How Much Horsepower is a Horse?

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  • čas přidán 23. 11. 2023
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  • @tested
    @tested Před 5 měsíci +29838

    We LOVED this project ... can't wait to work together again!

    • @La_motavation
      @La_motavation Před 5 měsíci +261

      Jet car part 2??!! 👀

    • @saadaziz359
      @saadaziz359 Před 5 měsíci +156

      I wanna know how much Hp does a human make😅
      Oh wait they did it😂

    • @BeauAlbert
      @BeauAlbert Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@saadaziz359Watch the video then 😅

    • @jakewastaken
      @jakewastaken Před 5 měsíci +68

      This seemed right up your alley :)
      I love seeing crossovers between my favorite channels.

    • @Eduardo_Espinoza
      @Eduardo_Espinoza Před 5 měsíci +9

      hell ya! send it!!!! :DDDD

  • @CarsGarage
    @CarsGarage Před 5 měsíci +9206

    Big D is the perfect name for this project.

  • @paultaylor4358
    @paultaylor4358 Před 2 měsíci +284

    As an engineer that works in the energy field, I truly appreciate this. I can see Watt's perspective in communicating to the masses a comparative horse power to machine. How else do you communicate to an uneducated person that can only see what a horse can do (especially ~200 years ago). The contribution Watt made via his steam engine is mind boggling. We still use steam to power everything to this day.

    • @ObservationofLimits
      @ObservationofLimits Před 2 měsíci +11

      That's actually the more impressive part. That the majority of people were illiterate yet were still able to build and maintain fairly complex machines back in the day

    • @k.r.99
      @k.r.99 Před 2 měsíci +7

      It was just a matter of when and never a matter of WHO. I don't understand all the praising of specific individuals. This is like praising car brands, as if other human groups couldn't have achieved certain achievements.
      Ps: I'm fun at parties and a blast at funerals 😛

    • @zircconium2680
      @zircconium2680 Před měsícem +4

      ​@@ObservationofLimits Most people are still illiterate in the original sense of the word.

    • @uu8217
      @uu8217 Před měsícem

      Ye, kinda like "Candela" for light. Everybody has a sense for how bright a candle is.

    • @mennovanlavieren3885
      @mennovanlavieren3885 Před měsícem +3

      A lot of people contributed to the steam engine with many inventions complementing each other. Watts biggest contribution was to let the cylinder only partially fill with a bit of steam and then let the steam expand by itself. Thus using less steam and make a much more efficient engine.
      However with his patent and some money behind him he fought hard against other inventors of the steam engine for 20 years. During those years the development of various steam engines actually stagnated. So his net contribution is debatable. There is seldom a single inventor behind something, but history can only remember one.

  • @khaledslaimia3135
    @khaledslaimia3135 Před měsícem +26

    the way Big D looks at the fire and listen 🤣🤣

  • @brendanressler4359
    @brendanressler4359 Před 5 měsíci +1865

    I love how seriously the Motivo engineers took this project. They didn't even bat an eye and just went about it as professionally as they would any other project

    • @Weekenderoamer
      @Weekenderoamer Před 5 měsíci +160

      Heck yeah we did!

    • @i64fanatic
      @i64fanatic Před 5 měsíci +28

      There's a TON of youtube and streamer weight lifters now, Donut could get in touch with them.

    • @h3ck774
      @h3ck774 Před 5 měsíci +61

      I mean it is a seriously wildly interesting question that inexplicably has no answer until this video.

    • @Low_Marine
      @Low_Marine Před 5 měsíci +19

      ​@@Weekenderoameryou guys were great❤

    • @Weekenderoamer
      @Weekenderoamer Před 5 měsíci +14

      @@Low_MarineThanks dude!!

  • @Bodytribechip
    @Bodytribechip Před 5 měsíci +1166

    2 things:
    1) Someone give the editor a bonus, as well as Big D.
    2) Contact World's Strongest Man about a new event rig.

    • @michaelluong6484
      @michaelluong6484 Před 5 měsíci +139

      Strongman comp is a killer idea

    • @kirkstrope676
      @kirkstrope676 Před 5 měsíci +123

      For real! Love to see how much hp Eddie Hall and Brian Shaw can put down lol

    • @TheyCallMeJawsh
      @TheyCallMeJawsh Před 5 měsíci +36

      100% let’s see it

    • @Bodytribechip
      @Bodytribechip Před 5 měsíci +55

      No time limit, no weight given, just horsepower output for points. And for added strategy, BYO harness.

    • @WanderingExistence
      @WanderingExistence Před 5 měsíci +14

      Horse 🐎 vs Human 💪

  • @JosephWood1941-iz6mi
    @JosephWood1941-iz6mi Před 2 měsíci +96

    I remember in secondary school in the 1950s our physics teacher, Mr Pearson, set up an experiment with just a step. I think I was about 17. We were weighed and then timed to see how may step ups we could do in a fixed time. Can't remember the fixed time.
    We then did the calculations and found that we could achieve a half horsepower.
    Mr Pearson, like many of our teachers, was ex-armed forces in WW2. Most of them were a little bit crazy but great teachers. Mr Pearson had been a navigator with the RAF on the Atlantic Patrol, searching out submarines. No GPS. Just the stars, sextant, compass, and dead-reckoning. Brave men and lucky to have survived.

    • @user-kt2hl5mf1t
      @user-kt2hl5mf1t Před měsícem +1

      Who tf asked

    • @JosephWood1941-iz6mi
      @JosephWood1941-iz6mi Před měsícem +18

      @user-kt2hl5mf1t
      It looks like 27 people gave a thumbs up to my comment, so they must have liked it or thought it was relevant to the subject of the video. That's more than the number of close friends that I have. I'm therefore very happy.
      Perhaps I don't give a flying fox about what you think.

    • @DumLad
      @DumLad Před měsícem +2

      Wow, very interesting

    • @DumLad
      @DumLad Před měsícem

      @@user-kt2hl5mf1tstop being rude to people

    • @yaaboyaj
      @yaaboyaj Před měsícem

      @@user-kt2hl5mf1t he COOKED your ass LMAO

  • @Mori
    @Mori Před 2 měsíci +328

    The fact that i thought it would have been in the 100's is hilarious. Good content!!

    • @Th3_W01f
      @Th3_W01f Před 2 měsíci +2

      Joo Mori, love your stuff man.

    • @VictorFlores-fc7pb
      @VictorFlores-fc7pb Před měsícem +4

      I mean it wasn’t running at top rpm

    • @srcastic8764
      @srcastic8764 Před měsícem

      By definition, it should have been 1 horsepower. That it read 5 means dynos everywhere are wrong by a factor of 5. People who think they have 1,000 actually only have. 200hp.

    • @windy144
      @windy144 Před měsícem +1

      @@srcastic8764 bruh a horsepower doesn't literally mean the power of one horse

    • @davidlencar8690
      @davidlencar8690 Před 27 dny

      @@srcastic8764lmao bro its just a name for a word. it doesnt actually equate to the power 1 horse produces. you might as well call it a catpower it wont mean the pulling force a cat produces

  • @motivoeng
    @motivoeng Před 5 měsíci +3495

    Thank you Donut for working with us on this awesome project, until the next one!

    • @chestermarigza4917
      @chestermarigza4917 Před 5 měsíci +33

      You are amazing! More power and successful projects for you in the future!

    • @Fastwinstondoom
      @Fastwinstondoom Před 5 měsíci +18

      THANK YOU for this awesome video, this is like it's 2010 again and Mythbusters are at their peak.

    • @locksmithjeepguy
      @locksmithjeepguy Před 5 měsíci +9

      you guys are awsome for making this video what it was

    • @locksmithjeepguy
      @locksmithjeepguy Před 5 měsíci +19

      your team and company seems like you could have a very successful youtube channel

    • @lavachemist
      @lavachemist Před 5 měsíci +5

      Does the effective gear ratio change as the rope unwinds from the spool?

  • @josiahbarthelmess2472
    @josiahbarthelmess2472 Před 5 měsíci +4407

    Finally, Donut answering the real questions we all wanted to know

    • @juwanhowardhll8019
      @juwanhowardhll8019 Před 5 měsíci +45

      I never knew I needed that but they came with a banger

    • @gimlysnort1889
      @gimlysnort1889 Před 5 měsíci +15

      I was really hoping it would be like,50. 5.7 really bummed me out tbh

    • @van3158
      @van3158 Před 5 měsíci

      @@BrianHYXisn’t he dead?

    • @viking_nor
      @viking_nor Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@BrianHYXnone of ur buisness

    • @wadeepperson6906
      @wadeepperson6906 Před 5 měsíci +4

      Right I’ve always wanted to know, the math part in a way doesn’t seem to really show the horses actual power besides torque over a certain distance.

  • @rodri_merli27
    @rodri_merli27 Před 2 měsíci +17

    Just out of curiosity: why not produce a dyno that's directly spooled to the horse's harness? Take the car wheels out of the equation and stuff?

    • @horrorhotel1999
      @horrorhotel1999 Před 10 hodinami +1

      the dyno is a calibrated measuring instrument. Modifying it would invalidate its calibration.
      Also, PR-reasons

  • @Cyb3rSynaps3
    @Cyb3rSynaps3 Před 2 měsíci +12

    I used to drive horses for a carraige tour company. Our horses were massive Belgian and Percheron draft horses just like “Big D” here but we used 2-3 at a time per carraige. Absolutely crazy how powerful these magnificent beasts are.

  • @itsfqndave
    @itsfqndave Před 5 měsíci +1673

    Big D is now the official standard when comparing the buffness of horses, with the energy to match his name too 💪🏾🐎

    • @holdthetruthhostage
      @holdthetruthhostage Před 5 měsíci +20

      Pause ⏸️😅

    • @Quentin-vq9oz
      @Quentin-vq9oz Před 5 měsíci

      So big D energy ? I think I've heard that before

    • @HeronCalaris
      @HeronCalaris Před 5 měsíci +47

      "The Legenday 5.7 Big D"... This Horse is Amazing!!!

    • @thatdudeinorange5269
      @thatdudeinorange5269 Před 5 měsíci +13

      They used Shetland Ponys when pulling mining materials out of the mines because the height of them, and incredibly strong for their size. Maybe thats what 1 horsepower stems from?

    • @emptyforrest
      @emptyforrest Před 5 měsíci +9

      How many Big D's does your car have?

  • @ColinDyckes
    @ColinDyckes Před 4 měsíci +2467

    And there was me, hoping you were going to build a horse sized treadmill 😂 That would have let you measure sustained horsepower rather than very short burst.

    • @DanielChristiansen
      @DanielChristiansen Před 4 měsíci

      Yes, and an actual working horse (Not this prancing Hollywood substitute) will also give a drasticly different result. For fun, search: "draft horse" or "horse pulling car being stuck"

    • @hmezzy1771
      @hmezzy1771 Před 4 měsíci +156

      exactly what I was wondering, why not use a treadmill type device?!

    • @KaylaRequiem
      @KaylaRequiem Před 4 měsíci

      The step power of the horse would probably damage the machine in a way that would cause an inconsistency, not to mention the material issue for proper traction for the hooves, and safety for the hooves as well.@@hmezzy1771

    • @doppelganger69
      @doppelganger69 Před 4 měsíci +25

      Us moment 😅

    • @SynaTek240
      @SynaTek240 Před 4 měsíci +81

      ​@@hmezzy1771I mean the horse would for sure be quite confused and it'd be difficult to get the same amount of traction

  • @oldfoolcaraudio
    @oldfoolcaraudio Před 2 měsíci +14

    As someone that has had to do these calculations professionally, I was disappointed until the load sensor was added. re the GPS. The distance could have been done using the cable length/your paper wheel etc but hey. I am glad you added it to check the dyno calculations as those 2 metrics are far simpler to calculate HP than the dyno and all its parasitic losses.
    Regarding James Watts calculations./estimate. You need to keep in mind that his calculation is the average power he observed over many hrs ( and for good reason because its all about "work done" ) So whilst Big D produced 5.7Hp in that burst, thats not what James Watt was referring too. His comparison is to his engine that is expected to produce that power ALL DAY. So I think he is probably closer than you might think.

  • @davidpotter8486
    @davidpotter8486 Před 2 měsíci +3

    As memory serves, the horsepower rating that watt originally established was meant to represent what a horse could continually produce. In other words, you could not have a horse putting out max power all day (just like you guys limited the number of pulls by big d). Remember watt was trying to compare “continuous” work. And while we may not think of it now, horses were a prized possession. Injury your horse and production stops. So they really paced for what the horse could do all day without injury. In that regard, it seems reasonable that big D could continuously work about 1 hp. That said, fantastic video.

  • @jamessizemore7103
    @jamessizemore7103 Před 5 měsíci +7092

    Jerry doesn’t know it, but he just created a video that will be replayed in science classes all over the country

    • @denniswaish
      @denniswaish Před 5 měsíci +347

      Not just country, all over the world.

    • @carbontube7956
      @carbontube7956 Před 5 měsíci +220

      @@denniswaishhell yeah dawg, I am in Ukraine and I am watching it planning to show my daughter!

    • @buckkylem
      @buckkylem Před 5 měsíci

      “BIG D ON THREE”

    • @bhaveshpratapmall2995
      @bhaveshpratapmall2995 Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@denniswaish Hell Yeah man, I am in Israel and I'm going to show this to my cool nerd friends.

    • @TrillMurray
      @TrillMurray Před 5 měsíci +132

      It's kinda crazy to think that my 5hp vacuum makes almost 4x the power he does

  • @MrAntho191
    @MrAntho191 Před 5 měsíci +451

    This is honestly feels like a mythbusters lost episode with Adam making an appearance 😭

  • @jerrycuevas1478
    @jerrycuevas1478 Před 14 dny +3

    Such an amazing and engaging way of promoting STEM !!!!!

  • @markatTDR
    @markatTDR Před 2 měsíci +13

    Okay….I enjoyed that a LOT more than I expected. Well done; concept, design, production (video and mechanical/engineering).

  • @prblackhawk
    @prblackhawk Před 5 měsíci +603

    Sometimes I forget that Jerry is a legit engineer and is good at explaining these things

    • @krispypepper1898
      @krispypepper1898 Před 5 měsíci +39

      same because he def acts the dumbest most of the times

    • @breadloafbrad
      @breadloafbrad Před 5 měsíci +13

      He’s the type of mechanical engineer I aspire to be 😂

    • @mrrnorakneath3544
      @mrrnorakneath3544 Před 5 měsíci +7

      @@breadloafbradthe reality is we sit in an office and do nth fun at all 😂

  • @spldrong
    @spldrong Před 5 měsíci +1238

    Obviously, you need to start a series of testing how many horsepower random things have

    • @eTjendra
      @eTjendra Před 5 měsíci +85

      should invite some strong men

    • @StarFroggo
      @StarFroggo Před 5 měsíci +36

      "How much horsepower does a finger joint have?"

    • @mynarco_yoyo
      @mynarco_yoyo Před 5 měsíci +30

      "how much horsepower does a washing machine have"

    • @ThatCat859
      @ThatCat859 Před 5 měsíci +51

      @@mynarco_yoyowashing machine motors have a horsepower ratting on them lol

    • @breezetixmoto
      @breezetixmoto Před 5 měsíci +2

      YES@@eTjendra

  • @evanwalsh8808
    @evanwalsh8808 Před měsícem +6

    The production of these videos over the years has gotten insane!!! Crazy you can access this level of content for free!

  • @george2916
    @george2916 Před měsícem +1

    A brilliant vid. Felt like a big pivotal moment in the making. Hope you guys get to publish the paper. Literally on the edge of my seat waiting for the number reveal.

  • @The_Slavstralian
    @The_Slavstralian Před 5 měsíci +445

    I was actually expecting a giant horse treadmill with a dyno under it

    • @acegear
      @acegear Před 5 měsíci +17

      same here was expecting that

    • @lbnewell23
      @lbnewell23 Před 5 měsíci +23

      Yeah coz horse treadmills already exist so I was expecting that too

    • @Ghostvertigo
      @Ghostvertigo Před 5 měsíci +4

      Same you got me, I thought they were gonna do one of those original HP tests by The diagrams at the start of video the one he said was probably never done 😂

    • @stormgear896
      @stormgear896 Před 5 měsíci +13

      I was expecting something similar on the thumbnail where the horse runs on a conveyor belt which in turn is somewhat connected to a Dyno.

    • @thatairplaneguy
      @thatairplaneguy Před 5 měsíci

      Yep

  • @Alexechan
    @Alexechan Před 5 měsíci +296

    When they consulted with Adam I was like “wow how did mythbusters not already do this.” And then Adam was like “wow how did I not think of this in all those years of doing the show.” I felt good

  • @reganjeremiah08
    @reganjeremiah08 Před 2 měsíci +2

    This is an excellent video. Beautiful blend of respect for the animal, which is a wonder of creation, and the art of man. Great job Jeremiah.

  • @happyerzya
    @happyerzya Před 2 měsíci +1

    Adam Savage!! No f way, that was a real surprise! Thanks for the blast from the past ❤

  • @christiszkus7160
    @christiszkus7160 Před 5 měsíci +541

    When Jerry said he needed some help from engineers, I thought for sure Mark Rober was going to show up. Adam Savage and Motivo are superb expectation busters

  • @engrmoutassim
    @engrmoutassim Před 5 měsíci +626

    Huge respect for Motivo folks

  • @fahmidhasan9685
    @fahmidhasan9685 Před 2 měsíci +3

    The content we've been looking for for 100 years🎉❤,,, great job brothers.. ,
    Love From Bangladesh 🇧🇩🇧🇩🇧🇩

  • @ABarczak00
    @ABarczak00 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Seeing Adam Savage brought back memories and I loved it

  • @libertyroads7342
    @libertyroads7342 Před 4 měsíci +1605

    Now that you guys have this dyno-rope-thing, I bet some of the world's strongest men would like to try this out. Maybe Brian Shaw, Eddie Hall, etc.

    • @janjua376
      @janjua376 Před 4 měsíci +63

      Precisely my thought

    • @asgernorris2347
      @asgernorris2347 Před 4 měsíci +5

      yeah

    • @jckdnls9292
      @jckdnls9292 Před 4 měsíci +28

      They pull busses and planes I think I've seen them do it

    • @sl9sl9
      @sl9sl9 Před 4 měsíci +50

      Eddie Hall drives around in an actual tank, he's a big kid at heart so this kind of thing would be right up his alley

    • @TannerSwizel
      @TannerSwizel Před 4 měsíci +24

      A world champion tug of war team would be cool to see too

  • @eliminatorxx713xx
    @eliminatorxx713xx Před 5 měsíci +355

    Shoutout to Motivo for thinking of all the points of failure and brining a back up. Those guys were very well prepared.

  • @OwlOfNivica
    @OwlOfNivica Před 2 měsíci

    This was an amazing production all around and the scientific accuracy is the cherry on top. Really high quality and entertaining, Big D was beautiful

  • @sfurtado3
    @sfurtado3 Před měsícem +1

    I love how the horse agreed for a bigger feed content for the next 3 months. Smart horse. Thanks for the brilliant content

  • @RefrigeratedTP
    @RefrigeratedTP Před 5 měsíci +336

    I wish there was a way to tell Big D he will forever be in the history books. What a legend.

    • @roscius6204
      @roscius6204 Před 5 měsíci +7

      He already knows he got it going on.😃

    • @arkhsm
      @arkhsm Před 5 měsíci +3

      Bet ya a Shire Horse would be closer to 7.5 hp !!

    • @RefrigeratedTP
      @RefrigeratedTP Před 5 měsíci

      @@arkhsm ok but who exactly asked? point to them

  • @domenicm3083
    @domenicm3083 Před 5 měsíci +504

    This needs to be a world strongest man competition. I’d love to see Bryan Shaw haul on it

    • @MrWaththage
      @MrWaththage Před 5 měsíci +9

      My first thought also

    • @usandambuli9000
      @usandambuli9000 Před 5 měsíci +13

      I thought the same thing but with Luke Stoltman 🤣🤣

    • @Chukijay
      @Chukijay Před 5 měsíci +9

      They used to do it back in the day. Rumor is they’re rotating this sort of activity back in, which is why some of the bigger guys are either coming back or doing better

    • @patrickday4206
      @patrickday4206 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Yeah they could make money tough man contest

    • @coldsnap4467
      @coldsnap4467 Před 5 měsíci +4

      Bryan Shaw is retired, gotta take someone in peak condition.

  • @hornetscales8274
    @hornetscales8274 Před měsícem

    9:00 Good call on getting help: Didn't expect him. Perfect guy to tackle old questions like this. The rest of this should be good!

  • @juanmaldonado3252
    @juanmaldonado3252 Před 5 měsíci +707

    This is probably the best episode ever made by donut. Hands down.

    • @christophersonawane
      @christophersonawane Před 5 měsíci +10

      Exactly my thoughts! This was insane and probably one of the hardest episodes ever to make!

    • @qwerty2008100
      @qwerty2008100 Před 5 měsíci +10

      How many hands though? 14? 15 maybe.

    • @brazoon1
      @brazoon1 Před 5 měsíci +6

      Hoofs down.

    • @precious_orim
      @precious_orim Před 5 měsíci

      In the past few months at least.

    • @GhostRyderFPV
      @GhostRyderFPV Před 5 měsíci +1

      -probably-

  • @ngdr_hank
    @ngdr_hank Před 5 měsíci +624

    Now this is peak Donut - This is what I subscribed for all those years ago
    Jeremiah has been such an amazing addition and he's really shown peak form here

    • @vitiatedvagabond9632
      @vitiatedvagabond9632 Před 5 měsíci +13

      agreed. i almost unsubbed a couple months ago but this is a BIG redirection in production quality i am blown away. hats off to jeremiah fr

    • @gmailisaretard
      @gmailisaretard Před 5 měsíci +9

      The fact he can do this, make such a dumb idea into something so big brained, and make it all work as entertainment... These guys have got it.

  • @ZeallustImmortal
    @ZeallustImmortal Před 2 měsíci

    The horses at the place you guys went to are beautiful and clearly very very well taken care of. Its not often I see a horse as clean and beautiful as any of those.

  • @shern92
    @shern92 Před měsícem

    Never wanted a merch so badly! Wonderful project! Please more studies like this

  • @_Adie
    @_Adie Před 5 měsíci +349

    Bro, this is ACTUAL science. It's like watching Discovery Channel or something. I can't even begin to imagine how much work had to be put in to get this video out.
    Great stuff.

    • @yeahitskimmel
      @yeahitskimmel Před 5 měsíci +7

      Surprise surprise working with Adam Savage is prob why it gives me that vibe

    • @natethegamer7011
      @natethegamer7011 Před 5 měsíci +2

      And I'm sure it was an expensive video to make with the man hours, horse rental and equipment fabrication.

  • @pm_davidjones
    @pm_davidjones Před 5 měsíci +402

    So the spec sheet on a Challenger with 394 HP should now read: Horsepower: 394 (69 BigDHP). What an incredible undertaking! The things that can be achieved when you get the right people (and horse) working together. Great job everyone! The campfire scene was so good. High Five for whoever's idea that was.

    • @VoltTackle11
      @VoltTackle11 Před 5 měsíci +33

      Bugatti Chiron Sport-300's Horsepower (based on Donut-Motivo "Big-D" Horse Pull Dyno, WHP divided by 5.7 rounded by the nearest .1)
      The 1580 HP Quad-Turbo V16 is now rated at 277 BDHP.

    • @Icarus437
      @Icarus437 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Sensational.

    • @ShiningDarknes
      @ShiningDarknes Před 5 měsíci +1

      Nice

    • @DEIFAN
      @DEIFAN Před 5 měsíci +5

      So that means my car makes 22.28 HP

    • @brownfox4995
      @brownfox4995 Před 5 měsíci +1

      That sounds more impressive Dodge your move 🤷‍♂️

  • @maximilianvangrevenbroek
    @maximilianvangrevenbroek Před měsícem

    This was amazing. How much people can try and get done with a group is so insane. Congratulations with the outcome.

  • @ferryvantichelen6521
    @ferryvantichelen6521 Před 4 dny +1

    Love it when dumb fun and science come together, thanks guys!
    Also, the "horsepower pull" would be a fun event for strongmen competitions, lets see who can produce the most HRSPRS

  • @abepeterson
    @abepeterson Před 5 měsíci +502

    Its crazy how strong little electrical motors are when you see how much effort 1 horse power really is.

    • @gen157
      @gen157 Před 5 měsíci +25

      All that muscle mass being converted to a heavy electrical motor. It really is crazy.

    • @doiceslife8374
      @doiceslife8374 Před 5 měsíci +13

      Yeah some commercial laundry at my job had an motor pulled out. It was rated at 5hp. It was really dense for it's size too.

    • @logschwalan3177
      @logschwalan3177 Před 5 měsíci +17

      I think it’s more about the efficiency tbh, the power loss you get when pulling something in a vertical line without every movement you make being used solely to create power is very inefficient. I think it speaks more to the incredible engineers who have gone from GIGANTIC steam engines that make meager power numbers all the way down to tiny little electric motors that generate horsepower sometimes in the triple digits is far more impressive. The way they can design something to be so small yet so effective at generating power is truly incredible

    • @smokindomain
      @smokindomain Před 5 měsíci +3

      Page up page up!

    • @ivanfromtheeast4709
      @ivanfromtheeast4709 Před 5 měsíci +5

      @@logschwalan3177those big steam engines had crazy torque though

  • @naturally_rob
    @naturally_rob Před 5 měsíci +315

    This felt like a mix of old Donut, New Donut, and MythBusters. Awesome

  • @d3vilman69
    @d3vilman69 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Never seen such a beautiful and friendly horse. Cute name too. The ease at which Big D pulls the rig also demonstrates back in the old days why horses are used to pull wagons. Damn if wagons had rubber tires, gears and suspension the horses would have had an easier time. It's amazing how much stronger an average horse is compared to a puny human

  • @Hakutara
    @Hakutara Před 29 dny

    I really wondered this thing but because of the experiment, You did it all! *GOOD JOB!* I subscribed

  • @milk-it
    @milk-it Před 5 měsíci +549

    Adam Savage's involvement was the cherry on top of a perfect episode! You guys absolutely nailed it.

    • @LilMissTrollFace
      @LilMissTrollFace Před 5 měsíci +6

      I gasped when I saw him, best episode.

    • @rile7648
      @rile7648 Před 5 měsíci +15

      He just started talking about the old days lol and then said go ask some experts

    • @FiveMissiles
      @FiveMissiles Před 5 měsíci +1

      my dad delivers to him on his route, he is such an inspiration to me (both)

    • @FirestormX9
      @FirestormX9 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@rile7648 yeah it didn't seem like he did much else other than that

    • @kingcosworth2643
      @kingcosworth2643 Před 5 měsíci +4

      I liked it
      "Hmmm, I think I need help, Adam?"
      "Yes, you need help"

  • @kutykutyka
    @kutykutyka Před 5 měsíci +660

    That horse looked very relaxed. Didn't seem to exert all the power it had, but this definitely gives a good idea of what a real HP is :D

    • @ortegaJfk
      @ortegaJfk Před 5 měsíci +24

      Not even a draft horse

    • @TheTheMinions
      @TheTheMinions Před 5 měsíci +22

      maybe someone mistaken horsepower for humanpower :DD

    • @clickbaitpro
      @clickbaitpro Před 5 měsíci +5

      @@TheTheMinions It seems like it

    • @TysonJensen
      @TysonJensen Před 5 měsíci +59

      The horsepower was never intended to measure peak output, that's a modern car thing. It was for measuring the expected amount of work you could get out of a horse vs. some motor or other, and after we stopped using horses it stopped mattering all that much how accurate it is. So, a relatively relaxed horse descended from draft horses is exactly the measure we want if we want to know how much Watt was fudging his numbers to make his steam engine look good.

    • @Halliday7895
      @Halliday7895 Před 5 měsíci +12

      right so a car with 200 hp is really 200 manpower and 1000 horse power ! @@TheTheMinions

  • @brunom6582
    @brunom6582 Před 2 měsíci

    Now, this was some creative content. Great job, y'all.

  • @SilverDelta79
    @SilverDelta79 Před měsícem

    I've always wondered what the answer is, and, how might it be done. Great job.

  • @Nifemi203
    @Nifemi203 Před 5 měsíci +475

    As a junior in mechanical engineering I started feeling like all my job opportunities were going to restrict my creativity. Motivo sounds like such a great place to work. Will definitely apply to them !!!

    • @BikingVikingHH
      @BikingVikingHH Před 5 měsíci +1

      Yeah and considering the absolutely retarded contraption they came up with to measure a horses power instead of just wrapping the pull rope around the dyno drum gives me the impression they have a perfect spot for an incompetent engineering diversity hire on their team like you lol

    • @BACKUPKushPatel
      @BACKUPKushPatel Před 5 měsíci +5

      I want to have my own motivo someday. Felt like I was back in university soving problems daily.

    • @Coudy_the_Cat
      @Coudy_the_Cat Před 5 měsíci +3

      About to go into a mec e major

    • @ther3aper561
      @ther3aper561 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Good luck bro!

  • @davledav
    @davledav Před 5 měsíci +1082

    Can we take a moment to appreciate how well groomed the horses were? Sending love to the ranch for taking great care of their family. ❤

    • @SubjektDelta
      @SubjektDelta Před 5 měsíci +6

      yay capitalism, more pretty more money!

    • @vffa
      @vffa Před 5 měsíci

      r/pferdesindkacke

    • @MrKoblepot
      @MrKoblepot Před 5 měsíci +4

      Congrats to Big D and his family, beautiful people and horses 💝

    • @lnemf
      @lnemf Před 5 měsíci +42

      ​@@SubjektDeltaBeing pretty has nothing to do with it. Grooming a horse is part of owning a horse, and it keeps the horse healthy, happy, and comfortable

    • @MtnNerd
      @MtnNerd Před 5 měsíci +8

      The company is "horses for productions" so those horses are all movie stars.

  • @TheGentlemanRougeScholar
    @TheGentlemanRougeScholar Před měsícem

    This project is was amazing, well done guys.

  • @mikb277
    @mikb277 Před 28 dny

    This is 1000% something I have always thought about, thank you for making it happen.

  • @bicyclist2
    @bicyclist2 Před 5 měsíci +426

    Someone should have done the equivalent of this 50 to a hundred years ago. I asked a auto mechanic about this when I was a kid in the 80's. I'm surprised that Myth Busters didn't do something like this when the show was airing. This is one of the coolest episodes of Donut. Thank you.

    • @Iseenoobpeoples
      @Iseenoobpeoples Před 5 měsíci +20

      They did do it and it came to 1hp over a day's work, what we see here is peak HP not sustained HP.

    • @testermonkey2304
      @testermonkey2304 Před 5 měsíci

      cars are dinoed at peak horsepower as well its good for an apples to apples comparison@@Iseenoobpeoples

    • @braed_1651
      @braed_1651 Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@IseenoobpeoplesLMAO no they didnt😂 also thats not how this works

    • @bobhill3941
      @bobhill3941 Před 5 měsíci

      I completely agree. I was so excited to see this after seeing James Watt's diagram and formula in textbooks forever. I just wonder how much the reduction with the harness going through the pulleys may have contributed or not to the results.
      It is great to finally get a definitive answer.❤

    • @brettbarker8444
      @brettbarker8444 Před 5 měsíci

      Because CZcams didn’t even exist 50-100 years ago. 🤓

  • @crashingpowerz8324
    @crashingpowerz8324 Před 5 měsíci +214

    jeremiah is the first human swapped civic build, im so impressed

    • @CarsWithFrank
      @CarsWithFrank Před 5 měsíci +5

      J16

    • @Albrtd3
      @Albrtd3 Před 5 měsíci +2

      If you've ever had to push a civic.... Then it's a human swapped civic, no? lol

    • @JTheraos
      @JTheraos Před 5 měsíci +6

      ​@@Albrtd3only if you remove the motor and pull the car from the engine bay lol

    • @johnagudelo1645
      @johnagudelo1645 Před 5 měsíci

      The flinstones?

    • @jeremywoodruff8837
      @jeremywoodruff8837 Před 5 měsíci

      J Swapped

  • @Mrpuggo0322
    @Mrpuggo0322 Před 14 dny +1

    Loved the RDR2 horse bonding message 😂 6:14

  • @MrElemonkey
    @MrElemonkey Před 2 měsíci

    i really enjoyed this video one of my all time favorite donut projects

  • @elgard18
    @elgard18 Před 5 měsíci +341

    My jaw literally dropped when Adam Savage showed up, what an episode. You guys consistently put such huge smiles on my face.

    • @AndrewMackoul
      @AndrewMackoul Před 5 měsíci +7

      When he first came on, I immediately thought how perfect of a Mythbusters episode it could be. I'm glad he agreed.

    • @calibratedtub4810
      @calibratedtub4810 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Spoiler Warning

    • @baby-sharkgto4902
      @baby-sharkgto4902 Před 5 měsíci

      I was more surprised to see Alex from 2STROKE STUFFING

    • @LagovistaBoy
      @LagovistaBoy Před 5 měsíci

      Yeah but Adam is definitely showing his age :( the eye droop makes me think he's had a few strokes by now

    • @Eduardo_Espinoza
      @Eduardo_Espinoza Před 5 měsíci

      love Alex until he started backing up Established Titles 😞

  • @FLeXn_YT
    @FLeXn_YT Před 5 měsíci +383

    Only if Big D knew how much he means to the world at this moment and will remain a huge part and hold much significance to the automotive industry. He will be the one ppl will think about when talking about horse power.

    • @BariumCobaltNitrog3n
      @BariumCobaltNitrog3n Před 5 měsíci +2

      Not really. He's an outlier, not average at all. This will be the beginning of a world of bad data.

    • @ruk2023--
      @ruk2023-- Před 5 měsíci

      He's a draft horse. They are the kind of horses that powered farming machinery in history. What do you mean an outlier?@@BariumCobaltNitrog3n

    • @Shreyo.69
      @Shreyo.69 Před 5 měsíci +10

      ​@@BariumCobaltNitrog3nu gotta be the biggest party pooper 😂

    • @karlcorrz
      @karlcorrz Před 5 měsíci

      @@BariumCobaltNitrog3n bro shut up

    • @FireBeam
      @FireBeam Před 5 měsíci +3

      ​@@BariumCobaltNitrog3n
      Sorry D-bag, but the car at the beginning was making 733 manpower and 140 horsepower. Deal with it 👍

  • @dragonking8775
    @dragonking8775 Před měsícem +1

    22:20 a casually day for a 3 in line engine

  • @Paperemt
    @Paperemt Před 21 dnem

    I have no idea how I came across this video...but I'm really glad I did. Great concept and execution!
    New subscriber here.

  • @CheapSushi
    @CheapSushi Před 5 měsíci +418

    I just wanted to say that I love that you guys respected the horse itself and cared about it and did it safe. A lot of content creators probably wouldn't have taken it as seriously or been as considerate. Big D is forever immortalized in an awesome episode, a scientific paper and an awesome shirt!

    • @selfproclaimednobody4614
      @selfproclaimednobody4614 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@yokai-vr3jz😂 man, get out of here with that bullshit🤡!

    • @Lofi.z34
      @Lofi.z34 Před 5 měsíci +8

      @@yokai-vr3jz clown

    • @nightspicer
      @nightspicer Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@yokai-vr3jz huh?

    • @Couyou
      @Couyou Před 5 měsíci

      @@yokai-vr3jzprojecting in a yt comment is kinda insane

    • @summerfalls1998
      @summerfalls1998 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@yokai-vr3jzAmen.

  • @atharvasaple7021
    @atharvasaple7021 Před 5 měsíci +203

    As an aerospace engineer and a huge DONUT fan who spent most of the uni time just going through academic papers and research i CANNOT WAIT to read this paper. Probably the most ive ever been excited to read an academic paper!! All love and respect to DONUT and Jeremiah.
    Edit: Hoping the academic peer review goes well and it works out ALL THE BEST!

    • @BrunoLate98
      @BrunoLate98 Před 5 měsíci +4

      I am gonna keep this comment here so I can come back if they release that paper

    • @atharvasaple7021
      @atharvasaple7021 Před 4 měsíci

      hahah fr cant wait!!
      @@BrunoLate98

  • @stestar09
    @stestar09 Před měsícem

    Fantastic work 👏🏼 loved it 😊

  • @adnananlyesilova6414
    @adnananlyesilova6414 Před měsícem

    I loved this video. Love it when donut do more engineering stuff.

  • @Herculesbiggercousin
    @Herculesbiggercousin Před 5 měsíci +187

    Donut ascended to a whole new level with this one. Adam Savage, AND the assistance of Motivo and their team of engineers to build us this experiment from the ground up is just awesome. Good job you guys!!

  • @DavidOrtiz-vz5bs
    @DavidOrtiz-vz5bs Před 5 měsíci +305

    As an engineer myself, this is such good motivation for young engineers who want to apply their knowledge to questions they pondered on. Thanks Donut!

    • @mycosys
      @mycosys Před 5 měsíci +3

      It was so cool, but i spent the whole video wondering why they didnt just bolt the spool to a hub dyno rather than that whole rig to transfer it to a wheel dyno

    • @bilalshahid1263
      @bilalshahid1263 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@mycosys19:30

    • @bilalshahid1263
      @bilalshahid1263 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@mycosyswe need tension to get an accurate answer. Where are you going to mount the horse power calculator? It is possible but it will create the process more complicated.

  • @easycrider7453
    @easycrider7453 Před 2 měsíci

    Liked the first pull when the horse dug the tip of its rear hooves in when he felt the resistance on the rope.

  • @eagleyes121290
    @eagleyes121290 Před 24 dny

    This was sick!! I love this!

  • @papawheelie5835
    @papawheelie5835 Před 5 měsíci +214

    The fireside chat with Big D was cinematic excellence! Way to step it up, guys!

    • @kc510
      @kc510 Před 5 měsíci +1

      What did he burn?

    • @willynebula6193
      @willynebula6193 Před 5 měsíci +6

      It was the old horsepower tee shirt

    • @XX-xv6xe
      @XX-xv6xe Před 5 měsíci

      16:28 lol

    • @ku8721
      @ku8721 Před 5 měsíci +4

      16:28 Big D "Why the hell did you bring me out here to watch a T-shirt burn???"

  • @trevorpom
    @trevorpom Před 5 měsíci +206

    What a beautiful horse. He wasn't missing a thing either and was having the time of his life by the looks of it.

    • @raffriff42
      @raffriff42 Před 5 měsíci +6

      Yes. Except maybe standing a little too close to that fire?

    • @trevorpom
      @trevorpom Před 5 měsíci +14

      @@raffriff42He was close but, if he was uncomfortable with the fire I’m pretty sure they’d have absolutely no chance of keeping him there beside it and I don’t think his owners would put him in a situation that would endanger him.

  • @aryanaryachoudhary
    @aryanaryachoudhary Před 2 měsíci

    That is one majestic horse! Good job, Big D!

  • @Robin.962
    @Robin.962 Před měsícem

    I really like your videos. They are of high quality and very entertaining and exciting, especially if you're interested in cars.

  • @lotusmanb3832
    @lotusmanb3832 Před 26 dny

    Finally a You tube video worth watching ! Thank you for doing this project.

  • @kentslocum
    @kentslocum Před 5 měsíci +362

    The moment I saw the title of this video, I instantly thought, "Wait a minute, wouldn't the Mythbusters have answered this question already?" So I was both excited and astounded when Adam Savage showed up and admitted they had never done such a thing.

    • @Vysair
      @Vysair Před 4 měsíci +16

      I liked how Adam would always magically pop out in these types of things

    • @ludvigjansson5790
      @ludvigjansson5790 Před 4 měsíci +1

      He never base tested with a car!
      We don’t have a way to verify their calculations. If we want to be scientific, yes all this works, but at least compare the linear drag Big D could make with that of a car that you have verified the horsepower with the same dyno before, to make sure the calculations are correct, yes the calculation’s results made sense, but it wouldn’t be that hard to just hook it up to a car to see if the power lost is equivalent to the calculations. Always have the base comparison tested the Same Way! otherwise good video, and inspiring :)

  • @khalid_thegreat8160
    @khalid_thegreat8160 Před 5 měsíci +539

    Donut and Adam Savage is the collab I didn't know I needed and loved. Absolute perfection.

    • @Skinflaps_Meatslapper
      @Skinflaps_Meatslapper Před 5 měsíci +15

      It wasn't that much of a collab though, more like Donut paid a premium to have a quick video call with Adam, who said "yeah I'd hire some engineers, have fun with that, bye".

    • @TheHoofSmith
      @TheHoofSmith Před 5 měsíci

      This work was already done by GPS trackers. People who competitively ride are using GPS to see how far and how fast they are going. When using hills to increase a horses stamina and performance the rise in altitude as well as the speed and time can be converted to work in Joules this can then be converted to Watts.

    • @JTheraos
      @JTheraos Před 5 měsíci +1

      All he did was tell him to not do it alone LOL still cool he showed.

    • @1nvisible1
      @1nvisible1 Před 5 měsíci

      *I've actually always wondered this. Also, Big D is the Arnold Schwarzenegger of horses.*

    • @danieljameson7317
      @danieljameson7317 Před 5 měsíci

      Donut, Adam Savage, and slow mo guys, collaborating on one video would be perfection. It would break CZcams!

  • @pashtetp5568
    @pashtetp5568 Před 14 dny

    Reminds me of our horse back in Ukraine my brother owned....love yalls videos. I drive west to east coast. Should probably start hitting that 👍 button on the vids

  • @moOony43
    @moOony43 Před 29 dny

    Thank you for all the details, engineering skills, and knowledge, to open up our minds. I just got one question. 🥰
    🤔
    Why can't you put the horse tightened to a wall over a treadmill that has a sticky or rough surface and calculate the horsepower upon the Tourqe or the pulling power the horse makes?

  • @jamesred1595
    @jamesred1595 Před 5 měsíci +342

    I can still remember when Jeremiah was new to Donut, hosting B2b and people seem to dislike him. Well, I'm more than happy to see Jeremiah is still with Donut today. Love to see more of these 30+mins of content, feels complete.

    • @aloisblazit0053
      @aloisblazit0053 Před 5 měsíci +4

      Never understood why people didnt like him i always loved his videos

    • @chrishernandez2490
      @chrishernandez2490 Před 5 měsíci +10

      Haha, people HATED him and were tearing him to pieces in the comments. I'm glad to see everyone has come around to like him

    • @AlarisOficial
      @AlarisOficial Před 5 měsíci +10

      Dude is uberly smart and capable, not to mention he wrote some of the best Up to Speed episodes and lots of other cool stuff 💪🏻

    • @SadisticCanada
      @SadisticCanada Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@AlarisOficial ya anybody that's an engineer and with a sense of humor like him is gonna be a good time, I'm glad everyone came around. Him and Jobe are my fav hosts.

    • @combatwombat_25
      @combatwombat_25 Před 5 měsíci

      I gotta say I was a hater, would roast the fuck out of him on every video. I still feel bad when I enjoy things like this.

  • @user-lb8xg7jq7f
    @user-lb8xg7jq7f Před 4 měsíci +1474

    1 Big D = 5.7hp also makes Watts calculation of that 10hp steam engine to replace 2 draft horses pretty accurate

    • @ChiranjeevPatra2022
      @ChiranjeevPatra2022 Před 4 měsíci +47

      yes you're pretty right my friend!

    • @wombatillo
      @wombatillo Před 4 měsíci +198

      I doubt a horse can continue pulling like this for very long. 3.75 kW power to the dyno must mean about the same goes to heating the horse's muscles. 20 minutes and the horse would be drenched in sweat and panting. 1 hp might be a simplistic and faulted approximation of a horse working for hours at a time at 1 hp.

    • @Kris_M
      @Kris_M Před 4 měsíci +61

      @@wombatillo Indeed, they were only allowed to do 5 pulls, and that's with pauses in between.

    • @LongdownConker
      @LongdownConker Před 4 měsíci +126

      They did only use a light draft horse. Friesian horses aren't bred for pulling power. A true draft horse like a clydesdale is a lot stronger at pulling as that is what they are bred for

    • @felixmoore6781
      @felixmoore6781 Před 4 měsíci +9

      @@wombatillo Is it "about the same" or is it about 80%? It'd still be a lot, but this is an interesting technicality.

  • @zero16lives
    @zero16lives Před měsícem

    Recently started watching donut and loving it, but Jerry reminds me so strongly of Adam DeVine. I can't be the only one.

  • @MattSoverns
    @MattSoverns Před měsícem

    Hell yeah, Adam Savage!

  • @illuminatustm
    @illuminatustm Před 5 měsíci +393

    Kudos for including Adam Savage, nice surprise 🎉

    • @van3158
      @van3158 Před 5 měsíci +1

      overrated

    • @mirfalltnixein.1
      @mirfalltnixein.1 Před 5 měsíci +16

      @@van3158Thanks for letting us know how you see yourself but don’t beat yourself up, I‘m sure the people in your life have realistic expectations of you.

  • @banananjam87
    @banananjam87 Před 5 měsíci +356

    I'll be short: one of the greatest videos i ever seen. I was too wondering many times, how do we actually measure this. Who gave us the standard for this. And thank you all at Donut, Motivo, Big D, Savage and all that helped. Congrats

    • @bigdfitness5020
      @bigdfitness5020 Před 5 měsíci +2

      You're welcome 😂

    • @RekySai
      @RekySai Před 5 měsíci

      If only they used to plow horse you know an actual horse that pulls things

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred Před 5 měsíci

      I always knew James Watt came up with the horsepower rating. I never knew how he did it though. What people have to realize is it is an average over time. Sure the horse pulled 5.7 HP on its pulls but it has to sustain that kind of effort indefinitely. An engine can and will run all day long. It wasn't brewing where horses were being used either but mining. Mines had to have large stables for their operations. It was an enormous expense to maintain. The financial incentive to get rid of all of that was huge. Everything had to be pulled out of mines. Which included a lot of water.

  • @SoirEkim
    @SoirEkim Před 26 dny

    I like this channel and my favorite segment was the Adam Savage cameo. Also…
    I’m curious what data a Clydesdale would give you?

  • @boziewz6125
    @boziewz6125 Před měsícem +1

    Weirdly, this hits a spot that no viewing really has. I really need more like this 😅

  • @coleray1413
    @coleray1413 Před 5 měsíci +221

    I enjoy the shot of Jeremiah riding the horse with a full face motorcycle helmet

    • @angrymadscientist
      @angrymadscientist Před 5 měsíci +3

      Okay, seriously, is there anything that guy can't do!?

    • @theglitch99
      @theglitch99 Před 5 měsíci +1

      You can thank the lawyers for that! Politics = helmets

  • @michaelm.1947
    @michaelm.1947 Před 5 měsíci +399

    A cameo by Adam, a beautiful horse, an amazing team from Motivo, and a great job by the donut team all together in one video. Thank you for doing this. I hope this actually becomes a proper peer-reviewed paper!

    • @Treityn.
      @Treityn. Před 5 měsíci +6

      Yeah would be cool to introduce this into all kinds of current things like strongmen competitions and so on

    • @brad4013
      @brad4013 Před 5 měsíci +1

      1 horse produces 5.7 horse power 😂 brilliant! I would never have questioned it.

  • @percyblackson4821
    @percyblackson4821 Před měsícem

    This is a very good initiative
    Thanks to you’ll for your efforts
    I just love science 🤓

  • @evdomos
    @evdomos Před měsícem

    I just wanted to say I love how seriously Jeremiah took this project.

  • @discoverymoi
    @discoverymoi Před 5 měsíci +376

    The pet-talk with Big D was the peak of the video. 👏 🐴 ❤️

  • @Fanzindel
    @Fanzindel Před 4 měsíci +119

    Adam Savage telling a mechanical engineer he needs to work with a proper mechanical engineer… that’s a proper Savage move 💀

    • @billowen3285
      @billowen3285 Před 4 měsíci

      Having a mechanical engineering degree is only the first step I guess

    • @Fanzindel
      @Fanzindel Před 4 měsíci

      Sorry, I didn’t read anyone’s resume, just thought it was pretty funny 😅

  • @MM-gw4zg
    @MM-gw4zg Před 20 dny +1

    Great video! Would you consider a follow-up? I've read somewhere that drafthorses sandbag...meaning they only put out partially when pulling alone, but if they have a partner, they try to out pull each other, effectively nearly doubling their output... Wonder if this is true.

  • @rethinkdaily9321
    @rethinkdaily9321 Před 25 dny

    What a great video! So much better than anything on motor trend.