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Scary to Sweet: The truth behind "evil" alters
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- čas přidán 25. 11. 2017
- There is no such thing as a bad alter! Even alters that seem scary or mean are just trying to help in their own misguided ways.
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Tell Karen (since she doesn't come out much) that no one can hurt her now. She does help by being her. She is so strong to take on all that she did as a 5-year-old little girl and to hold that for all these years (even if the memories are in a chest). She makes it so the system can work just by being her. ♥
Oh my gosh, when Karen said, "Little girls get hurt" I started crying. I can relate and I understand why she would want to be a big, scary, boy monster. Boys and monsters don't get hurt the same, so if you can become that to protect yourself, why wouldn't you? I'm so glad with therapy and time that she has been able to go back to being a little girl and is starting to believe that "girls can be strong too." The pain that must of created her breaks my heart just thinking about it, and a part of me is envious in a way because I wish I was capable of protecting myself from memories the same way. I applaud Karen for finding the courage to make an appearance on camera. She's so brave. Please tell her that she's safe now and have Mistletoe give her a hug for me. ❤
I definitely cried when she said "I'm just a little girl, but I think that's ok" what a brave, strong girl you are, Karen!! That takes a lot of courage to do what you did! Well done
wow that was really brave of Karen!
thanks for sharing this story!
to Karen. you are such a strong girl! i'm really proud of you and your transformation. accepting who you are can be really hard sometimes. i'm so glad that you know that girls can be strong too! i'm really proud of what a strong helper you are to Wyn and the others.
(side note: i'm not crying, nope....)
Every time I watch this I wanna cry. Rainy (our angsty teen girl) acts out so much because “girls get hurt” and that sentence resonates so very much with us. Thank you for bringing light to important things like this. Lots of good vibes to Karen. Little girls can definitely be strong and loud and helpers.
Edit: I just realized this was published on the body’s birthday which is a lot of ours and thank you for the heart! {:
I needed this. I'm the "bad" altar. Or I try to be as scary as possible to scare people away from me or my host or the system in general. But that's the only way I know how defend me and the system. I mean well but I (along with almost everyone else in the system) wish I wasn't so mean. However it is nice to know that I have a chance to do better. And you have my respect (both you and Karen) for making this. I wish you well. By the way, tell Karen I wish her well too if you would.
-Her
Thank you for explaining. When you're the one who has to keep everyone away , I get it. I have social anxiety disorder, depression and find it difficult to leave the house on my own. It comes from childhood emotion neglect, raising 2 sons with disorders, oppositional defiant disorder, being the worst. I was put in a postion where I was told if I didn't raise my grandson then he'd go into care. My son has custody of him. He's one happy little boy just turned 5 yrs. Now I can't stand to be around people, I choose to have no friends, I can't cope with their needs, its too overwhelming. I can't cope with noise or people talking. I'm so glad Karens safe now. I hope things are better for you too......☺ Jayne
I don’t understand how anyone would ever think your alters are faked...as a linguist I can see clear as day that when Karen was fronting she had the speech patterns of a little girl...and not only the ones that are obvious to people who know or have children. The body language, posture, doubling and repetition are all indication of a small child who has been through trauma.
Karen we love you, and all the alters, thank you for being so strong and protecting your system.
Omg, I just wanna hug Karen, she's adorable!
Karen, coming and talking to us on CZcams is probably one of the bravest and strongest things you could do. You're helping yourself, your system, and many other systems across the world. How cool is that? I'm really proud :)
Karen is lovely! That was really brave of her.
I love how you all explain stuff about did cause I met people with did on the internet before and they were all so torn apart that it was scary and no one seemed emotionally stable enough to properly explain what was happening to them. You all seem very nice and if I met any of you irl I would totally befriend you. Keep up the good work!
This reminds us of our Al, who used to go by It. He was our version of a monster, but he's really just a teenage boy, he's Alex's older brother, and will protect him till the ends of the earth, and he'd be super embarrassed if he found I I was telling this story, but both him and I used to be persecutors, I thought that limiting our food would keep us safe, but I realize now that wasn't healthy for me or the others, and I'm very thankful Silas, Lily and the others helped both Al and me realize that.
~Petal
Karen did an amazing job! I don’t even know her but I’m proud of her for being able to talk on camera and for being strong in her own way.
Aw my heart was breaking for Karen. I can only imagine how frightened she felt. Her comment about how 'little girls get hurt' was incredibly heart wrenching and sad. She's safe now and she has so many people to look out for her ❤
Thank you for making this. I’m often seen as rude or scary or bad, I’m really just trying to help. Im the protector of the system and I hold on to a lot of bad memories that host has been through and just try to make things a little better. I’m really defensive over her and everyone else in the system, so often if I feel threatened or if I feel they’ve been threatened. I get defensive and insult people or yell at them. But I’m not a bad alter or anything.. Anyways, thank you very much. -Eduardo
We get ya. Our only persecutor is Crow, and he's cold, sadistic and unempathic. But he's not evil. Hes more about revenge. He's just angry, and vengeful. Our main protector has a brother who's kinda scary too, but he's trying to teach me to stand up for myself, in his own weird way. I still treat them like family X3
Another beautiful video! It’s really comforting to us to hear about your backstories in this way. It’s amazing to know we’re not alone 🙂 Please let Karen know she did an awesome job to talk about her experiences so bravely, especially on camera! She definitely sounds like one of the strongest little girls we know ♥️
Karen thanks so much for coming out to tell your story. You did amazing and you really are a strong girl. Know that we all support you and respect that you are shy. And remember your not the only alter like that Josh is pretty shy too. Always remember you don't need to be big to be strong.
Who would dislike this? You are strong Karen and I hope you know that
This is so fascinating!
I feel like I’m learning a lot !
Still got a lot of questions about D.I.D though.
And btw! I LOVE it when Karen says “Girls can be strong too” ! That is so true! Girls can be just as strong as boys ! I hope to see more of Karen in the future:)
Hey Karen I ran away too but you gave me some courage to be strong as the girl I am. So thank you!
Thank you for making this video. One of our littles who is also a trauma holder felt that karen was personally speaking to her, and she feels the same way about little girls getting hurt. But Karen's words of being a strong girl even though she's still little have given our own little a lot of hope and we think this video might become her source of strength as a reminder that little girls are so strong.
Wow I find it so fascinating that you know so much about yourself. I just only started with therapy two years ago and I slowly understand where I'm coming from so I can imagine how much time and training went into that achievement. Amazing! You're someone to look up to.
Belinda Bauer I can only tribute my healing to my amazing AMAZING therapist. I started seeing her for PTSD but she recognized my symptoms and diagnosed me with DID. She was the one who encouraged Karen to feel comfortable being her true self. She was the one who helped me establish some level of trust with Mistletoe. I don’t know where I’d be without her.
I wish you all the best on your journey to healing. You are amazing and brave for pressing forward. -Wyn
That was a great explanation, and Karen was really brave to talk to us.
Thank you so much for making this! Your videos are very informative and it really helps me to understand what DID is! Karen was very brave and I appreciate that she was willing to talk! Again thanks very much!
lol I'm binge watching You and all those other great system yotubers now that I have some time. Our persecutor changed her name recently from Regna (anger backwards) to Diana and has been working to be more of a protector in ways that are good for us. good video!
We are currently going through something like this. We have a monster thing and it took the form of fire and a big scary monster and we’re trying to get it to calm down because it’s been mentally harassing Rae since the body was 13- Jake.
I’ve been obsessively watching all of your system’s posts, and this is the first one that I feel I need to comment on:
Karen, you are so amazingly brave. What a wonderful person you are! Thank you so much for sharing who you are!!!!
Love to everyone!
-Alaina
Hey guys, gift idea for Karen - The Adventures of Princess and Mr Whiffle, by Patrick Rothfuss. Karen telling her story really reminded me of it, and I think she might really love it. It's a not-for-children children's picturebook, and you'll see why it's "not-for-children" but plenty of children love it, I hear. You can find Rothfuss reading it on CZcams, he's read it a number of times in Q&As. We're poor as heck so may never be able to get it to you, maybe give it a watch and consider getting a copy?
Also thank you for the educational video, this one had useful things I didn't know 🧡
-Sim
The Phoenix System
Thank you Karen! It's lovely seeing you, I'm proud of you for being so brave and talking to us, you're very nice!
I cant believe that I missed watching this video. This is so very raw and honest and touches nearly all of the senses. Thank you Entropy, and Karen in particular, for being brave enough to make this.
Your Ally,
John
To Karen: You are so special! You did all that to protect Wyn, which is super amazing! And to hear you say that girls can be strong, I was cheering for you when you did! Yes, girls can be strong. Girls can be powerful, girls can protect. Just think of a mother bear. No one would mess with her babies, because she is so strong and able to protect them so well. You are so brave for telling your story, and I am beyond proud of you wanting to be a strong girl
This is so true. Me and one of my alters didn’t use to get alone and she was so mean to people while I’ll be on the inside like no don’t say that and a whole dialogue would take place .. I needed this because my therapist said the same
Karen you are a strong girl and a brave one! Thank you for sharing with us 💘.
We have an 8 year old girl who shares a lot of the same feelings and reasoning as Karen appears to. Just remember, it’s okay to be afraid and it’s okay to express your feelings in healthy ways.
karen you did a really good job. i bet it was scary. but it's okay to be scared sometimes because you have people who care about you. have a great day you guys :*
tell Karen thanks for sharing and that she is really brave and is truely a strong person
i got so emotional with karen, i feel so bad of rher, i just wanna hug her and tell her that everything is okey. and she has all of you guys if she gets scared. Thinking that wyn went trough this makes my heart hurt.
I feel like I’m Karen’s mother and I’m like so proud that she stepped out of her comfort zone to film the video and like now I wanna give her tons of hugs and love. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I WATCH YOUR VIDEOS I GET EMOTIONALLY ATTACHED TO EVERYONE
Oh sweet candy, Karen is the most precious thing ever! You are a brave,smart,scary and strong girl. We all love you so much and you don’t need to worry about anything! You have the system,your brother (and I’m a twin too so I understand how sad it can feel when being compared to someone who is basically the other side of you) and all of us to love and care for you!
Hi Wyn, my name is Zoe and I would like to just say hi to the alters because they are all amazing. I love learning more and more about DID through your videos as the seem to be more informative than others that I've been able to find. I would just like to let all of you know that I think you are incredible and to keep up with the amazing work you are doing :) (oh and if Karen is comfortable with it I'd also like to send a hug)
Karen is so sweet, i love her. i'm so proud of her, if i'm allowed to be. shes done so well!
I just wanna say that i recently stumbled across this channel and so far this has been really cool and interesting
Ps karen- thank you for being so strong for Wyn and being so brave to talk to us i know it must Haber been hard
My little girl inside is Kati 3 and her brother Joey 4 he's sometimes 6 years old. Kati was the very 1st of all them. Often as a adult I could hear at night a little girl crying .But. Even before I found out about the other 9 of them. I never was scared, I wanted to hold the little girl crying. I wanted to tell her she was safe and ok. Many times the next morning I would awake in my bedroom. I would be in corner with my knees up to my chest holding my grandpas bible to my chest also. Come to find out it was actually Kati in the corner. Now years later she never cries and knows she is safe. She loves playing coloring. He brother signs her name. That baby little girl saved me Tina when the sexual abuse started when I was also at age 3. I love that sweet heart.
I don't even have DID but this video was really inspirational to me. Great work!
thats so interesting, when i was first starting to get to know my friend i remembered him saying something about his alters wanting to try and kill him and i was worried and scared about him but im glad to watch this video to get a better understanding. It makes me wonder if he has therapy...
I really hope he doesn't see this @_@
That made me so sad to watch. Please tell Karen that we love her and she does not have to be afraid anymore. No one can hurt her ever again.
Karen, you are so brave for sharing your story on camera. I'm proud of you. Wyn, thank you, as someone who had an introject turn into one of my biggest protectors, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Oh the feels 😭😭😭
All the Littles want to give Karen the HUGEST HUGS ❤️❤️❤️
So many of them know and understand exactly how she feels.
Our own Sir Lancelot seemed really aggressive and mean, trying years upon years to make the host realise he's there and not succeeding. After succeeding though, he became just this cool guy pretty much :D that was an interesting change for us seen as the host was really scared of him for so long since he usually screamed at them.
Thank you Karen. That was so brave to tell people this such important thing. I think it will help a lot of people to hear it
Karen seems such a gorgeous, brave girl! I am so impressed by her. I know this is incredibly late, but if you see this please tell her that I'm so impressed by how strong she's been and I hope that now that she's safe she can enjoy being her own wonderful self. Much love to her and the rest of the system
loved this video. it really helped me understand the point of view of one of our littles who is also a persecutor. thank you for making this
I have a five year old daughter, and my heart breaks for Karen. :(
Derek n I started to cry. Thank you for this.
Thank you for this excellent video! I hate the idea of "bad alters" in a D.I.D. system. The (former) persecutor in my system is also a little, and his story hurts my heart, much as Karen's did. I think Karen is so brave and strong! She has helped your system so much in the past, and I'm sure her continuing contributions will be amazing! -Nichole from the Et Al System
We love you Karen!!! You are strong and big and amazing!
I don't really know how to explain it but some of your videos and the stuff you talk about just like really strikes a cord with me. I don't necessarily know what it all means just yet but I'm really glad you make these kinds of videos
Awe, Karen! Thank you for being so brave to come out and tell your side of things. You ARE strong. Girls ARE strong. You’re proof of that. Always be who YOU are. You have a purpose. And you are so lovely 💗
Really impressed by Karen’s courage and strength in sharing herself in the system but also with CZcams and all of us!
I love your videos its hard to fine good DID channels.
Thomas Price Thank you so much! We work really hard to make our videos feel fun and accessible.
If you haven’t yet, you should check out the Matroesjka System, the Labyrinth System, and Jeremy: An Alternate Perspective. They are some of our favorite DID channels.
And multiplicityandme.
Oh yes, definitely that channel as well! I suppose I just assumed that anyone who stumbled across my channel must automatically know about theirs haha
Thank you for the video! It's so good seeing Karen's strength and willingness to help!
You did great Karen! (I hope I used the correct spelling). Girls can definitely be strong and you can still scare off the bad guys when necessary! But the world can be such a beautiful place, filled with just as many great people! So I hope you get to experience some great things yourself! 🤗
I've been binging your videos to try and understand what's going on in my own head. And it's been really informative and helpful.
But Karen's bit hit me hard. I am so sorry y'all went through whatever it was you went through. I am so sorry people hurt you so badly. I am so sorry.
This is amazing! Thank you for the courage all of you have!!
Cant wait for you guys to come back! Miss you all soo much
Karen, you're amazing💗
I have them from my fathers' abuse and I am dying now.
You are so brave for showing your true self, Karen. You are so strong. Keep being the strong, little girl that you are!
Oh god this broke my heart! Karen you are so beautiful and strong girl! Im glad things are better for her and the sistem.
I was really exited to see her :) I was wondering how she would be. She's such a strong sweet girl and it break my heart that she thought she couldn't be a little girl because then she get hurt. But it does make sence when I think about why she was born
Awwww Karen is so sweet. I can tell that she truely wants to help and to help fight for Wyn. What Karen said has really made my day
I love Karen and hope she builds up the courage to do another video. She is so brave and strong❤️❤️
Tell that little girl she did wonderful and thank you...
When the castle existed our introject she was used to break down our memories. She was kept in a cathedral. But when the castle became the labrynth she left us... We dont know if she is still here or not.
Great video!
Very brave of Karen to come on camera and speak. Thank you both.
No hate, but the music is so distracting to me. :-P Especially, because this video was SO interesting. Just found your channel recently and I love it.
Thank you for the feedback! We've had a few comments like this on other videos as well so we're probably going to drop the music track from now on. Thanks for helping us keep up the quality of our videos :) -Wyn
The Entropy System Looking forward. And just wanted to say, you seem really nice. Sending love from Germany.
Yes girls can be big and strong.(Aundray) You were really brave. (Maya)
I want to say to caren. It's not your fault. I didn't deserve being abused. I'm here for u. I know what it's like to be abused. I was abuse myself.
Tammy is the same way I am trying to tell her its OK but people hate her and she acts like a kid
karrn sound like my shadowman which is what I call it my boyfriend wants to humanize it and togather they called it Valentine.
Aw poor Karen... I want to give her the biggest mama hug and protect her. My heart.
Sending you lots of cuddles Karen ☺❤
Aweee I needed this hee hoo.
-Mystery
OMG this is so brave!
Good job Karen!
...thank you. :)
I’m really scared to take contact to my alters directly. I know they know something that I don’t. I’ve been in a good mood for a while and I don’t want it to stop. I have figured out what triggers me and why do I get triggered. I also know to avoid things that trigger me.
I’d like to know why my Trigger alter is what he is. He doesn’t like vegetables, he is really skinny and only uses black clothes. The veggie thing suggests me that he is young. He wants to be really mean and scary to others. I know he is hurt from the inside. I think he could have been formed when I was bullied in school by boys. I always wondered why didn’t I get visibly upset and why was I so different from everyone else. Seems like dissociation is the reason.
Karen you being strong is the definition of being a girl. You are so strong sweetheart. As Beyonce says who runs the world? GIRLS!!!
Oh my G-d Karen triggers my protective instincts
Karen you’re adorable!! I’m so glad you’re feeling better and more confident now. You’re right! Girls rule!!
I really love your videos. I have a question though, when your head mates are in control do their/your (idk which one to use sorry) reading/ spelling levels change?
Yes, but not drastically. Everyone can write but Karen has trouble reading sometimes. She can still do it, though, especially if one of us is helping her from the inside. -Wyn
I’m wondering the statistic of children who were in cults or kidnapped and If they are more susceptible to DID.
I was so worried for Karen to come up front to share this but what a brave and strong girl she is. I hope all the positive comments could give her the acknowledgement and the encouragement she deserves.
I'm gonna say that Karen is one of the strongest people I've seen on youtube.
Anyone feel free to answer this. I'm a singlet who also wants to end the stigma against DID so I create characters and comics about characters with it, doing as much research as possible to make things accurate. My current system character has a persecutor/introject who has a silver tongue, manipulates everyone, and lies about almost everything. I eventually want this alter to have a redemption arc, where his ways of coping (the lies and manipulation ((tw: emotional abuse)) ) are addressed as no longer beneficial and he takes on a new role. My question is, how could this form of tw: emotional abuse help or fill a role an outside persecutor left? Right now I have it as he wants the host to lie to the people, rather than hurting them with the truth, avoiding them being mad at the host for said truth. How could this be expanded on for an introject? Sorry for the long question
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educational and well done, so brave of karen!
I cried bot gonna lie