i Figured how to Delay Outputs on the Midas MR18 and it Actually Works (+ FREE Presets)

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  • čas přidán 27. 08. 2024

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  • @danielkharrat
    @danielkharrat  Před rokem +1

    Download Mr18 presets: drive.google.com/drive/folders/1h2P4kNTRcEhaCYTiLozdLHHUfz6KOh_I

  • @malcgarda5042
    @malcgarda5042 Před 9 měsíci +3

    I have an MR18 - using for an outside event this weekend - speech only - 2 sets speakers - one small L'Acounstic line array & some repeaters (spkrs on sticks) further out... pretty well figured this was how to do it but you showing the settings (particularly on the FX) really helped - thanks for posting the video! Fab info!

  • @Willy_Musik
    @Willy_Musik Před rokem +1

    Thank you very much
    The only channel discussing the Delay Output on the Midas x air MR18

  • @maxammo6282
    @maxammo6282 Před rokem +2

    Man that's cool. You've really done your homework. All that for such a small venue. 1 ms is all you dialed in that's a lot of work for such little return

  • @il4748
    @il4748 Před měsícem

    Thank you much Daniel for the very useful information. 😊😊😊

  • @ratiostudios2875
    @ratiostudios2875 Před 10 měsíci

    Your video just saved me a LOT of confusion. I've been trying to delay busses on the X32 and I had no idea this effect could do this, thanks!

    • @danielkharrat
      @danielkharrat  Před 10 měsíci +1

      On the x32 you have output delays you don't need to use this effect

    • @121mcloving
      @121mcloving Před 10 měsíci

      @@danielkharratI’m not delaying outputs, I’m delaying busses of differently positioned mics before they go to a matrix for output, your method works though!

  • @TimmyP1955
    @TimmyP1955 Před 7 měsíci

    I did not know about the delay modes. Thanks!

  • @davebell1633
    @davebell1633 Před 2 měsíci

    Excellent! Clear and concise 👍

  • @willchorhotsoi
    @willchorhotsoi Před 11 měsíci

    finally some one cracked this 🤘, been years im hoping to do this with the handy xr18.
    Big Up.

  • @GuillaumeLortie
    @GuillaumeLortie Před rokem +2

    Good workaroud man! its not ideal but definitly better then nothing !

  • @sound4uaudiovideorecording927

    Very innovative! I have to wonder how you came up with that “formula”. Good on you!

  • @samroney6644
    @samroney6644 Před 8 měsíci

    Great video! Very helpful. I will use this with my Behringer XR18. Just one thing I would encourage everyone to consider: The MR18 is a waste of money. Music Tribe owns Midas and markets the exact same mixer for half the price under the Behringer brand as the X-Air XR18. I have compared both devices side by side, in detail. They’re the exact same device with all of the same features and same software, made to the same quality standards, just marketed to two different price markets. You literally get absolutely nothing for the difference in price, except for a different name stenciled on the front. They are literally the exact same product in every way, simply with different brand names written on them.

    • @danielkharrat
      @danielkharrat  Před 8 měsíci +3

      The difference in price is because of the different preamps. The mr18 has the midas pro preamps that are used with the midas pro series of consoles. The xr18 has the midas designed preamps which are different. I listened to both and at high gain i could easily hear the preamp noise on the xr18 but the mr18 was much cleaner

  • @3mstudiospalmdesert
    @3mstudiospalmdesert Před rokem +1

    Excellent video

  • @knelson1180
    @knelson1180 Před rokem

    Very cool methods. Thanks!

  • @rmrzz
    @rmrzz Před rokem +2

    why is midas ignoring requests to put delays on the aux?

  • @juliodiazgranados2131
    @juliodiazgranados2131 Před 3 měsíci

    Hi Daniel,
    Excellent vidéo. I'm a fan of your vidéos in France. I have a question. Will this work with a couple of mids and a sub? In a 2.1 system as FOH.
    I have some experience and I dont have the money to buy smart, but I have Reaper. Can I do this to aline in time and phase?
    Thanks from Marseille
    Julio😊

    • @danielkharrat
      @danielkharrat  Před 3 měsíci

      You can allign time with reaper
      But for phase you don't need to buy smaart, there's a free alternative called open sound meter i have a video on it

  • @user-ux3ee7wo3n
    @user-ux3ee7wo3n Před 5 měsíci

    Brother Blessings, good day, I am Pastor Anderson Osorio from Colombia, I want to use the FX stereo delay in my church, but I have 2 PA speakers and a new one behind, I need to apply the delay on that speaker because the auditorium does not need 2 speakers at the back, as Would I apply this stereo delay FX to my Behringer X18 console if it is just a speaker?

    • @danielkharrat
      @danielkharrat  Před 5 měsíci

      Yes you would do method 2
      Send all your channels to a bus
      Insert the stereo delay on that bus
      (You will only use one side of the effect)

  • @dieoberbayern
    @dieoberbayern Před rokem

    Thanks!

  • @johnsurdy
    @johnsurdy Před měsícem

    Thanks for this! What does the Factor L and R do?

    • @danielkharrat
      @danielkharrat  Před měsícem +1

      @@johnsurdy divide the time if the delay

  • @pascalb6
    @pascalb6 Před 10 měsíci

    Dear Daniel, thank you so much for sharing all this knowledge with us. I was thinking if it could be possible to plug the M32c to MR18 (as stage box) using USB connection maybe ?

    • @danielkharrat
      @danielkharrat  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Unfortunately no. The mr18 cannot be used as a stage box for another mixer. If you need more i/o you can of course connect them with analog xlr cables but you cannot connect them digitally

  • @darenwashburn6830
    @darenwashburn6830 Před rokem

    Hey bro! Great video, very innovative. But you could have just bought a DBX Drive Rack Pa2 for less money than the X-Air 18. They are like $500ish. And you can set delay times on the unit.

    • @danielkharrat
      @danielkharrat  Před rokem

      We needed a digital mixer anyway because the analog console we had has a lot of limitations and is really old

    • @darenwashburn6830
      @darenwashburn6830 Před rokem

      @@danielkharrat no I hear ya bro. I have a behringer X-Air16 for gigs. I love it. Good stuff.

    • @lrogers35
      @lrogers35 Před 5 měsíci

      I have a Driverrack PA2. I’ve only seen a delay of up to 10ms. Is there a way to get higher (40-50ms)

  • @njgroven
    @njgroven Před 9 měsíci

    Thanks for this great video!
    I'm running livestreams and looking into the Behringer XR18 to replace my analog mixer. Now I'm wondering if this delay workaround could also work to delay my mic's (for lipsync with HDMI camera's) via a bus and then mix this together with video and other sources that don't need this delay. I would love to get one stereo mix out of this console with only the mic's of the people talking delayed in to my videomixer. Do you have any thoughts on this?

    • @danielkharrat
      @danielkharrat  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Yes you can make a subgroup and put the mics in that group and put the group on the main LR and insert the delay on the group

    • @njgroven
      @njgroven Před 9 měsíci

      Great! But just one more question so that I know I understand correctly. In this example; a aux on the physical device is the same as a bus in the software?
      So the only catch would be that I lose two outputs on the console, but I gain lip sync with the mics and cams :)

    • @danielkharrat
      @danielkharrat  Před 9 měsíci

      @@njgroven correct

  • @karlsaamuelhollman7028

    Hey! I did your first method, do I need to bring up the delay effect channel volume level so signal would come through? Or can I have the effect channel itself at -infinity and it will still come through

    • @danielkharrat
      @danielkharrat  Před rokem +1

      No because it's an insert. The subgroup fader should be up not the effect fader
      And because it's an insert there's no send and return
      You are inserting the effect directly in the signal chain of the subgroup
      So just keep the effect fader down, you don't need it

  • @creaturecomfort5545
    @creaturecomfort5545 Před 17 dny

    Where does Bus 5&6 come out physically?

  • @waynakins
    @waynakins Před rokem

    Thanks Daniel, with this method does this mean the Main L/R Inputs are unusable, as everything needs to be physically connected to Aux 5/6, or can Main L/R be utilized for another room where time delay is not needed?

    • @danielkharrat
      @danielkharrat  Před rokem

      Why would they be unusable? In this video I'm using aux 5-6 and the main LR. I'm using all 4 of them.
      Not everything is connected to aux 5-6
      Aux 5-6 are connected to the front speakers and main LR are connected to the back speakers
      And the subgroup 5-6 goes to the main LR.
      So you can do whatever you want there's no reason why you wouldn't be able to use the main LR

    • @waynakins
      @waynakins Před rokem

      @@danielkharrat I understand better now, thank you. So only Aux 5-6 are affected by the stereo delay? and Main LR wont need a delay? Thank you for your time.

    • @danielkharrat
      @danielkharrat  Před rokem

      @Wayne Bradley i showed 2 methods in the video. One of them delays the main LR and the other method delays the aux 5-6. It's up to you to decide which method you wanna use depending on what you want to do

  • @michaelsommer5787
    @michaelsommer5787 Před rokem

    Nice idea, but why not you use a matrix output for it and set a delay on the output?

    • @danielkharrat
      @danielkharrat  Před rokem +1

      The mr18 does not have a matrix and does not have output delays. That's the whole point of the video. I did it in that way because these features don't exist on this mixer

    • @michaelsommer5787
      @michaelsommer5787 Před rokem

      @@danielkharrat Thanks for the clarification. I use a M32 and these functions are available there. God bless you!

  • @noelbulls8628
    @noelbulls8628 Před rokem

    That’s cool but a-lot of work. I would have measured the distance between speakers and plot that measurement on the midas to obtain the delay. Done I know you test on the midas but the Midas already gives you that delay distance number for you. lol😂 good video

    • @danielkharrat
      @danielkharrat  Před rokem +2

      If you only measure the distance, it will be off by 0.5 millisecond because that's the latency of the stereo delay insert on the mr18. What i showed in the video guarantees an accurate result regardless of the latency of the insert

    • @noelbulls8628
      @noelbulls8628 Před rokem

      @@danielkharrat well yes but if you already knew this then you would have added the 0.5 milliseconds to it. I get it men. Everyone has a different way of doing things and what matters is you get the same results or close enough.

  • @grahampetersen4826
    @grahampetersen4826 Před 10 měsíci

    Hi Daniel can u help with this problem my bus 6 no sound it worked a week ago thanks in advance

    • @danielkharrat
      @danielkharrat  Před 10 měsíci

      Do you mean the xlr output 6 is not outputing any sound? Or there's no signal in the bus itself?

    • @grahampetersen4826
      @grahampetersen4826 Před 10 měsíci

      @@danielkharrat hi Daniel there’s signal but no output

    • @danielkharrat
      @danielkharrat  Před 10 měsíci

      @@grahampetersen4826 go to routing -> aux out
      And assign aux 6 to bus 6

    • @grahampetersen4826
      @grahampetersen4826 Před 10 měsíci

      @@danielkharrat hi Daniel it’s routed it shows signal on the meters but

    • @grahampetersen4826
      @grahampetersen4826 Před 10 měsíci

      But no sound

  • @kevinortega7773
    @kevinortega7773 Před rokem

    Hey man thank i got a xr16 think it has that and it does'nt and geoups did no help you self my life

  • @xoverfher
    @xoverfher Před rokem

    You could teach us how to make a downgrade from iOS 16 to iOS 15

    • @danielkharrat
      @danielkharrat  Před rokem

      I don't use any apple products so the answer is unfortunately no

    • @VladicD
      @VladicD Před rokem

      @@danielkharrat very good decision :'D

  • @timjbowers
    @timjbowers Před 6 měsíci

    Does a simpler way work? What if you set bus 5-6 post fader instead of subgroup and add your delay there, then use 5-6 for delays and L-R for your main mix?

    • @danielkharrat
      @danielkharrat  Před 6 měsíci

      Yes you can do that

    • @timjbowers
      @timjbowers Před 6 měsíci

      My apologies. Next time I'll finish watching the video first. Nice work. I'm using this today.