Hi Baz great video! Ford tech here. On the ecoboost if you hold down the accelerator pedal as you crank it disables the injectors so it wont start as long as you holding down the pedal. just saves you getting in and out of the car to plug coils back in.
Holy christ , I have a eco sport and am paranoid about the wet belt which is why I have the oil changed and flushed every year, Wish I still had my mk 5 cortina which took me in my home garage about 2 hours to replace myself ! Oh how the world has made things so much harder 😂
Planning tp do this on my son's car at the end of August when he's away on holidays. Keep the wet belt videos coming Baz, I'll be a proper expert by then without ever having touched one. Seriously though, I'm fully expecting to have a mare of a time with the exhaust and A/C pump so I'll start giving them a few squirts of the ol' penetrating fluid in the weeks leading up to it.
The internal dipstick tube is such a good idea. It doesn't get in the way when you're working on things outside the engine, and also doesn't have that annoying issue of getting stuck like normal ones (the water / rust trap where they go into the block on most engines).
Use the Correct Oil and Change it Regularly and these can last just as well as anything else 👍 It's always the people who do no maintenance that complain the loudest when they have problems.
@@khalidacosta7133 I have to disagree. I worked for a taxi firm that ran a fleet of Peugeots. When i started there, they had about 50 cars. They were serviced every 10k by our own workshop. Every Monday morning there would be a queue of broken Peugeots. Now, the same firm has close to 200 Totota's and the workshop is dead apart from regular servicing, tyres and brakes.
I really enjoyed watching that. I love Alfas and, 15-20 years ago a £350 cam belt and water pump was essential on twin spark engine. On another EcoBoost video the cost was £1200 inc VAT. So you can see why people might avoid it. My point is, even Fords are now as complex and expensive as Alfas 😳
Would have loved to see the state of both wet belts you removed. I have been in contact with Dayco - Ford's wet belts manufacturer, and they claim Ford has told them not to give out information on which models, or production dates as to when the "upgraded" PTFE coated teeth belts were fitted as standard in the factory.
@@bazmeredith Love your channel ! Its a great place to learn and admire what a professional can do with cars! My partner's Fiesta is 2013 1.0 80ps 40K miles non turbo engine that will need to come to you in the next month or two for wet belt change. Wonder if you can do a vid to compare if the non turbo 1.0 is any easier to do or still the same as turbo versions.... Great vid by the way , much much to learn !
Amazing !. A long job which is well done by those who know. I’m not sure how involved it would be, but with such a high mileage engine, I would have been tempted to replace the oil pump whilst it was accessible.
Loved my 125 Ecoboost Fiesta, even better when I SuperChipped it to 155BHP. Kept right on top of the oil and filter changes, but sold it at 85K due to needing a bigger car for work. Looks like you could do with a 5 litre tub of Resolva 24 to get rid of that growth in the roof, before it does anymore damage.
TBH i seen them do milage like that, with no issue and not been looked after. But also seen 4 year old cars full ford service history and snap. So many have snapped or stripped the belts with good service history. And then some that don't The only thing I can put it down too, is the quality of the belt, belt manufacturing is the problem I feel and its luck of the draw of you happen t get a good one 🙄🙄
Thank you for the wonderful education. What a horrid design of engine, which is not designed for reliability or maintenance. I am so glad that my engine uses a timing chain and has no exhaust turbo.
Ford obviously designed that engine with giving their dealers a lot of work later on! Hate to think how much that job was. Thankfully I have a Focus 150TDCI but that will need a normal belt at 10 years, three years away for me but I have only got 45500 on the clock. Very interesting and no swearing!!
Need a induction heater Baz. I got 1 few years ago now and i use it loads. Its got ne out of the shit so many times. Those exhaust bolts where they haven't rotted away come undone if you get them cherry red with a induction heater
This is a superbly well maintained example, although buying a second hand one is a huge, and potentially expensive gamble. As my son says, "I like chains I do".
What an absolute faff with these eco boost engines, give me the old Zetec/ Duratec engines any day. Auto data say 3 hours to do the old style engine & you don't have to strip the sump off it, these Ecoboost engines look like you have to tear half of it down to do the belt. And what idiot thought its would be a good idea to submerge a rubber belt in oil ? Are eco boost engines that much more economical.. I have my doubts. Even Ford are beginning to admit /( after ten years) that there are major design issues with this crappy engine .
Duratec's were great engines never had a issue. Got 200K from my Mondeo 1.8 and only changed the car as the car was looking old and tired after 18 years. Chain lasted the whole time... I ran it into the ground as they say. Sack these Wet belt crap.
I rented a Ford Fusion once and used all of $7.00 in one week of driving daily on vacation in Florida, It was a Hybrid Titanium, it drove like a Benz. Tried to buy one but it was expensive, still keeping my eyes out for one that is not $40,000
What an absolute ar5e of a job, could Ford have made that any harder or more fiddly? And this is a scheduled maintenance item! I love my high mileage Fiesta (way more miles than the car featured here), but I'm so glad it has the previous 1.25 and not an EcoBoom. Great video Baz, you earned a new sub 👍
I've enjoyed watching your videos and as and retired motor tech and consultant I just think what a faff these Ford wet belt's are. I was wondering is the Peugeot one worse or better to do than Ford's?? Keep up the good work
Hi Baz, have you ever, or planning to do a video on the Vauxhall 1.6 cdti engine replacing the dual mass flywheel, and timing chain, and if so what sort of mileage would you expect to have to change these components. Many thanks, Lee.
You say that youve been looking after it for some time. Was it the customer that put off the belt replacement until now, or was it because you knew how well maintained it was? Also, is that ivy growing on the inside of the garage? 😅
I know you have the torque multiplier, which is great,but did you ever consider to torque the cranckshaft bolt to 300Nm +90degrees with a torque wrench and breaker bar? I think it would save you some time.
Tbh it's maximum 5 mins to set it up, trying to do 300nm and 90⁰ is harder than it sounds... I'm in no competition the tools make it easier and the older I'm getting the easier the better
A girl I work with has a fiesta eco boost I told her about your videos hers has covered 86k she has rang the local garages here in Skegness know one will do it so off to ford she goes £1500 later but she gets a courtesy car ha ha..
Do you mind telling how much you charge for a wet belt change or a rounded figure? I currently have a ecoboost 1.0 litre and have been given a right range of prices for having the wet belt done.
The reason I don't say is that I like to keep it fair for other garages and I don't want to be the bloke on the internet that can do it at so much. It's the same as any job I carry out I never tell the cost
Hi Baz, on some of your videos ive notice you change the oil pumps,are you just changing the ones that are blocked up, or are you getting away with cleaning the pick up out, ive done afew now but customers are not willing to change them no matter how much advice you give.
Just to add to this, the tool kit with the vvt sets have different cam locking tools. They lock the cam at 180° to the laser tool. Just realised this from this video when Baz had to spin the cams another 180.
My 2014 Ecoboost first engine blew at 42,000 due to a missed recall on a faulty Degas hose! So my 2014 now has a 'updated' Cologne Engine Plant September 2019 Engine currently at 40,000 miles and had few problems including blocked sump and blown Turbo on January back there... I noticed a pin hole leak in my Degas Hose last night so taped up and will replace at weekend. These cars are great to drive but so bloody poor engineering with all that goes wrong... I would NEVER pay for a Wet Belt + Catalyst replacement at a cost of £1000-£1500 on a ten year old car no matter how many parts I've replaced over the years. When the wet belt and Cat goes its best using that £1000-£1500 on a deposit on a newer car.
Great Video, But this video now confirms why I would never buy a Ford Eco boost car. Awful design. These are being recalled in the USA due to people suing Ford over this.
Ist time I have seen this no wonder jobs like this cost so much money , there is alot that could go wrong with this proceedure its a skilled job no doubt ! Stupid idea putting the cam belt internal , why ?
Absolute rubbish! Even if you regularly service and maintain your Ford Ecoboost, the engine will still go boom and damaged. I can tell you this as a former owner of a Ford Focus Ecoboost. Also, Ford cars requires a lot of expensive repairs not just the engine but also coolant leaks, regular wheel bearing replacements, etc. I advise people NOT to buy a Ford and buy a more reliable Japanese cars like, Toyota, Lexus, Honda, etc.
I am amazed how poorly designed that is. Imagine having to do all that work just to change a belt LOL. Good skills and patience to do that. I would have binned it lol. Ford have some shocking bad designs. They utterly hate mechanics.
Hi Baz great video! Ford tech here. On the ecoboost if you hold down the accelerator pedal as you crank it disables the injectors so it wont start as long as you holding down the pedal. just saves you getting in and out of the car to plug coils back in.
Now that's a tip I'll remember thank you 🤙🤙🤙
Works on quite a few modern cars : 'clear flood crank'
@@davyarthursnot here to cause trouble i promise. does not work on VW's :(
@@LawnMowersThingsThatMakeNoise😂 I did say quite
🙏🙏 🤣@@davyarthurs
Holy christ , I have a eco sport and am paranoid about the wet belt which is why I have the oil changed and flushed every year,
Wish I still had my mk 5 cortina which took me in my home garage about 2 hours to replace myself !
Oh how the world has made things so much harder 😂
Damn. I couldn't believe it when I saw the clock. 145,000. This thing was well looked after.
Mileage of 145k and it looks so clean under the cam cover and the sump that's excellent service history, love it 🤩 Awesome job and video as always 😃👍
Love to know the intervals. Must be half the recommended by manufacturer. (six months / 6000 mile give or take)
Planning tp do this on my son's car at the end of August when he's away on holidays. Keep the wet belt videos coming Baz, I'll be a proper expert by then without ever having touched one. Seriously though, I'm fully expecting to have a mare of a time with the exhaust and A/C pump so I'll start giving them a few squirts of the ol' penetrating fluid in the weeks leading up to it.
The internal dipstick tube is such a good idea. It doesn't get in the way when you're working on things outside the engine, and also doesn't have that annoying issue of getting stuck like normal ones (the water / rust trap where they go into the block on most engines).
Use the Correct Oil and Change it Regularly and these can last just as well as anything else 👍 It's always the people who do no maintenance that complain the loudest when they have problems.
100% and the same applies to every car,
Should have seen the amount of "Peugeot cars are unreliable, why have you bought one". Both mine have been taken to 250k miles without any issues.
Agree, look after your car and it will look after you.
@@khalidacosta7133
I have to disagree. I worked for a taxi firm that ran a fleet of Peugeots. When i started there, they had about 50 cars. They were serviced every 10k by our own workshop. Every Monday morning there would be a queue of broken Peugeots.
Now, the same firm has close to 200 Totota's and the workshop is dead apart from regular servicing, tyres and brakes.
Modern cars are fussy on which oil type they use and manufacturers service intervals too long
She put up a fight, but the Wet Belt Wizard worked wonders
Another masterclass Baz, but there is always another new tip in each video transferring your knowledge. Have a good weekend mate 👍
I really enjoyed watching that. I love Alfas and, 15-20 years ago a £350 cam belt and water pump was essential on twin spark engine. On another EcoBoost video the cost was £1200 inc VAT. So you can see why people might avoid it. My point is, even Fords are now as complex and expensive as Alfas 😳
Crazy crank bolt torque, Great Job. 👍
Excellent video, stumbled on this and now a subscriber, people who moan about costs should be made to watch this.
Would have loved to see the state of both wet belts you removed. I have been in contact with Dayco - Ford's wet belts manufacturer, and they claim Ford has told them not to give out information on which models, or production dates as to when the "upgraded" PTFE coated teeth belts were fitted as standard in the factory.
Good work Baz! A lot of work to change these belts!
Baz's content is excellent, He really knows his onion's, You can see why he recently picked up a well deserved CZcams award 👍
Cheers buddy 🤙
@@bazmeredith Love your channel ! Its a great place to learn and admire what a professional can do with cars! My partner's Fiesta is 2013 1.0 80ps 40K miles non turbo engine that will need to come to you in the next month or two for wet belt change. Wonder if you can do a vid to compare if the non turbo 1.0 is any easier to do or still the same as turbo versions.... Great vid by the way , much much to learn !
@@conan670431 ye course get it booked in and I'll do some content with it
Amazing !. A long job which is well done by those who know. I’m not sure how involved it would be, but with such a high mileage engine, I would have been tempted to replace the oil pump whilst it was accessible.
You may as well take the engine out and do the clutch at the same time. 😂😂😂
Done more mileage than the Space Shuttle. Great job- you could do these blindfolded.
Nice work Baz, but if this is progress, Ford can keep it 😮😊
My friend the torch is the fastest way to get the cat off. Heat is amazing .🍺
Pull the skirt down and go in 😂😂
😂😂😂
@@johnp6636 Would there be a Freudian slip under that skirt?
Yeh, they love it ! 🥒💦
Loved my 125 Ecoboost Fiesta, even better when I SuperChipped it to 155BHP. Kept right on top of the oil and filter changes, but sold it at 85K due to needing a bigger car for work.
Looks like you could do with a 5 litre tub of Resolva 24 to get rid of that growth in the roof, before it does anymore damage.
Awesome work Baz as always.
Cheers buddy 🤙
Great video, terrible engine though! Absolute miracle the belt lasted so long with that mileage! Why didn’t you show the condition of the belt??
TBH i seen them do milage like that, with no issue and not been looked after.
But also seen 4 year old cars full ford service history and snap.
So many have snapped or stripped the belts with good service history. And then some that don't
The only thing I can put it down too, is the quality of the belt, belt manufacturing is the problem I feel and its luck of the draw of you happen t get a good one 🙄🙄
Thank you for the wonderful education. What a horrid design of engine, which is not designed for reliability or maintenance. I am so glad that my engine uses a timing chain and has no exhaust turbo.
It's not beyond the wit of man to design a robust timing chain system. My 2005 Honda Accord with the K20 engine has one!
Ford obviously designed that engine with giving their dealers a lot of work later on! Hate to think how much that job was. Thankfully I have a Focus 150TDCI but that will need a normal belt at 10 years, three years away for me but I have only got 45500 on the clock. Very interesting and no swearing!!
Nice one Baz. Wet belt on my C-Max will be due next year, I’d really like you to do it as don’t know anyone local who I trust to do a good job
Get it booked in closer to the time and we'll get it sorted
Great video. Astounding at the vast amount of work to change a belt , and as for belts running in oil a very stupid idea!
Need a induction heater Baz. I got 1 few years ago now and i use it loads. Its got ne out of the shit so many times. Those exhaust bolts where they haven't rotted away come undone if you get them cherry red with a induction heater
Correct... heat breaks the rust.
Most modern cars are brilliant if looked after. The problem is this. Who’s interested any longer in looking after a car??
Did that even start with the old belt with the timing out, what did the belt look like 😂
Wow i wouldn't run any car to that mileage without changing a cam belt, let alone a wet belt
Great Video Baz What Would The Cost Of A Job Like That Be Bring Back The 2.0Ltr Pinto LOL
This is a superbly well maintained example, although buying a second hand one is a huge, and potentially expensive gamble. As my son says, "I like chains I do".
What an absolute faff with these eco boost engines, give me the old Zetec/ Duratec engines any day.
Auto data say 3 hours to do the old style engine & you don't have to strip the sump off it, these Ecoboost engines look like you have to tear half of it down to do the belt.
And what idiot thought its would be a good idea to submerge a rubber belt in oil ?
Are eco boost engines that much more economical.. I have my doubts.
Even Ford are beginning to admit /( after ten years) that there are major design issues with this crappy engine .
Duratec's were great engines never had a issue. Got 200K from my Mondeo 1.8 and only changed the car as the car was looking old and tired after 18 years. Chain lasted the whole time... I ran it into the ground as they say. Sack these Wet belt crap.
Well done Baz for your honesty
good ole pichler tickler to the rescue
My old fiesta endura 1.3 changed the oil once a year, no belts no trouble, bring back push rods!!!
Probably the highest mileage i have seen without a belt change
Wet belt at least
just goes to show, that with good maintenance the wet belt can go on.
I rented a Ford Fusion once and used all of $7.00 in one week of driving daily on vacation in Florida,
It was a Hybrid Titanium, it drove like a Benz. Tried to buy one but it was expensive, still keeping my eyes out for one that is not $40,000
👍 nice one Baz
What an absolute ar5e of a job, could Ford have made that any harder or more fiddly? And this is a scheduled maintenance item! I love my high mileage Fiesta (way more miles than the car featured here), but I'm so glad it has the previous 1.25 and not an EcoBoom. Great video Baz, you earned a new sub 👍
I've enjoyed watching your videos and as and retired motor tech and consultant I just think what a faff these Ford wet belt's are. I was wondering is the Peugeot one worse or better to do than Ford's?? Keep up the good work
You don't see much hype about the Peugeot but they are just as bad
Ace work, Baz! 💪🏼 🔧
what about the oli pump? I think, it also has a wet belt that could use replacing?
Good maintenance is key or that belt would have let go 80000 miles earlier.nice to see ford engineers made changing the belt a fairly easy job 🤯🤬
Meticulous as always. A true pro never get bored with doing a spot on job.
Cheers buddy appreciate it 🤙
I was 100k out on my guess!
Can't believe how many miles the owner got out of this wet belt!
Nice job baz. Have you done 1.2 TSI (EA111) timing chains/oil pump chains? They are very easy to work on compared to this.
Nope I've not done one yet buddy
great job as always lad keep up the good work
Hi Baz, have you ever, or planning to do a video on the Vauxhall 1.6 cdti engine replacing the dual mass flywheel, and timing chain, and if so what sort of mileage would you expect to have to change these components. Many thanks, Lee.
Yes I've done a few, have a look through my page and you'll see it being done, or search my name and 1.6cdti timing chain
My focus 17 plate is on 38000 miles when do u recommend gettin the belt changed thanks
What about the 1.1 ti-vct engine? Are they problematic too? Because it's a naturally aspirated engine, not a turbo.
I find that hard to believe on a "Nappy Belt "?
Change oil air fuel filters as recommended for trouble free motoring.
You say that youve been looking after it for some time. Was it the customer that put off the belt replacement until now, or was it because you knew how well maintained it was?
Also, is that ivy growing on the inside of the garage? 😅
Amazing, normally a wet belt lasts 50.000km
I know you have the torque multiplier, which is great,but did you ever consider to torque the cranckshaft bolt to 300Nm +90degrees with a torque wrench and breaker bar? I think it would save you some time.
Tbh it's maximum 5 mins to set it up, trying to do 300nm and 90⁰ is harder than it sounds... I'm in no competition the tools make it easier and the older I'm getting the easier the better
A torque wrench is not accurate with any sort of extension added without doing a re-calculation. See the tests on CZcams and maker instructions.
@@bazmeredithfair enough!
Did you make that under bonnet light? Looks good
Yes I did buddy, I'll make a shot for you to see what I've done 👍
A girl I work with has a fiesta eco boost I told her about your videos hers has covered 86k she has rang the local garages here in Skegness know one will do it so off to ford she goes £1500 later but she gets a courtesy car ha ha..
What is the cost of a wet belt change approximately???
I can't be alone asking this. How long, on average, does this job take and how much ??
Focus wet belt video please
Look on my page I've done them
Baz you can do my oil pump belt on my 2020 focus when i decide to change it.
Absolutely 💯
Hi Baz i have a 2022 ford puma 1ltr, does my engine have a wet belt or a chain. Great vids.
Can you send me link for vibrant gun and that socket set plz pal
It's in my linktree but you need to call pichler UK
Hey Baz do you wear varifocal glasses ? I have difficulty working on cars with glasses on
No mate, I wear contacts most of the time especially when it warm as glasses do my head in
What make of cat did you fit? Our 2014 focus has the same fault code only just passed it last mot.
Bm catalyst
Excellent video.Do you put the oil seal in dry or lubed?Lots of different opinions .Thanks.
Crank seal??? I put it in dry
How many working hours ?
Do you mind telling how much you charge for a wet belt change or a rounded figure? I currently have a ecoboost 1.0 litre and have been given a right range of prices for having the wet belt done.
I have asked many times, he won't say.
The reason I don't say is that I like to keep it fair for other garages and I don't want to be the bloke on the internet that can do it at so much. It's the same as any job I carry out I never tell the cost
£800 - £1200 is typical.
@@bazmeredith okay thank you very much for replying, that is understandable. Keep up the good work your content is very good 👍🏻
@@domsmith9268 thank you buddy
Hi Baz, on some of your videos ive notice you change the oil pumps,are you just changing the ones that are blocked up, or are you getting away with cleaning the pick up out, ive done afew now but customers are not willing to change them no matter how much advice you give.
If the oil light is staying on longer than it should be it gets a pump if the customer does not want a pump I don't do the job....
How much crud was in the oil feed baz???
Hi Baz , most timing kits come with vvt settings tools, I’ve never seen you use them, so are they necessary.
Nope I've never needed them and I've never had a problem
Just to add to this, the tool kit with the vvt sets have different cam locking tools. They lock the cam at 180° to the laser tool. Just realised this from this video when Baz had to spin the cams another 180.
Fiesta 1.25 engine was fantastic why change
Great one Baz 😊
As you Brits call it “result”.
I thought they specified a 150k mile belt change interval? If so how is this exceptional?
No. Thank you
My 2014 Ecoboost first engine blew at 42,000 due to a missed recall on a faulty Degas hose!
So my 2014 now has a 'updated' Cologne Engine Plant September 2019 Engine currently at 40,000 miles and had few problems including blocked sump and blown Turbo on January back there... I noticed a pin hole leak in my Degas Hose last night so taped up and will replace at weekend.
These cars are great to drive but so bloody poor engineering with all that goes wrong... I would NEVER pay for a Wet Belt + Catalyst replacement at a cost of £1000-£1500 on a ten year old car no matter how many parts I've replaced over the years.
When the wet belt and Cat goes its best using that £1000-£1500 on a deposit on a newer car.
you reuse the bolts while Ford recommends replacing all bolts?
If you replaced everything that the dealers recommend to replace you may as well fit a new engine
@@bazmeredith 😂but I pointed this out because I thought they were tension bolts?
Maintenance means money more maintenance more money wetbelt stupid idea ☹️
Does the oil pump need replaced or cleaned out
Depends if the oil pressure light is staying on longer than it's supposed to, and if they don't get replaced they get cleaned
Great Video, But this video now confirms why I would never buy a Ford Eco boost car. Awful design. These are being recalled in the USA due to people suing Ford over this.
Ist time I have seen this no wonder jobs like this cost so much money , there is alot that could go wrong with this proceedure its a skilled job no doubt ! Stupid idea putting the cam belt internal , why ?
What did that cost the owner?! I'll make sure I never own one those things!!
What a filthy engine!!!!
It's done over 100k miles it's not going to look pretty
@@bazmeredith I have always had my engine bays spotless,but a lot of people are just not mechanical minded I guess.👍👍👍🦘🦘🦘🦘🦘
You didn't show the belt for wear
No I didn't, my bad 🙈🙈🙈
Ford KA+ 2019 is the timing belt the same ?
Think they have changed them to chain but oil pump is still a belt and they are failing
@@bazmeredithAt what millage should they be done I have 85k Kms on my 2019 Ka+
Are you the only person there who does wet belts??
I'm the only one that does all the timing belts. And all the other big jobs
Absolute rubbish!
Even if you regularly service and maintain your Ford Ecoboost, the engine will still go boom and damaged.
I can tell you this as a former owner of a Ford Focus Ecoboost.
Also, Ford cars requires a lot of expensive repairs not just the engine but also coolant leaks, regular wheel bearing replacements, etc.
I advise people NOT to buy a Ford and buy a more reliable Japanese cars like, Toyota, Lexus, Honda, etc.
Agree, Ford have acknowledged there is a issue with these and recalled in USA due to people suing their arses.
What's your garage called baz for the second time of asking need a price
Drop me an email buddy
Are these ford engines or a developed version of someone else's?
Fords own
I am amazed how poorly designed that is. Imagine having to do all that work just to change a belt LOL.
Good skills and patience to do that. I would have binned it lol.
Ford have some shocking bad designs. They utterly hate mechanics.
What were Ford thinking off ,total madness....easier to do brain surgery.
bro needs to chill out with the zooming all the time
If I didn't zoom in you wouldn't see what I was trying to show....
good job i hate wet belt i pas them on know
Ridiculous design.