WI v. Jeffrey Dahmer (1992): Dr. Frederick Fosdal Pt. 2
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- WI V. DAHMER (1992) - Psychiatrist Dr. Frederick Fosdal, who evaluated Jeffrey Dhamer, takes the stand. "As far as his first choice, his real sexual interest was not in a corpse," Dr. Frederick Fosdal testified at Dahmer's insanity trial. Fosdal testified that Dahmer suffered from necrophilia "before, during and after" his slayings.
A new Netflix documentary "Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story" explores the gruesome story of Jeffrey Dahmer. Court TV cameras were inside the Wisconsin courtroom in 1992, where a jury was tasked to decide whether Dahmer, who pleaded guilty to the murders and dismemberment of 15 boys and men, should be sentenced to life in prison or admitted to a mental institution.
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where is part 3? and do you have the footage of tracy edwards cross examination?
@@lesleighbutler8623 the rest is on the court tv site but it’ll make you accept cookies and it will force you to consent to it using your information and data!! Why?!
🤗🤫
Moral of the story don’t talk to strangers
also: Moral of the story pay more attention to them, so you can keep yourself safe.😢
😆
Exactly
And stay strapped. N hit a boxing gym. 1luv
@@Canna-Bliss so,so
Thanx!
He had about 200 partners?? Dahmer got around damn…
I love American Law and how transparent you are with cases. We get next to nothing in Australia and often people aren't given fair trials. Your Court System is extremely thorough and professional.
The police officers handed a boy to him despite multiple calls asking about his welfare, and many complaints were filed against him to no avail. He could've been stopped a long time ago, but they dismissed reports against him.
Yes I criminal system is good but like anything it does have its flaws
Kangaroo courts in Oz
@@Allandi89 Too right!
Australian authorities do not respect individual's rights. They are into social condemnation regardless of legal condemnation, which is primitive and the type of thing you saw in 1930s lynchings in the US of black people.
I feel the alcohol made his compulsions worse.
That and watching the exorcist over and over and working himself into a trance.
Alcohol is the real devil
Am i the only one who notices how uncomfortable Dahmers lawyer on his right is sitting beside him ? Acting like shes doing work and keeps giving him the side eye 😂
After watching the Netflix DAHMER, this takes it to an entire new level of disgusting. My heart hurts for the victims and families
It was not his fault. But yeah very sad
I live in the Grand Ave Mall where he picked up his last victim that escaped
Fuk dat all politicians need to meet Mr Dahmer
Do you think this could have been prevented by getting him help as a young boy?
Do you think he was born this way? What's your thoughts on that?
People drink to numb pain. I was an alcoholic for decades but am now 11 years sober (began drinking at 12-13 years old). I couldn’t face the abuse and neglect from growing up. Kids don’t drink unless terrible things are happening at home.
I remember this case as a kid.
@@jennyfragrance8246 good question. Perhaps consult a statistician.
Drinking to EMBOLDEN.
Nothing terrible happened to him. He was never hit, never sexually abused. He's evil
Have you been to Wisconsin? Every other person is a drunk
@@G274Me nothing else to do
I remember when this came out in the news. Everyone was shocked! This was a huge case.
Ya I remember also .. I was very young an my mom had the news on when I had gotten home from school .. I remember seeing the police being out that barrel an other evidence
Really wow no one knew 🙄
I was in my early twenties when I first heard about Jeffrey Dahmer's case and I remember listen to the news in the car. It was plastered on the news everyday.
Come on it's not so bad
@@blanewalker5512 Right there are people that have heard about cases like this before.
First of all the judge is absolutely disgusted already 🙅🏽♀️
lol, perhaps yeah, but how can you tell? He did smile a great lot Judge Gram
Indeed 😅
Nothing good ever comes out of a one night stand.... SMH
Abandonment Issues, Rejection Issues and Criminal Issues😡😡😡
Super intense description and watching the docu series makes it 100% more horrendous😔 I’m deeply sorry to the victims families having to live and listen to this🥺
I agree, I think the worst part of all this (being after the fact, of course), is that the families had to learn of how their love ones were duped, sexually assaulted, and (in many cases) tortured. I can't imagine how they've recovered from learning this.
@@le_th_ I mean, are there even words on this earth to describe that?! I can’t come close to imagine this. 😞
He was honest. He knew he was sick and that his desires were skewed. He opened himself up to be studied to try to help the professionals in future cases. His childhood had so much to do with his crimes.
Honest is one thing that Jeffrey Dahmer isn’t
If that's the case most people would be serial killers. He is just an evil person. On top of that he childhood wasn't exceptionally bad
@g not everyone is the same machine yes many had a horrible childhood but becoming a serial killer out of that depends on many factors some children are more vulnerable than others on top of it we dont really know how drugs taking by his mom while pregnant affected the infant but we are smart enough to understand it was dangerous for unborn child drugs she was taken was all of the benzos these kind of drugs are not a joke is easy to say he was an evil but no kid is born an evil....
@yanal.k.2355 some children are born psychopaths, which gives you the courage and lack of empathy to do these things. But it is up to them, they make these choices so no kids aren't born evil but they're born with tremendous opportunities to become these evil people. Psychopaths are known for their constant boredom and need for some kind of adrenaline, they're known for not having any empathy whatsoever, no remorse, etc. These things will 100% at least make them think about doing horrible things since they basically don't care about people, but some of them choose not to and that's not to say they all are thinking of committing these crimes, but if they did, which they usually do, it will make it a lot easier for them to go through with it and not feel any type of emotion like regret or guilt.
@@8luvbugi agree but your childhood doesn't have to be abusive in the sense of like physical abuse or psychological, for you to end up like this, your parents can literally make you a sociopath if they never bother to teach you basic empathy or emotions that are needed to be a good person(neglect), and/or if they never show you that THEY themselves possess this empathy. Empathy is taught and learnt usually, if a child never has an example of what it means to be a kind and empathic person, they will most likely become a sociopath.
Imagine one of us sitting next to Jeffrey Dahmer 😳
Ahhhh, you would not have to worry about anything happening you are a female Anna! Come on now, make it make sense? In all reality you could possibly be sitting next to someone that could commit something worse than Dahmer ever imagined possible
All these people watch a Netflix series and all of a sudden know everything 😆
Not all people .. some of us watch true crime all the time, some of us read up on serial killers; we don't just watch a series, and think we know it all ..
“Criminal reporting another criminal “..😂😂
oh ?! Do tell, lol ! What juicy detail have I not heard ?
@@thatcanadianchick7589 Tracy was involved with homicide which took him to the prison as well.
Tracy Edwards wasn’t a criminal at the time he testified against Dahmer. That came years later.
I remember being 10 years old when this happened, the summer of 91, there was a Newsweek magazine at my house with Jeff on the cover, I remember my mom and my Godmother talking about how sick he was, and I kept asking them about it and remember being so drawn to this story, then a few years later I remember hearing about him being murdered in prison, people were saying someone rammed a mop up Jeff's ass, and that's what he gets, but I remember feeling saddened by the news, this whole story is just really sad
Lo del trapeador es literal? No sé porqué creo que un violador se merece algo así... Es muy poco para lo que hizo. Y tampoco me alegro de ninguna muerte. Toda perdida humana es triste pero con Jeff todo es muy confuso.
That's call empathy....i wish this kind of things never happens in Life...
jeff? interesting how you two are on a nickname basis 😂
@@GuidoLuzzi that’s the name he went by dumbass
@@GuidoLuzziI was thinking the same thing and I’m also an eye for an eye kinda gal I have empathy but not for this POS he got exactly what he deserved at least he had a fair chance to fight for his life unlike all the poor victims he drugged! And murdered! I’m happy this evil POS is not on this earth anymore
I can't understand ppl here criticizing the Doc's Testimony. He had a terrible Cold that Day he said it in the Beginning yet it didn't keep him from testifying in a Courtroom, in a Case with this Magnitude and Cameras around him!
Now that everyone watched the new Netflix serious on him, everyone is now a lawyer, Doctor, criminal investigator etc... 🤔🤔🤔🤣🤣😂😂 I'm just hear for the comments and arguments 😂😂😂
The problem with a dramatisation like that is that it makes the whole thing pass into legend and subverts and muddies the original perception of the evidence in real life. Jeffrey Dahmer's case was one I originally researched in 2007, then continually revisited that research in 2013 and 2017. This including collecting case files, evidence, videos, etc, everything I could get my hands on in its original format (if possible).
The Netflix thing and the new documentary has completey distorted and muddied perceptions. A lot of the definitve and original details have been lost or forgotten with this case's renewed interest amongst a younger generation. I don't think henceforth discovering the Dahmer murders (after Netflix) is going to be the same as it once was...a lot of objectivity seems to have been thrown out of the window.
Dahmer was caught in the year that I was born. 🤔
I can’t believe bath houses are legal. 🥴🤢
Well as sick as Jeffrey Dahmer was we have to admit he was honest for what he did unlike other serial killers who keep denying what they did like Richard Ramirez, Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy etc.
Just because he has some verifiable truths doesn't mean he did lie or conceal some things. I do think he has more victims out there that he didn't confess to. Jeffrey isn't special or better for confessing, other serial killers have confessed to. Probably self serving anyway
How do you know he was honest??? What evidence do you have? I mean, aside from the word of a serial sexual predator and serial murderer?
Do you realize you ridiculous you sound???
You are probably a VERY decent human being, who is relatively honest. What you can't wrap your head around is that people with character disorder lie as easily as they breathe....and they can look right in your eyes, without flinching, when they do it.
You cant really denie it or lie about it if you’ve been caught with dismembered bodys in your room and fridge thats one of the reasons why he told the full truth I mean he was caught with dismembered bodys in his room and fridge they weren’t just placed there for decoration right who else could it be✌️
@@8luvbugthere was zero link between Dahmer and Hicks, he could have taken that information to his grave, but like he said he wanted to help identify the victims. If he willingly gave that information to police I doubt there would be other victims that he would have kept secret.
@@deedsyosu071 This is naive thinking. Serial killers spend most of their lives manipulating and deceiving people. If there's a victim they don't want people to know about for whatever reason they will not tell you. I personally think he killed Adam Walsh but didn't confess to it because Adam was a small child and you get treated badly in prison for crimes against kids and he can't give a good excuse for why he killed him that would put him in a sympathetic light. Serial killers always try to find a way to explain/excuse their abhorrent actions in a way that doesn't make them look as bad as they already do. Jeffrey's is "I killed them so they wouldn't abandon me." "I drugged them so they wouldn't feel pain" Even though it takes 5 minutes to strangle someone to death. You should take what serial killers say with a grain of salt.
Well this was extremely unpleasant to hear. I can’t imagine the suffering of the victims families and I hope they were able to at the very least get some closure, because I doubt the emotional wounds ever went away. A terrible, terrible situation!😢
Why didn't he go to school and study biology/physiology if he's fascinated with bodies?
He was a alcoholic which resulted in horrible grades
Why would he when he was doing that in his apartment. This is why he was murdering people, like some weirdo 😱
He went to Ohio state, his dad who was a professor got him in. It didn’t last, due to the alcohol issues and such. Also was a medical technician in the army. Which also didn’t last, due to alcoholism.
Because he didn't want to
Because he wanted more than just to study the bodies
imagine having a shitty cold when you've got to testify after what has been months if not years of forensic investigation into a serial killers' psychopathy. It's really effecting his testimony must have annoyed the heck out of him
somebody not trashing this poor dr. thank you.
Might not be out of nowhere... would be tough on the mind and body to reports these facts and words, would make a few of us coughing too...
😷😷
Dahmer felt lost when he tried to be normal
If he constantly went out cruising on Saturdays, then he may have had more than 17 victims 😮! The 2nd victim was never found 😢. Did the police ever check on more missing males during the 80s in that area and beyond that area? And… how did JDevil get the prescriptions filled for 3 years? Automatically? No one asked about the refill? 😮. This is beyond horrific even so many years later 😢.
I think they felt he was pretty truthful in his confession and therefore didn’t really investigate the possibility of more victims. There is a theory that he killed Adam Walsh as he was in that area of Florida at the same time, so who knows. Not sure why he would admit to such horrific stuff and leave other victims out of it.
He was out a lot and got drunk in different bars yes, but very often he just came home without taking anybody with him. Also there were some months where he tried but failed to take somebody home. I also don‘t think he would let another victim out in his confessions.
The prescriptions are the least of the oversights -he could've gone doctor shopping, after all he knew what symptoms it took to get them prescribed, switching to a different physician after a while - this guy was serving parole for SA-ing a minor during the time of the murders and he didn't get violated once! Even after the police were called when the kid escaped and they handed him back to him, or him leaving town, or him having dead bodies and human remains openly in literally every corner of his apartment his P.O. didn't even visit him once. This guy fell through so many cracks!
I think there is many more victims
@@G274Me because he took some of his secrets to his grave and he was afraid of how the detective kennedy would react to such an admission. He had formed what he thought was a friendship during his confession, there was several things Kennedy had to constantly question him about to get him to open up about, there is no way he took a 9 year break from his crimes. He admitted to what evidence they found in his apartment and what could be found at his parents and grandmothers
This trial was 30 years ago and it seem as if it just happened. Smh he got what he deserved.
He deserved worse
No because that would make me old pfft this was recent
I remember when it was on the news I was in High School.
Not really unless you’re young and never heard the story.
@@Ackerman_77 same
Sobre Dahmer já tinha estudado muita coisa...
Entretanto,a série trouxe muitos outros detalhes macabros dele. Já assisti todos os 10 episódios e fiquei até enojada.
Mas,saibam de uma coisa.
Quando a criança demonstra algo atípico a sua idade é bom ficar de olho...
Pois,algo não está certo.
Outra,não justificando nada aqui. Mas,ele tinha AVERSÃO a sua condição homossexual,por isso o desejo assassino. Não se aceitava. E infelizmente,todos esses crimes aconteceram por causa do racismo nas comunidades negras q na década de 80 e 90 eram bem mais fortes do q hj.
Quem ia suspeitar de um cara branco ,com olhos azuis e "boa pinta" como ele???
Quem iria dá voz de prisão???
Quem iria dá valor a voz de uma vizinha negra,q já suspeitava de algo errado algum tempo????
Além disso,parafilias como necrofilia e canibalismo eram as suas outras práticas horrendas e demoníacas.
Entretanto,msm q se tentem dá uma explicação a esses fatos bizarros,ainda assim ficaremos sem a resposta.
Cool
The fact that this is being streamed makes it feel like it’s happening in real time lmao
In such good quality too lmao he's back!
what¿
What’s “lmao” about this? Y’all dumb af.
I can't lmao with this case.
@@orangewarm1 why? It's not like we're "eyao? Eating your ass off. A common saying dahmer use to say instead of lmao
You dont realize how disturbed and scary this man was w/o hearing it from the people that were in this case and around him. This is the real life boogeyman that you see in movies
Yes, and back when he was doing most of his killing, he was a fairly decent-looking guy, and not the weirdo that he looks like after years in prison.
He was a typical charm-and-harm predator, who could turn on that charm while duping a victim and luring them into his lair....and then, like all predators, that predatory switch flips on like flipping a light switch on, and you see the REAL monster.
I was a child when this trial was going, and I can remember it just like it just happened. Also I was so glad and my parents were too when he was killed in prison. This brought back memories.
Wow. How self righteous you are. I’ll bet you’re a perfect human.
Wats ur age dear bcoz it's from 1992 , ur quiet grown wish I could feel this case in it's full glory😔
Glory? What is wrong with you?
@@darkknight04299you need help
I cannot believe the poor victims family members had to listen to this...
They could have walked out just like any other court room
He looked ashamed in the trial !
That's because he was. He was not a psychopath, so he felt regret and empathy and all that. He didn'tt even like the killing part. He just couldn't stop the horrible things he did.
He was bored not ashamed
Can’t fault his conduct though he never was cocky or arrogant like other ones he fully accepted he was a bad person
He looked tired
More like defeated
It seems kind of ludicrous for the defense attorney to even voice an objection at this point.
He pleaded guilty to all 15 counts so this is just a hearing to find out from a professional if Jeffrey was sane or not.
sentencing portion of the trial
Somewhat, it's also fair trial. Even if someone pleads guilty everyone is entitled to due process.
This was a trial to determine Dahmer's sanity.
@@susanjohnston3627 I absolutely agree. Seems so unnecessary to take this long. The doctor could take the stand and literally give a yes or no answer as to if he felt he was sane or not lol. A full 30 seconds
15 count what happen to the 2????
That doctor should have retired, wrote a book and take a hot shower
Lol
lmsao
Is there any part. 3 or something?
Seems like ever other person is popping up saying they went to school with Dahmer, sold groceries to him once, etc...
Break to LUNCH? After listening to all of that gruesome horror?
Imagine how much different this guy dahmer would be in todays age with gay acceptance and online dating which supports that sexuality. Wouldn’t have been rejected the same way. Or less of a chance at least.
Dude he liked having sex with them when they were passed out... that has nothing to do with being accepted of being gay....
Nothing to do with that
He had no problem getting sex, and he didn’t want a relationship. He wasn’t capable of loving someone. He liked killing people, he got off on it.
True
there are real monsters he was from the depth of hell i can’t even imagine the pain his victims went through just disgusting i pray his victims are at peace that poor dr must still have nightmares. those family’s and victims having to endure this than a movie on Netflix my heart goes out to them
His victims felt no pain, they were strangled while they were knocked out on sleep meds
That’s even more worse. Drugging so you can’t fight back. Like the attorney said, let him have his knive just give me a chsnce let me fight for my life !
@@06mrselfdestruct no they didn't feel pain.
@@06mrselfdestruct he drilled into multiple victim’s skulls. Inches deep. Particularly the one victim who the police walked back to his apartment. Im sure there was pain.
@@kjm561 I’m talking about when they were killed, they were unconscious when he strangled them
Reported that other kids at school noticed him getting drunk at school at 8 - 9 o'clock in the morning. Seens like there's no reports what the school did and what his parents did. Drinking whiskey 🥂 at 9am, alarm dells ringing. Mother moved away when he was 18, and only saw jeff just the once in person from then. Just because you know something is wrong in the eye's of the law, dose this make a person sane?
Did anyone ever ask him if he gave that sleeping concoction to the grandmother, because that lady surrre can sleep!!
Lol
Damn, why couldnt this guy just find a boyfriend?
He was an alcoholic living with his grandmother. Not exactly boyfriend material.
Why couldn’t grandma just let him keep his mannequin
@ThePaletteWhisperer ASMR - He didn't like his homosexuality, he struggled with it. He didn't want any man to do anything sexually to him. He wanted to do it with them and have the control.
He didn't want one clearly
Necrophilia
The psychologist sounds and seems more psycho and um um um um than the Dahmer himself....his Every sentence starts with um
Woah! I was like 6 when this happened so this is awesome. Lol
I was 2 years old 😢
I was 6 too
@@katolivares1055 Lisett we look amazing, doll!
We’re not impressed.
I haven’t born yet that time
Funny how EVERYBODY that didn't know Dahmer are flocking to these videos after watching the Netflix series. Remember, the series changes things for dramatic purposes, people's names etc.
Ok what would be the point of changing things drastically in this case? He was a monster and these events sound more horrific in real life.
The names were the same. They took creative license with dialog to drive the plot.
@@bellissima78 yes, they also changed things for dramatic purposes. The one that got away, was never gay, did not meet Dahmer in a gay club. But the show shows us that they met at a gay club.
Soo what's funny?.. Flocking to these videos (real videos) would be a good thing. Now, they can learn more and facts. Netflix exposed many people to the story and they did good enough job to tell the story. By watching film from the trial, it only makes it better....
And ? Knowing Dahmer case then and now doesn’t change the fact that it was a monster! The Netflix series may have changed things here and there but it showed what a monster he was so I done really see the point of your comment !Lol
It wasn’t necessary to use “flocking” lol
Part 3?
Don't trust anyone. Don't eat from anyone. Cook your own food
This doc seems to have grown a relationship with dahmer and irritated with the defense side 🙄
Every doctor, every person he talked to got close to him and many of them like him which is weird because they knew he was a serial killer, I cant empatize with him, he seems like a liar to me, a very smart and manipulative person
When you think of the things mentioned in the news, they aren't the most interesting aspects of the case. Simply throwing out words like 17 homicides, gays, blacks, minorities, cannibalism, drilling holes in skulls and injecting acid - those things presented in raw form aren't anywhere near as interesting as the details of say Tuomi's body after death and how it was transported and disposed of, the thinking behind Doxtator's death, the way that Sears approached Dahmer at a club (La Cage) and Dahmer wasn't even looking for a victim at that time (and Sears' friend who said Dahmer was ok to go with when he asked him). Then there's the Tony Hughes affair that took a year to "come to fruition" in Dahmer's terms, the way Errol Lindsey died on the way to get a key cut and pick up some milk, the way Dahmer started sourcing victims in Chicago where their disappearance would attract less attention due to it being a much larger city (and how he caught buses there and back after luring in a victim). The most interesting aspects of the case are barely mentioned by the media.
oh oh oh oh to grandmother's house we goooooo
How in the hell!!! could you not search garbage bags in the back seat of a car that's out driving around at 3:00 in the morning. When some peoples' (?) entire car is searched if they're out at 3:00 in the afternoon?!!!
White privilege
Different times back then
Disturbing yet interesting to listen to. The whole thing about suppressing the more "normal" human behaviours like masturbation and just his general homosexuality seems like an unhealthy thing to do. That's something everyone does and it's okay. Of course the things he was fantasising about were far from okay but I do wonder if he had been able to be openly gay would he be different? I kinda doubt it though because it sounds like the weird thoughts were always there, the not wanting partners to move around during sex and stuff is very odd so there's no wonder he couldn't form normal relationships. But I just think not engaging in his more 'normal' human desires does not sound like a healthy thing. I understand he was excessive with his habits and that was a problem but in general I don't think it should be something anyone should try to suppress because I feel like that in itself can cause deviant type behaviour. But that's just a theory. I just wonder where these gross things came from, was it always there or was it created due to the activities he was getting involved in from a young age with help from his dad?
I don't consider him someone who suppressed his sexuality. If he had dated women or was married or lived a double life, I would have agreed with you but he COMPLETELY AVOIDED WOMEN and was constantly at gay bars and bathhouses so which part that was about him suppressing his sexuality? He might not have told his parents but he actively practiced s homosexual lifestyle. I think people are always trying to find an explanation to blame for why he did what he did instead of just accepting it for what it is. Being sexually suppressed is not even related to cannibalism, taking pictures and storing bodies in acid so please stop it. It's disrespectful to the victims and their families to try to explain why what happened to the loved ones did
@@sarkie3927 I'm talking about the period of time when he was going to church with his grandmother, avoiding the gay bars, trying not to get involved in gay sex or even have thoughts about sex with men. He went 9 years without giving in to his urges after his first kill and then someone dropped a note in front of him when he was at the library asking him to meet in the bathroom for a BJ (which he didn't go through with) but it made him realise that he could be out there doing these things with men so you clearly don't know much about the case. People have careers based around trying to find out what drives these people to do what they do, wanting to know why, what caused it, whether he was born this way or created due to his childhood etc. So how is it disrespectful to want answers? That's a dumb statement.
@@lynsey4224 I know the case very well and HE NEVER SAID THOSE 9 YEARS WAS BECAUSE HE WAS AVOIDING GAY BARS, GOING TO CHURCH WITH HID GRANDMA ETC. YOU OBVIOUSLY SOUND LIKE THE ONE WHO DOESN'T KNOW THE CASE. After his first kill part of that time he spent r@ping his colleagues in the army in Germany, WITHOUT GOING TO ANY GAY BARS!!! During that time he beat up his roommates and r@ped them repeatedly. He also learned which drugs to use to make people fall asleep. He was always either planning or preparing himself even when he was not actively killing. The gay bars were just an easy place but even without them he would still have found a way.
My point is 1. He is the only one giving information about why he is the way he is and he can add or remove information and nobody would know because they are full depending on one person for information which goes against science. 2. Even HE HIMSELF SAID HE DIDN'T KNOW WHY HE DID IT SO HOW SUCCESSFUL AND YOU GOING TO BE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT ONE MAN'S MIND when he's literally the only one giving you information. 3. It's like you people want to give reasons to JUSTIFY AND SATISFY your curiosity about WHY he did it, to have something to blame it on instead of blaming it on HIM. Blaming his childhood, the fact that he was lonely or his parents divorce doesn't JUSTIFY ANYTHING. People have gone through slavery and the Holocaust but didn't become serial killers, that's what annoys me about people like you. How do you think the victims families feel when people like you are trying to blame the death of their loved ones on someone's parents divorce or not so good childhood. YOU SOUND RIDICULOUS!
I don't think he mind telling people about being gay, he told police the 14 year old was some what of a lover...
@@sarahmclean9210 I'm talking about his own family. When he was young and he knew he was gay. He couldn't just tell his parents, his grandmother. Anyone really. But yeah I agree with you that he had no problem telling others when he was older, used it to his advantage in fact as I think at the time police were put off investigating anything to do with the gay community. That worked in Dahmer's favour unfortunately.
1:04:00-1:05:00 someone farts super loud in the quiet courtroom 😂😂😂
good catch haha to bad we don't have smell O vision 💩💨🤲👍. instead of scratch and sniff hear and whiff 😅
I thought that was the Johnny Depp trial 🤔
mic drop @ 17:12
Female defence lawyers either side of Dahmar don't batter an eyelid from all the horrific testimony. No qualms about the monster sitting between them. They all then adjourned for lunch which I'm sure they enjoyed without a second thought 🙄
The blonde said later she was horrified. She had spoken to jeff for many hours so she had heard and read and studied it all for many hours. It’s their job also to lend their conduct to the dignity of the proceedings so they are not supposed to show emotions
O Jeffrey Dahmer, doído pra estrangular o promotor! Kkkkkk.....49:56
I couldn’t watch the Netflix movie. It’s just sickening. WOW
Yes you did that's why you're here
How do you strangle someone with a barbell?
I’ve wondered this too!!!
Damn suitcases were cheap back then.
lol
😂😂 and I was having troubles grasping how you can fit a grown man in a suitcase- beyond me 🥴
His grandma, dad, and mom all have some failure in this monster
Hindsight
I understand his grandmother would take him to a local church in West Allis, WI. Why aren't fellow parishioners testifying? What about his co-workers from Ambrosia chocolate factory?
I was so scared in them scenes with the grandmother. Especially when she came into the living room with the boy Jeffery had just picked up.
@VinylViper and what about all the pills his mom was taking when she was pregnant and both barely raised him.
this evil bastard was born fk up,he would have done this no matter what,because your parent fail u don't make u eat people
I honestly think that he shouldn’t have gotten killed in prison but what’s history is history. I wish he would’ve gotten the chance to live his life out and rot in prison. That’s what he deserved. To live in the regret and the disgust of what he did for 40+ years.
Yeah I bet everyone feels like breaking for lunch after that. 🤮
Lol. Maybe they ate vegetarian lunch.
😂
😀My thoughts exactly.
He died in pain just like his victims 🤨
Probably not, if he was hit in the body he would have sort of felt those but barely because of the adrenaline rush he would have gotten in that moment, but once knocked unconscious it didn't matter how many times Scarver hit/bashed him, he wouldn't have felt a thing.
Dahmer wanted to die, that's obvious, even without a weapon he could have easily taken Scarver on his own, Scarver was able to beat Dahmer and the other dude because Dahmer did nothing to defend himself, he wanted to die and welcomed it, he probably got satisfaction in his own demise, more than he did in his victims. Had he defended himself against Scarver he and the other dude would still be alive today even with Scarver having a weapon. So I highly doubt he was in any kind or type of pain, instead was more so sexually satisfied in his own end.
Dahmer didn't defend himself because the first hit killed him instantly
@@8luvbug He died in a hospital though
@@nightname6 he was already dead by the time he went to the hospital
He drugged his victims before killing them.
I blame his Parents. They knew he had issues, and just did nothing
What exactly were they supposed to do? You actually think they knew he would grow up to eat people?!
Hindsight
It's easier to blame the parents for not knowing their child was doing something like this, than to believe this could go on without the parents knowing. I am sure you believe you would know if your child was doing something like this.
@@susanjohnston3627 i honestly would
I was always the mom where all the kids hung out
And me & my 3 always were very open w each other in terms of talking
My oldest daughter and i are bff now
Shes 38 and i was 22 just grad college when i had her
My last i was 38
I honestly would know!
But there by the grace of God i did not have a serial killer
But his mom used massive RX pregnant
Too
Then had serious mental i stability which is inherited
Soool
@@mattm8932 get him in rehab
My
Parents made my sister back in 70s go
And it was in Cleveland Ohio
People that kills so many people should be given the death penalty even if the state has banned it. I don't know, maybe after the third victim should become effective. I do feel empathy for Jeff and his parents though but it's extremely devastating what happened to these young men.
Jeff should've been instiutionalized and studied on. He was the perfect storm.
Well they were his clients
Sexual Lust that is not controlled is always dangerous 😡😡😡
So true
@Stateofsociety not all people from the LGBTQ community r like this!
@Stateofsociety this comment made you look stupid. What about heterosexual criminal preying on young women?
@@beverlyhaskell4425 it only takes 1
@@beverlyhaskell4425 Wait until you see what Ryan Murphy has planned for the next season of AHS. 😜
After binge watching Master Chef, I start watching this.... WHY?!
ALL of this could have been avoided if he was taught self cofidence and how to be assertive. Jeffrey Dahmer seemed to be too passive and when he got wasted he let out rage. He seemed to never be assertive at all, which made him snap I think.
your crazy as a fking bat Maybe you need help,if you think for a sec this monster would gave not did this he ate fking people
Stop making excuses for him, he did not have a traumatic childhood
@@BabyMaharaja0 having a bad past also is no excuse for bad behavior. We all have our problems and trauma it’s no excuse
Dont know about his upbringing and maybe some people are just born evil. He is also missing a moral compass. The way he narrated his crimes in such a matter or fact way it showed that he knew absolutely on a mental level that he was doing terrible things, that they were wrong. But unlike most normal people he lacks an emotional response to wrongdoing. Even at the end he is only feeling sorry for himself for being that way. No guilt, remorse, shame for the victims. He only wanted to fulfill his fantasies without any consideration of what others wanted.
Wow, are you ever ignorant, and especially about how moral character develops in the first 4 years of a child's life when their brain is developing.
drink ahem, some water ahem, dude ahem
Wtf... dude was doing way way way tooo much
SICKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK AND EVIL!!!!!!!
What matters is not if one is beautiful on the outside, but what they are like on the inside. Dahmer got it. 😋
OMG
When did Toby Maguire get in trouble?
It's Ryan Seacrest
@@megatherion2695 I thought he died @ Coachella when wild boars invaded his tent and woke up Amber Heard, which then stabbed Ryan.
I have a question If somebody have Hiv
If somebody like Jeffrey eat them Can he get Hiv?
I was asking myself the same question. If he cooked it probably not
@@Sam-dk3qn you know what I I typed it in online and it said the same thing that wants to flesh hit the heat or something it kills the AIDS and any type of disease so maybe now
HIV can only be contracted by direct blood to blood contact or sexual fluids. It cannot survive more than a second in the atmosphere
Crazy
Just glad Christopher Scarver did him in prison. He sent him all the way to hell were such pervs belong.
I wonder if he only admitted to those that he had saved ID’s… and maybe a few more in his early years, but it seems like there may be many more idk I just don’t believe him. He knows how to lie…
Yea they do but a lot of people have shitty childhoods. It’s what you do after it that matters. Not everyone becomes a killer.
Agalmatophilia sexual attraction to dolls statues or mannequins
Bath houses. Such a thing of the past. Even my college boyfriend (I'm a woman) went to one to use the hot tub for a romantic date. Just to be clear no funny business went on. Just a drink of 🍾 bubbly. The place really kinda turned us off. Must have been the energy as we're both empathetic.
Why the need to add that you’re a woman? Don’t want to come across as homosexual 🤔
Like Roman times or something lol
This dude needs to take a drink of water.
I keel feel like I’ve something in my throat and thirsty when I listen to this dr
Why In Court Don't He Wear Eye Glasses 🤓???
He didn't want to look at the Victim's Family Members I heard coz he was literally blind without Glasses so that's why he didn't put them on
Cause his cowardly @ss didn't want to see the victims families
@@8luvbug no need to swear
Foi um monstro , ele deve tá sentado no colo do capeta
Disgusting
I wonder what Freud would say about the Dr. fondling his pens most every time he mentions sexual acts!
Un caso muy complejo
Era un bombón ❤️❤️❤️
Jeff was totally insane. Never judge him by his dimeana.
Demeanor*
The conclusion of the jury was that he was NOT insane.
@@brianjmortensen Yes, the jury's conclusion agreed he knew what he was doing at the time. My opinion in a medical sence is that he was insane.
@@jasons8495 You can't spell "sense."
Tell us more about your highly regarded medical opinion, Dr. Ding-a-ling.
@@megatherion2695 diagnosis is you have a cold heart and mindless. That's my 2 cents worth. Does that make sense!
Does anybody else find it hard to listen to this person's testimony - because he breaths wierd and makes horrible gross noises into the mic, obviously without knowing it, and it puts ppl of listening to what he's saying ?
Omg I’m losing my mind over it 😂
I think if I remember correctly The doctor had a horrible cold but obviously had to take the stand anyways
He was very sick with a cold but would not let it stop him from testifying
He was probably uncomfortable explaining all the weird things that he did.
1:07:58 1:09:07 1:10:31
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I can't handle the lip smacking and snorting testimonial.
The fact he gave ppl sandwiches but never seen him food shop lets not forget the smell.. you can never put anything past a human!!!
I had ask question Did anybody see him shopping for food?
@@dontneednomanstoptelllingm8481 unless the neighbors were stalking him then no.
He had normal meat in his freezer as stated by the manager who checked but I think he ate mc Donald’s and junk food.
Th guy that lived across the hall from him says his ex wife lied about being given a sandwich.
I wonder if Jeff was allowed to be openly gay and have a partner if things would have been different
Was Jeffrey Dahmer Gay or Bisexual?
Gay I
Think
I am watching after the NETFLIX special. A very evil and wicked man who manipulated people to fulfill his darkest desires.
Hipocrisy. Dahmer wasn't cruel, he was very sick. Needed help because too insane and this was so obviously but nobody stopped him. He could be stopped. His family was insane too. All the enviroment around Dahmer's was bad. Do you all think victim's families were ok? Is ok to put their kids out of the door just because they were gay? It's cruel too! Police and most people didn't care. Even Dahmer was a victm of this cruel sistem. That's too bad.
Wonder if you would be saying that if Dahmer killed a relative of yours? Probably not. And who said the victims families put them out? Dahmer's upbringing wasn't even that bad he more advantages than most .
Jeffrey was cruel. There is no excuse for what he did. None. Zero.
He wasn’t sick. He was possessed. Point blank.
The recent Netflix series has brought me here ........... He was certainly 1 sik puppy 😬👉 glad he never applied for Come dine with me 💯👍
he was so hot🥵❤❤❤💔😋
Omg....this guys lip smacking and throat clearing is so annoying! Hard to listen to the whole thing.
He was sick with the flu…that was determined in Part 1
No mentioning of his involvement with occult practices in his residence.
Not many places mention that or himchanting during the murders or his alter or the fact he acted kinda possessed during parts of his rampage's. .
More of a fantasy he had than an actual occult practice.
Only Tracy Edwards spoke about it during his testimony
Yes. What if this was his sacrifices?(killing people as offering to the “devil”. Creepy.
Exactly. The law never looks at occult practices. Which is why JD did what he did - he was possessed. The law just dismisses it as nothing. Crazy 👹