X-MEN '97 Season Finale REVIEW LIVE!! | Marvel | 1x10 | THE GEEK BUDDIES
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- The first season of X-MEN '97 ended with one helluva finale! The Geek Buddies aka The Outlaw John Rocha and Michael Vogel bring you their Spoiler Review for Episode 10 of X-MEN'97 "Tolerance Is Extinction Pt 3"! The X-Men's dream is put to the test as mutant-human relations reach a tipping point.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro and Overall Thoughts on X-Men '97 Episode 10
7:55 Opening Scene Between Magneto and Professor X
11:46 Shannon Comes on the Show with His Overall Thoughts
16:17 Magneto and Professor X's Mental Duel and Storyline
24:42 Bastion's Overall Storyline in X-Men '97 Episode 10
32:55 Cyclops vs Bastion Fight And Cyclops Tries to Recruit Him
37:38 Jean Grey Unleashes the Phoenix Force
42:42 Magneto Saves Earth from Asteroid M
48:45 Cable's Storyline and His Closure with Jean and Scott
56:03 Rogue and Sunspot's Storylines and Fighting Bastion
59:25 Morph and Wolverine's Storyline and Closure
1:03:15 Listing all the Cameos and Which One Connects to the MCU
1:07:43 Final Scenes with Apocalypse, Askani Clan and Apocalypse and Gambit
1:12:40 Graydon Creed's Mention and What It Might Mean for Season 2
1:16:48 Streamlabs and Superchat Questions
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This has got to be the best break down, analysis and appreciation of how great this show is, and how amazing the finale was handled. Props to you all!
Thank you!
Michael Vogel’s take on the Erik and Charles coming out scene was a very interesting take. And without Someone like Beau DeMayo, coming from the background he has, working on this show, I doubt we’d get that nuance and verisimilitude.
This was my favorite scene of the episode.. even as a heterosexual cis male.. the emotion in this scene hit me.
Love that the emotion hit you too! That’s some good writing!
Bruh same. We couldn’t have gotten that emotion without someone from Beaus background. While at moments I was like “are they about to kiss??” I’ve had similar conversations with friends and it’s so deep. You know these men really love each other despite their disagreements and at times animosity.
There was so much in the background of these episodes that I didn’t even know . Thank heavens I have people like the geek buddies to always keep me in the loop
Oh yeah, there are many subplots in the background and so many easter eggs
We loved this show! The animation was beautiful with fantastic action and character moments. Every character had their time to shine. They did such a great job! Let's hope season 2 is as good!
As someone who's Jewish, Magneto specifically using the word "pogrom" is so affecting. And I love Storm's reaction to The Phoenix. And we’re even getting Nate Grey! I guess we also know how Gambit’s coming back. Next season is going to be _wild!!!_
This show is devastatingly specific in its choice of words ❤
And I love it for it. They are leaning into Magneto's history. We see his camp tattoo, he talks about one measure leading to another which eventually lead to camps. They don't shy away from the reality of these character's past.
I also loved how Storm just giggled in delight when Phoenix showed up.
I didn't know what the word meant and I had to look it up. Not only is the show exciting and profound, it's educational.
That's one thing I love about this show. The core of what makes these characters themselves is celebrated not shunned or made shy of. It would be very easy for them to say let's not lean into Magneto's Jewishness given the war going on currently but they didn't. And for Nightcrawler they didn't have to show him performing The Lord's Prayer with Charles and Eric when it looks like they're going to die but Nightcrawler's Catholic faith is a core element to his character and that's something he'd 100% do. I love that this show isn't scared to let the characters being themselve
Gambit is coming back as a horseman of apocalypse.
I can see that. That’s interesting.
Death.
What gave that away 🤔😂
@@ForPetesake552 he does in the comics. As well has Wolverine.
That will be so cool!
Thanks! I have a lot of fear of abandonment. I can be cocky sometimes like Magneto. The moment where magneto speaks about how Rogue left him and Charles left him… everyone abandoned him even his parents. It spoke to me so much. The fear of abandonment can be a destroyer of our internal/mental world and our relationships. I LOVE that Magnetos abandonment trauma literally almost killed the earth. My God this writing…
So deep the power of "Family" friendship, dealing and making peace with trauma - which is something everyone on this planet can understand. And if the individuals life was "perfect" they probably sat next to someone in a class or at work that lived that narrative. Powerful season.
This series and finale were so good that the Avengers were little more than extras and I didn't even mind! 10/10. No movie can beat this
That scene with Jean, Scott and Cable 😢. I was crying at work. Jubilee definitely slayed in this finale. 😂
We are so happy that we finally got the cable arc. Jubilee definitely got her moments to shine
Great show, fellas. X-Men '97 was too fire. I'm really gonna miss it.
Loved how much DAREDEVIL we got in this. I feel like Marvel has been quietly building buzz around DD for the last couple of years. He's big in that soda promotion right now. Big in the X-men finale. There's clearly been a desire to get the live action show right. I also feel like they want DD to be part of a 'smaller' Spidey 4, opposed to the multiversal characters.
DD has always been my favorite Marvel character and I'll be stoked if he becomes a major anchor of the MCU going forward.
awesome video guys. I loved XMEN97 iwas like being in the 90s again.
That Charles/Eric bar scene had me thinking about the Mike Tyson "now kith" meme haha
I said it as I was watching the episodes. The end of episode 7 was the first time I was ever like "Sorry Charles Erik's way seems like the only way." But then once Charles was back to reiterate the scenario and the stakes I was like "Oh right.. while Magneto's path seems like the correct and justified path it's also the easy one and even easier to slip into when you're in a state of anger or rage." And idk bout everyone else... but I know if I'm upset or angry I tend to not make the best judgements or decisions lol. So yeah while Charles really does have the pure idealism view of it... it is what we should strive towards. I think by the end of all of this Scott will be the middle ground of the two of them and be the perfect leader. I'm not sure now if they're going to do the extremist Cyclops like it looked like they were doing earlier in the season. Also my predictions of Gambit coming back as the Horseman Death in S3 is right just happening in S2 and my guess/dream that Onslaught was coming I think is still gonna happen just now instead of S2 it'll be a S3 thing.
my favorite cameo was Omega Red, not because I'm a huge fan but because when we saw him last at the end of ep 8 it looked like he was going to be a threat but to see him fighting alongside Darkstar against the Prime Sentinels let you know that this is a threat and Omega Red choose to protect
It is always fun to see Omega Red
Am I the only one that feels like not just the animation but also the vibe in the show resembles not just old school western animation but anime as well? There were a lot of moments that were very anime
Anime is ever present in US animation. No genre does action quite as well as anime. That being said it still felt solidly western and familiar.
The show gets VERY anime at times
Grewt review! Bad Batch was AWESOME Michael! And Magneto was STILL RIGHT! Based on those Magneto protocols alone, this world deserved to be left in the shadows and not restored. Charle's path was not ultimatelythe right path. Just the path that was chosen! I did love the storyline between Eric and Charles and everything else. On to season 2!
didnt even realized that i watched 43 minutes until mike said that 😆 it went really fast , what a great show , i used to lov the show as a kid but it really was more because of the drawings , costumes and some story arcs not all of them but these season was perfect and doesnt feel an exageration to say that
The bastion Form with the "wings" is from the comics from "Second Coming" 2010's X-Force #26
SPOILER
Rogue is crazy powerful and bastion Kills Nightcrawler while he is teleporting.
You three are my spirit animals
We need to get this spirit animal phrase out of our lexicon. It’s disrespectfully to indigenous cultures.
@@majorlazor5058 sorry! No offense meant!
@@jaredjudnich no problem. Someone had to inform me as well. It seems innocuous enough, so how would you know?
Disrespect aside, what non spirit animals would the three of us be?
@@jaredjudnichredact your apology
So...i watched first 3 and a half eps over past few weeks (after trying to binge all of the old x-men animated series that i really only watched in bits back in the day after the first season) then yesterday afternoon/evening binged x-men 97. So worth it!
I stopped reading the x-men comics around 2000 (though still would read some of the x title tpbs every now and then) so my x-men nostalgia is mostly from the 80s to early 90s. X-Men 97 was an amazing way of hitting the right buttons for me while adding some of the newer 2000s stuff seamlessly, streamlining confusing plotlines while honing in emotionally charged important human drama and social commentary. And the animation definitely was stellar while not blowing any budgets and deadlines.
Thanks muchachos for your amazing insights and breakdowns (need to catch up with your other reviews), this was an amazing finale and revival, miles above the original series and probably might be one of the best animated series out there right now.
Great breakdown. I never watched it originally, so thank you for the detailed breakdown
My only ding against the show is Cap. He wouldn't stand by and not "ball up" as Michael said. This is the dude that would go against the government in a heartbeat when he see's them doing something profoundly dumb.
There wasn't much he could do in that specific situation though. Did you want him to kill the President and take over the country to stop the Nukes? 😂 I thought they portrayed how he would react fairly well for the scene.
I watch a lot of breakdown/review shows, yours is the best! As thorough as it is interesting and fun.
Awesome! See you guys next season!!
A "X-cellent " breakdown of the finale 😃
Magneto is still my favorite character in X-Men and this show makes it better.
Great discussion!
Ha ha Mike I was just typing the Byrds...
Archangel was on Genoshia when the wild Sentinel attacked. I was hyped because the origin of Apocalypse is one of my favorite comics.
As a normal human, knowing rogue could just walk into a base meant to hold the hulk. Knowing magneto can just emp the earth and shut the world down. I'm struggling to side with them knowing any of these terrible outcomes could happen.
Knowing what happened from the comics in Stamford CT and other crazy mutants that are out there. I'm seeing a bigger push for the super human registration act kicking in. AvX being teased. So many more storyline they could use going forward and that makes me excited.
Is there an explanation or hint of how or who sent them to the past/future? I don't see anyone asking this.
Can we finally put to rest the theory that Val Cooper is Mystique? She wouldn't have survived Genosha and Bastion would have known in the first three seconds. BUT. We are going to see her in S2. I would be shocked if she isn't, the bringing back of Graydon and the hint of mutant extremism really serve as a backdrop for her. It would be awesome to see her being resentful against Magneto accepting Xavier's dream.
With Storm, Logan and Morph together I wonder if there will be a new love triangle as Storm and Logan were married in that alternate future and Morph is in love with Logan.
I haven’t seen anyone else talking about Stryfe possibly being the one behind pulling people out of timelines and displacing them elsewhere. Maybe the young Nathan we’re seeing at the end of this episode is not Cable.
I feel like they may be adapting X-Cutioner’s Song for Season 2, so if anyone wants to bone up on that during the break I highly recommend it, it’s a great arc.
42 minute finale! 👏🏽❤️🤘🏽👍🏽🙏🏽🔥
Well actually… it was The birds Mr Vogel! 🤣☺️ you rock Michael! Much love from the Netherlands ❤️
I knowwwwwwwwwwwww
This is the best show the year ❌
Xmen 97 slaps...Bastion's Mama!
Enjoyed the finale, but I have a nitpicky question. I'm not an X-Men expert, but I thought Rouge had the ability to steal other people's powers. If so, how come she didn't use this ability when fighting Bastion?
He’s a human sentinel, not a mutant
@@redcomet0079 OK. So Rogue can only steal powers from other mutants?
sucks that it's over now such a fricking good show man
Outside of his power possibly being utilized by an outside entity, Magneto has nothing to do with the time travel. It was another Summers. Specifically Nathaniel. Aka Kang. Aka, in ancient Egypt, Rama-Tut.
Not to be that guy but Nathaniel (Kang) is not a Summers but Reed Richards dad.
@lisalewis1664 I prefer to be corrected so I don't fuck up again later. I hate it when I confuse names. So, thx.
Magneto and Charles are clearly straight characters, I didn't get any gay inuendo at all.
Not even remotely saying they are gay. Just saying that the two of them “coming out” to each other as mutants was very similar to the way that queer people have come out to each other in the past,
No one said they were gay. What we said was that their fear of being a mutant is an allegory of what it's like in this society for a majority of gay people. They hide their gayness like they were hiding being mutants until they find people who are doing the same thing and find a connection with them thru the shared experience.
OK, here's my problem: There seemed to be a scene missing between episodes 9 and 10. Because at the end of episode 9 Xavier was bound with Magneto's helmet on his head. (spoilers) How did Xavier get the helmet off his head? How did he get his bonds off? Seems very sloppy to me. And while this episode had a lot of cool stuff going on, it was the very definition of deus ex machina.
He took the helmet off.
@@majorlazor5058 But it wasn't shown. And I believe his arms were bound so how did he take it off?
@@DocCivil it also didn’t show the Xmen pooping and peeing before battle. Did they hold it in the whole time? Does the blackbird have a toilet or did they go at the X-mansion? We need to see that too.
I think that’s a fair critique. The helmet on his head was so specific and powerful in the last episode that it did feel like something we would want to see him remove.
@@michaelvogel7026 Thank you, Michael. The other problem is that the helmet still had a magnetic glow around it. Meaning Magneto was still holding it onto Charles head magnetically. This was a real Saturday matinee cliff hanger turn for ep10.
Why the fuck is BP TChaka? All these 90s shows are in continuity and TChaka was confirmed dead in F4.
TChaka was also rocking a TChalla costume. There is a clear anti TChalla agenda at Marvel.
THIS LIVE WAS SUCH A BLAST WHAT A BLAST OF A SHOW THIS WAS AS WELL IT WAS MORE PERFECT AND AMAZING AND SPECTACULAR AND SATISFYING AND PHENOMENAL ACROSS THE BOARD AS WE HAVE ALL AGREED . WOW JUST WOW @JohnRochasays
Hey Rocha, why did you block me (The_Marvelorian) in your Bill.Maher/Bill Burr Twitter Thread? You said something that was factually inaccurate and I was correcting you. You said the Israel/Palestine conflict was super complex and centuries old. Do you just enjoy being ignorant on issues you clearly know nothing about? Does the historical record offend you? Do always throw tantrums and run away like a coward from facts? Well then, if you don't agree that it's actually 75 years old and is a simple issue of settler colonialism, please let Professor Norman Finkelstein, Ilan Pappe, John Pilger, Mouin Rabbani, Max Blumenthal, Gabor Mate, Miko Peled, Lowkey, Omar Baddar, Raz Segal, Richard Medhurst and Rahnia Kalek, know that they're all wrong and YOU Mr John Rocha the proficient scholar and historian and student of Aaron Rupar, is right? I'm sure you would have no problem convincing these well read and well educated people that their undisputable understanding of Palestine is incorrect.
For the record I'm with you on Bill Maher. I don't like him either, I just thought you would be man enough to admit you're wrong about a topic you don't understand. An open-minded grown man would use that opportunity to enrich his knowledge and respond with "Thanks. I'll have a look". It's clear you have no interest. It explains your complicit silence of genocide and your undying loyality to the President and political party funding and supporting that genocide.