New Dahmer Recordings | Serial Killers and their Family Relations

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  • čas přidán 15. 09. 2023
  • Newly released recordings are offering insight into #JeffreyDahmer‘s thoughts, more than 30 years after he was convicted of murdering 15 boys and men. A series of phone calls with his father reveal what drove Dahmer to kill. Our #VinniePolitan breaks down the relationship between serial killers and their families.
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Komentáře • 381

  • @COURTTV
    @COURTTV  Před 8 měsíci +9

    MORE HERE: www.courttv.com/news/new-recordings-offer-insight-into-jeffrey-dahmers-mind/?

    • @tommas2674
      @tommas2674 Před 8 měsíci

      send them directly there , God doesn't want YOU to not be discerning.

  • @ZIG.E
    @ZIG.E Před 8 měsíci +149

    Dahmer at least was willing to talk about it and give insight into his thinking !

    • @moomyung9231
      @moomyung9231 Před 8 měsíci +26

      Killers who admit what they did I always hate less than the ones who pretend they're innocent and that type usually talks badly of the victims as well. It's the lying and disrespect that makes everything worse to me.

    • @gingerleamcwow435
      @gingerleamcwow435 Před 8 měsíci +15

      Yeah, he pretty much pleaded with law enforcement to get it arranged for medical professionals to be able to study his brain. He always said that he didn't understand why he became a serial killer or why he had such disgusting & twisted fetishes (I guess that's the right word?) And he wanted something good/helpful to hopefully come from the evil that he knew was inside him.

    • @wendirose509
      @wendirose509 Před 8 měsíci +4

      So true! He didn't have to do that.

    • @Scottallen8909
      @Scottallen8909 Před 8 měsíci +13

      We just can never forget that JD did some of the most horrific and disturbing things to every single victim. I could care less about his brain or any other part of him , the moment that he became room temperature this world became a better place.

    • @nadinekeating3255
      @nadinekeating3255 Před 8 měsíci +4

      JD also admitted to other victims he wasn't even charged with killing.

  • @jessicagoodall1458
    @jessicagoodall1458 Před 8 měsíci +49

    Props to Dahmer for taking full accountability once he was caught instead of the horror court show Bundy put everyone through

    • @thewanderer1139
      @thewanderer1139 Před 8 měsíci +7

      He's the only serial killer who really didnt know why he did what he did....

    • @pagliacci2942
      @pagliacci2942 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@thewanderer1139 But he dd. He even says. He was socially awkward and had a fear of abandonment.

    • @thewanderer1139
      @thewanderer1139 Před 8 měsíci

      @@pagliacci2942 listen to his full interview

    • @noriwilliams4637
      @noriwilliams4637 Před 8 měsíci

      Now that a justifiable reason isnt it@@pagliacci2942

    • @Father_Neurosis
      @Father_Neurosis Před 3 měsíci

      You also have to remember Ted Bundy wasn't seen as guilty epically in the beginning. Jeffery was caught red handed with skulls and photos of his victims in his apartment it would have been pointless to try to lie himself out of that.

  • @HeartbrokenBastard
    @HeartbrokenBastard Před 8 měsíci +25

    When you see these men you realize that crime can take any face and beauty is no repellent for evil.

  • @ChristinasCure
    @ChristinasCure Před 8 měsíci +8

    My grandmas brother was married to the mother of Richard Ramirez. He wasn’t his bio father, but stepfather. Although they were equally horrible and cruel fathers. My grandma really distanced herself from her brother because he was a major drug addict and so was his wife (richards mom). They would steal anything they could to sell so they could get drug money. One of the last straws was at her and my grandpas wedding. But she apparently had photos of Richard that day at her wedding. She hadn’t seen him since he was a teenager and hadn’t seen her brother or his wife either. They all lived in the Bay Area and around the same area but were still estranged and didn’t ever visit each other. When the news broke about Richard being caught and arrested my grandma had a mental breakdown. She locked herself in the garage and tore into her wedding album to burn the photos of Richard and any pictures where he, his mom, and her brother were in the back. She never would’ve destroyed that album which was her world but the news about Richard made her want to erase him from every area of her life. She made her kids keep it a secret until she died. I had no idea. Something we would do together was watch movies with Shemar Moore, she loved him so much. I had watched Criminal Minds since I was little because of my parents. I would always ask my grandma why she didn’t want to watch it considering Shemar was on it. Something I never realized is that it’s because richards face is the first they show on the intro where they have the backdrops of serial killers.

  • @ilmagnifico82
    @ilmagnifico82 Před 8 měsíci +18

    Dennis Rader tried to calm his wife down about the BTK killer is back. He said that, she donesn't have to worry, she is in safe place.

  • @deadmanswife3625
    @deadmanswife3625 Před 8 měsíci +12

    First the father drove the mother insane then he nurtured the boy into a source of perpetual income

  • @YIKESMF
    @YIKESMF Před 8 měsíci +28

    This was horrifying to see unfold on tv in the early 90s when he was found out. Watching the barrels being removed from his apartment building. Hearing the testimony of the surviving victim. The families of the victims statements at the sentencing. It dumbfounded me, to think of a human being not only serial killing gay men and boys of color, but eating them.

    • @LLace
      @LLace Před 8 měsíci

      there weren’t just boys of color though as u call them 😑😒 his first victim was yte

    • @lisasmith4296
      @lisasmith4296 Před 8 měsíci +2

      I was 10 yrs old and live in Australia and I still remember it being on the news

    • @nancymesek
      @nancymesek Před 8 měsíci

      No kidding. He didn’t live far from my family and went to school with friends of mine.

    • @X3554
      @X3554 Před 8 měsíci +2

      I was 8 when he got caught its always fascinated me his mind not because its cool or anything but the the mental illness side of it i feel like he was truly sick and needed help

  • @rymlm9038
    @rymlm9038 Před 8 měsíci +7

    He asked for no mercy in his statement because he knew it wasn't capital penalty state

  • @krisparker9078
    @krisparker9078 Před 8 měsíci +42

    Im a police office and years ago when i was in the police academy one of the lead investigators in dahmers case came in to talk to us. This case was so unbelievable. The things that people dont know is best to protect the victims and their families. The things that we were told were shocking and unbelievable for a human to do to another human being

    • @watsonspuzzle
      @watsonspuzzle Před 8 měsíci

      There was a picture of one of Dalmer's victims, headless, and posed in a tub that was circulating the internet. After that, I didn't want to know any more of the details. Incidentally, a man named Tony Podesta had a statue of this crime scene body displayed in his house. Some people are really vile.

    • @merricat3025
      @merricat3025 Před 8 měsíci +4

      I don't understand your comment about what people don't know

    • @copperjackson
      @copperjackson Před 8 měsíci +14

      @@merricat3025they’ve probably kept a lot from the public bc it’s just too graphic

    • @babytash3
      @babytash3 Před 8 měsíci

      There is one thing about this serial killers there manipulate cone .They take the church to get away with there evilness not even rehabilitation could change them . Im sorry just how i feel .There brain has chemical issues his sorry not change this families still suffer i lost a daughter . U put him out they do it again best thing is only one thing 😥

    • @John-mx4qm
      @John-mx4qm Před 8 měsíci +12

      What is worse than rape murder mutilation and cannibalism?

  • @cosmoplakat9549
    @cosmoplakat9549 Před 8 měsíci +19

    Though his father was not a serial killer, when I heard of some of Collier Landry's experiences after his father murdered his mother, that is what upsets me most. He was just a child at the time, yet he was abandoned by his family (grew up in foster care), bullied in school, and other atrocities.

    • @blobcity3591
      @blobcity3591 Před 8 měsíci +2

      being bullied in school is an atrocity?

    • @shgb44
      @shgb44 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@blobcity3591 - It does not matter what is done to a person but how that person PERCEIVES it. There are killers I have interviewed who were upset for decades over the tiniest slight.

    • @cosmoplakat9549
      @cosmoplakat9549 Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@blobcity3591 Yes.

    • @JDdr86
      @JDdr86 Před 6 měsíci

      @@blobcity3591 My bullies groped me, stuck sharp objects in my butt, beat me up while the by standing kids where cheering at them for "teaching the f@ggot a lesson", threatened to torture and kill me and my family, and described horrible scenes of me and my parents faving p3d0philic, ¡ncestuous, and coprophilic/coprophagic sex to me, all while laughing at my horror. If I beged them to stop they would just get worse, I also tried to report them to the school authorities, which only made everything even more vicious and actually I got punished for "provoking" them.
      Now come again?, You wonder if bullying is an atrocity?, I mean, they simulated gang-r@pe on me as a fun game, which basically was just regular gang-rape, but without penetration or taking anyones clothes off, though some of them did flash their genitals at me while making homophobic remarks of me "wanting it". Mind you, this is not an extreme case, this is just standard practice in most public schools here in Mexico, and I seriously doubt it is any better in the US. I think you must have either been one of the bullies yourself (maybe not the main one, just one of the groupies), or just one of the by standers who enabled them because you thought it was a fun game. I hate the word "bullying", particularly in Spanish because people don't know wtf does it mean, and in both countries, people seem to think it means playing pranks on the "school weirdo", for being a weirdo, because the victims deserve it for being "effeminate" (did I just accuse you of living in a bubble of privilege, and being complicitly bigoted against LGBTQ+ and neuro-divergent kids?, Yes!, I totally did!, because you probably are if you think bullying is no biggie!). Torture, would be the accurate descriptive term for this horrendous $h¡†, alongside Child-On-Child $EXUΔL Abuse/Harassment/Assault, because that is what it is, a bunch of casually enabled acts of mental, verbal, emotional, physical and $exu@l violence on vulnerable young people, by a bunch of morons (like you), completely oblivious to the suffering they are inflicting on people who simply are different from you. Sorry,, but if you participated in any of this truly heinous $h¡†, even if you where one of the casual bystanders, I think you are pettier, $h¡ttier, and , more vile and insidious than any serial killer or mass shooter, also because you are still allowed to fool around, and raise children, and participate in parent associations, and vote people into office.

  • @marilynh.
    @marilynh. Před 8 měsíci +5

    I wonder why they are putting these three together? Jeffrey is deceased. Jeffrey wasn't anything like these two family working men/ serial killers. Besides, he was- killed inside prison. However most important he genuinely seemed remorseful.

  • @macrograms
    @macrograms Před 8 měsíci +9

    The exponential growth of the J.Dahmer fanclub is a real indicator of the state of a culture or society. It's one thing to study crime and its prevention. It's another to get people worked up in to a frenzy with a big stiffy. Really can't imagine a crappier thing to do. And yet..

    • @deadmanswife3625
      @deadmanswife3625 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Where do I sign up

    • @YIKESMF
      @YIKESMF Před 8 měsíci

      The only one talking about stiffies is YOU. What is wrong with you?

    • @shgb44
      @shgb44 Před 8 měsíci

      Actually, what I write about is that he is more like an avatar of what is wrong with the culture itself, not vice versa.

  • @connys.a2412
    @connys.a2412 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Dahmer made his own body into a "graveyard " because he rather retain them " forever " than to experience loneliness rejection and insecurity again ( in his weird perception ). Somehow those killers are like all of us in regards to needs , fears, anger etc. BUT they have a highly unacceptable way of expressing it .

  • @CapeRN
    @CapeRN Před 8 měsíci +14

    The victims should be entitled to at least half the marital assets. Like Danny Masterson, they are hiding money from victims

    • @le_th_
      @le_th_ Před 8 měsíci +2

      No, the victims were not victimized by the wife. She did nothing to harm them. The wife is most often, although not always, the FIRST victim of the serial killer. He kills her with his toxicity, which usually shows up in females as breast cancer. The more narcissistic the woman's partner is, the most likely she is to develop breast cancer and to die from it if she stays with him.
      A serial killer robs the victims of the rest of their lives. However, he robs his wife and children of THEIR ENTIRE LIVES. Every moment, every once-treasured memory, every holiday, all the family photos, the home they share becomes like living in a graveyard, everything they once thought was true in discovered to be a lie. That is why they are the first victims.
      The murdered victims had a life, a loving family (sometimes, not always), and usually had real relationships before they were killed. It is the rest of their life that they are robbed.
      Rapists can do similar things unless the rapist knew their victim for decades before they prey on them. If the latter occurs, that victim is also robbed of all their once-treasured memories with the person they now know as a predator. They have to deal with all the cognitive dissonance and extreme trauma of knowing all that time the predator was just grooming them for predation, all the while pretending to be someone else. That is a major mindfck, and it usually results in that person losing several years of their own life with full-blown PTSD.

    • @X3554
      @X3554 Před 8 měsíci

      Bro the victims families got their fair share just because everytime w show, novie or documentary is made on Jeff doesnt mean they have to claim money every time yes respected and victims remembered but you dont have to go and fight and claim for money everytime thats just greed which i feel like by now this many years later the victims families are just doing it for money now its been 30+ yrs now

  • @gabe-po9yi
    @gabe-po9yi Před 8 měsíci +7

    Keith Jesperson’s (aka Happy Face Killer) daughter, Melissa Moore, who had a TV program for a while, said he was a great dad, overall, but also exposed a dark side to himself at times. She said he told her once when they were on a family getaway that the place where they were would be a good place to hide a dead body - which was later discovered as a dump site of his. He shared with her once that he knew how to kill a person and get away with it. On another trip they were walking across a bridge and he picked her up by the ankles and dangled her over the side and seemed to enjoy her terror.

  • @blingfire1850
    @blingfire1850 Před 8 měsíci +17

    Dahmer's words were just words. Anyone who did what he did isn't capable of feeling that bad. He may understand it on an intellectual level, but bet not only would he not give his own life in lieu of them, he'd do it again.

    • @gamingqueen3913
      @gamingqueen3913 Před 8 měsíci +4

      I agree. He couldn't have felt bad. He felt powerful. Even still after being caught. He felt power in knowing he took their lives and it couldn't be reversed. The rest of the act was him not being able to get his kicks and giggles from murdering so he took what he could get ... a reason to explain why he did it. Camera time. Entertainment. Fixation. Human interaction.

    • @IdkIdk-gt2ej
      @IdkIdk-gt2ej Před 8 měsíci +2

      Yeah he couldn't feel remorse but he pretended that he did..and some people may consider that as "evil" but honestly I think it's just sad..how can a person become so numb that they can't feel any emotions anymore? It's truly sad that he came to that point.. doesn't excuse what he did but I'm glad he confessed and atleast tried to portray an "fake" remorseful image in order to make the victims feel a bit better..

  • @elizabethshultz2462
    @elizabethshultz2462 Před 8 měsíci +6

    I cant stand his parent's.

  • @HannahMattox
    @HannahMattox Před 8 měsíci +6

    My 14 year old was just admitted into a hospital for behavioral healthcare. I hope and pray that my child does not everyone having this kind of person. I can tell you that I will be her first victim if anyone is. I've pressed so hard for her to be just a good person, and i think that maybe I'll be the one that is in her sight. As long as I'm the only one, I think that maybe I'll at least maybe she'll be stopped before she gets to this level.

    • @elainehiggins713
      @elainehiggins713 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Female serial killers exist, but they are rare. They usually don’t kill alone, but “work” with the help of others, usually a man.

    • @ferguson8143
      @ferguson8143 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@elainehiggins713not necessarily they usually are in the medical field and women not all of them use poisoning

  • @wendirose509
    @wendirose509 Před 8 měsíci +7

    I believe Jeffery truly repented. He definitely deserved the death penalty, but I'm glad he repented.

    • @gamingqueen3913
      @gamingqueen3913 Před 8 měsíci +1

      He was not sorry. He bragged about what he did in prison after this.

    • @shgb44
      @shgb44 Před 8 měsíci

      That was a sham.

    • @IdkIdk-gt2ej
      @IdkIdk-gt2ej Před 8 měsíci +2

      After hearing this 12:50, I'm afraid that he faked his conversion just to satisfy his father..

    • @brieonymous
      @brieonymous Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@gamingqueen3913 Humans are very complicated. I imagine he felt sorry in some moments and not sorry in other moments.

  • @sugarsundae3400
    @sugarsundae3400 Před 8 měsíci +31

    Jeffery's father seems like a really nice man who tried to do his best by his children, how sad for him and the rest of the family as well as the victims and their families the whole thing is very sad.

    • @dishbits
      @dishbits Před 8 měsíci +13

      Do you really think so? I mean he left Jeffery alone for months, practically showed his son about handling a corpse, and I felt like kind of ignored the signs that his kid needed help. But I also wouldn’t want to blame his dad for all of the horrific crimes he committed.

    • @elizabethshultz2462
      @elizabethshultz2462 Před 8 měsíci +2

      💯

    • @BillyJack85
      @BillyJack85 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Dahmer's ex boyfriend said he told him his dad molested him when he was little

    • @toribern816
      @toribern816 Před 8 měsíci

      Yes, I bought and read his book in the 90’s…. One of the few, I was young 😂

    • @Sassyquatch1020
      @Sassyquatch1020 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@dishbitsI don’t know all the small details about him, just the overall story. How did his dad show him to handle a corpse!?

  • @margaretcastellano3167
    @margaretcastellano3167 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Great show, Vinnie!

  • @JMM599
    @JMM599 Před 8 měsíci +7

    It’s always “good people do bad things” but “bad people never do good things”. I believe serial killers can do good things at points in their lives, like raise children and care for their family, so I don’t think it’s fair to say that just because they did some horrific things that they’re 100% evil and everything in their life was done out of selfishness and manipulation. Are they even truly bad people at heart or are they good people gone very bad…I guess that goes back to nature vs nurture.

    • @X3554
      @X3554 Před 8 měsíci +2

      I agree i also believe jeff was sick he needed help!

  • @SusanRamsey76
    @SusanRamsey76 Před 8 měsíci +9

    I tried to binge watch the court videos on this guy on your website and the navigation was difficult.
    This guy here…scariest one to date IMO. Maybe because I live in MN 🤷‍♀️

  • @donnapavina8803
    @donnapavina8803 Před 8 měsíci +5

    “How does that happen?”
    I’ve asked myself that a thousand times. Thanks for diving into such muddy water.
    Back in the days of “villages”, they would come together and decide someone of such trouble needed to be killed, but in a caring way. And before more tragedy can happen.
    Did it speak on the village? Who is to say but there’s ALOT to say about STOPPING them as quickly as possible.
    Indeed-HOW?!

    • @ferguson8143
      @ferguson8143 Před 7 měsíci

      As they would of said some demonic possession

  • @audreydaleski1067
    @audreydaleski1067 Před 8 měsíci +4

    I feel so sorry for his wife.

  • @charliebarrow7086
    @charliebarrow7086 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Oh Godness, here we go, Kerri Rawson had to come on of course. How many more times does she want milk the fact that her father is BTK? Nothing better to do? She makes out that she is the biggest victim of BTK while the relatives of the real victims that were killed by Dennis Raider are silent. And why is she on television and the internet all the time anyway? She had noooo idea so what could she possible contribute that is in any way helpful in preventing other SK's from getting away with their evil actions for decades?

  • @SarahSodaPop
    @SarahSodaPop Před 8 měsíci +5

    That's most definitely a messed up concept. I can't imagine knowing my son turning out to be a serial killer.

  • @Bastet32
    @Bastet32 Před 8 měsíci +13

    Nobodys talking about the drugs their moters usually would be taking throughout pregnancy. Back then many of those drugs were legal and there were no counter indications about using them, doctors would prescribe loads of pills, some of which as banned today. It has a lot to do with fetus development and brain chemistry. Then add abandonment, toxic environment and trauma on top.

    • @pinkorganichorse
      @pinkorganichorse Před 8 měsíci +1

      That is why I never take drugs today. A medical doctor is a dangerous person to see for anything related to health.

  • @swampfizz
    @swampfizz Před 8 měsíci +6

    his dad is profiting on these poor victims and Their Families??

    • @sugarsundae3400
      @sugarsundae3400 Před 8 měsíci +5

      Jeffrey's dad has given all the money he's made to the victims families, where as on the other hand the BTK killers daughter has made lots of money from her father's crimes and never given any of it to the victims families.

    • @swampfizz
      @swampfizz Před 8 měsíci

      well I hope so...he's an odd fella too@@sugarsundae3400

    • @thescourge6827
      @thescourge6827 Před 8 měsíci

      He was sued by the victims' families and had to share the profits of his book. He kept all money from interviews and documentaries.

  • @annettedantzler1200
    @annettedantzler1200 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I think they divorce immediately, because they always wanted to get away/escape and this gives them a legitimate reason.

  • @janwilliams1781
    @janwilliams1781 Před 8 měsíci +16

    Dahmer just seems like he was born this way. He struck me as so tired. His parents exacerbated his depression. His father has been making bank off him ever since.

    • @lovepet4565
      @lovepet4565 Před 8 měsíci +5

      I agree
      The whole dead animal thing
      Then leaving a troubled teen boy alone?
      Thats when he first killed
      He needed to be in an institution

    • @NeveahGrace420
      @NeveahGrace420 Před 8 měsíci +4

      I agree his dad was cold and very distant emotionally. Not saying he is an uncaring father he definitely loved Jeff but was sometimes extremely negligent

    • @Foxfire8787
      @Foxfire8787 Před 6 měsíci

      Going by all the research I did on this case it seems like Lionel was more involved than your average father. Especially considering the time period

  • @Alana-oy2jz
    @Alana-oy2jz Před 8 měsíci +1

    Love your channel🙏have blessed evening too you and your family🙏

  • @vakkerdame8557
    @vakkerdame8557 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I think some are born with it in their DNA, and some people are born normal but from consistent abuse and neglect become cold and hardened. Killing becomes easy for them because they were torn apart as a child or teen to the point of no return. And some are a combo, of course.

  • @giama7618
    @giama7618 Před 8 měsíci +13

    Jeffrey is the ultimate boogeyman

    • @BoldGiorno
      @BoldGiorno Před 8 měsíci +1

      I have had nightmares of Jeffrey! Damn! I’m a horror fan and I know a little about serial killers bit Dahmer’s case just gives me the absolute chills! 😭

    • @sugarsundae3400
      @sugarsundae3400 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Jeffery seems so normal he had a good upbringing which makes it all the more harder to understand why he did what he did.

    • @Kvn1982
      @Kvn1982 Před 8 měsíci

      @@sugarsundae3400in some cases it makes no difference whether an individual has had the best upbringing and family or not. For us trying to wrap our heads around these horrible horrible things like this that happen we always try and find a reason because it’s even more frightening that so called normal individuals could just do it because they can and want to

    • @shgb44
      @shgb44 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Albert Fish has that title.

    • @autumncaudill9592
      @autumncaudill9592 Před 8 měsíci

      He was probably one of the most insightful though.

  • @Bastet32
    @Bastet32 Před 8 měsíci +8

    Finally someone who's not deflecting the blame away from parents.

    • @Foxfire8787
      @Foxfire8787 Před 6 měsíci

      What? People always blames the parents, especially the moms. This is nothing new.

  • @audreydaleski1067
    @audreydaleski1067 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Vinnie is an absolute 😍 favorite.

  • @tarachapman916
    @tarachapman916 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Family 1st always. Serial killers are not about their family they are mentally not okay to have a family and be killing someone on the side. That's deranged

    • @keivebeats
      @keivebeats Před 8 měsíci +5

      wtf are you talking about

    • @YIKESMF
      @YIKESMF Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@keivebeatsshe got high and is scrolling CZcams.

    • @dontask4990
      @dontask4990 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@YIKESMFHell no 😂😂😂

  • @splat6566
    @splat6566 Před 8 měsíci +1

    We will never understand what they were thinking.

  • @DaddyOfTheSugarVariety
    @DaddyOfTheSugarVariety Před 8 měsíci +17

    I don't think introducing religion/god/satan makes things any easier. The serial killer is already dealing with fantasy thinking. Introducing anything supernatural instead of logical, critical thinking is just gonna mess them up even more.

    • @Dustandfuzz
      @Dustandfuzz Před 8 měsíci +2

      It’s all they have left. Salvation for the rest of his life and his afterlife. Logical, critical thinking…..won’t help him now.

    • @DaddyOfTheSugarVariety
      @DaddyOfTheSugarVariety Před 8 měsíci

      @@Dustandfuzz If you're using critical thinking & logic you'd ask, is there an afterlife? Using critical thinking doesn't require you to pray. I mean what if you pray to the wrong god? It's just silly.

    • @deadmanswife3625
      @deadmanswife3625 Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@DaddyOfTheSugarVariety the wrong God? oh Lord here we go.

    • @DaddyOfTheSugarVariety
      @DaddyOfTheSugarVariety Před 8 měsíci +1

      @deadmanswife3625 What do you mean, people believe in hundreds of gods. Which one do you believe in?

  • @ericav3284
    @ericav3284 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I love Dr Judy! I've watched her for years on medcircle 🥰👍

  • @-Princesse-
    @-Princesse- Před měsícem

    If you haven't watched Jeffrey's final (full) interview, you should. He gives stunning insights into why he came to think of people as just things to use and keep. And if you haven't seen the several interviews with the pastor in jail he wished to speak with, it is a must watch. His name is Roy Ratcliff.

  • @Diane-xh7vl
    @Diane-xh7vl Před 8 měsíci +9

    His dad took all his recordings to then turn around and write a book let alone take part in this documentary 🤔 just astonishing 🤨 sick

    • @samanthalake5011
      @samanthalake5011 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Monetizing ppls pain is not wrong. 😂 get money 🤑🤑

    • @hulkimania
      @hulkimania Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@samanthalake5011💯

    • @IdkIdk-gt2ej
      @IdkIdk-gt2ej Před 8 měsíci +4

      Poor man is just trying to help others get an insight of his son's thinking..he turned 87 this year and has recently lost his wife..what are you even expecting him to do with the money that he'll gain from this?? He's living in a house all alone struggling with his health- He took part in this documentary in a hope to help others with their studies and I truly respect Lionel for sharing these tapes..

  • @Scottallen8909
    @Scottallen8909 Před 8 měsíci +4

    I don’t know what the crime rate is for the State of Wisconsin but when it comes to the worst most awful criminal minds are for the most part in Wisconsin. Dahmer , The Slender Man case , Steven Avery , Darrell Brooks who drove through the Waukesha Christmas Parade , so many that have become the kinda stuff that movies are made of.

    • @margaretcastellano3167
      @margaretcastellano3167 Před 8 měsíci

      Wow, very good point. 😮

    • @shgb44
      @shgb44 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Don't forget Gein!

    • @shgb44
      @shgb44 Před 8 měsíci

      Depends on what statistic you want. WHICH violent crime?

    • @margaretcastellano3167
      @margaretcastellano3167 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@shgb44 Vinnie should do a show on Wisconsin killers!😱

    • @shgb44
      @shgb44 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @margaretcastellano3167 - Actually, the likelihood of being killed by a serial murderer in the U.S. is in direct proportion to state population. The most likely state is CA; the least likely is SD.

  • @sw6118
    @sw6118 Před 8 měsíci +2

    They just wanted to try getting away with something and then they did. They don’t care about people they don’t know except if the stranger is useful to use up and throw away.

  • @IdkIdk-gt2ej
    @IdkIdk-gt2ej Před 8 měsíci +2

    13:15 did jeff just admit that his father is failing?💀

  • @Mandola-Jane
    @Mandola-Jane Před 8 měsíci +1

    That was so interesting

  • @moomyung9231
    @moomyung9231 Před 8 měsíci +10

    I feel bad for the families of killers. Like Lionel seemed to genuinely love his son, and that must've been difficult knowing what he'd done. I don't know if I could've kept a good relationship with my child if I was in his position, but I'm also not a parent.

    • @YIKESMF
      @YIKESMF Před 8 měsíci +2

      His father gave me very weird vibes. Anytime I saw him give interviews afterward. Such a creepy vibe. 😳

    • @merricat3025
      @merricat3025 Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@YIKESMFI think dad is on autism spectrum.

    • @shgb44
      @shgb44 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@merricat3025 - Dahmer was believed to have been, but people on the spectrum are RARELY violent. It is thought he was both on the spectrum and sexually sadistic.

    • @merricat3025
      @merricat3025 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @gary5080 I was referring to dad being on Spectrum and him seeming odd ( the person commenting about creepy vibes from him). Dad demeanor reminds me of some people I have met with autism. I can see that with Jeff, too. Jeffrey is an interesting case of what happened. His childhood wasn't that bad from what we know. I always wondered if his mom did something to him. She was quick to say, "It's not her fault," but maybe she didn't. He could have been a lonely little boy with the wrong genetics traits from both parents and add gay in the mix at time harder to be gay. I always felt someone SA him as child.

    • @thescourge6827
      @thescourge6827 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@shgb44he was neither on the spectrum nor sadistic. He had paraphilias and was morally bankrupt

  • @kylew2165
    @kylew2165 Před 8 měsíci +6

    Sick of BTK's daughter being a talking head all of a sudden. Go debrief somewhere else.

  • @sherimann6144
    @sherimann6144 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I'm usually more impressed with court tv! This piece is tooth pulling SLOW! Get to the freakin point!!

    • @shgb44
      @shgb44 Před 8 měsíci

      What's the matter, you want deep information in a soundbyte because you have the attention span of a gnat?

  • @Woltrilauquist
    @Woltrilauquist Před 8 měsíci +1

    Isnt it a bit early to put Rex Heuermann in the intro with other serial killers when he has not been trialed yet. This could probably get you sued if he is found "not guilty"

  • @peterbustin2683
    @peterbustin2683 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Families can be a blessing or a curse, for sure.

  • @ambre6490
    @ambre6490 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Well, at least he spoke and was cooperative with police officers.. sure he helped them to "understand" more the mind of an serial killer.

  • @toribern816
    @toribern816 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Took time, but he got what’s coming to him. Whole thing was sad. He was sorry imo.

  • @noriwilliams4637
    @noriwilliams4637 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Dahmer didnt believe in God he wanted to continue being a beast , simple. Why try to understand them?

  • @camellia8625
    @camellia8625 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I hope the proceeds from the new book go to the victims

  • @tessaleroux7725
    @tessaleroux7725 Před 8 měsíci +31

    Dahmer has always fascinated me. I actually feel sorry for him as he had an aweful childhood and he sort of killed and kept body parts because he did not want his victims to leave him. Very sad and one could see that he showed remorse for what he did. May his Soul RIP

    • @wotiluv
      @wotiluv Před 8 měsíci +20

      Committing heinous crimes because you’re lonely is pure insanity just as heinous is having sympathy for a serial killer who’s taken the lives of innocent people in such horrific ways. The only souls who should RIP are Dahmer’s victims not him.

    • @dreamcrazy36
      @dreamcrazy36 Před 8 měsíci +10

      There’s nothing to feel sorry for except for his victims and their families. He knew what he was doing was wrong reason he hid it. He’s not crazy.

    • @wotiluv
      @wotiluv Před 8 měsíci +14

      @@dreamcrazy36 it blows my mind that someone would feel sorry for a SK 😳

    • @toribern816
      @toribern816 Před 8 měsíci +3

      He’s always been my fave.

    • @RWRogers
      @RWRogers Před 8 měsíci +3

      Truly fascinating dude! I think because he’s forthcoming and sympathetic in some ways for it. It’s also kinda worse because he still kept doing it, despite FEELING bad for those he hurt around him. It was this intense fear of abandonment and loneliness he suffered from. But I mean… really?!
      There’s therapy, reaching out for help, building relationships and friendships, etc. what he did was totally sadistic and evil and twisted. Just consider what he was actually really doing and the fear he put into these folks in their final minutes. And then what he did to them after.
      I understand feeling sympathetic for him IN SOME WAY - just not as an excuse for what he did. He totally got what he deserved and that’s that. The fact is.. there’s really no cure for these types of folks and the world is better without them.

  • @Aquarius444K
    @Aquarius444K Před 8 měsíci +2

    Lionel Dahmer has blood on his hands for the monster his son is and the monstrous acts he committed.
    Of course Jeffrey is the culprit and a disgusting "human", but his Dad is so fucked up. Imagine thinking "ooh I'll write a book!" to make money off of my cannibal serial killer son!"? I am glad that Jeffrey spoke about his inner mechanisms, and (seemed to be) honest about his thoughts/feelings/actions. I don't believe he actually felt bad, I believe he was smart so he learned how to seem like he felt bad. In no way am I defending him, but damn he did go through some fucked up stuff and got 0 help for it as a kid. I wish we could have studied more about him while he was alive, and studied his brain.

    • @joanbaczek2575
      @joanbaczek2575 Před 8 měsíci

      His dad wrote that book as soul searching and made sure the money went to victims and non profits that help dysfunctional kids

  • @audreydaleski1067
    @audreydaleski1067 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Dahmer wasn't stupid.

  • @sullycliftona888
    @sullycliftona888 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Click bait. Theirs nothing new here

  • @audreydaleski1067
    @audreydaleski1067 Před 8 měsíci

    BTK really spilled his guts. Will Rex?

  • @Diane-xh7vl
    @Diane-xh7vl Před 8 měsíci +1

    This is not "NEW" info this has already been aired if you already did your homework 🤨

  • @juniorjohnson5961
    @juniorjohnson5961 Před 8 měsíci +4

    It seems like they are mixed up sexually.IMO

    • @pinkorganichorse
      @pinkorganichorse Před 8 měsíci +1

      It always starts with porn

    • @LearningCurves123
      @LearningCurves123 Před 8 měsíci +2

      ​@@pinkorganichorse Not always.

    • @YIKESMF
      @YIKESMF Před 8 měsíci +1

      People watch porn all the time and don't kill or eat people!! 😂😂😂😂

  • @rachealjohnson9739
    @rachealjohnson9739 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Random thought: I'm surprised he owned fish 😂😂😂😂

  • @mitchkora
    @mitchkora Před 8 měsíci +2

    Click bait

  • @257rani
    @257rani Před 8 měsíci +1

    Families also compartmentalized, as they were getting a lots help.

  • @Lenore4Evermore
    @Lenore4Evermore Před 8 měsíci +1

    Dr. Brucato :)

  • @amrahfusion
    @amrahfusion Před 7 měsíci

    He was the only one who was aware about it, that something wasn't right with him...

  • @stacyn.
    @stacyn. Před 8 měsíci +1

    All Guilty As Hell.

  • @insatiableme333
    @insatiableme333 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Get to it

    • @shgb44
      @shgb44 Před 8 měsíci

      What does this mean?

  • @limalikat4652
    @limalikat4652 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Skip to 5:48 to avoid the pointless rambling.

  • @speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783
    @speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I'll never forget the song, Jeffrey Dahmer went to heaven...

  • @Dingle1234
    @Dingle1234 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Dahmer's father looks like a twin of that minister who made friends with Bundy. Talks like him too.

  • @donaldewert2332
    @donaldewert2332 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Hello from Milwaukee, a great place on a great lake!!! Dahmer is history!!!

  • @257rani
    @257rani Před 8 měsíci +1

    Is Jeffrey. D. The biological child of his parents?

  • @Dingle1234
    @Dingle1234 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Everyone gets down on the spouses. Good grief, if you can do this for years and not get caught, why is it so implausible that you could keep it secret from your wife? I'd guess the most likely clue they'd have is pressure in the bedroom to do things they don't like. Aggressive body language and facial expressions. Is sex with him creepy, to put it bluntly.

    • @ferguson8143
      @ferguson8143 Před 7 měsíci

      Dennis never had sex or raped his victims and only had sex with his wife and masturbate a lot

  • @dreamscomingtrue6424
    @dreamscomingtrue6424 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I have watched every horror movie and love all things horror, but the things he did, I couldn’t even watch the Netflix series I had to skip stuff. I always felt nauseous throughout

    • @WASLKHL
      @WASLKHL Před 8 měsíci

      I stopped watching on the second one in the movie. I couldn’t stand it either. Did his dad make 💰💰 off that series??

  • @samanthalake5011
    @samanthalake5011 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Lionel is a little serial killerish to me too. 😅

    • @YIKESMF
      @YIKESMF Před 8 měsíci

      Children do in fact, learn what they live. 😢

    • @samanthalake5011
      @samanthalake5011 Před 8 měsíci

      @@YIKESMF facts

    • @shgb44
      @shgb44 Před 8 měsíci

      Then you should learn more about serial killers, beyond silly television stereotypes.

    • @andreaperini3982
      @andreaperini3982 Před 8 měsíci

      I think Lionel secretly deep inside admires "the media status persona" that Jeffrey became after the murders and that's why he became closer to his son again.

    • @samanthalake5011
      @samanthalake5011 Před 8 měsíci

      @@shgb44 are YOU a serial killer?!

  • @audreydaleski1067
    @audreydaleski1067 Před 8 měsíci

    I feel karen should never have been charged with murder.

  • @YourSecretIsSafeWithMe
    @YourSecretIsSafeWithMe Před 8 měsíci

    Why would your wife and son watch you on television and they can see you at home?🙄

  • @audreydaleski1067
    @audreydaleski1067 Před 8 měsíci

    Culture, how we do things.

  • @BlueBelle-711
    @BlueBelle-711 Před 5 měsíci

    BTK terrifies me. 👿

  • @catheydaniel6952
    @catheydaniel6952 Před 8 měsíci +9

    Dahmers father: continuing to sell out his son even after all these years.

    • @FelisThis
      @FelisThis Před 8 měsíci +3

      I agree. I'm just surprised he hasn't already cashed in those tape recorded phone calls.

    • @missmiss5051
      @missmiss5051 Před 8 měsíci

      He gives money to the victims families, unlike some other "family members" these days.

  • @YourSecretIsSafeWithMe
    @YourSecretIsSafeWithMe Před 8 měsíci +1

    Who cares about their families?

  • @joycewedel9084
    @joycewedel9084 Před 8 měsíci +2

    How did his Father react when he found out that his son was even eating his human victims?

  • @mohamedalsarari
    @mohamedalsarari Před 7 měsíci

    He just had a thirst for blood and killing was his only way, might've been a hobby for him. He exactly knew what he was doing.

  • @danaroehrs4025
    @danaroehrs4025 Před 8 měsíci +1

    WOW f in WOW

  • @1172mak
    @1172mak Před 8 měsíci +1

    SIN! 👿

  • @blingfire1850
    @blingfire1850 Před 8 měsíci

    Serial Killer wasn't their job title, lol. People with this level of disorder tend to present themselves to different people extremely differently whether they are murderers or not.

  • @X3554
    @X3554 Před 8 měsíci

    I feel like he was sick he needed A LOT of treatment even his neighbour vernal bass said he wasnt a killer he was a murderer theres a big difference between the two vernal expressed was a friend to him and how he felt after the truth was revealed.

  • @brendaredmond4678
    @brendaredmond4678 Před 8 měsíci +10

    Jeffrey Dahmer was a very misunderstood young man. He was abandoned by both of his parents who left him to fend for himself as a teenager. I dont think he was evil, I think he was sick. Vinnie, I think Jeffery was all of those things you mentioned. I think he was born with certain proclivities and he was a product of his upbringing. He had genuine remorse.

    • @margaretcastellano3167
      @margaretcastellano3167 Před 8 měsíci +2

      🎯🎯 I think his parents abandonment really did a job on him. I can’t believe I’m saying this but I don’t think he was evil, as well. He was lonely, very sick, and just wanted so much to make his Dad proud. These beliefs don’t stop me from praying for the victims’ families or being extremely horrified with what he did. 😢

    • @gamingqueen3913
      @gamingqueen3913 Před 8 měsíci +1

      He is what he was.

    • @shgb44
      @shgb44 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Dahmer was known to have been on the autism spectrum and did not adjust well in terms of social relationships. He sought odd, overly scientific ways of reducing relationships to a predictable science. But he knew right from wrong. He was also morally disturbed.

    • @margaretcastellano3167
      @margaretcastellano3167 Před 8 měsíci

      @@shgb44 I didn’t know that. Another piece to the puzzle.

    • @shgb44
      @shgb44 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Yes, it is a controversial issue but he was on the spectrum. Such people are rarely violent but there have been some exceptions: Adam Lanza, Elliot Rodger, a few others.

  • @cgass0109
    @cgass0109 Před 8 měsíci

    Absolutely some serial killers feel love. Richard Kuklinski loved his wife and kids fiercely. He killed for work more than he die pleasure, so he's quite different than a standard sk.

  • @crystalshaw8744
    @crystalshaw8744 Před 7 měsíci

    The host man ...he talks too much. Going on and on about HIS family. Dude, unless one was a serial killer, lets get on with it. And yes, I did fast forward or whatever u do on a phone.

  • @audreydaleski1067
    @audreydaleski1067 Před 8 měsíci

    Accidentally manslaughter or the people in the house did. Weak case for prosecution.

  • @cinnamongirl5410
    @cinnamongirl5410 Před 8 měsíci

    I just don't see that (self named) 'btk" in the class with the rest. He did this because he was a small town frompy dog catcher who wanted his name remembered. No looks, talent or great intellect, this was his way of being somebody (to him anyway). He's now constantly trying to insert himself into every other thing going on. He was someone driven by a want for notoriety, so over rode all the revulsion, empathy etc to get the job done. It's not like the ones who tried to hide it and get by as long as they could, driven by some compulsion. I strongly don't believe all serial killers can be classed the same at all, and doing so is a mistake.

  • @brandonbrooks3033
    @brandonbrooks3033 Před 8 měsíci

    THOSE ARENT THE REAL VOICES OF JEFF OR HIS DAD!!!

  • @audreydaleski1067
    @audreydaleski1067 Před 8 měsíci

    They know how to isolate wife.

  • @andrewwilliams2405
    @andrewwilliams2405 Před 8 měsíci

    'different columns' 😂

    • @shgb44
      @shgb44 Před 8 měsíci

      Nobody has any idea what you're talking about.

  • @January.
    @January. Před 8 měsíci

    like X 100

  • @Diane-xh7vl
    @Diane-xh7vl Před 8 měsíci

    This is highly speculative

    • @shgb44
      @shgb44 Před 8 měsíci

      Be specific. I personally see nothing speculative.