Plato | Symposium - Full audiobook with accompanying text (AudioEbook)

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Komentáře • 139

  • @CleverPsuedonym1
    @CleverPsuedonym1 Před 3 lety +185

    I’m getting my undergrad in philosophy and I have ADHD. This was very helpful. Naturally the dialogues are easier to read than other texts in general, but having this audio saved me a lot of time and helped me focus.

    • @lewiskirk8289
      @lewiskirk8289  Před 3 lety +25

      Thats awesome Clayton! I find having the audio and text together is the best and most intense way of focussing on the dialogues. Its super clear if you have lost attention and you can rewind and go back a bit. Happy to hear that this had helped you in your studies. :)

    • @walterkerr1194
      @walterkerr1194 Před 3 lety +17

      glad to see im not the only ADHDer that simply cant stand to read a book on its own! :D

    • @alexandercle
      @alexandercle Před 2 lety

      Clayton, if you can read and understand Plato, even you have to read 100 times, you don't have ADHD. Majority of people can't understand Plato in depth. Those are much worse than ADHD problem. Paideia Society

    • @redmensch101
      @redmensch101 Před 2 lety +3

      I was doing my undergrad in Philosophy and I too suffer from ADHD, but after a semester in it, I decided to switch my major to Psychology and my minor to Philosophy.

    • @caylynmillard
      @caylynmillard Před rokem

      Shut up

  • @wac2131
    @wac2131 Před 7 měsíci +24

    0:05 Introductory Dialogue
    15:25 The Speech of Phaedrus
    21:12 The Speech of Pausanias
    37:27 The Speech of Eryximachus
    47:36 The Speech of Aristophanes
    1:03:09 The Speech of Agathon
    1:15:48 Socrates Questions Agathon
    1:21:49 Diotima Questions Socrates
    1:26:21 The Speech of Diotima
    1:51:43 Alcibiades' Entrance
    1:59:59 The Speech of Alcibiades
    2:20:53 Final Dialogue

  • @jameseldridge3445
    @jameseldridge3445 Před 8 měsíci +14

    1:55 Setting of Socrates' dialogue on love
    3:08 Apollodorus throwing shade on businessmen
    15:25 Phaedrus initial speech about love: What is love? (Baby don't hurt me)
    17:22 Phaedrus explains why a city/army of men who love one another would be the most powerful (they share shame/pride in one another)
    21:20 Phaedrus states that love gets the highest honor
    22:28 Common vs Heavenly love-- everything is either noble or shameful (including love). Depends on how it is performed
    26:38 Athens and Sparta have simple understandings of the complex idea of love. Elis and Boeotia are inarticulate and lust-driven.
    Iona and the Persian Empire ban Love, Sport, and Philosophy bc they are tyrannical states. This weakens the citizens (27:47)
    31:12 Love is not inherently good/bad but depends solely on the behavior in its reaction
    33:29 Honorable love is the only acceptable way of love, for the sake of wisdom and virtue
    37:33 Eryximachus takes Aristophanes’ turn bc he has the hiccups lol
    38:00 According to Eryximachus’ study of science, love is a diety that occurs in all forms of life, including plants and the Gods. Not just humans.
    43:34 Synopsis of Eryximachus' speech: Love is the harmony from balancing good and bad, or opposites. Similar to yin and yang.
    48:25 Aristophanes begins his speech, explaining that there was a 3rd gender, which was a combo of male and female (androgynous)
    53:03 According to Aristophanes, humans reproduce with one another because our love derives from us wanting to be in our natural state, combined together. The womb, genitals, navel, etc are all reminders of our separation which was a punishment by Zeus
    58:06 Love is our pursuit to be whole/complete with someone else
    1:03:20 Agathon begins his speech
    1:06:25 Love is the youngest/most energetic of the Gods. It also is the most powerful, over-powering pleasures and passions, which makes it moderate
    1:11:00 Agathon views love like Christians view Jesus, a "savior". Source of all positive and drains negativity
    1:20:02 Socrates proves that love can't always be good and beautiful because it is what it desires
    1:21:50 Socrates begins his speech which is one he heard from Diotima
    1:23:00 Philosopher's mean
    1:29:02 Explanation of the lovers of wisdom*
    1:33:04 According to Diotima- Love is the desire to possess anything good. Not just a companion but sport, philosophy, etc
    1:36:52 Love is eternal. It is the reproduction (pregnancy) of desiring beautiful/good. This is the immortality of mortal things
    1:41:58 *Important monologue* Diotima explains the differences of pregnancy in body vs. soul
    1:52:50 The correct way to show up to a party 😂
    2:00:00 Alcibiades begins his speech- a praise (and critique) of Socrates

  • @garethsmith3036
    @garethsmith3036 Před rokem +16

    I teared up at Alcibiades speech. He's just so hapless and genuine. Like everybody else gives these ordered, almost rehearsed orations (to the point where their overly pure ideals of love almost seem fake) then he brashly tumbles in and spills his guts about how much pain he's in because Socrates doesn't love him back. Its just kinda moving. Like it is beautiful, sad and funny.

  • @letihernandez1674
    @letihernandez1674 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Wow, just discovered this, I’m blown away. No wonder these are classics.

    • @lewiskirk8289
      @lewiskirk8289  Před 3 měsíci +2

      Enjoy working your way through all of the dialogues on the channel in the Plato playlist 👍

  • @alexandercle
    @alexandercle Před 2 lety +10

    Many thanks to Mr. Lewis Kirt for posting these Plato's classical Dialogue. This is a treasure of teaching far beyond than many could imagine, a lifetime study and training for humanity and many others. Paideia Society

  • @kookiben1080
    @kookiben1080 Před 2 lety +8

    I can feel how passionate you are as you read. Thank you for your devotion

    • @lewiskirk8289
      @lewiskirk8289  Před 2 lety +3

      You’re welcome. I’m glad it comes through. 😀

  • @jameseldridge3445
    @jameseldridge3445 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Starting this book 11/28/23 6:36 PM EST
    Finished! 12/19/23 10:35 PM EST

  • @samkaj4529
    @samkaj4529 Před 2 lety +2

    starting my For the love of wisdom class next week and listening to this is going to be gruesome! Taking the clas because I have to....keep me in yor prayers!

  • @prianmargondale7062
    @prianmargondale7062 Před rokem +4

    I can’t help being a fan of the Alexander and Paul translation, and I can’t help but commend your reading of my most favorite plato. Thank you

  • @afghanpresstv
    @afghanpresstv Před 2 lety +7

    Beautifully read. Thank you Mr. Kirk!

    • @lewiskirk8289
      @lewiskirk8289  Před 2 lety +4

      You are most welcome. Just to let you know, we will begin a study of Plato’s Republic over on my other channel Book Club today. Here is the link:
      czcams.com/channels/9L6KBc0AKe2mL5Yli0AtyQ.html

  • @Oscuros
    @Oscuros Před 3 lety +8

    I remember going to school in West London with kids who would speak weLL like that with the double L sounds. It's nice to hear local accents sometimes.

    • @lewiskirk8289
      @lewiskirk8289  Před 3 lety +2

      Where abouts in West London? I grew up in North West London. A place called Harrow, or Arra to speak in the local dialect. 😉

  • @allie4273
    @allie4273 Před 11 měsíci +2

    You just saved me on assignment I had to do thank you omg I was last minute on my assignment and didn’t have the book thank you 🙏🏻

    • @lewiskirk8289
      @lewiskirk8289  Před 11 měsíci +1

      You are welcome. Happy to help.
      Good luck with your philosophy studies, and I’m always here if you want to discuss. 🙏

  • @sreenantibanerjee3450
    @sreenantibanerjee3450 Před 4 lety +29

    This is excellent. I am a PhD student in London, working on Plato at the moment, and finding these very useful. Thank you. Do you plan on recording the Laches and Alcibiades Part II with accompanying texts as well? It will be very helpful.

    • @lewiskirk8289
      @lewiskirk8289  Před 4 lety +8

      Hey, happy to hear that you are finding the Platonic dialogues helpful! I do plan to get round to all of the dialogues at some stage. Thanks for the comment, and good luck in your studies!

  • @lurgy5177
    @lurgy5177 Před 3 lety +6

    God bless you for making this!
    Thanks!!

    • @lewiskirk8289
      @lewiskirk8289  Před 3 lety +2

      God bless you for watching it! You're very welcome. 🙏

  • @Tobela100
    @Tobela100 Před měsícem +2

    ❤ This was amazing. Thank you

  • @brazilnuthkg
    @brazilnuthkg Před 3 lety +4

    I really enjoyed your reading, thank you for making this video :) Keep it up!

    • @lewiskirk8289
      @lewiskirk8289  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks Christine. Happy to hear that you enjoyed it! 🙏

  • @Sura.bbyyyy
    @Sura.bbyyyy Před 3 lety +5

    This is my favorite nightly listen! 🙏🏼 ty

  • @williammosley8026
    @williammosley8026 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Jesus! this was good 😉 thank you

    • @lewiskirk8289
      @lewiskirk8289  Před 2 měsíci +1

      You're very welcome! Glad you enjoyed it! 🙏

  • @augustineopara2887
    @augustineopara2887 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Wow Symposium is beautiful. Thank you so so much my brother. 🎉🎉🎉

  • @zhengyangwu8289
    @zhengyangwu8289 Před 2 lety +1

    Very thankful for the audiobook with text! My English is weak so this is super helpful.

    • @lewiskirk8289
      @lewiskirk8289  Před 2 lety +1

      Your welcome. I feel that even for people with English as a first language, having the audio and text together is the best way to take in the information.

  • @olavsierotvr4282
    @olavsierotvr4282 Před 4 lety +16

    Thank you so much for making this!

    • @lewiskirk8289
      @lewiskirk8289  Před 4 lety +2

      You're welcome!
      If you enjoyed the Symposium then be sure to check out the Platonic Dialogue playlist to find many more of Plato's works!

  • @sharonemoji
    @sharonemoji Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you very much :) well read and nice voice

  • @chrisxour1101
    @chrisxour1101 Před 2 lety +1

    thank you soooo much friend lewis!

  • @AndrewCFisherProductions
    @AndrewCFisherProductions Před 3 lety +6

    This is very well read.

  • @showponyexpressify
    @showponyexpressify Před měsícem +1

    Great reading... Thanks Brother 👌👌

    • @lewiskirk8289
      @lewiskirk8289  Před měsícem +1

      It’s my pleasure, you are welcome 🙏

  • @PhosphorusThoth
    @PhosphorusThoth Před 4 lety +19

    Thank you for making these. I listened to your theaetetus, sophist and statesman. I'm going back through several of Plato's works and audio with text is great. how many of these are you planing on making? are you planing on doing Parmenides?

    • @lewiskirk8289
      @lewiskirk8289  Před 4 lety +6

      I haven't tackled the Parmenides myself yet, and will be leaving that till last, but yes, I will be doing more. Philebus is coming next. I'm really glad you find them valuable. Thanks for letting me know.

  • @aslan8463
    @aslan8463 Před 3 lety +1

    ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️✨🎄Good job
    Thank you so much

  • @ninabouche9657
    @ninabouche9657 Před 10 měsíci +2

    1:03:16 Agathon's Speech time marker

  • @Lyp380
    @Lyp380 Před 3 lety +5

    1:15:27

  • @TTTT-xc5vm
    @TTTT-xc5vm Před rokem +2

    #180degreetheseries brought me here😊 #เส้นลองจิจูดที่180องศาลากผ่านเรา such a real masterpiece

  • @coldflame999
    @coldflame999 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Thank you

  • @blacksky492
    @blacksky492 Před 2 lety +2

    Very good reading, what is you personal favorite Plato dialogues? I would like to read it next

    • @lewiskirk8289
      @lewiskirk8289  Před 2 lety +2

      I would say the Phaedo. Glad you are enjoying the Platonic Dialogues 😀👍

  • @tiffanyrutledge3174
    @tiffanyrutledge3174 Před rokem +1

    1:26:22 The Speech of Diotima

  • @addy4124
    @addy4124 Před 3 lety +1

    Auidomark - 1:26:22

  • @baah_sf
    @baah_sf Před 3 měsíci +1

    Really nice video! Could you maybe re-upload the pdf of this translation?

    • @lewiskirk8289
      @lewiskirk8289  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Send me an email and I will forward it on to you 👍

  • @altongreear6529
    @altongreear6529 Před rokem +1

    I have autism and this helps me emote during class

  • @jeffreylitianjun7314
    @jeffreylitianjun7314 Před 3 lety +3

    25:25 to move quickly to someone else. As a matter of fact 181d

    • @jeffreylitianjun7314
      @jeffreylitianjun7314 Před 3 lety +1

      33:32 that is subjugation for the sake of virtue 184c
      I’m just making bookmarks to help me finish reading the book. I’m learning this passage in my university.
      Thank you for your great recital.
      Gracias, merci, adios.

    • @jeffreylitianjun7314
      @jeffreylitianjun7314 Před 3 lety +1

      34:43 Only in this case 184e

    • @jeffreylitianjun7314
      @jeffreylitianjun7314 Před 3 lety +1

      41:00 Indeed, this may have been just what Heraclitus had in mind, though his mode of expression certainly leaves much to be desired 187a p325

  • @e.n.3637
    @e.n.3637 Před rokem +1

    27:03 beginning of page 12

  • @tiffanyrutledge3174
    @tiffanyrutledge3174 Před rokem

    1:15:54 Socrates Questions Agathon

  • @natrinsbarrow
    @natrinsbarrow Před 3 lety +3

    Which translation are you reading from?

    • @lewiskirk8289
      @lewiskirk8289  Před 3 lety +2

      It's the Hackett complete works translation.

    • @oonaeisenstadt
      @oonaeisenstadt Před 3 lety +1

      The Hackett Symposium is translated by Nehamas and Woodruff. It's a lively translation. And this is an excellent reading.

    • @lewiskirk8289
      @lewiskirk8289  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it! 🙏

  • @slitheringsoundcat7996
    @slitheringsoundcat7996 Před 4 lety +1

    1:20:00

  • @sieltan5618
    @sieltan5618 Před rokem +4

    Man. I knew these guys were gay but I was not prepared for just how gay.

  • @kayeeelelwhy
    @kayeeelelwhy Před 8 měsíci +1

    48:25 Aristophanes speech

  • @lajacobs2921
    @lajacobs2921 Před 3 lety +2

    11:40

  • @tiffanyrutledge3174
    @tiffanyrutledge3174 Před rokem

    1:21:52 Diotima Questions Socrates

  • @1krazyking
    @1krazyking Před 3 lety +2

    How many pages is this book? I feel like i couldn’t read this in 24hrs because thats what it feels like when I try to read a 100 pages

    • @lewiskirk8289
      @lewiskirk8289  Před 3 lety +4

      There are 49 pages in the dialogue Symposium. But the text is very small and compacted. It's quite a long dialogue, so maybe you could try breaking down into manageable chunks, say 30/40 minutes.

    • @1krazyking
      @1krazyking Před 3 lety +1

      @@lewiskirk8289 thankyou!

    • @lewiskirk8289
      @lewiskirk8289  Před 3 lety +2

      You're welcome! 👍

  • @mashyposhy
    @mashyposhy Před 2 lety +1

    37:34

  • @pintudesai131
    @pintudesai131 Před 2 lety +1

    37:33

  • @LittleMew133
    @LittleMew133 Před rokem +1

    40:00

  • @marareadsnchannels6885
    @marareadsnchannels6885 Před 3 lety +2

    Um i was just looking for info on the androgynous race. Is there something some treasure here?

  • @kkg9181
    @kkg9181 Před 2 lety +1

    38.05

  • @user-js8ud3ub9p
    @user-js8ud3ub9p Před 3 lety +2

    25:19

    • @user-js8ud3ub9p
      @user-js8ud3ub9p Před 3 lety +2

      thanks for hearting my timestamp :)

    • @lewiskirk8289
      @lewiskirk8289  Před 3 lety +2

      Anyone that hearts Plato, has a place in my heart. 🙏

  • @abdullahz8647
    @abdullahz8647 Před 2 lety +1

    I want to listen to this but this is so boring. How do people read these books? Any tips?

    • @lewiskirk8289
      @lewiskirk8289  Před 2 lety +3

      Go slow and be consistent. It’s not fun, or entertaining. See it like going to the gym for your mind.

  • @kylerocco7467
    @kylerocco7467 Před 7 měsíci

    This is my first time listening to this, it is reqllt beautiful. Also i did not realize that the ancients had such devoloped thoughts on lgbtq issues.

  • @AmbloGameplay
    @AmbloGameplay Před 3 lety +1

    18:15

  • @dimitricraft8906
    @dimitricraft8906 Před 3 lety +6

    Someone please tell me if I heard this wrong but..... did this man just tell everyone that loving young boys (Children) is ok? 🤨😟 umm... no.

    • @petermorse5559
      @petermorse5559 Před 3 lety

      You should check out the bock saga...you are in for quite the shock if you ever leave the US.....there is a ton of shit about young boys in here, think elecromagnetically.....think of young or fresh as potent and pure. A literal interpretation sells it short.

    • @1Batman1
      @1Batman1 Před 3 lety

      Not all of platos works are authentic. There’s some corruption and people have added stuff in that isn’t authentic and the word of Socrates. It’s like any document that over 2000 years old. It’s not entirely authentic most of is but they’re a defiantly some corruption.

    • @seanclark9891
      @seanclark9891 Před 3 lety +4

      Athenians had a different conception of love, and homosexuality in the way that it is currently conceived (being an identity)would not be socially acceptable. They were certainly pederasts, but to them it was, in addition to a sexual relationship, a way of tutoring a young man, as the older man took the boy under his wing and trained him in the various duties and arts of civic duty and warfare. As far as historical accounts go this wasn't apparently a universal thing, but a phenomenon that was mainly prolific in Athens. Though in time, considering that Athens was a central focal point of Greek culture, the practice spread.

  • @ashtangaxashtangapranayama8526
    @ashtangaxashtangapranayama8526 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Man gahhh damn 🙄

  • @zelarommoralez
    @zelarommoralez Před 5 měsíci +1

    THIS SUUUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKSSSS

  • @taylormensah8746
    @taylormensah8746 Před 3 lety +1

    æ

  • @charleshowie2074
    @charleshowie2074 Před rokem +6

    Kinda gay...

  • @jaydee3020
    @jaydee3020 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Sorry but Phaedrus was a batty man. 😂 talking bout himself

  • @elmeramuro
    @elmeramuro Před 3 lety +1

    anyone got a discord invite

  • @jrb4935
    @jrb4935 Před rokem +4

    Why do they always go on about pederasts and gayness?

  • @guilhermeterra1052
    @guilhermeterra1052 Před 3 lety +5

    1:21:50

  • @williamv.v.3706
    @williamv.v.3706 Před 10 měsíci +1

    1:40:00

  • @-loveless-
    @-loveless- Před 2 lety +2

    1:21:50

  • @stefanos1602
    @stefanos1602 Před 3 lety +1

    1:06:40

  • @zakkiyasyed4662
    @zakkiyasyed4662 Před 3 lety +1

    1:55:09

  • @ashutoshsharma2298
    @ashutoshsharma2298 Před 3 lety +2

    37:33

  • @Patriots128387
    @Patriots128387 Před 3 lety +2

    37:33

  • @Oscar_Mendez
    @Oscar_Mendez Před 2 lety +1

    37:32

  • @anacjb422
    @anacjb422 Před 3 lety +1

    36:18