I understand your thinking on covering the bolts with copper grease but unless the torque specifications you use specify wet threads you will be over tightening all the fasteners substantially. Take a look at torque test channel video on torque wrenches, you will be amazed by how much a fastener is over tightened when you use anti seize on the threads.
@@khalidacosta7133most MOT will get their magic hammer out. Any surface rust will be picked up and heavy corrosion picked up regardless where it is on the frame. Just look at the shock absorber the state that is in.
Great job mate, that's some scary 💩. I had a lower wishbone just suddenly snap while on holiday, slammed the wheel right back in the arch. Quick trip to get parts all was able to get home. 🤙
Depends when the mot was done, the mot only covers you for the time while the test is done, if it looked ok at the time of test and was still attached then nothing to report
I have a 2011 Vauxhall Insignia estate which I have owned for 12 years. About 4 weeks ago I received a letter from Vauxhall offering me to take my car to the local Vauxhall agents and have the rear toe in plates on the rear subframe checked. They are the plates you would use to adjust the tracking on the rear wheels. I took the car in and they replaced the plates free of charge. I think looking at the state of that front subframe on that 2015 Adam they might begin a recall on that.
People should protect their cars for rust, as the manufacturer don't do this properly anymore, like in the old days. I gave my toyota Auris 2013 a Dinitrol treatment and it's like new. Don't let it rot away!
I Replaced my rear lower arms on my Tiguan took it to Quick fit to get 4 wheel tracking after and fitter told me i was a cowboy using copper ease on bolts to my reply i did my mechanic apprenticeship before you were born lad maybe your not a mechanic just a fitter . Its nice to see some mechanics still know how to do a proper job
Just Google Corsa D (same car, different body) rusty front sub-frame. Loads of stuff about how Vauxhall main dealers were (possibly still are??) replacing rusted out front sub-frames for free for cars well out of warranty.
The four rear bolts are supposed to clamp four "bearings"........they were on the old one.....not just washers but have ball bearings in them.....to locate correctly and prevent looseing and potential noise..... May i suggest four new bolts and a set of bearing washers.....
Glance under your Audi A6 at the rear subframe. You may be shocked too. Or your BMW suv.. Or your Dacia. Or your Kia/Hyundai.. We get all those in with rusted out subframes at very young ages. Wanted to say too Baz, we're seeing more & more yokes in with knackered injectors (diesels) & the owners are stunned that they're worn out & at the cost of them new. Most we can get reconditioned, some we can't - but trying to explain that injectors last about 120-140k running low sulphur diesel before the tips are worn due to absolutely insane injection pressures of common-rails is like trying to explain algebra to a squirrel. People just get pi55ed off that they suddenly have a bill - and then more pi55ed off that getting the injectors reconditioned takes ages as the reconditioners are swamped. They are here anyway. Plus the injectors have often fecked the DPF through over-fuelling.... which REALLY gets peoples backs up. "I need what????" You seeing that?
What is people's opinion on brands? Do you get what you pay for? Or is there just a brand that you use because you trust it? I need rear drop links on a 14 year old insignia. I went to order 2 BGA ones, but out of stock, any suggestions? Delphi, blueprint, that sort of thing it's 14 years old so not looking break the bank but want reliability. Thanks
How on earth did the splines "turn" on the drive shaft, surely it's a soiled piece of steel? I would have covered the new sub frame in wax/grease if that was my car. Still at least it was another wet belt😂
why change the whole drive shaft and not just the inner coupling feel for the customer as new subframe and all the other parts shame on you vauxhall you have sold the product down the river cheap cheap cheap
Sorry Baz , did you just say 2015 ? The audio goes quiet when you say 2000 & …… this is a reminder of the Austin Maxi / Allegro / morris Minor when the front wheel hubs use to collapse through lack of MTCE ie grease , I’m pretty much sure you remember those days , I certainly do & im 53 but this appears to be lack of shear corrosion protection or quality workman ship from the factory, that exhaust down pipe connection with those unbelievably rotten nuts , is just another unacceptable issue waiting to happen , Id get it if it were a 15-20 year old car but less than 10 years , really ?? it needs stainless nuts instead of these cheap shite steel crap they fit , glad I don’t own one of these but good vid once again Baz , & no I’ve never seen a drive shaft spline twist like that either , can only guess that when the wheel locked against the arch , it must have skidded till it stopped while still in motion , putting the drive shaft under major stress while in gear , see you on your next vid mate regardless of what it is (more eco boost wet belts lol 😂) 👍🏆👍 🤙
They are cheap to buy used, the parts are cheap, £154 for sub frame, drive shaft £53 new parts. Also super easy to work on yourself. Once sorted cheap reliable motors 😊
Ziebart.maybe should have had 20 fifteen minute sessions. Something wrong here was vauxhall buying aftermarket third party sub frames for their production line.
15 plate 😔 Nothing is built to last anymore!
Great work mate
Great job mate, that suspension coil spring compressor looks the dogs tatties! Safety first 👍
Great tip on the driveshaft circlip Baz 👍😎
See loads of vauxhall Adams and corsa like this as a roadside patrol
I understand your thinking on covering the bolts with copper grease but unless the torque specifications you use specify wet threads you will be over tightening all the fasteners substantially.
Take a look at torque test channel video on torque wrenches, you will be amazed by how much a fastener is over tightened when you use anti seize on the threads.
Another quality job. Tidy 👌
Looks like this car has been running on a bent MOT for years🤔
Dunno... the corrosion seemed to happen inside the subframe where it can't be seen.
@@khalidacosta7133most MOT will get their magic hammer out. Any surface rust will be picked up and heavy corrosion picked up regardless where it is on the frame. Just look at the shock absorber the state that is in.
Shocking condition . I had a BMW 3 series the same year and the black paint was still on the suspension components. It was that clean.
Great job mate, that's some scary 💩. I had a lower wishbone just suddenly snap while on holiday, slammed the wheel right back in the arch. Quick trip to get parts all was able to get home. 🤙
Shouldn't an MOT pick that up?! Scary.
Yes
Nah just a little rust😂😂😂
Depends when the mot was done, the mot only covers you for the time while the test is done, if it looked ok at the time of test and was still attached then nothing to report
I have a 2011 Vauxhall Insignia estate which I have owned for 12 years. About 4 weeks ago I received a letter from Vauxhall offering me to take my car to the local Vauxhall agents and have the rear toe in plates on the rear subframe checked. They are the plates you would use to adjust the tracking on the rear wheels. I took the car in and they replaced the plates free of charge. I think looking at the state of that front subframe on that 2015 Adam they might begin a recall on that.
Estate??? Do you live in your estate?? 😂😂
@@bigdaddymak1439 Always called them that. They call them sports tourers now. Another older term for them would have been shooting brake.
How come this wasn't picked up on the last MOT ?
People should protect their cars for rust, as the manufacturer don't do this properly anymore, like in the old days. I gave my toyota Auris 2013 a Dinitrol treatment and it's like new. Don't let it rot away!
Is the car worth all the cost of the work and parts?
I Replaced my rear lower arms on my Tiguan took it to Quick fit to get 4 wheel tracking after and fitter told me i was a cowboy using copper ease on bolts to my reply i did my mechanic apprenticeship before you were born lad maybe your not a mechanic just a fitter . Its nice to see some mechanics still know how to do a proper job
Wow, scary. Great video as always.
Just Google Corsa D (same car, different body) rusty front sub-frame. Loads of stuff about how Vauxhall main dealers were (possibly still are??) replacing rusted out front sub-frames for free for cars well out of warranty.
Great job 👍
How did that passed on last MOT ?? Surely it's been rusty for years
My thought 2. 🫣
Wowsers 🤯 that's bad 😞 great job mate!! Where did you get the subframe from if you don't mind me asking 😊
Usual Vauxhall issues
bloodyhell baz its only 9 years old!!! how has that rusted through so quickly??
Baz what model launch do you use ? And love your knowledge and skills
The four rear bolts are supposed to clamp four "bearings"........they were on the old one.....not just washers but have ball bearings in them.....to locate correctly and prevent looseing and potential noise.....
May i suggest four new bolts and a set of bearing washers.....
Didn’t you have to fit the spacers on the back bolts of the subframe ?
Glance under your Audi A6 at the rear subframe. You may be shocked too. Or your BMW suv.. Or your Dacia. Or your Kia/Hyundai.. We get all those in with rusted out subframes at very young ages.
Wanted to say too Baz, we're seeing more & more yokes in with knackered injectors (diesels) & the owners are stunned that they're worn out & at the cost of them new. Most we can get reconditioned, some we can't - but trying to explain that injectors last about 120-140k running low sulphur diesel before the tips are worn due to absolutely insane injection pressures of common-rails is like trying to explain algebra to a squirrel. People just get pi55ed off that they suddenly have a bill - and then more pi55ed off that getting the injectors reconditioned takes ages as the reconditioners are swamped. They are here anyway. Plus the injectors have often fecked the DPF through over-fuelling.... which REALLY gets peoples backs up. "I need what????" You seeing that?
Same problem on the Corsa.
More product placement than the trueman show.
What is people's opinion on brands? Do you get what you pay for? Or is there just a brand that you use because you trust it? I need rear drop links on a 14 year old insignia. I went to order 2 BGA ones, but out of stock, any suggestions?
Delphi, blueprint, that sort of thing it's 14 years old so not looking break the bank but want reliability. Thanks
Reminds me of Vauxhall's from the 50's and 60's. If you listened carefully you could hear them rusting.
HAAAAAA, nice one
How on earth did the splines "turn" on the drive shaft, surely it's a soiled piece of steel?
I would have covered the new sub frame in wax/grease if that was my car.
Still at least it was another wet belt😂
Bloody hell!!
Subframe slightly corroded but not seriously weakened... maybe so if you're blind or bent
Do u not swap the 4 spacers off the old subframe to the new one Baz
It would be interesting to see who motd the car
Usual as an advisory to simply note (corrosion to sub frame) if hasn’t yet structurally failed but then goes on to fail within the 12 month period.
why change the whole drive shaft and not just the inner coupling feel for the customer as new subframe and all the other parts shame on you vauxhall you have sold the product down the river cheap cheap cheap
I'm pretty sure tht cost more then the vehicle it's self
That’s amazing car rot don’t see it that bad in Aus.
The owner must live by the sea or something.
…or park in the sea.
Scotland and lots of road salt.
Sorry Baz , did you just say 2015 ? The audio goes quiet when you say 2000 & …… this is a reminder of the Austin Maxi / Allegro / morris Minor when the front wheel hubs use to collapse through lack of MTCE ie grease , I’m pretty much sure you remember those days , I certainly do & im 53 but this appears to be lack of shear corrosion protection or quality workman ship from the factory, that exhaust down pipe connection with those unbelievably rotten nuts , is just another unacceptable issue waiting to happen , Id get it if it were a 15-20 year old car but less than 10 years , really ?? it needs stainless nuts instead of these cheap shite steel crap they fit , glad I don’t own one of these but good vid once again Baz , & no I’ve never seen a drive shaft spline twist like that either , can only guess that when the wheel locked against the arch , it must have skidded till it stopped while still in motion , putting the drive shaft under major stress while in gear , see you on your next vid mate regardless of what it is (more eco boost wet belts lol 😂) 👍🏆👍 🤙
2013
@@robevans8625 2013 ? but even so its still a young car in my opinion as these age of cars don’t lose their appearance & still look newish 👍
And people want fast cheap mot's
You need a subframe ….oh no …..it gets worse a shock and driveshaft…..turned into expensive job
OMG no way is that a vauxhall thats those peugeot cars terrible metal that car is not too old
Nothing to do with Peugeot it's too old for that
Part of the same group now
Terrible car. Stay away from vauxhalls
They are cheap to buy used, the parts are cheap, £154 for sub frame, drive shaft £53 new parts. Also super easy to work on yourself. Once sorted cheap reliable motors 😊
Ziebart.maybe should have had 20 fifteen minute sessions. Something wrong here was vauxhall buying aftermarket third party sub frames for their production line.