Plato | Phaedrus - Full audiobook with accompanying text (AudioEbook)
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Listened to this one on another bike ride, the best 30 miles of me life :) I would give anything to see Socrates having a dialogue with Jesus and Plato having a dialogue with Paul
There is a book very like this by Pierre Grimes. Socrates and Jesus discuss Plato and Paul
I love listening to this while I follow along in the book, it's the best thing there is to help a dyslexic
That's great Alex! I'm glad it helps you with your reading. 👍
Me too! Unfortunately I go to a classical liberal arts school (St. Johns) and so many of our texts don’t have this. It really sucks because this is a school where the way dyslexics or other learning disabilities thrive. You have a lot of what our freshmen read so I’ll definitely be passing this along to as many incoming freshman as I can. Could you possibly direct me to other channels that do this? Especially ones with classical works.
@@averylehr_ I go on the model. If the authors dead for awhile their book is probably in the public domain. So usually you can just look up the classical book and their is always an audiobook. Otherwise LibiVox recording does a lot of classical audiobooks, to answer you directly
I can't imagine a conversation like this happening today. I'll be the forst to say can y'all get to point already and shut the heck up?! 😂 But right now, I'm admiring what im hearing. Music to my ears.
2:10:51 the story of Theuth discovering writing, then of Thamus explaining the limits of writing, is truly important to understand why Socrates never wrote anything, and why today’s “desk philosophers” have almost no character in the way Socrates did.
such a great translation, much better than any one in german ive ever read
Thank you so much for uploading this! Following your voice with the script on the screen made it easy to finish in one go so I can now add 'Phaedrus' to the books I've 'read' :-)
You are welcome! That's good going to get through a Platonic dialogue in one sitting. 👍
Excellent work!!
Thanks. Happy that you enjoyed the dialogue 😀
Just finished listening, really useful to have the text, it’s rare on CZcams audiobooks, thank you so much
You are very welcome. It’s the best way to take in information. You may be interested in our study of the Republic over on my other channel. You can find it here 🙏
czcams.com/channels/9L6KBc0AKe2mL5Yli0AtyQ.html
Brilliant and very helpful!
Glad it was helpful! 🙏
Really enjoyed this reading, thank you very much.
You are welcome! Glad you enjoyed it 🙏
Thank you for making this
You are welcome! 🙏
Excellent again. Thanks a bunch.
A pleasure 👍
Plato’s 4 divine Madnesses as gifts. From Apollo we get prophecy, from muses we get poetry, from Aphrodite we gain love and from Dionysus- the god of wine and theater we obtain mystic rites and relief from present hand ship.
Well said, Alexandra! I like it 👍
Thank you so so much again.🎉🎉🎉
You are welcome brother! Anyone who appreciates Plato I have a lot of time for. Are you studying for something, or just reading for pleasure?
@@lewiskirk8289 Yes. I did my first degree in philosophy long ago and I intend to go further on it. Just trying to brush up my rusted philosophy before I proceed.
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Could someone explain to me what the "boy" means. At first it seems that the "boy" is simply another way of saying "beloved" or the "object of love." But then Socrates seems to shift the meaning of the boy to it being a sort of "celestial object of love" from what I can tell, a "heavenly beloved." Does anyone else get that from the text, I just want to make sure that is what is meant.
Whatever moves is a soul
Natural union of wind and their charioteer that are all good, from good stock
While everyone else is a mixture
Without drivers in charge of a pair of horses
1 horse is beautiful the other is the opposite thus chariot driving is a painful difficult business
Now I should tell you
Why living things are both mortal & immortal
God is an immortal living thing that has a body & a soul
Bound together by nature all time we must.. Please the Gods & speak accordingly
Causality:
Let us turn to what causes the shedding of the wings
What causes
What area them fall away from a soul, it is something of this sort
Winds have power to lift up heavy things (by their nature) raise them aloft, where the Gods dwell
They are akin to the divine which has beauty wisdom, goodness & everything nourish the souls's wing which grow best, in their presence
But fairness & uglyness
Makes the wing shrink & disappear
Zeus great commander of heaven drived his "wing chariot" first in procession looking after everything putting everything in order putting everything in order
Most extreme toil a soul will face
When a soul reached the top they move outward & take their stand on the high reach of heaven
Where it's circular motion carries them around, as they stand
While they gaze upon what is outside heaven
The place beyond heaven none of our earthly poets ever sung
Risk is it may be you see, I must attempt to speak the truth, especially since the truth is my subjective
What is in this place without color shape, solidity. being really is what it is, the subject of all true knowledge visible only to intelligence-the soul steersman
Godsmind nourished by intelligence & pure knowledge any soul take it what is appropriate to it
Delighted at last to be seen what is real & watching what is true
Feeding on all
We have driving need to gaze into the Gpd by memory inspired by him
A doctrine
Adopt his customs practices
Train him follow God path
Show no envy, lack of generosity
Divide each soul into 3 2 into horses
1 to a charioteer
Right is well framed well jointed with higher neck, regal nose his clear is white his eyes is black he's a lover of honor, modesty self control
"A companion to true glory Needs no Whip"
guided by verbal command
Other horses is crooked great jumble of limbs, with a short bull neck hug nose black skin, bloodshot nose, white eyes
companion to wild boasts & indecency
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Shaggy around the ears
Deaf as a post
Just as barely horse whip, & Gold combined
When charioteer looks at eyes of love, entire soul is suffused with a sense of warmth
Starts to fill with tingles,.. & of Desire
As for the horses, the one obedient to charioteer is controlled by a sense of shame (prevents itself from jumping on the boy
The other one no longer responds to the whip or the gold of charioteer
It leaps violently forward does everything to aggravate its
The lovers
1:04:18
At death they are winless, when they leave the body
But their wings are burst into sprout, so the prize they have won from the madness of love is cosiderable
Because they've begun a sacred journey in lower heaven may not (by law) be sent into darkness into the earth -their lives are bright & happy (as they travel together)
Thanks to their love they'll grow wings(together) when the time comes
1:21:13 these the rewards from lovers friendship
They are as great as divine gifts should be
On the other hand a non lovers companionship is diluted by human self-control: all it pays is cheap human dividends
(& though the slavish attitude it engenders, in a friend's soul (WoW)
Is widely praised as a virtue, it Tosses the soul around, for 9,000 years (on the earth)
& leads it mindless beneath it
This is theost beautiful palan Ode, we could offer as payment for our debt
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Thank you for this video!! Helps me a lot while reading :)
You're welcome! 🙏
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On a more serious note, as a person who is easily startled by loud sounds, (in other words, a ligyrophobe), I had to track down if the "musical people of Liguria" made awful noises. Turns out my phobia's name comes from the Greek "Ligyro," which means "sharp" in an acoustic sense. This region of the Italian peninsula, Liguria, has nothing to do with the fear of sudden loud noises.
How very interesting! Thanks for sharing. 👍
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Thank you 🙏🏿
You are very welcome 🙏
What translation is this? I'd like to follow in order to have the reference numbers.
It’s from the Hackett publishing edition. Translated by Alexander Nehamas and Paul Woodruff I think.
@@lewiskirk8289 Just curious, what is the copyright situation w/ this video?
whose translation is this? thx!
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Gaydrus
Wait... is Phaedrus the model for Cotton Eyed Joe?
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