The Extremely Dark Order ARC Troopers Were Only Allowed to Use in EMERGENCIES
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 19. 12. 2020
- The willingness to execute an order like this should have set off some Jedi alarm bells tbh...
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Killing his own brethren before Anakin made it mainstream
A real hipster
Anakin: *kills younglings*
Alpha 17: He stole f*cking whole flow word for word bar for bar!!!
At least there was no women and children too in the cloning facilities for the most part though there was probably still at least 100 child clones that died
George Lucas: *Says Star Wars is for kids*
Arc Troopers: *Willing of killing their younger brothers*
George Tends to be chaotic
I mean, I don't see how that isn't for kids
Not to mention an eniter school of innocent children being slain by anakin
He didn't write that part though
@@fulcruum7567 anakin fid
Poor Alpha. Nowadays, he hasn't been recanonized yet.
@Victor Nikolai nope
He was originally going to be in The Clone Wars!
It's fine. As a Legends fan, I'm glad we have some exclusives. Alpha-17, the Null-Class ARC Troopers, Omega Squad Republic Commandos, the Battle of Jabiim, the 2003 CW series, Labyrinth of Evil. Plenty of stuff for us EU fans.
Such a tragedy that Jabiim was not an arc the the Clone Wars
@@indianajones4321 Jabiim is still my favorite Clone Wars era story/battle. A huge reason behind why I prefer the Pre-TCW timeline. I love both and I grew up with TCW though.
That's what I loved about the Alphas they were like a bunch of Julius Ceasars. Intelligence used to fuel pure cold and calculating rational strategy. If the best way to stop the enemy was to kill developing clones they would do it with out hesitation. That said while they certainly would've won the war with Alphas running the show, if they weren't kept on a leash they may have actually concluded to disntergrate the republic and create a military dictator in order to win.
May? They would the only question would be who would be the new military group in charge.
@@fountainchristain Honestly I could see it going Kamakura shogunate real fast where they over throw the old regime install a Shogun and then smaller military overlords for every region or in this case planet responsible for raising and maintaining forces on that world and have a degree of autonomy. Though unlike the samurai I don't think they'll turn on each other which would actually create a strong flexible system of government. It could also go full Roman empire where they got an Imperator military dictator chosen by the military then military governors and powerful generals in full control while allowing the senate to exist to manage affairs they don't find important enough for their attention and to create the illusion of a republic.
@@theempiredidnothingwrong3227 I mean most of the Alpha ARCs endorsed the Galactic Empire, even if disagreeing with some military decisions (such as introduction of human recruits and additional strains of clone) and the more political side of it the vast majority fully endorsed Order 66 and the restructure of the Republic into the Empire. If the Alphas were in charge the Jedi would have been removed from military command immediately, relegated back to minimal influence at best (if not just outright put under the gun) and directed towards commando raids with very few having any sort of influence on governance or military decisions. While some liked their Jedi commanders and most held respect for the abilities of the Jedi as individuals most Alphas judged the Jedi as inefficient, unwilling to make the necessary sacrifices and too incompetent to hold command positions, as well as dangerous to the Republic as a separate entity.
Because of their free thinking ability, the desertion rate for ARC troopers was also the highest among clone troopers. One of them, Alpha-02 "Spar" suffered an issue and began getting genetic memories from Jango Fett, later becoming the leader of the Mandalorians.
So yes, your analysis of the ARC troopers is very accurate.
@@pubcle or the Alpha-ARCs would try to militarize the Jedi like in the Old Republic, forcing them to give up their ideals to do what needs to be done
Man... thereâs another order that Involves killing kids in Star Wars lol đ
CHILLLLLL
Who would've thought?
-stares in order 66-
If there's a 66 is there a 69
@@Kitty-ion Order 69: Have {REDACTED} {DATA EXPUNGED} with every Jedi or clone nearby
I miss Clone 99, he may have been defective. He was the greatest
He was never defective in our hearts đ
@@geetslys Same.
Yeah he was great it was sad when clone 99 dieđ€§đą
Maybe he was the only clone who wasnât defective.đ
Palpatine talking to 99: execute order 66
99: nah sounds boring i got more important things to do
"Kamino. The Main Hive of the Clone Army. Distinct lack of Genetic diversity."
_This comment is giving off reaper vibes._
@@GreaterGrievobeast55
This is not a reference to him
@@nobleman9393 i think he means mass effect reaper vibes, not the overwatch one
@@itspetahhh5304 Oh, I see
This comment is the Sweet Home Alabama of Star Wars
The Clone Army is literally the coolest army in the history of science fiction. Just in front of the Mobile Infantry and the UNSC.
but behind the imperium of man (excluding space marines)
@@smokestack3327 you mean the ugly generic guard armor looks better than halo marines or mobile infantry? Ehhhhh not so much unless you ment that space marines look cooler than them
@@GummyKermit each one has a strength and weakness. The MF had the numbers but lack real training, the UNSC had the equipment and trained troops but are mainly using bullets, same with the MI, the clones are the best but only had 6 million troops for the republic, and imperium of man out number all of them but the troops are similar to the MI, where they have the numbers
@@JoseHernandez-xv2bt the imperial guard is well trained and their weapons are some of the best out of all factions its just the foes they fight are rather op
@@GummyKermit there are so many different uniforms and armour mate its so diverse when we see them fight other humand they do brilliantly scions are basically republic commandos but better
Alpha-17, and the Legends Null and Alpha ARCs in general were IMO far more interesting, unique and badass. Sure TCW did a great job humanizing all the clones and giving them lots of bad ass and emotional moments, but when it comes to the ARCs the EU had them beat. Also the Republic Commandos by default.
A big red flag was the willingness to use a slave army.
A big red flag was allowing the Clone Army to come about after Jango tried to wax Obi-Wan.
imagine the rebels find a way to hack into the chips to make them good again
@@JacobGen another big red flag as the willingness to use the clones of a man that killed 6 or more jedi with his bare hands in a cold calculated rage. Clones of a jedi killer...how the mighty have fallen.
The more dark star wars gets, the more I like it. It gets boring always being positive and happy
I had a very different idea of how the prequels should have gone down, certainly darker and more nuanced.
Both are needed! Only a sith deals in absolutes.
@@geetslys of course! But for awhile it was way toooo light, I'm happy to see a more darker aspect.
I mean there is only show much you can show in the movies
@@bombomos thatâs why I think there needs to be a Star Wars horror movie, maybe an order 66 or even a Vaderâs castle type deal
Youâd think the planet where the clones are made would be more protected
YOU WOULD THINK SO
Nah, it'll be fine
To be fair, Kamino was so unknown to the Republic that Dooku could remove it without anyone noticing. I was out of the way, far outta the core, and mostly unknown.
That being said, it should've been more protected than any other planet, as it was absolutely the most valuable asset the Rebulic had in the war.
@@kylebutler9865 It doubles back if you don't really protect it because they'll ignore it.
Youd think that problem would have solved itself what with all the clones
This was one of the first comic/light novels I ever read. And will always be one of the reasons I got so interested in Star Wars. Its a shame this version of ARC troopers wasnât fully explored. They where such units and the tech and stuff they used was amazing.
I loved the older legends comics, pre inhibitor chip, the clones, not just ARCs show a very brutal and remorseless ability to follow orders multiple times, it was just a darker undertone that was a bit more adult then "they can't control themselves" bit of a cop out if you ask me, but when I find myself complaining like an old man I remember filonis words "star wars is for children" and I agree so I do see the inhibitior chips need in the plot
I just love the Alphas. Theyâre pure Jango- badass to the bone!
(Though the Null-ARCs were my personal favourites. Nothing beats Ordo, Mereel and the others).
Wait, Mandalorians attacked Kamino as well?
Bro, i learn so much from this, even if its not the topic of the video.
"pick up your jaws jedi and cover my back"
What a funny thing to hear
That's just wow
An interesting video
Given that everything in Attack of the Clones relating to the clones was very dodgy, this should've been a red flag. A bright red flag. A bright red flag being waved frantically by Padmé whilst she's wearing a light up and musical Christmas jumper with "This is dodgy" spelled out in multicoloured LEDs and being sung constantly by both the jumper and Padmé. Denial of assets is one thing, but blowing up the whole facility? That would be tantamount to an immediate strategic defeat for the Republic, as no cloning facility means no clones reinforcements, so eventually the Republic would run out of clones. What could be so important that immediate, total defeat would be preferable?
Also, given the amount of crazy crap that surrounded the clones (like the fact their template was working for the CIS, or that it got ordered by a Jedi master who conveniently didn't tell his colleagues and then died, or that they were conveniently ready just in time for the mother of all wars), this should've been rang alarm bells and raised an entire flag shop of red flags.
In defence of the Jedi, in the heat of battle, it kinda makes sense. Denial of assets. The Clone younglings could be tortured, used for experiments to develop biochem or radiological weapons, or many other hideous tortures, so killing them would've been a mercy. But after the battle, when everyone is sitting down and having a cuppa tea to calm the nerves, their brains should've put it together.
My mind just went with preventing their easy use as spies against the republic so I dont blame jedi for using this logic either. The trooper even says "loyal to the republic" or dead so I feel this may have been the truth. That being said Jango may have had this even better reason as well
Makes it that much more difficult being a kid in star wars!
You either Get Decaptated by accidently calling some Brunette by the rank of master, being killed by your older brothers who had orders too, r being killed by the clones who you had command over.
To my understanding, the control chips inside clones heads are a recent addition to the Canon. The clones in legends didn't have any control chips.
They never had them in legends you are correct
Well that was before episode II
The expanded universe is the true star wars canon not the Disney horseshit
@@tylerdunn9683 clone wars was eu
@@juancarlos-uv4lh not the inhibitor chips
That was a brilliant reconciliation of canon and legends lore, and as a big fan of the Republic comics, I am most pleased. Everything proceeded as Geetsly has foreseen!
If the seppies can't destroy kamino! We will do it for them!! Says the arc troopers đđ
I miss the old good Star Wars Republic comics from Dark Horse
Indeed
@@geetslys but now its the marvel star wars comics that are canon like the darth vader comics and the doctor aphra comics.
Love the original battlefront intro!
This was interesting. And it makes sense, to some degree, why ARC troopers would be ordered to kill unborn clones.
As a sidenote, I honestly believe the Battle of Kamino in EAfront 2 is a combination of this battle and the second (only, if you go by canon) battle of Kamino due the fact that it features similarities to both battles despite being based on the second battle of Kamino.
Ah yes. The edgiest clone
The more I learn about this most known part of Star Wars lore the more I see parallels to the modern day
Specifically the notion that the bad guys often play both sides & few who are wrapped up in one particular side even notice that
The Alphas were basically the perfect soldiers. Able to think independently with unconventional tactics, but still follows orders.
Wake up honey, Geetslyâs posted again
GET THE KIDS
@@geetslys what kids?
More like: "GET THE CLONES!"
I actually still have this issue. Got it way waaaaay back.
Ah yes, the real ARC troopers; Alpha and Null classes. Not this promotable rank nonsense from the show
@The Desert Fox that was exactly my point. The original ARC Trooper concepts were not, they were genetically different and trained completely differently than the rank and file clones
I feel like they shouldnât have been called Arcâ. They were very different compared to the Original Nulls and Alphas. The promotable ARCs should of been a whole nother unit.
Although the armor could of remained similar tho
I remember the ass. Really came close to losing good future Troopers
Alpha-17 is the closest Star Wars will ever get to Doomguy
Iâm curious as to the story where the Mandalorian Protectors attacked Kamino.
The clones were trained by Mandalorians and were even taught the Mando ways, so there must have been some conflict within the Protectors during this time.
Or so you would think.
Too bad they didn't have Rey back then she could have solved all this clone wars nonsense with a stolen x-wing and 2 light sabers.
Was Tapoca City the only cloning facility on Kamino?
If so, it was probably very short sighted of them
Why not split them up to various facilities? He's the breeding site in one city, Infantry training here, pilot training their, naval operations there and so on
OR have the same facilities on multiple sites and then you can breed and train them exponentially faster?
Tipoca city is the capital of Kamino but, on all the planet you have city who product clones
I always assumed sidious had complete knowledge of how it's done and had back up facilities and kaminoaians. Why not clone the kaminoaians and program them to run clone factories? Sidious is probably the greatest tactician in movie history.
@@dustinb1070 The specificity of Kaminoan is to product clone, clone, who will help them too, but they're clone, not Kaminoan, you have clone on Kamino who have their specification, like the Rancor Battalion or the Security team
@@dustinb1070 Well, he did set up another facility on a place called spartax to produce viable clones in 1 year rather than 10 but those clones were unstable
And I've heard that he made clones from sources OTHER than Jango Fett as well but I think that they were all inferior to the Kamino clones
As far as Sidious being a master tactician? I'd say that he made some of the dumbest decision in the universe
Dumber than Hitler?
Maybe not, but pretty dumb
He, after all GAVE the Rebellion the location of the Death Star 2 in order to try to destroy them AND he thought that 1, he had absolute control of Vader and 2, He was sure that Luke would turn to the Dark Side
@@ronin4087 I take it that English is not your first language because it's hard for me to try to understand what you're saying
I don't mean to insult you but it is hard for me to understand you
Can you do a video explaining stormtrooper accuracy? Thanks to the Mandolorian, we have a lot more footage of Stormtroopers in combat to assess their capabilities on top of the movies, Rebels, and other canon sources. Also, from a reddit post: when Ben Kenobi said that line at the sand crawler, he was thinking of the former Clone Troopers who were rebranded as Stormtroopers, who as we all know were amazing soldiers, not the lower quality human recruits the Empire had replaced them with while he was in exile (completely unaware of the change) on Tatooine. Some more data for you to consider.
Would love to see these guys (alpha) go against a troop of first order or Final order SPL units
Now this is a Story that could be told on a live action Clone Wars series. They can show many different missions and stuff that not everyone knows about. Plus live action Republic Commandos!
Good luck with that idea. Darth Kennedy the Woke will make sure none of it ever comes to fruition.
The Kaminoans every time another clone is born: *another fatherless child*
They grow up loyal to the republic, or they donât grow up at all
Makes sense. Why even create a slave army if they donât work for you. Why would you let your slave you payed for just not work for you smh Jedi ethics are bs
I just went to your new video to comment on The Front
Try and find it.
Found it
You used the term, 'younglings' for the clones. I thought that only pplied to Jedi kids? I don't really know, just curious.
You're correct. He made a mistake.
There were no Control Chips in Legends, and this is an Exclusively Legends Story.
I remember this book. I had it once. I don't know what happened
i wished all star wars comics had this quality of artwork
"3 Jedi and an Arc Trooper walk into a bar."
It's never made sense how jedi could be posted on Topeka city without realizing that the clones were being programmed with orders detrimental to them and the republic
Okay, first, so glad to finally see you cover this battle, you've covered other battles set during the Clone Wars in Legends, but this is probably one of my favorites.
And second, I didn't know there was a Third Battle of Kamino. I only knew of the first two because of the OG Battlefront game and because of Season three of the Clone Wars. I now know what I'm going to be looking up on the Wookipedia site later. :)
There's 2 in Legends and 1 in Canon
Thank you for using the True clone wars comics
In the legend the troopers always knew the reality of order 66 right? Maybe this is the reason, he knew the truth and every clone is prepared to kill everyone to complete the orders.
The clones were all trained in the Contingency Orders, which included orders involving killing or peacefully removing the Chancellor, Jedi, GAR officers, ect. C:
@@godsdj7316 that type of training was exclusive to the ARC troopers by the way
@@defalttheloner According to Rise of the Separatists, each clone trooper learned the contingency orders. What source do you have that says only ARCs learned them? o:
@@godsdj7316 every source of information shows that the ARC had way more knowledge about the war than the others, they show too that they had more training in this type of things. All clones have the basics but the ARC get the whole
I remember reading this comic back in grade 2
Jeez...I had this comic...it was a hard back special
Hey Geetslyâs! Happy New Year!
Jango didn't give a shit about the conflict between the Sith and the Jedi. All he cared about was that the Kaminoans paid well, and it was an easier job than bounty hunting.
i like how your intro is the classic star wars battlefront 1 loading screen
EMERGENCY MEETOMG
I always love watching geetsly's videos
It's dark but it makes sense, not only would they do vivisectionist and torture on the young clones for info, but likely it was also seen as a dark mercy on Jango's part. Even though he was distant too all but one of the clones (Boba Fett), he likely still would know that these clones would be butchered and kill even more in humanely than anything the kaminoans could dream of in their darkest fantasies.
I love your stuff keep the great work up!!!
The Senate had all dark power on his side.
No wonder Anakin liked the clones so much
DAMN
Never been conviced by this ARC Trooper. It was like "YEAH LOOK AT ME! I'M BADASS!" while few panels next, two of his brothers, supposingly as strong, are killed almost off screen like randoms. It felt terribly anticlimactic to me.
Truly there is no stopping the ARC troopers.
Alpha 17 is a Mad lad what can we say
Wait, if Jango DNA is so valuable to the confederation, why not pay him for a blood sample? He only worked for them right before he died. Or maybe grab his body on your way off Geonosis? I'm just saying, if they wanted a DNA sample they really didn't need to attack Kamino
Throughout all the Star Wars videos I've seen on CZcams, there's one topic I've never seen covered by any content creator, and I would love if you could make a video on it.
*What does it mean to fall to the dark side?*
In one of your Revan videos, you note that "Revan did not fall to the dark side. He chose the dark side." I've noticed a recurring theme across Star Wars media (notably dramatized in some of the video games like Knights of the Old Republic and Jedi: Fallen Order) where light side force users who end up embracing the dark side seem to undergo dramatic shifts in their personality and outlook, to the point of joining forces with former enemies. It's always been a big elephant in the room for me because the changes go beyond the psychological effects you would expect to see when someone becomes mad with power.
An example:
In Episode 3, Anakin has no problem marching to the Jedi Temple and murdering dozens and dozens of children after his fall to the dark side, something he would have considered unthinkable before even if he was frustrated with the Jedi. Even his desire to save Padme would not have made "kill younglings for Palpatine so he'll teach me" an acceptable solution to him prior to his fall. Something about the dark side fundamentally changed who he was as a person.
I've seen many videos on dark side vs. light side powers and differences between the Jedi and Sith, but this is one area I've never seen explored; getting right to the core of one of the most fundamental differences between the light side and dark side of the force: *Why and how the dark side changes people in ways the light side does not*
*Why do most dark side users fall to the dark side, rather than choosing the dark side? What makes those individuals who are not corrupted by it, such as Revan and the Nightsisters, different?*
*What is it about the dark side that inherently tempts force users; why is it a struggle to resist even if you've never used or embraced the dark side before? (like being addicted to a drug you've never used)*
*How does falling to the dark side change someone to the point of them even turning on former allies or joining forces with former enemies? For someone who is being actively converted or corrupted, such as the Inquisitors, how much of this change results from coercion or brainwashing techniques, and how much of it is due to the nature of the dark side itself?*
I really appreciate your videos. They're some of the most informative on CZcams and helped me find out about so much Star Wars media I would have otherwise missed. Thank you for continuing to make such great content.
The dark side itself is not corruptive. It's the power that comes with the dark side that is addictive.
Because you get so much power from the dark side (Sith alchemy, force powers, etc.) you begin to see yourself as better than everyone else because of your powers.
We all know where that goes. . .
But yeah, check out Darth Vectivus.
Powerful Dark Lord of the Sith who was not corrupted by the power the dark side gave him.
Another thing one would note about force users is they're not only attuned to the force, unlike the rest of the galaxy's population, but also *susceptible* to changes in the force, like how Yedi felt the disruption of order 66, or how a Jedi would fall to the dark side of the force. Being attuned to the force accentuates any change a Jedi would feel in any way, especially considering the Republic era Jedi Order would never teach anything about the dark side, often demonizing it and regarding it as forbidden under any and all circumstances.
It's no wonder Jedi would fall so hard under the effects of the dark side. Consider it similar to an average human being introduced to highly addictive drug, and not knowing anything on the downsides and negative consequences, or anything, really, on the use of said drugs.
i have a hard copy of this book! got it when i was a kid
I had this book when i was a kid, wish i kept it :/
...no idea where it even went, shiz just vanish when you grow up.
I love that line: "they grow up loyal to the republic or they don't grow up at all"
'Good soldiers follow orders'
Really young ones could be used to infiltrate and be double agents
Amazing.
for beings with such foresight it's kinda funny how little they questioned the red flags that were pretty.... worrisome
If this guy was canon this conflict wouldnt last that long
Costing some clone younglings
Principles of war. Resources can be destroyed to deny them to the enemy.
Anakin: *Happy noises*
If I canât have it, no one can
oh... so thats dark
This vid feels like de ja vu, as if it were videos on /alpha/nulls/arcs in general and/or kamino battles.
From what I know the jedi knew about order 66, just like about all if those 150 orders just they didn't find it likely happening (but it's nit surprising).
Brutal
Dont forget about learning of the orders as well and jedi could have put forth order 65
Ayy bro love the content
TYSM
How was order 66 implanted or indoctrinated into the clones?
I mean this isn't the first time they had to kill their brothers. The Clone Rebellion that the 501st had to put down was another time
Also from legends
Good afternoon folks.
Victory or Death that was the way of the Clones of the Grand Army of the Republic.
0:42 bruh x'D
The join our brotherhood, or not at all
I can't see the source material listed anywhere. Why does all sw channels civering comics never show what series the story is taken from?
They grow up loyal to the republic or they dont grow up at all. Fuckin ice bro love these darker comics
What trooper is that in the thumbnail is it Ford?
Geetslys do you have a favorite Jedi and why
Jar Jar. No explanation needed.
@@geetslys He said Jedi, not dark lord of the Sith.
Geetsly's lol
my favorite jedi is FBI
More info on Alpha 17.
Master 17, there are too many of them. What are we going to do?
damn bro
Its kinda funny. Both armies one of metal built on a dry almost dead world and one of flesh made on a water world