Game Theory: Is Link Dead in Majora's Mask?

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  • @sircartelian
    @sircartelian Před 7 lety +1970

    R.I.P
    Navi
    1998 - 1998
    She forgot to WATCH OUT!

    • @Kingdom18Key
      @Kingdom18Key Před 7 lety +73

      and when Link tried to tell her to stay with him, she didn't LISTEN!

    • @scoutnova9213
      @scoutnova9213 Před 7 lety +11

      Nicmos_Space *pulls put gun* SAY HEY LISTEN AGIAN I DARE YOU (lol)

    • @theangrypotato2.031
      @theangrypotato2.031 Před 6 lety +6

      HEY LISTEN

    • @tonygamer5774
      @tonygamer5774 Před 6 lety +3

      Genericwhiteguy73 HEY

    • @crystalshamblin9240
      @crystalshamblin9240 Před 6 lety +3

      🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱

  • @GameTheory
    @GameTheory  Před 10 lety +7329

    So, now that I've tackled Majora's Mask, I have to ask...
    Ocarina or Majora?

  • @najiwav
    @najiwav Před 3 měsíci +426

    My first video I ever saw from Matpat. Thank you for everything, we'll miss you.

  • @willhayes7612
    @willhayes7612 Před 3 lety +2564

    I don’t care how many holes you can poke in this theory I’m always gonna love this video, the way it’s scripted and edited together gives me chills every time I watch it

    • @curtisleblanc5897
      @curtisleblanc5897 Před 3 lety +34

      Honestly, same.

    • @mysticxjuice6612
      @mysticxjuice6612 Před 3 lety +89

      I mean it's just a "theory" speculating is fun, even when it's not right

    • @everthon2457
      @everthon2457 Před 3 lety +12

      True

    • @mrlarvux
      @mrlarvux Před 2 lety +14

      All his theories are pretty much complete bull shut but also entertaining a lot of the time

    • @Pusfilth
      @Pusfilth Před 2 lety +5

      There’s no holes

  • @witchplease9695
    @witchplease9695 Před 8 lety +4075

    "You've met with a terrible fate, haven't you?"

  • @toraokami5178
    @toraokami5178 Před 4 lety +2199

    I laughed tooo hard at navi’s tombstone “she forgot to watch-out”

  • @aracuno8626
    @aracuno8626 Před 3 měsíci +101

    came back to watch this after matpat announced his retirement, man, this was great to come back to, I wish you the best Mat & Steph! And best wishes for Ollie and Catpat too

    • @Fish_maid
      @Fish_maid Před 3 měsíci +3

      Me to bro me to

    • @queenofthecapes
      @queenofthecapes Před 3 měsíci +2

      Same! Dunno why I thought of this one first, but here we are. :( Bets of luck, Pat-Family!

  • @the_black_fox9136
    @the_black_fox9136 Před 3 lety +505

    Ngl, this theory actually scared me when I was 8.

    • @soggysooponline
      @soggysooponline Před 2 lety +5

      Same here bud

    • @wyvrix5421
      @wyvrix5421 Před 2 lety +4

      FORREAL

    • @humansubject8638
      @humansubject8638 Před 2 lety +1

      Would’ve when I was six months. This video is nothing, I’m not being macho or anything it’s just not that bad. Are peoples fear tolerances less high where you come from?

    • @the_black_fox9136
      @the_black_fox9136 Před 2 lety +1

      @@humansubject8638 Now that I think of it, it Creeper me out more than scares me.

    • @ethansay6650
      @ethansay6650 Před 2 lety +2

      @@humansubject8638 I don’t think fear tolerance is based on where you live lmao

  • @GabrielDot395
    @GabrielDot395 Před 3 lety +782

    When he said "oh jeez" to Zelda on wheel of gaming. Little did he know about FNAF, the game that would take over the wheel.

    • @ameirgrant6116
      @ameirgrant6116 Před 3 lety +32

      Matpat went crazy with fnaf to the point where dude basically started writing the plot/lore itself

    • @joeewmm2294
      @joeewmm2294 Před 3 lety +7

      @@ameirgrant6116 ikr

    • @C0w_1nk
      @C0w_1nk Před 2 lety +1

      I don't think fnaf was made when this came out

    • @md.abulkalamazad6847
      @md.abulkalamazad6847 Před 2 lety +1

      @@C0w_1nk Oh 2014 this was 2013

  • @_simon.s_
    @_simon.s_ Před 5 lety +4948

    I think people forget the word "Theory" whenever they're in MatPat's channel

    • @normalminecraftgamer1643
      @normalminecraftgamer1643 Před 5 lety +216

      But hey, that’s just a theory, a real theory

    • @DemiAngel75
      @DemiAngel75 Před 5 lety +124

      Hey that's just a theory, a dumb theory that i presented as truth till the end credits, thanks for watching

    • @maplerose5468
      @maplerose5468 Před 4 lety +50

      Jojo Jesus Christ not everyone knows that’s okay no need to be an asshole about it you literally sound like you’re saying your better then everyone chill

    • @narwhaltitan8391
      @narwhaltitan8391 Před 4 lety +42

      It’s funny he hasn’t editted this video seeing as Nintendo came out saying that Termina is a physical place and that Link wasn’t dead or dreaming but rather there.

    • @monroe7532
      @monroe7532 Před 4 lety +33

      Jojo r/Iamverysmart

  • @sageoffire3964
    @sageoffire3964 Před 3 měsíci +42

    My introduction to Game Theory, PBG, and the larger Zelda franchise.
    This is truly the end of an era. And what a wonderful era it was

  • @basically_link
    @basically_link Před 3 lety +1060

    Sadly this theory has been proven false by Nintendo, but this was still one of the best theories they've ever made in my opinion.

    • @drdrew816
      @drdrew816 Před 3 lety +35

      Just wondering, how did nintendo disprove this theory?

    • @basically_link
      @basically_link Před 3 lety +177

      @@drdrew816 they said in an interview straight up that link was not dead in Majora's Mask. Don't remember exactly what video, but they were sitting on a couch.

    • @drdrew816
      @drdrew816 Před 3 lety +10

      @@basically_link oh right ok

    • @Jack_80
      @Jack_80 Před 3 lety +92

      @@basically_link maybe they just don't want to admit it because they later made more zelda games that contradict that. maybe at the time of mm they were intending to end the series and replace it with something new but then decided zelda is a guaranteed top seller so they changed their minds.

    • @skyriotAndKadeGaming
      @skyriotAndKadeGaming Před 3 lety +117

      @@Jack_80 link in mm didn't die because Twilight Princess Link is literally a blood relative to OOT Link meaning that Link from MM would have had to been a grown up and had a child
      He did die as a soldier later though, just not in Majora's Mask

  • @GameTheory
    @GameTheory  Před 10 lety +8506

    Theorists, it's dangerous to go below. Take this...knowledge:
    Click nothing, trust no one, and keep theorizing.
    We shall overcome...clickable virus links and bad portraits made of symbols!

    • @darth0kahn
      @darth0kahn Před 10 lety +8

      thought you where going to change mario

    • @saminabox
      @saminabox Před 10 lety +318

      Its dangerous to go alone here take this
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    • @loganwait900
      @loganwait900 Před 10 lety +45

      the wheel franchises possibly future episodes but thats just a theory
      a game theory..... uh theory yah ummm

    • @Rimalogo
      @Rimalogo Před 10 lety +38

      do one on pikmin and how they are realated to real creatures called ants and its history

    • @dowork723
      @dowork723 Před 10 lety +2

      I was wondering if you could do the theories around final fantasy viii?

  • @magthegreat0035
    @magthegreat0035 Před 4 lety +1742

    Who saw that buffering screen and thought the video was actualy buffering?

  • @miuiruma9760
    @miuiruma9760 Před 2 lety +166

    “When your a creepypasta fan”
    Ah yes hello Ben drowned

  • @lolman101.
    @lolman101. Před 3 lety +455

    Remember when PBG was a CZcams gaming giant?
    Good times

  • @dropatacoshell
    @dropatacoshell Před 4 lety +2040

    i added 2020 yall happy
    2013 - No
    2014 - Not Yet
    2015 - Nope
    2016 - Not There yet
    2017 - A Little Bit Closer
    2018 - Closeeerr..
    2019 - *RECOMMENDED*
    2020 - *KABOOM RECOMMENDED AGAIN*

  • @wannabe1me927
    @wannabe1me927 Před 4 lety +441

    Ben Drowned: You shouldn't have done that
    MatPat: well I already did.

  • @tiffanymcgrath4359
    @tiffanymcgrath4359 Před rokem +56

    9 years... The intro still slaps. Wow.

  • @yoavssj5893
    @yoavssj5893 Před měsícem +6

    My very first game theory, had to come back here after Mats retirement...

    • @M3ltedNikhowaz6426
      @M3ltedNikhowaz6426 Před měsícem

      Same here dude.

    • @oogeth
      @oogeth Před měsícem

      same... sparked my love for zelda, gaming, and theorizing.

  • @Prospero19
    @Prospero19 Před 4 lety +584

    Mat, I just want to say thank you. I first found this video when I was in a state of grief. I had lost my little brother in a car accident and I was myself going through the five stages. This video actually helped me during that time. So thank you.

  • @Towel-Man
    @Towel-Man Před 4 lety +388

    Yup, time to randomly watch this video again.

  • @MZ-qo7zz
    @MZ-qo7zz Před 3 měsíci +11

    My favorite MatPat video. You will be missed

  • @CallMeLi.
    @CallMeLi. Před měsícem +5

    This was my first game theory video, i was a 11 year old girl who had an obsession with zelda twilight princess and from here i started watching your chanel. As i grew my intrest still were the same and i still watched you and now im 22 and you are a huge part of my life Mat. Thank you for making me how i am today and i still am a huge zelda nerd but also a indie game,horror catalogue,fnaf and cool arg fan. Thank you for everything Mat i wish you the best❤

  • @XxzombilovaxX
    @XxzombilovaxX Před 5 lety +3526

    Who will be probably be rewatching this in 2019?

  • @astridmcintyre2279
    @astridmcintyre2279 Před 8 lety +929

    Description: "Help us reach 1 million subs!"
    Sub count: Whoops 6 mil sorry.

    • @HimariHimatsu
      @HimariHimatsu Před 8 lety +7

      +Astrid McIntyre and then when you look at the upload date you suddenly feel stupid

    • @astridmcintyre2279
      @astridmcintyre2279 Před 8 lety +21

      +Alexander Markström I actually don't lol. I was just referring to how much the channel has grown, but I see where you're coming from. XD

    • @ajlambert2074
      @ajlambert2074 Před 8 lety

      +Alexander Markström lol

    • @astridmcintyre2279
      @astridmcintyre2279 Před 8 lety +2

      +Lps CocoCaramel Yeah, I know. I was just referring to how much the channel has grown since then. I already said that.

    • @pheldia
      @pheldia Před 8 lety

      +Astrid McIntyre look where it was published. doy

  • @soops_world
    @soops_world Před 7 měsíci +5

    Me seeing the intro: oh must be an old one
    Me seeing that it was form 9 years ago: GOD DAYUM

  • @cameronhodgetts920
    @cameronhodgetts920 Před 3 měsíci +9

    Anyone here watching after MatPat announced his retirement?

  • @jeffreyschwanke2310
    @jeffreyschwanke2310 Před 7 lety +420

    This is one of Mat's best theories.

  • @someoneimportant2517
    @someoneimportant2517 Před 4 lety +1167

    He's lucky the wheel of gaming didn't say undertale...

    • @smudgetwo
      @smudgetwo Před 4 lety +51

      this was in like 2013

    • @sarahadair7320
      @sarahadair7320 Před 4 lety +22

      Yea or else all the undertale fans would go crazy!

    • @mitsukii5659
      @mitsukii5659 Před 4 lety +14

      Someone Important- The fans would go crazy, yes, but the video would last an hour to @-@

    • @nytronochrome
      @nytronochrome Před 3 lety +29

      This video was made in 2013, Undertale was made 2015

    • @dreeraven5838
      @dreeraven5838 Před 3 lety +1

      (sans is ness)

  • @accuratememin
    @accuratememin Před 2 lety +11

    I just realized, the way the Happy Masked Salesman acts also acts with loss.
    - When he finds out Link didn't bring back his mask, he goes into a moment of denial.
    - Immediately after, he flies into a rage, violently shaking Link.
    - He tells the story of Majora's Mask, and then begs Link repeatedly to bring back his precious mask, to which Link says yes.
    - While we don't really see him for the rest of the game until the end, he's probably super bummed out that his mask is gone and filled with anxiety that the Skull Kid casually is ending the world.
    - When his mask is finally returned at the end of the game, he says the evil has left the mask. It sounds like he's a bit disappointed that it's just a normal mask again, but either way, he accepts the mask and moves on with his life.

  • @Nisanex
    @Nisanex Před rokem +37

    I literally keep watching this regularly

  • @BritCatastrophe
    @BritCatastrophe Před 9 lety +149

    "Link continued his search for Navi after she left in Ocarina of Time. Why anyone would want to find her, that is beyond me. But Link is a weird kid."
    A-fucking-men XD

    • @DisasterEnby
      @DisasterEnby Před 9 lety +1

      I fuckin' agree

    • @scarletgoldenthorn
      @scarletgoldenthorn Před 8 lety +5

      But...I-I love Navi.

    • @beatles4ful
      @beatles4ful Před 8 lety

      ***** I bet you typed one line of it and copy and paste the rest

    • @mettatonex7221
      @mettatonex7221 Před 8 lety +6

      Brit Catastrope Because without Navi... Link would not know how to open a door.

    • @BritCatastrophe
      @BritCatastrophe Před 8 lety +1

      Well Midna still opened it for him with her big ass shadow hand when he was a wolf.

  • @willbeaver06
    @willbeaver06 Před 5 lety +855

    Termina also means 'end' in the Spanish language (just so you know)

    • @diegocruz7377
      @diegocruz7377 Před 5 lety +18

      You got it right. Bien hecho.

    • @azappl
      @azappl Před 5 lety +16

      All these languages come from Latin where it means end, that’s why it’s in so many languages

    • @slavko5666
      @slavko5666 Před 5 lety

      In Romanian also

    • @me5591
      @me5591 Před 5 lety +1

      *boi*

    • @willbeaver06
      @willbeaver06 Před 5 lety

      @@me5591 ...yeah ???

  • @qoocot
    @qoocot Před 5 měsíci +8

    I think I’m a little late on this video 💀

  • @cryo311old
    @cryo311old Před 3 lety +3

    MatPat: Is Link dead?
    The Official Zelda Timeline: Well yes but actually no

  • @Wolverinesmells
    @Wolverinesmells Před 8 lety +275

    just thought i should share this amazing insperational quote from link himself " HYEEAHHHHHHYEAAAAAHYEAHYEA " -Link

    • @wavewingman5993
      @wavewingman5993 Před 8 lety +42

      *Tears* That was....That was beautiful.

    • @TheSpy149
      @TheSpy149 Před 8 lety +6

      "Let teachings of old past onto you" is the most inspirational link quote for me

    • @wilcoxtrapzk8315
      @wilcoxtrapzk8315 Před 8 lety +2

      (applause) it so touching makes any Goron happy

    • @kalebjones9553
      @kalebjones9553 Před 8 lety

      It's beautiful!

    • @lisadelligatti7207
      @lisadelligatti7207 Před 8 lety

      😭😭link is such a poet it's Beautiful. 😭😭 where's that Titanic air horn remix when u need it

  • @AJ-hk2kv
    @AJ-hk2kv Před 6 lety +131

    Songs in this video: (2023 update!)
    0:38 = Soul Blazer - Title Theme
    2:00 = Terranigma - Underworld
    4:11 = Lufia II - Parting
    6:05 = Soul Blazer - The Shrine of the Master
    7:55 = Lufia II - The Abysmal Depths of the Ocean
    11:19 = Terranigma - Elle's theme
    12:13 = Gimmick! - Strange Memories of Death

  • @daemianmatthews2062
    @daemianmatthews2062 Před 3 měsíci +6

    This was my first video that i saw from MattPat

  • @flufla-wi3yz
    @flufla-wi3yz Před 3 měsíci +7

    We are going to miss you matpat

  • @scrablse2613
    @scrablse2613 Před 4 lety +550

    2013: "Help us reach 1 million subs!"
    2020: 12.3Million subs
    Time really does fly by fast.

  • @jacobaobert
    @jacobaobert Před 9 lety +287

    took him a year to follow up on that hook shot joke

    • @hylianknight8341
      @hylianknight8341 Před 9 lety +1

      mrbrockpeters no it is a giant wheel and he spins it and if he lands on a theory he already did he spins again the hook shot one was like a 1 in 1000000000000000000000000000 had of making it spesicfily because he made a joke about it

    • @hylianknight8341
      @hylianknight8341 Před 9 lety

      mrbrockpeters lol it is fine

    • @CynicalT0ast
      @CynicalT0ast Před 9 lety

      mrbrockpeters He probably calls every single thought a theory, and he goes to the SUPER AMAZING END CARD TOURNAMENT!!! Every night

    • @darksuperganon
      @darksuperganon Před 9 lety +9

      He also covered the CZcams Subscriber Bug.

    • @Pvinini
      @Pvinini Před 9 lety +1

      66 likes and 6 comments... TEMMO CONFIRMED

  • @johndavidstoltzfus8921
    @johndavidstoltzfus8921 Před měsícem +2

    My first video from you MatPat. It's still my favorite, but your final theory is a close second. I'm a little shocked at how much this is hitting me, but you will be missed. Thanks for everything.

  • @Kitty294_
    @Kitty294_ Před rokem +13

    This video taught me about the 5 stages of grief and I will never forget now (I will now always remember DABDA)

  • @calebbaumtm1915
    @calebbaumtm1915 Před 7 lety +130

    0:44
    Made Me Extremely Confused For A Second...

  • @vincekeatts2534
    @vincekeatts2534 Před 4 lety +329

    Did anyone think that in Majora’s Mask Navi is dead and each location is Link coming closer to accepting her death.

    • @popsicIes
      @popsicIes Před 4 lety +88

      I think I read somewhere that fairies die once they complete their purpose, meaning that Navi would have died post-Ocarina, unfortunately.

    • @curtisleblanc5897
      @curtisleblanc5897 Před 3 lety +18

      R.I.P. Navi.

    • @llamaluke1207
      @llamaluke1207 Před 3 lety +7

      You obviously only watched about half the video

    • @vincekeatts2534
      @vincekeatts2534 Před 3 lety +6

      @@llamaluke1207 yeah, I noticed that after I posted this

    • @TonyNes64
      @TonyNes64 Před 3 lety +6

      @@vincekeatts2534 It could also be about Navi anyway 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @rbjohnson
    @rbjohnson Před 3 měsíci +4

    This is the first game theorists video I ever watched. With Matpat heading out soon, I have now come back to relive memories.

  • @haruh.1443
    @haruh.1443 Před 3 lety +21

    Ive watched this video at least 10 times but i swear that “youtube glitch” always gets me

  • @jonathannaranjo6316
    @jonathannaranjo6316 Před 5 lety +177

    MatPat: looks at Majora's Mask.
    MatPat: Is this Loss?
    I'll leave now.

  • @David-we4mf
    @David-we4mf Před 7 lety +309

    Ahhhhh the old intro

  • @ApollosLostLyre
    @ApollosLostLyre Před 3 lety +75

    This was my first-ever game theory episode and I love coming back to it occasionally to see how the channel has grown since it came out

  • @captaincam331
    @captaincam331 Před měsícem +2

    the nostalgia is emanating from this video

  • @midnalazuli793
    @midnalazuli793 Před 7 lety +62

    I understand that this theory has long since been debunked, but one crucial element was missing in this theory: Hyrule Historia explicitly states that the Hero of Time LIVES after the events of Majora's Mask, he even has children.

    • @prome57
      @prome57 Před 6 lety +4

      Midna Lazuli i love watching his debunked theories though. but i believe this theory isnt entirely wrong. link isnt dead skullkid is (just my idea of it)

    • @shadoworion9603
      @shadoworion9603 Před 6 lety +1

      Midna Lazuli wait didnt his spirit live and not his human form?

    • @midnalazuli793
      @midnalazuli793 Před 6 lety +9

      Shadow Orion
      I think you got to have a body to produce offspring.

    • @longtall2006
      @longtall2006 Před 6 lety

      Midna Lazuli but then die and becomes shade from loz twilight princ

    • @xdarkerx12345
      @xdarkerx12345 Před 6 lety +1

      Midna Lazuli hyrule historia isn't cannon

  • @shortking1247
    @shortking1247 Před 5 lety +96

    no matter how many times i watch this video, i always fall for the loading circle at the beginning of the episode.

  • @donninjagames130
    @donninjagames130 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Why does Matpat sound more sane here 💀

  • @gulpin768
    @gulpin768 Před měsícem +3

    The first theory I watched, granted it was a couple years after its release, but i remember playing majora’s mask, completing it, but I never knew what happened next to link, it was vague, until one day i stumbled upon this video

    • @enclavesoldier2435
      @enclavesoldier2435 Před měsícem +2

      This theory has been heavily debunked. Link lived into his adulthood and had children with TP Link being his blood descendant.

  • @neogeothomas8127
    @neogeothomas8127 Před 6 lety +169

    9:14 "And that actually makes sense in the timeline, too!"
    Next up in autoplay: "Game Theory: Why the Official Zelda Timeline is Wrong"

    • @DRKALX
      @DRKALX Před 6 lety

      Ninjinfox22 The guy with the spikey hair on Ocarina, that's him, that's the Stalfos on twilight princess, you bimbos! :P

    • @alithegreat9096
      @alithegreat9096 Před 6 lety

      Ninjinfox22 tho he said that the timeline theory was wrong in his botw theorie

    • @pugglify_yt
      @pugglify_yt Před 6 lety

      It was a joke though, because PBG was not paying attention.

    • @KN-bh1pu
      @KN-bh1pu Před 6 lety

      Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

  • @AideensAhmed
    @AideensAhmed Před 5 lety +404

    Matpat: link is in purgatory
    Steph: why is the fbi here?
    Fbi: he knows to much

  • @bridgettegross4110
    @bridgettegross4110 Před 3 lety +10

    1:09 it's almost 7 years later and videos still don't always reach subscribers, notifications are constantly late, and CZcams doesn't give a crap

  • @SDKaiba
    @SDKaiba Před 10 měsíci +4

    Still the best Zelda video on CZcams.

  • @clipbit
    @clipbit Před 5 lety +597

    Maybe the real theory is that Nintendo wanted to reuse the character models XD

    • @torresruben6556
      @torresruben6556 Před 5 lety +2

      Yep XD

    • @aydriano
      @aydriano Před 5 lety +21

      Jay Ce Actually Majora’s mask was supposed to be a DLC bonus of Ocarina. But Nintendo was then like f**k it as released it as a full game but were too lazy to change the models and crap. There you go

    • @bornfrompain-rp2bd
      @bornfrompain-rp2bd Před 5 lety +21

      Only had 1 year to make the game

    • @icantthinkofagoodname4130
      @icantthinkofagoodname4130 Před 5 lety +8

      Only had a year to make the game dip crips

    • @JohnDoe-nm3lg
      @JohnDoe-nm3lg Před 5 lety +1

      HuffPuff Gamer well how does ac n cod come out good every year

  • @zarico6157
    @zarico6157 Před 4 lety +340

    This was the first game theory I ever watched. And I’ve been a fan ever since.
    Seriously, thanks Team Theory, I was eight when I became a fan, and I’m fifteen now, not that old, I know, but I still grew up with this show, and it’s taught me so much. So thank you guys, from the bottom of my heart.

    • @AirahsELL
      @AirahsELL Před 3 lety

      Wait until you're a bit older and realize that Mat is a hack fraud who barely does any research before pumping out a convincing script.

    • @zarico6157
      @zarico6157 Před 3 lety +9

      @@AirahsELL
      Matt has said on more than one occasion that not all of his theories are meant to be taken seriously. Game Theories job is meant to entertain by stretching the realities of fake video game worlds and stories in order to draw extreme and outlandish conclusions, not come up with well thought out, possible true intentioned analysis. Sure, a lot of them are like that, but I don’t think anyone believes that Nintendo actually intended for Mario to secretly be a sociopath, or for the Companion cube to actually be a curled up dead aperture employee, etc etc. They aren’t meant to be taken seriously without exception, they are entertainment, and from them you can choose to believe it if you want, or do what most people do and go “Hello neighbour’s neighbour is Satan? That’s an interesting theory.”
      The upload schedule for this channel is brutal. Not all of them are gonna be gems. And besides that isn’t it just fun to think about how physics would work if Minecraft’s worlds functioned like cube planets? Or speculate on what would happen to Termina if the moon did come close enough to hit the ground? Like,, who cares? I just find the content educational and entertaining. Do I think Rosalina is Luigi and Peach’s kid? No, not really. But do I like the episode? Yes! Genetics and genetic probability are intriguing subjects that are fun to listen to.
      But anyways, sorry for the wall of text haha-

    • @AirahsELL
      @AirahsELL Před 3 lety

      @@zarico6157 so the target audience is a bunch of dumb kids who aren't interested in real world physics applications, got it. Their spinoff series, Science Of, is so much more entertaining to watch than whatever the hell Mat rambles on about for 5 minutes before getting to the point of his video.
      Thing is, his theories aren't even well researched. I would have a bit more respect if a video like this couldn't be refuted in SECONDS with something as simple as "Hero's Spirit from Twilight Princess exists." The line "it's just a theory," aside from thr catchphrase, is a really lame cop-out for him to be as wrong as he wants and for people like you to think it's defensible.

    • @just_kuroo6204
      @just_kuroo6204 Před 2 lety +5

      @@AirahsELL ok so one question. IF you dislike matpats’s videos, why are u here? Also, I’m pretty sure you’er subbed to matpat

    • @just_kuroo6204
      @just_kuroo6204 Před 2 lety +3

      @@AirahsELL oh wait, I just looked at ur channel. You’er a science major who dislikes people that come up with theories for entertainment. No, no, I respect ur opinion, you’er human too

  • @sukhpreetsn4945
    @sukhpreetsn4945 Před 3 lety +20

    I don’t know why but when I was a kid just gave me nightmares

  • @thewigon
    @thewigon Před 3 měsíci +4

    This came out when I was a freshman in high school👴🏻

  • @alejandromedrano6366
    @alejandromedrano6366 Před 5 lety +352

    I always thought he returned to hyrule and served as a royal guard, but now I...
    I still believe that, c'mon the stalfos is adult size

    • @Attackontrashcan
      @Attackontrashcan Před 4 lety +23

      "Those who get lost in the woods become stalfos,and children become the skull kids" -either oot tp or Hyrule historia

    • @Attackontrashcan
      @Attackontrashcan Před 4 lety +29

      SPOILERS
      in to the hero's shade is comfirmed to be oot/mm link and tp link is blood related to him

    • @grafzpln2344
      @grafzpln2344 Před 4 lety +4

      @@Attackontrashcan so who did Link have *B* ex with

    • @Attackontrashcan
      @Attackontrashcan Před 4 lety +23

      @@grafzpln2344 most likey malon since his decedent's are farmers and/or ranchers (oddly enough malon and link are alot like my parents) that and to link knows eponas song

    • @frankspice2123
      @frankspice2123 Před 4 lety +6

      true as a stalfos can only be created by a person being killed as an ADULT and is your a child you would become a skull kid

  • @skywalkershand2338
    @skywalkershand2338 Před 4 lety +1410

    All I can think about is Ben Drowned.

  • @damianedmundcincurak2657
    @damianedmundcincurak2657 Před 3 lety +16

    This theory would all be well and good except for that fact that the next game in the timeline (Twilight Princess) has made it pretty clear that the hero of Twilight is a direct descendant of the hero of time. So unless Link already had a family at the age of 10 before he "died" looking for Navi than I don't think this theory works.

    • @kanthanesan3602
      @kanthanesan3602 Před 2 lety +3

      Descendant doesn't need to be related by blood
      They could mean descendants of the chosen one

    • @annieandelsieofarendelle3294
      @annieandelsieofarendelle3294 Před 8 měsíci

      @@kanthanesan3602 He is his descendant by blood and even Aunoma confirmed that Link was not dead in MM

  • @wittybanter96
    @wittybanter96 Před 3 měsíci +5

    This was the first theory I ever watched. Thanks Matpat

  • @tasteslikedog9340
    @tasteslikedog9340 Před 6 lety +210

    0:44 I always check my WiFi after that. Anyone else get fooled?

    • @hildarubi2001
      @hildarubi2001 Před 6 lety +2

      Waffles Mcjiggins me

    • @Keshaire
      @Keshaire Před 6 lety +10

      Nah, because CZcams doesn't even do that anymore.
      Back in 2013 though, that was like every video. Lmao

    • @jojogaming1013
      @jojogaming1013 Před 6 lety +1

      Ha ha! I didn't...

    • @jules6023
      @jules6023 Před 6 lety +2

      Waffles Mcjiggins me Idk why lmao

    • @coralmaynard4876
      @coralmaynard4876 Před 6 lety +1

      I almost did... but just before I could do anything, the error message appeared and I wasn't in control, so I waited to find out it was supposed to be a way to get someone else to join.

  • @Geeky_Boii
    @Geeky_Boii Před 8 lety +228

    Am I the only one who gets reminded of Ben Drowned when watching this video....I thought so

  • @WittyProfileName
    @WittyProfileName Před 5 měsíci +3

    The fact that this video is almost 10 years old is insane to me.

  • @h0rn3d_h1st0r1an
    @h0rn3d_h1st0r1an Před 3 měsíci +3

    My favorite theory of his. We will miss you, matpat.

  • @NewWaveMasquerade
    @NewWaveMasquerade Před 10 lety +35

    One of the ways I’ve interpreted Majora’s Mask is that at the end of Ocarina of Time Link defeats Gannon, saves the Princess, saves the world and becomes a child again. He pretty much has fulfilled his destiny by the age of 10; anyone in that situation would wonder to themselves- “What purpose does my life have now, what’s left?” So I view Link’s journey in Majora’s Mask is him searching for the meaning of his existence in a new land and by collecting numerous masks that have their own unique design as well as different powers. This can be seen as a metaphor for Link having an identity crisis and part of this journey is a quest for him to find himself. But that’s just my theory.

    • @MrBKainX
      @MrBKainX Před 10 lety +6

      your game theory!!!

    • @jps7
      @jps7 Před 2 lety

      Valid theory‼️ (i’m so late)

  • @MT-qs7gz
    @MT-qs7gz Před 7 lety +104

    bargaining.. did you say...
    bargaining...
    DORMAMU-

  • @eric_automata6
    @eric_automata6 Před 3 měsíci +4

    You know why we’re here.

  • @g5knightlyshell445
    @g5knightlyshell445 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I believe this is the first Game Theory I watched and now Im 18 and Matt is saying goodbye.

  • @TheMidnighttea
    @TheMidnighttea Před 10 lety +148

    You missed something rather important. The chronology of the number "4" throughout Majora's Mask. You use four forms for most of the game's puzzles, there are four major story arcs/dungeons, there are four giants, etc. etc. -- in Japan, the number "4" is heavily symbolic of death. It's notable that the beginning of the fourth day is game over *except* at the very end of the game -- when Link has accepted his own death. But it's just a theory...!

  • @nik4244
    @nik4244 Před 4 lety +357

    This is always gonna be a classic video

    • @amuzarill423
      @amuzarill423 Před 4 lety +5

      Shame it is completely, 100% wrong.

    • @Idk-pr2nd
      @Idk-pr2nd Před 4 lety

      @@amuzarill423 we know it's wrong cause we see link land on a deku flower but I like watching it again

    • @cricket_price4633
      @cricket_price4633 Před 3 lety +2

      @@amuzarill423 at the time it was a THEORY. A game theory.

    • @paulrance5445
      @paulrance5445 Před 3 lety

      But it was immediately disproven when TP came out.

    • @cricket_price4633
      @cricket_price4633 Před 3 lety +1

      @@paulrance5445 yes. It was wrong. You know why that's okay tho? It was a theory!

  • @eldenburgjacob
    @eldenburgjacob Před 11 měsíci +3

    Why I’m I getting this in my recommended 9 years later

  • @chrisdreemurr117
    @chrisdreemurr117 Před 10 měsíci +2

    “Link has journeyed through the valley of death-“
    Me: He takes a look at his life and realizes there’s nothing left. ‘Cause he’s lasting and blasting so long that, even Navi thinks that his mind is gone~

  • @sheepisleep
    @sheepisleep Před 10 lety +32

    I'm surprised you never mentioned how link was constantly using the song of healing to "heal" or make people accept their fate. Also in the long run heal his own heart and make him accept his own fate to escape purgatory.

  • @Meganomore
    @Meganomore Před 4 lety +105

    this will always be one of my favorite theories, mainly because it was one of my first ones and seems to have SO MUCH EVIDENCE

    • @alejandromedrano6366
      @alejandromedrano6366 Před 4 lety +11

      twilight princess is enough to prove it wrong

    • @Austar7
      @Austar7 Před rokem +2

      I don't know. It has a bunch of holes. This video should explain it;
      czcams.com/video/LxTf5hjvOCU/video.html

  • @EndoSkeloton
    @EndoSkeloton Před rokem +10

    This was my favorite game theory video when I was younger, I'm not that old yet, but it still fills me with joy, and nostalgia makes me so happy.

  • @albertogestosoarce2108
    @albertogestosoarce2108 Před rokem +6

    I come back to this video when I want to watch the best theory of Majora's Mask for 9 years now... omg, 9 YEARS ALREADY!!!

  • @OrbitalPulsar
    @OrbitalPulsar Před 6 lety +314

    Notice how in this theory and the ones pre 2015, there are not many breaks in pace and no mainstream trends crammed in? Notice how its mostly informative and doesnt gloss over information, and it isnt a song and dance? Please bring back this much loved style of Game Theory (unless you genuinely want to continue with your new style of course).

    • @bozobabez
      @bozobabez Před 5 lety +11

      Tarik this is late, but well said 👏

    • @the1zeldafan609
      @the1zeldafan609 Před 5 lety +3

      Yes, well said.

    • @RenskeLeyng
      @RenskeLeyng Před 5 lety +10

      i was thinking the same thing. when i see his old videos i think 'but i enjoy these a lot more than his new videos'
      its just more interesting because nothing is rushed

    • @LeninsMilf
      @LeninsMilf Před 5 lety +8

      Tarik so true before Fnaf this channel was not some trend follower

    • @BlackStar1587
      @BlackStar1587 Před 5 lety +2

      *A c c e p t a n c e*
      *I s*
      *K e y y y*

  • @snovaluv
    @snovaluv Před 7 lety +93

    Me at 0:45: Dammit!
    Me at 0:45 a second time:WHY?!! THIS IS THE SECOND TIME IN A ROW THIS HAPPE...
    oh... Why didn't I wait?

    • @snovaluv
      @snovaluv Před 7 lety

      Dabda
      Me: do the dab everyone.

    • @vilivejo
      @vilivejo Před 7 lety

      hahahah same😂😂😂

    • @lunareclipse3078
      @lunareclipse3078 Před 7 lety +4

      I thought you were me bc we have the same profile picture! XD I saw it an went, "was I hacked?" then I noticed your name XD

    • @dannygamboa9739
      @dannygamboa9739 Před 7 lety

      +vilivejo ok

    • @saphirafox4995
      @saphirafox4995 Před 7 lety

      CZcams actually ended up crashing 13 seconds later for me and I thought it was part of the video still. X3

  • @tajhaith2175
    @tajhaith2175 Před 3 lety +33

    Memories of watching this and then blowing my friends’ minds back in middle school..the good ol days..

  • @stitch-bricks
    @stitch-bricks Před 3 měsíci +2

    The intros are all iconic. Goodbye 😢

  • @xa447
    @xa447 Před 4 lety +82

    "Needing Google + to see comments"
    Oh if only you knew

  • @austinbailey2668
    @austinbailey2668 Před 10 lety +45

    While I admit the theory has some good points. I will say that Nintendo confirmed that Termina was an alternate reality to that of Hyrule. Skull kid's magic basically sends you through a wormhole. Ehh. Need to think about this all. Interesting stuff.

    • @TheIchthus5
      @TheIchthus5 Před 10 lety +40

      Who's to say death itself isn't an alternate dimension?? oooooOOOOOooooo!!!

    • @TheClankMan
      @TheClankMan Před 10 lety +11

      ***** :O That means that he could have fallen, and the skull kid killed him by forcing him into the death dimension, and that would be the terrible fate that he met!

    • @Marcspielt
      @Marcspielt Před 10 lety

      Though Nintendo also confirmed that the Link from A Link to the Past and Links Awakening is the same as the one from Oracle of Ages / Seasons, and that just isn't possible.

    • @saminabox
      @saminabox Před 10 lety +2

      Yeah its not much of a theory when nintendo p much debunked it before it began

    • @Bolderox
      @Bolderox Před 10 lety +1

      you still hit the ground when you come out of a wormhole

  • @SotiCoto
    @SotiCoto Před 2 lety +7

    If I remember rightly, this was the first Game Theory I watched.

  • @Absurdtheistic
    @Absurdtheistic Před měsícem +1

    Man... I was 11 when I first watched this. Thank you, Mat Pat. You were a big part of my teenage years and early childhood

  • @chichikk
    @chichikk Před 10 lety +53

    OMG, OMG, OMG!!!! So guess what I just thought of!!??!!!! If princess peach is just the princess, then who is the king!? BOWSER. Bowser is king koopa and princess peach is his daughter! he is kidnapping her just to either test Mario to make sure he is worthy to be with his daughter or because he doesn't want him around her AT. ALL. Here is some proof: at the beginning of super Mario galaxy, when bowser comes closer to the kingdom peach doesn't react, she doesn't run, and she doesn't really do anything to show any effort to escape. Why? Well consider this, if its her father then she is familiar with this man, she knows him and has known him for a while. and if you're still not convinced then i lead you to the video created by matpat from game theory. It talks about how Mario treats his family, the kingdom, his relationship with Peach and how he is always cheating on her. Now, there is two sides of the relationship between peach and bowser, one where he could have been abusive and peach ran away to create her own kingdom. Bowser finds out and wants to kidnap her and bring her back to the kingdom where she originally was and where bowser has his place of power. Sadly, I guess, the hero Mario comes to his girlfriend, peaches, rescue! On the other hand there is the theory that he doesn't want Mario to be around peach which i discussed in the first half, but I don't think its that good of a theory. Seriously? The man that has kidnapped the chick over 10 times is just testing Mario? That's stupid, and out of character for bowser. So I'm turning my attention to my theory that he was abusive of his power and was abusive of his daughter, peach. First off, if you guys have even heard of him, there is an actual king toadstool. Which I don't think he counts because he only showed up in 'super Mario bros: peach-hime kyushutsu dai sakusen!' And 'the super Mario bros. film' and I think we all know that the movie was GOD AWFUL. And I honestly have no idea what the first thing was... :/
    And also the theory of him and peach "making babies" to have the koopa kids....that could be true....sorry, but I'm about to ruin your childhood! :D peach may have been sexually abused by bowser! Then accidentally got pregnant with the koopa kids. YEP! I just raped your childhood in one sentence! :) and also, bowser said this in the game 'Mario and luigi dream team' "hear me! I will kidnap peach OVER and OVER until i pull it off! And no one can stop me! Losing is not an option! And neither is giving up!" That means that he is determined to get peach back no matter what. Because he sees himself as someone you shouldn't mess with, and when someone messes with him of disobeyed him he gets pissed off. I know, this is a video about the legend of Zelda, but I don't care! MARIO BITCHES!!!!

    • @livjonassen5090
      @livjonassen5090 Před 5 lety

      Hey we really don't appreciate the mini theary dude

  • @triforcehero0325
    @triforcehero0325 Před 7 lety +61

    Doesn't the hyrule history also state that if you die as a child in the lost woods, you become a skull kid, not a stalfos, unless you are an adult.

    • @bop1068
      @bop1068 Před 6 lety

      I think it did -theory busted- Xd

    • @jojogaming1013
      @jojogaming1013 Před 6 lety

      Hem... Nobody can get what you try to say... Read yourself, you make no sense...

    • @ArtblockInsomniac
      @ArtblockInsomniac Před 6 lety +4

      While that is true, there is the possibility that the reason he is on purgatory to begin with is his regret of dying as a child. In OoT, he becomes and adult and goes on an epic adventure, and would feel regret knowing he would never actually grow into an adult and have another adventure. MM is his way to cope. One last adventure that you can repeat over and over until you are ready to move on. Once he realizes he doesn't need his quest anymore, he matures into an adult (he looks about that age it would happen anyway) and tries to pass on. That's why the main enemy is a skull kid. It's what link is afraid of becoming.

    • @YeahTheDuckweed
      @YeahTheDuckweed Před 6 lety

      I wish I could drop more than 1 like for you, Caitlin; that was near-flawless. I'm convinced.
      It's worth noting, I feel, that Skull Kid's wearing a mask for practically the entire time he's been on-screen at all. He's always...hiding...something, or *from* something. Masks are definitely a great way to convey hidden meanings and twist feelings, What a perfect game.

    • @laurelb.9504
      @laurelb.9504 Před 6 lety

      well Link's been an adult as well as a kid, maybe the fact that he's mastered time has something to do with it. his appearance is determined by whether he has the kokori sword or the master sword sure, but maybe the transformation has more to do with the age of a person's soul. idk, just a thought

  • @mattyluvspokemon08
    @mattyluvspokemon08 Před 3 lety +24

    This is one of my all time favourite game theory videos as the evidence is really interesting and very well explained. Whether you believe the theory or not I think there's a lot to think about with it and it's not entirely unplausable like people try to say. Plus this video taught me about a really important thing: The 5 stages of grief, like in detail, I had never heard of it until this video and I think it's really interesting and has surprisingly been something I could bring up repeatedly at school college and university and has given something interesting to think about. At the end of the day, it's a theory... A GAME THEORY ;)

  • @localshowershiter1794
    @localshowershiter1794 Před měsícem +2

    Rewatching this video in 2024 goodbye Matt Pat Will miss you

  • @Yo5463
    @Yo5463 Před 5 lety +37

    This video was impactful in my life. I got into the whole of The Legend of Zelda because of it. It was at a time just after school where I was bullied and overworked. I didn't even remember what I enjoyed doing and Majora's Mask reminded me playing video games was one of those things.
    I came back to the video because I remember it filled my head with expectations of deep messages about death which Majora's Mask didn't really have even if it was so good. And it is now that I'm playing Persona 3 and finally it explores these themes with excruciating detail.
    Play it if you have the chance. The story is illuminating

  • @carolinev1704
    @carolinev1704 Před 9 lety +144

    I know I'm WAYYYYY late but I wanted to add to this theory. With my shotty Spanish speaking skills, 'Termina' translates to end/ends. Link falls into the end, or the after life.

    • @boyoudleed4919
      @boyoudleed4919 Před 9 lety +4

      That's actually pretty cool, never noticed that.

    • @im_sorry_i_forgot_my_username
      @im_sorry_i_forgot_my_username Před 9 lety +16

      He mentioned it in the video...

    • @snipperjoey1151
      @snipperjoey1151 Před 9 lety +4

      im_sorry_i_forgot_my_username No, he mentioned that TerminaL mean the end, not that Termina means the end.

    • @jqckthewolf1513
      @jqckthewolf1513 Před 9 lety

      And where did terminal co e from termina

    • @chancemitchell4147
      @chancemitchell4147 Před 9 lety +2

      Hell I thought he was going to say "Termina" as in "Terminated" as in, Link being dead. His life being terminated.

  • @majinsawdust64
    @majinsawdust64 Před 3 lety +21

    This video prompted me to play Majora’s Mask again and now that I’ve seen this video the stages of grief are so obvious whenever I speak to anyone.

  • @guymanmanguy1601
    @guymanmanguy1601 Před 3 lety +4

    I think the entire game is a metaphor for death, not that link is dead. But that's just a theory. Also the dancing redeads in Ikana castle represents acceptance, as in accepting you are dead and reveling in it - a sort of absurdist meaning.
    As in, Termina is real, but a metaphor for purgatory. That is why it is at the bottom of a huge pit. Also, in the inn, the grandma talks of the overworked as "the heavens". The happy mask salesman says that not because he has died, but because he has gone to this purgatory, where forms of all the living people in Hyrule also live.