G923 vs T300RS GT - Mainstream SHOWDOWN, which is BETTER?
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0:00 - Intro
1:28 - Features, design, and build quality
2:47 - Switchable wheels for T300RS GT
4:05 - Manual h-shifter add-ons
4:45 - Installation
5:25 - Pedals06:00 - Connections
7:44 - What drives them
8:24 - Force feedback and usage
9:20 - Loudness
12:45 - Software utility
13:11 - Price, conclusion
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How much does the t300 rs gt package weigh?
@@akeemwisdom5742 It's a little over 10 kg
118Shadow118 thanks
Please tell me how long you used your logitech shifter? You say it withstood the test of time - so Im wondering how gentle I should be with mine! TY in advance!
End of video....means G29 would be good for its value? $350 g29 vs $475 300rsgt at my place
1:23 The wheels I want.
0:00 Wheels I can afford.
Bro 😂
ur really broke bro :D
9:20 This loudness part is golden... everybody talks about it, nobody shows it... thank you!
ironic its at 9:20
Just finished a night with new T300RS GT. Ten times better feedback communication than my BMW 340.
I'm thrilled.
B58 makes up for the numb steering feel lol
Problems with overheating?
do u like it so far ?
Ur not lying them shits handle like toys 😂😂
Ugh i wish someone with a 340 would let me drive it. All I’ve driven fwd car and the most sportiest car I’ve driven was a TLX with sh awd :(
Thank you ! Finally a review which demonstrates the loudness.
The TH8A shifter has a port on the side of the wheel, inside there is a screw. If you tighten it, it increases the resistence of the shifter. It should state it in the TH8A manual that comes in the box.
The g923 is the g27 with a Driving Force GT Button layout. Great wheel but only if it was 100 € cheaper. My T300 is old now but still a blast to use.
So which do you recommend if money isn't an issue?
@@boredfive3001 any direct drive wheel on the market
@@Alexandru017 I only have 400 dollars. What's the most realistic best experience I can get. I'll buy the shifter separate.
@@boredfive3001 thurstmaster sure
@@user-gy7tt9dw4x Can you give me an exact model?
if only the steering wheel market was bigger...
fanatec needs competition ngl
@@sleempy6343 fanatec needs to lower their fuckin prices
@@d3admaub938 completely overpriced. but they can do it... as same it is made from apple ;)
just get a fanatec, with the universal hub. you can add any aftermarket steering wheel to it from big trucker wheel to little drifting ones.
@@d3admaub938 Damm right! Like who TF do they think they are?!?
Thanks for saving me time to find a competent review, this is the first one I’ve seen.
Thanks for the comparison. You covered everything there is to know in detail and explained the differences clearly. Exactly what a review should be like. Definitely going to subscribe to your channel!
Glad it was helpful!
I loved your review. Couldn't help but notice the massive input lag though.
Thanks! IRL it's not there, the shutter speed of the camera and refresh rate make it seem like it's not so when recorded like this
@@MattsPaddock ow yeah, maybe that's why I see it a lot. much appreciated you clarified. thanks.
One which wheel?
I am having trouble using a wheel now after using a XBOX controller for 2 years, took me a month to figure out it was the input lag, imagine playing a shooter game with that lag. I guess we cant complain about the budget wheel input lag, we just have to adapt.
@@positivemasculinity42 maybe on xbox but ive never heard of wheels having input lag
“Let’s see which one deserves your hard earned money”
My first wheel was the g29 but it was just horrible!
Felt nothing like driving a real car, was waaay to loud, and just overall bad, but for the price and as a starter wheel its kinda good but you shouldn’t keep that wheel as your main wheel. I just bought my t300rs gt and it should be here in a few hours, ill give use an update when i try it
@@cranberryjuice.3635 So, you got it? What are your thoughts?
@@cranberryjuice.3635 how was it?
My fav animal was axolotl years before Minecraft hbu?
@@dbbmpx2882 never even knew it existed
Really helpful! Thanks!
Thanks mate, just bought a t300
The G923 sounds much louder than the T300RS in your comparison. With multiple people sharing my home, I would have to go w/ the quieter one. I just price checked them at a major US retailer site and the T300RS is about 20% more $, which sounds far. Thank you!
just ordered the thrustmaster... my first gaming wheel setup, now off to the junkyard to pick-a-part an actual car seat for my planned setup!
If you can find a busted Ford Focus ST, you can snag yourself a Recaro seat. Even the fabric 'base model' ST seats are Recaro's. Being the owner of a 16' ST, I can say that they are super comfy and would make badass sim rig seats. I've half thought about pulling out my passenger seat and just making anyone ride in the back. There would be tons of leg room for them after that, at least!
@@justinstrange5945 Same here, lol, I been Sim racing for the last 2 years on a PC, The Logitech was stopping me from getting faster, The T300 proved last night that I can be faster using the T300 over the Logitech, People say bull a High end Steering wheel won't make you faster, Bull, I am already faster just using the T300 for 2-3 hours, lol, I can only imagine if I had High end pedals, lol, I use Sim racing as a way of dealing with Mental health, CPTSD, Sim racing helps me forget the noises outside that seems to make me panic sometimes, I don't wish CPTSD on anybody, But Sim Racing have helped me stay away from pills, But yeah I needs to go to the scrap yard myself next week, 15-25 pounds, Next Level 360 pounds, lol, My driving position has changed, So what seat did you end up getting if you don't mind letting me know, But yeah I Sim Race in VR on AMS 2 coz AMS 2 does VR the best IMHO, So a fancy wheel isn;t my thing, lol, The Thrustmaster is a top wheel considering it is from a different era, lol, Yeah what seat did you get after?.....
Happy Sim racing....
Having owned all Logitech versions from the wingman to the g29 I'm ready to upgrade and the T300 price and performance is attractive. Based on my experience I've had to assess my options on the possibility of being able to purchase parts for repairs.
did you upgrade and was it worth it? if i upgrade i want it to feel like a big difference to make it worth it. i could either upgrade to the t300rs gt for about $950nzd including a 3rd party h shifter, or to the fanatec csl dd with pedals and rim + the same third party h shifter for about $1800NZD... not sure which to pick. i know the csl dd setup would be better in every way, but it will be complicated to buy as they dont ship to my country, so freight forwarding, import costs etc. also its double the price of the t300rs. but the t300 will not be a very big upgrade over the g29... and in some aspects (the pedals) its even worse. also its lucky ive found a good h pattern shifter alternative as the thrustmaster h shifter is almost as much as the damn wheel, lol. too much. the g29 shifter for example was only $50nzd, and the wheel was only $350nzd. so 400 all up. hmmm.
this is a tough decision.
@@socks2441 if you are planning to upgrade and can afford the DD equipment then go for that. For me I had to make an emergency decision and it worked for me. The MAIN thing I haven't mentioned since my official review is not done as yet into week #3 is whilst in ACC, I can now tap PS button and go to ps home menu functions without the wheel disconnecting or trying to fracture my wrist when it is calibrating again. I've used it on AC as well and won't be doing that again soon until I've learned how to reduce the FFB as when returning to ACC the FFB was amplified causing the engine vibrations etc to be felt as soon as I started the car and I was forced to adjust trueforce audio and gain to the lowest value just to drive without distraction. When it comes to build quality i have to go with DD as something no review covers it the delay in relaying what you do to the car in game. That delay which has been addressed somewhat in ACC by including adjustable settings for throttle and brake still exist in all low end wheels using cheap circuits and electrical connections or poor quality resulting in resistance to signal flow costing you seconds.
So ur saying t300 is better than any of the Logitech’s
@@gideondessar9342 It should be. From personal experience the best Logitech cannot brake as late as you can with t300.
@@gasixteenb11 unfortunately the cost/hassle would have been too much for the csl dd right now, since they don't ship here etc. So I gave in and upgradedy g29 to a t300rs non get paired with do e t-lcm pedals. That should be a really good setup for a few years and if they ever start shipping here I can upgrade the wheel to a csl dd and keep the pedals. I'm also going to get a cheap knockoff omp wheel and a nice looking 8 gear h pattern from aliexpress. I already have a basic diy handbrake and sequential shifter. .
epic vid. keep up the content.
Thank you!
love the review keep it up stay safe
Thanks for watching!
@@MattsPaddock you too too buddy
Dys
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I have the g923 on my Xbox it's a good wheel definitely but I'm sure the other wheels in the price range are just as good...I'm not too critical a person so I'm sure you would have a bundle of fun whichever you get 👌
Happy to have found this review. Will get the T300 RS since the price is exactly the same as of today around here.
Same, if I’m gonna spend between $350 and $450, go with the better model. Then updgrade pedals and you have a really nice wheel. At the end of the day, it’s still a video game. I think spending upwards of $1000 on a wheel is nuts
as a beginner I got the g923 and with a few settings adjusted for each game I can tell you it's absolutely perfect!👌 and to battle the noise I got it set up on the Xrocker racer rig(£99.99) rather than a desk table and it fits perfectly! no sliding and way less noise😎
I know right logitech is better
@@codyscoffeeshack4924not at all loll
99 gbp to battle the noise?? Why not go T300RS its better in any way besides the feel maybe.
@@codyscoffeeshack4924 no its not
It's worth noting that currently the base price for the g923 in Amazon is 270 to 300 where as the thrustmaster t300 is 450.
Great video! Very consise thank you!
You're very welcome!
I can add some long term insight:
Disclaimers: 1) everyone has different likes/dislikes so my preferences may not match yours. 2) I am comparing a 2008 Logitech G25 to a 2018 Thrustmaster T300 Alcantara edition (The current Logitech wheels look very similar to, and share the same architecture as their old wheels. However, their manufacturing practices or quality control may have changed)
I am a fairly serious sim-racer, I am in no way an e-sports professional, however I have raced in leagues beside iRacing world champions. I do not have a dedicated rig, i use an office desk.
My 2008 Logitech G25 died a noble death in 2018 during a major race. Many of the internal plastic structures broke and that caused the steering column to float within the wheel housing. Electronically the wheel continued to function, because I continued to drive in that race for another 2.5 hours (with the wheel floating around freely). But at the time of this failure, the petals still worked completely issue free, the shifter was fun (although i generally used the paddles), the desk clamp still worked great and was still ROCK solid, basically everything was well and good until the internal structure let go.
I ended up replacing it with a T300 Alcantara edition. I liked the rim, the alcantara was very nice, the extra buttons were a god-send. However, the pedals were immediately a noticeable down-grade. The T300 petals were very soft and squishy and feeling-less (compared to my 10 year old Logitechs). The lack of a shifter was a let-down. The desk clamp on the T300 was terrible: it was a nuisance to use and was never tight enough, the wheel always slipped on my desk no matter how hard I tightened it down. I really didnt notice any difference in the Force FeedBack going from one to the other, and it didn't change my lap time (mind you all those claims of different wheels or pedal springs making you faster is pure marketing BS).
It seems that I am being very negative towards the Thurstmaster, welp there's the rub. I got 10 years out of my G25, and it worked great right up to the day that it all went wrong. 18 Months after buying the T300, the petals started spiking very badly (disassembly and blowing out with an air compressor and contact cleaner is a common occurrence now). At 20 months, the desk clamp broke entirely (I installed studs in the bottom of the wheel and drilled holes in my desk so i can take the wheel on and off with wing nuts). Now at 28 months, the wheel sits on my floor disassembled because the power supply has failed. Research has taught me that this is a common fault and there are home-brew solutions that I am currently undertaking.
If these repairs are not successful and I need to replace this wheel, I'm going Logitech.
Hey, on the matter of your thrustmaster not clamping down or it sliding sround. Only about 1/3 of the thrustmaster needs to be on the table. If you look underneath, the front 1/3rd on the bottom is a bit lifted, that edge goes around your desks edge.
I have an old 12 year old logitech wheel too, and whilst it did hold up really well and it does indeed still work, it is nowhere near as good as tbe t300 i just bought. Maybe you got some bad pedals or something cause mine feel too hard, not too soft...
Anyhow, i love the t300, and so far ive not noticed any of the problems you described
I just changed from G27 to T300 Ferrari Integral Alcantara Edition and Thrustmaster T-LCM pedals.Huge difference,G27 feels like a toy compared to the Thrustmaster wheel and pedals..I also bought the TM Open Wheel.I'm so happy with this little setup all mounted on a wheel stand pro..the stand is the same which I used with the G27 for 5 years,for those who are asking,yes the stand have the holes prepared for logitech and thrustmaster.
I want to upgrade from G29 to this wheel. But it doesn't have PS control buttons. Will I be able to control PS menu etc. Fully with the buttons on this wheel. Thanks.
@@MP-78 I don't have a playstation but I think the T300 base is compatible with it,I don't know if is PS3 or PS4.The buttons on the wheel can be used with playstation and there are 2 more buttons on the base compatible with PS too.
@@MP-78 i think you need to disconnect the ps4 controller once your about to race
have you had any issues with your t300?
@@exo-zaddy4886 nope,all good.
I wished I fully researched before purchasing my G29 few years back. I didn't know the t300 wheel could be replaced
Great video 👍. Helping me make my decision 🤔
Glad I could help
Love the Linus popup when you dropped the power cable
I wanted to get the T300RS GT but went with G920 since I accidentally found it in store for 169 euros + shifter for 35. I think that logitech should sell it around for 200 euros with the shifter since it's a decade old design. To justify 400 euros that they're asking for new models that are exactly the same as older ones they'd need to at least go from gears to a belt to get rid of the clunk.
Hahahha, the Linus part is so true tho
appreciate the help
Thanks for the great video
I'm a huge logitech fan but the Logitech G923 Sim wheel isn't the most pleasant wheel to use in sim racing. There's a lot of rattling due its force feedback which a deaf person could hear the next house over. overall, the Thrustmaster T300 RS GT is such a better wheel at the price point of which Logitech is asking for. belt driven is so much better.
Great Review! Just wondering, is the table clamp any good?
It's alright, but clamps are never going to be good enough.
This alcantara Ferrari wheel feel and look amazing... The TX Drive system feel more real also. Nice review bro !
Get better socks man! Lol!
Awesome video, you helped me make up my mind. Thank you!
My biggest issue with my g920 is heat, doesn’t take long when drifting to heat the motors, losing a lot of fidelity and ffb strength and pretty much makes it useless until it cools.
Yeah, overheating is a common problem, a lot of people do DIY fans onto wheels
@@MattsPaddock I tried that, ended up having to tear the wheel down really often to clean the dust off the hall sensor, so it wouldn’t go out of calibration if I looked at it wrong 😑
Ordered my first sim racing wheel, I went with the T300RS GT. I realize it's not recent, but it seems to be a good choice for entry level. I could't justify spending more for fanatac csl elite unfortunately.
thanks i'm in the same spot. About to start my build and think the fanatecs are a bit spendy considering other costs I have involved. T300 seems like the swee spot
The Thrustmaster T300 are great entry level sim wheel. Fanatec Club Sport is nice.. better feel and ffb.. but not really worth the price jump unless you really want the option for better steering wheels that FANATIC makes. Next step for you is to go Direct Drive wheelbase.. whole different level and worth the price jump.
I did the same thing and then you get addicted, lol the T300 is agate way drug into the sim racing world. You’ve been warned.
yea same.. but also, going into fanatec adds up quick, with all the options you have..
So I think for beginners there is really no better option than the t300 atm..
Personally I got a T300RS GT on the aftermarket for 200$, and I am still having a blast.
I also bought a handbrake and a shifter, because I got into drifting. And especially for drifting, you don't want a logitech. So the t300 is really the only option in the lower price range. Good product!
@@RabbitConfirmed Nice stuff, do you have a specific seat or diy setup? I still need to order one; looking at the foldable playseat or next level racing variant of it
Thanks friend!
Bro, i just found out youre Polish because of the box for pedals that have "UWAGA!" on tape lol
I ended up getting the g920 only cause the shifter for Thrustmaster is not available anywhere and resellers sell it for $200+
First time looking into these, but based on the fact I cant even find the t300rs on sale anymore but the g923 is still hot im guessing the latter was the better buy.
I just had a guy gift me a t300rs as my first wheel. I planned on saving up for the g29 but am so glad I ended up with the thrustmaster. It’s sooooo much fun with gt7. Gonna download assetto corso soon
That’s a great review
Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
@@MattsPaddock Now I’ve eliminated g923 from my considerations as it seems inferior to Thrustmaster.
But not sure which one to buy between T248 and T300 RS GT.
I’m worried about the the T300 being old ~7 years since the release. On the other hand the steering resistance of T248 seems worrying a bit but the pedals are better.
Which one you’d prefer?
@@fahada1921 Go t300rs if its gt edition. I would add th8a shifter too.
As a current G25 user, looking to upgrade my wheel setup soon. I haven't upgraded to a G29 because in my opinion the G25 feels a lot better, so I'm hoping that the upgrade to a T300 will be a bigger step-up. However, I can't help it but to hesitate buying a T300. As I've heard a lot of stories that it breaks really fast, or that people receive broken products. Where as this doesn't seem to be the case with the Logitech products. Also those plastic pedals on the T300 seem like a lot worse quality than the Logitech pedals. Any comments on this?
Just skip the T300 and go to the T500 instead.
@@purpasmart_4831 Are you talking sexy?
@@purpasmart_4831 nah the t500 is older and unrefined so even tho the t300 has a little less torque its still smoother and more precise and also has a quiker reaction time then the t500
@@rens7846 Teah my bad, the t300 is actually way better.
the logishit is way less reliable than the t300, and is 3x worth the cost
I swapped my T300 RS for a G923, the logitech pedals are a massive margin better on carpet floors with the carpet grips on the bottom, the wheel itself and the pedals are a hell of a lot better quality, the brake pedal feel on the T300 RS is very lifeless even with the rubber thing installed, i dont mind the sound the G923 makes (this video makes it sound a lot louder than it is), its a small tradeoff when you consider the dissapointment in the quality of the T300 RS, it also feels better when driving. The T300 felt a bit lifeless compared to the G923. I wouldnt go back. Rather than buying a T300RS, then upgrade the wheel you would be better off buying a Fanatec direct drive unit, the CSL is only a little bit more than both these wheels and would be a good competitor to these two.
I agree. I feel this review isn’t accurate. The g923 is not loud. And its built better than that Thrustmaster.
The g923 pedals are much better also.
Great review 🙌
Thank you!
Just got a t300rs GT for 328 euros (thrustmaster had a sale). Was about to get a g923 for 350 euros but saw the sale for the t300, very happy with the wheels and not having any issues.
Hey dude, I'm about to get mine soon, since this comment is a year old now, can you please share your expericene with the wheel after a year? any issues or such?
@@mcitp7596 Hey, personally the only issue i have is that sometimes, the upshift paddle doesnt give that *click* when you use it, it still registers the input so it isnt an issue for me whatsoever, other than that its a great wheel and i hope you enjoy yours :)
@@klutzyice I just ordered one, hope it goes well for me too. Thanks for your reply.
13:50 check your input lag! Make sure your display is set to game mode. This will massively improve your experience and it will sync up your wheel movements with the on screen wheel movements.
Must you think you know everything, ALL the time 🙄.
@@thetalkingelement2415 wtf whats your point?
@@thetalkingelement2415 ?
@@matthewmcewen1 I highly doubt you ever have anything to say other than, oh I know this and I know that 😂 😘
@@thetalkingelement2415 lol what kind of evidence do you have to support that? It's a pretty bold and rough claim which as far as I can tell is based on one comment which I wrote purely to be helpful.
When it comes to durability, Thrustmaster can be problematic and their customer support will only make it worse.
Guess I got lucky, I've had my T300 RS GT that I bought open box for 300 for about 3 years now. It still works like it's brand new, I'm really happy with it, when it breaks I might get a DD wheel like the Podium or something, but honestly, I might just get another one of these because it's been so awesome. Even the pedals are damn good.
Mine broke after 3 uses ... i am sending it back and requesting full refund.
@@2ndAveScents mine is still strong after 2 years of use, i went to the csl dd
if you do youll fucking love it, its so much better it doesnt feel like a toy anymore
@@SSmallwood thanks bro I’m gonna get one for sure
thx for the review. I got every info I need.
Glad I could help!
I have the g923 and shifter. I bought a nice $80 rig. Its fantastic feeling. I got the wheel new for $180 and shifter was $50. So for under $300 i have a really decent setup.
Finally a video of the topic I wanted! Planning to sell my G29 to my friends and upgrade it to something new like the G923 or T300RS but the T300RS has gone down in price so T300RS it is then
Awesome, glad to hear it helps!
I did the same
The g29 is on sale for 250 dollars on amazon. It's 300 for the shifter bundle.
Had g series since the g25 days but I bought a t300 and it is better. Smoother ffb without a notchy feel
How is the reliability compared to the g series of Logitech ?
In two weeks I’m going to purchase either the t300 Rs gt or Logitech g923 so wondering which one to go with
@@mikashenmunsamy9397 T300 RS GT Trust me. The g923 is just the g29 with some extra marketing bullshit.
And the reliability of the thrustmaster , the comments on reliability make me Doubt the purchase
@@mikashenmunsamy9397 Have had my T300 RS GT for about 3 years about now and no problems at all so far.
Super great review!!
I have been using t300rs gt plus th8 well over a 2 years and im very happy with this!
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can you use the t300 with another thrustmaster shifter. I really like the thrustmaster shifter over the logitech one. Also great video
I also like to add stay away from fanatec CSL, it's a poor corner cut version of the old CSR entry wheels that Fanatec decided to take out of production, most likely because nobody was buying their overpriced junk. T300 GT edition is simply the best wheel buy for the price now.
I use a CSR elite and a modded version of the g25 shifter with a standalone adapter and a larger metal stick for better reach. That is the best shifter logitech has made.
I have a CSR, CSR Elite, Clubsport, G25, G27, G29, T300RS GT and the CSL which cost me 700€ just to get a complete set with pedals and shifters and in the end it wasn't even comparable quality to the 300€ CSR elite so it was sent back to Fanatec in Germany, Fanatec like to sell their racing equipment seperate instead of complete sets so you pay more, for that reason and the lack of build quality these days i can only advice anyone to avoid them unless you have around 2000-2500€ for a Clubsport set which is the best wheel currently in existence.
For that amount of money you can get a good amount of parts for a cockpit.
Just got the G29 and it's not bad. Then again, it's my first wheel. It made me a better driver than using my controller for sure 😂
toy wheel lol
@@EazyDuz18 little child reaction lol
@@EazyDuz18 shut up.U cannot make a better one right?
@@TheGhostOfEurope its true though, even the t300 feels like a toy
once you go through a few wheel youll understand oh yeah that logishit was garbage, for starters is great dont get me wrong
I used for so many years a Logitech Momo, that in the end I briefly tried a G27 of a friend and found a G29 for like 160 eur brand new.. went for it and never looked back; I've repaired the Momo and gifted it to a friend, which had a Microsoft Wheel xD. At that price you get a T150, which imho isn't a bad wheel per se, but those stock pedals are horrible compared to the G29.
Here the G923 is 280ish, the T300RS GT is 330-350. Considering the price of the shifter (which is 40ish vs 150ish) it really gets expensive, to go the Trustmaster way, albeit admittedly it's an overall significantly better quality product as whole.
I'm happy to have spent literally nothing for my G29 and I hope it will last as my old Momo, that is still going after more than 15 years. For casual sim racing it was the good choice, should you go doing high level multiplayer racing, then probably T300 or T500 or direct wheel are the way to go.
Looking to upgrade from a g27 so the t300rsgt looks pretty good to me
I wanna buy the T300RS GT, but in Brazil its price is 2x the G29's. Is the T300 2x better? Would it still be a good deal at this price proportion?
If that's the case, get the G29
The T300 is way better than any logitech wheel... while it works. Thrustmaster has the worst support I've ever had to deal with and I've never seen a product fail as many times as my TX(which is almost identical to the T300). I actually wish it had an external power supply since that's the first part that failed. In certain markets I think it comes with a power brick.
What kindve issues have you had with it? I just ordered my first wheel and got the TX. Power supply shouldnt be an issue, as from videos ive seen, its supposed to have an external power supply brick.
thank you !
The software stuff for Thrustmaster isn't a big deal for me, since I run everything through Joystick Gremlin anyway. Looks like I'll switching brands away from Logitech again.
Ordered the logitech G923 but after this review I changed order to T300RS GT
so worth it. I also orders the TX leather edition. But then realized its the same as a t300 but $150 more.
@@niftyszn9469 The TX leather wheel has their leather steering rim which is why it costs more. Same with the alcantara edition
The Logitech shifter can be converted to a sequentialo for a $10 3D printed mod.
3d printed mods break super easy and wear fast as hell, not worth buying a 20 dollar mod every few months
The TM is higher quality but it's also about 200 bucks more in Canada which made this an easy choice for me. G923 and I'm a happy camper.
Excellent Video
Thank you very much!
@@MattsPaddock curious something maybe you might know, my 300GT clutch has never been recognized by the ps4, can be assigned to any thing else, the wheel can be assigned to the clutch, haven't figured this one out
Play the G923 with Dirt Rally 2.0. update for the wheel. WOW WOW WOW, Tx you Logitech 😍😍😍
what do you mean ?
@@bastschi1507 Hi Bastschi, Dirt Rally 2 now use the TrueForce feature. Simply the best effect for me.
@@louispouliot4102 oh okay
Good Review, but too much input lag man.
Thanks! It's due to the camera shutter speed and monitors refresh rate, it's not IRL like that
If you’re watching this in 2022. If you’re planning on buying a sim wheel and you’re leaning towards the Logitech wheel because you’re thinking to yourself that it’s cheaper and you could buy the Logitech wheel and shifter for less than what the t300 wheel cost. Save your money and buy the t300. As someone who bought the g29, I mean I do like it and it does the job. But after using its for a few months you’re going to start going on Amazon or eBay looking for different mods to either change the steering wheel and maybe even change the H shifter to a sequential. And then you’re going to realize that all those 3rd party mods you’re looking at. It’s a standard upgrade for the t300. In the end I ended up selling my g29 and replaced it’s with a t300. And now in 2022, I was looking a the new Logitech direct drive, but I know that if I bought that I’m probably going to wish I just bought a fanetic. Me personally I’m just going to save up for a fanetic wheel.
I'll be finally trying the new Logitech wheel at the ADAC Sim Racing Expo next week, really looking forward to do that, but yeah, as for now, solely because of the price of it, there are better direct drive options, like CSL DD, Moza R5, SimMagic Alpha Mini...
Need help please! Trueforce on the G923 is ONLY recognized on my PS5 after I had connected it to the PC app. Once I turn off my PS5, and restart it to play GT7, it will again only recognize Trueforce after I run it through the PC app first. For some reason it looses the Trueforce feature after I restart the PS5, and can only work after I have connected to the PC app. If I leave my PS5 open all day, it wiill work straight, but once the PS5 is closed and restarted, its the same story over again!
I had the Thrustmaster for about a month before I got the Logitech G923. And the Logitech is a HUGE winner for me. I had no loose clamping issues like you showed. Not sure what you did when clamping the G923 base, but it was obviously wrong. It appeared you left it very loose on purpose. The leather grip on the Logitech steering wheel is much better than the Thrustmaster rubber grip. I also prefer the Logitech pedal setup and really like the progressive braking resistance. It feels like applying the brakes in a real car. And the Trueforce steering technology of the Logitech sealed the deal for me. But it is all personal preference. The Logitech is my favorite and even at the $430 I paid for it I am very happy with it. I don't cry about price tags. Good luck to all whichever one you choose.
I don't know WHAT wheel to choose. I was going to order Thrustmaster first, but everything is on limited supply
If I didn't cry about price tags I'd get a Fanatec lol.
Honestly its not a useable wheel if you like drifting, the noise from the Logitech set really shocked how how loud it is! Based on the grinding noise alone i would never suggest this wheel.
Awesome reviews. I like the depth if information you offer.
One note, in New Zealand where I'm from, the thrustmaster 300RS is NZ$800, whilst G29 are around $400 to $500 and the G923 are $550 to $650. The shifter is $80 to $100 for Logitech, and around $100 for the Thrustmaster.
I wonder why Thrustmaster is the more expensive wheel here? 🤔
Yeah, with Thrustmaster it (price) really differs greatly depending of where you live
Yeah, this is the case everywhere. Not sure why it isn't mentioned in the review, especially given that he regularly references the G29 in the comparisons. In Canada the TM is $600, G923 $500, and G29 $350. Based on the reviews of these products the G29 is clearly the best for the price.
The reviewer stated the TM stock options feel cheaper. as well and showed options for upgrades but those come with a price tag. So if you upgrade you're going to add another $250-400. Honestly, the comparisons are a bit apples to oranges because the price ranges are so drastically different.
exact same problem man!
Same in Bangladesh. Logitech one is around 300$ but 300RS GT is for almost 800$. I dont get it
@@masrubsiddiquemeraj8700 t300 is almost $200 more expensive in Straya
Heute kam das Thrustmaster an, alles soweit OK, nur ein Problem gibt es.....der Stecker der Pedale rastet nicht hinten in der Buchse des Lenkrades ein, hattest du (ihr) das auch ??
Thank you :)
As a beginner in simulations, I bought a G29 + the shifter on a sale for ~215 EUR last year, it was a pretty great deal.
Although in the current price range, I would definitely choose the T300. You forgot to mention that the TH8A is 3 times more expensive than the logitech shifter, of course it's better. :)
Lol, in my case new g920 cost me as much as the TH8A shifter cost.
U dont need a th8a tho even the €50 shifter ln ali express is pretty good or for €100 a shh shifter
its literally 8 times more expensive in my country. its like $390 or something for the th8a shifter, and $50 for the g29 shifter, lol. suffice it to say, even if i go thrustmaster i am not buying that particular shifter.
@@danielh9981 that aliexpress shifter (if its the one im thinking of) has been rated in reviews to be as good as if not better than the th8a in terms of feel. i dont want the word to get out too much though as i plan on buying once once ive deciding if im upgrading from my g29 to thrustmaster or csl dd, either way im getting that shifter. the alternatives are waaay too pricey. and i dont want that aliexpress shifter to go up in price, lol..
@@socks2441 ye fair enough xD
I feel like G29/G923 is just better value for money when you just starting since it costs $300/380 (£220/280) compared to Thrustmaster T300 RS GT which was at least $420 (£310)
(all prices for brand new wheel)
Agreed. Having said that though I really don't like the rough feel of the logitech and the noises it makes. Both are caused by it using gears. I got mine for only £150 though in an amazon warehouse deal (like new). I couldn't justify paying double for the thristmaster. Especially as reading reviews showed a fairly significant number of complaints about reliability.
Nope. The T300 is belt driven, which is miles better as the gear driven system logitech uses.
@@NotNiekie yeah, this
you get what you pay for, the t300rs gt is much better wheel for its value
You should also have mentioned the cost of those shifter
Although the thrustmaster is better than the logitech one ... it costs about 4 times as much ...
You mentioned the logitech shifter doesn’t work on its own, but I have read a little into adapters for it considering the thrustmaster ones way too over priced. Wouldn’t one of those $10 adapters for rs232 to usb work for pc?
you get what you pay for, the th8a isnt as good as the fanatec one but it doesnt feel like a toy like the logi one does
thrustmaster seems nicer, but their build quality and after sales support are absolute trash. i have a driving force pro from 2003 that my kid still uses to this day on his PC. i had a thrustmaster TMX that only lasted a few months before it stopped working. just picked up a g923...will fire it up for the first time later today!
I went for the T300 RS GT and there were only some problems with squeaking which I solved. I wouldnt go for logitech. Its cheaper and less professional.
So what one is better in your opionion i play on pc and im wondering what one would be better for a budget around 400
Best review
is there a version of the t300 that is compatible with xbox?
842chaos Thrustmaster TX basically
I don't know about others but it's weird he keeps comparing these to the G29. In Canada the Thrustmaster model is around $600, the 923 is $500 and the G29 is $350. Obviously, these prices fluctuate from time to time, but if you're going to keep bringing up the G29 then you should also bring up the fact that it's nearly half the price of both of these wheels.
The only reason for bringing it up is that the G923 is basically a copy paste G29 for double the price. The T300 is in a different class even solely for the belt. There is 0 reason IMHO to get a G923 over a G29 unless you just want to hurl money at Logitech. The only reason it's compared to T300 is because it's the same price. Lol.
the dfgt, g25, g27, g29 and 923 are all the same w MINOR changes, still just the same copy paste crap
Just bought my self a T300RS GT...the price difference here in Canada is basically $50 more(the T300RS GT). So it was an obvious choice to get it.
How do you like it now 11 months later?
Hey, right now the G923 goes for around 300$ and the thrustmaster T300 goes for 400$ should I get the G923 since it's cheaper?
Had two T300RS’. First one had the power supply fail just out of warranty. Second one, the motor failed as did the Hall effect sensor. While I like how the wheel felt whilst it was working, I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone due to abysmal build quality.
this is exactly what I was thinking too... seems that although thrustmaster is the better performing wheel, but I've seen soooo many people saying that over time problems will occur. I cant afford to replace parts along the way so I just want something good and reliable lol
what were your force feedback settings
@@ruffoprime1282 I ran 50% default settings. So update.. I started with the Logitech G920, then returned that for the G923, and then returned that and got a steal on kijiji for the Thrustmaster TMX Pro with the TH8A shifter and a stand.. no regrets man, I love my thrustmaster way more than I did with my Logitech
if you had a g920 and had their issue like constant miscalibration, wiring issues to do with the face pcb to the base pcb etc etc you wouldnt be complaining, my t300rs gt only had one issue and that was the fan bearing got noisey but thats an easy upgrade
I had a used TMX pro kit, didnt have any issue with and the next owner too,
Upgrade to TX for 1 year casual utility (quite more intensive in the end), it fade after intensive drifting sessions but never failed,
New owner freaking love it over his g923
Upgrade to TS-XW (bought used) god i love that wheel, not had a single problem with so far
The 2 first wheels was mainly for forza7 (little assetto for the Tx)
And i like my steering to feel heavy since i drove a non powersteering cars on semi-slick, so my FFB are quite aggressive (but in a realistic way) and they never failed
thats why I sold my Logitech and replace with t300rsgt
Same
how is it holding up? i heard it has a lot of problems
@@brotato654 g29 has a lot of noise, and gear system feels rough, if you want to buy steering wheel better you save your money, patient, until it enough to buy t300
@@brotato654 i bought the t300 alcantara edition, used it for about 30 mins, and then it just shut down and stopped working. sent it back, still looking for another wheel, dont know if i should get the g923.
@@Jericho1903 Dont get the G923, its the same thing as G29 but more expensive
Could literally see the detail you were getting on the t300rs on the up close shots the rumble def pretty good lol
its a kids gimmick lol
@@EazyDuz18 gimmick it is not there are such thing as rumble straps and when you go over them that's what you should feel lol also there was way more detail on that t300rs overall
So, which one is must better for play?
Best review of the g920 / g923 and T300 RS GT so far 👍
Thanks!
I thought the tmx/T150 vs the g29 would have been more comparable. Isn't like the T300 on a different level then the G29?
this is the updated g29 it’s supposed to have better force feedback
@@seanmccann5270 it's the same feedback as g29 but with added vibration. Pointless really
@@mrshab yeah they just added a little vibrator for more immersion, the wheel has been the same since the dfgt with a few facelifts and worse reliability.
Thank you
I just got the Logitech g923 wheel. I love it other than the fact that the brake pedal is extremely stiff. It’s to the point where I might return it. This is my only complaint
That's a PLUS in Sim Racing. You have to recall that brakes in actual race cars are much stiffer than your passenger car for brake force. F1 cars, for example, require A LOT of force to apply brake pressure. Same with 18 wheelers, too, if you're into ETS2 or ATS. Food for thought. That's one advantage of a load-cell type, FULL Brake is however much weight you can put into the pedal. With the Potentiometer sensors (like in these lower tier solutions) it's all about range of motion. If i were you, I'd keep your solution and simply use it more and adjust to it. I've been Sim racing since 2008 and I've had the same G27 since 2015. I'm starting to look towards replacing it and the T300 is looking promising so far. And I've been loyal to Logitech since 2009.
T300RS all the way through. I was using for a while the logitech g29 and it feels kinda like a toy also it's to noisy. When I heard logitech bringing us a new wheel I thought it would be something to beat my T300RS but then I felt like logitech fans got scammed. Same wheel different colors.
"Same wheel different colors" that's what they have been doing since the G25
@@rejiix The g25 and g27 are identical but they look entirely different to the g29 and g923 which in themselves are also identical.
@@ay-leck1369 the g25 has strait cut gears while the g27-g923 use nearly identical helical cut gears. 25 to g27 was the biggest step that logitech made with this dinosaur of a platform.
@@ay-leck1369 and the g923 has a different motor driver and slightly revised gearing vs the g29
Nonsense man, ive had g29, g920 and g923 now, they dont make noise.... and they last, t300s break
I already know this isint a comparison, but I'm still gonna watch to rub it in past me's face that I have a t300 now haha
That’s fkn funny.. something I would say/do 😂
I’ve narrowed my preference down to Thrustmaster, So help me out, T300 RS or T248? There is only a $50 price difference right now so I want the best of the two.
Huh the t300rs is 700$ usd