House Martell vs House Targaryen (A Song of Ice and Fire)

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  • čas přidán 18. 11. 2023
  • ASoIaF lore between the Martell family of dorne, fighting it out
    with the Targaryen dragon riders
    Prince Rhaegar and Elia Martell art by - www.deviantart.com/denkata5698
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  • @Spongebrain97
    @Spongebrain97 Před 6 měsíci +174

    I always liked the irony of how the Martells were the Targaryen's biggest enemy for centuries but in the current story the Martells are their biggest supporters

    • @MyUserTubeAccount
      @MyUserTubeAccount Před 6 měsíci +2

      hmm, in what way is House Martell "Targaryen" supporters? ask Viserys or Dany if they felt supported?

    • @Spongebrain97
      @Spongebrain97 Před 6 měsíci +22

      @MyUserTubeAccount after Robert's Rebellion Oberyn immediately wanted to publicly support and proclaim Viserys as his king but was held back by Doran. Doran however still was heavily involved in the Targaryen Restoration in marrying Arianne to Viserys and then later adjusted for Quentyn to marry Daenerys. So even though those plans fell apart, the Martells nonetheless were the leading force behind Targaryen support after they were overthrown. An effort was still being made and actively plotted behind the Iron Throne

    • @donttalktomebye
      @donttalktomebye Před 6 měsíci +8

      @@MyUserTubeAccountyou read the books?

    • @MyUserTubeAccount
      @MyUserTubeAccount Před 6 měsíci +4

      @@donttalktomebye yea, i recall Doran trading no support publicly or privately to Viserys and Dany, and to wait until they got their army to reconquer Westeros, and in return for no support his daughter gets to be queen?
      i also recall him sending Quentyn with a very small retinue to Dany with the offer of Viserys and Arianne hoping to just change it on the fly to 'Quentyn and Dany' after hearing she has 3 dragons and an army of Unsullied? seems Doran is more interested in revenge against Tywin Lannister, the Mountain, and Amory Lorch than "Targaryen restoration"? they're no House Derry. if Doran wants to restore anything, it seems like Dornish Law, which Oberyn asked Tyrion about, and Doran left a book for Arianne to read up on.

    • @newportspapi7174
      @newportspapi7174 Před 6 měsíci +1

      House Baratheon were their biggest allies and now their greatest enemies lol

  • @AbhishekKr.Singh1609
    @AbhishekKr.Singh1609 Před 6 měsíci +94

    Unbowed,Unbent,Unbroken
    A warning to our enemies and a challenge to our lovers
    - THE RED VIPER

  • @sufianabuahmad7781
    @sufianabuahmad7781 Před 6 měsíci +41

    Still think the Starks and Martells should have teamed up against the Lannisters

  • @captainvalourous6668
    @captainvalourous6668 Před 6 měsíci +45

    I think Daeron II's marraige to the Dornish did not just put an end to the animosity between the Targaryens and the Martells but it also between the Blood of Old Valyria and the Rhoynar.

  • @NickonStark
    @NickonStark Před 6 měsíci +43

    Gotta give it to the Dornish. Unbowed, unbent, unbroken they’ve always been.

  • @redjirachi1
    @redjirachi1 Před 6 měsíci +27

    Aegon IV: Dornussy got you acting strange boy! Don't forget what they've done!
    Prince Daeron: By the Seven father, how can you say that without any self-awareness?!

    • @fmgmack
      @fmgmack Před 6 měsíci +8

      Dornussy 💀

  • @erikaheck8261
    @erikaheck8261 Před 6 měsíci +11

    “Through the power of Jesus Christ,” I laughed out loud 😂

  • @AnarchoCatBoyEthan
    @AnarchoCatBoyEthan Před 6 měsíci +21

    Yeah i love the martells and dorne as a whole. Very cool! I do think the sand snakes are a bit goofy, but god NOTHING LIKE THE SHOW. That was actual shit. Anyway Quenten in the book has a really interesting journey, and the Arianne chapters from Winds are SO interesting. i’m super pumped for their role in the winds of winter.

  • @celter.45acp98
    @celter.45acp98 Před 6 měsíci +11

    The guy who shot down rhaenys and her dragon was not a sniper just some random man at arms who got lucky calling him a sniper cheapens the name he didn't spend years practicing and honing the skill it takes to be one he probably used the scorpion a hand full of times before he was told to man it that day

  • @invincibleluis
    @invincibleluis Před 6 měsíci +6

    That dornussy is just too good aparently

    • @Skelstoolbox
      @Skelstoolbox Před 5 měsíci

      lo, sounds gross when you say it like that..

  • @noname77404
    @noname77404 Před 6 měsíci +1

    As always, great video!

  • @Sleepyhead_22
    @Sleepyhead_22 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Our words. Unbowed. Unbent. Unbroken. I love it

  • @lordjoker1369
    @lordjoker1369 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Why create I love you man you’re the best asoiaf CZcamsr ❤️

  • @Amantducafe
    @Amantducafe Před 6 měsíci +4

    I wouldn't call spoilers the only pieces of lore that we might get in this lifetime from the book that was promised

  • @MichaelMedici61W2
    @MichaelMedici61W2 Před 5 měsíci +1

    “Through the power of Jesus Christ.” 💀 😂
    As always awesome video D. Thank you for always trying to keep ASOIAF fresh and relative in the algorithm. I appreciate it.

  • @franlpk9587
    @franlpk9587 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Viserys and Quentyn would have been good pals. They are both screw-ups

  • @saljpal3
    @saljpal3 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Seems fitting that Dorne gave the most resistance against the Targaryens since the Royne also put up a strong resistance against Valyria.

    • @Wrestling4404
      @Wrestling4404 Před 10 dny

      Kind of sad that nothing was revisited in regards to Rhoynish water mages and their importance in defeating the old Valyrian dragon riders from Volantis the first time around, I mean they where able to murk 3 dragons just with a handful of water mages and man at arms, it took hundreds of dragon lords jumping them at once to push them out of Essos, wondering if it’ll be something the Dornishmen unlock once more since the return of magic to westeros and ASOIF universe as a whole

  • @AlexanderRodriguez-dd1eq
    @AlexanderRodriguez-dd1eq Před 6 měsíci

    Hope you can do one for starks and Baratheon

  • @812_Dthang
    @812_Dthang Před 3 měsíci

    Casually throw He-man in there as a Lord

  • @JoshuaHenelyThornhill
    @JoshuaHenelyThornhill Před 5 měsíci

    They always were true to their words : Unbowed. Unbent. Unbroken.

  • @SHARKVADERS
    @SHARKVADERS Před 6 měsíci +1

    WC!!!!!

  • @JoseGonzalez-pn5zl
    @JoseGonzalez-pn5zl Před 6 měsíci

    Unbowed ,unbent, unbroken

  • @DoktaVODKA
    @DoktaVODKA Před 6 měsíci +1

    Why Visenya was the First Queen, Yellow Toad would have met Dark Sister day one. If Visenya went to Dorne and Rhaenys went to the *Arie.

  • @lawrencereid2767
    @lawrencereid2767 Před 6 měsíci +2

    First to take the Black 🖤

  • @allenstevens4402
    @allenstevens4402 Před 6 měsíci

    The power of JC?

  • @narem1092
    @narem1092 Před 6 měsíci

    Through the power of who? 10:35 hahaha

  • @tarunsharma4915
    @tarunsharma4915 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Is it me or Dorne has solid plot armour? Where were they hiding the whole time? If each castle and keep had been burned, how do they stand to present storyline ? I mean, it's just confusing.

    • @defrary5569
      @defrary5569 Před 6 měsíci +2

      The most castels in the story have deep cellars or mines...

    • @darthlazurus4382
      @darthlazurus4382 Před 6 měsíci +10

      They did know the Dragons were coming. My guess is that everything was moved out of the castles tae hidden locations.
      Basically turning the castles and keeps into decoys.

    • @NotHere07
      @NotHere07 Před 6 měsíci +14

      They are Rhoynars. Their ancestors fought and won a 'few' wars against ancient Valyria. They know what they are doing unlike the Durandons, Lannisters, Hoares, House Gardeners.

    • @NotHere07
      @NotHere07 Před 6 měsíci +8

      Its not a plot hole or plot armor. Its just part of the plot.

  • @40oz82
    @40oz82 Před 6 měsíci

    Good vid except for the part about quentin being dead

    • @user-id7nk2yz9q
      @user-id7nk2yz9q Před 6 měsíci +2

      What made you think he was alive?

    • @40oz82
      @40oz82 Před 6 měsíci

      @@user-id7nk2yz9q the preston jacobs vid was pretty convincing

    • @joaquinjoaquin3992
      @joaquinjoaquin3992 Před 5 měsíci

      @@user-id7nk2yz9q theres this theory, some says he is alive

    • @mymaynee5963
      @mymaynee5963 Před 3 měsíci +1

      hes dead as hell

  • @antissocialblackcat2099
    @antissocialblackcat2099 Před 6 měsíci

    Why is He-man presented as Quren Martell lulz could have picked another image or shade the character. I cracked when I saw He-man.

  • @anacarolinalimatavares7928
    @anacarolinalimatavares7928 Před 6 měsíci

    ☀️❤

  • @norbix-od7rt
    @norbix-od7rt Před 6 měsíci

    well is Quentyn dead ???

    • @user-id7nk2yz9q
      @user-id7nk2yz9q Před 6 měsíci

      What made you think he was alive? What is your evidence?

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Always sided with the targs on this

  • @patrickjeffers7864
    @patrickjeffers7864 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Dorne > dem colonizers 😅😅