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This feels like two parents whose kid finally started liking broccoli and they don’t wanna mess it up.
All their criticisms are fair but I gotta say, Ifrit & Phoenix vs Bahamut is probably the best gaming moment of the year for me so far and the Soundtrack goes so fucking hard
Start playing Ascension.
I agree. I was so hyped for the big summon of ff and they did not disappoint in presentation.
Nah, there's so much better stuff out there than this bombastic kind of whatever. FF games are just noise and nonsense.
@@cardboardtubeknightlike?
I kinda liked the typhon fight better
Connor in the middle of his JRPG redemption arc. 😂
He won't ever developed fully until he Accepts Turn based combat.
True RPG fans know both can exist in tune with one another
Ever play Parasite Eve?@@kai_824
@@kai_824 ff7 remake has like the most unique gameplay when it comes to mixing action with turn based
Sixteen's sidequests really start to get more interesting from the middle to the end, for those who care about the side characters and world building in general
True I was starting to worry that there wasn't enough banter or fun character interaction outside of the serious main story, but the second half of the game really does have more of that and I'm starting to really like the characters.
And fuckin dark especially the ones near the Royal Meadows
Rip Cole 😥
no they actually don't. if anything they get even worse towards the end because of the overwhelming amount of them, and the only ones that are actually quality are torgal, jill's and joshua's
@@PenguinsAreColdish Hm, I really enjoyed even the most silly quests 'cause I thought they added enough to the worldbuilding or just for establishing the mood in the hideout, fetch quests really don't bother me that much if I'm even a bit invested in what the NPCs have to say. May be just me though.
the sidequest: "Get up chloe, i didn't make you do too much magic"
honestly there are sidequest and sidequest names that have just make me crack up, the chocobo sidequest sounds like it's straight up out of an 80's flick with the bandits saying and i quote "You aren't have seen the last of us Feathers" like i genuinely found some of them lore expanding and straight up hilarious, especially the final one. that messed with me.
8:21 side quests were for world building a lot of the time. The pick up dirt quest I think was for growing that apple tree in blighted soil which they thought you couldn’t do. And that idea of being able to survive even in the blighted world was symbolic of humanity’s surpassing of ultima’s race. With ultima and his people just wanting to run from the blight instead of dealing with it.
no spoilers but theres a continuation for that quest later down the line and it REALLY hiits home just how much effort the people at the hideout are putting into the place. same for most of the hideout quests. also the side quests get far better act 2 onwards
lazy quest design is inexcusable, doesn't matter what "world building" was behind it. just look at bg3 or cyberpunk for an example of story relevant side quests that have world building and aren't generic fetch trash
@@PenguinsAreColdishthe ones that are like that tho take not even 5 minutes and if you hate them that much simply don’t do them there is plently if side quests out that show the world and the effect that the actions of you and other affect the world well also fleshing out the world itself it’s a amazing way to build the world and characters within
I absolutely loved FFXVI, its actually one of my favorite FF games and the best FF game since X in my opinion.
Really? You liked that the side content was just boring fetch quests?
I agree. IMO 16 is the best since 10.
12 and 15 were mid. All 13s were ass. 11 and 14 are in their own category
@@mattandrews2594 Yes, took me 77 hours to finish it because I literally did everything in the game. The side quests are well written most of the time, it's just that most of them feel like fetch quests true, but that doesn't make the game bad, literally everything else about the game is amazing in my opinion, the gameplay and the story are just very well done.
@@mattandrews2594I liked that they were really quick. Meanwhile in previous games, you gotta go all over the place and do a billion different things just to get the same result (a reward and a little dialog/world building).
I liked it but didn’t do all the side quests. Based on what I’ve played I would rank them: 9, 8, 7, 10, 16, 13, 15, 12
Cid quickly became a favorite character of mine. Gah, that gravely voice
I'm only about 30 hours in so I hope that my little gripes go away soon but besides the fact that the combat is WAAAYYYY too easy, my biggest gripe is definitely the fact that there aren't many scenes for the characters to just talk about random shit or do fun activities. Like, I don't need a whole Christmas party scene but damn dude it's just all business all the time. What little scenes we do get of people just joking around and hanging out are great but there aren't many. Like Garnt said, those little moments with the characters are what make JRPG parties so fun to get invested in. I still absolutely love the game so far though. The story is engaging, Clive is great, the gameplay, though repetitive, is fun but like I need more silly stuff here and there for me to really care about the characters.
EDIT AFTER A LITTLE PAST THE GAME'S HALFWAY POINT-
(SPOILERS) Now that I'm past Kupka's boss fight and I just finished a bunch of side stuff after helping Mid with the start of her ship, I gotta say I'm happy the game has opened up a little more and given some genuinely good character interactions. Started to really like all of the characters and not just Clive. That being said, I still wish I liked the rest of them a little earlier but better late than never I suppose. Hope the rest of the game keeps this going and gives more fun side stuff and character interactions!
I wouldn't say the combat is easy unless you use timely accessories; the S-Rank Hunts are definitely a blast and more challenging.
Agreed. Combat is dead ass easy to the point it got repetitive. While definitely fun, the combat doesnt flow well together like dmc.
Beat the whole game without any of those assistance items. Found the battle easy with occasional difficulty enemies. I probably died in total 6-7 times during my playthrough. Apparently the new game plus mode is difficult but I can't confirm since imma take a break before I try it
@@andyzhu2880 Ehh idk I'm in no ways very good at action games or anything but I don't use the timely accessories and I seriously haven't had to use a single health potion so far. That includes all of the side stuff. Still fun don't get me wrong just a little too easy
@@darenh355 If you want an undeniable challenge play ultimaniac mode in the arcade NG+ with a no will-o-wisp or Zantesuken build and you will be forced to see how the combat absolutely has way more depth than people give it credit for. The only negative is that it is an arcade only mode, but in a way it is understandable because the challenge would be hard to keep reasonable for an entire playthrough mode. But if they could've made a playthrough mode between Final Fantasy and Ultimaniac that would've been the perfect blend.
While i do agree with the side quests being a little lack luster, you do have to remember that this is CBU3's first single player game. I believe the fetch quest design is a remnant from XIV and that they'll improve them a lot if they get to make XVII.
The final side quests right before you head off to the final boss are great though.
@@XenoSamurai there are some really good ones here and there but i'd bet most people haven't even seen them because the early ones are so bland
the whole game is just an offline FFXIV lol
I really liked the cutscenes, but I agree there were times where I felt like I "played" the game for 2 hours, but only actually fought anything for like a total of 10 minutes of that 2 hours. I found the story to be amazing, but there were certainly times where it felt like I wasn't really "playing" the game at all, and I know it was a very story-focused game, but still. They gotta master that balance in the next one.
Connor...enjoying cutscenes?!
What timeline is this?!
The active lore system was a great feature, it makes easy to understand the story and the context behind the scenes, its definitely a feature they should keep in future games
it's essentially a worse ff13 database. it has less information, it's disorganized, and it interrupts the flow of cutscenes
@@PenguinsAreColdish How does it interrupt the flow of cutscenes? You choose when to open it yourself.
because it will often change what's on the ATL if you dont do it mid cutscene. happened to me several times, this is why the ff13 system is better. you can look on the fly anywhere, but people like to pretend they innovated with that stupid shit
@@goldilocksguy5170
didnt they only play like 1 or 2 hours of it or just the demo?
I loved it. The ending was super emotional for me and memorable
Idk but having te opportunity to play in the middle of cutscenes s the reason why I love ff 16. Also I love Clive so much, idk why Garnt haven't found a character that sticks with him. Well, besides FF 6 and 12, this is one of my favorite FF
I want them to talk about the game again once they've finished the main story
It started with FFVII where the cutscenes were like a reward for the player for reaching that point and they were much more distinct from the game itself. XVI blurs the lines between cutscene and interactive part and it does need some mental readjustment. I loved XVI much more than I thought I would, as a player who laments the loss of turn-based and ATB mainline FFs.
There’s no way!!! I remember I did a side quest where some noble kid was literally killing off his slaves with the animals he has, like it was the Purge, but it began looking like he was a child in danger and in need of help.
Tbh the story had me so engaged I couldn’t look away, i was hooked (Gav for me was a personal favorite) and the lore button was such an amazing detail that helped flesh out aspects I normally would pull up a wiki for. But the quest’s definitely get better in the end and really flesh out the characters before the end. After XV having great characters but a lackluster game XVI was such a breath of fresh air.
The side quests at the start are kinda basic, but near the middle of the game they get really good, still there are some that keep being basic, but many others really expand the world and the relationship between the characters, the one about the little girl trying to find Chloe really stuck with me and was the first one to do so, after that they get better, like the Quinten ones near the end, and of course any about the main cast. Also there are some basic ones at the beginning that you don't really get the importance of them until much later after doing other quests in that questline, like the one about getting dirt for the apple tree research. Still, flaws and all it's my favourite game, managed to mix many elements I always dreamed that could get together so it feels like the closest to the game I've been wishing for my entire life.
People saying turn based is outdated and yet play Yu-Gi-Oh and Magic:The Gatherig their entire life.
It works for a card game. But not action. Watching people stand there, taking turns, taking hits is dumb.
@@hazelcrisp I guess chess and tabletop games are for dumb people then.
@@Luso1221 I didn't say it's for dumb people. I said the concept is dumb. Who enjoys watching characters stand in place taking attacks, when in cutscnes they can easily move out of the way.
@@hazelcrisp Final Fantasy games are not traditionally action games. They're RPGs that came up heavily on turn based mechanics.
Turn based games still have a place. Octopath Traveler 2 is a great example of an amazing modern turn based game.
Also Pokemon and Persona.
Final Fantasy 16 is my game of the year for 2023
I had no idea that Joey and Garnt played it as well. Only saw connor 😅
Im a FFXVI enjoyer that's all. I loved it, its not perfect but it was a good game that I would recommend any newcomer or just anyone to experience at least once especially if you're a story game lover.
It's hella good. love the cutscenes love the gameplay love everything about FF16 honestly
There we're definitely some lulls in the pacing around the start of Act 3. I think it was just hard to keep the momentum up after the bahamut fight, but i'm glad I pushed through because the game does have a satisfying conflusion. It is definitely the best of the more recent FF games of the last decade.
Some side quests were amazing to me. They nay not flesh out the main characters but they really flesh out the world e.g the kid who see's mages as disposable pets really shows how hated they are.
Also Cid is really cool.
Side quests in FFXVI offer amazing world-building and they do get better towards the end. Both in story and in gameplay.
I'm 20 hours in and the side quests are a mixed bag. On one hand, they really add to the world building and you learn a lot about the people you're protecting in your home base. But on the other, they all just feel like "go here and fight" quests, so if you're not keen on the combat it's not going to be fun.
Also, I love the combat, but the game feels a bit too easy at the moment. I haven't died yet in this game, which is wild. Ni No Kuni 2 was more challenging even on its normal difficulty than this.
The only times I've died in the whole run were when I got a bit too greedy against hugo, vastly underestimated a 12 level difference, and not knowing that the final boss has a OHKO move
Should be like half as many sidequests and better paced throughout the story rather than dumping like 30 at the very end of the game
@shadowsenpai2395 Agreed. I did them as they came and didn't mind it, but I ignored them as the game went on for like 2 chapters and now there's too many on the map
I wouldn't worry about understanding the lore straight away by the end you'll understand everything
In this game, I genuinely experience the passage of time. The lore is so captivating that I crave more, even after the release of the downloadable content.
I just bought it after the demo and the cutscense example is valid...the gameplay is fun tho and I'm looking forward to it
FF16 is my current Game of the Year, flaws and all. I loved the combat, the story even with the sudden change from the politics heavy narrative to a traditional RPG as the actions of the protagonists still affect the world in regards to the culture of Valisthea. Beautiful art direction and visual fidelity, incredible music. And while the side quests mechanically are lackluster, especially at the start, the writing is great as it really adds a lot to the world. And the English cast does an impeccable job playing their characters. 9/10 game, I love it. Just wish the performance mode was more stable at launch outside of combat.
what other games have you played this year
Its criminal that it didnt even get nominated for GOTY. I knew it wasnt going to win but i just wanted to hear its part in the orchestra so bad 😢
@@PenguinsAreColdish FF16, Baldur's Gate 3, Zelda TOTK, Street Fightet 6, Mortal Kombat 1, Spider-Man 2. Just a few names off the top of my head.
@@arllyfat_cat9678 you have peculiar taste
I just finished the game and I can say for certain that it's a great gateway for getting people interested in the series. It's not perfect, like the boys were saying with side quests and cutscene-gameplay cuts but its still really damn good. The combat itself was enough to draw me in, couple that with a pretty good narrative, a decent set of characters and the great voice acting makes for quite an awesome game
The side quests are underwhelming for the most part, but then you get one about a girl looking for her toy and... man
I agree about the sidequests so far. They tell you about the characters that aren't central to the story. But the primary cast doesn't get much development out of them.
Once you play farther in, you'll see what each side quest is important. Honestly the world building is top tier. It feels like too much at the beginning but it all comes together and you realize that each thing you did had purpose
@SpyroShurtagul I understand how the side quests build the world at the moment. They just seem a little mundane. Good to hear that there is more to it a bit further in. :)
side quests get more interesting later on. some of the back story for the side characters is better explained in side quests than even the main quest
My favorite FF since FF10 ngl
I think it's the type of FF game Connor would like a lot because it doesn't require any grinding and the combat is real time action.
For those who haven't played it because it's very different than most of the other FF games, I still highly recommend it, extrenely good game even if it has some imperfections
It was my favorite FF games since IX.
I like this side focus on games, especially final fantasy!
There are a few interesting side quests, but most of them are pretty bland. But I also feel the need to do them for the rewards like renown, ability points, and items. Every time I’ve taken a break from the game it’s been during a large side quest stent where I’m doing like 4-8 side quests in a row. So I’d agree that side quests are probably the weakest part of the game.
The cutscenes though, especially with the Eikons can truly be gripping and climactic. The game can certainly give you the two extremes.
Hearing that Garnt is 20 hrs in is rather telling. I feel like between the 30-70 hour mark was rather mundane + repeative with some amazing bright spots.
How was the first recommendation not final fantasy 9 😢
it's my first FF and is one of my favorite games ever.
If only the gamplay was more complex this would've been an easy 10/10 game for me
Story is pretty cool
I love ff16 but it definitely has a lot of issues and I completely understand why someone would think it's mid or just flat out hate it.
FF9 is not only my favorite final fantasy but my favorite game of all time
These dudes don't realize the game is 70 hours long
60hrs being cinematics lol
@@erk8520 Well that's a lie
which is a huge reason why the game lost its massive potential of being a masterpeice
I loved ff16. I played them all and i love dmc.
RPG doesn't have ENOUGH cutscenes.
I have two main problems with ff16.
First one - the game has interesting world, lore etc but in the end (small spoiler alert I guess) we end up wirh standard jRPG where we have fight with the god at the end. All that politics don't really matter in the story. It is a shame because at the begging in the prologe it looked like we might have really interesting villan but that was just red herring
Second one is the combat system. It really had potential but it felt too easy. I died maybe 4-5 times in the game and mostly in the begining when I was still learning tactics and basic combos. Some challange would be appreciated so we could put that system to the test. One more issue diarrhea Christmas light syndrome. Bosses and our character have many special attacks with many special graphic effects. For most of the time we can't see the boss or our character. I'm attacing, evading and doing special attacks but honestly I have no idea what is going on.( and despite this handicap those bosses were super easy)
Agreed. Especially the first point. Dropping the political and grounded aspect after it’s been built up for the first half of the game was just very dumb. And I didn’t like how it was replaced with standard rpg shit
And to add on to the 2nd point. The combat was really barebones imo, I’m really surprised it’s a combat system created by the dmc combat director Suzuki. Ig it’s my fault, but I was expecting an in depth combat system to the extent of dmc4 at least.
@Nerex27 I agree with you. I’ve never played DMC, so i can't respond here.I mean, ff16 system is really barebones, as you said, but I think it has potential. More combos for basic fighting with sword, some combinations with Eikons( we can have 3 at any time. Why is there no combination or some synergy while using them?), get rid of a dog( what is a purpose to him? Besides looking cute) and some challenge so we can use this system/ more variety to enemies, so we have to use different tacticts to defeat them and put the system to the test
The game always felt like a big lead up to facing off Ultima I don't know why you thought otherwise, and most of the political stuff was just Ultima's doing behind the scenes.
The game isn't meant to be hard first go around all the difficulty is NG+
@@Nerex27difference between FF16 and DMC is that DMC is an action game first and only, most of its time was spent perfecting the combat whereas FF16 there's still the world, cutscenes and cinematics to do not just the combat even then the combat is way better and interesting than most other games like GOW and Spiderman
@@pticu1 Torgal is critical to making this games combat as close to flashy as DMC's combat. Go into training mode and learn the Sic timing for Torgal to really opening up the games creativity
Have they actually finished any game in recent years lmao?
I feel like he reason FFXVI doesn't have these bombastic characters you get super attached to like other JRPGS (outside of the one Joey mentionted) is because XVI's cast doesn't really feel that fantastic. It's the first FF cast that feels like they are real regular people in a fantasy setting. Clive, Jill, Gav and everyone at Hideout can fight these big threats but it's like you could meet any of them somewhere, as opposed to Cloud Strife, Cecil or Terra.
And that's far from being a bad thing. There's two scenes that made me cry because of how real their relationships feel and how well their actors brought these characters to life. In specific one scene where a group of characters reunite with someone after a long time apart, and one scene where Torgal takes Clive to see something.
ff6 is the culmination of all SE experience with 2d systems, but ff7 8 and 9 are in a whole new level even when feeling unpolished in a lot of ways
Go do some S - Rank hunts if any of ya'll find the game too easy and take off all timely accessories.
Everything you guys are complaining about is what I love lol
I loved 16.
My favorite Final Fantasy's are 4, 6... and Stranger of Paradise LOL
I played all the FF games and FF16 became second favorite FF behind 7 after I finished it. The combat was great, the story was fantastic, all the characters were incredible, even the the characters with less screen time like Lady Charon, Gav, Jote and Mid were all enjoyable. Masayoshi Soken went all out with the music (Garuda's theme was an absolute bager), Clive and Jill had an amazing relationship, easily the best relationship in the franchise and way better than Tidus's and Yuna's cringe and creepy relationship in FF10. Dion was the best written character in the game, The Titan and Bahamut Eikon boss fights were GOD tier, def one the best boss fights ever created in all of gaming. And I can agree that the side quest were the weakest part of the game but for personally, the highs of this game were so high that the lows weren't low enough to ruin my experience in any way. I also don't mind the long cutscenes because I love story heavy games. FF16 is a masterpiece in my opinion and I could care less what anyone else has to say because to me, this game is top 3 in the franchise.
The biggest gripe with the game is how easy it is, apparently you get a hard mode after you finish the game and idk why that wasn’t offered from the very beginning, the combat is easy to understand but difficult to master which I love, it does feel very DMC like and I’ve been able to pull off some incredible combos using the Eikon abilities, the Eikon battles tbh are the single most fun and incredible thing I’ve witnessed just incredible all around
unlocking a new difficulty after a whole run is very much a DMC holdover. My guess is that they weren't sure how hard to make the game and just erred on the easier side, leaving the hard mode for later. Balance between cutscenes and gameplay really needs to be tweaked tho
You unlock two more difficulty modes after beating the game. "Final Fantasy" and "Ultimaniac".
The latter is exclusive to Arcade Mode. You only have 1 potion and 1 high potion. You start from the beginning if you die. No quick retries.
The difficulty options are taken from DMC, which is like the best way to do difficulties. Most games that offer it at the beginning they only increase the enemy's hp and damage and nothing interesting outside of it, but in 16 and DMC, they change up enemy order like replacing earlier enemies with like a iron giant and auto scaling so you can't overlevel which you can only do by offering that option in ng+ after you've seen it all in addition to changing enemy AI
It's goated
I had absolutely no problems with how the cutscenes were handled in ff16 and its so weird to me that it bugged them. Though to be fair im not normally a final fantasy fan and im use to cinamatic games, the boss fights were the biggest highlight to me but the cutscenes are straight fire so they aint wrong lol
The Titan and Bahamut fights blew my mind!
@@XenoSamurai HELL YEAH! The two best fights in the whole game one after the other, i think i loved the Bahamut fight abit more but man they are both GODLY boss fights
What's not to understand about being annoyed that the game makes you walk 5 feet between cutscenes? It happens alot in older games and I find it really frustrating to see it cropping up again.
@@mattandrews2594 Its a jrpg it should really be expected to have alot of cutscenes, ff16 has plenty of gameplay segments that go uninterrupted, also none of the cutscenes are even that long and it seems weird to me that people complain about a story focused game trying to tell its story. Not saying it was handled perfectly but it really isnt as big of an issue they make it seem in my opinion atleast
@@TheCikoni Read what I said again. I wasn't saying having alot of cinematics was a bad thing. MGS4 has alot, and that's a great game.
still yet to play 16 but as a fan of yoshi-p and what he did for 14 i will be playing it as soon as i get my ps5
The demo was the best part of the game lol absolute snooze fest for me, personally. Also hated the combat mechanics, didn’t feel like FF at all. I want to be able to actually cast magic, upgrade my equipment, upgrade my spells, etc. 16 was a huge disappointment IMO.
I had the same opinion but i dont think the game had bad mechanics or story. FFXVI feels like Devil May Cry with a Final Fantasy world. It wouldve worked if it wasnt a FF game at all since it lacked anything that any FF had. Its basically an exact opposite of what FF6 was.
My biggest 2 critiques for the game is that side quests, which is essentially half of the game, are a boring chore and Ultima turning the epic GoT esque story into a 1 dimensional fight against a bad guy. The latter in particular disappoints me since the story could have been so much more engaging. The demo was a masterpiece.
The sidequests definitely fleshed out the world organically but I was still bored by it. I do agree that most of the side quests being the same formula - fetch, slay or talk requests definitely contributes to it being a bore but tbh, I've forgotten what else it could be. Thinking hard, I'd guess it would be things like card games from FF8? Blitzball games from FF10? Snowboarding, motorbike chases from FF7? Maybe things like that would keep it fresh but I think the actual issue is that I didn't care enough about any of the side characters to stay engaged. When one of the characters turned Akashic, I just shrugged.
I loved it
Dang the shade towards xenoblade 😢
better than 15, I felt it started really well and fell off at the end, that said the game design while playing is insane.
So as someone who literally just finished the game yesterday and has really only dabbled in FF (this being my first game to finish)... I definitely understand what they mean about the unnecessary walking in between cutscenes, etc. But I really disagree with the side quests not being important. Garnt talks about how they share characters you haven't "had enough banter with yet" but that's the thing. You get that with those side quests. And then they accumulate into being a HUGE part of the story and why the end and the entire moral is so friggin strong. You couldn't get where you were at without them and that's the point they're trying to make. You made these friends along the way that support you in their everyday roles and that's what makes you better. I'm sure they'll understand if/once they finish (which I hope they do).
But honest to goodness, this is now become one of my all time favorite games. I was so invested in the story and I friggin loved the combat (I hate turn based) and the character development is just phenomenal. What incredible world building.
I think Connor would benefit best from playing either FF7 original (personally i think its one of the easier Final Fantasies and has like the least amount of grinding/easiest combat system) or FF10 from story and voice acting along with actually the best combat system. Even though FF9 is what i think is peak Final Fantasy
I however recently beat FF16 and im....still a mess
I do agree, aside from maybe a total of....7 sidequests, nothing felt engaging and rewards were pointless (aside from the ones that actually gave you things)
As a avid FF14 player, you can see the MMO parts of 16 shine...specially in the sidequests and the main story
Surprised Clive didn't grip them like he did me...he's legit one of the better protags we've had in so long
I adored ffxvi, it's a great game. Some eikons fights are mind blowing like nothing else in this medium. Shame that the pacing is all over the place.
I wouldn't say it's all over the place, but some segments could be very jarring as momentum could be lost or gained too fast, especially in comparison to the more consistent and comprehensive beginning.
@@osmaniesquijarosa4308 the first 10-15 hours were a masterpiece but then it just became all over the place sadly, pacing is dogshit.
@@robyfaraa4105 That's a matter of personal preference tbh, I still found the story cohesive and true, hooking me until the very end, I enjoyed every second of it.
The only real problem in terms of "pacing" were the side quest's, and maybe one or two main quest's that broke up the flow and momentum of the story, but I personally paid no mind to them, as I also enjoyed the story in those for the most part, despite the lackluster gameplay in them, I just really enjoyed immersing myself in the game, for to me the biggest crime of this game was not getting playable/walkable hub areas of the big set pieces, such as Oriflamme or Rosalith.
@@osmaniesquijarosa4308 definitely a matter of personal prefence. Every game has flaws especialy with ff16 having a lot of them compared to other amazing games but at the end of the day it depends on the person
@@robyfaraa4105 oh yeah, it definitely has its fair share of issues, no denying it, it certainly departs from the FF series in terms of rpg mechanics or rather, its lack of them, but I still can't help but love it, the philosophy and it's presentation alone make it top tier for me.
Now play Baldur Gate 3 if you guy dare
I absolutely hate it when people keep saying that turn based combat is outdated! Have they not heard of Baldur’s Gate 3, Persona and Shin Megami Tensei.
Such a weird take about Xenoblade Chronicles, their voice actors are literally mostly from outside of the industry. And they're also all British with a few exceptions.
I put 16 down halfway through because the game never really felt like it was more than a waste of time. The active lore button isn't needed in games that actually have good writing. I'm shocked to see people liking a lore button that interrupts the cut scenes. This series won't learn its lesson. It's been not learning its lesson since 12.
Ff16 was my first final fantasy game (aside from 7 remake) and since beating it I’ve completed 15 and 10 and I actually much preferred those two over 16. I found the characters way more likeable
XVI is going hard on the Game of Thrones vibe and completely discarded the mold of what made JRPGs so unique, its characters and the goofy ass party members.
Nice, X is one of the best in the series. You should play 7 og. You’ve probably heard it before, but 7 remake isn’t exactly the same as the og, and it’s gonna be even more different with rebirth, the games kinda rely on the knowledge of the og.
7 og is also just probably the 2nd best ff game imo, first being 6 for me. but no matter what, they’re definitely the peak of the series
@@st.lucient4755FF going game of thrones isn't exactly new, FF tactics is even more game of thrones than 16
everyone I know gets offended when I say I like 15 more than 16 lol
I honestly don't understand the FF15 hate. No other game has so profoundly evoked an emotional response to two songs every time I hear them because of the story. Also Ardyn might be the only likable/relatable/justifiable antagonist in the entire franchise.
FF15 has some of the worst love story in the entire franchise, which says a lot.
BUT I like the story overall, I just hate how shafted the romance is.
@ZeroXSEED Didn't ppl actually ship Noct & Sarah from Terra Battle crossover? Really says a lot about Noct & Luna's. 😅
I don't hate 15. But dangit... it's got so much potential & it did not deliver as much as I'd like.
Love the music though. Yoko Shimomura saved it a bit for me.
FFXV is such a terrible mess of a videogame but at the same time... it's so damn good, I really like the game even with the heavy amount of flaws it has.
FF15 wasn't a great game by any means but the story and characters were so good, still make me cry a lot at the end. Also the music is legendary, hanging out with the bros in the car is relaxing and the fishing was surprisingly fun even though I usually hate fishing in games. The stuff I hated were the side quests, world exploration and Noct/Luna romance.
As a Day 1 XV player I think the easiest way to say it is Vanilla XV is a 7 at best, Royal Edition is a solid 8-8.5
Vanilla XV shines on its optional food and gear grinds and post-game, while Royal Edition cleans up the plot holes and missing additions.
l'm split in the middle with this game. I love the story telling and the cinematics this game offers and the battle mechanics was pretty fun (at the start). The Eikon battles are Jaw dropping (Hi Bahamut and Titan)!!!, but this game is also insanely bare bones outside of those high notes. Even small $15 indie RPG's offer more customization than FF16. Going from playing FF9 to this.... it just feels empty. The side quests starts feeling like fetch quests and becomes too repetitive way too fast.
Also, the game is way too easy that the battle mechanics suffers and becomes dull very fast (I was playing on Hard with no rings equipped). Hell, I don't even go to the shop, even if she only sells like 5 items. The items in the overworld all feels useless that I don't even bother picking them up (drops consist of the same couple of "crafting mats" you already have 1000s of, potions, very small amounts of gil, and items to sell for like 500-1000 gil. The game is still amazing, but it doesn't feel like a FF game sadly when there's nothing to do, which is rare for a FF title.
nothin can beat final fantasy type 0
Keep playing the side quests, you get exactly what you ask for even though they're boring for a while sadly
I really enjoyed the game, the only thing that I didn't like were the side quests. Alot of them are very generic and boring and it really kills the pace of the game. Towards the end of the game I stopped doing any of them apart from the ones that upgrade things
Also I think they could have let us play as ifrit more l, especially against the final boss.
My only gripe with 16 is that they took down the status effects and enemy weaknesses. Also i love 16 story more then 15, but 15 is in my opinion a better game once you realise the game doent play itself (they did a bad job explaining the combat system in the tutorial)and that the open world is explorable.
The only problem with 15 is how they tell the stories and lores(they have really great lores). For example Luna get almost no cutscenes and felt like a robot
@@Kenjaku508 ohh i hate what they did to her since in brotherhood it seemed liek we'll find more about her but no. I think probably somewhere in square's office there are just tons of finished cut scripts from 15. (Like i know dlc has angered the fandom but the 2 actual dlc i was hyped for was lunafreya& arenea .
Okay, so when are they making the mistake of playong FFXIV?
It’s a good game, nothing great, but it really is basically a character action game (and a too easy one at that) with so many RPG elements downplayed, leveling barely matters, exploration rarely yields anything valuable as crafting materials are so easy to find, skill tree is really basic, the dungeons are basically hallways, etc. Nier Automata is a perfect blend of character action and RPG, this is just Devil May Cry with training wheels. For my money, people can clown on Nomura all they want, he at least knows how to balance action and RPG equally with Kingdom Hearts and FF VII Remake.
Will Conner hate this story based game? I’ll find out. *clicks play*
I really wish one of them would play baldurs gate 3
Just got past the half way point, and I'm probably going to drop it sadly, everything about it could be better, it's overall mid sadly, I love FF IV, VII, IX, and X and Remake and Rebirth so I'm not a newcomer. Was excited for this game as I also love Devil May Cry (especially V and how much depth they added) the combat is waaaayy too shallow, I was expecting sooo many more skills and complexity, how is there not at least 3 sword combos for gods sake, it blunts the stupid design of waiting for cooldowns on skills, thankfully Remake/Rebirth combat was satisfying. When you play so many games you don't get sucked into the spectacle and just see the mechanics of those big summon fights, which are cool but not as much again as they could be if there was more depth
At least it doesn't play itself like XV I guess...
I completely disagree with Joey. I think FFXV is much better and I hate the way some content creators like Joey jump on the bandwagon of hate for XV with an almost dismissive tone of like "Well of course its better than XV."
I am with Maximilian Dood in that I think XV is the better game. And I think people trying to downplay how good XV is a shame.
Side quests are significantly better after the timeskip
can ppl stop saying this? this is like 20 hours in and they dont realyl get all that different like calm down
still is not good, look at witcher for example, the first few sidequests already tell the p,layer its going to be good and engaging.
16 started out good and promising but exploration was nil, the battles lacked RPG elements, the quests were bland ( talk to ten people lol) and locked spontaneity, and despite the voice acting being superb a lot of NPCs rambled on. The story had too much deus ex machina and lore baiting. Dions arc was awesome though.
While I love FF16, and it could very well be recency bias, but its up there as my favorite FF game because of the combat, the story, and probably the best romance in the entire franchise between Clive and Jill (actually Gav). However i gotta say the side quest are a little slog to get through at times and repetive, however they do eventually pay off in the end if you wanna flesh out the side characters. Heads up though, if you expect that this to be your traditional FF game, then you'll be disappointed
Don't you mean Cid and Clive?
@@ShellyYum nah man, Cid and Otto is where its at
For me my first ff game is ff12 and it holds a special place. Even though most would deny it its the best ff
Amazing Game in terms of action and production, the last part of the Game was lackluster though
For me the lackluster part was the middle, after the timeskip, there were many fetch quests, while I ended up loving the last few hours.
I thought trash taste was supposed to be ironic lol
this cutscene criticism is super weird from people who watch a ton of things, trying to control what amount devs have towards cutscenes is super weird as well
All 3 of them are trying so hard not to say anything negative about the game lol
the peaks were amazing but the lows were abysmal half of the game is literal fetch quests baked into the main story
Personally I'd say IX is the best in the franchise
FF16 side quests are either really good or really trash. There is no inbetween.
Over the past few years I have tried to get into Jrpgs by playing the most popular ones (persona 5, ffvii remake, tales of arise, ffxv and now ffxvi) but after playing ffxvi, I think I'm done trying.
They are just not for me.