I wouldn't say this movie scarred me as a child, but rather instilled in me a deep sense of empathy for all living creatures, in a very strong and urgent way. Scriptwriters, movie producers and directors shouldn't underestimate the mind of a child.
I too had lived many years thinking it was just a fucked up fever dream in the early 90's; turns out rats with glowing eyes was indeed a collective audio-visual stimulus that was fed to all of us all along
To be completely honest, Nicodemus is a very wise elderly and slender rat. And another thing, he's a very old, very kind, good-hearted, caring, protective, noble and kind of worrisome creature.
Damn I gotta agree with you the but Ncodemus seems more impressive in the book than in the movie. In Don Bluth's version he seems more wise and elderly but in the book he's practically the same as the other rats except he's largest and is missing an eyeball lmao Also he doesn't die in the book which is a huge plus ;;))
@@alstjrqkr689 The theme is that the animals who are supposed to be stupid were treated badly by humans and became smarter and had deeper feelings; my house had many people with mental sickness so we were very afraid of people in places like NIMH that give us drugs and lock us up like the rats. Now I am grown up and I have two pet rats and I have many good times of love with friends. ❤️🙏
1:13 Um, yeah. About those needles. Those needles would be _way_ too big to inject a rat with without impaling a major organ and killing it. It's pretty likely that this scene was made from the rats' perspective, therefore the needles only appeared that big to them.
For some reason the line “ One night I looked upon the words written on the side of the cage, and understood them” it’s almost like the story of Muhammad being shown how to read by an angel and he begins his story “in the beginning” As well as persecuted race escaping imprisonment by a messiah character I’m not a religious person by nature but I do love how the histories of these religions can inspire such compelling forms of story telling
I agree. It's so simple, and yet ominous because of the choice of words being said. He's explaining it to Mrs. Brisby in a way that she could understand, yet the gravitas is still there. I may be a man of faith, so I may be biased, but it's comforting to know that there is still some appeal in how works of art can be derived from religion without resorting to preachiness. It makes sense too in a historical context because we as a species used to be really connected through shared religions in our earliest of histories. Even Homo Sapiens were said to have flowers decorating their caves or cavern walls of their deceased, indicating that they held some sort of spiritual belief.
This scene intrigued as a kid. I even shared this in elementary school, but everyone in class never understood it. They were indifferent. They just thought this movie was weird and didn't appreciate the animation effort. They wanted Shrek like 3d films. They wanted to laugh rather than think.
I know so many like this book, but I really like the book better. The scientist at Nimh was NOT cruel to the rats and mice (in the book), and also there wasn't any mumbo-jumbo mystic quality. The fact that rats were made intelligent is wonderous enough!
I think in the book and movie they hint at trying to get electricity through means other than stealing from the farm house. I always sort of thought if they were so intelligent they may be smarter than even people do you think they were going to build a nuclear reactor of some sort?
I don’t think I realized, despite the dialogue, that the story was implying the rats were much stronger against the winds than mice, making our two boys beefcakes
Scientists don't keep rats in cages that are so easy to escape. Rats aren't stupid and when it comes to escape or infiltration, they are exceptionally clever. You don't need to be able to read to escape from those cages.
thenewguyinred Over the Garden Wall, Steven Universe, Gravity Falls, Kubo and the Two Strings, The Little Prince, Studio Ghibli movies, Kung Fu Panda 2, etc.
Not me. It actually got me interested in the mysteries of the limitations of biology. Although, I felt terrible for the rats. Science is meant to help people, not satisfy sadistic appetites...
Me too. I remember, I was really scared when I watched this part for the first time. My mom didn't like this movie, she said, it's not really for children. But she never forbade me to watch it, although she or my dad were always there when I wanted to watch this awesome movie. And I liked it, I like it even now. But now I understand it more than when I was a child.
There is a full lentgth movie on the origin.Showing step buy step what happened to them from the street to jonathans death. I cant find itbut, i remember seeing it as a child. the origin parts of this movies are the key scenes in that movie.
1:39 through 1:50 had terrified me as a kid. I was six years-old at that time, and had no idea that it was supposed to be a representation of the rats' DNA undergoing a brutal mutation. It had a nightmarish, almost lovecraftian quality that was truly scary.
Boy, they left out a hugh part of the book, where the rats and mice actually are forced to learn reading. They didn't just 'magically' understood words, they went through a difficult and long learning process.
I never thought the rats and mice magically understood the words in the movie. There were many parts of what happened in the lab left out for simplicity’s sake. Nicodemus said that he looked at the words under his latch and understood them, but never said he didn’t understand other words taught to him before.
Thats true! They were taught to read and furthermore the scientists knew that they could read. But they underestimated their intelligence. And their escape took weeks of careful planning not just one day.
It is intense but I always loved it so much, one of my favorite movies of all time and always was, I watched it the first time extremely early in my life and many times over and it's just soo good!
Dr. Calhoun spent the better part of a 40-year career working at the National Institute of Mental Health, or NIMH, conducting various experiments and studies on mice to see what would happen when their population grew too big for their environment. His most famous experiment placed four pairs of mice into a mouse universe he called “Universe 25,” a 9-foot-by-9-foot metal pen with tunnels, nesting boxes, and food and water dispensers. The population doubled every couple of months, until it reached 620 mice on day 315. By day 560, there were 2,200 mice crammed into that 9x9 space-and things got pretty ugly. see the rest here: mentalfloss.com/article/67202/scary-real-life-inspiration-mrs-frisby-and-rats-nimh
My mom wouldn't buy us this movie when we were little because of this scene. I don't use animal tested products because it makes me sick to think that this happens to poor animals.
Lord Passion Such arrogance and god complex. What did we do exactly to trascend "animals" as you said? Is it because we can make sophisticated tools? A lot of other species can make tools impossinle f or us to reproduce? Is it because we are intelligents? That is irrelevant. No matter how evolved humans will always be part of the animal kingdom. Having bigger brains doesn't give us the right to proclaim ourselves as gods and enslaving/destroying all the other species. Animal testing is completely useless in term of research and can't help any project least of all the nazi atomic nosense you quoted
Well, one alternative to animal testing is the use of human-derived cells, like those taken from tumors. Those can be grown and split infinite times, to be used for toxicity testing, etc. Like HeLa cells, for instance. Commonly used nowadays. There are many more. Also in use but more expensive and time-consuming (yet very valuable) are those derived from human stem cells like bone marrow, which can be differentiated into many different kinds of cells in the human body for more specific kinds of testing and experimentation. We need for these kinds of routes to become more cheaper and reproducible over time, in order to one day hopefully supersede the need for animal testing, which unfortunately is still in use.
Worth noting that many advances in VETERINARY, and not just medical, science have been achieved thanks to animal testing, allowing us to better care for animals as a whole. Food for thought.
hypocritically, no one would turn down health gained via testing on animals. its a necessary evil sometimes. it could probably less than what occurs, but its not unavoidable.
Upon first watching this, I was just..caught off guard. this movie has to be one of my favorites..it's dark, it doesn't sugarcoat the world we live in, it's masterfully told.
I watched this as a kid. It was the first time I was confronted with animal testing, this scene and the fact that this is still going on breaks my heart.
This movie MIGHT have scared me when I was a kid, but someone had already taken me to see Alien at the drive-in theatre with a bunch of my cousins when I was 5, so I was HARD CORE.
Thanks Don Bluth for making me afraid of syringes through my whole childhood and beyond. I'm still not over this nightmare and getting fuzzy feelings while donating blood.
When I was a child, the movie scared me. This scene was probably the last drop that allows the movie to be my MOST traumatizing film ever of my childhood.
That is probably one of the weaker parts of the whole movie. In the book, if I remember correctly, there was no magic. The rats learned a lot about human technology in a library after their escape and combined with their intelligence they build their society beneath the rose bush. I think the magical element in the movie is just a weak way of keeping many chapters from the book shorter or leaving them out completely. Nikodemus wasn't even this old wizard guy but rather a strong leader and he didn't die at the end of the book (it is implied that Justin did though).
I heard it's supposed to be a prequel and it's back in the hands of the studio that made the original. It would be interesting to see how the rats went on to create their world, and also give us more about Jonathan who's always built up as the hero of the rats.
Sporkmaker5150 .....I know right? That crazy fictitious world of fictitious creatures doing fictitious things. Suspension of disbelief. Suspension of disbelief.
Don Bluth is a genius! Crazy how he got the jump on Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles by like 5 years (that TV cartoon series didn't drop until 1987) with this G.M.A.(genetically modified animals) concept applying it to rodents way before kick-ass rat Splinter (a.k.a. Yoshi Hamato) jumped on the scene to take down his Japanese rival Shredder from their Foot Clan days. LOL! =)
Given the fact there is a lot of implied back-story regarding Jonathan, even the great owl acknowledges him, he must have been some well renowned hero in the animal kingdom around the farm. I'm just speculating here, but maybe you're touched because you are aware of this fact (but don't really think about it, perhaps) and this scene embodies the beginning of a pure, heroic heart from something horrible as the experimentations made upon him. I'd like to see a prequel detailing Jonathan's life.
I haven't seen this movie when I was a kid, but I have seen many animation cartoons of same type: teaching children to care about animals and environment, learning to cope with disappointments, to stand against greediness and taking a side of good, even if it costed more to you ...and things like that. The question is: is it so that there just really isn't "clever" children cartoons that handle darker things of life anymore? Or am I just too old and not knowing today's children cartoons well enough (thus them looking too superficial to me)?
***** Thank you for answer. Yea, well in my opinion it's good that movie industry ie. are concerned about what children will watch. But at some point, it might be so that the "censorship" becomes too strong and children get used to nothing but endless mindless "marshmallow parties". Also for me, the best films from my childhood were those which were at times also a little bit frightening. Those films that made one think about life and things. Yet, I think age limits really are important they shouldn't be passed by :)
Look at the rotating device at 0:09. I noticed these types of things in various media back in the 80s.. In 1987's Snow White, there's a magic mirror with a white face and a rotating mirror (spins to magically activate and show scenes upon request). Then there's creatures with multiple faces in NeverEnding Story 1&2 that are of the same style as the devices and other creatures. Is there a name to this type of style?
I just watched this first time since I was about 5. Back then I had only seen it dubbed in danish, but even then I didn't understand it as well as this time. I URGE everyone who saw this as a child to rewatch it. It was a total emotional rollercoaster.
This movie was epic. I loved it as a kid. I read the book and the movie while it had its differences was still amazing. I wish the sequel could have been as good :/
I wasn't born yet when this was released in theaters, but I'm super bummed that I never got to see this on VHS as a kid. This would have been perfect for me at 8 and 9 years old when I had a huge fetish for animated rodents.
Researchers implanted immature human brain cells in mouse pups, which then grew and replaced nearly half the mice's own cells. And thus, we have experimented by implanting human brain cells into baby mice to create animals with slightly higher reasoning and problem-solving skills. Of course the mice still aren't sapient, but it's a start. Once we start splicing our neurons... watch out. Likelihood is high of not being able to pass on any intelligence to children though (Just like Jonathans children weren't born super smart), so I suppose that's good or whatever.
jonathans four kids aren't smart but its likely they've inherited his other abilities like his longevity (if he hadn't of died before the story stared). but genetics are always a gamble. some things skip whole generations but others are constant. grandfather was stubborn as a mule, though she won't admit it my mother gets it from him and i get it to a lesser extent from her.
I wouldn't say this movie scarred me as a child, but rather instilled in me a deep sense of empathy for all living creatures, in a very strong and urgent way. Scriptwriters, movie producers and directors shouldn't underestimate the mind of a child.
Sonoko Sian yes
They shouldn't.
you are a good person
I saved a mouse at my work. 3 days later I got fired.
@@nicoblaytherealflamingo445 why?
This scene gave me nightmares back then. Many years I thought this movie was just a fever dream.
I too had lived many years thinking it was just a fucked up fever dream in the early 90's; turns out rats with glowing eyes was indeed a collective audio-visual stimulus that was fed to all of us all along
To be completely honest, Nicodemus is a very wise elderly and slender rat.
And another thing, he's a very old, very kind, good-hearted, caring, protective, noble and kind of worrisome creature.
Damn I gotta agree with you the but Ncodemus seems more impressive in the book than in the movie. In Don Bluth's version he seems more wise and elderly but in the book he's practically the same as the other rats except he's largest and is missing an eyeball lmao
Also he doesn't die in the book which is a huge plus ;;))
Gg
Treena Turtle What do you mean?
and then he dies
@@TheAllSeeingEye2468 Yeah. It’s because of that insolent fool Jenner.
This scene changed my whole life….
How?
@@alstjrqkr689
The theme is that the animals who are supposed to be stupid were treated badly by humans and became smarter and had deeper feelings; my house had many people with mental sickness so we were very afraid of people in places like NIMH that give us drugs and lock us up like the rats. Now I am grown up and I have two pet rats and I have many good times of love with friends. ❤️🙏
The shots of the needles always gives me a heart attack
yeah even more in 2021
It makes me feel queasy.
I hate needles. They freak me out.
@@qwertykeyboard5901 Same here. I used to have panic attacks whenever I had to get one when I was a kid.
Needles hurt. Alot 😣
*"They were put through the most unspeakable tortures...."*
Really highlights how cruel testing on animals really is.
Dam, back then as a child and now as an adult this is stil one of my most favourite scenes in cinematography until this day.
1:13
Um, yeah. About those needles.
Those needles would be _way_ too big to inject a rat with without impaling a major organ and killing it. It's pretty likely that this scene was made from the rats' perspective, therefore the needles only appeared that big to them.
For some reason the line “ One night I looked upon the words written on the side of the cage, and understood them”
it’s almost like the story of Muhammad being shown how to read by an angel
and he begins his story “in the beginning”
As well as persecuted race escaping imprisonment by a messiah character
I’m not a religious person by nature but I do love how the histories of these religions can inspire such compelling forms of story telling
I agree. It's so simple, and yet ominous because of the choice of words being said. He's explaining it to Mrs. Brisby in a way that she could understand, yet the gravitas is still there.
I may be a man of faith, so I may be biased, but it's comforting to know that there is still some appeal in how works of art can be derived from religion without resorting to preachiness. It makes sense too in a historical context because we as a species used to be really connected through shared religions in our earliest of histories. Even Homo Sapiens were said to have flowers decorating their caves or cavern walls of their deceased, indicating that they held some sort of spiritual belief.
These kinds of exchanges right here actually have me longing for the day of the old Internet lol
@@tylertigno5443 lol glad to hear it then! I love hearing people explain WHY a thing is good in great detail. I crave it every so often.
I'm reading the books. Second one gave me the feels and I was crying a lot.
I really like the books better than the movie
@@SJHFotoJane Conley ruining a great book by making mediocre sequels to it.
@@qwertykeyboard5901 I liked the sequels personally. Yes, I did like the original better, but I liked the 2 sequels a lot
That’s scary scene gives me the heart attack because of those short needles to those poor rats
This scene intrigued as a kid. I even shared this in elementary school, but everyone in class never understood it. They were indifferent. They just thought this movie was weird and didn't appreciate the animation effort. They wanted Shrek like 3d films. They wanted to laugh rather than think.
That's so terribly sad.😞
This movie has only Jeremy for comedic humor, but the true art in this is the dark gritty world the rats lived in and what they became by enduring it
I know so many like this book, but I really like the book better. The scientist at Nimh was NOT cruel to the rats and mice (in the book), and also there wasn't any mumbo-jumbo mystic quality. The fact that rats were made intelligent is wonderous enough!
I thought this movies was a fever dream, holy guacamole on tacos with beef from a holy cow with a halo.
As a child when I saw this scene, specifically 1:35 it scarred me realizing they were in pain and being tortured
I think in the book and movie they hint at trying to get electricity through means other than stealing from the farm house. I always sort of thought if they were so intelligent they may be smarter than even people do you think they were going to build a nuclear reactor of some sort?
This scene made me understand that other animals feel pain at the hands of humans.
Basicly I was born on the Year of the Rats
Oh the mirical
Man, I never realized how dark this movie was growing up. Why are so many older kids movies like this lol?
Don Bluth movies, WAY WAY better then todays
This movie was so important for me to see as a kid. Also I notice now how much all her kids resemble their father
For some reason I would always rewatch when the rat was getting bigger and fatter. Idk why. I liked it LOL
I love it! This is back when movies still had a soul.
NIMH is a real place. National Institute of Mental Health.
Both movies were released at the same time.
The Secret of NIMH (1982)
The Plague Dogs (1982)
I loved the movie when I first saw it in my early 20's. Now, now, 40 years later, I think about the lessons it taught, comparing it with AI.
Thanks
0:10 when your half asleep and get a message so open a laptop or phone at night
Such a good film
💜🤘
Are those the NIAID beagles?
I don’t think I realized, despite the dialogue, that the story was implying the rats were much stronger against the winds than mice, making our two boys beefcakes
Early desensitization! Yay!
The Secret of Wuhan
i know nothing aboutt his but it is so strange i need to understand it
Definitely nightmare fuel
2:55 so which one was nicodemus? jenner? justin?
Went from pluto to Goofy
I hate animal testing. Do you think they created this to show how bad it was?
Absolutely.
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Scientists don't keep rats in cages that are so easy to escape. Rats aren't stupid and when it comes to escape or infiltration, they are exceptionally clever. You don't need to be able to read to escape from those cages.
"My father was a musician during the battle of Stalingrad."
I'm not a big fan of the magic part tbh. I like how the original book only really pushes the suspension of disbelief for sentient rats.
Yikes! 1:16 - 1:23
I miss the good old days when people weren't so obsessed with keeping children blind to the world around them.
There are still dark themes to be found in animation today.
Like what?
thenewguyinred Over the Garden Wall, Steven Universe, Gravity Falls, Kubo and the Two Strings, The Little Prince, Studio Ghibli movies, Kung Fu Panda 2, etc.
But all of those pale in comparison to this level of story telling.
@ranakin, how many of those have you actually watched?
Thanks
This movie scarred me as a child. Definitely the injection part, it gave me nightmares for years and i still retain a fear of syringes.
Not me. It actually got me interested in the mysteries of the limitations of biology. Although, I felt terrible for the rats. Science is meant to help people, not satisfy sadistic appetites...
Me too!!
+Sera Sadly many Scientist in Humans History were Sadist(like all the Nazi Doctors Dr.Mengele and Co).
if conducted ethically, science can help everyone. including rats and mice :)
It'll be a fine day when we are able to grow pork chops in a lab.
Me too. I remember, I was really scared when I watched this part for the first time. My mom didn't like this movie, she said, it's not really for children. But she never forbade me to watch it, although she or my dad were always there when I wanted to watch this awesome movie. And I liked it, I like it even now. But now I understand it more than when I was a child.
This was a touching scene when she realises that her deceased husband was a hero
There is a full lentgth movie on the origin.Showing step buy step what happened to them from the street to jonathans death. I cant find itbut, i remember seeing it as a child. the origin parts of this movies are the key scenes in that movie.
"We had become intelligent..." and no other line in any other movie has ever made me shiver...
1:39 through 1:50 had terrified me as a kid. I was six years-old at that time, and had no idea that it was supposed to be a representation of the rats' DNA undergoing a brutal mutation. It had a nightmarish, almost lovecraftian quality that was truly scary.
AlexDraco same lol
yeah the 80s knew how to traumatize kids good!
The National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH).
+Mistah Young Oh, man you are right! It is definitely an indictment of the behavioral and medicalized model of the psyche.
+abc def I am sure they did a LOT of mean stuff to animals back in the day
And it's a real place.
yeah. they did. don't believe me? need proof? go watch plague dogs. educate yourself in the flaws of humanity.
Do you know who John B. Calhoun is.... look him up with nimh MIND BLOW
I spent a couple nights trying to process this movie when I was 3.
0:52 the rabbits here remind me of the Watership Down rabbits
maybe the same artist.
Brecconable Same, omg
El-ahrairah agrees with this post.
same artists
Speaking of creepy kids movies...
Boy, they left out a hugh part of the book, where the rats and mice actually are forced to learn reading. They didn't just 'magically' understood words, they went through a difficult and long learning process.
I want to read the book, but it was never translated to Hungarian. I know the movie isn't like the book, that's why I'd like to read it.
THEY MADE A MOVIE THAT TELLS ALL OF THAT STUFF. WE NEED TO FIND IT
The book is way different than the movie from what I've seen so far. I definitely prefer the book but that might be because I grew up with it
I never thought the rats and mice magically understood the words in the movie. There were many parts of what happened in the lab left out for simplicity’s sake. Nicodemus said that he looked at the words under his latch and understood them, but never said he didn’t understand other words taught to him before.
Thats true! They were taught to read and furthermore the scientists knew that they could read. But they underestimated their intelligence. And their escape took weeks of careful planning not just one day.
dude this gave me nightmares as a kid. its so intense for a kid movie.
It is intense but I always loved it so much, one of my favorite movies of all time and always was, I watched it the first time extremely early in my life and many times over and it's just soo good!
Dr. Calhoun spent the better part of a 40-year career working at the National Institute of Mental Health, or NIMH, conducting various experiments and studies on mice to see what would happen when their population grew too big for their environment.
His most famous experiment placed four pairs of mice into a mouse universe he called “Universe 25,” a 9-foot-by-9-foot metal pen with tunnels, nesting boxes, and food and water dispensers. The population doubled every couple of months, until it reached 620 mice on day 315. By day 560, there were 2,200 mice crammed into that 9x9 space-and things got pretty ugly.
see the rest here: mentalfloss.com/article/67202/scary-real-life-inspiration-mrs-frisby-and-rats-nimh
fascinating
And then they tried it out on humans.
Highrise.
There's a really good down the rabbit hole documentary on it!!
Yeh, I've seen it. It didn't dig deep enough for me.. so I did my own digging.
they just don't make shit like this anymore
+adj789 amen
My mom wouldn't buy us this movie when we were little because of this scene. I don't use animal tested products because it makes me sick to think that this happens to poor animals.
This movie show the terrible, cruel and especially unnecessary reality of animal testing
***** Humans are animals too. I said animal testing
Lord Passion Such arrogance and god complex. What did we do exactly to trascend "animals" as you said? Is it because we can make sophisticated tools? A lot of other species can make tools impossinle f or us to reproduce? Is it because we are intelligents? That is irrelevant. No matter how evolved humans will always be part of the animal kingdom. Having bigger brains doesn't give us the right to proclaim ourselves as gods and enslaving/destroying all the other species. Animal testing is completely useless in term of research and can't help any project least of all the nazi atomic nosense you quoted
Well, one alternative to animal testing is the use of human-derived cells, like those taken from tumors. Those can be grown and split infinite times, to be used for toxicity testing, etc. Like HeLa cells, for instance. Commonly used nowadays. There are many more. Also in use but more expensive and time-consuming (yet very valuable) are those derived from human stem cells like bone marrow, which can be differentiated into many different kinds of cells in the human body for more specific kinds of testing and experimentation. We need for these kinds of routes to become more cheaper and reproducible over time, in order to one day hopefully supersede the need for animal testing, which unfortunately is still in use.
Worth noting that many advances in VETERINARY, and not just medical, science have been achieved thanks to animal testing, allowing us to better care for animals as a whole. Food for thought.
hypocritically, no one would turn down health gained via testing on animals. its a necessary evil sometimes. it could probably less than what occurs, but its not unavoidable.
Those poor animals.
I hope their alright.
World OF Art Love Artwork Amen.
The sad truth is that they're probably not.
Hate to break it to you but those animals never existed to begin with.
I was born in 1983, a year after this was made.
This movie taught me what it means to be scared shitless.
Upon first watching this, I was just..caught off guard. this movie has to be one of my favorites..it's dark, it doesn't sugarcoat the world we live in, it's masterfully told.
I watched this as a kid. It was the first time I was confronted with animal testing, this scene and the fact that this is still going on breaks my heart.
This movie MIGHT have scared me when I was a kid, but someone had already taken me to see Alien at the drive-in theatre with a bunch of my cousins when I was 5, so I was HARD CORE.
Not my level of hardcore. I've seen movies at age 5 that would make a kid piss him self for months.
Thanks Don Bluth for making me afraid of syringes through my whole childhood and beyond. I'm still not over this nightmare and getting fuzzy feelings while donating blood.
When I was a child, the movie scared me. This scene was probably the last drop that allows the movie to be my MOST traumatizing film ever of my childhood.
It never explains where they got that magic amulet.
That is probably one of the weaker parts of the whole movie. In the book, if I remember correctly, there was no magic. The rats learned a lot about human technology in a library after their escape and combined with their intelligence they build their society beneath the rose bush.
I think the magical element in the movie is just a weak way of keeping many chapters from the book shorter or leaving them out completely. Nikodemus wasn't even this old wizard guy but rather a strong leader and he didn't die at the end of the book (it is implied that Justin did though).
I was feeling a bit nostalgic and found this clip. I also learned a CGI/live action reboot is in the works. (shakes head in disgust)
I heard it's supposed to be a prequel and it's back in the hands of the studio that made the original. It would be interesting to see how the rats went on to create their world, and also give us more about Jonathan who's always built up as the hero of the rats.
Somehow the scientists in the lab need printed instructions telling them how to open the cage latches?
+Sporkmaker5150 Not all cages work the same. It better thank having to ask.
Sporkmaker5150 they needed it incase Thurgood Jenkins showed up at this lab high as hell somehow.
Push/Pull signs nuff said
Sporkmaker5150 .....I know right? That crazy fictitious world of fictitious creatures doing fictitious things. Suspension of disbelief. Suspension of disbelief.
In the book is it implied the scientists wanted them to escape to prove their experiments successful.
As a child this part scared the shit outta me
This movie is brilliant. You don't see anything like this nowadays.
When Nicodemus shows Mrs. Brisby the history of NIMH, he made me quite scared, see the evolution of those poor rodents.
Frisby*
Frisby*
+SirGNeon she was called Frisby in the book , in this movie she is called Brisby !
This has to be one of the best movies ever
Beautiful! One of the most real and adult pieces of storytelling I have ever seen in a Movie, Especially an animated kids movie!
The books were good too.
1:03 - No matter how old I get, that scene always breaks my heart.
Don Bluth is a genius! Crazy how he got the jump on Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles by like 5 years (that TV cartoon series didn't drop until 1987) with this G.M.A.(genetically modified animals) concept applying it to rodents way before kick-ass rat Splinter (a.k.a. Yoshi Hamato) jumped on the scene to take down his Japanese rival Shredder from their Foot Clan days. LOL! =)
Given the fact there is a lot of implied back-story regarding Jonathan, even the great owl acknowledges him, he must have been some well renowned hero in the animal kingdom around the farm.
I'm just speculating here, but maybe you're touched because you are aware of this fact (but don't really think about it, perhaps) and this scene embodies the beginning of a pure, heroic heart from something horrible as the experimentations made upon him.
I'd like to see a prequel detailing Jonathan's life.
I had remembered seeing this when I was in 2nd or 1st grade. Didn't know what the movie was till now, still creeps me out to this day.
I haven't seen this movie when I was a kid, but I have seen many animation cartoons of same type: teaching children to care about animals and environment, learning to cope with disappointments, to stand against greediness and taking a side of good, even if it costed more to you ...and things like that. The question is: is it so that there just really isn't "clever" children cartoons that handle darker things of life anymore? Or am I just too old and not knowing today's children cartoons well enough (thus them looking too superficial to me)?
***** Thank you for answer. Yea, well in my opinion it's good that movie industry ie. are concerned about what children will watch. But at some point, it might be so that the "censorship" becomes too strong and children get used to nothing but endless mindless "marshmallow parties". Also for me, the best films from my childhood were those which were at times also a little bit frightening. Those films that made one think about life and things. Yet, I think age limits really are important they shouldn't be passed by :)
+XLBrand The plow got me too. The intensity of that scene is permanently burned into my memory. Glad for it, though.
Look at the rotating device at 0:09. I noticed these types of things in various media back in the 80s.. In 1987's Snow White, there's a magic mirror with a white face and a rotating mirror (spins to magically activate and show scenes upon request). Then there's creatures with multiple faces in NeverEnding Story 1&2 that are of the same style as the devices and other creatures. Is there a name to this type of style?
I hate getting shots!
I always will remember this.
I just watched this first time since I was about 5. Back then I had only seen it dubbed in danish, but even then I didn't understand it as well as this time.
I URGE everyone who saw this as a child to rewatch it. It was a total emotional rollercoaster.
The N.I.M.H. Lab!
I was born in 1980 and watched this movie a lot when I was little. It's still epic.
This is the coolest scene ever!
This movie was epic. I loved it as a kid. I read the book and the movie while it had its differences was still amazing. I wish the sequel could have been as good :/
I wish they made a spinoff of the origins of NIMH.
Such a DOPE slept on movie... Classic shit right here brings back memories!!!
Arise Skaven Empire!
MummRaGoa Praised be the Horned Rat
+MummRaGoa fuck yaa!
@@Seneca_zero Nikodemus would have nothing to do with that demon!
I wasn't born yet when this was released in theaters, but I'm super bummed that I never got to see this on VHS as a kid. This would have been perfect for me at 8 and 9 years old when I had a huge fetish for animated rodents.
This movie scared me as a kid ....I saw it on tv 2 days ago and realized what a great story it is
The Shots give me a Heart Attack 1:15
Riley Andersen Why do the shots give you a heart attack?
+Will Robinson He's speaking metaphorically, saying the scene frightened him.
Mateo vazquez An understandable choice of words.
Yeah, the hypos being jabbed into the animals was pretty damn scary, GREAT use of sound!
How can people be so inhumane, people like that deserve the treatment they were giving to those defenseless animals.
I cant wait for the Live Adaptation of this story
One of the best movies ever made!
Researchers implanted immature human brain cells in mouse pups, which then grew and replaced nearly half the mice's own cells. And thus, we have experimented by implanting human brain cells into baby mice to create animals with slightly higher reasoning and problem-solving skills. Of course the mice still aren't sapient, but it's a start. Once we start splicing our neurons... watch out. Likelihood is high of not being able to pass on any intelligence to children though (Just like Jonathans children weren't born super smart), so I suppose that's good or whatever.
jonathans four kids aren't smart but its likely they've inherited his other abilities like his longevity (if he hadn't of died before the story stared). but genetics are always a gamble. some things skip whole generations but others are constant. grandfather was stubborn as a mule, though she won't admit it my mother gets it from him and i get it to a lesser extent from her.
stubborn is not a genetic trait, it is a social one. but the rest makes sense.
I'm NOT worthless! And I DON'T have fleas!
Dakln1 That’s what Aladdin said in the 1st film.
That was the scariest scene in the whole movie for me.