The Most DISRESPECTFUL Snubs from the 75 Greatest List
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- A breakdown of the most stunning snubs from the NBA's list of the 75 Greatest Players of All Time.
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Who are your top 3 snubs?
They should mention the top three snubs and the three they would take off the list
Dwight Howard, Tracy McGrady, Chris Webber
vince , klay , dwight !!!!
DeAaron Fox
Dwight, Dantley, and Vince.
Sidney is CRIMINALLY underrated. It pisses me off how he's so forgotten.
Frl they made the DPOY award because of him
if your nickname is The Squid you can play some defense at hall of fame level
pls dont start hating me. who is Sidney?
@@txcNexus Sidney Moncrief was a the star player of the bucks from the late 70s and early 80s. Know for his defense. Won defensive playe of the year x2 in 1983 and 1984. Was also Jordan's first rival as his bucks took out a rockie MJs bulls from the playoffs
@@yaelgarcia459 since he was mj's rival, he should have been on the list. My opinion and reasoning kinna seems way off. btw thanks for answering my question
Maybe because I'm a Heat fan I might show some bias, but I'm surprised Chris Bosh doesn't get enough mentions. An 11x All-Star, 2x NBA Champion, an Olympic Gold medal, recently inducted into the HOF, arguably has the biggest rebound and assist in NBA history that led to the Ray Allen game tying three pointer in Game 6. Also like Zo, a career cut short due to his health.
Considerations would be Joe Dumars, Bernard King, Chris Webber, Shawn Kemp, McGrady, Carter, Mutombo for starters
Of course Webber was not going to make it, he just got into the hall of fame after being left out for many years
Joe Dumars
I wonder why no one is mentioning Pau Gasol
Not McGrady, never got out of the 1st round
@@hanschristopherson8056 you think he had a strong enough case for the hall of fame? I don’t think he did.
Before I watch this video, I just want to say that Anthony Davis doesnt' deserve to be in the 75 Greatest list.
edit: I'd also like to add Damian Lillard, but to a lesser extent than AD who is, in my opinion, a real shocker...
I agree with you entirely
Most people should agree to this, but recency bias is a thing.
Street clothes
Same with Damian Lillard. I feel like they put players on the list based on their potential and not what they’ve actually accomplished.
Agreed
Mark price, Chris Mullin and Tim Hardaway also deserve a mention.
Mark Price is one of the greatest shooters of all-time and is one of a few players to have shot 90, 50, 40 in his career. Price was also a great point guard, passer, and floor general. He also revolutionized the way point guards attack pick and roll defense and perfected splitting that D with his extreme quickness.
Chris was on the dream team for God's sake. (Ik laettner was too but that was forced rule)
The Most DISRESPECTFUL Snubs from Jonny's video
Tim Hardaway is not even an HOFer
Warriors fan??
Gasol doesnt get talked about enough. Over 20000 points 11000 rebounds 3500 assists and 1500 blocks the other guys on the list are duncan KG and kareem.... and with spain he played even better! And paved the way for spanish and european players to make the jump to the nba. Such a legend in europe but somehow spanish players in the us are just considered SOFT and get no love....smh
Leaving Gasol off the list makes Kobe's '09&'10 B2B titles look all the more Herculean.
Based on 'help needed' the 75 list makes LeBron look rather pathetic in comparison.
@@shaft9000 dont see your point about Lebron and yeah thats true about kobe but he was the first one to say that there are no Championships wo gasol
I always like Gasol
Gasol dragged Kobe to one of his chips. The man went off, kobe still got FMVP somehow..
@@shaft9000 get lebron out your head lol. Try to have a conversation without involving the guy. He is still just a dude, kinda weird you lehaters live and breathe another mans existance
I'm just glad James Worthy is on there. He's one of those all-time greats that a lot of people now (especially younger people) act like never existed. Big Game James.
Of anyone in the list, Worthy sacrificed the most in terms of stats to earn rings and play with 2 legends, but Magic also described Showtime as a fist, five guys all working together to create a powerful punch, it wasn’t about Worthy getting preference over Kareem to dump 45 on the Nets, voters know this and that is why he made the top 50 and top 75
He was a freak!
Yeah hes worthy
He was also the reason Jordan made it to the college finals
Bernard king, Bernard King smh how in the world world is this man is never mentioned when hall of fame players like Magic, Bird,Wilkins,Barkley all said that he was unstoppable
the fact people seem to forget about Bob Lanier is a CRIME!
Bob Lanier is not in the top 75?
@@alexfarias5156 NOPE!!
Fill me in, am I missing something? He's only a 8x All-Star and, for the most part of his career, his teams were always struggling to make it above 500.
@@Humble_808 yeah he was a great player on a bad team. he doesn’t have any All-NBA selections because with Kareem occupying the first team, there was only one more spot. and he was fighting with the greats of the 70s. easy 20 and 10 guy with superb passing. a good jumper. productive on those early contending Bucks teams. criminally underrated. injuries derailed him but he was still a top 5 player at his peak. hell both the Pistons AND Bucks retired his number!
@@markjackson6431 filled in 👍
It always breaks my heart to see Alonzo Mourning on lists like this, because all it makes me think of is Larry Johnson. Johnson was one of the most incredible players I've ever seen. He could post up smaller guys with a real post game, he could take bigger guys off the dribble or just shoot a 3 over them, if they say off. He's was a killer in the fast break, and the man had boundless energy and you get see how emotionally invested in the game he was.
On defense, he couldn't necessarily lock down any player from any position, but he could guard every position. His incredible strength made him great against pf and C. He played well with other stars, had a great attitude, and seemingly endless talent. But then the dreaded back injury. It even took down Bird.
Johnson was extremely efficient.
Great, great player.
But, his prime was way too short. not dominant for nearly long enough. he would make the hall of 'good' not the hall of fame. amazing to watch when in his prime, though, cannot deny
grandmama
Mourning > Larry Johnson
I followed their careers closely. Mourning played much better defense.
Sidney Monchrief, Joe Dumars and Dwight Howard. Joe Dumars needs so much more love.
Go to Mars was a great defender, a great guy, a great statesman, and a great ambassador for the sport. His numbers just weren’t all that high like 22 ppg at most
@@Defender78 I think between his high tier finals mvp performance and three all nba and all defense teams place him even ahead of Tony Parker in terms of snubs
@@TheWolvesDen Yes
I would love the followup video, that shows who you would leave off the 75 greatest list. Praising what they brought to the table, but also what limited them and would keep them from entering the list. It would also serve to get to know legends in their own right.
Joe Dumars, former Detroit Pistons guard, was a snub from the NBA's 75th Anniversary.
Facts
Chauncey Billups, Marques Johnson, Dikembe Mutombo all deserves a mention
Definitely Dikembe
Sidney M
I don’t think marques Johnson is good enough to be on the list, but more people should know about him. Along with Sydney moncrief
None of them deserve a spot over any of the players in this video
@@kleatise52 people really should know about him more. He was Scottie Pippen before Scottie Pippen.
Tim hardaway, Chris Mullin, Dikembe Mutumbo, Chauncey Billups, Manu Ginnobili, Tracy McGrady, Shawn Kemp, Joe Dumars, Pau Gasol, and Chris Webber all got snubbed. Yet some how Damian Lillard made the list? Dame is my favorite current NBA player but he's not there yet.
Even when he retires he will never beat the impact in the game and the accolades of the players who get snubbed.
amen
Y’all just said the manu is over dame? Manu is only in the conversation cause he had a lucky situation and if dame had been drafted to the spurs in that era then he would have all manus rings some extra stats and maybe even more chips than manu he is just a better talent the other guys have a case but manu just was never that
@@danielmcintyre599 manu over dame by far bruh
You're not making any sense. You mention 10 players who you say got snubbed. Snubbed means they should have been on the list but aren't. But the only player you mention who shouldn't have been on that list is Dame. Come on man! Make it make sense!
I feel like there’s such a focus on team accomplishments when deciding ‘greatness’ and not enough focus on simply being the better player. At his best, T-Mac was absolutely incredible, but because he never achieved the team accomplishments of many ‘great’ players he gets disrespected.
That's why this is a 75 greatest list...not 75 best....If we we're talking about 75 best, all of them would've been players from 2000's and on, with some players from the 90's and 80's
@@Humble_808 I getcha. Maybe there should be more lists focussed on the best players ever rather than the ‘greatest’.
@Robert Spence T-Mac was bouncing teams with great player way before Lebron. He even tried to make a super tea, with Grant and Tim. T-Mac was just to injury prone and had a short career of greatness
@Humble maybe 10 from the 2000s would be on the 75 best. Since most nba legends with freakish ability and basketball iq were from the 80s and 90s.
I'm still surprised that AD is in the list of 75 greatest players of all time.
why is dame there
and why do they have a bunch of 60's randoms
Recency bias
@@builderdog3875 As homie said, recency bias. He really isn't better than most snubs.
@@TheChosenMoose01 what about the 60's randoms
@@builderdog3875 I get them. NBA put them there out of respect
You put Parker in there, but not Gasol? Mcgrady's a whole different issue
Bro have is a All Time Great Playoffs performer Rank 10 in all time playoffs points and 5 in all time assist and Parker had a much success in the playoffs than Gasol and Mcgrady and more over T-Mac perhaps individually T-Mac is better than Parker and Gasol but the problem is that Mcgrady has never passed the first round in the playoffs .
Pau, Howard,Parker instead Lenny Wilkens, Dave Bing, Pistol Pete... Paul George is better than T Mac, already 1000p more in playoff and is better shooter
Bro what are you on💀💀💀
Also yes those 3 are good but did you ever watch the other 3 play? I would say Pau, Howard, Parker over people like Dame, AD, and Paul George
@@lkmamaril Dude Lenny have 0 team selections and is not even 100ever.. Pistol not even 500playoff p with weak numbers in playoff...you have comparasion all 3 players Paul George beat already this is his 7 team selection
@@thefab0075 McGrady kinda went to the Finals in 2013 (if you want to count it)
For what a career Dwight had în Orlando u just cant let him out :/
Even his first year in Houston was pretty decent
He took a group of role players to thr finals and wad a top 5 player in the league til his back problems
@@eternallove4248 He also had good stats in LA in his first stint.
@@DreDaDon16 Hedo Türkoğlu averaged 20 pts and was a borderline all star for half a decade. Rasheed Lewis made the all star team that same year. And jammer Nelson was a solid starting PG and they had a deep bench. Stop trying to downplay his teammates.
@@jbond9637 *Rashard
Thank u for mentioning Dantley, Moncrief, and English! I subscribed just for that
I LOVE Lillard and one day he'll be acknowledged as an all time great, but putting him over guys like Gasol and Dwight is just plain disrespectful. Gasol was the second best player on two championship teams and before that he was a top 3 power forward in a league that still had Tim Duncan. Dwight individually carried a team to an NBA finals that had no business being there and was legitimately one of the faces of the league before he became a Laker. Forget team success, even individual stats and awards prove they've had better careers than Lillard. Before these past few years, he was barely making top 10 point guard lists and all star games. If the three point shot doesn't become the phenomenon it is today, I don't see Lillard becoming the player he is today. He would've consistently been under guys like Russ and CP3 his whole career. Hell, that's what it was before Steph introduced the world to 40 foot bombs.
Euro players don't get the respect they deserve
Kyrie Irving > Damian Lillard. Dame Is Tryna Be Like Steph And Shoot From Half Court.
I wouldn't even put Dame over Kyrie or Klay
Lillard is not better than Dwight but MUCH better than Pau
Pau was only good but not great. Definitely not a top 100 guy. Lillard has had great playoff runs while Pau got obliterated as the main dude in Memphis
Regardless of whether people want to admit it or not, Kobe is a top 3 player all time and Pau benefited greatly from his situation
Dude once Kobe retired Pau's career evaporated. Just look at his older Brother Marc who is a true #1 option and has had an amazing career as both "the guy" and a key piece to both Toronto's and LA's championship
@@jdrmanmusiqking Gasol was on horrible Memphis teams and playing in a tough western conference. Gasol is definitley at top 100 player
Its sad that we need to wait another 25 years to see this players be added on that list
I will be old 💀
Eventually they will try to patch up so many terrible picks that there wont be room for any new players
@@reidb6327 I will be dead.
If* we live to see🤔😂
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I would also add as other snubs Kyrie Irving and Mano Ginobili.
It’s crazy how rings accounted for the 75 list. Back in the 2000s most people would consider Vince Carter and T-Mac better than Paul Pierce and Ray Allen, yet the ladder make the list
Ray Allen was also the goat shooter before Curry came along, and Pierce carried the celtics for years.
Paul Pierce and Ray Allen were big time playoff performers and it led to winning so it should help them
It's a joke that Alonzo and d12 didn't make it. People don't know how much of a beast zo was before he got sick
Real ones know
I get to see his number in the RAFTERS.. down here in Dade County, we love ZO!!
As usual, Really enjoy your video jonny. Even though it's been late night in my country 😌XD. keep it up 😅❤️
For me, it’s Pau Gasol. People forget how dominant he was in his prime and how essential he was to getting his ring with Kobe
dude is the greatest grizzly of all time(unless that's marc idk) and isn't top 75??
crazy
Did you know Pau Gasol never won a playoff GAME before Kobe turned White Swan into Black Swan?
@@thsu8 I did not. But if you look at those Grizzly teams, you could see why
I agree, but I think Pau Gasol needs a mention. I think he is in a similar situation like tony parker. Also, he was consistent for many years and top 3-5 pw during several years.
As soon as I saw Damian Lillard's name on the list I knew it was a joke. The man has barely made an all star team and accomplished nothing of note in his career.
Great work as always bro!!!!
All I know is that Carmelo shouldn’t have made it
Good content as always alex English should have been top 50 let alone being snub from the top 75 list🤔 just plain disrespect
Alex English, Bernard King, and Adrián Dantley absolutely belong to this list. How can English not be there and Carmelo Anthony is in? Absurd. Non sense
I follow the NBA since 1978 and see many late '70s-80s being underrated (maybe due to the changes in the game)
Your videos keep getting better :)
Still going hard! Love your work brother.
Thanks Jack/Kiwi! haha. Good to hear from ya. Hope you're doing well bro!
for me it's Chris Webber he could do everything pass score rebound and could even dribble, averaged 27 11 & 4 in his prime and should've been an nba champion in 2002 if it weren't for Tim Donaghy well it's unfortunate he didn't win that year because then he easily would've been considered a top 75 player
Webber was a badass.
I'm a Lakers guy, and I was doing time close to Sacramento, so I watched a lot of Kings games from 2000 to 2007.
They were the best team that year.
The whole team was solid and in sync.
Being in sync is the kicker and the hard part when you're on a team.
As a Lakers guy, I was happy, but as a person who loves the game, it hurt a little to see them not get it.
It really did.
The Kings got snubbed of a championship and Webber has been very open about it. They wont let him on that list for the longest time.
That kings team were amazing. Princeton offense at it's finest.
Webber was great, but it felt like the dude was always dealing with injuries, whether they took him out of the game or not.
When healthy, he was good for 20+ points & 10+ rebs a night. He was a solid passer for his position, & pretty strong defensively, averaging something like 1.5 steals.
Just those injuries seemed to cut off large chunks of various seasons.
Facts Webber no doubt get played. He stacked up every night go ask Garnett Malone Duncan and Dirk about Webber. Go ask Shaq n Kobe about Webber wcf gm 6. We know who the real 2002 champs are. Shaq go put your 02 ring in the mail to Webber and stop playing
I can understand not having Ginobili in the list but how they didn't have parker in there boggles my mind.
The Nba dissrespect so much the international Player
Hey Jonny, you should make a video on the most important games/series ever. Like the games/series that had the greatest impact on player legacies and NBA history.
Great list! I’d certainly add pau gasol and manu ginobili to it
Agree 👍 Dame & AD , reallly
The euro step god, sad
If more people would appreciate defense, than Zo, Dwight and Moncrief would've been automatic.
So true and I'd include Ben Wallace too.
Moncrief is so underrated
Johnny you are my favorite NBA youtuber!
Thanks man! I appreciate you watching :)
I seriously can't argue against a single name on your list. D12 should have been there ahead of AD and Klay before Dame. I thought English, Moncrief, Dantley, McAdoo, and Wilkins were egregiously left off the 50 list.
I'm glad Nique and McAdoo got in, but those other 3 should be in too.
Johnny, it would be interesting to see you revise the 75 list by replacing some of the players who made it with those who you think should’ve instead.
Lanier for A.Davis; Alex English for Carmelo; Bernard King for Westbrook; Dumars for Harden; Dennis Johnson for Lillard; Kevin Johnson for CPaul; Moncrief for Payton; Jamaal Wilkes for R.Allen; Parker for Nash; Dantley for Pierce. How does It look like now?
Problem is there are so many great players, and a greatest list is subjective, so someone has to get snubbed
@PhDFlopping... you are correct, but at the same time there are some of the snubs are just too obvious. No way in hell does AD deserve to be in over Dwight Howard. It makes this list a mockery of the list.
Where is Manu Ginobili??!!
No hate to him but actually cannot believe Dame made the list when guys like Kyrie, Dwight and Klay didn't when they've easily had a better and more accomplished career
Agree.
It’s a travesty that the list largely look over defense
@john aldin alam That's pure FACTS! It is a slap in the face to all those two way players and to those Defensive minded players that won games for their teams just on their defense alone.
Top 5 snubs :
1. Tony Parker
2. Pau Gasol
3. Vince Carter
4. Dwight Howard
5. Alex English
TMac over Alex
@@builderdog3875 nope for a single reason - efficiency. During his best scoring years (99-2009) T-Mac had 43.5% on FG averaging 24.4. Adding 6 boards, 5 assists, 1.5 steal and 1 block per game. Solid stats.
Alex English had a best years from 78-79 season to 1989-1990 averaging 24.4 on 50.9%, 6 boards, 4 assists, 1 steal, almost 1 block.
T-Mac greatness was derailed by his injuries. If he stayed healthy he would surpass English. But judging both by their accomplishments I think its fair to leave those 2 as they are. If you find someone else to switch with T-Mac, fine.
@@bartomiej9807 TMac for tony parker then
@@builderdog3875 This is even trickier, because its not direct comparison.
First, you can search stats. What you have to look for is per36, as T-Mac in his best years was 6 minutes longer on the floor than Parker. Per36 will make it more comparable.
Then its another fact, that T-Mac was primary force in both Orlando and Houston, except that 1 season when Yao and T-Mac were both healthy. Parker on the other hand was surrounded by great or HoF caliber players. So if you put him in another franchise and give him a free hand he could inflate his stats the way Westbrook does.
Another fact is winning. You can't say it was Parker alone, he was in a system that was utilising best of every player. Still he was named 2007 finals MVP, having prime Duncan and Ginobili at his side. This means he was impactfull and he did that when it mattered. As Jordan would not win without Pippen and rest of the crew that San Antonio would not win titles without Parker.
I really like T-Mac, his flashiness, his 13 points vs San Antonio, his comments on TNT now, but IMO you choose wrong again. I would defend Parker on that list for the reasons above.
Yeah when I heard AD I immediately was like “how about Mourning?”
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Dwight Howard, Tony Parker and Pau Gasol. Also, Manu Gibobili, who was a beast, is vastly underrated and at least deserves to be mentioned among the snubs.
I see prejudice when it comes to foreign players, I might be reaching🤔🤔🤨🤷
Manu Ginobili is the most underrated player in the entire professional sports history. He is one of the top 10 all time and the best player in the world when he is at his prime.
I haven’t heard anybody mention Yao Ming😢
My top 3 snubs are: Dwight Howard, Tony Parker, Pau Gasol.
I would take away Damian Lillard, Anthony Davis and Lenny Wilkens to put them in.
Agreed
tony parker above lenny wilkens? Thats tough. DH above AD, yes, can see it.
@@lanceworthey4746 Yeah, it's tough to take any of the 50 original players, and I get why the NBA didn't do it for it would have been quite distasteful for the diseased. But compare Lenny Wilkens' and Tony Parker's careers as players, I would take Parker's anytime. Then, if you take in account coaching & implication in politics or social activities, Wilkens can't be removed. I would then take away DeBusschere or someone else of that era. Parker is still top 10 in points & assists in NBA playoffs history!
@@lanceworthey4746 TP9 over Dame. PG vs PG. If you are not convince go and watch 2014 WCSF series between Spurs and Portland and comeback and comment to this thread.
@@ZekeAizaSayZiaLeon oh man, im well aware! but thats as much to do with who's around him. Dame dollar has done his stuff with no-one. TP had a whole cast. Thus the nod from me. 18/5/2 good solid numbers though
Love the respect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You should make a video with 75 new all time greats. That would be interesting.
I know you mentioned it in the list but the fact DWIGHT of all people was left off this list drives me crazy. I would really like to see the voting process and understand how close he was too making the list. Because I can think of atleast 7-8 guys that shouldn’t have made the list ahead of Dwight. Regardless, great video as always!
He’s not a winner. He doesn’t belong
@@El_Bueno define winner? Because he has an nba championship, he took an Orlando magic team to the finals, has multiple DPOY awards among other accolades. He’s sure as hell more deserving than some of the names on here
@@El_Bueno he's hardly been in demand, either. Except as a role player.
Jonny knows his shit straight up-and-down 💯
Wince Carter, Tracy McGrady, Dwight Howard
Vince*
What is your thought about Kyrie? Did he also worth for a spot as well?
He could, but I think other guys deserve it more. I’d like to see Kyrie achieve a little bit more.
Other guys like Chris Bosh, Jimmy Butler, Marques Johnson, Artis Gilmore & Mark Aguirre deserve a mention too. Plus there are a lot of other guys missing. Goes to show just how many great/underrated players in the league there have been. And this doesn't even really take into account players who had injury issues.
Yeah no one has really mentioned Bosh, who deserves to be on the list instead of Melo
You should do a video about the greatest ABA performances by a single player. Dr j February 14 1975
63 points 23 rebounds 8 assists
Waiting for this vid since the release of the list
For me it's Dikembe Mutombo, Ben Wallace, and Dwight Howard.
As much as I love VC (hes actually my favorite player of the 2000s) his longetivity is a big component of his legacy. Johnny himself in another video gave the edge to T-mac pound for pound. Tmac was just the better complete player. And if you knock Tmac for his shorter career, then why the hell is bill walton on the list?
Very simple Bill was a way better basketball player than T-Mac, a MVP and Finals MVP, if T-Mac accomplished that he would be on the list,
I guess I must be blind, because I didn't see either T Mac or Walton playing good enough to be in the top 75.
But then Again, there are other players on the list who shouldn't be there either.
Bill is in because, even though he had a short career, he managed to acomplish a lot in those years. MVP, 6th man, 2 rings, 2 all-nba teams, 2 all-star teams, 1x finals mvp, 1x rebound champ, etc...
@@Humble_808 and fair or not, his UCLA career isn't forgotten, either. I know it's NBA but, just saying.
Chris webber would honestly be in the top 75 if the refs didnt throw.
I'm a huge Mavs fan, but I am shocked to see such crucial #2's like Tony Parker & Klay Thompson not make the list...
There are other players that have achieved less success, team-wise or individually, yet they made the list. Same with years in the league, so Klay's 8 years shouldn't be an issue (Mikan played 7).
I get 3 point shooting has warped stats a bit, but these guys have been All Stars on dominant, mult-championship teams.
What a difference a year makes. The Joker didn't even make the snubs list and now its criminally insane he wasn't in the top 50.
I take Shawn Kemp, Jermaine O'Neal, Tracy McGrady and Vince Carter over Dame, AD, Westbrook amd Parish
I have to say Allen Iverson, his game speaks for itself. Then Tracy McGrady, he could accomplish anything on the Court. Seems like he stopped playing with interest after a while, teams was heavily unequal then.
In my opinion Walt Bellamy is one the biggest snubs ever, even on both top 50 and top 75 lists. He is a 4 time all star, has most points as a rookie besides Wilt Chamberlain with numbers of 31.6 points per game and 19.0 rebounds per game on over 50% from the field, has 6 seasons over 20 points per game, while shooting 51.4% from the field and he is also one of the most underrated rebounders of NBA history with avarage of 13.7 rebounds in his career and in his 14 seasons he avaraged over 10 rebounds in 12 of them, through his 13th season he had an average of 9.6. He was snubbed multiple times to become an all star because center position was stacked with guys like Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell, Nate Thurmond, Willis Reed, Zelmo Beaty and many more of them. Like how the hell a guy with avarage of 23 and 16 isn't an all star? 😀 These numbers KG had in his MVP season, i know pace was so much faster back then, but not being an all star with these numbers are insane.
Besides him David Thompson, Gilmore, Lanier, Moncrief, Howard, T-Mac, Carter, Jokić, Rose, Parker, Ginobili, Ben Wallace, Dikembe Mutombo, Joe Fulks, Webber, Heinsohn, Mourning, Dumars, King, Dantley, Dennis Johnson, English are some of the snubs too.
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@Jonny Arnett
You also missed these guys:
Neil Johnston
Cliff Hagan
Walt Bellamy
Artis Gilmore
George McGinnis
Tracy McGrady
Joe Dumars
Dennis Johnson
Players mentioned in the video:
Dwight Howard
Alonzo Mourning
Adrian Dantley
Vince Carter
Tony Parker
Klay Thompson
Alex English
Sidney Moncrief
As you asked in the comment question: "Who are your top 3 snubs?" in no order:
1.Neil Johnston/Dwight Howard
2.Joe Dumars
3.Adrian Dantley/Alonzo Mourning
Although I put the slash marks there b/c depending on if you value offense more or defense more. Joe Dumars was a more complete player on both sides than Neil, Howard, Adrian, & Alonzo. Also as good as Moncrief was those 2 seasons he shouldn't have gotten them over centers & power forwards. Such as Robert Parish, Moses Malone, & Mark Eaton. Overall he had the same defensive impact as Bill Laimbeer, Tree Rollins, & Bobby Jones. So his DPOY awards technically aren't the same as Robertson in 86 & MJ in 88. Or Leonard's arguably. The 82-83 DPOY should have gone to Moses Malone. Also the 83-84 should have gone to Mark Eaton or Moses Malone.
Ginobili was a snub as well
*Thank you for giving Alonzo Mourning his due.*
Great list.. I would ad Bernard King and Tracy Mcgrady to that list
The biggest thing about making a "snubbed" list is to mention who are you taking out of the current top 75. It's easy to make a list of snubs as there are definitely more than just 75 players who were great in the long history of the NBA. To mention who should be taken off as we rank the top 75 would make it more interesting as it sparks discussions and hopefully a friendly and meaningful debate.
As someone who watched basketball all through the 90s, it’s interesting to see how the perception of some players has changed, compared to how they were thought of back then. In pretty much every instance, I agree with what people thought back then.
Guys like Alonzo, Rodman, and David Robinson are considered better now, but a guy like Patrick (who was better than all of them), gets much less respect today, than he got when he played.
Alonzo at his best, was the best 2nd tier center in the league. But those days belonged to Shaq, Hakeem, Patrick, and David Robinson.
Alonzos ascension into the top tier, only came after those guys (except Shaq) got old, but were never replaced with younger players with a similar skill set.
David Robinson got more awards (MVP, DPOY, All-NBA, All-Defensive), won more championships (2-0), had better career stats (pts, rbds, assts, steals, blocks) than Patrick Ewing. Robinson was thought of as better than Ewing then when they were playing (hence winning far more awards), and he's thought of as better than Ewing today.
No one ever thought Ewing was better than Robinson, not even close. It was always Robinson vs Hakeem as who is the best center back in the 90s. That was always the talk in the 90s when talking about big men.
No way is Ewing better than Robinson man. David is a better scorer, defender and rebounder
I feel really bad about the fact that they decided to include all the previous top 50 players.
I feel good about it
What annoys me is how they promoted it like it was a brand new list, and then it wasn’t. I think they just wanted to keep interest as high as possible, and being transparent about only a new 25 wouldn’t have done that
@@jonnyarnett I was affraid it would be a new list with too many new players, really happy they just added 25.
I think it would be a great podcast to rate the top 25 players whose careers were cut short by injury. Yao, Brandon Roy, Greg Oden, Grant Hill and Bill Walton head my list.
Great list. I’d include McGrady in there too
Hell of a list! I couldn't agree more. IMO Moncrief should've been on the original Top 50 list.
I’d definitely have Kyrie over lillard. All time, Kyrie is just a better offensive and defensive player and an NBA champ. I know you say Lebron got him that ring but if it weren’t for Kyrie stepping up, they would’ve lost. I honestly don’t know why lillard is on the top 75. same thing with AD
Zo’s resume is so stacked i genuinely don’t know why he wasn’t in there
I agree with all of these, especially Vince Carter and Dwight Howard. A few more snubs I'd put forth are Tracy McGrady, David Thompson, Bernard King, and Artis Gilmore.
I feel like Mel Daniels deserves a mention. He was a 2-time MVP, 3-time champion, 5-time All ABA, and a 7-time All Star. People often forget him because he played in the ABA.
sadly, its the 75 greatest *NBA* players in history, otherwise, yeah, should have made the top 50, much less 75
@@lanceworthey4746 The ABA merged with the NBA so ABA players and their accomplishments should count. Mel Daniels even played for one of the 4 ABA teams that the NBA added (Indiana Pacers).
@@BallerBrain Yet again just because they merged. It's still the NBAs 75. Not ABAs
@@cabriskus4700 I don't care what you say. ABA players should count. The NBA and ABA merged, so their history should merge as well.
@@BallerBrain Well whether you care or not. It wouldn't be logical
Dwight howard over AD, and Tony parker over dame for me
Alonzo Mourning’s kidney disease affected how people viewed his career… most people forget he was in his prime before the diagnosis finishing 3rd & 2nd in MVP voting in back 2 back seasons.
Dwight Howard, Tracy McGrady and Vince Carter. These three are considered icons, together with the shoo-ins like Lebron, Kobe, Duncan, Garnett, Dirk and Wade, of the NBA after 1996.
Alonzo Mourning
Look, I know CP is a excellent point guard in this era but top 75 all-time? I don't think so. I mean, how about Joe Dumars, Alex English, Walt Bellamy, Tracy McGrady, Tony Parker, Vince Carter, Chris Webber, Chris Mullin, Bob Lanier, Chauncy Billups, Marques Johnson, etc... ?There seems to be some bias in this list, c'mon now.
100% agree
Sure, chris paul though? No one you named had a better career. I dunno if its required to list all he has done but ill just test the waters with 10 all defence teams and is 9th all time in PER. A stat that is known to favour volume scorers and well, every player near him on the list is a volume scorer and his useage rate compared to everyone on the list near him as 2/3 of theirs (vaguely). I can go on but for now.. CP3 isnt one of the guys you should be focused on
Put the drugs down. 💉
Howard was a beneficiary of a weak era. I'm pretty sure that in three 90s he wouldn't be even a top 5 center behind Olajuwon, Ewing, Shaq, Mourning and Mutombo. Honestly I can't see a decade other than late 2000s/ early 2010s that he would be a top 5 center. And the second best was Andrew Bynum which says a lot.
I understand some hypotheticals but what i dont understand is when people take a freak of nature than suggest they couldnt play in other eras. Dwights a different combo of athleticism than any of those guys and bigger than most (overall size). Id argue he could use his capabilities more in a dump it down low league and would still be very successful. Yes he has less some less accolades such as DPOYs but he very well could have beennin the running and his points and rebounds and team success could shoot up in the same breath , not to mention he would have grown up in a different era thus learning different playstyle. I dunno, not every hypothetical is as simple as oh he played bums so he clearly not good
Bob Lanier and Walt Bellamy were also great centers in an era that were loaded at the center position. I'd rather have this centers over Dwight Howard.
@@ScottieDPOYY I'm not saying that he couldn't play in a different era nor that he wouldn't be successful. All I'm saying is that he wouldn't be a top 5 center let alone the best one. He was a very good player, although cast in a role that did not suit his talents best. And what it's more he struggle to accept a role better for him. I believe even he's defense was overrated - he got his dpoys because he got crazy blocking numbers. Although his spikes out of bounds were really entertaining, they were far from being three most efficient defense. And his offense was more than limited. Just a crazy athlete unable to utilize fully his athletic gifts.
@@andrzejkubiak1461 you reiterated my point for me. You dont know what he would have done as he never played in that style of ball which suits him. We agree lol. Maybe he is still getting blocks and high dunk numbers because he is indeed that athletic. Maybe all the guys you named cant contain him when he is urged to do what he does best. I just think you taking quite a leap here compared to some hypotheticals. What if he drafted to good team and wins a bunch lol
@@andrzejkubiak1461 yes and i clearly saying he could potentially be that. Your talking about a frwak of nature out into his own element. Maybe he is better than ewing or mutumbo or mourning. Maybe he is learning more post moves and defence to deal with these center, Maybe he is blocking more shots with people in there, you wouldnt have a clue lol. Even the dwight we seen clearly was a force and had strength. I dunno, hypotheticals can only go so far and this is a top 75 all time talk not top 10 centers if they hypothetically played each other
Growing up, my favorite team was the Boston Celtics. Of course they had Bird and McHale, I was happy to see The Chief on the list but I was disappointed that the late great Dennis DJ Johnson wasn’t on the list. He’s a 3x NBA champ, NBA Finals MVP, Basketball Hall of Famer, 5x All Star, and one of the best guard defenders ever.
tbh I'd argue that McHale and Parish as good as they were are only top 50 or 75 material because of Bird
@@-ac-8296 I would agree
@@-ac-8296 That may be true for Robert Parish, but it is not true for the tornado. Kevin McHale’s post game was insane.
@@-ac-8296 it's a factor. And DJ was great at Seattle and Phoenix before coming to Boston!
first person ive seen mention DJ, thank you for this
Anytime you try to put out a list like this, there are going to be great players left off. Worthless effort.
Kyrie's is the most blasftomous, but the media successfully impacted people's opinions on him hence why nobody talks about this snub, shame
In my opinion the only real snubs are Howard, Gasol and Draymond. Then, if you value 'specialists' (guys who excel at their role and can make any team better), which I do, I would add Klay and Ginobili. Afterwards you are splitting hairs honestly and about 20 players including those you mentioned in the video could have made it, but I wouldn't call those snubs.
I'd say Mutombo and Mourning for sure. Defense should be more well-respresented.
Sidney Moncrief, Dennis Johnson, and Bob Lanier
Russell Westbrook made this list only on stats. He has never been as good as Dame Dollaz.
DeAaron Fox
You're kidding right?
@@MaleviahBurned no
@@MaleviahBurned no he should easily make it
Good video. Klay getting snubbed will fuel him to continue to do great things. 4 chips and counting...
Bob Lanier, Bernard King, Connie Hawkins, Jo Jo White should all be on this list