Sometimes, that overlaps the civil aviation Flight Information Region - FIR.
Exactly
Yeah, kinda pathetic of him to act like it is airspace. The funny thing is that when it is about China acting the same as Japan, he suddenly doesn't call it airspace of a a country.
How do I always know where to find the Wumao?
@@Metapharsical ADIZ are located in international airspace.
@@Metapharsical Just can’t take any facts and typical double standards. ADIZ means nothing to other countries and is declared unilaterally
The F-15 is one of my favorite fighter planes of All time and with it’s capabilities being expanded I am Happy to see it’s service life extended as it truly a Beast and when ‘Stealth” isn’t the priority, it is Unmatched!
Yeah it is a hot rod/unmatched... against Mig 21 and no air defense.
Sounds like it has its own special place in our air force which will increase combat capabilities. Thanks for the video!
Great video, I for one welcome the upgrade to an iconic, sleek, and beautiful fighter. It will definitely hold adversaries at bay.
I worked as a machinist at McDonnell aircraft in St. Louis Missouri and remember what it was like walking through the final assembly building - a line of 15s lined up in various states of assembly awesomeness.
They should charge for tours.
it would be nice if McDonnell still was
It sounds like it dominates when stealth is not the highest concern, while also being cheaper. Sounds good to me.
Right on very nice Raytheon. Very cool.
I used to love watching them training in the Lincolnshire skies (UK), watched some great dogfights, they are loud! The EX variant is a formidable BVR fighter.
Keep 'em coming. Thus far, everything we invested in the F-15 paid off in spades. It's one of the best fighters and air superiority fighters, if not THE, ever made. It's an excellent weapons platform, with capabilities that can make exactly what the F-15EX is hard to define. I guarantee you 5 to 10 years from now the F-15EX will still be at the top of a very short list of fighters that dominate the skies. So many of the foreign made stealth planes aren't going to achieve stealth, some ever and others only from a very limited perspective. One or two F-15EX embedded with F-22s and or F-35s, is a flight of planes no one could defeat. The vast majority of opposing fighters wouldn't even get within visual range of such a group. The best part is, it's also a top tier plane in speed and payload. As a fail safe, the u.s. could sell them used and most of the rest of the air force's on this planet would be falling over themselves to get in line to buy them. Anyone who disagrees just hasn't learned enough about this plane.
100 kills in air combat
0 loses
2 lost to ground fire in Gulf War, 1 in Iraq
Definitely. A flight out there with the F35's stealth and data networking, and the F15's capability as a launch platform would be quite the challenge to deal with
Stealth is a joke. Satellites are watching every airstrip in the world, 24/7, and tracking everything in the air, since the 1950s. It's a threat to Russia and China because they're broke and cheap. It's not a threat to the US or other Western nations.
@@ricomock2 Pipe dreams! Everyone fell asleep after beating the crap out of Sadam's 3rd world Airforce. The world moved on. Russians and Chinese have modern radars that can detect USA's "stealth" planes. Instead of investing in missile tech we went on with this Stealth and aircraft carrier nonsense. Turns out all it takes is 3-4 Kinzals and aircraft carrier is gone. Kinzal is a little guy, Zircon is the one to worry about. USA/NATO has the largest military budget in the world and nothing to show for it except submarines.
@DXD2004-
Kinzals? LOL
We are literally giving away missle defense systems that swat them out of the sky, what makes you think they're any more of a threat than all the other hypersonic ballistic missles that have been around since the 80's?
What's your point about radars being able to see stealth planes? Radars have always had the capability of seeing them, there is no such thing as a RCS of 0. The problem has never been radar being able to see stealth planes, and has always been the user of the radar being able to pick them out from the background noise of other things flying around with similar RCS levels. There's a whole lot of things flying around with a RCS equivalent to a 1/8in sphere (rounding up for a F-117), nevermind the .004in sphere equivalent of the more modern planes
Another great segment Cappy! 😊👍
Great wisdom for fighter aircraft! Quick and capable!
I got to work backshop on the eagle(munition) and was excited when they showed us the coming of the 22 (this was 98-99). I wasn't too invested in the process not even when my trainer told me about his incentive flight at 740mph but I feel like making the EX would be like revamping the "urban" public school system vs making the 22 like dropping charter schools everywhere. But just the fact that the Eagle has been around for as long as it has and is still a significant part of the convo says something. The 22 is dope tho, no question.
I absolutely LOVE the F-15 in all its iterations, but as to its being the "fastest fighter in the world", doesn't the Mig-31 top out at Mach 3 (for short periods)? Or did you exclude the Mig because it's strictly an "interceptor"?
The Mig-31 can reach speeds over Mach 3 but it risks engine damage.
Other top speeders, including experimental.
1. NASA/USAF X-15 - Mach 6.72 (4,520 mph)
2. SR-71 Blackbird - Mach 3.4 (2,500 mph+)
3. Lockheed YF-12 - Mach 3.2 (2,275 mph)
4. MiG-25 Foxbat - Mach 3.2 (2,190 mph)
5. Bell X-2 Starbuster - Mach 3.2 (2,094 mph)
6. XB-70 Valkyrie - Mach 3.02 (2,056 mph)
7. MiG-31 Foxhound - Mach 2.83 (1,864 mph)
8. F-15 Eagle - Mach 2.5 (1,650 mph)
9. F-111 Aardvark - Mach 2.5 (1,650 mph)
10. Su-27 Flanker - Mach 2.35 (1,553 mph)
If I recall correctly, the 31 is almost purely thrust because it's designed to run down bombers. Very small weapons fit, and not terribly manueverable because it's not supposed to chase things that can evade, only things that go high and fast. Not really meant to engage hostile fighters.
He did say fighters... regardless of it's limited maneuverability and specific role, the MIG 31 is still a fighter with higher top speed.
The 31 is an interceptor. The 15 is multi-role, one of which is interceptor. The main reason to go at it's top speed would be to intercept. So, pitting both planes in the same role the 31 wins IMHO as it has the higher top speed and a much higher ceiling. What happens when they get there is more to do with the missiles than the plane so I believe whoever gets there first wins this particular argument. And that would be the 31. Everytime.
These new F-15s are much more advanced than their original counterparts. It's like comparing a 1976 Mustang to a 2023 Mustang.
1969 AC-130 Spectres
2020 AC-130 Ghosteiders
The F-35 has top notch avionics that can communicate and pass off targets to other equipment not just other planes
Excellent and Outstanding Analysis!!!
Much like the B-52, these older platforms offer so much opportunities with the new electronics.
You forgot about the mighty A-10!
@@FoxtrotUSA1 The A-10 is a horrible, ineffective, inefficient, inaccurate platform that has more friendly fire kills then all current air frames combined. The gun doesn't hit anything because the spread is as big as lake Tahoe, the electronics have always sucked. It is quite possibly the worst air frame to perform CAS the USAF posses. But congress keeps it alive, even though the Air Force has been begging to retire it for over 30 years now.
17:35 "pass off targetting data to another aircraft" The F-35 can TOTALLY do this from inception. They fly in buddy pairs. The far one has the radar on, and thus is visible to enemies, but keeps far away to be safe. When it spots enemies, it shares the targeting data with the near one, that gets within 20km and kills the enemy from an less-protected angle. Once the near one exhausts his four fires, they trade roles.
F15-E is my fav fighter of all time so nice to see it still flys in one form or another
One of the best (most professional) channels on CZcams.
When I see something like the F-15 get an extended life I'm thoroughly convinced the designers of so many of our military equipment that was designed in the 70sand 80s really had longevity in mind. I could be wrong but when you look at things like the Abrams tank or the various fighters for both the Air force and Navy these designs have been a force to be reckoned with for decades.
One thing I can apply about continuing using Gen 4 aircraft is that its that nice balance between capability and cost vs new Gen 5 aircraft. Which as you pointed out not to many Nations can weild at this time.
Now imagine if these could be used against the Russians right now. Then the F-15 could really rack up some more kills to its name.
F-15s can be used against Russia, just give them to Ukraine 😊
I would suggest that a big part of that is about miniaturization. The Abrams and F-15 were designed to be a specific size to fit specific gear. As tech rolled on, that gear (and often better equivalents of said gear) got smaller/lighter and so with space/weight open for use things got added on. (The Abrams kept getting heavier with each upgrade, though the next proposed change would actually shave 10 tons off IIRC.) Because they were mass manufactured as a platform and are well developed designs (Meaning virtually all the issues are known and if fixable fixed by now) they become cost efficient options for a given role. Example: You want to test an Air-Air DEW system? Stick it on the F-15, B-52 or C-130 platforms depending on weight/size.
Personally we should make new weapons in the mindset of the guys designing the M4 Sherman
@@pierredunn68the only issue is that if we give our F15s to some foreign jock, and they allow the F15 to be shot down. It's going to tarnish the Eagles reputation. I morally stand against that
@juliomaldonado4028 i dont think we should give them to anyone.
:) As for supersonic speed, altitutude and the role of the propulsion power, you've got it the right way around: at given speed (usually defined as a window - no slower or faster) available at given altitude the more powerful is the one that flies faster at lower altitude.
EXCELLENT ( as is Task & Purpose usual )
17:41 Not sure about the F-22 but I'm pretty sure the F-35 can act as a force multiplier. It can relay the target to allied aircraft like the F-15EX which acts as a missile truck. Or maybe I'm just misunderstood?
No he definitely got that wrong. The data-linked targeting is one of the primary advantages of the F-35. Moreover, it is also able to forward sensor and targeting information to naval and ground fires. This is especially significant for missile defence, as it dramatically expands the radar horizon, the threat identification and response window and the data set for the creation of a targeting solution.
the statistics on Nato scrambles just went up a lot after Finland joined, too....
I'm hearing hornets flying over me to and from the border about once a week at minimum.
The F15 has been and always will be my absolute favorite fighter plane. Knowing it’s still in the air and will be for sometime makes me smile.
FYI The McDonald-Douglas F-15 Eagle first flew in 1972, it became operational in 1976, look it up 😃
Great vid, but I always nitpick this one area when people knock the F-35 and F-22 for being "slower" than something like the F-15. That top speed number for the F-15EX is in CLEAN configuration. If it is fully loaded with AMRAAMS and fuel tanks and sensor pods, it likely can't even outrun an F-35. So while the top speed number is nice to cite, it rarely ever gets approached by a 4th gen fighter with a full-sortie loadout.
It is also not the "fastest fighter in the world," even in a clean configuration. The Mig-31is faster and still in service. I doubt the Mig-31 is better in any other way.
I hope they produce a single-seat sport version of the F-15EX Eagle 2.
Probably going to be unmanned in the future to draw fire and let the next generation air dominance fighter take out the threats.
They proposed the F-15CX, but it did not receive funding so a requirement was added to make the plane be able to fly with only one person in the front, or with two people at once
I believe it will onluy be a 2 seater, one airframe is easier to develop than 2 (single and 2 seater). Since you can easily fly it with just one pilot for one mission, or add a second crew member according to the mission.
The EX is based on the Strike Eagle airframe, there are some changes and reinforcements and it only exists as a twin seater.
The sport version is the one without conformal side tanks. The rear seat has much less impact on performance. The tanks can be added or removed as needed.
“What a polite conversation…” Got me. 😂💀
I still love thr idea that the F-15 would be used as the weapons launcher/hauler when given the enemies coordinates by our fighters so that the F-22/F-35 stays stealthy!!
The F15 has always been the best fighter we have. The F15 EX if as advertised is still the fastest we have. I love that fighter
Great idea and its a great airframe, speed is life and the f15 has plenty of it in addition to all its other high tech gizmos. Its never too little to not have overkill. finally a good decision by the USAF
Speed really isnt life in the 21st century. The F-35 is a far superior air craft, and costs less.
please make a deep dive on disputed airspace, i found that bit in this video very interesting
Allegedly, the magnificent F-15 is the only fighter aircraft in history to have NEVER been shot down by an opposing enemy fighter in aerial combat.
I’ve successfully been corrected, as noted below, so I must add the corrections that have been bought to my attention, i.e., that three (3) F-15s have been lost to ground fire.
An absolutely extraordinary record, especially given the fact that the F-15 has been deployed for more than 30 years.
Thank you to CptJistuce, Militavia and Skubidu for your timely corrections.
That is old information given that there are newer airframes out there, that have also seen combat. But regardless, given that the amount of times it's been in combat compared to these other airframes is more than double or triple all of them combined, actually I think it's more like five times more than all of them combined... I'm talking about the ones that have been in combat and haven't been shot down, it is still King
there was that one time in israel, with a missing wing... ;)
It has been shot down by AA guns and SAM, but it has never been shot down by enemy aircraft
Nope, even during the Desert Storm two F-15Es were lost. Not by fighters but SAMs.
Kosova in the 90s
Love it, a great workhorse.
I don't want free healthcare. I want an F-15EXEX
Don't worry, you won't get either.
I want both. Time to cancel social security and medicare/medicaid for few.
We’re so advanced and rich we don’t even need federal healthcare
@@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehiclesocial security is federal and co-funded so that’s not even necessary
@@Otterdisappointment
*"social security is federal and co-funded so that’s not even necessary"*
But in order to introduce something like universal healthcare if that is the hypothetical goal, we would need to cut spending on other things, that are not universal healthcare, that we are wasting tax payer money on.
usdebtclock claims that social security and Medicare/Medicaid are the 2 most expensive things that the government spends money on.
I flew the F-15E and the USAF needs more than the proposed number they plan to buy. The new jets should be going to the active duty and not to the guard. Flying intercept missions defending the ADIZ does not require the newest and most advanced aircraft, case in point the recent aircraft that crashed in Virginia. Building the new fighter without conformal tanks reflects on the strength of the Air to Air mafia in the USAF, the moto of “not a pound for air to ground” comes to mind. I loved the fact you covered the man hours require to keep the stealthy aircraft airborne. With the recruitment problems the USAF is facing, those man hours required will only get more difficult to accomplish. The USAF could have kept the cost down had they signed a contract for a long term buy. Boeing is now out there signing contract for X number aircraft rather than a specific number which would allow them to be in a stronger position to negotiate a better price. I could go on but I hope you get my point, the USAF leadership is putting all their eggs in “new technology” with very limited payload, range and loiter time.
As a former GWOT USAF Crew Chief, can confirm.
Excellent on all points.
With respect, us Guardsmen need good equipment as well. My unit just upgraded to the M1-A2 SEP V2 tanks from the A1 SA models. Give us a shot- you might be surprised how skilled and tenacious we can be.
The Guard does need good equipment but $80 million dollar aircraft to intercept a Cessna, really?
What is the argument that USAF makes to justify supplying the Guard rather then the active squadrons with mint aircraft? Is it flight hours logged on the airframe, maybe a Congressional decree? Has this been done before, the prioritizing Guard over active units? I'm with you, it seems a hairbrained idea, although the Marines seem to do ok with hand me down equipment, just make sure the Crayon's are in the crate.
I was stationed at Spangdahlem Air Base in (west) Germany in 1979, and we had F-4s. Bitburg AB had F-15s, and we could see their runway if you stood at the end of ours. I remember Bitburg's runway was being resurfaced, so we got the air show squadron's F-16s for a while. Coolest thing to watch while you were on the flight line was those guys practicing stunts. Made our F-4s look like a fat guy in a velour track suit trying to break dance.
'So yeah, it's not lost on me'... good one, i subbed just because of this statement. Thank you for doing yoir best to stay unbiased. Its a tough call but you nailed it l.
I also like the F-15EX for the reasons that you say, but let me add a couple. First the data links capability to receive target data, including aircraft, from F-35s. This would give the F-15 "eyes" even further than its own to very long range missiles. Also the capability to control fighter drones as wingmen which would very much enhance firepower with stealthy features. This is a whole new ball game.
ah so it pairs extremely well with our existing stealth and allows them to service targets from anywhere compatible us/allied craft can see (provided any level of communication is possible)
makes those stealth craft much more useful for force projection - they don't even need to fire
I was never a fan of the F-15 but I do respect the role it plays in the USAF inventory. To be honest it is one of those aircraft whose original design is much better than the engineers ever could imagine. I hope the USAF procures their minimum target if not more to replace the aging fleet of older F-15s. And as an F-16 maintainer I have heard from others that this airframe is maintenence friendly which is a huge plus
What don't you like about the F-15? I'm honestly curious.
I live near Komaki airport in Aichi Japan. I have learned how to identify the sound of the F-15. As soon as i hear it i run outside and try to spot it.
I love seeing those iconic double stabalizer
I love the nuanced argumentative perspective. Like a good debate! Well done
I really like the F-15-EX. It is a very versatile platform that has reduced operating costs. It can significantly help increase operational capacity in many different areas all in one platform. You can't have every platform be a high. Our stealth fighters are our highs, this should be our low. I hope to see an increase in purchase amount instead of cuts.
The USAF doesn't want it, they want more of the vastly more capable (and cheaper to purchase) F-35, instead.
@@Xenomorphine I've watched 4 or 5 videos this evening on the F15-EX and it's predecessors. All of them have stated that the F-35 may be about 10% less expensive to purchase but the hourly operating costs are significantly more expensive. It may be impressive to show off something in your hanger but if you can't afford to operate the beast when you need it, it just lost it's value.
@@MrGaryGG48 How? The F-15 simply won't be able to SURVIVE. Therefore, the F-35 is the only one which would ever be relevant.
The USAF is well aware it's pointless spending money on planes which it can't fly. That's why they shut down the proposed F-15EX training facility. They DO NOT want it. They want the survivable, infinitely more capable, plane.
12:42 I usually laugh when Americans say “nukeelar” but now I feel bad, especially when he said “I am working with a speech therapist”.
my speech therapist is also my regular therapist so its like a 2 for one discount , hooah
@@Taskandpurpose hope you're doing fine! best wishes from halfway across the world :)
5:00 its good to hear that indonesia buy 2 dozens of EX, eventough the process still on MoU
Dude!! That jet is INSANE!!! Now, it's freaking BONKERS with its new capabilities!!! AWESOME!!!!
The combat record of the F-15 is alone a reason to consider keeping it in service in a combat role.