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- LIVE COURT CAM: MA v. #KarenRead - DAY 17 - The Commonwealth's case continues in the murder trial of Karen Read. Read is accused of murdering her boyfriend, Boston Police Officer John O’Keefe, whose body was found in the snow outside of another Boston officer’s home in Canton, Massachusetts.
Prosecutors allege Read hit O’Keefe with her car and left him to die in the snow. But Read’s defense team says she never hurt O’Keefe and that she is being framed by the true killers, who may have been inside the house where his body was found.
00:00:00 MA v Karen Read Day 17
00:15:12 ON THE RECORD - MA v. Karen Read
00:19:46 Commonwealth Witness #43) BRIAN HIGGINS, Special Agent ARF, friends with Brian & Kevin Albert
01:41:51 Morning Break
02:22:54 EVIDENCE: Text Communications Between Higgins and Read on That Night
03:29:57 CROSS BY ALAN JACKSON
04:13:06 LUNCH BREAK
05:01:45 Cross-examination of Brian Higgins Continues
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00:00:00 MA v Karen Read Day 17
00:15:12 ON THE RECORD - MA v. Karen Read
00:19:46 Commonwealth Witness #43) BRIAN HIGGINS, Special Agent ARF, friends with Brian & Kevin Albert
01:41:51 Morning Break
02:22:54 EVIDENCE: Text Communications Between Higgins and Read on That Night
03:29:57 CROSS BY ALAN JACKSON
04:13:06 LUNCH BREAK
05:01:45 Cross-examination of Brian Higgins Continues
#CourtTV Catch up on all the facts of the case against #KarenRead, Killer Or Cover-Up #MurderTrial. ⚖👇
MORE HERE: www.courttv.com/tag/karen-read/?
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This guy was a fantastic witness. Very credible.
@@ezsmum3064 You are joking?
@@ezsmum3064I agree! Jackson tried to manipulate him but he stayed calm and concise. I don't know how, but he did! I would struggle so much on the stand with how he speaks to witnesses!
Aside from memory and alcohol consumption problems, there's a very serious butt-dialing problem in Boston.
😅😅😅😂
Just your common Garden variety lies😅
Lmao
@@jewlz1960 😅
@@Peter-km7hb 😅
Did anyone else feel like they were in grade school with all those text messages back and forth? "What do you want? Well what do you want? I asked you first" ugh
'do u like me?' 'yes or no?' 'wink wink' 'tee-hee' 'see u at recess!'
me and my buddy were just saying this... oof how embarrassing, this guy's got all that out in public now that he was sliding on his buddy's girl. Smh
She was misleading that guy that's how I'm reading it
No! That conversation was normal and the guy Brian was onto her triangulation scheme trying to set him up in her sick games of jealousy to make her bf jealous so he would pay more attention to her! She is Jodi arias 2. He was mature about it and standoffish bad! All guys are flirty like that with ladies! None ever grow up really on that mating stuff! I see 70 year olds doing it!
@@eloyow2193
Exactly! Bingo! Triangulation game scheme to set him up maybe to take fall for a murder she was plotting already! Or to make her BF jealous as she thought he was cheating when he wasn’t! It was her sick game! So glad he was onto her weirdo act!!!! So glad she could not set him up for a sex act to lure him into something to ruin his job or pin a murder on him! That’s what I highly suspect here! If she gets on stand prosecutor needs to hammer her on this!!!!! Bigtime! She is the conspirator and not any of those good people on the stand!
I feel so sorry for the O'Keefe family. It seems throughout all of this everyone has forgotten the loss they have suffered.
Right. And maybe if someone gave a crap about the victim, they'd be considering a motive. Its clear they're all playing him. And he's dead. Higgins is getting love texts from karen. I think karen is kind a crap person and handful to date, but I don't think she killed him.
Nobody forget. We are appalled by how dirty his “friends” and investigators did him.
@SF-zp5px They sure did and I would think that his friends would be appalled that her friends are protesting and he is at the curb.
Local trial. The fan club cheer Karen and they harass his family and call them names. Thanks to Turtledick.
@@d.friessoundandvideo2943 I think she killed him.
Aside from all the other shady stuff, the butt dials alone is a huge indication they're all lying. No group of family and friends has that many butt dials, let alone in such a short period of time.
Ummm ok. It’s an incredibly common phenomena. I get butt dials regularly. And it’s very common for it to happen from the same person, back to back calls. And it’s going to be within your circle of close contacts, b/c a butt dial usually always goes to one of the people you most recently texted/at the top of your text threads. But yes, let’s make a mountain out of a molehill bc everything this group of people do must be intentional & evil, unlike the patron saint Karen Read. 🙄
@@brandybiscoff9685 Let me guess. You also believed O.J. was innocent.
@@brandybiscoff9685all of these people are claiming butt dials around the same time. I never said she was a saint.
That’s them looking for his phone not an “incredibly common phenomena” LOL!
@@brandybiscoff9685 🤣🤣🤣 seven in a row that never go to voicemail, by numerous people in the same house, all at about the same time? That would be a phenomena alright. 🤣 Just like the “hos long to die in the cold” search and the convenient scrubbing of all their phones.
Boy those text messages where Karen Reed is saying "you're hot" to the witness is hilarious.... wait till he shows up at the office on Monday, LOL
? What'll happen at the office?
What'll happen at the office? Is it fair to say she was the town bike everyone gets a ride….
What's funny is her thinking he was HOT 🔥 Hahaha!!!
All his friends will now worry and wonder if he might be texting their girlfriends or wives behind their backs since he was a friend of John's.
@@Mooshkie50able the only one that needs to be worried about their girlfriend is the desk sergeant for that night, because he can't go anywhere, he's parked...
Court TV has the best audio of everyone in the courtroom no one else
A cop doesn’t throw away a phone unless he has something to hide.
Wrong! Individuals who like to change phones do that all the time! Not because he’s a cop, he won’t throw his phone bwahaha
texting. like a 15yr old boy
😂😂😂😂😂- so when cops upgrade they MUST keep all their phones forever or their not cops. 😂😂😂
Hearing the flirtatious banter in THAT accent....I m dying! 😆😅😄😂
I can’t handle this accent 😂
Accent is beautiful- great how each state has a distinctive flavor
@@rendog896don’t watch then.
@@jamiemackenzie722 I’ll watch what I want troll! Good day to you
Frankly,there is no funny accent,rather,it is interesting.There are some hard to decipher like the Appalachian.But I get the drift.
The Butt Dial Club= All the witnesses this week.. Stay tuned
They need to test their pants fabric to see if it's humanly possible to butt dial through a pocket
@LegendLength according to Brian Albert his butt was in bed and phone was on night stand lol I want to see that!
This DA's voice modulation is too weak for his job.
SPEAK the F UP !
Oh I agree! And the *sigh* before everything he says screams "I can't be bothered to say this, but..... " 🙈
Get a hearing aid.
Rather listen to him than combative defense lawyer
@@valiakloeppel7252 Rudeness is completely unnecessary.
Well they all were drinking and driving I agree totally
Gotta love the Boston accent. Brian "Albit". Yahd, Cah, Bawdy, Lore inforcement, shawk, Sahgint, keycahd. Last but not least - Sidebah, sidebah, sidebah!
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I wish i could give them kids a big hug right now. Hurts my heart to hear they seemed like a burden when they lost their parents and just needed love and stability. As a mom this pulls at my heart.
I get it she isnt a mom but i wonder if the kids could feel that vibe she was irritated with the situation of having them around.
I pray them kids have love, stability and do amazing things in life. They have three guardian angels protecting them im sure. 😞💜 Hugs, prayers, and positive vibes .
I’ve lived in Mass my entire life and didn’t know there was a butt dialing pandemic in January 2022. This is insanity. I have also learned I have very different definitions of who is hot. Maybe I don’t belong here 😂
Everyone has different ideas on who is hot- thank God. And, this guy looks similar to John.
well at least u know looks don't matter.
It shouldn't what's inside ❤matters
@@user-jw3ts8ym5q I agree, but a man that actively peruses a friends girlfriend is not the epitome of hot to me.
@sandierads4223 l agree. That's a lack of morals, big time. There seems to be a lot of that going around 😳
Lawyer: What if any characteristic do you wish to add to the stereotype of the "dirty cop"?
Dirty Cop: Butt dialling.
You don’t have to do anything to call a missed call back except hit one button. The missed call is highlighted in the notification and if you hit it, it will call the missed call back
Every time there's an objection and it's sustained, that makes me much more suspicious than any answer that could ever come out of their mouths. What exactly do you not want the jury to hear so bad??
I see that too!
This defense attorney is sure reaching. Not buying it.
Brian Higgins looks like the guy in high school who would come up saying “where’s my hug?” And you’re forced into a sweaty and uncomfortable hug
It's funny how so many of these people the Albert's the Macabes Higgins got rid of phone's
Whoops sorry butt commented!
People get new upgrades on phones all the time. It's been what more than 2 years since the murder and they aren't suspects. They didn't have to save or turn over a phone unless the police asked. Her lawyer said on youtube she ran over him in an interview by accident.
And also who has not flirted with someone after finding out your boyfriend has?
Only immoral would do that bwahaha
Being dead doesn’t make you a SAINT. I guarantee that John & Jen had similar banter amongst themselves… a woman can tell.
They're constantly drinking! That's disgusting
So disgusting
BS Higgins was "just trying to sus out the situation!" He loved it and was into her as much as she was into him. They both should be embarrassed. These texts are hilarious. It's like reading messages between 2 highschool children.
Why? He was single and she was not- totally different !!
Does not constitute as evidence to murder
@@valiakloeppel7252He was supposedly John's friend. He just allowed the wrong head to do his thinking.
@valiakloeppel7252 he claims John was a friend. Nevermind it's just tacky and shows bad character to pursue someone else's partner. He could've shut it down asap. If he really wanted to be with her, he could've told her to contact him after she leaves John. But, if John really was a friend, Higgins should know Karen is completely off limits.
@@ogcatladySHE got his phone # - texted him- initited a relationship and its his fault? 😂
The COMMUNICATION TECHNOLOGY EXPERTS will decide the case. Was the search at 2 am and what about the calls? And how did the Canton PD CCTV for the time her car was brought in get "lost"?
Why did Albert and Higgins clear their phones even though they were served with a court order telling them to preserve them? BRING ON THE EXPERTS.
Exactly!
Couldn’t agree more! It’s very hard to argue Clear facts.
What is with people in Massachusetts butt dialing??
Butt dialing not once, not twice but 7 times and somehow hanging up before it goes to voicemail. Too many butt dials, deleted calls in this little group.
She was not butt dialing from what I got out of that testimony. She was calling Johns phone to find the phone in the house after the fight is what makes more sense. No one butt dials someone 6 times in a row.
She was drunk and accidentally hit him . Just own up to it ! Leave these grieving people alone
People in Canton Massachusetts haven't been schooled on The Art of Lying😅😊😂
I live here and my butt never does this. This special family must have extra butt power.
things the witnesses have in common - selective memory, butt dials, not seeing a body on the lawn of the house they were at
Defense asks questions I'd want answered if I were on the jury. Too many "sustained." That's weird.
YUP This judge seems bias and never seems to let the defense get their questions answered!
@@Mooshkie50able like others say it's 'biased.' [but i can barely spell so- ]
Agreed. How can the previous testimony of a witness, under oath, be objectionable?
Aunt Bev is friends with some family
She should have never been judge for this case knowing them personally
the judge appears to be a bit biased.
The defense especially Jackson is ridiculous, bullying and so far reaching 😮😮why is the judge allowing this of witnesses???
at least someone cares about the truth. Auntie Bev is not interested....
@@sandrabecht613 Bullying and reaching is "caring about the truth"?
Higgins seems like someone who becomes unhinged when drinking. After today I can imagine him having his head in one hand and a double whiskey in the other.
Actually it’s Karen who sees unhinged when drinking!
@@laurareidy9351
When did that happen?
When she flipped out at Laura’s sister upon meeting her!
@@laurareidy9351you should probably lay off that box wine😮
@@Peter-km7hb Hey, What’s wrong with box wine 🙄
I think she hit him by accident, didn't realize it was him and didn't think about the "thump" until he didn't come home. That's when she knew where he was.
Processing over time than panic and cover up.act
The defense made it look like they were blaming that young kid then the owner of the house and his dog and now they're making it seem like it's this guy... they're blaming literally everyone. Would love to see how easily Karen's defense would blame Karen if they were on procecutions side.
Did she then get out of the car and bite his arm several times. Where are his lower body injuries consistent with a low speed impact hit?
Protocol is handing the phone over without removing any thing on phone ! Big red flag 🚩
If the genders were reversed, people would be saying “oh he just had a weak moment being in a relationship where he feels unappreciated and unloved.. It’s not that deep. None of this means he killed her.” But when a woman does it, it’s the end of the world and she’s a horrible person, full stop.
I hear a woman who loves John, but feels frustrated with their relationship and taking care of his kids, which she didn’t want in the first place. And she just wants to feel wanted. Is it right? No, but like Higgins said, it is what it is.
She shouldn’t have gotten involved with him when she knew he had the kids. Just my opinion.
@@SimplySuspiciousShawna doesn't make her a murderer
@@SimplySuspiciousShawnaIt doesn’t make her a murderer and it just gives another person at that house motive
You break up before dating someone new. Its morally wrong and dangerous to do what Karen did.
@@HappyMe-sr7vr
Like who?
If Brian Higgins isn’t worried, he sure should be!
Brian thank God you never hooked up with Karen talk about dodging a bullet
Karen aka WeedWacker
Rattle Snake
Karen kisser + babysitter with benefits.
She is the one that dodged the bullet with that douche bag!!!
Wrong than God Karen never went to his bed to see what his ex-girlfriend said.
HUH???
Everything's fine until defense asks questions....then ... I don't know/ I don't recall/ maybe/ .....and best of all Karen did the hit and run but NOBODY EVER saw a body.....?????WTF 🤔
There is a study that people watching a video completely failed to notice a person in a gorilla suit walking in the video, because they were focusing on something else. Just because something is in our field of vision doesn’t mean we’d notice it. And I honestly disagree with Jackson on the idea that Higgins is trained to spot stuff that is out of the ordinary, but maybe biased because my opinion of police is pretty low after several years of true crime obsessions where over and over again, they overlook the obvious or ignore danger signs or just can’t be bothered to do their jobs.
The video of the car at the Sally port at 536 is missing and that isn't sketchy to you guys???? Then the tail light was found later?
@@kennywoo9012 The defense argued it but it’s not actually in evidence. So I dunno. If it is missing, yeah, that’s sketchy. But we’ve also seen the taillight was broken before the vehicle was impounded.
I’m not saying there isn’t doubt. But some of the things the defense is claiming are just inconsistent with how things like perception and memory work.
@@kennywoo9012 All forensic DNA evidence is now thrown out because some crooked cop stole the video to cover their corrupt asses.
Makes me wonder what goes on with people like this in all of our towns
SAME
Oh....so now I'm understanding about the snowplow 🤯
this judge is with her 'sustained' when its important questions is frustrating
He had a long day after the services, then went to 2 restaurant/bars, 34 Fairview Rd., and … then to Canton PD. That’s a long day! What a douche bag!!!
I side with the prosecution. I think the defendant initiating something with Brian while in a relationship shows me who she is, and I know the women that love the uniform no matter who is wearing it. I think Brian is being honest but embarrassed about being gullible to her as a smart cop it makes him look vulnerable. I think he held up very well, and the defense is acting incredibly desperate. If I were a juror I would be getting more than tired of my time wasted with repeated corrections from the judge on the defense. I think it's the only defense they could come up with is to attack the police like do many do and get by with it.
Literally their police work was so sloppy and do you really believe 8+ butt dials in one night is normal?? If the mcalberts are innocent why are they being so evasive and difficult? Also this trial isn’t about Karen’s character, it’s about if she intentionally killed John, which so far they have not proved that she did…at all
@@danielleluby3296 it's also not about the alberts' &/or mccabes' innocence or guilt either.
@@danielleluby3296 Finally an intelligent analysis of this case.
Agree but they have been from the dog to Collin then Jen and now Brian Higgins does that not tell you defense is clutching at straws sick conspiracy theories
@@cookieramlall9178I think they are trying to figure out what happened to JO. Please tell me how not one of the many people who left that house didn’t see a body on the front lawn - with headlights from multiple vehicles shining directed to that area?
She told Brian Higgins that John spoiled the kids but in an interview she did, she said he would be mad that she was spoiling them. So which time was she lying?
Yeah, I caught that, too. It made it very much seem like she will tell whatever version of events she thinks will get her what she wants.
both can be true at the same time. she could perceive john as the one spoiling the kids even though john has told her that she spoils them
@@r.g6170 Possible I suppose. Not the vibe I’m getting, but of course we only see some of the truth.
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His testimony left me with many, many doubts.
They didn't like her... because of her. They don't like her because she ran over JOK
cmon b honest. ur mind was solidly made up a year ago. 😉
@@BoxerClovershut up already
Check out twisted tradidgies they give you all the evidence in advance was such a delight to see just how desperate her team is getting
@@Truecrimecafe 😂 u 1st!
Jackson not bullying Higgins the way he did with Jen.
The court should never have let him talk to her like that.
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Does anyone here think Karen Reed is attractive. I don’t see it🤷♀️
Too psychotic
Not at all! Stringy hair, pursed lips, and a high level of arrogance make her the complete opposite of attractive!
No she’s really not. She looks like a bar maid to me. But she thinks she pretty. That’s obvious.
Alan Jackson acts like a inspector gadget
see when he pulled that wall climber outta his shoe?! that was EPIC! 😉
his crosses are epic! are you worried
she willl be acquitted?
I am because she hit him with her car . Drunk
I’d be lying if I said I don’t look at Karen a bit differently after today.. those text really painted a different picture m
I was shocked at the text messages. Obviously she and John were not getting along. She spoke to Higgins about owning a house so I think she should have parted ways with John. I feel sad that most likely she would have liked to have had her own children, but impossible due to her two diseases. . I really don't think she was responsible for his death. John's injuries were too severe to have been from a car. This was also pointed out in an FBI report. It was probably a drunken fight in the Albert house that went wrong. Also too much alcohol consumed by all of them. She should never have been accused. It's now just one big cover up of who did it.
The Cops were hiding something, getting rid of all those phones.
@@bettymermaid8346she said to Higgins- youre like me- i never wanted kids- jen has ms too and has kids
None of those texts make her a murderer and it just gives another person at that house motive. Too bad they never investigated anyone except for Karen. A group of people don’t go through they much effort to hide what they’re doing if they’re innocent, and the prosecution wouldn’t have to rely on character assa$$ination instead of real evidence to try to prove she did it
@@bettymermaid8346 She's loose, she's a cheater, she's impulsive and wanted to do her BF's buddy, she's hot and most guys her age would tap her in a heartbeat, she's a drunk, she's a bitxh and prolly a mean nasty person to most people at any given time. I think she is capable of doing what she's charged with during a drunken stupor or in a fit of rage, and maybe even a Black Widow type. But with the butt-dialing phone upgrading message deleting drunken driving cast of lying witnesses it's becoming clearer that they are the guilty ones.
What is that device the court reporter keeps holding up to her mouth? Looks like a to go coffee cup lol
She’s repeating what they are saying and it’s recording it for the court record
it's a cup that blocks the sound of her voice as she repeats what's being said.
Thank you that's been driving me nuts!!!!@@danielleluby3296
@@BoxerCloverthanks l was going nuts trying to figure that out!!
It's a voice to written word translator. Notice she hasn't had to type shorthand for one word of the entire trial.
When the ATF Agent stated under oath that, “I ALWAYS tells the truth” why was he not challenged? He opened the door. He lies for a living. In fact, he’s had training on how to lie. He’s lied to about every suspect he ever interrogated. So how does that just slide past? Could have been a Fuhrman moment.
I think they all drink too much, honestly
So much drinking b/t the officers, then driving!!!!
Makes me glad I don’t usually go anywhere, especially after dark and around cops!
Anyone that thinks Karen Read is not toxic and manipulative after todays hearing then you really are wearing rose rinted glasses
Let me guess your last name😅😊😂
@@Peter-km7hb probably read's sister.
The Read fan girl club will just double down.
She obviously likes cops. Perhaps they're k987ky with handcuffs.
Saint Karen is not Saint at all.
I know the defence has a job to do but so far as I see they have proven nice families socialise together and drive cars and park them in places and enjoy their family and friends
Soooo, one night karen ignores you (guilty conscience?) And, the next shes hitting on you. Shes dangerous
B be crazy !
She strikes me as a bar fly type
I think many ppl here are forgetting that Read admitted to multiple ppl that she hit him with her car.
She was admitting it till they came back and added the murder charge. That’s when she started inventing the cover up theory and brought out Alan Jackson.
Remind the cult of Karen Reed
I think you’re forgetting that the people who said that originally didn’t say that. & they all had ties to the Alberts’ or law enforcement
Karen Reeds smiles make me so sad for John’s family sitting right there.
Bet you’re going to be even sadder when she’s acquitted.
They should want to know for sure who killed John.
This “investigation” makes me sad for his family
@@notsorryyouretriggered😂
I’ve seen them smile at one another too. She’s not allowed to cry in the courtroom.
This judge is ridiculous! She needs to be off this case.
Why? She's fair imho
The judge is fine. STFU!
Please go to law school and learn the rules of evidence.
WE need Vinnie Politan's commentary on this testimony!
Vinnie is annoying and get paid to talk about the same case three times a day. BS and he yells like he's coachin Little League. Jersey boy yuk.
Went to sleep glad for reply 🎉😅thanks
This is why you don’t date cops
because- ?
Absolutely! My ex husband is a cop in SFPD. Corrupt as heck. He tried to get my friends arrested, he brought home stolen goods, did awful things to me. I reported all of it for an Internal investigation, and it ALL fell on deaf ears. 🙄
FACTS
I've been married to a cop for 21 years. It's not the job it's the scum they let wear uniforms. Just like any where else you work. I was a 911 police fire and ems dispatcher for 16 years and the worst people to me was the press. I was always amazed how they twisted a store from a simple conversation.
Read's eyes and head follow Higgins out of the courtroom as he leaves
Well, why not? She thinks he's hot.
😂
Well, there you go…so much for “she loved him! she wouldn’t kill him.” She seems like a narcissistic user to me.
lol, plenty of couples have open relationships, or perhaps JO and her had discussed it at length and were both ready to move on, you will just never know unfortunately. Her flirting with someone doesnt mean anything, but I find it hard to believe he was just trying to see what she was up to, he was stringing her on, she was pretty direct in the messages and he was leading her on for a while. If you arent interested you say so from the get go, "yeah look I like you and you are attractive but Im not looking for anything, I think its best we stay friends" that would be a normal response.
@@user-oj4lx3sy5g she reminds me of girls I have known who tell everyone around them that it is an open relationship but the partner knows nothing about it! Typical for cheaters. Looks to me like all the other people who knew John , Loved him more than she did. She's having tons of fun getting all this attention and support. Looks nothing like a grieving widow to me. Just trying to draw in the next source for her ego. Sorry, I've seen it too many times.
@@praisingirlSome of you really just make up your own stories in your head and run with it, don’t you? None of what you said was fact, just your personal feelings. Try to stick to what we know instead of overlaying your own personal life story over another person’s relationship.
@@user-oj4lx3sy5g
Flirting is not appropriate for Karen because she was still in a relationship with John. As far as having open relationships is disgusting, where is the love and commitment
@@karendueck2895 those are value judgements. Its not proof of anything without knowing all the circumstance.
Karen woukd be so annoying to me if i was her attorney trying to concentrate and constantly being interrupted
@Gle I'm sure she's happy about that too!😂
Thank Goodness she is out of the lives of those kids.
This poor guy seems nice . I hope he meets a nice girl . AKA not Karen Read
Yeah nice trying to hook up with your friend's girlfriend behind his back...
@@helsbels991KAREN TEXTED HIM FIRST- Hello 😂
@@helsbels991True but I think the majority of men would do the same thing. She's attractive and he thinks he's going to get some from her.
@@valiakloeppel7252 So what, he could have told her to get lost.
@@helsbels991 He did say to leave- relationship was toxic and she refused
Oops using an FBI resource kiosk for an investigation you weren’t involved with, to help extract phone messages. Uh-oh
extracting messages 2 give 2 police & aid in an investigation. not guilty. bet he'll think twice tho.
How many phones did he wipe, curious he was right on that?
So why did he get rid of his phone hmmmmm
that is his right to have an attorney ... for anyone!
I really don't know who or what to believe anymore...the poor guy, we may never know the truth of what happened to him
He can’t remember anything but he remembers the design of the glass! 😵💫
Attention to detail- they are trained. That glass obviously was different enough for him to remember
But no other details. Continue to convince yourself!!!
My husband retired as a head detective. I do know about detail. He has very selective memory.
He love the haha haha! Is he really ATF? Gotta love Massachusetts
Karen Read seems to be the ruin of everyone she touches.
She was kissing John’s friends and complaining about the kids.
That’s what I was thinking!
@@Ma-Callupe35His kids definitely knew how she felt- how she felt they were a burdén
@@valiakloeppel7252 I’m sure , deep down, John knew too!
She is a spoiled narcissist. Those lawyers created all this drama in hopes of covering up what she was guilty of doing.
Too long cross examination...jury doesn't like that.
Lol how do you know
@@christinab3019 because my brother is a lawyer...in cross you only ask the most important questions and you move on.
Seems like they’re ALL Important questions, to me..
Karen is guilty.
I don't like this judge. Something is off with her.
All I got out of this is one gal that hit a man - knew she hit a guy - was mad enough to not even check on him to make sure he was ok and drove off - a gal that likes to string guys along she's a
" badge groupie "
Texts were so revealing. I really think she was angry w/John that night bc
#1. Jealousy (on the drive over she heard they were going near Bella’s mom’s house which prob set her drunk & psychotic self off) &
#2. Kids (if she was fighting w/John & leaving him there, whether that was her choice or his, she would once again be left “alone” at the house with his kids…) which she clearly despised per her callous texts.
She was obviously extremely pissed at John for NYE a few weeks before all this, and clearly seems to have been trying to hurt him (cheat on him with his friend.)
You have to truly believe in a long series of unfortunate events to believe this case is proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
Thank you!! I didn't know how to put in words the part about Bella's mom being a reason for that night but you said it all so perfectly! Anyone who thinks the whole town can conspire and keep there stories straight is delusional!
@brandybiscoff9685 Karen is NOT the victim here. I believe she hit him but still unsure if it was intentional. I lean toward just drunken rage but if she was so miserable why not just be friends or date someone more compatible? This elaborate conspiracy crap is insane!
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Of course not just from these witnesses,after all,no one said that they saw her hit him.Up until now,mostly everything was about refuting the defence claim that some 12 or 15 (I really lost count,but mostly like the whole state of MASS)conspired to frame her.
@hannahmackay754 yes totally agree!! I can picture her shouting something at him like “ why don’t you just stay at Bella’s mom’s house tonight (or ask HER for a ride home) that’s probably what you wanted anyway!!” OR suddenly realizing she lived close to one of his friends & started accusing him of cheating on her past times he’s gone over there.
7:36:28
Jackson: i got one question left✅
Jackson: Mr Lally is already standing i haven't even started ✅
Judge: have seat Mr lally ✅
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I don't recommend a heavy dinner and taking asleep to this. Woof wild courtroom dreams. 😵💫
I think the past 3 days has definitely hurt Karen’s character and shown her true colors . I now could see her drunken self flying off the handle and flying out of there. Could be she did t know but if 2 people said she was saying did I hit him, could I have hit him before she even knew he was hurt or dead says she remembers something happened. We don’t have to believe Jen but Kerry definitely seemed honest . I truly don’t believe all of these people are involved and despite the inconsistencies not all of it is huge Information. Geez I can’t even remember where I parked leaving the food store half the time imagine being drunk and having to remember every single word and everything that happened? I couldn’t . If Karen knows she did this she is a horrible person for ruining so many lives especially children.
I think she hurt herself the most out of her mouth.Never believed the conspiracy theory to begin with,and more so after I heard her.
Thank you at least somebody else is looking at this for what it is an not some Hokey Pokey story of who done it ..I can’t see that many ppl sayin all the same thing an not one person slipping up or change their story yet ..the fact that before she found John body she already has stated that he is dead she said he was hit by a plow out of nowhere..The obvious Things That has me convinced is: HER TELLIN KERRI ROBERTS AN JEN MCCABE THE LAST TIME SHE SEEN JOHN WAS AT THE WATERFALL BAR AFTER THEY HAD A ARGUMENT SHE LEFT HIM THIER ..SHE THEN CHANGED THAT STORY TO THE ALBERTS HOME AFTER JEN CONFRONTED HER AND TOLD HER THATS NOT TRUE BECAUSE JEN SEEN HER CAR PARKED OUT FRONT OF THE ALBERTS HOME ..Second: more then 3 different ppl some that has no ties to each other all said they heard you say “I hit em I hit em “did I hit em “ could I have hit em “ You can’t convinced me that 3-5 separate PPL are making that up ….An Then I Find it weird on How She Say When She left him at the Albert’s she just pulled off an didn’t even call him until She supposedly fell asleep an out of nowhere Woke up In a panic and callin ppl screaming Thier name making crazy statements ..I don’t know about y’all but after a night of drinking a partying theirs no way I’m falling asleep AND waking up less then 3 hours later out of nowhere .I believe she went home in disbelief of what she had just done to John and when she realized that he must of been really hurt after she hit him an ran him over She start to really panic And Had To get other ppl involved To make it looked like she didn’t know what happen to John ..Karen Read Is GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY
There is a lot more to come in evidence proving her guilt
@@cookieramlall9178 not that I hope so but they have to show something. A lot people keep saying there’s more to come. Where did you find this info? I would like to watch ! Thanks
Twisted tradegaies
Karen is definitely a spider there's no doubt about it she loves bringing people into everything she does
The black Widow
So crazy how the media/society has already tried this case and most think there's a big cover up. Many social media influencers rallying outside the court for Karen. So nuts, even before the evidence has been presented. Has to be tough to find an impartial jury. I hope whatever happened comes to light and the jury does the right thing based on evidence alone. He seemed like a nice guy to take in his sister's kids. He was so proud of their achievements and seemed to want to do right by his sister.
Sad that none of his friends actually cared for him
Simple answer,money.Few people behind the seen and one in the open started the whole cult.
Jury won’t like watching Defence counsel joking around at their expense.
🐍Rattle Snake!!!🐍
see her Beady eyes stare
Does not blink! Scary🐍🐍
Just because you’re not attracted to her does not make her guilty, or a snake.
@@stephanieklar9839 I think she's a total snake, totally HOT, and most likely not guilty.
There is no way this entire group of people went to these lengths to cover up killing John. she clearly was drunk and hit him and doesnt remenber
Could it be possible that Karen dropped him off and drove away without hitting him. Could John drunkenly slipped and hit his head and ended up outside the in snowbank. Then as one or more people drunkenly got in their cars and drove away, what if one of them accidentally ran him over.
Just tossing out alternate theories.
Not saying this is what I believe happened, but it is something that could have happened…..
Possible
I don't think injuries line up with the theories of either side. They probably could have gotten Karen off without these conspiracy theories that have ruined the reputations and careers (Higgins) of everyone else involved in this case. At least she could have been plead way down initially. I don't think there is any proof of intent on her part.
Too many holes in prosecution.... sloppy.. Butt dials... Wiping phones....
I wonder after Karen beats this case who's the first to crack
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Judge sustaining objections to clear, relevant questions!!!!
Due to the way the questions were asked, not the questions themselves. Legal objections to leading questions happens in every trial and the defense in this case has asked every single question by leading, which is not allowed.
@@Indiartworks Surely you are right.... I just think sometimes a reformulation is unnecessary and time consuming.
Defense knows their going to be sustained at every turn so they get it to jury that way
@@user-jw3ts8ym5q They are sharp and u are sharp!
Geez Jackson attacks every witness so aggressive like they are a hostile witness. smdh Making no points with the jury.
Agree his overly hostile style is a turnoff.
How do you know?
Jackson has Little Man Syndrome.
@@laurieboutwell5553 Reminds me of Casey Anthony's lawyer self-righteously claiming her father sexually abused her.
Am I the only one who noticed how overly smiley Karen is getting with Jackson as the trial moves forward?
She's definitely throwing those psycho crazy b**** eyes at him a little too often.
You're 🧌 trolls
Karen might be innocent; i have reasonable doubt, but why did she say John was hit by a snowply and question if she hit him. I smell rotten 🐠🐟
Why? Because she hit him. And was drunk. And scared.
I think Brian Higgins and John O’Keefe had words about Karen. I think that must’ve come out somehow and they got into a fight. It may be the nephew Collins jumped in.
& then left him on their lawn to die??? All
Of them?? Come on think about what you’re saying
No way. It’s impossible to believe that ALL of these people are in on a conspiracy. Why kill him in the first place? And leave him right on the lawn? I knew nothing about this case before it started and it’s not logical to me that they assaulted him, put him on the front lawn still alive to possibly be found, and covered it up. And dozens of people are all in on it. Please
Nope!
Karen Reed confesses to hitting him; her rear taillight on her car was broken and pieces of the light was found on the ground. What else do you need to know. She's guilty.
So ridiculous .
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Exactly!!!! I don’t understand how anyone can think a whole town, including Ems is against her! They all heard her say she hit him!
Exactly! If the cops found mustard on Johns jacket, and a hot dog near by, you would think John was eating a hot dog!
K R is guilty l agree can also add evil cold and mean including her defense trying to derail the CW
Higgins turning redder, and redder towards the end.
Because Alan Jackson is a.... just like Barz was in the Casey Anthony trial
So Huggins says he didn't destroy cell then said he cut sim card threw phone away. Can't wait to see where he threw it😄
in the dumpster next 2 yours. 😆
Drove onto a military base, threw the phone in 1 dumpster and the sim card in a 2nd dumpster. He was under investigation and being surveilled by the feds. Next Tuesday fireworks, can't wait.
“Hos long till Karen is in jail?”😆
Hopefully 30 plus.
You’re going to be waiting a long, long time for that.
Good one!!!
@@notsorryyouretriggered these anti karen commenters cannot explain any of the inconsistencies...especially 227! karen wasnt perfect but she didnt hit him and jok was in that basement and attacked..brought out after...they were pissed at him..jealous, etc..colin is involved as well...
@@hanginthere65why were they pissed at him though?
I think she killed John... but i think it was an accident. However, somehow she has managed to convince herself she didn't do it. Just my opinion
Jackson is scrambling
I am not understanding why everyone seems to think Karen is innocent. WHY, if any of the people in the Albert house were involved, would they put Johns' body on THEIR front lawn?
Why would he sell the house, get rid of the dog and tear up the basement before he sold it
@@christinab3019is another way to answer that😂
Exactly they could’ve dumped John on his own lawn
@@christinab3019 There was no canine DNA found on Johns' shirt, so I'm not sure what the dog would have to do with anything. And after thinking about him selling the house, if someone was killed in my front yard, I would probably sell the house, too.
I don't think they would want to carry out a body put in car take to different places. Then they'd have to get rid of car to. Blood evidence
Wasn't the defense blaming that boy Colin?.... Now its the cop that she no to her... they wanna blame and in between that its that nice Jenn lady?
Well said
any1 with a pulse.
I think they are just putting it all out there for reasonable doubt. Like it could have been him or it could have been this… because of the apparent bad investigation. So it puts thought in your/jurors head .
The defense’s job is to discredit the credibility of the state’s witnesses. They have no burden of proof - they’re instilling reasonable doubt.
They're pathetic and are just looking to blame anyone other then the obvious one who admitted to doing it, Karen Read!
So taxpayers our taxpayers dollars are going to a cover-up crime! They need to go get those buddies of his, and put them on trial, because they’re the ones that beat them up, and killed him. This poor woman is dealing with her husband’s death and having to deal with going on trial for murder?! This is absolutely ridiculous! My opinion.
Agree, it was a beatdown combined with a dog attack. They were not married!
That was not her husband