This is why you CAN'T Daily Drive Porsche 911 Turbos
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Starting w a clean well maintained example can make it livable. Rehabbing any project car is a labor of love
Couldn't agree more!
I daily drove my 996 GT3, and my 996 Turbo. The GT3 was a better daily and the Turbo (as you pointed out) drank fuel like there was no tomorrow, but the GT3 was just seemingly more troublefree.
Dang, I hardly drive my 2002 996 base, has 26k on the odometer but bet it has given more trouble than your 996’s.
Most zay the turbo is a better daily. Hrm
@@matt13ross turbo is definitely a better daily. My 996 turbo has been 100% trouble free
Keep the faith Matt. You're still churning through years of neglect from the previous owners. I daily an '01 996TT and have zero qualms about taking it anywhere. You've come so far with it, you'll get it back to baseline. You should be able to pile the miles on it...
Had this happen on a 01 996 turbo as well. Routine maintenance to start so filters, plugs, sleeves and oil.
Car handled tail happy. Alignment was way off.
Clutch was a difficult to modulate. Master Cylinder replacement.
Gas pedal was sticky. Remove, clean/lube, re-install.
Engine cover wouldn't pop open. Used a screwdriver to reset spring. Works for now.
Spoiler sagged. Just drove it and it fixed itself....for now.
Just needs to get reset back to a baseline of routine maintenance and then you can drive it knowing you'll have some repair needed once a year instead of all the time at random.
Had the EXACT same issue with my 997tt and replacing the purge valve fixed it as well
If you still have a CEL for the EVAP system. Try changing your fuel tank pressure sensor. I fought the same code over the summer in my Silverado and finally fixed it after replacing the fuel tank pressure sensor
I had issues filling both my 996 turbo & 997 turbo. Best not to let them not hit red and they only fill to little less than 3/4 and the gas head had to be tilted to the 90* or upside down. Problem starting after could be purge control valve back in motor. And bad purge valve causes idle fluctuations. And, the purge valve isn’t a drop motor on the 997. Just cut the heat shrink & use regular auto rubber hose & clamp. Congrats & cheers
Simultaneous ABS and PSM lights usually indicates a boost leak. There are a few other causes, but the simultaneous faults have like 4 different possibilities as culprits.
My dream car is a 991 911 Turbo, so hopefully those are a bit more reliable to daily drive than the older ones. My 991 Carrera S has been an amazing daily driver for me so far
I have a 991.2 Turbo S. 45k on it ... Zero issues. 👍
It’s always depends on the previous owners not on the car. All 911 is solid and reliable. You could daily drive an old classic air cooled model too.
Old abused cars like mine aren't good examples lol
I had the same problem with my Cayenne turbo did the exact same thing. It was a cheap part $120 part. It was a purge valve for something with the fuel system. It was allowing fuel vapours to go into the intake manifold, and essentially choking out the engine.
purge valve fixed my 996 turbo, love the car
Just ordered the Lastfit air pump! Thanks for the link Matt!
Hey Matt, love all of the work you put into these videos! The 996 is so cool and you have converted me re Speed Yellow…Love it! Hope you guys had a nice Christmas! Can’t wait to see the 997 as seller new paint!!!!
Thanks so much and you too!
Good job! I had a similar issue with my Audi A6. Turned out to be the purge valve as well.
Great video, I really enjoy watching your progress! Keep up the great video work, its good, real good!
It's getting there!
Classic car ownership requires a little more love & tlc. Nice to see 996 content and looking forward to the inevitable 997 comparison. Oh, and get some shorter wheel studs for your 996 :)
My daily for the past year has been a Porsche 996 turbo…… super fun I love it
My dad daily drove first 78sc (car I still have ) for years ! You still have some gremlin to work out. Only thing we don’t deal with snow and salt roads in florida!
One thing I had on a MG Metro Turbo was heat soak from turbo on the fuel system when I went to restart after filling up. The answer isn't always obvious.
OMG!!! :o You're still having problems with this thing Auuuugg! I've been daily driving mine pretty much ever sense I bought it in 2013. I don't know what could cause so many issues for so long, my heart goes out to you Matt.
ALWAYS having problems lol. But the problems are getting smaller (I think)
This might sound crazy but all the symptoms the car is displaying shows it might be a bad ground in the engine harness not making enough contact.
I “daily” my 01 996TT. 204,000 miles. Driven from coast to coast and all around. Pulling the engine and trans right now to replace tons of brittle rubber and plastic, and swap the tired clutch out. They are pretty robust cars.
Mine just still needs more work to be that reliable.
That yellow jack always cracks me up with the squeaking 😂
Maybe I'll lube it someday lol
Take it to the Porsche dealership for a computer diagnose because there are other type of codes what you can’t read out with a common reader. I did that with my jaguar when i had a problem with my climate control. It cost me $100 and got the right answer onto my problem. Got the faulty sensors changed by myself and the problem got solved. The best quality gas what you can find in PA is the Sonoco 93. I tried several gas stations and that was the best.
Isn't owning a classic car fun? Nice job fixing the fueling issue. As for the PCM issue, you may have faulty ABS sensors. They often go bad, especially in areas that salt the roads in winter. They are usually pretty easy to replace as long as the mounting hardware hasn't rusted up too badly. The other possibility could be that you have a faulty g-sensor. Those are located inside the car, I think in the passenger footwell area. I haven't replaced one, so that's just a shot in the dark, but I thought I'd share that info as well. Good luck!
Yes tons of fun! Lol thanks
Really great video, I appreciated the EVAP explanation - although it was a little over my head, might need to watch that part again. Your lady sounds like exactly what mine would say. Also that's about the gas mileage I get too.
Glad it was helpful!
The plastic PCV lines tend to get brittle. Probably should have replaced all those at the same time.
Check the abs/wheel speed sensors. I had intermittent issues on my 986 and after replacing them no more issues
What was happening was that when you fill up the vent valve should be open to allow fumes into the charcoal canister and let out excess air that has been stripped of gasoline fumes and it wasn't. With the vent valve not opening and allowing the normal process to happen the fumes went into the engine when they are not supposed to causing a vapor lock.
I daily drove a 997.1TT for 2 years in Utah snow, rain, shine. Was wonderful! Only recently started putting it in the garage to try to be nice to it. I have put money into its maintenance, but all was preventative. Average mpg was probably 16. My school of thought is this, if you purchase an expensive cheap car, you are going to pay for it. If you buy an expensive, well maintained car, you get what you pay for. Being an enthusiast and doing your own work as much as possible is the way to go.
There is a Cable running through both front fenders for the pad wear sensor and wheel speed. This cable goes bad and like your friend earlier in the video was saying. You lose continuity. I had the intermittent lights and my problem was my driver side cable. Common issue
Might be the issue
Well i will update because i just bought a 996tt 01' for my new daily.
Nice work ❤️ 👍🏼
Congrats on 60k buddy!
Thank you so much 😀
The ABS and PCM lights can be triggered by the mass air sensor. Give that a check.
as you're getting 12mpg and your psm and abs light are on I would look at your MAF sensor. Dodgy MAF can cause the PSM & ABS lights to come on
To be fair, it gets 24 ish highway.
Mine gets about 30 on the highway and that included a few blasts on the autobahn up to 185mph. Still think you should look at your maf sensor. It causes poor fuel mileage, idle issues and psm/abs lights when it's playing up
Just like my 85 944 fix on thing and then bam another issue!!! 300k so it’s all good!! At least you fixed one issue!!! 😅
Well done! That’s gotta be satisfying. I daily drive mine for the last 3.5 years over 40k miles and it’s been bulletproof in the rain, sleet, or snow. They don’t like to sit for too long, I can tell you that😬😅
Lucky dog!!!
ABS plus PSM means you have to replace the little breack switch. Use an eom one .its sheep. Cheers
Check your reluctor rings on rear driveshafts. They can get gunked up with rust and cause the ABS sensor to freak out and throw a code. If they look ok and arent split it's likely a bad ABS sensor.
I need to get someone to check the codes
Matt, I love your channel and I love your projects and cars. But you can't answer the daily-or-not-question based on some crazy project cars that were litterally fucked up before. We have and had many Porsche Turbos in our family, including a 997.1 Turbo manual, and we never had problems with them. But these cars were all Porsche Centre maintained all their life, low mileage, low amount of hands, accident free etc., and much more expensive like your 997s for example of course. The 911, including the Turbos, are known to be perfectly fine for daily driving. My good friend is a Porsche Centre workshop manager and he says the same. But he says, after 997, it got worse, because of new engines and much more electronics.
So, don't give up, fix the problems and enjoy the hell out of them!🙂
Someday it will be reliable. It's all basically caught up maintenance wise. Just giving me issues. But expected for 150k miles I guess.
@@matt13ross Yes, I hope for you and am looking forward to the videos.
Whoop great work. I love it when it is that easy. lol
Did you just jacked the rear from the sump plate?
Yup. It's a solid areas
Matt I really enjoy following your channel. Do you have mechanic experience? You are very knowledgeable about what you are doing and I am always impressed by your knowledge and tenacity. I have a ‘21 Cayman S so I am a Porsche fan also! Can you share with me the diagnostic device you use and do you have a discount code from a particular brand? Looking forward to your next video! Happy New Year!
Here's a simple Ancel one I use. Works with your phone or handheld. Pretty cheap too! www.amazon.com/ANCEL-Bluetooth-Automotive-Diagnostic-Compatible/dp/B07J51W9NS?maas=maas_adg_D3D9DDBE2E4C49ECD79BC2BD6988A226_afap_abs&ref_=aa_maas&tag=maas
And thanks! I was never a mechanic, just wrenched in my spare time for many years.
Thanks brother. Your abilities to do what you have done are incredible. Hope to meet you one day. I watch you every week. You are my favorite weekly video!
Thanks for the support and for watching!
Those standard readers are good enough to read faults and clear them but that's all they can do. They can't reset oil change reminders for example. They can't do any programming either. I have a cheap standard reader myself. But I plan on getting a durametric pro at some point. That tool does absolutely everything you could need done
My 996 turbo was my only car for a number of years and it was fine, but I also got WAY better than 12mpg and I don't exactly spare the throttle...
You have a problem with your carbon canister probably clogged. I went thru similar issues with my 996tt. Ended up replacing most of the valves for fuel evap system only to find out my problem was a bumble bee had flown into an open ended fuel evap line that runs from the front all the way to the engine bay. 😂
Wtf lol
Evap is the reason for hard start after filling up.
When are you going to sort those very long wheel studs? Love the series and checking back in with this project
Some day lol
How many of us drive our cars over 60/80,000 miles with just regular maintenance stuff and no major problems perhaps your car has some underlying gremlins from before. No doubt it is a great looking car and I would drive it as much as I could.
The durametric scan tool might point to a wheel speed sensor causing your intermittent issues. You also might be able to inspect the connectors and you might see one intermittently grounding or cracked. You also might not be able to see it, it is millavolts and doesn’t take much to interrupt the Hall effect. I can mail you my durametric if you pinky swear to send it back quickly but you have enough going on you can justify your own and it has lots of features a generic scan tool doesn’t have that you’d get a lot out of it with your builds.
I may take you up on that!
What are you using to read the codes?
Sorry to hear you got hacked
I feel like the talk about this being a reliable daily doesn't apply to such an absolutely beat, clapped out example
Exactly. Plenty of high mileage 996 tts that are daily driven but are actually maintained
I certainly wouldn't say mine is beat, or clapped out, or even close. Did it used to be? Yes.
@Matt13Ross all 20 yr old cars have gremlins that pop up. My dc2 left me stranded a few months ago because the neutral stop switch on the clutch pedal broke as it dried out.
I daily’d a 997 for 17 years very few issues
2:25 Don’t break up with her Matt. She’s gorgeous. 😂
This does not count as a “shit, this is not good” situation….nice job finding it and fixing it
Your gorgeous wife in the video 👌🏻👍🏻
Happy 2024 to the both of you.
Bad purge valve?
That's was gonna be my comment too.
Keep watching lol
There’s a reason my uncles 91 964 isn’t daily driven. It’s got 15k on it but I see why he doesn’t daily drive his icon.
I see this as why I CAN daily a 911 turbo
I’m surprised the car didn’t start at 9:11 😜 😂
Haha
Sounds like you you need to purge your evap
OK, now you've done two sponsor spots for portable inflators: Yantu and Lasfit. Which one do you like better? I need one for cars/bicycles/sportsballs/pool stuff/etc.
Lasfirt. Much much smaller and works excellent
Thanks! @@matt13ross
What’s insurance cost like on a 996?
Not bad I suppose because insurance views it as old and not worth much money.
Change them front studs driving my ocd nuts can't look at them hahaha
Better than the old ones lol
@@matt13ross I do agree there just need to be shorter 😂😂😂
🔥🔥
nice
Those damn purge valves are a big issue with the VW/Audi world. After a quick check - your Porsche has the exact same part. Not a surprise, but hey, that's German car life.
SPOILER ALERT! Your ad for Lasfit tire inflator has your fully painted chalk (?) 911 in the background.
Did you watch the ad? I mentioned that lol
Hi Matt. Well done for figuring that little problem out. Nice one lol. It would take me weeks bro. Happy New Year 😅 🇨🇮
Same to you!
High mileage or high age = more maintenance. You my friend have a two for one. It’s all part of the fun, isn’t it?
I guess so....lol
She literally dropped it like it's hot. Nope, you staying together. 😂
Yes lol
Nothing better than when a fix works
Agreed!
Are you gonna keep this one after you finish the 997? As awesome as it is, it seems impractical to have two 911 Turbos...
I won't be keeping both.
OMG dude! I feel for you so hard right now because I have had those damn cars that every time you think you fix something and now it is acting differently, there's a new light in the dash. Just like, stop it already for fucksake! LOL! Just go ahead and be right and stop arguing with me!!
It's always fighting me lol
Matt , air flow sensor ?
For which issue?
Apologies , I had a 996 about 9 years ago and it used to " Hunt" on idle especially when it was cold weather.
I replaced the MAF last year.
@@matt13ross okay I will be quiet…. Lol I don’t want to add to the problem solving noise. It’s a very common problem with all 2002 Porsche’s onwards. Even today it’s a weak spot.
It could be the MAF still. Maybe I got a bad one?
Sell the 996 and change the center caps to colored ones so it looks 💯
Sell it???
@@matt13ross you’re gonna love the 997 and you will need space for the 991. Then you sell the 997 and get 992. We are with your journey for the long haul !!!
What’s Turkey Hill?
I'm English and I know Turkey Hill is a gas station and market
Gas station
“We are breaking up!” Good…You don’t need that kind of negativity in your life. lol 😂
Hahahaha
Thanks for sharing with us, much respect! ❤️
Thanks for watching!
Purge valve is bad
Fun Fact: I'm currently with my wife of 16 years because the day we met, she could differentiate between an E63 & a C63 Mercedes exhaust! 🤣
That's impressive!
i agree about the mustard speed yellow but doesnt the roller coastr stomach flipping power make it all worth it ma'am. cheers. never leave a pretty girl thats a friend and a wife because when looks go away, they always do youll still be friends with a pair of turbos. life doesnt get better cheers
It's not even mustard color lol
lol speed yellow= french's mustard, not the whole grain fancy pants crap. the kind that comes in a packet. the uncut stuff. ohhhhhh yeah. lol cant wait to see the other horrible daily driver with some fresh color juice up on her. cheers@@matt13ross
I thank the lord for that double tap skip feature everytime car CZcamsrs shove their girlfriends in videos they have no business being in
Bring back the stash Matt
Maybe!?
Valve exhaust would help you with the noise for your girlfriend. Works good for me I think all those guys have that issue
I don't mind the noise lol
Are those your front wheel studs, or are you just happy to see me?
HAHAHAHA
Check the mileage at 1:00. The car has gremlins.
LOL Yikes!!
I see the 997 painted...😎😎😎
Yup!!
Why are we not talking about the lack of continuity, I mean, new paint job.
Because that's not ready yet lol
@@matt13ross It's shaping up to look pretty sharp.
All of the negatives your gf mentioned are actually the pros/reasons we own cars like that 😂
Exactly lol
I couldn’t own that car with that exhaust. Even if I got that car for free I wouldn’t drive it
Why?
996 content his holding me over while I wait for your 997 to make it back lol
Working on that video now lol
Diagnosing late model car issues can sometimes be a headache, but keep your head up. You have a code reader and you have the right mindset to fix whatever you need to. You also have an awesome classic BMW with an LS engine. Most Porsches are gonna be left for dead in the reliability department by the LS. The 996 does have 150K miles though. Things tend to go wrong at the mileage.
True story!!
Matt, I think you are being a bit harsh on the “reliability”…considering your 996 and 997 were both rough versions of these top of the line 911’s (the only better, more expensive trim offered was the GT3). 150K miles is a lot for any car, let alone a European sports car. You would never see a Ferrari or Lamborghini even in one piece if it had that kind of mileage on them. That alone is a testament to the German engineering.
Fair points!
So really it's less about 911's and more about age, haha.
Haha
The newer generations are more reliable and more suitable for daily driver use. I would not hesitate to use a 991 or 992 generation car for daily driving.
I agree but you're talking a 200k car vs 50k car
@@matt13ross Compare their prices adjusted for cost of living. A 2001 Turbo Coupe 2D had a starting price of $111,765 which is $192,795 in today's dollars so actually they compare well. (Cost adjusted to the Consumer Price Index) Today's Turbo Coupe starts at $199,.850.
Good point. I'm talking purchase right now though. I certainly can't afford a 991. I can't afford a 997 or even a 996. Only broken ones lol.
More conversation with your partner
I subscribe bcause of the bmw but you let me fall inluv with Porsche
I'm glad!
Wear your seat belt on the way to the gas station 😊
It was a parking lot lol
Understood. Just stood out in the video. Keep up the great content.@@matt13ross
White?????????????????????? What happened to grey????? 8:23.
it's chalk grey... genuine Porsche colour
Don’t break up with her. She brings the household IQ up.
Hahaha