FORD FIESTA ECOBOOST WETBELT REPLACEMENT!! IF LOOKED AFTER I THINK THEY ARE A GREAT ENGINE!!!!!!
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- čas přidán 14. 05. 2024
- I made a mistake at the beginning of the video I said 6k miles for oil service, I meant 8k miles!!!!!! my bad we all make mistakes....
hope you enjoy the video 🤙 - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Fix cars all day, come home, sit down for tea and watch cars being fixed. I need help. 🤣
So do i this guys gr8 👍
@carlsiddorn3340 some top CZcams guys these days. I like, diagnose Dan, milligan auto diagnostics, daves autocenter, royalty auto service, mighty car mods and matt armstrong for entertainment value. And baz ofc!
Another enjoyable video cheers👍🏼👌
It's not just me then 😂
Excellent job baz what is that torch you are using?
Did this job on my Focus the other week. Was expecting to see the pickup filter clogged and a bad looking belt (10 yrs, 95k miles) but was all surprisingly clean. Ive serviced it once a year and always used the ford spec oil, made me start to think the problems are coming from people chucking any old oil in it in order to save a few quid. Great vid as always
I was also thinking these cars are prone for injector problems. I wonder if the oil gets diluted on some vehicles?
@@RideBikes_Walkplacesdefinitely a possibility but I would still place inadequate servicing as the main problem as in my experience people suck at maintaining their equipment properly.
@@RideBikes_Walkplaces I think you might be right here - ethanol in the oil rotting the polymer of the belt.Caused by too many cold starts and low tension in the rings driven by a drive for efficiency.
I'm sure many people use independents in good faith and don't get the correct spec oil.
I’m a Peugeot /Citroen technician and the stellantis group have a similar engine but are ALOT easier to change the belt on
Yes they are which makes me think that Ford never intended for this to be changed regularly.
I can change clutchs flywheels, outside belts and other things, but i wouldn't take on a wet belt. I wouldn't buy a car running one either. Good to watch tho 👍🏻
The PSA wetbelts are easy to do, compared to the ford's.
I think personally like anything these days. Use the right oil. Proper maintenance and you're halfway there. I like these engines and think they get a bad press. Just forget the stupid belt will last 150k nonsense. My wife's was coming up to 9 years old with 47k on the clock. Wet belt done about a month ago. With no issues before or after. Great channel mate. Always a good watch!
Nice video Baz, thanks.
My girlfriend owns a Ford Fiesta 1.0 ecoboost nonturbo 65 hp, 2017, 90.000 km's. It had new belts mounted the end of March and they turned out to be like new. The reason: I change the oil each year and use the spec C948, which is recommended by Ford. Now she can drive this car another 10 years.
A lot of these cars are neglected and then the belts fall apart, and the fallen off pieces block the oilintake so there is too little oilpressure. Do regular and proper maintenance and run your vehicle for a long time, that is the cheapest and best way!
They get a lot of bad publicity these engines, like you say majority is caused by them not being serviced enough or with the incorrect oil.
I got this done as a preventive measure on my 2013 125bhp Fiesta with 80k on clock. Mechanic reported back it was in decent shape. Nothing clogged up in the pickup etc.
Has been serviced every year by Ford for first 7 years and decent independents since then. So make of that what you will.
I've said it to everyone for a long time.
Synthetic oil won't rot rubber depending on type. The Castrol oil recommended by Ford or other equivalent that meets or exceeds their specs should be fine too, but to be safe use the Castrol.
The problems start when hydrocarbons start getting introduced into the oil, so extended service intervals, missed oil changes etc etc....that's when the damage starts.
Having a "full" dealer service history isn't enough like your customer here don't cheap out, change it every 5/6k like we all used to in the old mineral oil days I reckon you'll get the full life out of the belt.
One of my mates has his own shop, he has no end of wet belts to change, low mileage too!
I agree with proper timely servicing of these high tech engines...I have a 2017 Chevy Malibu 1.5 L with 84,000 miles which runs just fine...but ignoring the computer or not reading the manual & missing just 1 service will result in major component failure...!
If ye think that crank pulley bolts tight, give Golf 5 rear wheel bearing bolts a whirl. :-) Sons built like 2 muscly people squashed together into one - I let him unwind them. He was hands on knees & puffing after undoing just one. They finally get easy to turn when the last threads out. Until then, they're murder tight.
I torqued the newies back in. Spec is 180 nm, then 180 degrees. I managed 180 nm & 90 degrees using the biggest breaker bar for the final "180 degrees". Not a hope could I get another 90 degrees without the car or world
turning & not the bolts. I muttered a quick "Click!" & decided it was guttentite enough..
Great informative video as always Baz - Gratitudes Sir.
I really appreciate your attention to detail, cleanliness and professionalism.
Absolutely superb job hats off to you Sir 😃😃👍👍
Brilliant video I just bought a ford fiesta ST 52,000 miles on it I ask them to change the timing belt on it after watch your video I feel a bit guilty now 😆
Baz just love you watching you doing timing belts make it look so easytaking your word on VX grandland wet belt every 5,800 miles oil change
I agree with you about the servicing, but it's quite a pain for people to be dropping it off to the garage every couple of months for service,
The only part that really matters is frequent replacement with fresh, good quality oil & filter. Half the mfr's recommended interval is about right. Formal, full service can be at specced intervals.
That job looked like a bloody nightmare, how many hours did that take? because it seemed like it took most of your day
Lovely work done. I'm totally agree as you said these engines are great little units. Using the right genuine oil and specs and services every 6000 miles, i'm sure they would last a long time. Great video 😊👍
Mechanic here defo a good engine when maintained they hold good power too for 3 banger
Use only high quality oil. With the correct Ford oil specification.
As Baz says, change the oil at 10k to 12k….
Love it Baz. That Puretech one you changed looked a darn sight easier than this. Still prefer a chain inside the engine.
I preferred chains until I bought an N47 BMW. Having said that, I've changed the oil every 8k with synthetic LL04, and it's still running sweet & quiet after 10yrs/130k miles. Neglected servicing and bore wash diluting the oil was a big factor in the notorious chain failures.
You make these look easy fella. Great job
Buzz Meredith to infinity and beyond other mechanics should fear this guy madd attention to detail
Excellent video Baz, thank you 👍
Done so many of em Baz . Sometimes that 13mm feed screw siezes solid. And those 13mm nuts sometimes snap no matter how much heat. Then it's new manifold! Least ya got it off. I just slacken those 13mm to allow a bit of movement to get heat shield off. Yeah those feed pipes are a pain. The newer engines you can get em out easy as they must have moved them slightly. The turbos always go anywhere from 80k miles above. I think it's the long service intervals personally. At least it didn't chuck the oil into intercooler. When ya clean em out a week later it comes back with Adblue faults. P2002 Or nox catalyst below threshold due to oik damaging nox catalyst. They keep me in a job these 2litre transits haha
oil change every 8000 miles. 190.000 miles on my HDI 1.4 and oil is changes every 12.000 miles. I do use synthetic oil. The manufacturer recommends to change the oil every 18.000 miles. Is 8.000 miles recommended by Ford? To change the oil that often is really expensive in the long run compared to the engine in my car.
Great video Baz, love the longer videos 💪👍
Totally agree with you I have done loads of these belts and I would say 90% are ok but I have had a few that are bad regular serving is a yes. Send it
Great 👍 I will be coming to you Baz when my 2019 ecosport ST Line needs it’s belts replacing . Currently on 21,000 probably do at 50,000 , I change oil 5w20 Castrol Magnatec and genuine Ford oil filter every 5,000 miles but a bit concerned that it’s an auto and have heard that there is also an extra problem with a tensioner FAILING … are you aware of this ?? And is there anything you might suggest ?
Thanks for this detailed video 👍
When tightening the crank bolt how did you stop the pulley from twisting on the first torque ? I end up counter Turning them I'm sure there's an easier way
I swear everything can be a nice little receptacle. Even if it's an old ice cream tub 😂
Man such a great vids on the wet belts !! Love it! What would be the best way to contact you about my partners Fiesta mk7 1.0 non turbo wet belt and pump . Always was serviced every 6k miles with Ford oil and parts and only has covered 42k miles but has reached 10 yrs now.... Ford want a insane amount of money for the job ...
outstanding baz
Hi Baz i’ve got a Vauxhall mokka and I need to change the AC condenser do I need to remove the front bumper and grill to get access? Thanks
Top notch 👌
Mine is a 13 plate fiesta eco. Boost with 29000 onit always serviced with proper oil would you think the belt and pickup will b ok a while yet
Great job explained with all details
I'M REALLY IMPRESSED WITH YOUR IN-DEPTH KNOWLEDGE AROUND THIS JOB. I WILL NEED MINE DONE IN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO. COULD YOU TELL ME WHERE YOUR GARAGE IS AND APPROX HOW MUCH THE WHOLE JOB COSTS PLEASE AS I DONT THINK I WOULD TRUST ANYONE ELSE TO BE SO METHODICAL ABOUT HOW THIS JOB IS DONE. MANY THANKS. P.S. I LIVE IN THE LONDON AREA.
Think we've emailed
@@bazmeredith Thats right, this morning baz. Thanks
Totally agree with you Baz, these are good engines when looked after, I like you have done many of these on low and high mileage cars, all the ones with patchy history the belts are breaking up badly and the ones that have been looked after are in very good condition, all the haters need to blame themselves for a lot of the issues
on the torque multiplier are you turning the bolt 90 each time or the bar 90 on the input side
the recommended torque multiplier has a "5 to 1" gear reduction so, when you turn input nut of torque multiplier 90 degrees, it only turns crank pulley bolt 18 degrees. Therefore, due to 5 to 1 gear reduction, it needs five 90 degree turns of torque multiplier input nut to achieve the required 90 degree tightening at the crank pulley bolt.
@RetiredVehicleTech-nk5ch thanks. that's what I did the last time was 90 on the input of the 5/1 multiplier think it was 5 times. Just making sure it was not 5x 90 of the bolt haha
top job baz ...just asking what kind of £ do you guys charge for changing the belt on these?
A friend had his done at ford dealer yesterday it was 1500, independent would be cheaper I would imagine
£1300 from a local garage specialist to £2000 from ford. Avoid ford dealers if possible!
What’s the labour hours on this?
What's the rough cost of this job?
Just out of interest, how much do you guys charge to to this job?n
Regards to price I never put the price as I want to keep it fair for others garages across the UK. But anyway between 800-1200
@@bazmeredith yeah I think we charge about a grand for it at our place!
Own one of these ecoboom for just over 2 years had FSH. Asked the supplying dealer if they would do the belt after hearing all the stories of the wet belts. They said there was no need as Ford say 10 years or 150,000 miles. Our daughter who had passed her test 6 months before was driving when the belt destroyed itself. She had the sense to quickly realize that she had lost power steering and brakes but was able to stop safely. The engine was rebuilt it bent 3 valve but we were able to save the engine. Ford customer services were useless. Will never buy a Ford again. Have done loads of timimg belts on vehicles over the years but would not do an ecoboost myself needs an expert. Wish we had never bought the car. Service it now at 6,000 miles oil change seem like a backward step to the cars we had 40 years which also had an oil change at 6,000 miles oil was not as good back them all 20/50. Excellent videos really enjoy them.
What’s price off job! Supply and fit roughly! Cheers
Regards to price I never put the price as I want to keep it fair for others garages across the UK. But anyway between 800-1200
£1300 from a local garage specialist to £2000 from ford. Avoid ford dealers if possible!
Still NOT a fan of this wet belt setup! Or 3 cylinders come to think of it.
Longer videos are ok we want more.👍
Please let me know how much you charge for thus job.
Regards to price I never put the price as I want to keep it fair for others garages across the UK. But anyway between 800-1200
Ford says the belt will last 150k miles on annual services. Its pretty clear that they dont. These wet belts are exepnsive to replace and have no benefit over a dry belt. An engine that requires a very specific oil is a bad secondhand buy.
looks like a pain just to get a car on your lift ?
No engine that you need to spend £1000 on to replace a belt,deserves to be called anything other than crap.
Hey mate, i know its probably been asked in other videos but what is the brand and part number of the torque multiplier you have?
Cheers
Very brave getting involved in that poorly engineered 💩👍
Must be around a £500 job this Baz?
More that that
Just had mine done Ford transit courier 1 litre eco.1250 pound
@@craiggathard1825 WOW! 😳
Ford charge over 800 for a belt and pump on a 1.5 Tdci near me 🤣
About £1500.00 plus at the main dealership. About 7 to 8 hours labour.
Buying 1of these secondhand is a big no no you never know what services it's had or what oil its had or any wet belts PSA group cars give them a miss as well we have a suzuki swift 152,000 miles honda civic 167,000 miles we don't have this hassle
Wetbelts have been failing on cara with full dealer service history